August 20, 2024 • 39 mins
Former Seahawks Head Coach Pete Carroll joins the show for the first time since being let go as Seahawks head coach. Reaction to Pete Carroll interview with Doug Baldwin. What do you think is the most likely thing that happens with the Mariners at the end of the season?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now from the Star Rentals Sports to us Jordan ninety
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Right it both and goes every Go headlines on Sofia
Eneglo Jackson Jackson anders in for Jackson, Doug Baldwin sitting
in for Dick. Pete Carroll will join us in a
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I feel sorry for you for us.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
That guy right there.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Who called me Frosty, He'll join us in a matter
of seconds here on the radio show Crack and signing
Matty Beniers to a seven year, seven point one four
million dollars per year contract. Today, Mariners back at it
against the Dodgers, looking to avoid another series loss after
a three to nothing lost last night. UB Rutgers Week five.
Rutgers linebacker Mohammad Toure on the Buckets Award watch list.
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He's out for the year with an ACL injury and
Baseball Scoreboard watching tonight. Boston and Houston coming up at
ten Minnesota, San Diego six forty tonight justin Verlander, by
the way, is going to be pitching tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
He's been out since the night of June.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Pittsburgh and Texas at five oh five, in LA and
Kansas City at five ten.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
What else we got?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
NCAA football Oklahoma State putting a QR code on the
back of the player's helmets, allowing fans to donate money
directly to players and their NIL page again. The Mariners
six forty this evening against ere excuse me, seven oh
five tonight against the LA Dodgers. Brian Will yesterday six
and a third, two runs, taking the loss. Bryce Miller
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versus Walker Buehler this evening. All right, we are efforting.
This is just perfect right now. By the way, Doug,
to get a hold of Pete Carroll here, ex head coach.
What I think is happening is he's expecting a phone
call from my cell phone and we are calling him
from the studio, right. So he just wrote me back
and said not there yet. What does that mean in
Pete Carroll Lee's when he says yet, he's not ready.
(02:01):
He's not ready yet. Okay, yeah, all right, so I
will say great, text me when you are ready to
go text when you are ready. This is called producing
on the fly, all right. Gotta be ready to be
doing multiple things here, Doug in this business. Doug Baldwins
filling in for Dick Fane. Pete Carroll will join us
in a few minutes. We're talking. Earlier today, Anders and
(02:21):
I were about some things we wanted to go over
with you, and one thing that Anders brought up is
this eighteen games schedule potentially on the horizon, seventeen games
right now in the NFL three preseason games. I gotta
be honest with you. I cannot stand preseason football. I
hate it. I am so looking forward to Saturday night
at ten o'clock being over. By the way, would you
rather play twenty games and have all of them count
(02:43):
or play three preseason games and a seventeen game regular season.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
I mean again, it's a matter of perspective, right. The
young guys need those preseason games to get reps because
they're not going to get reps typically in the regular season.
So I mean it's it's necessary for development. So I
guess the question would be, if you were to change that,
how do you get the reps for those young guys
that they need in order to develop.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Right right, well, and the veterans aren't even playing right.
It's it's become Did you play a lot in the
p I'm trying to remember how much you played in
the preseason?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
My first year played a little bit. First and second
year I played a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, and you felt like as you went on you
just didn't need it or it was too risky.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
No.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I mean as a rookie, I needed that experience to
tell me whether or not I actually play at this level, right,
you know? And I fortunately had some success and so
found a little bit of comfort. And I think a
lot of young guys need that.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well, Doug Baldwin again is with us, and for Dick today,
we're gonna have Pete on in a matter of minutes
here just waiting for his go his his green light.
Did he bust your balls about being late for meetings
and things like that when that happened.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I was seldomly late, Okay, right, I think maybe once
or twice.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Was he a stickler for the clock?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
He was, but he would do it in a very
nice way, gotcha? Yeah, Okay, that made you not want
to disappear him?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Well, Don James, as you know, the old ub coach
back in the y. I used to say, Don James,
time get here five minutes early, right, And so when
Pete says five o'clock, it's five o'clock.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
But now he's running late.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Make sure he knows that I.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Will tell him that. I will tell him when he
comes on the air.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
We talked about life after football for you and being
a dad and all that goes along with this. I
don't know how else to say this. I want to
just ask you, because I know a lot of guys
mentally and physically struggle with the transition.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
How are you doing.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
I'm doing excellent now physically.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Mentally, how are you doing?
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I struggled for a very long time, but probably in
the last I would say the last two years is
when I kind of find the balance to get back
to healthy. But it has been a process.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
There were there because I often hear about guys retiring
and saying things like, you know what, I'm going to
walk away now because I got my health right. I
can pick up my kids, I can play with my
grandkids down in the day. You know, my knees are fine,
my neck is fine. Did you tell yourself. I want
to make sure I go out on my terms so
I can make sure I'm as physically capable as possible
(05:05):
to play with my kids when they situation arise.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
One thousand percent. But not just that. You know, my
father was law enforcement officer for thirty five years, right
and so, and he he, he did a whole bunch
while he was in law enforcement, and I didn't get
to see him as much as I would have liked
to have seen him, you know, as my father. And
so I told myself that I would not I could
not play the game at the level that I wanted to,
(05:30):
and so I could not be in the game when
I had children. I wanted to dedicate that time to
them and also obviously being healthy enough to have quality
time with them. So yeah, it really mattered to me.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well, listen, I mean it's one of those things where
that team and that era of Seayawk football will be
remembered forever, there's no question about it.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
And you guys set the standard, and the guy that.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Helped you, the guy that led you through the entire process,
is joining us right now on the radio show for
the first time. And I can't think of how long
a former head coach of your Seattle Seahawks, Pete Carroll
is with us right now on the radio program Coach,
how are you, Softy?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
And Doug Baldwin, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well? What's up? Guys? Well, and there's a lot going on.
I think you're right. I don't think I've been on
the radio. I can't remember well when when it was.
This might be the first time.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
It is up.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Pablo? Miss you?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Do we have? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I'm here, we got you, got you Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Maybe you're getting teary eyed because Doug just told you
how much he misses being around you.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I mean when you hear when you hear guys say
stuff like that, when you hear from guys like Doug, Pete,
what what?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
What memories get conjured up for you? Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Man, there's so many memories. Most of it is is
having the fun, you know. Most of it's uh thinking
about just the laughs and the good times and the
kind of hugging up on each other when plays are
made and things are you know, special things like that.
Those are the moments that stay with me. And there's
bigger moments too to talk about all but with Doug
(07:07):
and h and myself. We we had a really fun
friendship and do this thing. And I loved watching him
compete his ass off. He was amazing and so all
of it, uh, you know, is very special.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
You know, Pete, we.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Were just talking about the time that I don't know
if you remember this, but I forget what was the
context around it, but I came up to you on
the bus and I just told you. I was like, hey,
I want you to you know, don't forget about the
impact that you have as a male leader and these males,
these young males lives.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Do you remember that we were on the bus?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, I do. I do remember that, Yeah, and quite clearly. Yeah,
go ahead, no, go ahead. Oh well, I'm just yeah,
it's uh, you know, I think we we realized that
there's a really good way to coach and to play together,
and that we give to each other and and be
open and uh and caring. And you know, you were
(07:59):
one for sure that that we passed it back and forth.
That's a great example of a time. You know, I
would do nothing but grave about about you, to work
with you and all that, and and uh, you weren't
the easiest guys to deal with. But uh, but I
appreciated so much where you were coming from because it
was so important to you to excel. It's important to
(08:21):
you to show who you were, you know, and make
that statement every chance you got. And that's that to me,
That's that's the guys I'm wanting to surround myself with
and trying to win football games and do great things
and you know, and take on those big challenges.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
I remember you always used to say that you wanted
the guys that you would pick to play basketball with.
You went out on the exactly the street, like who's
who's coming with you? But you know, we were also
talking about just how you impacted us, not just you know,
as players, not just as you knows, as colleagues and
on the team and and you as our coach, but
just as a human being. And you know that they're
(08:57):
the saying goes as like a player's coach. And I
don't even like that saying because it doesn't really encapsulate
like what that experience is. And I'm just curious from
your perspective, like when did that you know, solidify for you?
How did you know what? How did you how did
you formalize your approach in the game and just how
you wanted to coach, because obviously it impacted all.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, well it really goes a long ways back. And
when I first got the sense of how you can connect,
I was in a meeting at UOPI when I was
coaching a DVS there one night in the camp, probably
my first year coaching the back and uh, we you know,
we were preddy programmed. We were just slapping along and
(09:37):
it was a night meeting and been going. I said,
you know, hey, let me ask you guys before tomorrow,
what do you guys want to work on? You know,
and it tomorrow's practice, and the guys you know, started
feeding stuff. I was taking notes, putting on the board
and all that and old talk board and uh and
so we we just went for I don't know, another
half hour just talking to stuff. Everybody wanted to try
to get better at So meeting's over and I run
(10:00):
back over to the to the office on the UOP
campus and I run into Chester Cantas say hed, coach,
I said, Coach, you won't believe the meeting I just had.
