May 28, 2025 • 33 mins
Petros Papadakis joins the show to talk about the end of the USC-Notre Dame rivalry, going viral, and much more. How special is Tyrese Haliburton? How do we fix today's NBA?
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Speaker 6 (02:31):
Hello Dick, how are you?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I am great? You are?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I am speaking now to the world famous Petros Papadakas.
Because anytime you were picked up on awful announcing and
thrown out throughout the Twitter verse for you, usually.
Speaker 7 (02:44):
It's a football season, you know, I say something silly
in a late night football Yes, yes, and that's usually
how it happens.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
But this was more of a legitimate reason.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
This They would call this a hot take.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You were picked up for a hot take, you know,
ripping on porn to rip on poor Lincoln Riley and
calling your Alma Maters soft because they don't want to
play Notre Dame. And you know, is it really that
bad down there? Are USC fans pissed to you? Or
do they hate Lincoln Rally just as much as you do?
Speaker 6 (03:13):
I think it's the latter.
Speaker 7 (03:14):
For the most part, or there's a lot of apathy,
and there are some that support why do we have
to play Notre Dame anymore? But I doubt any of
them are deeply connected to the program. Not that I
really like to pull that card, like you're not a
real trojan, because people say that to me all the time.
But to me, one of the special things about USC football,
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one of the most special things about USC football is
the Notre Dame rivalry, which exists because USC football was
such a shining jewel of excellence on the West Coast
for such a big part of the twentieth century. We're
talking about a rivalry that has survived World wars. And
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as Brady Quinn pointed out on the radio this morning
when I was on with them, they used to take
a train you want to talk about travel. In fact,
I think it was back in the fifties. One of
the seminal moments that created the USC lore of excellence
in Los Angeles was after a victory in Notre Dame.
It might have been before the fifties. I mean probably
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was like the third I mean something way back, and
they got out of the train at Union Station in
la If you know the city and there was a
ticker tape parade down Broadway. Now the only kind of
parade you'd have down Broadway today is a meth head parade.
But one hundred years ago, you know, it was one
of the seminal moments in the history of the program,
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the entire city greeting the team coming home on the train.
The point is USC Notre Dame is very special. One
of the very special things about playing at USC is
not going to Pullman, though it's great if you did it.
It's not playing in the coliseum against UNLV or something.
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It's taking the field at Notre Dame, and more specifically,
it's taking the field at Notre Dame in the month
of October, as it's been done for one hundred years.
And that shouldn't have anything to do with conference realignment.
It should have nothing to do with the portal or
the nil or anything. In fact, to me, that was
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the coolest thing about playing at USC. If you sign
with USC, you get to play on this gigantic game
every year against the Fighting Irish, which like it or not,
is still the cradle of college football. Not to mention
the fact that they're the only team in the world
cool enough or with a big enough brand to have
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their own TV deal. I mean, how's that worked out
for the old Longhorn Network? Can I tune in and
see a twenty four hour Ricky Williams and Vince Young
sit up contest or something on there?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Now?
Speaker 6 (06:05):
What happened to that?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
You know?
Speaker 6 (06:06):
And that's the second And Texas is.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
Huge and rich, and the Longhorns are the second biggest
brand in college football and Notre Dame dwarfs them because
of Catholicism and their history. So why USC would be
afraid to play them or act like they don't want
to play them, or gesture at all from their little
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castle on the West coast toward them and go back
and forth like they might not want to play. This
rivalry is the most insulting thing to the history of
college football that I've ever I mean, yes, conference realignment,
yes seismic change, But if we don't play USC, Notre
Dame to me, I don't think I think they should
wear the jockstraps on the outside of their uniform, change
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the you know, wear the helmets backwards, change the uniforms
to the dumbass ones from any given Sunday and stop
bothering us about everything. Uh And and Lincoln Riley, who
literally would be is the engine behind this and he
literally would be fired if it wasn't for his massive
idiot buyout that Mike Bones who resigned in disgraced a
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couple of years back. Enabled So the whole thing is
just sad and USC football. Here's the other thing, Dick.
I mean, if you guys are puffed up over in
Washington about it, okay, I mean, a couple of years ago,
they were a great team and one of the most
memorable seasons. Yes, it ended tragically, but it was and
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you know, Calen de Boor left like a week later,
but it was a really special thing. If Washington wanted
to get puffed up about this or that or say something,
I'd be like, okay, whatever. But USC, like they're going
to compete for a national championship anyway, you can't beat
Maryland or Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Well, yes, that's that's that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And the status that USC has right now certainly is
what is not what had in the past.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I guess I totally agree with you.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
As a purest college football fan, I want to see
USC Notre Dame each and every year, but we do
have to realize that USC's schedule is monumentally harder now
than it was five years ago, especially in seasons where
you've got Oregon, right.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
What were they doing five years ago? Were they winning them?
Speaker 8 (08:25):
No?
Speaker 6 (08:26):
You know, were they winning in the Pac Ten?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
No?
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Not since Pete Carroll was gone. And who did Pete
Carroll schedule Arkansas? They went to Nebraska, went to Auburn
when Auburn was the number one team in the country,
went to Kansas State. I'm just talking about stuff I
remember from the Pete Carole era. When to Virginia, they
went places as Sea teams would never go in their
non conference. Forget about Notre Dame. This is just how
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they scheduled. They scheduled bravely, and it never held them
back from competing for championships. And if you're fourth of
the Big Ten anyway, you're and if you I'm sorry,
you still get into college football playoff. If you're fourth
in the Big Ten and you're still scared to play
Notre Dame. And if your schedule is too hard to
where you can't play Notre Dame anymore, then you should
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have never left for the Big Ten. And I know
why they did it. And I know why Washington didn'ts
because there was a revenue gap that was insurmountable and
the PAC ten failed, PAC twelve failed us all. But
if that's the stipulation, you don't get to play Notre
Dame anymore because we might have to go to Rutgers.
F you, f everybody like, this is stupidest thing I've
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ever heard in my life. The players get paid, Now
collect your money and play Notre Dame. This is USC football.
