August 23, 2024 • 31 mins
Jerry Brewer joins the show to give his take on the Mariners managerial situation, and much more. Are the Huskies getting overlooked heading into the 2024 season?
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Normally Jerry joins us on a Thursday, and you know, Jerry,
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No, it's not a big enough name.
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Speaker 3 (02:36):
Boil boy, we had a lot to talk about with you,
my goodness.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I mean it was it was busy in the early summer,
and then you had the Olympics and you had a
little vacation and now you get home from your vacation
and we got all hell breaking loose with the with
the baseball team. So let's just talk about this move
yesterday Jerry was Scott Service. First of all, was it
the right move at the right time in your opinion?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
The decision to let him go or the decision to
let him go and elevate Dan Wilson, Like, let's let's
just kind of break it apart.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, well, let's start with just the decision to let
Scott's service go and the timing of the firing compared
to when they could have done They could have done
it much earlier obviously, or they could have not done
it at all this season.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's kind of it's kind of
a man move to me. I think we talk all
the time about just the fractions of a difference that
a manager to make, and yet when things go start
to go south, we put all we put an inordinate
amount of blame on the manager. I think Scott's service
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overall in his time in Seattle did a good job.
I think that what is holding them back is more
than Scott's services shortcomings and making decisions day to day, right,
And I get it, like I think anyone, you're not
just going to sit there and do anything. But it
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just kind of reminds me of an NFL decision in
Week three, just because you're upset, you're going to cut
somebody just to really show that you still care. I
don't think it's going to make a world of difference
in what happens the last thirty four games this season.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
How surprised, were you that Dan Wilson was named the
permanent manager. I mean the quote was for the next
six weeks and going forward, versus just making Dan Wilson
the manager for the rest of this year and then
opening it up to a nationwide search in November.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, I'm kind of stune there. Obviously, there's no one
who does. Everyone likes Dan Wilson. I mean, he's just
a class human being, and such a class human being
that I almost don't want him to step into a
situation I don't know what you can really salvage or
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what you can do in terms of really inspiring the
fan base. At this point, I would rather have seen
them do a big national search and just promoted someone
from the coaching staff for the rest of the year
and made their decision down the road instead of going
this route. I'm really interested to see how firm that
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commitment is going to be. You know, what if they
go fourteen and twenty the last thirty four games and
have a losing record, you know, that's something that could happen,
versus like what if they go twenty four and ten
and make the playoffs. It's like an easy decision, but
I think it's a tough spot for Dan to be in.
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I think it's a nostalgia move. Do I think that
Dan Wilson is smart enough to manage a ball club
and manage a winning ball club?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Do I think that I want him in this particular
situation when more change may be needed. I wish we
could spare a Mariner's legend, someone that we think really
fondly of a situation like this.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
MM. Well, and let's go to who made the decision?
I mean, is this a Jerry decision? And is this
a control issue with Jerry that he wants his hands
and everything and you know he wants to be able
to control the manager. Or you mentioned nostalgia And when
you think nostalgia and Seattle Mariners, you think about ownership, right,
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I mean, it seems like ownership is all about nostalgia.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So was this a Jerry mover? Do you think this
was a John Stanton move?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I mean, I would have a hard time thinking that
that there wouldn't be some ownership influence on this one.
I'm just thinking, what what is Dan Wilson really to
Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollander right like that they don't
have that long history with them. I do think there
is a part of Jerry to Poto that's just if
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you just follow the organizational plan, you know, we just
need a uh a manager that we can manipulate. It'll
be interesting to see if that's how Dan operates or
if they just decide, you know, we we need a
mixture of old school and new school, which I think
is the right approach for what ails this team. And
we're just gonna say not the hell to what what
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the front office wants. But you know, you've committed to me,
and I'm gonna manage this team the way I see
it and go go buy some a little bit of
borrowing from the past for just some some good gritty
baseball to go with the heavy baseball. I'm interested in that.
But yeah, I think I think, I think I'll put
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it this way, Dick. I think that ultimately the POTO
doesn't necessarily care who it is as long as they
are able to be influenced. And I do think that
John Stanton, knowing the totality of his time as a
member of the ownership group, would be inclined to want
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to go this route. So I do see DNA of
both on this and I'm definitely staring at the Stanton
fingerprints and wanting to know how much of a voice
he had in all this.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Well, maybe I'm being too simplistic about this, but the
conclusion I came to right away when I found out
that this was a long term higher for Dan Wilson
was that Jerry's coming back. I mean, Jerry's safe for
twenty twenty five. Do you do you agree with that
or do you potentially think that there could be a
change at.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
President at the end of the year.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yeah, I think that's oversimplified. I mean I think that actually,
if they really want to follow through and say, like
this is somebody that we've long believed could be a
manager in baseball and want to grow this guy, I
think that you could make that move independent of who's
running the team. I don't believe that the contracts of
Hollander and Depoto are perfectly aligned. So I think there
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is a scenario where justin Holland there it could be
your stop gap if you decided to move on, you know,
from the top top, you could just have the number
two guy in control for a year. No, I don't
think that just because he made a move with a
manager that he's safe. I think that's a difficult conversation
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that the owners need to have. And you know, I mean,
I'm kind of I'm more the person who's like, let's
pull the band aid off in one swoop. And I
think it's in the best interest of this franchise to
take a really hard look at just a clean break.