I was talking to the guys and asked about what
they want to work on. They are giving me this suggestion.
That suggestion. Everybody was kind of they're all charged up,
and you know, I could feel the energy of the
guys had been you know, listened to for the first time.
(10:20):
And and before I could finish what I'm in all
my excitement about, he said, don't you ever let those
players tell you what to do in the southern draw
from Kentucky, you know. And and he tell me you're
the coach, You're you're in charge, you know, don't ever
listen to those guys. And I was just just blessed up,
you know that I thought I had something here, you know,
I thought I'd really touch base and something. And I
(10:42):
went home that night and uh, I thought about, you know,
that was real. It was a really good thing. And
I know coach, I love him and all that, but
I'm going to do all that stuff that we said
we're going to do, you know. And so it was
my first chance at kind of departing from the standard
way of thinking about being a coach, and I got
rewarded with it then and I've never been never been
(11:03):
away from that thought of always relating to the guys
and making sure that you you know, you take the
opportunity to get to know who they are and work
with them and listen to them and still coach that
hell out of them too though, and be hard on
them and demanding and high standards and expectations and all
of that. And uh, it started really early. Doug is
really the answer to that. And and I've felt all
(11:24):
along that I had a pretty good connection with guys.
But honestly, to tell you, guys, you know, when I'm
now that I'm out and from the from the Hawks
and I'm out and around the area in town and
everywhere that I've been going, I've been getting so much
love from everybody. It's been amazing. And uh, you know,
people can't wait to come up and say some pick picture,
autograph something that don't tell me about their their son
(11:44):
or their or their uncle who you know, loved the
way we did things there, and how engaged they're doing,
how much they missed me, you know, all that kind
of sappy stuff. But that's been really meaningful. And I
just I didn't, you know, I didn't have any clue
that you know, we've had that kind of connection on
the outside, and it's been really obvious. And I just
got back, did you guys know, I went to Kuwait
last week. Yeah yeah, a group of guys that have
(12:08):
been taking care of the troops over the years, for
many years that they've have a regular program where they
do a hard, hard court uh basketball tournament to the troops.
And so in Kuwait, there's three major bases there and
uh so I went over with seven other basketball coaches
and myself when Tim Floyd, the old guy used to
coach at SC ask me if I go, and we
(12:29):
just had a phenomenal time over there, but coaching hoops,
but over there running into all the soldiers and all
those guys were nuts about signing autograss and just it
was just an outpouring. So I feel pretty fricking lucky
and very fortunate, you know that we had effect, and
uh I'm thrilled about it. I can't tell you that
(12:50):
I don't like it, you know, I do, and and
I'm please, but but it just reminds me how much
I got to keep giving back and keep doing it.
So so it is it isn't stuff.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Yeah, Pete, you you hit on a number of things.
We don't have enough time to all right, Well, Softie says,
we do. Sorry, Frosty says, we do. You know, I
think one of the things that I took away that
I learned from our time together Pete, was just, you know,
how much you genuinely cared and loved the guys, but
(13:21):
at the same time you had to balance the business
of it and also the you know, the accountability. And
I think I learned in that process just that you
can't have love without the boundaries. There has to be
the boundaries. The boundaries. They're necessary for you to understand
where you're, where you are, where you stand. And I'm
(13:41):
just curious for you, like what, like, you know, you
just said the story about how the coach told you
came back with this thought and the coach like, nah,
I don't do that, but yet you persevere through that.
You you were consistent through it, Like what, yeah, yeah, but
why why were you so convicted and why are you
still convicted about that?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Because it just felt right, you know, it felt right,
And I've always gone with my feelings and trying to
be really in touch with what's what's happening, and trying
to feel other people's sense and awareness and emotions and
all of that too, you know, to try to get
to the truth in the essence of what's really going on,
instead of kind of blossing over, you know, and in
arm's length. And I don't think you can go as far.
(14:22):
You can't you can't have as much impact. You can't
be you can't be great doing it that way, in
my opinion, And so, uh, you know that it's just
been a way, and people have accepted, you know, I'm
you know, I'm up beat and having fun and all that. Well,
some some people that I worked with didn't didn't see
it as being constructed all They fired my butt for
you know, I got fired after one year that Jeff
(14:44):
could figure me out and after following Parcels in New England.
You know what was I thinking, you know, a till
of the Hunt coaching and and here I'm going to
come in there and and they just come to the
to the Super Bowl. I'm gonna get all revved up.
What a dumb idea that was. But but still that's
just the way I've been doing it. And and uh,
I'm I'm I'm excited about it, and I'm excited about
(15:05):
it now because there's there's more stuff to teach, there's
more stuff to share, and uh, and you know, everyone
wants to know what I'm doing and all that, and
you know, my coaching or what am I doing. I'm
working with with some really fun people and some exciting
opportunities to do some really cool stuff and putting things
together and off reup for others. And so I'm gonna
I'm gonna keep working at it that way and see
(15:26):
what happens.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Well, tell us coach, uh Pete Carroll with us, tell
us more about that, because I think it was I
think Brennan may have insinuated. And if I got this wrong,
I apologize that you're doing some stuff with high school.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
So tell tell folks kind of more what you're doing
out there with your time.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Now, Well what I'm kind of keeping it under undercover
here for a bit, but I will wind up working
down at USC. I'm gonna I'm gonna wind up teaching
down there. Wow, And I'm looking forward to that. It's
going to be a really uh a really exciting endeavor
when it all is finalized and all that. Not quite yet,
but we're you know, I'm down in LA today doing
(16:03):
some stuff. So that's that's gonna be you know, in line,
and there'll be there is some other stuff that I'm
advising and counseling with, and on some other clubs, not
not football, on some other things and that i'm excited about. Again,
I'm not talking about those if you don't mind, But
if people are worried about me, I'm fine. I'm doing
(16:23):
just fine, and I'm having fun and Glenna and I've
been having a blast and what's our family and all
that kind of stuff. So there's a lot of things
going on and I'm excited about. Don't be a little
bit before it shows up. I was really looking forward
to this Kowait visit and seeing the troops and all that,
and then there'll be some stuff that comes out of
that as well. So I'm gonna be kind of vague
(16:44):
like I always am when you just talk to me,
but uh, I'm really looking forward to it.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Hey, speaking of Glenna, how she's doing. I mean, I know, listen,
retiring being home a lot. Is she okay with you
being home as often as you.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Are now much? I'm a challenge, man, I can't tell
I'm a darn challenge. You know. There's so many things.
I had no clue about what's going on. She just
did everything and took care of everything, and she's I'm
really I'm in school on a regular basis and on
so many different topics, on so many different levels. Yeah,
she just has to keep putting up with it. But
but she knows I'm trying. I'm trying to get better.
(17:20):
But you know, all of the enabling that happens when
you're a head football coach in the NFL and all
the people around you and everybody's there for you, you know,
and I can holler, hey, hey, Ben, you know where
he comes running in there, It makes the phone call
and gives me what I need, and uh, you know,
you can get kind of soft doing that stuff, and
I'd be not very worldly about what's going on around you.
So I'm doing way better, but I got long ways
(17:41):
to go.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Well, you mentioned wanting to be vague about some projects,
and that's that's totally fine, But you also mentioned teaching.
I mean, is there a chance that we could see
you in a classroom at USC.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Oh, yeah, that's that's on that's coming, and uh, I'm
really looking forward to that.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Well, take all the way to sprint time, maybe all
the way to springtime before we started, and.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
Then I'm I'm glad to hear that.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Pete, Yeah, that is great news man, very very cool
that you're doing that. But Pete Carroll's with us. What
do you make of this new coaching staff? I mean,
your opinion on Seahawk related matters is going to matter forever,
right you coach Holmgren, coach Knox, coach Petera. Everybody wants
to know what you guys think about all this stuff.
What's your take on McDonald and the staff is put together?
(18:21):
And have you conversed with them, spent much time with
them at all?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
No, I really haven't. I haven't talked to those guys
at all. I ran into Mike in the parking lot
one day and it was a great chance to just
give us alone to meet, say hey, and you kind
of get greeted and on we go. I have not
had much to do with them in any way, And
really I'm just watching the games a little bit when
I see them on TV. I'm not paying that much
attention to it. It just feels like it's the right
(18:46):
thing to do to let them go. And I don't
really have any opinion other than I know they're really
hard working and it's a really smart group of guys. Yeah,
and I know that they're in a they have a
good group around them to build on, and I think
it sounds like they've done some really the good things
that checking on or heard the Leo's comments about the
guys up front and you no tackling all that they
could be really good up there. That's a really good
(19:08):
place to start. It's a really good place to start.
