Softy & Dick 1-26 Hour 2: Bonta Hill, Coaching Carousel, Textimonials

In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Bonta Hill of 95.7 The Game in San Francisco about Sunday’s NFC Championship against Detroit, update the NFL coaching carousel and Seattle’s coaching odds then listen and react to some texts.

Episode Transcript

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And the Crack of the Knight.Speaking of Everett fits here. The Crack
in twenty eighteen to nine, fourpoints out of a wildcard spot. They
will host the team that's directly infront of them in the wildcard standings,
the Saint Louis Blues Tonight, seveno'clock face off, six to thirty pre
game right here on ninety three threeKJRFM. By the way, speaking of
Everett, he'll join us at six' ten to night. I'm serious about
getting this guy off the year OnSunday, dude, he's the voice of

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the Kraken. He's at Motor CityNative the Kraken on Sunday Nights are playing
at six pm at home against Columbus. The Lion Niner. Game goes at
three thirty. That game is goingto be going off. The face off
will be literally right smack in themiddle of the fourth quarter, if not
the start of the fourth quarter.How the hell is he gonna do this

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on Sunday night? He needs toget a day off. Let let Betton
call the game. Call it.Let the kid have a game. He
did silver Chips right hockey up inEverett. Let Betton have it. Let
Betton have it. Let Betton haveit or get Everett off. Get ever
Oh oh wait, hell yeah,I mean one of those two things has

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to happen. This is crazy.How can this guy be expected to call
the game? I think he's theguy the night all. I think here's
why. I think he should comeon rich. I think he should work,
but I think he should call bothgames at the same time. I
think he should call the hockey game. I think he should have a monitor
going with his beloved Lions, andhe's bringing the boss in this. Actually,

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oh boy, did everyt like thatwe're doing this? Or would he
be aparis that we're doing this?He's a just come here. I think
he'd be embarrassed that we're doing this. Let's see this. Come on in.
We need you on the air.Oh boy, cracking Columbus six pm,
Sunday night, right, Lions Ninersat three thirty. You gotta get
Effett the hell off the call.Man's give me the fourth quarter the Lions.

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You got to give the guy thatthe first period of the call the
game. Come on, what doyou know, lifelong Lions fan, second
time in the history of the franchise, right there in the NFC Championship.
You gotta guy and Mike Benton givehim the night off. Get Everett off.
Are you kidding? That guy hasno soul? He doesn't what soever.

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Not only does he not want himoff, he doesn't even want him
watching the game. He wants towatch it at home. Well, Evertt's
gonna join us at six' tentonight. Do you think if Rich Moore
and the head hon shows that theCrack and Audio Network went to Everett and
say, look, man, ifyou want the night off, we'll give
you the night off and go watchthe Lions. So if you want to

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go to the game, go tothe game. It's in San Francisco,
get your butt down there and watchthe game. Come back on Monday.
You think he'd take it? Youthink he'd take the game off? Yes,
yes he should. There's got tobe a backup plan, right,
every brought Mike Benton. Benton's gotto be the backup plan, right.
Absolutely. Remember I think we wereall at one of our Hit a Stupidity
board meetings when they remember that hada road game and Ian did the play

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by play from here for one Yeah, because they had some issues or whatever.
Well, yeah, I mean Everettmiss there you go. Everett missed
the first ever kracking game because hegot sick and he can call the game.
But I'm telling you, if there'sever a day to give a guy
a break and give him the nightoff. They're playing Columbus, they suck,

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and the game is in Seattle.Give the guy the night off.
Do us a favor? Should Igive out Rich Moore's email on the air?
How about his phone number? I'llgive you his phone numbers number?
Yeah, text Rich Moore right now? All right, No, I wouldn't
do that, but if you knowmy number, text me and I'll text
you his phone number. They gotthey gotta get this guy off the air
on Sunday night, man, becausethat is that is too big a moment
to miss. Man. So we'lltalk to Effort coming up at six'

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ten this afternoon, right here onthe show, coming up with five,
Hugh Millon joins us. We're goinghis thoughts on the conference title games,
his thoughts on the coaching search forthe Seahawks, the the portal situation with
you, Dubbin Moore, and thenLee Stirling at five point forty five tonight
right here on ninety three to threeKJRFM. You said it earlier today that
the Niners Lions is the second andbest game of the day. You think

