August 22, 2024 • 39 mins
Servais is fired, and Dan Wilson is reportedly replacing him, is this season done already, or did they make this move too late? Former Mariner Jeff Nelson joins the show from New York to talk about the Mariners manegerial change and what Dan Wilson brings to the table for the rest of this year. More reaction to the firing of Scott Servais and hiring of Dan Wilson, is he going to be the manager next year?
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news coming down today, multiple reports. Scott's service after thirteen
and twenty two games is out as the manager of
the Mariners. Dan Wilson reported to be taking over as
skipper with Edgar Mark. He is on the staff for
the final thirty four games. Scott Servis goes six hundred
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forty in the morning on the twenty second of August
twenty twenty four, because that's the day of the hammer
fell on Scott's Service Mariner skipper out after barely over
what I say, thirteen hundred games as the Mariner manager.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Scott Service fire today.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
According to multiple reports, including i OWE pal Ken Rosenthal,
who was the first to report that the boat tie
of the hole spiel.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
He says, Scottie service is out.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
He says Dan Wilson's coming in, Adam Jude says, Edgar
Martinez is joining him, and.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
This does not feel, though, for a lot of reasons,
like a celebratory day, right. I mean, for example, when
the Seahawks fired Tim Ruskell, I almost threw a parade
outside the studio the day they whacked Tim Ruskell, when
they fired Bill Bavasi, the Mariners did, I felt like
that was a really good day, sure for Mariner baseball.
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When Tyrone Willingham got bombed by Scott Woodward, that felt
like a really good day. This just kind of feels
like the start of a lot of changes down there
at T Mobile Park.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
I think it does. I think it was an absolutely
necessary move. I think the move was made probably too
late to save this season. I think it was a
very predictable answer to go with Dan Wilson and Edgar Martinez.
I mean, if you would ask Mariner fans, if you'd
ask the most jaded Mariner fans yesterday and say, okay,
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jaded Mariner fans, Scott Servis is gonna be fired in
the next twenty four hours, they go all right, cool, okay,
who are they gonna hire their replacement? And they would
jokingly say, well, probably Dan Wilson. And just for a kicker,
we're gonna throw Edgar Martinez in as an assistant coach,
and bing, bing bing, you would have been right, yeah,
who would you have hired?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Then? Oh?
Speaker 5 (05:30):
I mean, I'm fine with it because it's a throwaway
to me. It's a throwaway for the rest of the season.
To me, the Mariners are saying this, We're gonna give
it a go. I mean, is there a one in
fifty chance that Dan Wilson has some magic that's able
to turn this team around and they're able to go,
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you know, twenty and ten down the stretch and make
the playoffs and win a playoffsers, sure, there's a one
in fifty magic, Yeah, that that happens, But there's a
four fifty probability that he's gone at the end of
this season. What was a six week run? What were
the odds of Scott's service?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Has sayed on his manager, really, hey, don't they don't
improve with the new guy in the clubhouse, because all
we've been doing for the last two weeks is talking
about a new voice. That's why you want to fire
the guy. I mean, I wanted to fire Scott's service,
not because I don't like Scott's service. I mean I
don't like him as a manager, but as a guy,
I'm fine with him. I know you've had your issues,
and I get it. He's abrasive, he's a smart ass,
all that stuff. But to me, I kind of like that.
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You know that, But whatever the point is, we wanted
to make a move with the skipper because we thought,
if you may, and maybe what you said Dick at
the top, I agree with. If you would have done
this a month ago or two months ago, and giving
yourself eighty games or seventy games to get a new
guy in there to turn this thing around, maybe you
would have had a chance to do it. But you
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got thirty four games. They probably waited too long, honestly,
to do this. To be honest with you, it's hard
to fire a guy when you're in first place, right
or right behind for place. I mean up until what
ten days ago, two weeks ago, they were right there.
So unless they foresaw this coming, which I don't think
they did, you know, obviously they just kind of delayed
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this a little bit too long. But guys, I just
think this. I think overall, this move had to be made.
You don't make this move and you lose whatever shred
of credibility you had left with your fan base, which
is not a lot. And I said this last night
on Twitter. By the way, this is the amazing thing.
Think about our reaction. Think about where you were when
cal Rawley hit that home run against the A's two
years ago. I was on the air doing a halftime
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show that I know for a fact nobody was listening to,
not even my mom.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Andrews was there. I call my mom, Hey mom, did
you hear that? Now? I was watching the games. He
had no idea what the hell was going on. And
here we are two years later.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
They've thrown away every ounce of equity they built up
with that playoff run two years ago.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
This is not the way things were supposed to be
right after that cal Rawley home run. You're supposed to
play the Astros, play him tough, and then come back
and take that next day like the Seahawks did in
twenty thirteen. And it never happened that way. So that's
number one. It's just a downer that we're here. But
Number two call me crazy, and maybe I am a lunatic.
I still believe that these guys with the right voice
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in that clubhouse can find a way to start playing
better baseball.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Will it be enough to win the division? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I mean you're talking about Houston has to kind of,
you know, play below five hundred. If Houston plays five
hundred ball Dick, the Mariners have to go like twenty
four and twelve whatever it is, the rest of the
way right to pass. So it's it's a difficult proposition,
no question about it. But I think this about Dan Wilson.
I understand why people feel the way they do. I
have been just as tired of the ninety five nostalgia
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as anybody on this radio station for years.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
There's more of it for you, brother.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
For years now, I've been sick of it. I've been
so tired of it. And the reason why I'm tired
of it is because there's really nothing else to replace it.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
It reminds me.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
That for thirty years almost now, all we've had to
do is just go back to that same well, over
and over and over again. And so I get why
people are tired of it. But I would just ask
you this, who did we really think was gonna take
this job. There's no outside manager that's walking in for
this job for five weeks unless he gets signed for
next year and the year beyond. Mark de Rosa, Dusty Baker,
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Joe Madden, whoever. Those guys aren't taking the gig unless
you get him guaranteed deal.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
So what you're saying then there was no contingency I
don't think there was no contingency plan, because.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Can you tingency plan what to go out and hire
a guy right now and make him your next manager.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
That's not how this works.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Who gets fired in August and the team hires a
guy unless they promote from within and they hire a
guy from the outside and say here's a four year contral.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
This is there's a process.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Which is exactly why I called it a throwaway move.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
But hang on a second though. Hang on a second though.
So then you're saying anything would have been a throway move.
Anything in reality with.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
An okay save anything, save getting those getting a big
time manager with playoff experience.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Anything short of that I was never gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
It was never gonna happen. Until the offseason.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And here's the other part about it, guys, do we
all agree that Jerry to Poto's job is on the line.
Of course, if Jerry gets fired, the new GM is
gonna want to hire his guy. That's why you can't
hire a manager right now, because John Stanton knows he
might be six weeks away from whacking Jerry and hiring
a new president of Baseball Operations. And whoever that guy
is is going to want to hire his own dude.
So if you wanted a new voice, which I totally
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agree with, I think firing Scott is the right call.
But if you wanted a new voice, guys, the options
were limited on who that person was gonna be. Again,
twofold Number one, somebody from the outside is not going
to fly over here, take this job for five weeks
with a terrible offense, have a tryout, and then not
have any assurances they're not coming back next year and
the year beyond. And then number two, if Stanton fires Jerry,
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the new guy is gonna want his own dude. So
if we did, all of us we're talking about firing Scott.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
We all wanted this, right, all of us wanted this.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You wanted this, Dick wanted this, I wanted this, All
of us kind of on the same page for the most.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Part, wanted this.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So if you want this, the options to replace him
in reality, if Jerry's job is also on the line,
are very limited. And look, I'll tell you this, I
get why people feel the way they do about the
ninety five thing.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
Totally agree. I get it.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
If you're John Stanton, if you're Chris Larson, if you're
Jerry Depot and you're sitting at a meeting last night,
you're saying, guys, if we do this, somebody's gonna bust
our balls for it. And they're getting their balls busted, right,
We're gonna have to deal with that aspect of this hire.