Could see him back, you know, and with the fellows
and all. He's a real important factor in that football
team and so but I really don't have that. But
I don't have that much information. I'm purpose, you know,
with purpose, I'm staying away from it. Yeah, and I'm
not visiting with him at all.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, Doug kind of said the same thing that he's
not involved. He's kind of staying away for now, you know,
letting the thing be the thing. But I guess for
both of you guys and people will start with you.
Can you imagine waking up on a Sunday morning and
putting the Seahawks game on at ten am or one o'clock?
Will you be sitting in your living room or a
sports bar and watching this football team play.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
I won't be in a sports bar. Kenny Okay, Doug
might be I don't know. It might be changing way
a little bit, you know better than that, I know,
I know, but I'll watch it when I can. I
got a lot of games, you know, with with my
kids and all that that's happening on the weekend. So
I'm really looking forward to the weekends in a big way,
(20:08):
and so it'll be fun with you know, checking in
and I can'tnot watch if I get a chance. I
want to see how they do and see how the guys.
And there are a lot of guys I love on
that football team that I know and they care about,
you know, and want to see how they do. They're
successful and all that, and hopefully they'll make it through
it do some great things.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
So Pablo part of my my negotiations with Softy to
be up here, as he told me, I could talk
about whatever I wanted to talk about, but I had
to ask you this question when you came on air.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
This is not true, by the way, but go ahead.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Okay, one of us is lying. Lets I say that
he wants to know do you still want to coach?
Do you want to coach?
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Again?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Well, you know, I get asked a lot so I'm
pretty familiar with answering that I could coach tomorrow. I mean,
I don't. I'm physically in the best ship I've been
in a long time. I'm ready to be ready to
do all the activities that I'm doing and feeling really
good about it. I could, I don't, but I don't. Really,
I'm not desiring it, you know, at this point, and
(21:08):
this isn't the coaching season. You know, we'll see what happens.
I'm not really uh, I'm not waiting on it at all.
I'm going ahead and I got other things that i
want to do that I'm excited about, and I'm let's
see how all that goes. I'm not thinking that it's uh,
I'm holding my breath and that kind of thing. So
if it's been forty something years, forty eight years or
(21:29):
whatever coaching and that's it, I feel okay about that.
You know, people just ask me, you know, hey, how's
your team doing? How you know, what do you think
of your programming? All that? So I'll tell you when,
you know, when we get further down the roads and
we're looking back and looking back at what's happened, and
you know, what we've done over the years and the
fourteen years and then the nine years oft SCEE. You know,
I feel pretty good about all that. And and if
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that's is what it is and that's man of my coaching,
I can live with that. But I'm telling you I do, honestly,
I feel great and I could. I never was worn
out the game of coach it, you know, And then never,
I've always never, never ran out of the juice or
stammina to do that. Then I don't feel like many
think better than that now. So but that's that's That's
(22:11):
about as vague as I can be. And uh, I
don't know. I got no other alternatives right now to
think about. And I'm flying about that.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
No, I think that's the right thought.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
And I remember conversations that you and I had before,
where you know, we talked about that the energy it
doesn't feel you're not drained by it because you're living
in your passion, you know, and so it actually gives
you life.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
And so I hear you.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But that's exactly that's exactly right, Doug. It is if
I feed off of the people, the and the relationships
and the challenges and the ups and the downs of
it all, and the bounce backs and all that kind
of stuff. That stuff. I love that stuff, and uh,
you know, competing to me, man, that's never going away.
So wherever that fits and wherever it can be directed,
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you know I'll follow that along.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Yeah, I have no doubt about that.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
But you know, as somebody who cares about you, who
loves you, I would tell you go sit ass down somewhere,
spend some time with Glenna. And you know I've said
that to you before you listen, you got nothing else
to prove. I know you have the competitive spirit in
you and I'm grateful for that. So don't ever lose that,
and I know you never will. But you know Glenna
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deserves some time too.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
And I know you know that.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I appreciate your thoughts, and you know this has been
one of the really special relationships. Let's let's just keep
it going. I will tell you that over in Kuwait,
you know, I had a team. My team was an
Air Force team and a bunch of guys, and I
was thrick and battling. You know, the way I told him,
I said, look, I'm gonna coach you guys exactly like
the coach football guys. And so let's start it right now.
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You know, it's all about the ball, and here we go.
You know, I wanted them to hear an NFL coach
coach them so they would have that experience, regardless whether
its or not. Hey, we went right into our one
three one trap we were running. I told him there's
no three point shot that I never I never would
have turned down. So don't you turn one down either. That.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I got to ask you before you go, coach, And
Pete Carroll's with us, watching your son over at you
dub with Steve Belichick and what Jed's doing. Can you
kind of give us some thought on how involved you
may or may not be with them, whether just over
the phone, over email, maybe watching tape, helping them scout whatever.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
What will your role, if anything, be with Jed Fish
this fall?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
You think there's no role, but but being a friend
to Jed and the dad did Brennan. I'm really looking
forward to their season. They've done such a nice job.
I got a chance to watch them a number of
times in the spring, and they are coaching their team
just like they coach to Arizona team that really got
it together. I think they're way ahead of where they
were when they first went into the Arizona with their
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style and their philosophy and approach and all that. They're
going to have a nice team now. And it's against
you know what maybe the everybody's thinking because they lost
so many kids, but they put it back together. I know.
Brennan is a real competitive boost with the guys that
came in here in the fall, and the guys got
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healthy and all that. So uh, they're they're gonna I
think they're gonna do really well. They got a nice,
nice chance to get started this schedule, get roll a
little bit, see if they can put some momentum together.
And I can't wait to watch him. I'm just I'm
just as fired up as any fan could be to
see how they how they do it. Steve Steve. I
did watch these defense and he's got a really good
scheme obviously, and it showed up and they were aggressive
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and so there was just a lot of real positives there.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Pablo, Thank you, thank you for thank you for your time,
Thanks for coming on the air.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Listen again. You know how much I care about you
that much.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I love you, little brother.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Yeh ye, just very great, just very great.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
The fellas I don't get to see all those guys
as much as you can. Say, we'll get a chance
and I'll get together when we get back in town.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
And give Glenn a hug for me. Please.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Sure, we'll pass along.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
You guys, are you talking to me or Doug when
you said and you loved him to me?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Or yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Which one?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Sorry, Saftie, We we just ain't quite there yet.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Hey, thanks coach, thanks for doing this, and let's talk sooner.
I appreciate it. I take care you bet. Pete Carroll
with us on the radio show. I mean, sounds exactly
the same. And why shouldn't. He was only nine months ago,
for God's sake, it's not twenty years ago. Let's come
back and we'll wrap that up. Get some reaction from
Doug next on ninety three to three KJRFM Live.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
From the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now
back to Softie and Dick Gone your Home for the
Huskies and the Craken Sports Radio ninety three point three
kjr FM.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
All right, First of all, thanks to Pete Carroll for
joining us on the radio show. You guys talk a lot, right, Doug,
Doug Balwin's in for Dick Fane. You guys talk a lot,
but for us, that's the first time we've heard from
him since he left the Seahawks. And I don't want
to say fired. It just I feel like he deserves
better than that, you know, But he was fired but
moved on, all right, whatever. But hearing him talk about
(27:00):
what he's doing now and going to Kuwait and teaching
at USC, do you feel good about his prospects, because
I know you were kind of worried about him for
a while there.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
No, he sounds good, but you know it's I hope
that he is genuinely good, you know, But I also
know because what I did and when I left, like
you try to distract yourself with a whole bunch of
different stuff, right, And I listen.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Pete is he is.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
He's a grown man. He has much more wisdom than
I have. And so you know, if he says he's good,
I trust it he's good. But you know, somebody who
cares about him and who has been through that process
and who has also seen other people go through that process,
not necessarily in a healthy way or something to worry
about him.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, Well, I was asking you off the air that
one thing I wanted to get to that. We just
it just didn't make sense. Is how do you deal
with being told that you can't coach in the NFL?
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Right?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
How do you think he dealt with that?
Speaker 5 (27:52):
I mean, I think he handled it, at least from
the outside looking in. I think he handled it really well.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
No question.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
But I talked to him. I know what it is.
Of course he's competitive.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
It's hard for him.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Of course it.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Would be hard for anybody, right, you know, he's human,
just like everybody else.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
When you were done playing, did you ever wonder did
I make a mistake? Do I want to get back
in this? Or did you become totally crystal clear? I
know my next step and it's leaving football behind.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Yeah, listen, that off season it became crystal clear to
me that it was time to go. So I no,
I didn't have when I was done, all of my
energy shifted towards Okay, listen, I know this is going
to be hard and there's a lot of pitfalls that
I need to avoid. So how do I avoid them
and not make this worse? So that was what my
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primary focus was on.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Gotcha for people that did not hear it earlier. Everything
you're doing, we'll talk about that coming up in the
six pm hour, obviously, but the question I asked Pete
about sitting down on a Sunday morning and watching the
Seahawks at ten o'clock. And by the way, I think
Pete took a shot at me for the idea of
being a sports bar at ten am.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Lots of people are in sports bars at ten a.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I'm having breakfast, for God's sake, We're not necessarily getting
snocker at ten o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Do you wake up on a Sunday and watch the
Seahawks at home with the kids? How do you do that?