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Baltimore Kansas City is the best gameof the day. If you if you
just go by spread right what Vegasthinks is gonna happen, You're exactly right.
But I'm also seeing more people predictingan upset by Detroit than I am
Kansas City. Well, I'm lookingall over the web. I'm scouring the
way, even the dark web,and I'm seeing more people picking an upset

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by Detroit. Here's what makes theKansas City game more intriguing. If Kansas
City is down by ten with sevenminutes left to go in the game,
you legitimately have hope that Patrick Mahomescan overcome a ten point deficit and win
the game. If the the Ninersare up by ten on the Lions with
seven minutes left, that game isdone over. I'm just completely over going

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frustrated by your anti Lions. Baltimowill agree with me that is over.
Of course, San Francisco's up byten would agree with you. He's a
Niner homer. Yeah, but heloves brock Purty too, which is come
off he's got his head halfway upShanahan, which is unbelievable that he can
pull it out to do the radioshow with us right now from the game
in the Bay Area. Our guyBunta the Thrill Hill with us on the

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show. Where you've been, man, what's going on? It's been upset
Ahead's ass. That's where my head. Yeah, hey, you know what
guy's talking about. You know what, I don't blame you, By the
way, if I were you,I'd have my head so far up his
backside. I'd be smelling his eyesockets fire. You well, you know
what city got it. We gotsome people down here in our fan base

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is out of control right now.Last week they were so confident. This
week they're worried about the lions orkittens, whatever you want to call them.
But shait Ahead, somebody told mesomething and I won't bust them out.
I won't say who it was,but they basically said, you know
what a Shitahy loses his title game, do you go out the Belichick.
I'm like, do sluts of senseit to yourself. No, we're not
going after belowchick. Come on,man, this guy's been here for seven

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years. We stunk when he gothere. We're an expansion team. All
we've done is been the four andthe last five inn c chips. I
know that Lombardi choke me. Helose us. It made me lude us
again. This heasy because Bostimore aKansas City both looks strong on the other
side. Even if the Niners wereto get past this game. But they're
not gonna find any better coaches thanKyle Shanahan. Man, that would be
idiotic. So he's done a goodjob, although he got a little tight

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last week, got a little tight. But you know what, I'm okay
with Shanahan being the head coach ofthe Niners. Are you one of those
people that subscribed to the reason thatthe offense struggle last week was because Deebo
was out a little bit? Butawesome. I'm sitting there at the game
and I'm thinking, boy, McCaffrey, at least even teen carries. Boy,

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it'd be nice to give number twentythree to football. Wow, why
are we dropping back so much?Steve Bow's out and brought Purty throws thirty
nine passes. I thought Shanahan gottight. I thought Perty was out of
rhythm. And I think both ofthem maybe I don't know what happened there,
but when Darnel Savage dropped that easypick six that would have pit the
Packers up ten nothing, I thinkShanahan got a little tighter. I think

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Party got a little tight. Hewas afraid to make a mistake the manager.
It was awful at the end ofthe first half by shed Ahead enters
a situation where it's he lets,he lets forty seconds, he laughs off
the clock. It didn't he burtsa tie out on the third and one
instead of just getting the first half. It hadn't burted a tie out.
I mean, it's just it wasa best So, yeah, debout getting
hurt. But you got Brandon Ayuk, you have Christian McCaffrey, you have

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Georts Kittle running down the sieves.That's still excuse. So yes, Deebo
hurts. There's a lot of thingsyou can't do without. Deebo said you
on the field. But that hada lot more to do with this debo
being hurt. Man. It wasO shed Ahead and Party. They were
very sub parked three quarters last week. Disagreed. Ben bought the hell from
the game. And I'm not sayingthis to be a smart ass. I
mean, I am a smart ass, but I'm not saying it to be