Dan Wilson, though, is no pushover. You may think he's
a pushover because of his personality.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
He's not.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
He might be the kind of guy that's respected enough
by Jerry de Poter to go into his office and say, look,
if I do this, we do it my way for
the final five weeks, we do things differently for the
final five weeks. You know who else loves this guy,
cal Rawley. You know why because cal Rally and Dan
Wilson have been talking offline about the same crap that
you and I complain about. Those guys are on the
same So now you're bringing in somebody who has the
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same concerns that you do, the same take that you do,
the same complaints that you do.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
And this feels like a team now.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It feels like twenty six guys and the manager, not
twenty six guys and a puppet for Jerry Depoto, which
I've always thought Scott's service was, so I like it.
I mean again, it may not work, and Dan maybe
out of here in a month and a half. He
made a dick for all I know. The guy doesn't
even want the job full time.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Right. I have no idea where Dan Wilson is at
in his life.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Right.
Speaker 8 (12:30):
We do have confirmation on the move from the organization
now as well as Jared to Hart is being let
go as well.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well, if you were gonna make sense, I mean to me,
it's proactive or reactive, and the Mariners once again have been.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
React totally agree.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
We've been talking about forever firing Scott's service. This hasn't
something this is something we talked about the last four days.
This is something we've talked about the last two months
firing Scott Service. I told you two months ago as
a paper Tiger first place team, this was never a
team that was built to be a champion, And this
was never a team that Scott Service ever elevated past.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
He never elevated this team.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
He's been the manager for three and twenty six days
and you've got one playoff series win in three thousand two.
It's that's the fun that A. That's a failure right there.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
And B.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Had you been proactive and fired Scott's Service after you
got swept by an awful LA team on July the
twenty fourth, or had you fired Scott's Service when you
looked absolutely horrendous against a give up Detroit Tiger team
two and a half weeks ago, then I'd be like,
you know what, you're only a game out of first
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you still have a chance to salvage this. And to me,
you don't have a chance to salvage this legitimately.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, I just think the the odds were low anyway.
I mean, we're just we're we're arguing about semantics here.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
Were they low when they were game out?
Speaker 6 (13:58):
They're low?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Now?
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I mean, oh, if you're saying that they waited too long.
I agree with that. I totally agree with that. But
this idea that they should have had a list and
hired a guy better than Dan Wilson, That's not how
this works. When when coaches get fired in the regular
season in the NFL, an interim guy gets the job
and they go through a process. I'm just telling you
how it works. I'm just telling you why half like
you're pissed off that they didn't do this earlier. Yes,
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and I have and give Dan a better opportunity, absolutely, Okay.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
And then I'm also telling you why half the people
on the text line are like Dan Wilson and Edgar Martin.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Let me ask you a question. You know me for
thirty years. Why do you have to explain that to me?
You don't think I know that? Again, there's been nobody
in this market that's more pissed off and agitated about
this ninety five nonsense than me. I totally get why
people are having that take. That's why I said when
they made the move last night this morning, they should
have looked at each other and said, people are gonna
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bust our balls. They're gonna bust our balls. And they
had to be okay with that because they have no credibility.
This franchise has no with the fan base. They have
no credibility, they have no trust, they have no equity whatsoever.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
It is a zero with the community.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
None.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
There's nothing they can do that doesn't come across as
massively skeptical. I totally agree with you, but I'm just
talking about trying to, you know, turn chicken crap into
chicken salad here potentially, you know, for the final five
weeks of the year, And can they play five hundred
ball and maybe give them a chance to be in
this thing?
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Can they go barely above five hundred?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Is Dan Wilson gonna be able to maybe change things
up a little bit with the way they do things? Well, Well,
Egar Martinez coming here for five weeks and not give
a damn because he's not gonna coach full time. Of course,
he's done. Edgar Martinez, don't care. He gonna come in
here and do what he wants for five and a
half weeks. So I think from that perspective, there's a
part of me and look, I mean, obviously nobody would
bet the Mariners to make the playoffs, all right, that's
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a stupid bet. It's a waste of money. We all
agree with that. But I think the odds after last
night's game of these guys rallying, they were dead dead
on arrivals, life less, soulless corpses of Major League baseball players.
Can Dan Wilson provide a heart beat? Maybe maybe maybe
he can't. Maybe Dan Wilson comes in with a giant
baseball ekg wakes him up.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
And that was my whole point, because all the Mariners
three weeks ago would if needed, was a heart beat.
But now they don't need just to hurt meat. They
need a miracle now what they've done in the last
three weeks.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
If you're saying they waited too long, I can't argue
that at all. You know, again, this is we We
talked about this after the Tiger series, which is a
week ago.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
My thoughts on service, I thought he deserves some praise.
In the regular season, when they were ten games up
with no offense whatsoever. I think the first couple of months,
you know, hey, look at this guy. He's out there,
he's busting ass. He's getting nothing from his offense, blah
blah blah. And then it all fell apart. I mean,
I can tell you one thing Dan Wilson won't do.
When cal Rowley complains about not getting a bat and
pissed off they missed the playoffs, Dan Wilson's not telling.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Cal Rally to watch his mouth. That's no question, like
a got service, did it well.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Dan Wilson's also not being disrespectful to the media when
they ask him questions.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Yeah, yeah, I mean right right.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Dan Wilson's on the nicest guys we've ever met. I
don't care about that at all, and that's fine. I
mean it's important to some people. It's not important to me.
I just want to win games. I think this is
a part of a process, giving this kid a tryout,
giving Danny a tryout, to see what he does, see
what he looks like. Is he a guy you want
to have on your staff in a year from now?
Is Jerry gonna hang around? And if Jerry hangs around,
does Dan hang around? If Jerry gets fired, does Dan
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stay If Jerry gets fired, does the new guy get
to bring in his own person? I just think the options, again,
guys were very very limited in what to do, and
maybe maybe the options would have been bigger if they
did it a month ago. But look he's out all right,
and the next guy who's back against the walls to
Poto for sure.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Because I mean, you just said it right there.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
If a month ago you go to let's say Jerry's
got his list. You always say athletic directors have their list, right,
Athletic directors have their list of their next coach, right,
and it's a living, breathing list. Well, if Jerry Depoto
truly had a list, right, what if he makes a
phone call a month from now, So let's just throw
out a name. Let's just say, right right, and he
throws out a phone call and said, Joe, I got
a first place baseball team for you.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
I want you to take to the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Okay, I mean that's not again, that's not how that works.
That that I mean, what do you mean?
Speaker 7 (18:12):
It does not how that works because it worked for
the Phillies two years ago.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Didn't they promote a guy from their Bobby Thompson was
on their bench.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
He was already there making a move the bench. He's
a broadcaster, but he's not he's not hooked up with
somebody else. I mean Joe Madden, first of af I'm
Joe Madden. I'm not taking this job unless I'm guaranteed,
like a four year deal, and I want that right now.
And John Stanton and Jerry may have names. They may
be names on other people's staffs. They may be bench
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coaches or pitching coaches.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
With somebody else. I have no idea where they are.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Pat Juhn's got a list. Jen Cohen always had a list.
You don't fire a guy that hires somebody else the
same year. You gotta wait until the season's over when
those guys become available. I mean, I'm maybe it's happened
somewhere where a free agent guy has walked in kept
the gig forever. But look, am I Do I think
that Jerry has a list to potential managers? He better
he's not doing his job. Do I think John's got
a list of potential presidents? He better or he's not
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doing his job. I mean, Katie Griggs left and took
the oriol job in the middle of the year because
the baseball business job came open and she took off.