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Well, I'm up anyways, and my wife she actually likes
so she likes to have the game on and she'll say,
it's in the background, right right right.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I can't have it on.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Because if I have it on i'm watching it, my
body just reacts to it, just like it would any
other time I'm playing football. So you know, it's challenging
for me in that regard. Yep, However, I am, you know,
five years removed.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I did.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I was observant this year around you know, camp time
came around. I could feel my body reacting to just
the time the season, right, I am interested to see
how my body responds to me watching it this year.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
YEA, so well, I'll let you know.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
All right, keep us up to day.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
We'll come back at six and talk more about what
you're doing off the field. Now, I want to hear
about that dive into that Mariners tonight. We got to
hit that as well. Anders next on ninety three three
kJ R FM.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Live from the rn R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now
back to Softie and Dick on your Home for the
Huskies and the Craken Sports Radio ninety three kJ r FM.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
All right more with Doug Baldvin coming up at the
six pm. Are we have a pair of tickets for
the Seahawk Brown game on Saturday we're gonna give away.
Anthony bay Rudy, the Venu King will join us at
six forty five and he's bearing gifts on the air.
Oh well, oh, he's going to give you a proclamation
for the Seahawks season. Your job then to email me
with the answer first one that I get to my
(30:38):
email inbox at SOFTYKJR at gmail dot com. We'll win
the tickets for the Seahawk Brown game on Saturday night.
And then thank god, about ten pm, the preseason will
be over. Oh my god, you have no idea, not
a fan at all. There are not many things in
sports that I dislike more than NFL preseason football.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
As a matter of.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Fact, did you name any well, if you put, if
you put on the spectrum on one end is things
I hate, and the other end is things I love
in sports. On the end of things I love, NFL
regular season football is right there touching the wall. On
the other end is preseason football. I mean, you could
not have two things more opposite of each other that
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involved the same league than the NFL regular season and
the NFL preseason. So I'm looking forward to this nonsense,
the charade anders being over on Saturday night. We can
start talking real football and talking about real players that
actually will play in real game.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Am I a bad NFL fan slash bad Seahawks saying
for not watching a single second time of any preseason
game they've had so far, not.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
At all the Tennessee Titan game.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Could not have given a damn about anything happening in
the game that day at all. Nothing, zip, zero, totally
with you, and then I'll be completely pulling a one
to eighty by the time the Denver game comes around.
So Mariners tonight, Chuck Powell was on yesterday says, if
they dropped the Dodger series, Scott's service has to go.
So I guess Chuck's mind, Scott's service is literally managing
(32:02):
for his job tonight against the LA Dodgers. I don't
think that's what's happening in reality with John Stanton, but
I guess the question is this, Go back and think
about how pissed off you were after the sweep of
the Tigers. They've since lost three out of four. All Right,
they get beaten in three games by a team of
the Pittsburgh Pirates that is going literally nowhere. Now they
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manage zero offense against the LA Dodgers yesterday. They're having
the same problems they've been having the entire season, wasting
yet another quality start by Brian wu who makes, let's
face it, one mistake and pays for it. In the
three games they've lost, They've scored five total runs against
the Pirates in LA. Think about how pissed off you
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were Friday morning, and now tell me where you are
now after the last four games, Because whatever your emotions
were on Friday, they've got to be amplified after what
you saw in the last four games.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Again, I'm gonna ask you, am I a bad fan
for wishing they almost crash and burn at this point?
Because it's getting to the point where if Ian talked
about this on his show, and Dick talked about it
yesterday too, where you almost get worried that if they
kind of rally a little bit and get close to
the end of the season, right then they like missed
the playoffs by one or two games, that they run
it back with this same group, which I think they
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cannot do for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
No, I totally agree with you. I mean, like, I
think Chuck was right on when he said the other
day they could make the World Series and they have
to blow up the offense. Yeah, but that's if Chuck
is making the decison exactly right. But I don't know
how anybody that has any authority at all with the
Mariners could not agree with that, because even if this
team finds a way to sneak into the playoffs, let's
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say the Astros fall part two, Yeah, and the Mariners
win eighty six and they win the West and they
make the playoffs, and then just over a magical month,
they have a Joe Flacco type raven run right. He
earned a giant contract based on four games they go banana.
Do you really trust that group to come back and
do it for six months the next year? Of course
you don't, because winning the division with eighty five or
(34:07):
eighty six games is not gonna happen very often, and
it might happen this year. So I think, if you're
stanton to Poto, if he survives this, you're looking for
a new first baseman, a new DH, a new right fielder.
Maybe ro Bless is the guy, but ro Bless has
kind of caught off a little bit. Maybe third base
you're looking for. I mean, you've got.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Multiple holes in this offense.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And that's what really gets me is that you would
think that in this time in the franchise's history, when
the Mariner rotation is so damn good, they would have
by now figured out a way to at least supplement
that with an average offense.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
And they haven't even done that.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
They can't even be average, They can't even build an
average offense. So after nine years of this, what makes
us think anything will be different the following season? It won't.
This is who they are. This is who Jerry Depoto is,
It's who Scott's Services. They refused to be anything different.
They refuse to change their philosophies on how to move
runners over and manufacture runs. And you know what, I
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think Scott's Service and I actually appreciate him saying this
because I think he kind of made it clear to
everybody that there are no more excuses heading into year nine,
when he came out and said, this is the most
talented team we've had since I've been here. Okay, fine,
so it's squarely now on you. It is squarely now
on you to get the most out of these guys
because you just told us you have all the pieces
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you need. So him putting that out there made it
pretty clear that there are no more excuses. And if
Scott's Service were a fan, he'd be thinking exactly just
like us.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
My question for you is if the Marriage don't make
the playoffs this year, make it, if they you know,
just missed by one gamer, if they completely fall apart, right,
what do you think is the most likely scenario.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Most likely scenario I think is that Scott's gone, but
Jerry comes back. Okay, that I think is the most
likely scenario, because I still think that Jerry Depoto is
offering some pretty cool stuff to this organization with the
way the farm system has been rebuilt and the rotation.
I honestly don't really know any more what Scott's Service
is bringing that nobody else can bring, right, And look,
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I mean, you missed the division by a game, you
likely do it by winning eighty four eighty five games.
The Mariners in two thousand and two and two thousand
and three won ninety three games and missed the playoffs.
It's different to miss the playoffs with ninety three versus
eighty four eighty five. You could miss the playoffs and
win ninety seven games for God's sakes, right, I mean,
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the A's finished in second place in two thousand and one.
They won one hundred games and they finished in second place.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
So forget, what kind of team are you?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And if you're a team that's dead last in Major
League Baseball in batting average, that's not sustainable to continue
to run that back every single year. So I mean, honestly,
what I would probably do if I were in charge
is I would clean house and fire everybody and get
rid of both of them. My gut tells me that
Stanton's going to keep one and not the other.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
I just wonder how much actually changes if it's Scott
Service gone. But Jerry stays, yeah, I just don't know
if it's going to be any different.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, it might not be different at all. I'm just
telling you what I think he'll do. You ask me
what I think reality is. I think reality is is
that I think John Stanton looks at this rotation. I
think he's infatuated by the idea of having a phenomenal
pitching staff that can pitch and thrive at T Mobile Park,
and they're very good. Nothing at T Mobile Park and
for now cost nothing. But that's gonna change. I mean,
(37:31):
Logan Gilbert's going to arbitration, is he not? Yeah, George
Kirby is a year away from arbitration. Bryce Miller, I
think is a year away from arbitration.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
You still don't really have to pay them until they're
free agents.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Right, we're not talking. You have thirty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
But the way arbitration works, and you know this, the
agent puts in a number, the team puts in a number,
and the arbiter picks one dependent.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
It's just one of the other, right, So that payroll
is gonna go up next year, and then you will
garber money and you owe handing your money. So can
we really expect them to add to this thing over
the offseason with free agents and acquiring big time contracts.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
I don't think so at all.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I mean, that's what's so infuriating about this year.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
Well not unless they do what they did last year
and sell good pieces off to get rid of payroll.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
But that's the infuriating punt that they have to do,
is that.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
And this goes back to before you're born, with Jesus
Montero and Michael Panada and I was born.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Neither one of those worked out. I get that.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
But the philosophy if we have no choice but to
get rid of great pitching to get the hitting we're
looking for because we can't do it ourselves insane.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
And that's what you get when you add to your
team via trade instead of via a free agency where
you can just pay someone right, instead of having to
get rid of something to get something.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Well, look, you got four guys in a rotation that
are making seven million dollars combined. If there's ever a
year to strike and go for it and put aside
whatever business concerns you've got about your wallet. It's right now,
it would have been the last three years this honest. Yes,
this was a gift from the gods. Anders, I mean
this year even more so because now they lead the
league in RS. Yes, but you're right, the three years
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of this. This year was the year seven million dollars
for the back eighty percent of your rotation. And you
can't even take that gift from the baseball gods, And
I mean, just the hell with it, man. Doug Baldwin
rejoins US next on ninety three three KJRFM
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
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Speaker 4 (00:30):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
Who called me Frosty, He'll join us in a matter
of seconds here on the radio show Crack and signing
Matty Beniers to a seven year, seven point one four
million dollars per year contract. Today, Mariners back at it
against the Dodgers, looking to avoid another series loss after
a three to nothing lost last night. UB Rutgers Week five.