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a smart ass. You realize thatnobody outside of the Bay Area is rooting
for you guys, like the entiretree is rooting for the Lions. Can
the Niners actually use that as fuelyou think for this game? Absolutely,
It's always been the Bay Area againsteverybody. You know, we had this
basketball team that won four championships fornine years to go to Saint Warriors,
And I'm sure everybody rooted against afterCurry and to go to Saint Warries because

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they thought we broke basketball to meetKevin Durrant, wanted to come here to
the Bay Area, live life,to get a championship or two. So
we're used to this. We're accustomedto this. None of that notice to
us, though. They gotta cometo Levi Stadium, they gotta come to
the Bay Area at three point thirtydoth setting and they got to hear from
the forty nine Air Empire. We'renot worried about what the resignation digs.
We're already knowing the resident nation arefull of haters. We hear the rhetoric

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Abob Rock thirty, We hear allto talk about college Shad. We've been
hearing it for years and it startedwith our basketball team out here, So
we don't really give it down withthe nation. Go ahead, root for
the love of the losers, goahead. They probably can't Dave fight Detroit
Lions. Well, before you canreally have haters, you have to do
something other than losing in the NFCChampionship game, right, I mean,
you've got some, but it's notlike it's not like you have like a

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dynasty rolling here or anything. Notyet. I mean, the NFC West
is ours, but we're the SuperBowl Division. We don't care about the
NFCY West. I mean, that'sthat's the JV League, right of VCA,
the Revs, the Cardinals. Imean, you we got you guys
in our back pocket. We're notworried about you guy. You know,
you guys don't even have a coachyet. We're hoping, we're praying that
you guys hired day Quai. Bythe way, oh my god, I

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wis the board automatically before the seasonstarted. But you know what, you
know, you're right. We havechoked. We've come up short, and
part of it is shit ahead.Now they could all play the quarterback called
Jimmy Garoppolo, But who picked thequarterback Kyle Shanahead. You got a chance
to move off with Jimmy Garoppolo aboutwhat not twice, but three times,
and he still couldn't do it.So, uh, we have coming up

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short if they lose this game.Trust me, we're talking to ab Reid
to Philadelphia. This would be catastrophicto lose this jempionship game because, as
you guys know, this window callsits quickly in the NFL. You lose
this one, all of a sudden, the Rams are better next year,
Seattle's better next year. Arizona's gonnatry to get their act together. You
got the NFC East with those bombsin Philadelphia, but they're gonna try to
get their act together. Detroit isonly getting better and better. Green Bay

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is only getting better and better.So you can't blow this opportunity. All
we wanted was one seed. Howwe wanted was home through the Vintage.
How we wanted was the bye week. So we got all that make it
happen and get to Las Vegas.Yeah, that that house of horrors known
as Levi Stadium where there's a signabove the urinal in the men's room in
the press box that says don't drinkthe water, and that's a that's a

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true story, by the way,and bought the nose because he's seeing the
sign. I don't know, man, you're sounding kind of nervous to me.
I mean, I've known you fora while, though, you're sounding
kind of defensive, a little standoffish, a little prickly. Here are you
nervous about this game Sunday? Thoughhe listen, Dick knows me, well,
it's off to do we well,you know, I never scared scared
go to church. I'm brady togod. I'm thinking about where a eye

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black. I've been full fan mode. I want to kick their ass so
bad. I'm tired. I hadto deal with all these calls for bot
old fan base, the Fortyard fanbase, bin old co holes. I
don't know, man, I hatetheir lives this and didn't like when I
was talking about the lives in October. Everybody was laughing at me. Oh,
you don't take Dick seriously, notto send everybody shook up. Nah,
Man's this is gold time. Thisis what we live for. You

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don't get these games in your backyardevery single year. You got to cherish
these moments. If you take JaredGoff, who grew up an hour away
from the Blacks on traffic, JaredGoff, he's gonna come into Levi's stadium.
Yes, it beat up the DetroitLives come to Levies on this grass.
Yes, they're not coming here towin, not coming out of there
with Jared Goff. Jared Goff andhis hot fiance are gonna walk in there

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and rip that trophy right out ofyour hands. What what doesna Softy,
You were in the same division withJared Goff, You ain't worried about Derek
Goff. Come on something right,But like said, what what does concern
you about this Lion team? Comeon, well, I'll tell you what.