I just think if you're talking about people that are
on other people's rosters, you gotta wait until the year's over,
So I don't mind it. I mean, we're talking about
a horrible situation here, We're talking about chicken crap and
chicken salad.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Is this the best they can do? I think it
might be for now.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Now Again, if it falls apart, who cares it falls apart,
Let Danny wear it, let Edgar wear it, and their
legacies won't be tainted whatsoever. Then you hire somebody else
over the offseason. But I think this, like I said
on Twitter today, Jerry's next. If this doesn't work, he's
out as well. And then John Stanton simply put his
gut ticket serious about winning a World Series title, stop
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making moves that affect your pocketbook, and start making moves
that impact the baseball team. When you're getting rid of
Tasca Hernandez and bringing in Mitch Hannig your because you
want to get rid of Robbie Ray's salary, and when
you're dumping Suarez to bring in Urieus because you want
to get rid of Suarez, a salary that's not helping
the baseball team, that's helping your bottom frickin line.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
That's got to stop.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
John Stanton's got a legacy on the line in this town,
as an owner and right now it's terrible. So let's
see what he does. Maybe he gets motivated. Now we're
gonna break. Stephen Suss coming up, Jeff Nelson's coming up next,
Brett Boone, Jared DeHart, mariner hitting coach, has also just
been whacked. Jerry Depoto is gonna have a zoom call
at three thirty today. We're gonna roll on that and
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Jeff Nelson is joining us from New York City with
us right now on the radio show Nelly. The Mariners
have fired Scott's service and they've named your former catcher
Dan Wilson as the new manager of the Mariners. What
do you make of the news coming out of the
two o six.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Man Absolutely is static for Dan Wilson. You know that
I catchers I think make the great the greatest managers anyway,
and I threw to him. I thought he was probably
the best catcher that I that I've ever pitched to,
and I knew that he would make a great great
manager is always at a time and if he wanted
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to do it. But I'm so happy that that Seattle
named him as a manager. I think he's going to
be outstanding. Hopefully it's just not an interm thing for
the next five weeks. Hopefully it's long term.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
But did they give him an opportunity to succeed?
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Jeff?
Speaker 5 (22:16):
I mean, if they would have done this three weeks
ago after a miserable series against the Angels or a
miserable series against Detroit, then you actually give Dan a shot.
I mean, does he have a legitimate shot in such
a short time with such a big hole to dig
out of?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Well, the offense is you know, when you have one
of the best pitching staffs in baseball and you have
one of the worst offensive than baseball, it's never going
to be a good mix.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Can he turn it around? I don't know. You know,
he's a very smart guy.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I guess it depends on who he surrounds him with
himself with you know, he isn't like they're going to
start making tons of changes with the coaching staff.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I wouldn't imagine.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Maybe next year, if they do name him the permanent manager,
maybe he goes out and find some of his ex
teammates or find some guys that he really wants around himself. Yeah,
and they're five games out of the West. They're seven
out of the Wild Cards. So the Wildcards forget about it.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
They know.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I don't think they have a shot with the way
the Houston's playing. I really don't know if they have
a shot with the West. But Dick, remember I think
we went on was it last year around this time
when I said, I don't know, it's going to be
really tough for the marriage to make the playoffs the
next thing they did, so they still have a shot.
It's always that different voice. Maybe Dan comes in and
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does something that maybe sparks sparks something in that clubhouse. Hey,
you have an ex player. I mean he's an ex
player and he's a very smart guy.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I'm so happy for him and hopefully the players take
to him. I don't care that he's never been a coach.
I don't care that he's never been a manager. I
think this guy's going to be the and do great there.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Well, Jeff Nelson's with us, and Jeff, I'm reading the
release that was sent out by the Mariners, and there's
going to be a zoo call with the POTO here
in a matter of seconds, and hope you get there.
Some clarification says Wilson's the twenty first manager in club history.
In eighteenth full time, they are not using the word
interim to describe Dan Wilson. Now, maybe that's just a mistake.
Maybe he is the interim guy and they'll reassess when
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the year's over. Would you be surprised if they just
hired him right now and gave him like a three
year contract and said you're the man for this year,
you're the man for next year and beyond.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
If he wants it, No, I wouldn't be surprised, and
I I would be surprised more if they just gave
it to him for the last next five weeks and say, okay, hey,
thanks a lot. You know, I would hope that he
would just take the job, say listen, I'm not going
to take it for five or six weeks.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I want it for a few more years, and I
want to be able.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I know analytics play a big part in this and
that's the way that the game is now. But hopefully
he goes and say, hey, I like to pick my
coaching staff, and maybe he goes out and pick some
next players and he surrounds himself from some really good
guys that players can relate to, and then you can
mix the analytics in with the with the current players
that like I mentioned that the players can relate to.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I hope it's a multi year deal. He deserves it.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
He's learned from one of the best managers that should
be a Hall of Famer, and lou Canela. He's played
for him for years in Seattle, also in Cincinnati, so
he's got a great track record. Every single person that's
ever played with Dan Wilson or pitch to him have
the utmost respect for him, and he's.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Great in the community.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I think this is an outstanding pick. I'm a little
surprised that it's taken this long for him to be
a manager.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I'm wondering.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
I'm trying to remember if you were ever part of
an ind season managerial change, were you, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
No, I never was, you know, I had most of
my career was with lou and Joe Tory, So you
weren't making changes?
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Yeah, you know you were, But so hypothetically, then take
a guess what do players feel when their managers get
whacked in the middle of the season. Is it excitement
like Okay, hey, we got a different voice, or is
it almost guilt like, oh man, I mean it's our
fault he got fired.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
I think it's both.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I think the reason one of one of the reasons
that they that the manager is the fall guy is
because the players aren't performing. You know, you look at
some of the players that the Seattle Mariners have, and
they have a really good team it's a shame that
they have, like I mentioned, the best pitching staff in
baseball and they have one of the worst offenses in baseball.
And when you have that combination, as a player, you
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got to say, hey, this is one of our this
is this is our problem. This is one of the
reasons why Service got fired. Now, there could be in
some internal things that you guys probably know a lot
more than I do as far as how he gets.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Along with the players, how he got along with the media.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
But to bring in a guy like Dan Wilson that
is much respected through the Seattle community as a player,
hopefully these guys take to it and they really go
up to him.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
And maybe relax.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I don't I don't know the atmosphere that Service had
in that clubhouse or as a coaching staff.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
All I think about.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Listen, you have Scott Brochus, who was an outstanding player
himself and was the third base coach.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
All of a sudden, he didn't want to come back. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Edgar Martinez is probably one of the best designated hitters,
one of the best right handed hitters in baseball. He
didn't want any part of it, and he just came
every once in a while, So when that happens, what's
going on? I mean, you're talking about great players that
played in Seattle that all of a sudden you want
to try to sweep them aside. So something's going on
and you probably know more than I do.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Well, what's going on is they can't hit. That's what's
going on. Well, and this offense is terrible. And look,
I don't think they're elite by any standards at all,
but Polanco, Garver, Railey, Julio, I mean, this team center,
they should be better. They should be better. They have
underperformed the entire year. I mean, could they have been
twentieth in baseball? Could they have been eighteenth in baseball?
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And if they are, they're probably in first place. I mean, god, Jeff,
you're not asking for a lot. So what is it
about this offense and these guys that when they come
here they just fall apart? And by the way, they're
winning it team Mobile Park, they have a much better
record at home.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
They can't even hit on the road, for God's sakes.
What's wrong with this offense?
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Right?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
And that's shocking to me because I look on our years,
and you know, our years, they didn't have a problem
hitting at say, well then it was safeg now Teamobile,
so they didn't have a problem. You know, you have
really quality players. You have Julio that Julio's has gotten
off to.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Bad starts the first couple of years.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I mean, this guy should be a thirty to thirty
five homer guy and he's not.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
You go and you make some really good changes. And
at the.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Deadline with the Rose Arena and he's had it down
the year with Campa Bay, all of a sudden he
comes to Seattle.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
I think it was a great pickup. Justin Turner. I
thought that was a great pickup.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I thought that's what you needed in that offense. And
Justin Turner's a winner. This guy's played on winning teams.
Rose Arenas played on winning teams. I thought this is
a big, huge asset. You look at Roadblas, I mean
they signed him to an extension. You know, he played
with Washington Is. He played on some winning teams there
with Nationals when they were winning. There's no reason why
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this team shouldn't be in first place. There's no reason
why they shouldn't be in a hunt for the wild
card or at least a playoff spot.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
And I think what is their percentage now? I think
he's dropped down to like twenty percent.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
To make the playoffs. It's like it's like fifteen percent. Yeah, yeah,
not even worth looking at, man, not even worth looking
at all. Right, Nelly, great stuff. I heard the kids
are in New York with you for the weekend. Enjoy
that and uh, we'll talk soon, man. When something else
breaks here, we'll call you. Have your phone on standby, buddy.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Okay, thanks, great talking to you guys, all.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Right, yeah, good stuff. Jeff Nelson had the same reaction.