And thank you all very much for getting this team
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back to a level of competitiveness. But what this team
really needs is a finisher. And it happens all the
time in sports. We see it all the time, and
that's okay sometimes, but I would like to see a finisher,
just someone who really understands how to build a major
league club.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
People viewed the comparison to Steve Sarkasian. Steve Sarkisian took
you from zero to twelve and you know, got you
back to a Bowl game. But there was a lot
of people that question whether Steve Sarkisian was going to
be able to get it over the top. And it
led to Chris Peterson getting you over the top. So
maybe you could you could have something like that there.
You know, I just thought, Jerry, you know, the Poto's
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strengths are so strong being farm system development, pitching development,
and his weaknesses are so weak. I mean, I can't
remember a president or a general manager of any of
our sports teams around here that had such great strengths
and such glaring.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Weaknesses at the same time.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
It makes kind of evaluating his job, you know, it
makes it difficult for me to evaluate whether he's great
or not because he's you know, I explained it before.
It's like, it's like a report card with three a's,
and you know three A plus us is in three aps.
It's like, well, geez, are you a good student or not?
I mean, you're a C average, but you know, is
that enough to go forward?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yeah, it's a It's a difficult decision to make. I
can't remember anyone in my connection to Seattle's sports history
that has that dichotomy of strengths and weaknesses either. You know,
normally you think of someone I think like a John
Schneider who's just got clear, dramatic strengths that he's got
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weaknesses but he's able to manage it. And then I think,
let's let's draw a difference between Schneider who's gotten to
the top of the mountain with Pete Carroll obviously, and
the PODO who hasn't. I think John they both have
very particular ways that they want to do things. But
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I think Schneider started to realize, you know what, Hey,
or he has realized the entire time, Hey, talent takes
over right, and so I can adapt and I can
bend for talent, and for talent, I'm willing to make
mistakes because I believe that that guy can get us
over the top. I think that's what's missing from the
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POTO and that could be an ownership thing as well
in certain decisions that they haven't been able to make.
But they just haven't been willing to just say, you
know what, this doesn't work perfectly with our plan, But
I think that guy can help us win. And you've
got to have the guts in baseball to be able
to say that guy can help us win and I
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know it, and I got to feel for it and
go and we're going to do it. And then from
a manager's standpoint, as a general manager, sometimes you just
got to eat it say we've got all of these
new school braining things that we want to do, but hell,
Skip just has a way a feel for the game,
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and we need both of us. We don't need to
have too much control. It just seems like maybe the
concern to me is just that the marriage have been
to micromanaged, and I feel that from this coaching staff
that have now combusted, and I think you feel it
down on the field to the players and how lost
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in their heads so many of their hitters have been.
And I think if you're at the top of the organization,
you need to take a look, take a step back
and say, look, it's some of this just the pressure
that we're applying from the top. And I think if
they took a seriously look there, they would say, you
know what, we can loosen the reins with it.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
As a columnist and as a reporter before that, get
you've gotten scoops for years, You've gotten inside info for years.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Please tell me.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
How Scott's service finds out by watching television he was
getting fired and it doesn't come from Jerry himself.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Walk us through what happened.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I mean, it would just all be speculation on my part.
And you know, I can just take a step back,
and this is looking at it from thirty thousand feet,
so I don't know if that's a human being or
a goat that I'm looking at from thirty thousand feet.
But I think what happened is that certain information was
promised on a certain timeline and the information between the
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front office and Ken Rosenthal. I guess in this instance
that basically Ken pushed the button way before they were ready.
And that happens, I mean it, it's and and now
that happens in this world in which you borter for
information and every break, like people think that that some
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guys get stuff because they work harder than others. The
game is like totally rigged now, and it's all about
you know, who can who can help us the most,
who's gonna be able to get the most shine, who's
going to tell this story the way that we want
it told. And I think in this case, the Poto
Trust is the wrong guy, and he jumped the gun
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on it. And it's incredibly embarrassing because like there's just
a there's a first class way of doing things, and
then there's just the atrocious wrong way of doing things.
And that's just a mistake that as a president of
Baseball operations you can not make. That's just that's a
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relational thing, right, Like we understand that you're not going
to bat a thousand, You're not even going to bout
seven fifty on the moves that you make. But when
you have to make a tough decision, you cannot let
your manager. You know, a guy that's been with you
since before the Amarness, someone that you handpicked to help
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you regrow this franchise. He can't hear that information from
another source, right, You just can't.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, it was terrible.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I mean it was one of the worst things about yesterday,
I think for the Mariners' house got found out about it.
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take on a college football situation that we're seeing in
twenty twenty four. And I heard Pat Forty on with
Chuck today in the morning use a term that I've
never heard in college football before. He said, Ohio State
is going all in on their payroll this year. He
says it's up to twenty million dollars for players. I
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think twelve of it is just transfers, and then the
other eight is the players that they already had there,
I mean, And it got me thinking, Jerry, are we
going to see teams having to go for it certain years, like, Okay,
we got a veteran team, We're gonna go for it
this year, and then pull back in a year or
two because you know, there's only so much nil money
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to go around. It almost like a like a baseball
situation where you see the Miami Marlins or the Tampa
bay Rays, like, hey, we're gonna go all in for
two years and try to win a World Series and
then we're gonna.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Suck for five years. Do you think we're gonna see
that infiltrate college football?