And if the modern era is too hard for USA
to play Notre Dame anymore, then maybe USC is a
lot more like San Jose State, cal San Diego State,
UCLA than they are like what they try to project
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themselves to be, which is a.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Blue blood Lincoln Riley. They have been closer to that.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
No, no, I mean in his last in his last uh,
what is it, thirty three games, he's like eighteen and fifteen.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Wow, I mean it's not it's not even close to
good enough.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Well, you mentioned big hype right now, Dick about USC
football is that they hired a GM who's saying things
that Lincoln Riley is too proud to say, which is
we made a mistake. We need to recruit the area
and things of that nature, and that this guy is
securing a great recruiting freshman class for twenty twenty six. Yeah,
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that's the hype. You guys have the quarterback that's gonna
throw twenty five picks. Us he isn't gonna have that.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Hey, don't be mean to demand he's my other.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
I mean, I'm just saying, let's see over up there.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Petros babadagers you mentioned, you mentioned the biot. They got
me thinking about player buyouts. Now that we have play
we're gonna have player contracts. Are we gonna have Let's say,
Petros Papa Daegus is making a million dollars a year
from Montlake Futures And Oregon comes a knocking and Orgon's
future Montlake.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Future that you guys, n I l Whatever happened to
the Taye club.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well that's different. That's tied to the school of the
athletic department. Monke Futures are supposed to be separated.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
No ties to the school athletic department at all, for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Exactly exactly So an Oregon comes knocking and says, hey,
you know Petro's we'll pay you two million dollars a
year and you want to jump to Oregon.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Are we going to.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
See what's the name? What's the name of their thing?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Are they Division Street? Is that what they are? Is
that wazoo? I always always us.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
Like the Sons of Troy or you no, no U
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know to victory that's usc.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Are we going to get to the point where you're
going to have buyouts and ni L player contracts like
we haven't coaches buyouts.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Has to be you know, like there is like there's
consequences for coaches for breaking their contract, right, there should
be consequences for players. I mean I was look, I
signed a letter of intent and played a col and
and left and was punished for a breach of contract
and had to sit out for a year. They tried
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to get me to sit out too, because it was
within the conference's right. And that kind of stuff was just,
you know, there was a big stigma involved in transferring.
If you transferred, it's like what's wrong with this guy?
Now if you don't transfer, it's like, what's wrong with
this guy? Doesn't want to make me money? So you know,
it's really it's really kind of flipped on its neck.
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But look, it's if you waive a million dollars in
front of a young person, especially any young person, forget
some of whatever the socioeconomic circumstances. Unless you're arch Manning
or something you're and he's got more NIL than anybody
you're you're likely going to get that young man and
his family's attention. And none of us can sit and
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blame that young guy. But at the same time, there
probably is got to be I mean, we've lived through
the last two or three four years of real chaos.
I mean, talk about last lack of institutional control. This
makes Pete Carroll and Caligula blush. It's we're in a
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new We're in a new It's the wild West. And
I hate saying that because it's such a cliche, but
I mean, I thought it was the wild West when
they took targeting away or made it like targeting, and
when they started changing the sport like that fifteen years ago.
But this is really really significant, and they're going to
have to there has to be some kind of binding
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agreement between the schools and the players. But the truth is,
if we're still going to play under this whole hypocrisy
that the schools or institutions of higher learning and they
are tax exempt and they don't have to pay the
players though they are the ones that collect the billions
of dollars in TV revenue and they don't pay the players.
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They're rich fans who are dorks that want to be cool,
like the Path to Victory or the Montlake Algae nos whatever.
You know what I'm saying, like, as long as that's
the system, then what you know, what, what what are
we really doing? When you have a binding agreement with
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the school that's paying you, then we can maybe have
some more structure. But I don't see as much structure
when you have Billy Bob's Grain elevator paying a kid
to play football somewhere and then they turn their back
and go work for Billy Bob's brother who owns a
rib conglomerate. Do I mean you know, it never ends.
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And they're young people that they you know, there's an
urgency to have money and they should get paid. They're
the ones generating the revenue and they're the ones at risk.
I've said this for years, but the wrong people are
paying them. So we're all twisted up like a pretzel.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Oh we are, we are.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Did did you happen to hear Old Terry Bradshaw today
say that Aaron Rodgers should just stay in California and
chew his bark?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Is that what you do in California? Do you guys?
Do you guys sit to sit around and chew bark?
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Oh? That's what I was doing most of today. You know,
I know Terry Bradshaw because of Fox. You know, I'm
working at Fox and seeing him over the years, and
he's always been wonderful and just exactly like he is
on the air off the area is very, very genuine
and completely original. And I kind of feel like, on
a much larger scale, obviously, that it's just kind of
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whatever Terry Bradshaw says about the Steelers is kind of
like what I say about USC.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Nobody cares anymore.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
I say so much. I've been criticizing him for so long.
It's been such a long, arduous battle that it doesn't
I don't think it resonates with a lot of people, right.
I mean, I said all that stuff about Notre Dame
for weeks, but I went on John Qunzano and said
it and it made news, and John Canzano heard me
say it on Fox Sports Radio, but on my show
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where it's all fart sounds and stuff, I said it too,
but it wasn't picked up. So what I'm saying is
Terry Bradshaw's like, didn't he call for Tomlin's head like
thirty times over the last you know, Like, does anybody
even listen at this point?
Speaker 6 (16:31):
I mean, don't. I don't know if it matters or
not to people.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
He might not be wrong about that. I've always been
a Tomlin fan. Oh no, my god, they haven't won
a playoff game in nine years.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
I don't think that he's wrong, just like I think
that I'm right about USC. But at the same time,
I think that a lot of people just considered that
the guy's crazy and old and he can't see the
forest for the trees?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Are you talking about Bradshaw? Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 7 (16:53):
Because Aaron Rodgers and Bradshaw all three of us the
holy Trinity of confusion.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Okay, So is Aaron Rodgers actually gon go to Pittsburgh
or's he's just gonna hang this whole thing?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
I mean, I don't think he'd spend the whole summer
keeping everybody on an elliptical without without actually playing football.
I think, if you're gonna not play football, you stop
playing football and you tell everybody you're done, and that
way you don't have to think about it anymore and
you move on.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Is that what Farv did? It seems like he's copying everything.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Far Yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Well, I mean I remember Tony Gonzalez doing this. I
mean it's hard a lot of guys that have played
for that long. And I'm not defending Aaron Rodgers. I
mean it's hard to I can't put myself in his shoes,
but a lot of guys that play for a really,
really really long time, and I remember Matt and I
talking to Antonio Gates about this, Tony Gonzalez, different people
like that. I mean, they love still playing football. They
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don't want to go to camp. And the camp part
of it makes it really hard because it's the tedium
of camp, the reinstall of plays that you've reinstalled for
eighteen years in your career, you know, all that different
stuff I think wears on people. But that being the point,
when you're the quarterback, you got to be in camp.