Rutgers linebacker Mohammad Toure on the Buckets Award watch list.
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He's out for the year with an ACL injury and
Baseball Scoreboard watching tonight. Boston and Houston coming up at
ten Minnesota, San Diego six forty tonight justin Verlander, by
the way, is going to be pitching tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
He's been out since the night of June.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Pittsburgh and Texas at five oh five, in LA and
Kansas City at five ten.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
What else we got?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
NCAA football Oklahoma State putting a QR code on the
back of the player's helmets, allowing fans to donate money
directly to players and their NIL page again. The Mariners
six forty this evening against ere excuse me, seven oh
five tonight against the LA Dodgers. Brian Will yesterday six
and a third, two runs, taking the loss. Bryce Miller
(01:39):
versus Walker Buehler this evening. All right, we are efforting.
This is just perfect right now. By the way, Doug,
to get a hold of Pete Carroll here, ex head coach.
What I think is happening is he's expecting a phone
call from my cell phone and we are calling him
from the studio, right. So he just wrote me back
and said not there yet. What does that mean in
Pete Carroll Lee's when he says yet, he's not ready.
(02:01):
He's not ready yet. Okay, yeah, all right, so I
will say great, text me when you are ready to
go text when you are ready. This is called producing
on the fly, all right. Gotta be ready to be
doing multiple things here, Doug in this business. Doug Baldwins
filling in for Dick Fane. Pete Carroll will join us
in a few minutes. We're talking. Earlier today, Anders and
(02:21):
I were about some things we wanted to go over
with you, and one thing that Anders brought up is
this eighteen games schedule potentially on the horizon, seventeen games
right now in the NFL three preseason games. I gotta
be honest with you. I cannot stand preseason football. I
hate it. I am so looking forward to Saturday night
at ten o'clock being over. By the way, would you
rather play twenty games and have all of them count
(02:43):
or play three preseason games and a seventeen game regular season.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
I mean again, it's a matter of perspective, right. The
young guys need those preseason games to get reps because
they're not going to get reps typically in the regular season.
So I mean it's it's necessary for development. So I
guess the question would be, if you were to change that,
how do you get the reps for those young guys
that they need in order to develop.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Right right, well, and the veterans aren't even playing right.
It's it's become Did you play a lot in the
p I'm trying to remember how much you played in
the preseason?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
My first year played a little bit. First and second
year I played a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, and you felt like as you went on you
just didn't need it or it was too risky.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
No.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I mean as a rookie, I needed that experience to
tell me whether or not I actually play at this level, right,
you know? And I fortunately had some success and so
found a little bit of comfort. And I think a
lot of young guys need that.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well, Doug Baldwin again is with us, and for Dick today,
we're gonna have Pete on in a matter of minutes
here just waiting for his go his his green light.
Did he bust your balls about being late for meetings
and things like that when that happened.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I was seldomly late, Okay, right, I think maybe once
or twice.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Was he a stickler for the clock?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
He was, but he would do it in a very
nice way, gotcha? Yeah, Okay, that made you not want
to disappear him?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Well, Don James, as you know, the old ub coach
back in the y. I used to say, Don James,
time get here five minutes early, right, And so when
Pete says five o'clock, it's five o'clock.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
But now he's running late.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Make sure he knows that I.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Will tell him that. I will tell him when he
comes on the air.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
We talked about life after football for you and being
a dad and all that goes along with this. I
don't know how else to say this. I want to
just ask you, because I know a lot of guys
mentally and physically struggle with the transition.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
How are you doing.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
I'm doing excellent now physically.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Mentally, how are you doing?
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I struggled for a very long time, but probably in
the last I would say the last two years is
when I kind of find the balance to get back
to healthy. But it has been a process.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
There were there because I often hear about guys retiring
and saying things like, you know what, I'm going to
walk away now because I got my health right. I
can pick up my kids, I can play with my
grandkids down in the day. You know, my knees are fine,
my neck is fine. Did you tell yourself. I want
to make sure I go out on my terms so
I can make sure I'm as physically capable as possible
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to play with my kids when they situation arise.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
One thousand percent. But not just that. You know, my
father was law enforcement officer for thirty five years, right
and so, and he he, he did a whole bunch
while he was in law enforcement, and I didn't get
to see him as much as I would have liked
to have seen him, you know, as my father. And
so I told myself that I would not I could
not play the game at the level that I wanted to,
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and so I could not be in the game when
I had children. I wanted to dedicate that time to
them and also obviously being healthy enough to have quality
time with them. So yeah, it really mattered to me.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well, listen, I mean it's one of those things where
that team and that era of Seayawk football will be
remembered forever, there's no question about it.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
And you guys set the standard, and the guy that.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Helped you, the guy that led you through the entire process,
is joining us right now on the radio show for
the first time. And I can't think of how long
a former head coach of your Seattle Seahawks, Pete Carroll
is with us right now on the radio program Coach,
how are you, Softy?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
And Doug Baldwin, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well? What's up? Guys? Well, and there's a lot going on.
I think you're right. I don't think I've been on
the radio. I can't remember well when when it was.
This might be the first time.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
It is up.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Pablo? Miss you?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Do we have? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I'm here, we got you, got you Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Maybe you're getting teary eyed because Doug just told you
how much he misses being around you.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I mean when you hear when you hear guys say
stuff like that, when you hear from guys like Doug, Pete,
what what?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
What memories get conjured up for you? Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Man, there's so many memories. Most of it is is
having the fun, you know. Most of it's uh thinking
about just the laughs and the good times and the
kind of hugging up on each other when plays are
made and things are you know, special things like that.
Those are the moments that stay with me. And there's
bigger moments too to talk about all but with Doug
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and h and myself. We we had a really fun
friendship and do this thing. And I loved watching him
compete his ass off. He was amazing and so all
of it, uh, you know, is very special.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
You know, Pete, we.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Were just talking about the time that I don't know
if you remember this, but I forget what was the
context around it, but I came up to you on
the bus and I just told you. I was like, hey,
I want you to you know, don't forget about the
impact that you have as a male leader and these males,
these young males lives.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Do you remember that we were on the bus?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, I do. I do remember that, Yeah, and quite clearly. Yeah,
go ahead, no, go ahead. Oh well, I'm just yeah,
it's uh, you know, I think we we realized that
there's a really good way to coach and to play together,
and that we give to each other and and be
open and uh and caring. And you know, you were
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one for sure that that we passed it back and forth.
That's a great example of a time. You know, I
would do nothing but grave about about you, to work
with you and all that, and and uh, you weren't
the easiest guys to deal with. But uh, but I
appreciated so much where you were coming from because it
was so important to you to excel. It's important to
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you to show who you were, you know, and make
that statement every chance you got. And that's that to me,
That's that's the guys I'm wanting to surround myself with
and trying to win football games and do great things
and you know, and take on those big challenges.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
I remember you always used to say that you wanted
the guys that you would pick to play basketball with.
You went out on the exactly the street, like who's
who's coming with you? But you know, we were also
talking about just how you impacted us, not just you know,
as players, not just as you knows, as colleagues and
on the team and and you as our coach, but
just as a human being. And you know that they're
(08:57):
the saying goes as like a player's coach. And I
don't even like that saying because it doesn't really encapsulate
like what that experience is. And I'm just curious from
your perspective, like when did that you know, solidify for you?
How did you know what? How did you how did
you formalize your approach in the game and just how
you wanted to coach, because obviously it impacted all.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, well it really goes a long ways back. And
when I first got the sense of how you can connect,
I was in a meeting at UOPI when I was
coaching a DVS there one night in the camp, probably
my first year coaching the back and uh, we you know,
we were preddy programmed. We were just slapping along and
(09:37):
it was a night meeting and been going. I said,
you know, hey, let me ask you guys before tomorrow,
what do you guys want to work on? You know,
and it tomorrow's practice, and the guys you know, started
feeding stuff. I was taking notes, putting on the board
and all that and old talk board and uh and
so we we just went for I don't know, another
half hour just talking to stuff. Everybody wanted to try
to get better at So meeting's over and I run
(10:00):
back over to the to the office on the UOP
campus and I run into Chester Cantas say hed, coach,
I said, Coach, you won't believe the meeting I just had.