Speaker 4 (17:22):
It will infiltrate college football if we're not careful. And
that's where I would love there to be some kind
of regulation. I don't want it to be forced by Congress,
and I don't think Congress really wants any part of
this anyway, but their needs that they need to figure
it out before something, some lawsuit or some other thing
figures it out for them, because you can't have these
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situations in which I think twenty million is going to
go to thirty to forty to fifty really really fast.
And then on the other hand, how is everyone else
going to compete? And I don't want to have a
bunch of a bunch of high school kids or college
players who are really good at another school who can't
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stay at the school that they became stars at because
the money is just too big somewhere else like that
that I do not believe flatly in amateurism. But that
defies everything that we've ever thought of about college athletics,
and so you got to nip that in the bud
as quickly as you possibly can. I would love some
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kind of system where you have to report, you know,
this nil money and it is capped at a at
a certain amount, but I think we're three five years
away from anything like that happening, and it's just going
to be utter chaos until then. So Yeah, Unfortunately, I
think we're going to hear that word team payroll quite
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a bit.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
No question, And you know, it's important for everybody, including
including why Washington.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
And I'm wondering, Jerry.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You know, we'll talk more about the Huskies next week
when we talked to you again leading up to their
first game, But I'm wondering if people aren't just sleeping
on the Huskies. I mean, you got John Wilner picking
them eleventh in the Big Ten. You saw the ESPN
today came out with their you know, their tiers in
Washington was in the tenth tier of teams it was.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
It just seems to me.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Like there's not a lot of respect being put on
this program nor the really quality players that Jedfish is
able to assemble from other programs.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Yeah, I mean, what we've never seen them play together though, Dick, right,
I mean, I think everything that's the prediction is just
an educated guess. And you look at Washington and you say, okay,
this team played for the national title last year and
then lost everybody, including the whole coaching staff, and they
brought in all of these transfers, and they were tarrying
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a few interesting players, but they lost like a lot
of like they're really high, high end players to a
couple of other schools. And you just don't know. So
you're gonna err on the side of caution and say,
all right, like, I mean, eleventh, what's the difference between eleventh,
seventh a sixth? It doesn't matter at this point, Like,
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if anything maybe it helps them that they're gonna be
slept on, Yeah, because don't have a ship on their
shoulders going to get tim play. But yeah, I mean,
if you're making an educated guest right now on Washington,
it's not a mark against the program for you to
not think highly of them right now. I think ultimately
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all those preseason predictions which mean nothing, are just about saying, like,
here's what they lost, here's what we know that they
have coming in. Here's the fact that we've never seen
Jetfish coach a game at Husky Stadium, and we've never
seen this combination of players play together. And so until
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further notice, this is where we're gonna put him. And
if they don't like it, you got twelve games to
do something about it.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
That's right, that's right. And he's using his motivation.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Heck, he had a T shirt that said Where's Washington
on it and that had the top twenty five up there,
so he's no question using it as motivation.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Jerry's always great to chat with you. We'll talk once
more next week.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
All right, sounds great man, Thanks.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
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Speaker 3 (21:29):
Let's let's talk about that a little bit in the
next segment.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And we've done a lot of baseball thus far, but
this sleeping on Washington, Yeah, let's let's talk about that.
And you can jump on the text lines as well.
Four nine, four or five to one. Are people going
too far down the road of just burying the Washington
Huskies this year and just you know.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Just saying, hey, map at best seven wins.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I mean, this is a bottom five six team in
the Big Ten. You know, John Wilner's got him eleventh.
I mean I saw one website I had him.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
At eighty Hey, you know he told me.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Jedfish told me that a website had him at eighty second.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Oh he knows it.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He's away. That's what I found.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I found out from Jedfish's face that a website had
him eighty seconds. So you know he's thinking about it. Yeah,
there's no question about that. Four nine, four to five one.
Also on the text line, does this move that the
Mariners made yesterday do anything at all to increase your
interest level for the rest of the year, or is
your hope for a turnaround, just you know, forget about it,
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too little, too late.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Four nine, four five to one.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
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Speaker 1 (22:56):
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Speaker 2 (23:09):
From Genie Stadium in Tacoma. It's been fun coming here
on Fridays in the summertime. Now most of the other
fridays we've had it's been seventy five eighty degrees beautiful.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Different today quite so much.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
But I'm looking out here at the tarp and it's
on the on the field.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It's not really raining, all right. I mean maybe, I.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Mean you could absolutely play baseball on what's happening right now,
all right today, So we'll see about that. I'm gonna
be coming on a Sunday, bringing the fam.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
That'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It's a great time down here at Chenie Stadium. They've
got three home stands left if you include this one.
So get your tickets at Tacoma Rainiers dot com and
come watch.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Some some cool Triple A baseball.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
We've been talking baseball most of the day, as you
probably might imagine, I do want to spend a segment
talking a little football. We we talked about the the predictions,
the prognosticators not giving Washington a lot of credit. And
you know, I think andrews you when I see Washington
as not one of the elite, elite programs in college football,
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but whatever that second tier is, Washington absolutely belongs in
that second tier. And I just think a lot of
I think a lot of other programs that are in
that second tier would have probably gotten a lot more
respect going into this season than Washington is getting. And
maybe that's just because you know, we're out here on
the West Coast. Nobody pays attention. Heck, nobody paid attention
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to us last year until we were like, you know,
ten and oh yeah, so I mean it takes longer
right to pay to pay attention to it. And you know,
before anybody says, ah, just fame being a Husky homer.