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I mean, I remember, didn't Tom Brady leave because he
was having the problems with Giselle was cheating on him. Yes,
and he left camp and he came back and he
was gone for a week, and hey, if you're the
slot guy, and okay, you know it's not great. But
people can wear that in the chest a lot easier
than they can the quarterback. If you're going to be
somebody's quarterback, you got to be committed to them. So
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that's what makes the Aaron Rodgers thing awkward. But yeah,
I think these older guys, if they want to play,
they string it out, string it out, string it out,
and then they make a decision. Obviously, Aaron Rodgers is
always a thousand times more complicated because he makes it
that way and he goes on TV and makes cryptic
messages and things of that sort. But beyond that, I
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think we'll see him playing out.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Why do you think Ryan Clark keeps making videos?
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Petros Well, I think that people. I think that there's
a I think that there's an audience for it. I mean,
if there's an audience for what he does. I think
there's an audience in dividing people. I think there's an
audience in acting like a jackass. There's an audience of
making on air stuff very dramatic. There's an audience for
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acting ridiculously self righteous and self important on I mean,
who's getting paid the most in sports media. It's Stephen A. Smith, right,
and he's the he's I mean a lot of I mean,
he's the most insufferable, right, He's the most riled up,
you know. So it's hard to uh, I mean, it's
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it's it's hard.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
You're saying it's planned. He's like keeping He's just trying
to He's trying to be on the edge to keep
himself in the news. So, you know, adults like us
keep talking about it.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
It feels, Yes, I'm a real adult, it feels it. Look,
it's hard to imagine anybody taking themselves that seriously, but
it feels like he does. And I think he genuinely
loves himself and loves the position he's in, and loves
taking videos of himself.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
And loves his cool.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Pen that he wears on his chest, and he's getting
paid millions of dollars a year to do it.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
I hope he.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
I don't know how long it'll last because it doesn't
seem like something that has a lot of staying power
as far as being your brand is attacking everybody about race,
but it's worked for him so far.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
It certainly has.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I'm wondering before we let you go, I'm wondering if
the whole NBA Finals is going.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
To work for the NBA. Do you think because we have.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Gotten, you know, we've gotten really good basketball over the
last three weeks, that maybe people will continue to watch
even though it's going to be Indiana and Oklahoma City.
Have we gotten past the point where market size matters
as far as ratings go, because we've gotten past the
point in the NFL we know that any market can
play any market in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
The NFL, the NFL has been the the gold standard
of not worrying about the market size, worry about the
brand and of the pro league. I don't think the
NBA is going to get there this year with this.
They're desperate for New York and they're not going to
get it. And they haven't spent the year celebrating Halliburton.
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They haven't spent the year celebrating shake Gilges Alexander maybe
as much as he should have been. Absolutely, you know,
they spent the year orchestrating trades for the Lakers and
draft picks for the Dallas Mavericks, and.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
All they's talked about all year is Joker and Lebron.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And when you talk about Joker and Lebron all the
year and you don't get Joker Lebron in the finals,
then you're going to get burned.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Probably, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
And I would say that this is the NBA Finals
that the NBA deserves. Undoubtedly, this is the brand that
they deserve, and it could be great basketball. And of
course we're sports guys, so we're going to monitor it.
But beyond that, you're probably not going to get Shall
met and Spike Lee and I mean Larry Byrd might
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show up.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
You'll get a Caitlyn Clark siding. Yeah, Kaitlyn Clark there,
you know, get a Clayton Bennett's siding.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Hayden Fries Dad, But you know, I mean, uh that
that's what it's gonna Maybe Barry Switzer, Man, Barry Switzer
shows up, but uh yeah, it's gonna be a real
middle American McAfee fast.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
So good luck to everybody involved.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Oh beautiful. Good luck to you, my friend.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
And and I'm glad you've you've reached international superstardom and theme.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Oh thanks Dick. I appreciate it. Usually it has to
be a rainy night in a San Jose game for
that to happen.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Great stuff, man, Always a pleasure to talk to you.
I won't get to talk to you for a while
because Squish he's gonna be back now.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Well, you never know what's gonna happen. I have a
great week.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Thanks buddy, We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
All right, there you go.
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Petros Papadakis back with more human breed love.
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R FM, Halliburton Reagan Carvin starring Halliburton.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
He is the first in NBA playoff history with thirty
ten fifteen mm zero no turnovers.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
That's an incredible performance. He's also got more steel.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Let's not forget that.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
I'm Gord quicker. Sean Gavin shot.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
That's it.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
The Indiana Facers are one win away from the NBA Finals.
It'll be a close out game Thursday at the Garden.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
That's our friend Kevin Harlan stan Van Gundy, Tyres Halliburton.
As they mentioned, first thirty fifth team ten triple double
with zero turnovers.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
In NBA playoff history.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
If you just throw out the turnovers for a second,
there's only two players here that even had a thirty
fifteen to ten game in the playoffs with turnovers, and
their Nikola Jokic and Oscar Robertson. I mean, we are
talking about some pretty heady company there for Hallibert.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, just watching this guy, you know, I'm gonna make
a comparison to you, all right, Okay, Magic Johnson is
the greatest point guard I've ever seen. And I'll give
you three attributes that were unique about Magic Johnson. And
I had a house in Orange County, and so I
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wasn't just watching Lakers on the Sunday CBS Game of
the Week. I was watching them on Tuesday night, you know,
a Wednesday night, you know, because I had the feed.
And so I've watched a lot of Magic Johnson on
basketball my day.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Right.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
And by the way, I wasn't a fan because because
of my sonic pass. I was a Celtic fan, but
I have had admired Magic Johnson. He was tall, he
had elite not just vision, but full court vision, a
playmaker's mentality to find assists forty feet away like full
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length court, like unbelievable full court vision, and playmaker's mentality
aggressiveness to get the assist from all over the court.