I think that Boonie's gonna have We'll find out what
Boonie at five o'clock. I think most guys that play
with Dan are all just thrilled for him that he
got the.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
Game, because he's the best dude ever.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, but they see more than that. They see a
real leader. They see a guy that can lead people.
And I think that's what this franchise has been missing.
Is he the long term guy?
Speaker 6 (29:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
And we're still waiting for this press conference with the
Poter to start. They're running fifteen minutes late. Has even started, right.
It's because in the press release it says he's the
full time guy.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
I mean it doesn't say full eighteen full time.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
They use the word full time and nowhere right anders
in this press release, there's no because it's say interim nowhere.
Speaker 8 (30:14):
Saying for this season and moving forward as well.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Wow, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
Holy crap.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
We'll discuss that next.
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Speaker 6 (31:05):
All my boys and girls. A busy Thursday.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I was kind of hoping to have a quiet day,
but that's not gonna happen, Scott's service fired. Mayors confirming
Scott's service is out. He has been terminated by the Mariners.
Jared DeHart hitting coach fired, Dan Wilson hired. Reports of
Edgar Martinez has that been confirmed by the club Andrews Thegar.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
I haven't seen anything about that. I'll look right well.
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So the Jerry Depoto press conference that was supposed to
start at three point thirty apparently.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Has not begun yet.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Just turning it just started twenty one minutes late officially
on that. We're gonna turn that around for you. Get
that on the air as soon as we can, because
God forbid, people.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Want to hear this live and we can't hear it
on the air.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I'm sure Roots Sports is showing this live and not
like cooking with some minor leaguer in his parents house
in North Carolina. Nobody would want to watch that. The
same clowns that run the PAC twelve network run Root Sport.
It's unbelievable. I mean, guys, you want to be in TV,
then be in TV, run a TV station, in a network,
like a network, not like a propaganda arm for your
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baseball team.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
It drives me freaking nuts. But there's a.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Press release that came out and we're waiting for some clarification. Andrews,
if you hear anything, let us know, okay, that Dan
Wilson has been hired as the twenty first manager in
club history. Scott Service out in the eighteenth full time
full time? So did they just hand Dan Wilson the
keys permanently?
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Well?
Speaker 5 (33:32):
When Jared Translato, when Jared Depoto uses the term for
the next six weeks and going forward, I don't know
how you could interpret that anything other than he is.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
Going to be the manager next season?
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Right?
Speaker 7 (33:47):
And that stuns me.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
I mean, like you told me at the end of
last segment, the only thing I could get out of
my mouth was, holy crapt I mean, you are handing
the keys over to a competitive baseball team.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
Now we can question how competitive they.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Are, but you're handing foundation to a competitive team to
a guy that has never managed at any level in
his lifetime other than what he do the Rainiers one
or two days or something like that, and the future last.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Year, and I mean.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
This is this is the long term answer. And I'm
not saying Dan Wilson is gonna be a failure.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Yeah you could, you could be great. Who knows.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
The only time you've had any experience winning long term
in this franchise is when you had an established World
Series champion manager who didn't give a crap about what
the GM said, didn't give a crap about what the
owner said. He did it his way, and his way
work well.
Speaker 7 (34:44):
And every other year you have had somebody other than that.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
They've hired other guys that have had jobs before, and
it hasn't worked out. I mean really, in the end,
the rotten apples the ownership. I mean, that's where things
are rotten. To the core is the people that own
this baseball team and run this baseball team. That's number one,
number two. Look, I mean it's possible, like you said
that Dan Wilson has greatness in him, right, and they've
identified greatness like Todd Lawickie identified Pete Carroll, a two
time loser in the NFL, and he said, nope, he's ready.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
This is and he was dead on right.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
Pete won a national champ.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I get that.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
But if if right, but not, But that's totally different
than the NFL. You know that there's only two guys
that have done that, and it's Jimmy Johnson and him.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Don't he.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I got it, I got it. Run a base but
you you can run. I think baseball is different than
other sports out there. I think it really is. I
think if you have a great relationship, if you see
things differently, if you can connect with people, which I
think Scott sometimes had a hard time doing. I'm not
saying this is the right or wrong move. I totally
get your concerns, trust me. My point is this, if
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they've just hired Dan Wilson full time without moving forward, okay.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
Well, I think that's a mistake. I think it's a mistake.
I think it's a.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Mistake for a couple of reasons. It's not fair to
the fan base, it's not fair to the franchise.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
Why would you do it now?
Speaker 6 (35:59):
I think it's not to him. It's not fair to
Dan Wilson.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I mean, don't you owe it to Dan Wilson to
let him prove it, to let him kind of go
through the process and go through the interview process and
see what else is out there. Talk to Dusty Baker,
talk to DeRosa, talk to Joe Madden, talk to whoever.
And if you come back to it, Dick and you
still want Dan as your guy, them great, whatever.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Right, But I think this is a mistake.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I think this is an absolute another just dropping of
the ball by the Mariners. Because if you really want
Dan Wilson to be your full time manager next year,
there's no rush to that.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
You can give him the job right now for five
six weeks, observe them whatever until Dan. Hey, if things
go well and Dan wink wink, you know they're gonna
go well, right, we'll give you the gig. But to
keep up appearances, we need to let our fan base
know that we're going through an exhaustive process to find
the next leader of this baseball team, and you haven't
done that. Look again, he may turn out to be awesome,
(36:57):
and I'm actually more excited about him than other people are.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
But I also get your point entirely. This is another example.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
It is unbelievable to me anybody who runs a business
anywhere PR.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
They are horrible at the PR game.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
They constantly say and do the wrong thing, and they've
done it again by giving Dan Wilson the full time job.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
This is a huge mistake, and.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
All you're doing is pissing people off and creating drama
and skepticism where there's no even room for it or
need for it.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
This is unnecessary. I just agree with you.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
The other franchises in this city go do business right.
The Seattle Seahawks they go through an exhaustive process and
hire Mike Holmgren. They go through an exhaustive process and
hire Pete Carroll. They go through an exhaustive process and
hire what he was called the greatest defensive mind on
planet Earth in Mike McDonald. The Washington Huskies go through
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a nationwide search and find Klin de Boor because they're like,
of everybody else we could get, he's the right guy.
And damn it, he was the right guy. And then
they went through a nationwide search and found Jed Fish.
And they went through a nationwide search and found Pat Chunye.
And the Mariners just say, not only are we gonna
give Dan Wilson the job for now, We're gonna We're
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not gonna go through an exhaustive nationwide search. We're gonna
hire him for good right here, and now I just
don't understand.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Well, that's why you gotta get somebody else to buy
this baseball team. John Stanton made this move. John Stanton
approves of this. John Stanton is the leader. Chris Larsen's
the leader. They made these moves. This is the wrong
message to send the fan base. And it's unfair to
Dan to put him in this position. Yes, because now
people all of a sudden are they're already pissed before
the guy even manages a game, that's right. I mean,
he's had the job for like three hours, and people
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are like, what the hell. It's totally unfair to Dan,
and it's Dan is gonna be Jerry's yes, ma'am.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
Well we'll see now if Jerry gets fired at the
end of the year.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Okay, but does this look like Jerry's gonna get fired
at the end of the year when he is allowed
to hire a manager for long term?
Speaker 6 (39:03):
Yeah? Uh, all right, let's get a break.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Uh, Mike Holmgren, what do you guys want to do?
Andrews Uh, I know Jerry's talking right now. You want
to push Mike back. You want to have Mike on
next for a few minutes chatting about this.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
Let's uh yeah, well.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
Why don't we bring him on real quick? So I
don't know if the Zoom conference is going to end
by that time, So let's get Mike on.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
The year next.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
He was friends with Scott Servis, he was tight with Scott.