I will tell you exactly where I thought the team
would be last year at this time, and I'll tell
you exactly where I thought they'd be two years ago,
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the year Kaitlyn de Borer took over. I sat on
the air. Seven wins is a successful season, and my
prediction is seven or eight wins. They won eleven.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Last year I said they would challenge for the Pac
twelve Championship and that there's an outside shot of a
Final four. That was my prediction, and that they'd lose two.
I think I had them losing either one or two
regular season games. They made the Final four, won the
Pac twelve Championship and lost zero regular season games. So
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they have outperformed my expectations each of the last two years.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I'm just gonna go back those two.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I know I've had other seasons where they have far
exceeded my expectations. So usually I'm one that kind of
likes to pull back my expectations a little bit on
my favorite teams versus pushing them forward.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
But I just see a team anders.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
That starting at the quarterback position with a guy that
has seen it all in college football. Has seen the
most hostile environments you can possibly and has succeeded a
running back room led by Joel McColeman and Cam Davis,
and this freshman Adam Mahabbon is something else that is
as good a running back room as there is in
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the entire conference. In my opinion, the two wide receivers,
now that you don't have the depth of wide receiver
that you had last year, certainly, but Denzel Boston is special.
He is special. He will be every bit as good
as the receivers. I'm not gonna say he's gonna have
the greatest season in Husky history or the greatest career
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in Husky is history, like Roma Dunes they just did.
But he is that type of talent that he would
fit in very very nicely with the Adonsay McMillan polk trio,
and he would have if there was more snaps for
him to have last year, right if any one of
those guys that went down, if you know, if any
one of those guys would have gone down for an
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extended period of time, I think he would have stepped
in and you would not have missed a beat. It's
just about the it's about the line of scrimmages. Right,
it's about the offensive line and the defensive line, and
if those two units can just be somewhere around league average,
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somewhere around the eighth ninth tenth best offensive line in
the Big Ten, eighth ninth tenth best defensive line in
the Big Ten. You've got the other positions on both
the offense and the defense. Love the linebacker corps veterans,
love the secondary. Not as deep as it was in
years past, but it's still got top end guys like Epheesians,
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Price Sock, I like Thateus Dixon, I like Cam fab
and like his seventeenth.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Year at the University of Washington.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I mean, there's just a lot to like about this
team that I think people are just putting a blanket
over and saying, oh, they lost everybody, they're not going
to be any good. I think that's a real twenty
fifteen way of evaluating a college football team, because it's
not about rich turning starters in college football and able,
it's about returning starters on any team that are now
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starters on your team, not returning starters from your team.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Anders, Yeah, I completely agree, And there's just so much unknown,
so It's hard for me to have a really strong
opinion going into this year, but I will say this
is as close as I've seen the two football teams
in Seattle kind of mirror each other in the most
recent memory. Like you said, kind of the biggest questions
are on the offensive and defensive line, on that line
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of scrimmage, and you have the other position Seahawks in
the secondary, Huskies in the receiver room. And you know
you can trust your secondary a little bit more with
the Huskies too, Yeah, I just I don't know how.
And but plus with the new coaching staff as well,
so that those are so many question marks going into
this year that the expectations you can't really skyrocket them
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because of that. But I do agree, I think they're
too low at this point. So that's why I think
pushing them up a little bit higher. I think this,
Like I said, the Seahawks are in the same boat.
People are kind of not really don't really know what
to think about them going into this year with so
many new pieces to the team. But I'm with you.
I think Huskies can challenge for that maybe fifth or
sixth spot in the Big Ten.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Oh, I mean, I'm gonna when we have Wilner on
next week, I'm gonna wager with him on the air.
I'll say, I'll place a sizable wager with you, John,
to charity, you know, a charity wager until charity of
your choice. He says, they're gonna be eleventh in the
big ten. I'll go, John, I take anywhere from one
to ten. I'll even give you eleventh. You get eleventh
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through eighteenth. I get one through ten, and wherever the
Husky's finished, the winner goes to you know, the winner
gets the charity money.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
So we'll see if he'll bite on that one.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
You think they flirt with top twenty five this year.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yes, I think they flirt with well, in one pole,
they're one spot away from the top twenty five already, right,
so in one pole they beat Weber State, and they're
probably right top twenty.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
And that's the other thing I'm thinking of, Like, I
can't remember a year of Husky football where the first
game of the year actually means this much like, yeah,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, I've been excited for a first game, right, yes, exactly,
you know, I know. He just compared to like like Michigan,
for example, Michigan.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Lost a ton, right, a ton, And.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
They lost Jim harbaughd just like we lost Calendibor and
their ninth because they're Michigan, yes, right, And and I
think Washington deserves a little bit more respect. And I
don't think Washington's gonna, you know, they're not gonna do
anything close to what they've done the last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I understand that.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
But there's no reason they shouldn't win the last five games,
first five games of the season. There's just no reason
that they shouldn't. They are just a better football team
than all the first five teams they play. And then
can you squeeze three out of the last seven.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
That's gonna be the big question I think for this year.
It's like, can you do any sort of close to
five hundred the second half of the year, which absolutely yeah, yeah,
absolutely successful Sea.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
We'll talk a lot.