And then thirdly, he had that nasty set shot. Now
later in his career, he actually made himself into a
decent three point shooter and he was over ninety percent
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for a free throw, so he actually worked on his shooting.
But he was just kind of a set shooter. Now Halliburton,
I think he's a better athlete. But Haliburton is six seven,
so he's got that tall e fact, not quite as
tall as Magic, but the height. One of the tallest
point guards, really good point guards I've ever seen. He
has a full court vision, playmaker's aggressive mentality, define assists,
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not just you know, ten fifteen feet away from fine,
assists fifty feet away from you. And then he's got
that kind of that nasty he doesn't have a jump shout,
he has kind of a nasty set shot.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
So there's other attributes I know.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
There's other attributes that are different with magic Johnson. But
I tell you this, Halliburton, he is one entertaining player
and got some similarities a true big time.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
The length is so vital to his game.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
You know, he can just see over the top, he
can make passes over the top. That length that he
has as a six to seven point guard. I mean,
it's it's magic john Johnson ask.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
In my view, I just think it would be fascinating
to drop somebody from nineteen ninety five and just drop
them into today and just say, you know what, they
have not watched a basketball game.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
In thirty years.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
What would jump out of them as the biggest differences?
And I would just say the versatility of the players
when you have seven footers handling, shooting from three point range,
the athleticism, and like there's no positions anymore in the
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league because everybody can do everything.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
And I'm wondering you, I mean, has.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
This sport evolved more than any other sport over the
last thirty years as far as what the players can
do now versus what they could do thirty years. Coming
to I mean, how has baseball really evolved? I Mean
they're bigger, stronger, yeah, but I mean it, it's just amazing.
You have one hundred guys that can handle shoot and
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pass now when you may have had five or ten
thirty years ago, they could really do it at the
highest level.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, football linemen have gotten a lot bigger in thirty years.
I would just say this, but when I watch you know,
I've been watching both the Eastern and the West closely.
In fact, even with a DVR or you know, with
my my my TiVo button. If I see a play
that intrigues me, I'll go back and watch it in
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slow motions. I've been watching it really earnestly. If you
go back to the last, the most recent game in
the West, Yes, one to one twenty six OKC over Minnesota.
There were seventy eight three point shots in that game.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
The best series I have.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Ever seen in basketball, and historians, many historians will back
me up. Of course, it's it's subjective, but the nineteen
eighty four series against Celtics versus Lakers, it's widely regarded
as the best of the Celtics Lakers series. It went
seven games. How many how many threes do you think
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that both teams had in seven games? And I just
said there was seventy eight in the in the game alone.
The other night thirty forty two over seven games versus seventy.
So look, this is this is subjective. Every on the
on the scale. Everybody can plant themselves on the scale
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of what they think is right. But I think it's
a fair question, like goldilocks in the porche, not too hot,
not too cold. For me as a basketball fan, I
don't want to see too few three point shots. I
think the three point shot is good for the game,
but I think it was mainly instituted to give teams
the chance to come back. And I don't think that
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those who put the three point shot in the game
ever envisioned seventy eight in a playoff game. That's fair,
and so so and and so I would say two
questions I have. I think seventy eight is too many
for me as a fan. And and then the other point
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is one twenty eight to one twenty six. I'm sorry, Dick,
I pause and re round several plays in slow motion.
There was the the the the honor to protect the
rim was just not sufficient in my mind. And one
twenty eight one twenty six tells you that were so
many times I go, you gotta be kidding me, and
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I pause. Could have he come off that guy? Even
pat Riley the Showcase Lakers. They Riley would flood up
on the white board. No layups, that was a thing.
No freaking laps. You're going to the free throw line.
And after that game, one twenty eight to one twenty six,
I looked up Minnesota had one dude with force fouls,
a couple other guys with three, and everybody else with
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two or less. There was just way too much for Like,
I get the NBA gets wrapped on that uh in
the regular season, but this was a playoff game and
the score was one twenty eight to one twenty six,
and I saw not an enough honor protecting that rim.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Couple things, I'll start with three point shooting. They both
shot forty four percent from three point range. If I'm
a head coach and I can shoot forty four percent
from three point range, which is the equivalent of sixty
six percent from two point range, I'm chucking seventy plus threes.
Whether it's good for the game or not. It's good
for me to win the game. If I'm shooting forty
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four percent from three point range, that goes back to
my point. Everybody can shoot the basketball. Now, the reason
in nineteen eighty four that you saw so few threes
is because you had Byron Scott for one team that
could shoot threes, Michael's Cooper for one team that could
shoot threes, and a couple of guys from a couple
of guys from the Celtic angin Bird. Now you got
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every damn player that sets you.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
You're not addressing. So what you can two issues here?
Two issues.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
One is, if you're a coach, what gives me the
best chance to win? I agree with you. The numbers
are exactly what you just said. So if you're a
coach trying to win, jack all the threes you will, right.
That's that is issue A. Issue B is as a fan,
what what what? What makes the NBA the best? And
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by the way, I believe this is just one man's opinion.
If you take the fundamental core of sports, You've got speeding, quickness,
you've got strength, you've got endurance, you've got hand eye coordination,
body control. And then I'll add a six as an asterisk,
which is jumping for me, basketball the way the rules
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are rid, Basketball is a beautiful sport that showcases attributes
that I like, speeding quickness, hand eye coordination that takes
to shoot, and then the jumping of course, So so
I love basketball in that regard. But but I look
and I say, how many threes is best for the
entertainment value at the game?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
And we had to run too a break, and I
just want to respond to this.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I completely hear what you're saying, and there are too
many threes that are hoisted up. However, we aren't seeing
the Pacers coming from fifteen down, New York coming from
fifteen down, then the Pacers coming back from fifteen down
again in the last four or five minutes, giving us
these unbelievable decade. You know, we haven't seen these comebacks
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in decades and decades if we don't have the preponderance
of the three point shot and so many players that
can knock down at the three point shot. So it's
a given a take. Totally agree with you. The three
point shooting. There is too much of it, particularly in
the regular season. There's far more three point shootings down
by about five or six shots per game per team
in the playoffs versus what you see in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
So at least, it's trending in the right direction, but
we're not.
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Speaker 6 (02:31):
Hello Dick, how are you?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I am great? You are?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I am speaking now to the world famous Petros Papadakas.