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First down passing, right, theypassed sixty percent of time by first
out of the diner Secretary has beena little bit every Timas is just unplayable.
But you got no choice. Theother option is Isaiah Oliver, who
is probably slower to saw right.I mean, you can't play them in
the secondary against these wide receivers.So first down passing, can you limit
the lines off first down? Becauseif you keep them out of second ad
manageable and want to be by thatsecond of five, second and six,

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second and four. You take awaytheir run game. They love to throw
the ball off first our first down, throw the ball off first down,
and they get about six to sevenand they sink. You know, oh,
second and four, we're running thirdand four, we're running hell fourth
to one. We're gonna go forit and run. Their running game is
legit. Jamier Gibbs and David Montgomery, they're physical and to be they're kind
of built like the Niners, theway Liz and Chenaheille built. Third roster
Dan Kembl Bradhols have done the samething in Detroit. Bullies, physicality,

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intensity, run into football, takecare of the football. So you don't
want to get their run game starter. You want to keep them one dimensional,
which is if they're gonna have topass it all day, then I'll
live with that and hopefully we canjust impress run the quarterback. But first
down is gonna be vital. Iknow, third downs the money down to
the NFL. They'll get me wrong, but first out, what does Detroit
do on first down? If they'regetting chuck plays and chuck yards on first

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down, it's gonna be a longday for this, d fits all right,
We're gonna find out if you're shootingstraight with us right now with the
answer this question. How many quarterbacksBonta in the NFL could have the success
brock Purty is having right now withthose weapons and Kyle Shannon Definitely not Geno
Smith? Why definitely not Geno?No? Why definitely not Drew Locke?
What? Why? Why take thatshot? Right? Why? Because you

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know, Dick, Dick, howowes you that one? We're coming on
my show, coming on my show? Now? Well, you know we
have with that? How many Ihad to take that shot? How many?
That's fine, that's fine. Ifyou don't want to include Geno,
that's fine. Man. How manyare you going to include? Twenty twenty
thirty two? One? At least? Did at least did Josh Allen Mahols,
Lamar Jackson. I'm not sure aboutJared Goff. Honestly, I'm not

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sure about Jerakoff. I don't knowif he's a quarterback in this system,
in this scheme. Look, brockPurty, you could say, hey,
he's a game manager. I don'treally care about that. Dot six.
I watched Nick Willers in the system. I watched C. J. Bethard,
I watched Ebi Garoppolo. Perty's beenin all of them. Now I
would say Trey Lance, but couldbe quite honest, I don't know what
Trey Lance is. We saw itfor three days and Blueby was gone,
got a broken egg because Shanahan wasrunning up like fullback. So look,

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brock Perty's had a great year.He's done some things in forty Natters history.
I know what the quarterback has done. I mean breaking a franchise record
for passing yardage in a season.The same franchise that had Joe, had
Steve, even had Jeff Garcia,who a lot of people laugh at,
but it was very good Niner quarterback. Look, you can make me five
tight quarterbacks on this planet that couldplay in the system. You can't.
But you know what you have togive brock Party for credit for executing getting

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the ball to the playmakers and playthe mistake free football. Brock Perty's a
hell up the story. Now weran intel, We got lucky By get
no no doubt about it. ButI'm not sure there's one to take quarterback
who could play in the system.Yeah, play at the count two when
Tommy DeVito would win this game byseventy with this night. All okay,

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all right, Bonte Hill from thegame, great stuff. What are you
doing for the game on Sunday?You got like does your station carry the
games or is that somebody else?No, that somebody else. But we're
still kicking their ass despite they'll bein the flash kick. So you know
what I'm doing. Oh, I'mgoing to the game. I'll be there.
You know, I've got I've givenup the media credential and that Boss
season tickets a couple of years agofor the family. You know, my

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girl and my daughter day love card. Even though the daughter is staying back
for this one. We can't you'rethree, baby. We can't be running
up and down the stairs at Gordonevery freaking place. So she's gonna stay
at home with the grandparents. I'llbe down there in about eleven eleven thirty
because I got to see what's upwith Lamar and in Patrick Mahomes. I
can't miss that game. And bythe way, don't call me if the