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Speaker 2 (01:55):
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Speaker 3 (02:36):
Boil boy, we had a lot to talk about with you,
my goodness.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I mean it was it was busy in the early summer,
and then you had the Olympics and you had a
little vacation and now you get home from your vacation
and we got all hell breaking loose with the with
the baseball team. So let's just talk about this move
yesterday Jerry was Scott Service. First of all, was it
the right move at the right time in your opinion?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
The decision to let him go or the decision to
let him go and elevate Dan Wilson, Like, let's let's
just kind of break it apart.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, well, let's start with just the decision to let
Scott's service go and the timing of the firing compared
to when they could have done They could have done
it much earlier obviously, or they could have not done
it at all this season.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's kind of it's kind of
a man move to me. I think we talk all
the time about just the fractions of a difference that
a manager to make, and yet when things go start
to go south, we put all we put an inordinate
amount of blame on the manager. I think Scott's service
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overall in his time in Seattle did a good job.
I think that what is holding them back is more
than Scott's services shortcomings and making decisions day to day, right,
And I get it, like I think anyone, you're not
just going to sit there and do anything. But it
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just kind of reminds me of an NFL decision in
Week three, just because you're upset, you're going to cut
somebody just to really show that you still care. I
don't think it's going to make a world of difference
in what happens the last thirty four games this season.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
How surprised, were you that Dan Wilson was named the
permanent manager. I mean the quote was for the next
six weeks and going forward, versus just making Dan Wilson
the manager for the rest of this year and then
opening it up to a nationwide search in November.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, I'm kind of stune there. Obviously, there's no one
who does. Everyone likes Dan Wilson. I mean, he's just
a class human being, and such a class human being
that I almost don't want him to step into a
situation I don't know what you can really salvage or
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what you can do in terms of really inspiring the
fan base. At this point, I would rather have seen
them do a big national search and just promoted someone
from the coaching staff for the rest of the year
and made their decision down the road instead of going
this route. I'm really interested to see how firm that
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commitment is going to be. You know, what if they
go fourteen and twenty the last thirty four games and
have a losing record, you know, that's something that could happen,
versus like what if they go twenty four and ten
and make the playoffs. It's like an easy decision, but
I think it's a tough spot for Dan to be in.
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I think it's a nostalgia move. Do I think that
Dan Wilson is smart enough to manage a ball club
and manage a winning ball club?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Do I think that I want him in this particular
situation when more change may be needed. I wish we
could spare a Mariner's legend, someone that we think really
fondly of a situation like this.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
MM. Well, and let's go to who made the decision?
I mean, is this a Jerry decision? And is this
a control issue with Jerry that he wants his hands
and everything and you know he wants to be able
to control the manager. Or you mentioned nostalgia And when
you think nostalgia and Seattle Mariners, you think about ownership, right,
(06:28):
I mean, it seems like ownership is all about nostalgia.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So was this a Jerry mover? Do you think this
was a John Stanton move?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I mean, I would have a hard time thinking that
that there wouldn't be some ownership influence on this one.
I'm just thinking, what what is Dan Wilson really to
Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollander right like that they don't
have that long history with them. I do think there
is a part of Jerry to Poto that's just if
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you just follow the organizational plan, you know, we just
need a uh a manager that we can manipulate. It'll
be interesting to see if that's how Dan operates or
if they just decide, you know, we we need a
mixture of old school and new school, which I think
is the right approach for what ails this team. And
we're just gonna say not the hell to what what
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the front office wants. But you know, you've committed to me,
and I'm gonna manage this team the way I see
it and go go buy some a little bit of
borrowing from the past for just some some good gritty
baseball to go with the heavy baseball. I'm interested in that.
But yeah, I think I think, I think I'll put
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it this way, Dick. I think that ultimately the POTO
doesn't necessarily care who it is as long as they
are able to be influenced. And I do think that
John Stanton, knowing the totality of his time as a
member of the ownership group, would be inclined to want
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to go this route. So I do see DNA of
both on this and I'm definitely staring at the Stanton
fingerprints and wanting to know how much of a voice
he had in all this.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Well, maybe I'm being too simplistic about this, but the
conclusion I came to right away when I found out
that this was a long term higher for Dan Wilson
was that Jerry's coming back. I mean, Jerry's safe for
twenty twenty five. Do you do you agree with that
or do you potentially think that there could be a
change at.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
President at the end of the year.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yeah, I think that's oversimplified. I mean I think that actually,
if they really want to follow through and say, like
this is somebody that we've long believed could be a
manager in baseball and want to grow this guy, I
think that you could make that move independent of who's
running the team. I don't believe that the contracts of
Hollander and Depoto are perfectly aligned. So I think there
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is a scenario where justin Holland there it could be
your stop gap if you decided to move on, you know,
from the top top, you could just have the number
two guy in control for a year. No, I don't
think that just because he made a move with a
manager that he's safe. I think that's a difficult conversation
(09:22):
that the owners need to have. And you know, I mean,
I'm kind of I'm more the person who's like, let's
pull the band aid off in one swoop. And I
think it's in the best interest of this franchise to
take a really hard look at just a clean break.