Because anytime you were picked up on awful announcing and
thrown out throughout the Twitter verse for you, usually.
Speaker 7 (02:44):
It's a football season, you know, I say something silly
in a late night football Yes, yes, and that's usually
how it happens.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
But this was more of a legitimate reason.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
This They would call this a hot take.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You were picked up for a hot take, you know,
ripping on porn to rip on poor Lincoln Riley and
calling your Alma Maters soft because they don't want to
play Notre Dame. And you know, is it really that
bad down there? Are USC fans pissed to you? Or
do they hate Lincoln Rally just as much as you do?
Speaker 6 (03:13):
I think it's the latter.
Speaker 7 (03:14):
For the most part, or there's a lot of apathy,
and there are some that support why do we have
to play Notre Dame anymore? But I doubt any of
them are deeply connected to the program. Not that I
really like to pull that card, like you're not a
real trojan, because people say that to me all the time.
But to me, one of the special things about USC football,
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one of the most special things about USC football is
the Notre Dame rivalry, which exists because USC football was
such a shining jewel of excellence on the West Coast
for such a big part of the twentieth century. We're
talking about a rivalry that has survived World wars. And
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as Brady Quinn pointed out on the radio this morning
when I was on with them, they used to take
a train you want to talk about travel. In fact,
I think it was back in the fifties. One of
the seminal moments that created the USC lore of excellence
in Los Angeles was after a victory in Notre Dame.
It might have been before the fifties. I mean probably
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was like the third I mean something way back, and
they got out of the train at Union Station in
la If you know the city and there was a
ticker tape parade down Broadway. Now the only kind of
parade you'd have down Broadway today is a meth head parade.
But one hundred years ago, you know, it was one
of the seminal moments in the history of the program,
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the entire city greeting the team coming home on the train.
The point is USC Notre Dame is very special. One
of the very special things about playing at USC is
not going to Pullman, though it's great if you did it.
It's not playing in the coliseum against UNLV or something.
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It's taking the field at Notre Dame, and more specifically,
it's taking the field at Notre Dame in the month
of October, as it's been done for one hundred years.
And that shouldn't have anything to do with conference realignment.
It should have nothing to do with the portal or
the nil or anything. In fact, to me, that was
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the coolest thing about playing at USC. If you sign
with USC, you get to play on this gigantic game
every year against the Fighting Irish, which like it or not,
is still the cradle of college football. Not to mention
the fact that they're the only team in the world
cool enough or with a big enough brand to have
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their own TV deal. I mean, how's that worked out
for the old Longhorn Network? Can I tune in and
see a twenty four hour Ricky Williams and Vince Young
sit up contest or something on there?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Now?
Speaker 6 (06:05):
What happened to that?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
You know?
Speaker 6 (06:06):
And that's the second And Texas is.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
Huge and rich, and the Longhorns are the second biggest
brand in college football and Notre Dame dwarfs them because
of Catholicism and their history. So why USC would be
afraid to play them or act like they don't want
to play them, or gesture at all from their little
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castle on the West coast toward them and go back
and forth like they might not want to play. This
rivalry is the most insulting thing to the history of
college football that I've ever I mean, yes, conference realignment,
yes seismic change, But if we don't play USC, Notre
Dame to me, I don't think I think they should
wear the jockstraps on the outside of their uniform, change
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the you know, wear the helmets backwards, change the uniforms
to the dumbass ones from any given Sunday and stop
bothering us about everything. Uh And and Lincoln Riley, who
literally would be is the engine behind this and he
literally would be fired if it wasn't for his massive
idiot buyout that Mike Bones who resigned in disgraced a
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couple of years back. Enabled So the whole thing is
just sad and USC football. Here's the other thing, Dick.
I mean, if you guys are puffed up over in
Washington about it, okay, I mean, a couple of years ago,
they were a great team and one of the most
memorable seasons. Yes, it ended tragically, but it was and
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you know, Calen de Boor left like a week later,
but it was a really special thing. If Washington wanted
to get puffed up about this or that or say something,
I'd be like, okay, whatever. But USC, like they're going
to compete for a national championship anyway, you can't beat
Maryland or Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Well, yes, that's that's that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And the status that USC has right now certainly is
what is not what had in the past.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I guess I totally agree with you.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
As a purest college football fan, I want to see
USC Notre Dame each and every year, but we do
have to realize that USC's schedule is monumentally harder now
than it was five years ago, especially in seasons where
you've got Oregon, right.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
What were they doing five years ago? Were they winning them?
Speaker 8 (08:25):
No?
Speaker 6 (08:26):
You know, were they winning in the Pac Ten?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
No?
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Not since Pete Carroll was gone. And who did Pete
Carroll schedule Arkansas? They went to Nebraska, went to Auburn
when Auburn was the number one team in the country,
went to Kansas State. I'm just talking about stuff I
remember from the Pete Carole era. When to Virginia, they
went places as Sea teams would never go in their
non conference. Forget about Notre Dame. This is just how
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they scheduled. They scheduled bravely, and it never held them
back from competing for championships. And if you're fourth of
the Big Ten anyway, you're and if you I'm sorry,
you still get into college football playoff. If you're fourth
in the Big Ten and you're still scared to play
Notre Dame. And if your schedule is too hard to
where you can't play Notre Dame anymore, then you should
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have never left for the Big Ten. And I know
why they did it. And I know why Washington didn'ts
because there was a revenue gap that was insurmountable and
the PAC ten failed, PAC twelve failed us all. But
if that's the stipulation, you don't get to play Notre
Dame anymore because we might have to go to Rutgers.
F you, f everybody like, this is stupidest thing I've
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ever heard in my life. The players get paid, Now
collect your money and play Notre Dame. This is USC football.