I just think getting Mike's thoughts on the process right
and how the Mariners have done it here with this process,
and then hopefully around four to twenty we'll hear a
little bit from Jerry to Poto. Stephen sus Is gonna
pop on at four to thirty, Brett Boon at five.
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news coming down today, multiple reports. Scott's service after thirteen
and twenty two games is out as the manager of
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skipper with Edgar Mark. He is on the staff for
the final thirty four games. Scott Servis goes six hundred
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Francisco for getting swept by the Dodgers. Five back in
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what I say, thirteen hundred games as the Mariner manager.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Scott Service fire today.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
According to multiple reports, including i OWE pal Ken Rosenthal,
who was the first to report that the boat tie
of the hole spiel.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
He says, Scottie service is out.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
He says Dan Wilson's coming in, Adam Jude says, Edgar
Martinez is joining him, and.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
This does not feel, though, for a lot of reasons,
like a celebratory day, right. I mean, for example, when
the Seahawks fired Tim Ruskell, I almost threw a parade
outside the studio the day they whacked Tim Ruskell, when
they fired Bill Bavasi, the Mariners did, I felt like
that was a really good day, sure for Mariner baseball.
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When Tyrone Willingham got bombed by Scott Woodward, that felt
like a really good day. This just kind of feels
like the start of a lot of changes down there
at T Mobile Park.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
I think it does. I think it was an absolutely
necessary move. I think the move was made probably too
late to save this season. I think it was a
very predictable answer to go with Dan Wilson and Edgar Martinez.
I mean, if you would ask Mariner fans, if you'd
ask the most jaded Mariner fans yesterday and say, okay,
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jaded Mariner fans, Scott Servis is gonna be fired in
the next twenty four hours, they go all right, cool, okay,
who are they gonna hire their replacement? And they would
jokingly say, well, probably Dan Wilson. And just for a kicker,
we're gonna throw Edgar Martinez in as an assistant coach,
and bing, bing bing, you would have been right, yeah,
who would you have hired?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Then? Oh?
Speaker 5 (05:30):
I mean, I'm fine with it because it's a throwaway
to me. It's a throwaway for the rest of the season.
To me, the Mariners are saying this, We're gonna give
it a go. I mean, is there a one in
fifty chance that Dan Wilson has some magic that's able
to turn this team around and they're able to go,
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you know, twenty and ten down the stretch and make
the playoffs and win a playoffsers, sure, there's a one
in fifty magic, Yeah, that that happens, But there's a
four fifty probability that he's gone at the end of
this season. What was a six week run? What were
the odds of Scott's service?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Has sayed on his manager, really, hey, don't they don't
improve with the new guy in the clubhouse, because all
we've been doing for the last two weeks is talking
about a new voice. That's why you want to fire
the guy. I mean, I wanted to fire Scott's service,
not because I don't like Scott's service. I mean I
don't like him as a manager, but as a guy,
I'm fine with him. I know you've had your issues,
and I get it. He's abrasive, he's a smart ass,
all that stuff. But to me, I kind of like that.
(06:29):
You know that, But whatever the point is, we wanted
to make a move with the skipper because we thought,
if you may, and maybe what you said Dick at
the top, I agree with. If you would have done
this a month ago or two months ago, and giving
yourself eighty games or seventy games to get a new
guy in there to turn this thing around, maybe you
would have had a chance to do it. But you
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got thirty four games. They probably waited too long, honestly,
to do this. To be honest with you, it's hard
to fire a guy when you're in first place, right
or right behind for place. I mean up until what
ten days ago, two weeks ago, they were right there.
So unless they foresaw this coming, which I don't think
they did, you know, obviously they just kind of delayed
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this a little bit too long. But guys, I just
think this. I think overall, this move had to be made.
You don't make this move and you lose whatever shred
of credibility you had left with your fan base, which
is not a lot. And I said this last night
on Twitter. By the way, this is the amazing thing.
Think about our reaction. Think about where you were when
cal Rawley hit that home run against the A's two
years ago. I was on the air doing a halftime
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show that I know for a fact nobody was listening to,
not even my mom.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Andrews was there. I call my mom, Hey mom, did
you hear that? Now? I was watching the games. He
had no idea what the hell was going on. And
here we are two years later.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
They've thrown away every ounce of equity they built up
with that playoff run two years ago.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
This is not the way things were supposed to be
right after that cal Rawley home run. You're supposed to
play the Astros, play him tough, and then come back
and take that next day like the Seahawks did in
twenty thirteen. And it never happened that way. So that's
number one. It's just a downer that we're here. But
Number two call me crazy, and maybe I am a lunatic.
I still believe that these guys with the right voice
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in that clubhouse can find a way to start playing
better baseball.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Will it be enough to win the division? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I mean you're talking about Houston has to kind of,
you know, play below five hundred. If Houston plays five
hundred ball Dick, the Mariners have to go like twenty
four and twelve whatever it is, the rest of the
way right to pass. So it's it's a difficult proposition,
no question about it. But I think this about Dan Wilson.
I understand why people feel the way they do. I
have been just as tired of the ninety five nostalgia
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as anybody on this radio station for years.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
There's more of it for you, brother.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
For years now, I've been sick of it. I've been
so tired of it. And the reason why I'm tired
of it is because there's really nothing else to replace it.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
It reminds me.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
That for thirty years almost now, all we've had to
do is just go back to that same well, over
and over and over again. And so I get why
people are tired of it. But I would just ask
you this, who did we really think was gonna take
this job. There's no outside manager that's walking in for
this job for five weeks unless he gets signed for
next year and the year beyond. Mark de Rosa, Dusty Baker,
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Joe Madden, whoever. Those guys aren't taking the gig unless
you get him guaranteed deal.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
So what you're saying then there was no contingency I
don't think there was no contingency plan, because.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Can you tingency plan what to go out and hire
a guy right now and make him your next manager.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
That's not how this works.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Who gets fired in August and the team hires a
guy unless they promote from within and they hire a
guy from the outside and say here's a four year contral.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
This is there's a process.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Which is exactly why I called it a throwaway move.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
But hang on a second though. Hang on a second though.
So then you're saying anything would have been a throway move.
Anything in reality with.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
An okay save anything, save getting those getting a big
time manager with playoff experience.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Anything short of that I was never gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
It was never gonna happen. Until the offseason.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And here's the other part about it, guys, do we
all agree that Jerry to Poto's job is on the line.
Of course, if Jerry gets fired, the new GM is
gonna want to hire his guy. That's why you can't
hire a manager right now, because John Stanton knows he
might be six weeks away from whacking Jerry and hiring
a new president of Baseball Operations. And whoever that guy
is is going to want to hire his own dude.
So if you wanted a new voice, which I totally
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agree with, I think firing Scott is the right call.
But if you wanted a new voice, guys, the options
were limited on who that person was gonna be. Again,
twofold Number one, somebody from the outside is not going
to fly over here, take this job for five weeks
with a terrible offense, have a tryout, and then not
have any assurances they're not coming back next year and
the year beyond. And then number two, if Stanton fires Jerry,
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the new guy is gonna want his own dude. So
if we did, all of us we're talking about firing Scott.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
We all wanted this, right, all of us wanted this.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You wanted this, Dick wanted this, I wanted this, All
of us kind of on the same page for the most.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Part, wanted this.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So if you want this, the options to replace him
in reality, if Jerry's job is also on the line,
are very limited. And look, I'll tell you this, I
get why people feel the way they do about the
ninety five thing.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
Totally agree. I get it.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
If you're John Stanton, if you're Chris Larson, if you're
Jerry Depot and you're sitting at a meeting last night,
you're saying, guys, if we do this, somebody's gonna bust
our balls for it. And they're getting their balls busted, right,
We're gonna have to deal with that aspect of this hire.
Dan Wilson, though, is no pushover. You may think he's
a pushover because of his personality.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
He's not.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
He might be the kind of guy that's respected enough
by Jerry de Poter to go into his office and say, look,
if I do this, we do it my way for
the final five weeks, we do things differently for the
final five weeks. You know who else loves this guy,
cal Rawley. You know why because cal Rally and Dan
Wilson have been talking offline about the same crap that
you and I complain about. Those guys are on the
same So now you're bringing in somebody who has the
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same concerns that you do, the same take that you do,
the same complaints that you do.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
And this feels like a team now.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It feels like twenty six guys and the manager, not
twenty six guys and a puppet for Jerry Depoto, which
I've always thought Scott's service was, so I like it.