And thank you all very much for getting this team
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back to a level of competitiveness. But what this team
really needs is a finisher. And it happens all the
time in sports. We see it all the time, and
that's okay sometimes, but I would like to see a finisher,
just someone who really understands how to build a major
league club.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
People viewed the comparison to Steve Sarkasian. Steve Sarkisian took
you from zero to twelve and you know, got you
back to a Bowl game. But there was a lot
of people that question whether Steve Sarkisian was going to
be able to get it over the top. And it
led to Chris Peterson getting you over the top. So
maybe you could you could have something like that there.
You know, I just thought, Jerry, you know, the Poto's
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strengths are so strong being farm system development, pitching development,
and his weaknesses are so weak. I mean, I can't
remember a president or a general manager of any of
our sports teams around here that had such great strengths
and such glaring.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Weaknesses at the same time.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
It makes kind of evaluating his job, you know, it
makes it difficult for me to evaluate whether he's great
or not because he's you know, I explained it before.
It's like, it's like a report card with three a's,
and you know three A plus us is in three aps.
It's like, well, geez, are you a good student or not?
I mean, you're a C average, but you know, is
that enough to go forward?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yeah, it's a It's a difficult decision to make. I
can't remember anyone in my connection to Seattle's sports history
that has that dichotomy of strengths and weaknesses either. You know,
normally you think of someone I think like a John
Schneider who's just got clear, dramatic strengths that he's got
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weaknesses but he's able to manage it. And then I think,
let's let's draw a difference between Schneider who's gotten to
the top of the mountain with Pete Carroll obviously, and
the PODO who hasn't. I think John they both have
very particular ways that they want to do things. But
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I think Schneider started to realize, you know what, Hey,
or he has realized the entire time, Hey, talent takes
over right, and so I can adapt and I can
bend for talent, and for talent, I'm willing to make
mistakes because I believe that that guy can get us
over the top. I think that's what's missing from the
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POTO and that could be an ownership thing as well
in certain decisions that they haven't been able to make.
But they just haven't been willing to just say, you
know what, this doesn't work perfectly with our plan, But
I think that guy can help us win. And you've
got to have the guts in baseball to be able
to say that guy can help us win and I
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know it, and I got to feel for it and
go and we're going to do it. And then from
a manager's standpoint, as a general manager, sometimes you just
got to eat it say we've got all of these
new school braining things that we want to do, but hell,
Skip just has a way a feel for the game,
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and we need both of us. We don't need to
have too much control. It just seems like maybe the
concern to me is just that the marriage have been
to micromanaged, and I feel that from this coaching staff
that have now combusted, and I think you feel it
down on the field to the players and how lost
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in their heads so many of their hitters have been.
And I think if you're at the top of the organization,
you need to take a look, take a step back
and say, look, it's some of this just the pressure
that we're applying from the top. And I think if
they took a seriously look there, they would say, you
know what, we can loosen the reins with it.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
As a columnist and as a reporter before that, get
you've gotten scoops for years, You've gotten inside info for years.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Please tell me.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
How Scott's service finds out by watching television he was
getting fired and it doesn't come from Jerry himself.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Walk us through what happened.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I mean, it would just all be speculation on my part.
And you know, I can just take a step back,
and this is looking at it from thirty thousand feet,
so I don't know if that's a human being or
a goat that I'm looking at from thirty thousand feet.
But I think what happened is that certain information was
promised on a certain timeline and the information between the
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front office and Ken Rosenthal. I guess in this instance
that basically Ken pushed the button way before they were ready.
And that happens, I mean it, it's and and now
that happens in this world in which you borter for
information and every break, like people think that that some
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guys get stuff because they work harder than others. The
game is like totally rigged now, and it's all about
you know, who can who can help us the most,
who's gonna be able to get the most shine, who's
going to tell this story the way that we want
it told. And I think in this case, the Poto
Trust is the wrong guy, and he jumped the gun
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on it. And it's incredibly embarrassing because like there's just
a there's a first class way of doing things, and
then there's just the atrocious wrong way of doing things.
And that's just a mistake that as a president of
Baseball operations you can not make. That's just that's a
(15:32):
relational thing, right, Like we understand that you're not going
to bat a thousand, You're not even going to bout
seven fifty on the moves that you make. But when
you have to make a tough decision, you cannot let
your manager. You know, a guy that's been with you
since before the Amarness, someone that you handpicked to help
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you regrow this franchise. He can't hear that information from
another source, right, You just can't.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, it was terrible.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I mean it was one of the worst things about yesterday,
I think for the Mariners' house got found out about it.
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(16:25):
take on a college football situation that we're seeing in
twenty twenty four. And I heard Pat Forty on with
Chuck today in the morning use a term that I've
never heard in college football before. He said, Ohio State
is going all in on their payroll this year. He
says it's up to twenty million dollars for players. I
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think twelve of it is just transfers, and then the
other eight is the players that they already had there,
I mean, And it got me thinking, Jerry, are we
going to see teams having to go for it certain years, like, Okay,
we got a veteran team, We're gonna go for it
this year, and then pull back in a year or
two because you know, there's only so much nil money
(17:07):
to go around. It almost like a like a baseball
situation where you see the Miami Marlins or the Tampa
bay Rays, like, hey, we're gonna go all in for
two years and try to win a World Series and
then we're gonna.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Suck for five years. Do you think we're gonna see
that infiltrate college football?
Speaker 4 (17:22):
It will infiltrate college football if we're not careful. And
that's where I would love there to be some kind
of regulation. I don't want it to be forced by Congress,
and I don't think Congress really wants any part of
this anyway, but their needs that they need to figure
it out before something, some lawsuit or some other thing
figures it out for them, because you can't have these
(17:46):
situations in which I think twenty million is going to
go to thirty to forty to fifty really really fast.