And if the modern era is too hard for USA
to play Notre Dame anymore, then maybe USC is a
lot more like San Jose State, cal San Diego State,
UCLA than they are like what they try to project
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themselves to be, which is a.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Blue blood Lincoln Riley. They have been closer to that.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
No, no, I mean in his last in his last uh,
what is it, thirty three games, he's like eighteen and fifteen.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Wow, I mean it's not it's not even close to
good enough.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Well, you mentioned big hype right now, Dick about USC
football is that they hired a GM who's saying things
that Lincoln Riley is too proud to say, which is
we made a mistake. We need to recruit the area
and things of that nature, and that this guy is
securing a great recruiting freshman class for twenty twenty six. Yeah,
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that's the hype. You guys have the quarterback that's gonna
throw twenty five picks. Us he isn't gonna have that.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Hey, don't be mean to demand he's my other.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
I mean, I'm just saying, let's see over up there.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Petros babadagers you mentioned, you mentioned the biot. They got
me thinking about player buyouts. Now that we have play
we're gonna have player contracts. Are we gonna have Let's say,
Petros Papa Daegus is making a million dollars a year
from Montlake Futures And Oregon comes a knocking and Orgon's
future Montlake.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Future that you guys, n I l Whatever happened to
the Taye club.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well that's different. That's tied to the school of the
athletic department. Monke Futures are supposed to be separated.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
No ties to the school athletic department at all, for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Exactly exactly So an Oregon comes knocking and says, hey,
you know Petro's we'll pay you two million dollars a
year and you want to jump to Oregon.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Are we going to.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
See what's the name? What's the name of their thing?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Are they Division Street? Is that what they are? Is
that wazoo? I always always us.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
Like the Sons of Troy or you no, no U
c l A is the men of Westwood. I don't
know to victory that's usc.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Are we going to get to the point where you're
going to have buyouts and ni L player contracts like
we haven't coaches buyouts.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Has to be you know, like there is like there's
consequences for coaches for breaking their contract, right, there should
be consequences for players. I mean I was look, I
signed a letter of intent and played a col and
and left and was punished for a breach of contract
and had to sit out for a year. They tried
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to get me to sit out too, because it was
within the conference's right. And that kind of stuff was just,
you know, there was a big stigma involved in transferring.
If you transferred, it's like what's wrong with this guy?
Now if you don't transfer, it's like, what's wrong with
this guy? Doesn't want to make me money? So you know,
it's really it's really kind of flipped on its neck.
(12:41):
But look, it's if you waive a million dollars in
front of a young person, especially any young person, forget
some of whatever the socioeconomic circumstances. Unless you're arch Manning
or something you're and he's got more NIL than anybody
you're you're likely going to get that young man and
his family's attention. And none of us can sit and
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blame that young guy. But at the same time, there
probably is got to be I mean, we've lived through
the last two or three four years of real chaos.
I mean, talk about last lack of institutional control. This
makes Pete Carroll and Caligula blush. It's we're in a
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new We're in a new It's the wild West. And
I hate saying that because it's such a cliche, but
I mean, I thought it was the wild West when
they took targeting away or made it like targeting, and
when they started changing the sport like that fifteen years ago.
But this is really really significant, and they're going to
have to there has to be some kind of binding
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agreement between the schools and the players. But the truth is,
if we're still going to play under this whole hypocrisy
that the schools or institutions of higher learning and they
are tax exempt and they don't have to pay the
players though they are the ones that collect the billions
of dollars in TV revenue and they don't pay the players.
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They're rich fans who are dorks that want to be cool,
like the Path to Victory or the Montlake Algae nos whatever.
You know what I'm saying, like, as long as that's
the system, then what you know, what, what what are
we really doing? When you have a binding agreement with
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the school that's paying you, then we can maybe have
some more structure. But I don't see as much structure
when you have Billy Bob's Grain elevator paying a kid
to play football somewhere and then they turn their back
and go work for Billy Bob's brother who owns a
rib conglomerate. Do I mean you know, it never ends.
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And they're young people that they you know, there's an
urgency to have money and they should get paid. They're
the ones generating the revenue and they're the ones at risk.
I've said this for years, but the wrong people are
paying them. So we're all twisted up like a pretzel.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Oh we are, we are.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Did did you happen to hear Old Terry Bradshaw today
say that Aaron Rodgers should just stay in California and
chew his bark?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Is that what you do in California? Do you guys?
Do you guys sit to sit around and chew bark?
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Oh? That's what I was doing most of today. You know,
I know Terry Bradshaw because of Fox. You know, I'm
working at Fox and seeing him over the years, and
he's always been wonderful and just exactly like he is
on the air off the area is very, very genuine
and completely original. And I kind of feel like, on
a much larger scale, obviously, that it's just kind of
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whatever Terry Bradshaw says about the Steelers is kind of
like what I say about USC.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Nobody cares anymore.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
I say so much. I've been criticizing him for so long.
It's been such a long, arduous battle that it doesn't
I don't think it resonates with a lot of people, right.
I mean, I said all that stuff about Notre Dame
for weeks, but I went on John Qunzano and said
it and it made news, and John Canzano heard me
say it on Fox Sports Radio, but on my show
(16:14):
where it's all fart sounds and stuff, I said it too,
but it wasn't picked up. So what I'm saying is
Terry Bradshaw's like, didn't he call for Tomlin's head like
thirty times over the last you know, Like, does anybody
even listen at this point?
Speaker 6 (16:31):
I mean, don't. I don't know if it matters or
not to people.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
He might not be wrong about that. I've always been
a Tomlin fan. Oh no, my god, they haven't won
a playoff game in nine years.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
I don't think that he's wrong, just like I think
that I'm right about USC. But at the same time,
I think that a lot of people just considered that
the guy's crazy and old and he can't see the
forest for the trees?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Are you talking about Bradshaw? Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 7 (16:53):
Because Aaron Rodgers and Bradshaw all three of us the
holy Trinity of confusion.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Okay, So is Aaron Rodgers actually gon go to Pittsburgh
or's he's just gonna hang this whole thing?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
I mean, I don't think he'd spend the whole summer
keeping everybody on an elliptical without without actually playing football.
I think, if you're gonna not play football, you stop
playing football and you tell everybody you're done, and that
way you don't have to think about it anymore and
you move on.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Is that what Farv did? It seems like he's copying everything.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Far Yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Well, I mean I remember Tony Gonzalez doing this. I
mean it's hard a lot of guys that have played
for that long. And I'm not defending Aaron Rodgers. I
mean it's hard to I can't put myself in his shoes,
but a lot of guys that play for a really,
really really long time, and I remember Matt and I
talking to Antonio Gates about this, Tony Gonzalez, different people
like that. I mean, they love still playing football. They
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don't want to go to camp. And the camp part
of it makes it really hard because it's the tedium
of camp, the reinstall of plays that you've reinstalled for
eighteen years in your career, you know, all that different
stuff I think wears on people. But that being the point,
when you're the quarterback, you got to be in camp.