I mean again, it may not work, and Dan maybe
out of here in a month and a half. He
made a dick for all I know. The guy doesn't
even want the job full time.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Right. I have no idea where Dan Wilson is at
in his life.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Right.
Speaker 8 (12:30):
We do have confirmation on the move from the organization
now as well as Jared to Hart is being let
go as well.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well, if you were gonna make sense, I mean to me,
it's proactive or reactive, and the Mariners once again have been.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
React totally agree.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
We've been talking about forever firing Scott's service. This hasn't
something this is something we talked about the last four days.
This is something we've talked about the last two months
firing Scott Service. I told you two months ago as
a paper Tiger first place team, this was never a
team that was built to be a champion, And this
was never a team that Scott Service ever elevated past.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
He never elevated this team.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
He's been the manager for three and twenty six days
and you've got one playoff series win in three thousand two.
It's that's the fun that A. That's a failure right there.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
And B.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Had you been proactive and fired Scott's Service after you
got swept by an awful LA team on July the
twenty fourth, or had you fired Scott's Service when you
looked absolutely horrendous against a give up Detroit Tiger team
two and a half weeks ago, then I'd be like,
you know what, you're only a game out of first
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you still have a chance to salvage this. And to me,
you don't have a chance to salvage this legitimately.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, I just think the the odds were low anyway.
I mean, we're just we're we're arguing about semantics here.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
Were they low when they were game out?
Speaker 6 (13:58):
They're low?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Now?
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I mean, oh, if you're saying that they waited too long.
I agree with that. I totally agree with that. But
this idea that they should have had a list and
hired a guy better than Dan Wilson, That's not how
this works. When when coaches get fired in the regular
season in the NFL, an interim guy gets the job
and they go through a process. I'm just telling you
how it works. I'm just telling you why half like
you're pissed off that they didn't do this earlier. Yes,
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and I have and give Dan a better opportunity, absolutely, Okay.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
And then I'm also telling you why half the people
on the text line are like Dan Wilson and Edgar Martin.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Let me ask you a question. You know me for
thirty years. Why do you have to explain that to me?
You don't think I know that? Again, there's been nobody
in this market that's more pissed off and agitated about
this ninety five nonsense than me. I totally get why
people are having that take. That's why I said when
they made the move last night this morning, they should
have looked at each other and said, people are gonna
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bust our balls. They're gonna bust our balls. And they
had to be okay with that because they have no credibility.
This franchise has no with the fan base. They have
no credibility, they have no trust, they have no equity whatsoever.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
It is a zero with the community.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
None.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
There's nothing they can do that doesn't come across as
massively skeptical. I totally agree with you, but I'm just
talking about trying to, you know, turn chicken crap into
chicken salad here potentially, you know, for the final five
weeks of the year, And can they play five hundred
ball and maybe give them a chance to be in
this thing?
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Can they go barely above five hundred?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Is Dan Wilson gonna be able to maybe change things
up a little bit with the way they do things? Well, Well,
Egar Martinez coming here for five weeks and not give
a damn because he's not gonna coach full time. Of course,
he's done. Edgar Martinez, don't care. He gonna come in
here and do what he wants for five and a
half weeks. So I think from that perspective, there's a
part of me and look, I mean, obviously nobody would
bet the Mariners to make the playoffs, all right, that's
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a stupid bet. It's a waste of money. We all
agree with that. But I think the odds after last
night's game of these guys rallying, they were dead dead
on arrivals, life less, soulless corpses of Major League baseball players.
Can Dan Wilson provide a heart beat? Maybe maybe maybe
he can't. Maybe Dan Wilson comes in with a giant
baseball ekg wakes him up.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
And that was my whole point, because all the Mariners
three weeks ago would if needed, was a heart beat.
But now they don't need just to hurt meat. They
need a miracle now what they've done in the last
three weeks.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
If you're saying they waited too long, I can't argue
that at all. You know, again, this is we We
talked about this after the Tiger series, which is a
week ago.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
My thoughts on service, I thought he deserves some praise.
In the regular season, when they were ten games up
with no offense whatsoever. I think the first couple of months,
you know, hey, look at this guy. He's out there,
he's busting ass. He's getting nothing from his offense, blah
blah blah. And then it all fell apart. I mean,
I can tell you one thing Dan Wilson won't do.
When cal Rowley complains about not getting a bat and
pissed off they missed the playoffs, Dan Wilson's not telling.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Cal Rally to watch his mouth. That's no question, like
a got service, did it well.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Dan Wilson's also not being disrespectful to the media when
they ask him questions.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Yeah, yeah, I mean right right.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Dan Wilson's on the nicest guys we've ever met. I
don't care about that at all, and that's fine. I
mean it's important to some people. It's not important to me.
I just want to win games. I think this is
a part of a process, giving this kid a tryout,
giving Danny a tryout, to see what he does, see
what he looks like. Is he a guy you want
to have on your staff in a year from now?
Is Jerry gonna hang around? And if Jerry hangs around,
does Dan hang around? If Jerry gets fired, does Dan
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stay If Jerry gets fired, does the new guy get
to bring in his own person? I just think the options, again,
guys were very very limited in what to do, and
maybe maybe the options would have been bigger if they
did it a month ago. But look he's out all right,
and the next guy who's back against the walls to
Poto for sure.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Because I mean, you just said it right there.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
If a month ago you go to let's say Jerry's
got his list. You always say athletic directors have their list, right,
Athletic directors have their list of their next coach, right,
and it's a living, breathing list. Well, if Jerry Depoto
truly had a list, right, what if he makes a
phone call a month from now, So let's just throw
out a name. Let's just say, right right, and he
throws out a phone call and said, Joe, I got
a first place baseball team for you.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
I want you to take to the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Okay, I mean that's not again, that's not how that works.
That that I mean, what do you mean?
Speaker 7 (18:12):
It does not how that works because it worked for
the Phillies two years ago.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Didn't they promote a guy from their Bobby Thompson was
on their bench.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
He was already there making a move the bench. He's
a broadcaster, but he's not he's not hooked up with
somebody else. I mean Joe Madden, first of af I'm
Joe Madden. I'm not taking this job unless I'm guaranteed,
like a four year deal, and I want that right now.
And John Stanton and Jerry may have names. They may
be names on other people's staffs. They may be bench
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coaches or pitching coaches.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
With somebody else. I have no idea where they are.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Pat Juhn's got a list. Jen Cohen always had a list.
You don't fire a guy that hires somebody else the
same year. You gotta wait until the season's over when
those guys become available. I mean, I'm maybe it's happened
somewhere where a free agent guy has walked in kept
the gig forever. But look, am I Do I think
that Jerry has a list to potential managers? He better
he's not doing his job. Do I think John's got
a list of potential presidents? He better or he's not
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doing his job. I mean, Katie Griggs left and took
the oriol job in the middle of the year because
the baseball business job came open and she took off.