I was talking to the guys and asked about what
they want to work on. They are giving me this suggestion.
That suggestion. Everybody was kind of they're all charged up,
and you know, I could feel the energy of the
guys had been you know, listened to for the first time.
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And and before I could finish what I'm in all
my excitement about, he said, don't you ever let those
players tell you what to do in the southern draw
from Kentucky, you know. And and he tell me you're
the coach, You're you're in charge, you know, don't ever
listen to those guys. And I was just just blessed up,
you know that I thought I had something here, you know,
I thought I'd really touch base and something. And I
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went home that night and uh, I thought about, you know,
that was real. It was a really good thing. And
I know coach, I love him and all that, but
I'm going to do all that stuff that we said
we're going to do, you know. And so it was
my first chance at kind of departing from the standard
way of thinking about being a coach, and I got
rewarded with it then and I've never been never been
(11:03):
away from that thought of always relating to the guys
and making sure that you you know, you take the
opportunity to get to know who they are and work
with them and listen to them and still coach that
hell out of them too though, and be hard on
them and demanding and high standards and expectations and all
of that. And uh, it started really early. Doug is
really the answer to that. And and I've felt all
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along that I had a pretty good connection with guys.
But honestly, to tell you, guys, you know, when I'm
now that I'm out and from the from the Hawks
and I'm out and around the area in town and
everywhere that I've been going, I've been getting so much
love from everybody. It's been amazing. And uh, you know,
people can't wait to come up and say some pick picture,
autograph something that don't tell me about their their son
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or their or their uncle who you know, loved the
way we did things there, and how engaged they're doing,
how much they missed me, you know, all that kind
of sappy stuff. But that's been really meaningful. And I
just I didn't, you know, I didn't have any clue
that you know, we've had that kind of connection on
the outside, and it's been really obvious. And I just
got back, did you guys know, I went to Kuwait
last week. Yeah yeah, a group of guys that have
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been taking care of the troops over the years, for
many years that they've have a regular program where they
do a hard, hard court uh basketball tournament to the troops.
And so in Kuwait, there's three major bases there and
uh so I went over with seven other basketball coaches
and myself when Tim Floyd, the old guy used to
coach at SC ask me if I go, and we
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just had a phenomenal time over there, but coaching hoops,
but over there running into all the soldiers and all
those guys were nuts about signing autograss and just it
was just an outpouring. So I feel pretty fricking lucky
and very fortunate, you know that we had effect, and
uh I'm thrilled about it. I can't tell you that
(12:50):
I don't like it, you know, I do, and and
I'm please, but but it just reminds me how much
I got to keep giving back and keep doing it.
So so it is it isn't stuff.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Yeah, Pete, you you hit on a number of things.
We don't have enough time to all right, Well, Softie says,
we do. Sorry, Frosty says, we do. You know, I
think one of the things that I took away that
I learned from our time together Pete, was just, you know,
how much you genuinely cared and loved the guys, but
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at the same time you had to balance the business
of it and also the you know, the accountability. And
I think I learned in that process just that you
can't have love without the boundaries. There has to be
the boundaries. The boundaries. They're necessary for you to understand
where you're, where you are, where you stand. And I'm
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just curious for you, like what, like, you know, you
just said the story about how the coach told you
came back with this thought and the coach like, nah,
I don't do that, but yet you persevere through that.
You you were consistent through it, Like what, yeah, yeah, but
why why were you so convicted and why are you
still convicted about that?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Because it just felt right, you know, it felt right,
And I've always gone with my feelings and trying to
be really in touch with what's what's happening, and trying
to feel other people's sense and awareness and emotions and
all of that too, you know, to try to get
to the truth in the essence of what's really going on,
instead of kind of blossing over, you know, and in
arm's length. And I don't think you can go as far.
(14:22):
You can't you can't have as much impact. You can't
be you can't be great doing it that way, in
my opinion, And so, uh, you know that it's just
been a way, and people have accepted, you know, I'm
you know, I'm up beat and having fun and all that. Well,
some some people that I worked with didn't didn't see
it as being constructed all They fired my butt for
you know, I got fired after one year that Jeff
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could figure me out and after following Parcels in New England.
You know what was I thinking, you know, a till
of the Hunt coaching and and here I'm going to
come in there and and they just come to the
to the Super Bowl. I'm gonna get all revved up.
What a dumb idea that was. But but still that's
just the way I've been doing it. And and uh,
I'm I'm I'm excited about it, and I'm excited about
(15:05):
it now because there's there's more stuff to teach, there's
more stuff to share, and uh, and you know, everyone
wants to know what I'm doing and all that, and
you know, my coaching or what am I doing. I'm
working with with some really fun people and some exciting
opportunities to do some really cool stuff and putting things
together and off reup for others. And so I'm gonna
I'm gonna keep working at it that way and see
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what happens.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Well, tell us coach, uh Pete Carroll with us, tell
us more about that, because I think it was I
think Brennan may have insinuated. And if I got this wrong,
I apologize that you're doing some stuff with high school.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
So tell tell folks kind of more what you're doing
out there with your time.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Now, Well what I'm kind of keeping it under undercover
here for a bit, but I will wind up working
down at USC. I'm gonna I'm gonna wind up teaching
down there. Wow, And I'm looking forward to that. It's
going to be a really uh a really exciting endeavor
when it all is finalized and all that. Not quite yet,
but we're you know, I'm down in LA today doing
(16:03):
some stuff. So that's that's gonna be you know, in line,
and there'll be there is some other stuff that I'm
advising and counseling with, and on some other clubs, not
not football, on some other things and that i'm excited about. Again,
I'm not talking about those if you don't mind, But
if people are worried about me, I'm fine. I'm doing
(16:23):
just fine, and I'm having fun and Glenna and I've
been having a blast and what's our family and all
that kind of stuff. So there's a lot of things
going on and I'm excited about. Don't be a little
bit before it shows up. I was really looking forward
to this Kowait visit and seeing the troops and all that,
and then there'll be some stuff that comes out of
that as well. So I'm gonna be kind of vague
(16:44):
like I always am when you just talk to me,
but uh, I'm really looking forward to it.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Hey, speaking of Glenna, how she's doing. I mean, I know, listen,
retiring being home a lot. Is she okay with you
being home as often as you.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Are now much? I'm a challenge, man, I can't tell
I'm a darn challenge. You know. There's so many things.
I had no clue about what's going on. She just
did everything and took care of everything, and she's I'm
really I'm in school on a regular basis and on
so many different topics, on so many different levels. Yeah,
she just has to keep putting up with it. But
but she knows I'm trying. I'm trying to get better.
(17:20):
But you know, all of the enabling that happens when
you're a head football coach in the NFL and all
the people around you and everybody's there for you, you know,
and I can holler, hey, hey, Ben, you know where
he comes running in there, It makes the phone call
and gives me what I need, and uh, you know,
you can get kind of soft doing that stuff, and
I'd be not very worldly about what's going on around you.
So I'm doing way better, but I got long ways
(17:41):
to go.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Well, you mentioned wanting to be vague about some projects,
and that's that's totally fine, But you also mentioned teaching.
I mean, is there a chance that we could see
you in a classroom at USC.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Oh, yeah, that's that's on that's coming, and uh, I'm
really looking forward to that.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Well, take all the way to sprint time, maybe all
the way to springtime before we started, and.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
Then I'm I'm glad to hear that.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Pete, Yeah, that is great news man, very very cool
that you're doing that. But Pete Carroll's with us. What
do you make of this new coaching staff? I mean,
your opinion on Seahawk related matters is going to matter forever,
right you coach Holmgren, coach Knox, coach Petera. Everybody wants
to know what you guys think about all this stuff.
What's your take on McDonald and the staff is put together?
(18:21):
And have you conversed with them, spent much time with
them at all?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
No, I really haven't. I haven't talked to those guys
at all. I ran into Mike in the parking lot
one day and it was a great chance to just
give us alone to meet, say hey, and you kind
of get greeted and on we go. I have not
had much to do with them in any way, And
really I'm just watching the games a little bit when
I see them on TV. I'm not paying that much
attention to it. It just feels like it's the right
(18:46):
thing to do to let them go. And I don't
really have any opinion other than I know they're really
hard working and it's a really smart group of guys. Yeah,
and I know that they're in a they have a
good group around them to build on, and I think
it sounds like they've done some really the good things
that checking on or heard the Leo's comments about the
guys up front and you no tackling all that they
could be really good up there. That's a really good
(19:08):
place to start. It's a really good place to start.
Could see him back, you know, and with the fellows
and all. He's a real important factor in that football
team and so but I really don't have that. But
I don't have that much information. I'm purpose, you know,
with purpose, I'm staying away from it. Yeah, and I'm
not visiting with him at all.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, Doug kind of said the same thing that he's
not involved. He's kind of staying away for now, you know,
letting the thing be the thing. But I guess for
both of you guys and people will start with you.