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I mean, I remember, didn't Tom Brady leave because he
was having the problems with Giselle was cheating on him. Yes,
and he left camp and he came back and he
was gone for a week, and hey, if you're the
slot guy, and okay, you know it's not great. But
people can wear that in the chest a lot easier
than they can the quarterback. If you're going to be
somebody's quarterback, you got to be committed to them. So
(18:25):
that's what makes the Aaron Rodgers thing awkward. But yeah,
I think these older guys, if they want to play,
they string it out, string it out, string it out,
and then they make a decision. Obviously, Aaron Rodgers is
always a thousand times more complicated because he makes it
that way and he goes on TV and makes cryptic
messages and things of that sort. But beyond that, I
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think we'll see him playing out.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Why do you think Ryan Clark keeps making videos?
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Petros Well, I think that people. I think that there's
a I think that there's an audience for it. I mean,
if there's an audience for what he does. I think
there's an audience in dividing people. I think there's an
audience in acting like a jackass. There's an audience of
making on air stuff very dramatic. There's an audience for
(19:11):
acting ridiculously self righteous and self important on I mean,
who's getting paid the most in sports media. It's Stephen A. Smith, right,
and he's the he's I mean a lot of I mean,
he's the most insufferable, right, He's the most riled up,
you know. So it's hard to uh, I mean, it's
(19:33):
it's it's hard.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
You're saying it's planned. He's like keeping He's just trying
to He's trying to be on the edge to keep
himself in the news. So, you know, adults like us
keep talking about it.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
It feels, Yes, I'm a real adult, it feels it. Look,
it's hard to imagine anybody taking themselves that seriously, but
it feels like he does. And I think he genuinely
loves himself and loves the position he's in, and loves
taking videos of himself.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
And loves his cool.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Pen that he wears on his chest, and he's getting
paid millions of dollars a year to do it.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
I hope he.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
I don't know how long it'll last because it doesn't
seem like something that has a lot of staying power
as far as being your brand is attacking everybody about race,
but it's worked for him so far.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
It certainly has.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I'm wondering before we let you go, I'm wondering if
the whole NBA Finals is going.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
To work for the NBA. Do you think because we have.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Gotten, you know, we've gotten really good basketball over the
last three weeks, that maybe people will continue to watch
even though it's going to be Indiana and Oklahoma City.
Have we gotten past the point where market size matters
as far as ratings go, because we've gotten past the
point in the NFL we know that any market can
play any market in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
The NFL, the NFL has been the the gold standard
of not worrying about the market size, worry about the
brand and of the pro league. I don't think the
NBA is going to get there this year with this.
They're desperate for New York and they're not going to
get it. And they haven't spent the year celebrating Halliburton.
(21:13):
They haven't spent the year celebrating shake Gilges Alexander maybe
as much as he should have been. Absolutely, you know,
they spent the year orchestrating trades for the Lakers and
draft picks for the Dallas Mavericks, and.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
All they's talked about all year is Joker and Lebron.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And when you talk about Joker and Lebron all the
year and you don't get Joker Lebron in the finals,
then you're going to get burned.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Probably, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
And I would say that this is the NBA Finals
that the NBA deserves. Undoubtedly, this is the brand that
they deserve, and it could be great basketball. And of
course we're sports guys, so we're going to monitor it.
But beyond that, you're probably not going to get Shall
met and Spike Lee and I mean Larry Byrd might
(21:55):
show up.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
You'll get a Caitlyn Clark siding. Yeah, Kaitlyn Clark there,
you know, get a Clayton Bennett's siding.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Hayden Fries Dad, But you know, I mean, uh that
that's what it's gonna Maybe Barry Switzer, Man, Barry Switzer
shows up, but uh yeah, it's gonna be a real
middle American McAfee fast.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
So good luck to everybody involved.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Oh beautiful. Good luck to you, my friend.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
And and I'm glad you've you've reached international superstardom and theme.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Oh thanks Dick. I appreciate it. Usually it has to
be a rainy night in a San Jose game for
that to happen.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Great stuff, man, Always a pleasure to talk to you.
I won't get to talk to you for a while
because Squish he's gonna be back now.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Well, you never know what's gonna happen. I have a
great week.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Thanks buddy, We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
All right, there you go.
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Speaker 1 (23:01):
On Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ.
Speaker 8 (23:04):
R FM, Halliburton Reagan Carvin starring Halliburton.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
He is the first in NBA playoff history with thirty
ten fifteen mm zero no turnovers.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
That's an incredible performance. He's also got more steel.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Let's not forget that.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
I'm Gord quicker. Sean Gavin shot.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
That's it.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
The Indiana Facers are one win away from the NBA Finals.
It'll be a close out game Thursday at the Garden.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
That's our friend Kevin Harlan stan Van Gundy, Tyres Halliburton.
As they mentioned, first thirty fifth team ten triple double
with zero turnovers.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
In NBA playoff history.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
If you just throw out the turnovers for a second,
there's only two players here that even had a thirty
fifteen to ten game in the playoffs with turnovers, and
their Nikola Jokic and Oscar Robertson. I mean, we are
talking about some pretty heady company there for Hallibert.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, just watching this guy, you know, I'm gonna make
a comparison to you, all right, Okay, Magic Johnson is
the greatest point guard I've ever seen. And I'll give
you three attributes that were unique about Magic Johnson. And
I had a house in Orange County, and so I
(24:44):
wasn't just watching Lakers on the Sunday CBS Game of
the Week. I was watching them on Tuesday night, you know,
a Wednesday night, you know, because I had the feed.
And so I've watched a lot of Magic Johnson on
basketball my day.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Right.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
And by the way, I wasn't a fan because because
of my sonic pass. I was a Celtic fan, but
I have had admired Magic Johnson. He was tall, he
had elite not just vision, but full court vision, a
playmaker's mentality to find assists forty feet away like full
(25:21):
length court, like unbelievable full court vision, and playmaker's mentality
aggressiveness to get the assist from all over the court.
And then thirdly, he had that nasty set shot. Now
later in his career, he actually made himself into a
decent three point shooter and he was over ninety percent
(25:42):
for a free throw, so he actually worked on his shooting.