I just think if you're talking about people that are
on other people's rosters, you gotta wait until the year's over,
So I don't mind it. I mean, we're talking about
a horrible situation here, We're talking about chicken crap and
chicken salad.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Is this the best they can do? I think it
might be for now.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Now Again, if it falls apart, who cares it falls apart,
Let Danny wear it, let Edgar wear it, and their
legacies won't be tainted whatsoever. Then you hire somebody else
over the offseason. But I think this, like I said
on Twitter today, Jerry's next. If this doesn't work, he's
out as well. And then John Stanton simply put his
gut ticket serious about winning a World Series title, stop
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making moves that affect your pocketbook, and start making moves
that impact the baseball team. When you're getting rid of
Tasca Hernandez and bringing in Mitch Hannig your because you
want to get rid of Robbie Ray's salary, and when
you're dumping Suarez to bring in Urieus because you want
to get rid of Suarez, a salary that's not helping
the baseball team, that's helping your bottom frickin line.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
That's got to stop.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
John Stanton's got a legacy on the line in this town,
as an owner and right now it's terrible. So let's
see what he does. Maybe he gets motivated. Now we're
gonna break. Stephen Suss coming up, Jeff Nelson's coming up next,
Brett Boone, Jared DeHart, mariner hitting coach, has also just
been whacked. Jerry Depoto is gonna have a zoom call
at three thirty today. We're gonna roll on that and
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Jeff Nelson is joining us from New York City with
us right now on the radio show Nelly. The Mariners
have fired Scott's service and they've named your former catcher
Dan Wilson as the new manager of the Mariners. What
do you make of the news coming out of the
two o six.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Man Absolutely is static for Dan Wilson. You know that
I catchers I think make the great the greatest managers anyway,
and I threw to him. I thought he was probably
the best catcher that I that I've ever pitched to,
and I knew that he would make a great great
manager is always at a time and if he wanted
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to do it. But I'm so happy that that Seattle
named him as a manager. I think he's going to
be outstanding. Hopefully it's just not an interm thing for
the next five weeks. Hopefully it's long term.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
But did they give him an opportunity to succeed?
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Jeff?
Speaker 5 (22:16):
I mean, if they would have done this three weeks
ago after a miserable series against the Angels or a
miserable series against Detroit, then you actually give Dan a shot.
I mean, does he have a legitimate shot in such
a short time with such a big hole to dig
out of?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Well, the offense is you know, when you have one
of the best pitching staffs in baseball and you have
one of the worst offensive than baseball, it's never going
to be a good mix.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Can he turn it around? I don't know. You know,
he's a very smart guy.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I guess it depends on who he surrounds him with
himself with you know, he isn't like they're going to
start making tons of changes with the coaching staff.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I wouldn't imagine.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Maybe next year, if they do name him the permanent manager,
maybe he goes out and find some of his ex
teammates or find some guys that he really wants around himself. Yeah,
and they're five games out of the West. They're seven
out of the Wild Cards. So the Wildcards forget about it.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
They know.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I don't think they have a shot with the way
the Houston's playing. I really don't know if they have
a shot with the West. But Dick, remember I think
we went on was it last year around this time
when I said, I don't know, it's going to be
really tough for the marriage to make the playoffs the
next thing they did, so they still have a shot.
It's always that different voice. Maybe Dan comes in and
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does something that maybe sparks sparks something in that clubhouse. Hey,
you have an ex player. I mean he's an ex
player and he's a very smart guy.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I'm so happy for him and hopefully the players take
to him. I don't care that he's never been a coach.
I don't care that he's never been a manager. I
think this guy's going to be the and do great there.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Well, Jeff Nelson's with us, and Jeff, I'm reading the
release that was sent out by the Mariners, and there's
going to be a zoo call with the POTO here
in a matter of seconds, and hope you get there.
Some clarification says Wilson's the twenty first manager in club history.
In eighteenth full time, they are not using the word
interim to describe Dan Wilson. Now, maybe that's just a mistake.
Maybe he is the interim guy and they'll reassess when
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the year's over. Would you be surprised if they just
hired him right now and gave him like a three
year contract and said you're the man for this year,
you're the man for next year and beyond.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
If he wants it, No, I wouldn't be surprised, and
I I would be surprised more if they just gave
it to him for the last next five weeks and say, okay, hey,
thanks a lot. You know, I would hope that he
would just take the job, say listen, I'm not going
to take it for five or six weeks.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I want it for a few more years, and I
want to be able.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I know analytics play a big part in this and
that's the way that the game is now. But hopefully
he goes and say, hey, I like to pick my
coaching staff, and maybe he goes out and pick some
next players and he surrounds himself from some really good
guys that players can relate to, and then you can
mix the analytics in with the with the current players
that like I mentioned that the players can relate to.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I hope it's a multi year deal. He deserves it.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
He's learned from one of the best managers that should
be a Hall of Famer, and lou Canela. He's played
for him for years in Seattle, also in Cincinnati, so
he's got a great track record. Every single person that's
ever played with Dan Wilson or pitch to him have
the utmost respect for him, and he's.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Great in the community.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I think this is an outstanding pick. I'm a little
surprised that it's taken this long for him to be
a manager.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I'm wondering.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
I'm trying to remember if you were ever part of
an ind season managerial change, were you, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
No, I never was, you know, I had most of
my career was with lou and Joe Tory, So you
weren't making changes?
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Yeah, you know you were, But so hypothetically, then take
a guess what do players feel when their managers get
whacked in the middle of the season. Is it excitement
like Okay, hey, we got a different voice, or is
it almost guilt like, oh man, I mean it's our
fault he got fired.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
I think it's both.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I think the reason one of one of the reasons
that they that the manager is the fall guy is
because the players aren't performing. You know, you look at
some of the players that the Seattle Mariners have, and
they have a really good team it's a shame that
they have, like I mentioned, the best pitching staff in
baseball and they have one of the worst offenses in baseball.
And when you have that combination, as a player, you
(26:25):
got to say, hey, this is one of our this
is this is our problem. This is one of the
reasons why Service got fired. Now, there could be in
some internal things that you guys probably know a lot
more than I do as far as how he gets.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Along with the players, how he got along with the media.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
But to bring in a guy like Dan Wilson that
is much respected through the Seattle community as a player,
hopefully these guys take to it and they really go
up to him.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
And maybe relax.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I don't I don't know the atmosphere that Service had
in that clubhouse or as a coaching staff.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
All I think about.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Listen, you have Scott Brochus, who was an outstanding player
himself and was the third base coach.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
All of a sudden, he didn't want to come back. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Edgar Martinez is probably one of the best designated hitters,
one of the best right handed hitters in baseball. He
didn't want any part of it, and he just came
every once in a while, So when that happens, what's
going on? I mean, you're talking about great players that
played in Seattle that all of a sudden you want
to try to sweep them aside. So something's going on
and you probably know more than I do.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Well, what's going on is they can't hit. That's what's
going on. Well, and this offense is terrible. And look,
I don't think they're elite by any standards at all,
but Polanco, Garver, Railey, Julio, I mean, this team center,
they should be better. They should be better. They have
underperformed the entire year. I mean, could they have been
twentieth in baseball? Could they have been eighteenth in baseball?
(27:47):
And if they are, they're probably in first place. I mean, god, Jeff,
you're not asking for a lot. So what is it
about this offense and these guys that when they come
here they just fall apart? And by the way, they're
winning it team Mobile Park, they have a much better
record at home.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
They can't even hit on the road, for God's sakes.
What's wrong with this offense?
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Right?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
And that's shocking to me because I look on our years,
and you know, our years, they didn't have a problem
hitting at say, well then it was safeg now Teamobile,
so they didn't have a problem. You know, you have
really quality players. You have Julio that Julio's has gotten
off to.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Bad starts the first couple of years.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I mean, this guy should be a thirty to thirty
five homer guy and he's not.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
You go and you make some really good changes. And
at the.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Deadline with the Rose Arena and he's had it down
the year with Campa Bay, all of a sudden he
comes to Seattle.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
I think it was a great pickup. Justin Turner. I
thought that was a great pickup.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I thought that's what you needed in that offense. And
Justin Turner's a winner. This guy's played on winning teams.
Rose Arenas played on winning teams. I thought this is
a big, huge asset. You look at Roadblas, I mean
they signed him to an extension. You know, he played
with Washington Is. He played on some winning teams there
with Nationals when they were winning. There's no reason why
(29:03):
this team shouldn't be in first place. There's no reason
why they shouldn't be in a hunt for the wild
card or at least a playoff spot.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
And I think what is their percentage now? I think
he's dropped down to like twenty percent.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
To make the playoffs. It's like it's like fifteen percent. Yeah, yeah,
not even worth looking at, man, not even worth looking
at all. Right, Nelly, great stuff. I heard the kids
are in New York with you for the weekend. Enjoy
that and uh, we'll talk soon, man. When something else
breaks here, we'll call you. Have your phone on standby, buddy.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Okay, thanks, great talking to you guys, all.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Right, yeah, good stuff. Jeff Nelson had the same reaction.