Can you imagine waking up on a Sunday morning and
putting the Seahawks game on at ten am or one o'clock?
Will you be sitting in your living room or a
sports bar and watching this football team play.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
I won't be in a sports bar. Kenny Okay, Doug
might be I don't know. It might be changing way
a little bit, you know better than that, I know,
I know, but I'll watch it when I can. I
got a lot of games, you know, with with my
kids and all that that's happening on the weekend. So
I'm really looking forward to the weekends in a big way,
(20:08):
and so it'll be fun with you know, checking in
and I can'tnot watch if I get a chance. I
want to see how they do and see how the guys.
And there are a lot of guys I love on
that football team that I know and they care about,
you know, and want to see how they do. They're
successful and all that, and hopefully they'll make it through
it do some great things.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
So Pablo part of my my negotiations with Softy to
be up here, as he told me, I could talk
about whatever I wanted to talk about, but I had
to ask you this question when you came on air.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
This is not true, by the way, but go ahead.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Okay, one of us is lying. Lets I say that
he wants to know do you still want to coach?
Do you want to coach?
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Again?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Well, you know, I get asked a lot so I'm
pretty familiar with answering that I could coach tomorrow. I mean,
I don't. I'm physically in the best ship I've been
in a long time. I'm ready to be ready to
do all the activities that I'm doing and feeling really
good about it. I could, I don't, but I don't. Really,
I'm not desiring it, you know, at this point, and
(21:08):
this isn't the coaching season. You know, we'll see what happens.
I'm not really uh, I'm not waiting on it at all.
I'm going ahead and I got other things that i
want to do that I'm excited about, and I'm let's
see how all that goes. I'm not thinking that it's uh,
I'm holding my breath and that kind of thing. So
if it's been forty something years, forty eight years or
(21:29):
whatever coaching and that's it, I feel okay about that.
You know, people just ask me, you know, hey, how's
your team doing? How you know, what do you think
of your programming? All that? So I'll tell you when,
you know, when we get further down the roads and
we're looking back and looking back at what's happened, and
you know, what we've done over the years and the
fourteen years and then the nine years oft SCEE. You know,
I feel pretty good about all that. And and if
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that's is what it is and that's man of my coaching,
I can live with that. But I'm telling you I do, honestly,
I feel great and I could. I never was worn
out the game of coach it, you know, And then never,
I've always never, never ran out of the juice or
stammina to do that. Then I don't feel like many
think better than that now. So but that's that's That's
(22:11):
about as vague as I can be. And uh, I
don't know. I got no other alternatives right now to
think about. And I'm flying about that.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
No, I think that's the right thought.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
And I remember conversations that you and I had before,
where you know, we talked about that the energy it
doesn't feel you're not drained by it because you're living
in your passion, you know, and so it actually gives
you life.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
And so I hear you.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But that's exactly that's exactly right, Doug. It is if
I feed off of the people, the and the relationships
and the challenges and the ups and the downs of
it all, and the bounce backs and all that kind
of stuff. That stuff. I love that stuff, and uh,
you know, competing to me, man, that's never going away.
So wherever that fits and wherever it can be directed,
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you know I'll follow that along.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Yeah, I have no doubt about that.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
But you know, as somebody who cares about you, who
loves you, I would tell you go sit ass down somewhere,
spend some time with Glenna. And you know I've said
that to you before you listen, you got nothing else
to prove. I know you have the competitive spirit in
you and I'm grateful for that. So don't ever lose that,
and I know you never will. But you know Glenna
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deserves some time too.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
And I know you know that.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I appreciate your thoughts, and you know this has been
one of the really special relationships. Let's let's just keep
it going. I will tell you that over in Kuwait,
you know, I had a team. My team was an
Air Force team and a bunch of guys, and I
was thrick and battling. You know, the way I told him,
I said, look, I'm gonna coach you guys exactly like
the coach football guys. And so let's start it right now.
(23:40):
You know, it's all about the ball, and here we go.
You know, I wanted them to hear an NFL coach
coach them so they would have that experience, regardless whether
its or not. Hey, we went right into our one
three one trap we were running. I told him there's
no three point shot that I never I never would
have turned down. So don't you turn one down either. That.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I got to ask you before you go, coach, And
Pete Carroll's with us, watching your son over at you
dub with Steve Belichick and what Jed's doing. Can you
kind of give us some thought on how involved you
may or may not be with them, whether just over
the phone, over email, maybe watching tape, helping them scout whatever.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
What will your role, if anything, be with Jed Fish
this fall?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
You think there's no role, but but being a friend
to Jed and the dad did Brennan. I'm really looking
forward to their season. They've done such a nice job.
I got a chance to watch them a number of
times in the spring, and they are coaching their team
just like they coach to Arizona team that really got
it together. I think they're way ahead of where they
were when they first went into the Arizona with their
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style and their philosophy and approach and all that. They're
going to have a nice team now. And it's against
you know what maybe the everybody's thinking because they lost
so many kids, but they put it back together. I know.
Brennan is a real competitive boost with the guys that
came in here in the fall, and the guys got
(25:03):
healthy and all that. So uh, they're they're gonna I
think they're gonna do really well. They got a nice,
nice chance to get started this schedule, get roll a
little bit, see if they can put some momentum together.
And I can't wait to watch him. I'm just I'm
just as fired up as any fan could be to
see how they how they do it. Steve Steve. I
did watch these defense and he's got a really good
scheme obviously, and it showed up and they were aggressive
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and so there was just a lot of real positives there.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Pablo, Thank you, thank you for thank you for your time,
Thanks for coming on the air.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Listen again. You know how much I care about you
that much.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I love you, little brother.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Yeh ye, just very great, just very great.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
The fellas I don't get to see all those guys
as much as you can. Say, we'll get a chance
and I'll get together when we get back in town.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
And give Glenn a hug for me. Please.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Sure, we'll pass along.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
You guys, are you talking to me or Doug when
you said and you loved him to me?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Or yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Which one?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Sorry, Saftie, We we just ain't quite there yet.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Hey, thanks coach, thanks for doing this, and let's talk sooner.
I appreciate it. I take care you bet. Pete Carroll
with us on the radio show. I mean, sounds exactly
the same. And why shouldn't. He was only nine months ago,
for God's sake, it's not twenty years ago. Let's come
back and we'll wrap that up. Get some reaction from
Doug next on ninety three to three KJRFM Live.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
From the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now
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Speaker 2 (26:38):
All right, First of all, thanks to Pete Carroll for
joining us on the radio show. You guys talk a lot, right, Doug,
Doug Balwin's in for Dick Fane. You guys talk a lot,
but for us, that's the first time we've heard from
him since he left the Seahawks. And I don't want
to say fired. It just I feel like he deserves
better than that, you know, But he was fired but
moved on, all right, whatever. But hearing him talk about
(27:00):
what he's doing now and going to Kuwait and teaching
at USC, do you feel good about his prospects, because
I know you were kind of worried about him for
a while there.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
No, he sounds good, but you know it's I hope
that he is genuinely good, you know, But I also
know because what I did and when I left, like
you try to distract yourself with a whole bunch of
different stuff, right, And I listen.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Pete is he is.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
He's a grown man. He has much more wisdom than
I have. And so you know, if he says he's good,
I trust it he's good. But you know, somebody who
cares about him and who has been through that process
and who has also seen other people go through that process,
not necessarily in a healthy way or something to worry
about him.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, Well, I was asking you off the air that
one thing I wanted to get to that. We just
it just didn't make sense. Is how do you deal
with being told that you can't coach in the NFL?
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Right?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
How do you think he dealt with that?
Speaker 5 (27:52):
I mean, I think he handled it, at least from
the outside looking in. I think he handled it really well.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
No question.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
But I talked to him. I know what it is.
Of course he's competitive.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
It's hard for him.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Of course it.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Would be hard for anybody, right, you know, he's human,
just like everybody else.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
When you were done playing, did you ever wonder did
I make a mistake? Do I want to get back
in this? Or did you become totally crystal clear? I
know my next step and it's leaving football behind.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Yeah, listen, that off season it became crystal clear to
me that it was time to go. So I no,
I didn't have when I was done, all of my
energy shifted towards Okay, listen, I know this is going
to be hard and there's a lot of pitfalls that
I need to avoid. So how do I avoid them
and not make this worse? So that was what my
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primary focus was on.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Gotcha for people that did not hear it earlier. Everything
you're doing, we'll talk about that coming up in the
six pm hour, obviously, but the question I asked Pete
about sitting down on a Sunday morning and watching the
Seahawks at ten o'clock. And by the way, I think
Pete took a shot at me for the idea of
being a sports bar at ten am.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Lots of people are in sports bars at ten a.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I'm having breakfast, for God's sake, We're not necessarily getting
snocker at ten o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Do you wake up on a Sunday and watch the
Seahawks at home with the kids? How do you do that?