But he was just kind of a set shooter. Now Halliburton,
I think he's a better athlete. But Haliburton is six seven,
so he's got that tall e fact, not quite as
tall as Magic, but the height. One of the tallest
point guards, really good point guards I've ever seen. He
has a full court vision, playmaker's aggressive mentality, define assists,
(26:07):
not just you know, ten fifteen feet away from fine,
assists fifty feet away from you. And then he's got
that kind of that nasty he doesn't have a jump shout,
he has kind of a nasty set shot.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
So there's other attributes I know.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
There's other attributes that are different with magic Johnson. But
I tell you this, Halliburton, he is one entertaining player
and got some similarities a true big time.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
The length is so vital to his game.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
You know, he can just see over the top, he
can make passes over the top. That length that he
has as a six to seven point guard. I mean,
it's it's magic john Johnson ask.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
In my view, I just think it would be fascinating
to drop somebody from nineteen ninety five and just drop
them into today and just say, you know what, they
have not watched a basketball game.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
In thirty years.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
What would jump out of them as the biggest differences?
And I would just say the versatility of the players
when you have seven footers handling, shooting from three point range,
the athleticism, and like there's no positions anymore in the
(27:19):
league because everybody can do everything.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
And I'm wondering you, I mean, has.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
This sport evolved more than any other sport over the
last thirty years as far as what the players can
do now versus what they could do thirty years. Coming
to I mean, how has baseball really evolved? I Mean
they're bigger, stronger, yeah, but I mean it, it's just amazing.
You have one hundred guys that can handle shoot and
(27:45):
pass now when you may have had five or ten
thirty years ago, they could really do it at the
highest level.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, football linemen have gotten a lot bigger in thirty years.
I would just say this, but when I watch you know,
I've been watching both the Eastern and the West closely.
In fact, even with a DVR or you know, with
my my my TiVo button. If I see a play
that intrigues me, I'll go back and watch it in
(28:12):
slow motions. I've been watching it really earnestly. If you
go back to the last, the most recent game in
the West, Yes, one to one twenty six OKC over Minnesota.
There were seventy eight three point shots in that game.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
The best series I have.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Ever seen in basketball, and historians, many historians will back
me up. Of course, it's it's subjective, but the nineteen
eighty four series against Celtics versus Lakers, it's widely regarded
as the best of the Celtics Lakers series. It went
seven games. How many how many threes do you think
(28:58):
that both teams had in seven games? And I just
said there was seventy eight in the in the game alone.
The other night thirty forty two over seven games versus seventy.
So look, this is this is subjective. Every on the
on the scale. Everybody can plant themselves on the scale
(29:20):
of what they think is right. But I think it's
a fair question, like goldilocks in the porche, not too hot,
not too cold. For me as a basketball fan, I
don't want to see too few three point shots. I
think the three point shot is good for the game,
but I think it was mainly instituted to give teams
the chance to come back. And I don't think that
(29:42):
those who put the three point shot in the game
ever envisioned seventy eight in a playoff game. That's fair,
and so so and and so I would say two
questions I have. I think seventy eight is too many
for me as a fan. And and then the other point
(30:03):
is one twenty eight to one twenty six. I'm sorry, Dick,
I pause and re round several plays in slow motion.
There was the the the the honor to protect the
rim was just not sufficient in my mind. And one
twenty eight one twenty six tells you that were so
many times I go, you gotta be kidding me, and
(30:24):
I pause. Could have he come off that guy? Even
pat Riley the Showcase Lakers. They Riley would flood up
on the white board. No layups, that was a thing.
No freaking laps. You're going to the free throw line.
And after that game, one twenty eight to one twenty six,
I looked up Minnesota had one dude with force fouls,
a couple other guys with three, and everybody else with
(30:46):
two or less. There was just way too much for Like,
I get the NBA gets wrapped on that uh in
the regular season, but this was a playoff game and
the score was one twenty eight to one twenty six,
and I saw not an enough honor protecting that rim.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Couple things, I'll start with three point shooting. They both
shot forty four percent from three point range. If I'm
a head coach and I can shoot forty four percent
from three point range, which is the equivalent of sixty
six percent from two point range, I'm chucking seventy plus threes.
Whether it's good for the game or not. It's good
for me to win the game. If I'm shooting forty
(31:24):
four percent from three point range, that goes back to
my point. Everybody can shoot the basketball. Now, the reason
in nineteen eighty four that you saw so few threes
is because you had Byron Scott for one team that
could shoot threes, Michael's Cooper for one team that could
shoot threes, and a couple of guys from a couple
of guys from the Celtic angin Bird. Now you got
(31:46):
every damn player that sets you.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
You're not addressing. So what you can two issues here?
Two issues.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
One is, if you're a coach, what gives me the
best chance to win? I agree with you. The numbers
are exactly what you just said. So if you're a
coach trying to win, jack all the threes you will, right.
That's that is issue A. Issue B is as a fan,
what what what? What makes the NBA the best? And
(32:15):
by the way, I believe this is just one man's opinion.
If you take the fundamental core of sports, You've got speeding, quickness,
you've got strength, you've got endurance, you've got hand eye coordination,
body control. And then I'll add a six as an asterisk,
which is jumping for me, basketball the way the rules
(32:36):
are rid, Basketball is a beautiful sport that showcases attributes
that I like, speeding quickness, hand eye coordination that takes
to shoot, and then the jumping of course, So so
I love basketball in that regard. But but I look
and I say, how many threes is best for the
entertainment value at the game?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
And we had to run too a break, and I
just want to respond to this.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I completely hear what you're saying, and there are too
many threes that are hoisted up. However, we aren't seeing
the Pacers coming from fifteen down, New York coming from
fifteen down, then the Pacers coming back from fifteen down
again in the last four or five minutes, giving us
these unbelievable decade. You know, we haven't seen these comebacks
(33:24):
in decades and decades if we don't have the preponderance
of the three point shot and so many players that
can knock down at the three point shot. So it's
a given a take. Totally agree with you. The three
point shooting. There is too much of it, particularly in
the regular season. There's far more three point shootings down
by about five or six shots per game per team
in the playoffs versus what you see in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
So at least, it's trending in the right direction, but
we're not.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Seeing the epic finishes if we don't have twelve different
guys on teams that can hit the threes. Textimonials coming
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