I think that Boonie's gonna have We'll find out what
Boonie at five o'clock. I think most guys that play
with Dan are all just thrilled for him that he
got the.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
Game, because he's the best dude ever.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, but they see more than that. They see a
real leader. They see a guy that can lead people.
And I think that's what this franchise has been missing.
Is he the long term guy?
Speaker 6 (29:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
And we're still waiting for this press conference with the
Poter to start. They're running fifteen minutes late. Has even started, right.
It's because in the press release it says he's the
full time guy.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
I mean it doesn't say full eighteen full time.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
They use the word full time and nowhere right anders
in this press release, there's no because it's say interim nowhere.
Speaker 8 (30:14):
Saying for this season and moving forward as well.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Wow, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
Holy crap.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
We'll discuss that next.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
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Speaker 6 (31:05):
All my boys and girls. A busy Thursday.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I was kind of hoping to have a quiet day,
but that's not gonna happen, Scott's service fired. Mayors confirming
Scott's service is out. He has been terminated by the Mariners.
Jared DeHart hitting coach fired, Dan Wilson hired. Reports of
Edgar Martinez has that been confirmed by the club Andrews Thegar.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
I haven't seen anything about that. I'll look right well.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
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So the Jerry Depoto press conference that was supposed to
start at three point thirty apparently.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Has not begun yet.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Just turning it just started twenty one minutes late officially
on that. We're gonna turn that around for you. Get
that on the air as soon as we can, because
God forbid, people.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Want to hear this live and we can't hear it
on the air.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I'm sure Roots Sports is showing this live and not
like cooking with some minor leaguer in his parents house
in North Carolina. Nobody would want to watch that. The
same clowns that run the PAC twelve network run Root Sport.
It's unbelievable. I mean, guys, you want to be in TV,
then be in TV, run a TV station, in a network,
like a network, not like a propaganda arm for your
(33:10):
baseball team.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
It drives me freaking nuts. But there's a.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Press release that came out and we're waiting for some clarification. Andrews,
if you hear anything, let us know, okay, that Dan
Wilson has been hired as the twenty first manager in
club history. Scott Service out in the eighteenth full time
full time? So did they just hand Dan Wilson the
keys permanently?
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Well?
Speaker 5 (33:32):
When Jared Translato, when Jared Depoto uses the term for
the next six weeks and going forward, I don't know
how you could interpret that anything other than he is.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
Going to be the manager next season?
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Right?
Speaker 7 (33:47):
And that stuns me.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
I mean, like you told me at the end of
last segment, the only thing I could get out of
my mouth was, holy crapt I mean, you are handing
the keys over to a competitive baseball team.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
Now we can question how competitive they.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Are, but you're handing foundation to a competitive team to
a guy that has never managed at any level in
his lifetime other than what he do the Rainiers one
or two days or something like that, and the future last.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Year, and I mean.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
This is this is the long term answer. And I'm
not saying Dan Wilson is gonna be a failure.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Yeah you could, you could be great. Who knows.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
The only time you've had any experience winning long term
in this franchise is when you had an established World
Series champion manager who didn't give a crap about what
the GM said, didn't give a crap about what the
owner said. He did it his way, and his way
work well.
Speaker 7 (34:44):
And every other year you have had somebody other than that.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
They've hired other guys that have had jobs before, and
it hasn't worked out. I mean really, in the end,
the rotten apples the ownership. I mean, that's where things
are rotten. To the core is the people that own
this baseball team and run this baseball team. That's number one,
number two. Look, I mean it's possible, like you said
that Dan Wilson has greatness in him, right, and they've
identified greatness like Todd Lawickie identified Pete Carroll, a two
time loser in the NFL, and he said, nope, he's ready.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
This is and he was dead on right.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
Pete won a national champ.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I get that.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
But if if right, but not, But that's totally different
than the NFL. You know that there's only two guys
that have done that, and it's Jimmy Johnson and him.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Don't he.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I got it, I got it. Run a base but
you you can run. I think baseball is different than
other sports out there. I think it really is. I
think if you have a great relationship, if you see
things differently, if you can connect with people, which I
think Scott sometimes had a hard time doing. I'm not
saying this is the right or wrong move. I totally
get your concerns, trust me. My point is this, if
(35:43):
they've just hired Dan Wilson full time without moving forward, okay.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
Well, I think that's a mistake. I think it's a mistake.
I think it's a.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Mistake for a couple of reasons. It's not fair to
the fan base, it's not fair to the franchise.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
Why would you do it now?
Speaker 6 (35:59):
I think it's not to him. It's not fair to
Dan Wilson.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I mean, don't you owe it to Dan Wilson to
let him prove it, to let him kind of go
through the process and go through the interview process and
see what else is out there. Talk to Dusty Baker,
talk to DeRosa, talk to Joe Madden, talk to whoever.
And if you come back to it, Dick and you
still want Dan as your guy, them great, whatever.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Right, But I think this is a mistake.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I think this is an absolute another just dropping of
the ball by the Mariners. Because if you really want
Dan Wilson to be your full time manager next year,
there's no rush to that.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
You can give him the job right now for five
six weeks, observe them whatever until Dan. Hey, if things
go well and Dan wink wink, you know they're gonna
go well, right, we'll give you the gig. But to
keep up appearances, we need to let our fan base
know that we're going through an exhaustive process to find
the next leader of this baseball team, and you haven't
done that. Look again, he may turn out to be awesome,
(36:57):
and I'm actually more excited about him than other people are.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
But I also get your point entirely. This is another example.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
It is unbelievable to me anybody who runs a business
anywhere PR.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
They are horrible at the PR game.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
They constantly say and do the wrong thing, and they've
done it again by giving Dan Wilson the full time job.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
This is a huge mistake, and.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
All you're doing is pissing people off and creating drama
and skepticism where there's no even room for it or
need for it.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
This is unnecessary. I just agree with you.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
The other franchises in this city go do business right.
The Seattle Seahawks they go through an exhaustive process and
hire Mike Holmgren. They go through an exhaustive process and
hire Pete Carroll. They go through an exhaustive process and
hire what he was called the greatest defensive mind on
planet Earth in Mike McDonald. The Washington Huskies go through
(37:53):
a nationwide search and find Klin de Boor because they're like,
of everybody else we could get, he's the right guy.
And damn it, he was the right guy. And then
they went through a nationwide search and found Jed Fish.
And they went through a nationwide search and found Pat Chunye.
And the Mariners just say, not only are we gonna
give Dan Wilson the job for now, We're gonna We're
(38:16):
not gonna go through an exhaustive nationwide search. We're gonna
hire him for good right here, and now I just
don't understand.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Well, that's why you gotta get somebody else to buy
this baseball team. John Stanton made this move. John Stanton
approves of this. John Stanton is the leader. Chris Larsen's
the leader. They made these moves. This is the wrong
message to send the fan base. And it's unfair to
Dan to put him in this position. Yes, because now
people all of a sudden are they're already pissed before
the guy even manages a game, that's right. I mean,
he's had the job for like three hours, and people
(38:46):
are like, what the hell. It's totally unfair to Dan,
and it's Dan is gonna be Jerry's yes, ma'am.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
Well we'll see now if Jerry gets fired at the
end of the year.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Okay, but does this look like Jerry's gonna get fired
at the end of the year when he is allowed
to hire a manager for long term?
Speaker 6 (39:03):
Yeah? Uh, all right, let's get a break.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Uh, Mike Holmgren, what do you guys want to do?
Andrews Uh, I know Jerry's talking right now. You want
to push Mike back. You want to have Mike on
next for a few minutes chatting about this.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
Let's uh yeah, well.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
Why don't we bring him on real quick? So I
don't know if the Zoom conference is going to end
by that time, So let's get Mike on.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
The year next.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
He was friends with Scott Servis, he was tight with Scott.
I just think getting Mike's thoughts on the process right
and how the Mariners have done it here with this process,
and then hopefully around four to twenty we'll hear a
little bit from Jerry to Poto. Stephen sus Is gonna
pop on at four to thirty, Brett Boon at five.
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