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Well, I'm up anyways, and my wife she actually likes
so she likes to have the game on and she'll say,
it's in the background, right right right.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I can't have it on.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Because if I have it on i'm watching it, my
body just reacts to it, just like it would any
other time I'm playing football. So you know, it's challenging
for me in that regard. Yep, However, I am, you know,
five years removed.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I did.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I was observant this year around you know, camp time
came around. I could feel my body reacting to just
the time the season, right, I am interested to see
how my body responds to me watching it this year.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
YEA, so well, I'll let you know.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
All right, keep us up to day.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
We'll come back at six and talk more about what
you're doing off the field. Now, I want to hear
about that dive into that Mariners tonight. We got to
hit that as well. Anders next on ninety three three
kJ R FM.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Live from the rn R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now
back to Softie and Dick on your Home for the
Huskies and the Craken Sports Radio ninety three kJ r FM.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
All right more with Doug Baldvin coming up at the
six pm. Are we have a pair of tickets for
the Seahawk Brown game on Saturday we're gonna give away.
Anthony bay Rudy, the Venu King will join us at
six forty five and he's bearing gifts on the air.
Oh well, oh, he's going to give you a proclamation
for the Seahawks season. Your job then to email me
with the answer first one that I get to my
(30:38):
email inbox at SOFTYKJR at gmail dot com. We'll win
the tickets for the Seahawk Brown game on Saturday night.
And then thank god, about ten pm, the preseason will
be over. Oh my god, you have no idea, not
a fan at all. There are not many things in
sports that I dislike more than NFL preseason football.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
As a matter of.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Fact, did you name any well, if you put, if
you put on the spectrum on one end is things
I hate, and the other end is things I love
in sports. On the end of things I love, NFL
regular season football is right there touching the wall. On
the other end is preseason football. I mean, you could
not have two things more opposite of each other that
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involved the same league than the NFL regular season and
the NFL preseason. So I'm looking forward to this nonsense,
the charade anders being over on Saturday night. We can
start talking real football and talking about real players that
actually will play in real game.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Am I a bad NFL fan slash bad Seahawks saying
for not watching a single second time of any preseason
game they've had so far, not.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
At all the Tennessee Titan game.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Could not have given a damn about anything happening in
the game that day at all. Nothing, zip, zero, totally
with you, and then I'll be completely pulling a one
to eighty by the time the Denver game comes around.
So Mariners tonight, Chuck Powell was on yesterday says, if
they dropped the Dodger series, Scott's service has to go.
So I guess Chuck's mind, Scott's service is literally managing
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for his job tonight against the LA Dodgers. I don't
think that's what's happening in reality with John Stanton, but
I guess the question is this, Go back and think
about how pissed off you were after the sweep of
the Tigers. They've since lost three out of four. All Right,
they get beaten in three games by a team of
the Pittsburgh Pirates that is going literally nowhere. Now they
(32:25):
manage zero offense against the LA Dodgers yesterday. They're having
the same problems they've been having the entire season, wasting
yet another quality start by Brian wu who makes, let's
face it, one mistake and pays for it. In the
three games they've lost, They've scored five total runs against
the Pirates in LA. Think about how pissed off you
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were Friday morning, and now tell me where you are
now after the last four games, Because whatever your emotions
were on Friday, they've got to be amplified after what
you saw in the last four games.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Again, I'm gonna ask you, am I a bad fan
for wishing they almost crash and burn at this point?
Because it's getting to the point where if Ian talked
about this on his show, and Dick talked about it
yesterday too, where you almost get worried that if they
kind of rally a little bit and get close to
the end of the season, right then they like missed
the playoffs by one or two games, that they run
it back with this same group, which I think they
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cannot do for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
No, I totally agree with you. I mean, like, I
think Chuck was right on when he said the other
day they could make the World Series and they have
to blow up the offense. Yeah, but that's if Chuck
is making the decison exactly right. But I don't know
how anybody that has any authority at all with the
Mariners could not agree with that, because even if this
team finds a way to sneak into the playoffs, let's
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say the Astros fall part two, Yeah, and the Mariners
win eighty six and they win the West and they
make the playoffs, and then just over a magical month,
they have a Joe Flacco type raven run right. He
earned a giant contract based on four games they go banana.
Do you really trust that group to come back and
do it for six months the next year? Of course
you don't, because winning the division with eighty five or
(34:07):
eighty six games is not gonna happen very often, and
it might happen this year. So I think, if you're
stanton to Poto, if he survives this, you're looking for
a new first baseman, a new DH, a new right fielder.
Maybe ro Bless is the guy, but ro Bless has
kind of caught off a little bit. Maybe third base
you're looking for. I mean, you've got.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Multiple holes in this offense.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And that's what really gets me is that you would
think that in this time in the franchise's history, when
the Mariner rotation is so damn good, they would have
by now figured out a way to at least supplement
that with an average offense.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
And they haven't even done that.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
They can't even be average, They can't even build an
average offense. So after nine years of this, what makes
us think anything will be different the following season? It won't.
This is who they are. This is who Jerry Depoto is,
It's who Scott's Services. They refused to be anything different.
They refuse to change their philosophies on how to move
runners over and manufacture runs. And you know what, I
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think Scott's Service and I actually appreciate him saying this
because I think he kind of made it clear to
everybody that there are no more excuses heading into year nine,
when he came out and said, this is the most
talented team we've had since I've been here. Okay, fine,
so it's squarely now on you. It is squarely now
on you to get the most out of these guys
because you just told us you have all the pieces
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you need. So him putting that out there made it
pretty clear that there are no more excuses. And if
Scott's Service were a fan, he'd be thinking exactly just
like us.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
My question for you is if the Marriage don't make
the playoffs this year, make it, if they you know,
just missed by one gamer, if they completely fall apart, right,
what do you think is the most likely scenario.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Most likely scenario I think is that Scott's gone, but
Jerry comes back. Okay, that I think is the most
likely scenario, because I still think that Jerry Depoto is
offering some pretty cool stuff to this organization with the
way the farm system has been rebuilt and the rotation.
I honestly don't really know any more what Scott's Service
is bringing that nobody else can bring, right, And look,
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I mean, you missed the division by a game, you
likely do it by winning eighty four eighty five games.
The Mariners in two thousand and two and two thousand
and three won ninety three games and missed the playoffs.
It's different to miss the playoffs with ninety three versus
eighty four eighty five. You could miss the playoffs and
win ninety seven games for God's sakes, right, I mean,
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the A's finished in second place in two thousand and one.
They won one hundred games and they finished in second place.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
So forget, what kind of team are you?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And if you're a team that's dead last in Major
League Baseball in batting average, that's not sustainable to continue
to run that back every single year. So I mean, honestly,
what I would probably do if I were in charge
is I would clean house and fire everybody and get
rid of both of them. My gut tells me that
Stanton's going to keep one and not the other.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
I just wonder how much actually changes if it's Scott
Service gone. But Jerry stays, yeah, I just don't know
if it's going to be any different.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, it might not be different at all. I'm just
telling you what I think he'll do. You ask me
what I think reality is. I think reality is is
that I think John Stanton looks at this rotation. I
think he's infatuated by the idea of having a phenomenal
pitching staff that can pitch and thrive at T Mobile Park,
and they're very good. Nothing at T Mobile Park and
for now cost nothing. But that's gonna change. I mean,
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Logan Gilbert's going to arbitration, is he not? Yeah, George
Kirby is a year away from arbitration. Bryce Miller, I
think is a year away from arbitration.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
You still don't really have to pay them until they're
free agents.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Right, we're not talking. You have thirty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
But the way arbitration works, and you know this, the
agent puts in a number, the team puts in a number,
and the arbiter picks one dependent.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
It's just one of the other, right, So that payroll
is gonna go up next year, and then you will
garber money and you owe handing your money. So can
we really expect them to add to this thing over
the offseason with free agents and acquiring big time contracts.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
I don't think so at all.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I mean, that's what's so infuriating about this year.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
Well not unless they do what they did last year
and sell good pieces off to get rid of payroll.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
But that's the infuriating punt that they have to do,
is that.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
And this goes back to before you're born, with Jesus
Montero and Michael Panada and I was born.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Neither one of those worked out. I get that.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
But the philosophy if we have no choice but to
get rid of great pitching to get the hitting we're
looking for because we can't do it ourselves insane.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
And that's what you get when you add to your
team via trade instead of via a free agency where
you can just pay someone right, instead of having to
get rid of something to get something.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Well, look, you got four guys in a rotation that
are making seven million dollars combined. If there's ever a
year to strike and go for it and put aside
whatever business concerns you've got about your wallet. It's right now,
it would have been the last three years this honest. Yes,
this was a gift from the gods. Anders, I mean
this year even more so because now they lead the
league in RS. Yes, but you're right, the three years
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of this. This year was the year seven million dollars
for the back eighty percent of your rotation. And you
can't even take that gift from the baseball gods, And
I mean, just the hell with it, man. Doug Baldwin
rejoins US next on ninety three three KJRFM
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