And then on the other hand, how is everyone else
going to compete? And I don't want to have a
bunch of a bunch of high school kids or college
players who are really good at another school who can't
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stay at the school that they became stars at because
the money is just too big somewhere else like that
that I do not believe flatly in amateurism. But that
defies everything that we've ever thought of about college athletics,
and so you got to nip that in the bud
as quickly as you possibly can. I would love some
(18:31):
kind of system where you have to report, you know,
this nil money and it is capped at a at
a certain amount, but I think we're three five years
away from anything like that happening, and it's just going
to be utter chaos until then. So Yeah, Unfortunately, I
think we're going to hear that word team payroll quite
(18:54):
a bit.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
No question, And you know, it's important for everybody, including
including why Washington.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
And I'm wondering, Jerry.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You know, we'll talk more about the Huskies next week
when we talked to you again leading up to their
first game, But I'm wondering if people aren't just sleeping
on the Huskies. I mean, you got John Wilner picking
them eleventh in the Big Ten. You saw the ESPN
today came out with their you know, their tiers in
Washington was in the tenth tier of teams it was.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
It just seems to me.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Like there's not a lot of respect being put on
this program nor the really quality players that Jedfish is
able to assemble from other programs.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Yeah, I mean, what we've never seen them play together though, Dick, right,
I mean, I think everything that's the prediction is just
an educated guess. And you look at Washington and you say, okay,
this team played for the national title last year and
then lost everybody, including the whole coaching staff, and they
brought in all of these transfers, and they were tarrying
(19:55):
a few interesting players, but they lost like a lot
of like they're really high, high end players to a
couple of other schools. And you just don't know. So
you're gonna err on the side of caution and say,
all right, like, I mean, eleventh, what's the difference between eleventh,
seventh a sixth? It doesn't matter at this point, Like,
(20:16):
if anything maybe it helps them that they're gonna be
slept on, Yeah, because don't have a ship on their
shoulders going to get tim play. But yeah, I mean,
if you're making an educated guest right now on Washington,
it's not a mark against the program for you to
not think highly of them right now. I think ultimately
(20:36):
all those preseason predictions which mean nothing, are just about saying, like,
here's what they lost, here's what we know that they
have coming in. Here's the fact that we've never seen
Jetfish coach a game at Husky Stadium, and we've never
seen this combination of players play together. And so until
(20:57):
further notice, this is where we're gonna put him. And
if they don't like it, you got twelve games to
do something about it.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
That's right, that's right. And he's using his motivation.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Heck, he had a T shirt that said Where's Washington
on it and that had the top twenty five up there,
so he's no question using it as motivation.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Jerry's always great to chat with you. We'll talk once
more next week.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
All right, sounds great man, Thanks.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
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Speaker 3 (21:29):
Let's let's talk about that a little bit in the
next segment.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And we've done a lot of baseball thus far, but
this sleeping on Washington, Yeah, let's let's talk about that.
And you can jump on the text lines as well.
Four nine, four or five to one. Are people going
too far down the road of just burying the Washington
Huskies this year and just you know.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Just saying, hey, map at best seven wins.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I mean, this is a bottom five six team in
the Big Ten. You know, John Wilner's got him eleventh.
I mean I saw one website I had him.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
At eighty Hey, you know he told me.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Jedfish told me that a website had him at eighty second.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Oh he knows it.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He's away. That's what I found.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I found out from Jedfish's face that a website had
him eighty seconds. So you know he's thinking about it. Yeah,
there's no question about that. Four nine, four to five one.
Also on the text line, does this move that the
Mariners made yesterday do anything at all to increase your
interest level for the rest of the year, or is
your hope for a turnaround, just you know, forget about it,
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too little, too late.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Four nine, four five to one.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
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Speaker 2 (23:09):
From Genie Stadium in Tacoma. It's been fun coming here
on Fridays in the summertime. Now most of the other
fridays we've had it's been seventy five eighty degrees beautiful.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Different today quite so much.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
But I'm looking out here at the tarp and it's
on the on the field.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It's not really raining, all right. I mean maybe, I.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Mean you could absolutely play baseball on what's happening right now,
all right today, So we'll see about that. I'm gonna
be coming on a Sunday, bringing the fam.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
That'll be fun.
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Speaker 3 (23:47):
Some some cool Triple A baseball.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
We've been talking baseball most of the day, as you
probably might imagine, I do want to spend a segment
talking a little football. We we talked about the the predictions,
the prognosticators not giving Washington a lot of credit. And
you know, I think andrews you when I see Washington
as not one of the elite, elite programs in college football,
(24:11):
but whatever that second tier is, Washington absolutely belongs in
that second tier. And I just think a lot of
I think a lot of other programs that are in
that second tier would have probably gotten a lot more
respect going into this season than Washington is getting. And
maybe that's just because you know, we're out here on
the West Coast. Nobody pays attention. Heck, nobody paid attention
(24:32):
to us last year until we were like, you know,
ten and oh yeah, so I mean it takes longer
right to pay to pay attention to it. And you know,
before anybody says, ah, just fame being a Husky homer.
I will tell you exactly where I thought the team
would be last year at this time, and I'll tell
you exactly where I thought they'd be two years ago,
(24:53):
the year Kaitlyn de Borer took over. I sat on
the air. Seven wins is a successful season, and my
prediction is seven or eight wins. They won eleven.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Last year I said they would challenge for the Pac
twelve Championship and that there's an outside shot of a
Final four. That was my prediction, and that they'd lose two.
I think I had them losing either one or two
regular season games. They made the Final four, won the
Pac twelve Championship and lost zero regular season games. So
(25:30):
they have outperformed my expectations each of the last two years.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I'm just gonna go back those two.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I know I've had other seasons where they have far
exceeded my expectations. So usually I'm one that kind of
likes to pull back my expectations a little bit on
my favorite teams versus pushing them forward.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
But I just see a team anders.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
That starting at the quarterback position with a guy that
has seen it all in college football. Has seen the
most hostile environments you can possibly and has succeeded a
running back room led by Joel McColeman and Cam Davis,
and this freshman Adam Mahabbon is something else that is
as good a running back room as there is in
(26:12):
the entire conference. In my opinion, the two wide receivers,
now that you don't have the depth of wide receiver
that you had last year, certainly, but Denzel Boston is special.
He is special. He will be every bit as good
as the receivers. I'm not gonna say he's gonna have
the greatest season in Husky history or the greatest career
(26:33):
in Husky is history, like Roma Dunes they just did.
But he is that type of talent that he would
fit in very very nicely with the Adonsay McMillan polk trio,
and he would have if there was more snaps for
him to have last year, right if any one of
those guys that went down, if you know, if any
one of those guys would have gone down for an
(26:54):
extended period of time, I think he would have stepped
in and you would not have missed a beat. It's
just about the it's about the line of scrimmages. Right,
it's about the offensive line and the defensive line, and
if those two units can just be somewhere around league average,
(27:16):
somewhere around the eighth ninth tenth best offensive line in
the Big Ten, eighth ninth tenth best defensive line in
the Big Ten. You've got the other positions on both
the offense and the defense. Love the linebacker corps veterans,
love the secondary. Not as deep as it was in
years past, but it's still got top end guys like Epheesians,
(27:39):
Price Sock, I like Thateus Dixon, I like Cam fab
and like his seventeenth.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Year at the University of Washington.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I mean, there's just a lot to like about this
team that I think people are just putting a blanket
over and saying, oh, they lost everybody, they're not going
to be any good. I think that's a real twenty
fifteen way of evaluating a college football team, because it's
not about rich turning starters in college football and able,
it's about returning starters on any team that are now
(28:06):
starters on your team, not returning starters from your team.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Anders, Yeah, I completely agree, And there's just so much unknown,
so It's hard for me to have a really strong
opinion going into this year, but I will say this
is as close as I've seen the two football teams
in Seattle kind of mirror each other in the most
recent memory. Like you said, kind of the biggest questions
are on the offensive and defensive line, on that line
(28:29):
of scrimmage, and you have the other position Seahawks in
the secondary, Huskies in the receiver room. And you know
you can trust your secondary a little bit more with
the Huskies too, Yeah, I just I don't know how.
And but plus with the new coaching staff as well,
so that those are so many question marks going into
this year that the expectations you can't really skyrocket them
(28:51):
because of that. But I do agree, I think they're
too low at this point. So that's why I think
pushing them up a little bit higher. I think this,
Like I said, the Seahawks are in the same boat.
People are kind of not really don't really know what
to think about them going into this year with so
many new pieces to the team. But I'm with you.
I think Huskies can challenge for that maybe fifth or
sixth spot in the Big Ten.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Oh, I mean, I'm gonna when we have Wilner on
next week, I'm gonna wager with him on the air.
I'll say, I'll place a sizable wager with you, John,
to charity, you know, a charity wager until charity of
your choice. He says, they're gonna be eleventh in the
big ten. I'll go, John, I take anywhere from one
to ten. I'll even give you eleventh. You get eleventh
(29:34):
through eighteenth. I get one through ten, and wherever the
Husky's finished, the winner goes to you know, the winner
gets the charity money.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
So we'll see if he'll bite on that one.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
You think they flirt with top twenty five this year.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yes, I think they flirt with well, in one pole,
they're one spot away from the top twenty five already, right,
so in one pole they beat Weber State, and they're
probably right top twenty.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
And that's the other thing I'm thinking of, Like, I
can't remember a year of Husky football where the first
game of the year actually means this much like, yeah,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, I've been excited for a first game, right, yes, exactly,
you know, I know. He just compared to like like Michigan,
for example, Michigan.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Lost a ton, right, a ton, And.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
They lost Jim harbaughd just like we lost Calendibor and
their ninth because they're Michigan, yes, right, And and I
think Washington deserves a little bit more respect. And I
don't think Washington's gonna, you know, they're not gonna do
anything close to what they've done the last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I understand that.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
But there's no reason they shouldn't win the last five games,
first five games of the season. There's just no reason
that they shouldn't. They are just a better football team
than all the first five teams they play. And then
can you squeeze three out of the last seven.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
That's gonna be the big question I think for this year.
It's like, can you do any sort of close to
five hundred the second half of the year, which absolutely yeah, yeah,
absolutely successful Sea.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
We'll talk a lot.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Of Dogs football coming up next weekly, up to the
Weaber State game. But first and foremost, we've got textimonials
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