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Niners do win, because we'll bedirvous for the Super Bowl. In the
Super Bowl, Oh my god,I get. I get not bringing her
daughter to the game though. OnSunday. I would not want her to
watch them lose either. Man,So I get all right, hat have
fun, but don't have too muchfun. Go Lions, baby, We'll
talk to make sure to send youa text, Softie. Did you know

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where to find me? I'm gonnahut you guys up, man, You
just a magic you two guys.You guys have had it bad. You
lost in Michigan, you lost yourhead coach. You don't have a coach
with the pro team, and nowyou're gonna have to talk about the Nagers
for two weeks going to the SuperBowl Las Vegas. I'm sorry, I'm
sorry. Your phone's breaking up.We can't hear you. What was that?
What is he still with us?Do we still have him? We've

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got a break a lot more thanthat dude coming up and we lost him.
I've known anywhere at bomb I'm ninetythree three KJR FM. This is
your home for the Huskies, theKraken, the NHL Playoffs and Super Bowl
fifty eight. Sports Radio ninety threepoint three kJ r FM. Now back
to sufdimdo we're down the field,our team that will not see and window

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blue and everywhere stand in to theraid. Wow. Wow, wow hard
when the yay we're minor, youwill beat your fair down the fielding game.
Oh, Lions be totally Lions.Wow. At first I thought that

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was like an afterschool special. Isthat might have been? Is that they're
legitimate? Like team sanctioned theme songGuyana's Basement that did that twenty five years
ago? And no, we didit on radio, something we pulled off
of YouTube. Is is that everfits you? It might be We'll play
that forever when he comes on theair at six' ten tonight and ask

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him about that. So oh man, well, Lions and Niners Sunday Chiefs
Ravens Sunday Chiefs Ravens on FM.We got Lions and Kansas excuse me,
the Niners over on the AM sidebecause the crack and Hockey again ever fits
you, is being forced against hiswill to call the cracking game on Sunday
because rich Moore will not let himhave the day off to watch his beloved

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Lions play the championship game on Sunday. Anybody here ever needs a favor,
do not ask mrich More because youwill not get it. That's right,
never, ever, ever, EVERMI the only one who actually thinks that
ever would choose is to stay anddo his duty and be the Well ask
him, well, first of all, what's he gonna say, right,
you think he's gonna go on theair and say I would leave the Kraken

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job to watch the life. Heshould say that. Yeah, you'd be
like, yeah, you know what, I'd rather not be doing the game.
Nobody would blame him for that,right. I mean, guys,
I admitted to you last year Iwanted to skip the Washington Arizona game to
watch the Mariner game against the Astrosin Game three, and I don't feel
bad about doing it. I skippedthe I skipped out on the Husky Arizona

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game and went into the zone andwatched the Mariners on the big screen down
there. Well, I saw whereour buddy hawk blogger. And I never
thought this was an issue to beginwith. But I mean, he makes,
I guess a decent point. Butthat Sharon Moore getting the Michigan job,
I guess would take Mike McDonald offthe list at Michigan. He's a
former Wolverine coach, he was there. I never thought McDonald was gonna get

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the Michigan job because I think MikeMcDonald's next next gig is a head coach
in the NFL, not a headcoach in college. I don't think he'd
won. And no, but thatwas the winner of your poll, right,
Mike McDonald the pole you sent outyesterday, I believe. Let's get
an updated I was forty five percent, Mike McDonald thirty five percent, Ben
Johnson fifteen percent, quit in fourpercent. Slow. Now, if you

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look at the odds from our goodfriend Jimmy Shapiro, who sends us these
goofy odds from Ben online? Ishe really our good friend? Though he
is, the only reason I hearfrom him is when he wants something I
never hear from him. Hey,how are you? How you doing?
I've been in his fantasy here fortwenty five years, as your wife doing.

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Then you have a different relations chokingred with j Can fine that he's
a better buddy with you than Fine? Go ahead? So his odds here
would concern the average Seahawks fan.All right, let's start with commander's next
head coach odds. All right,second place is Dan Quinn at five to
two. The first place Ben Johnsonat minus one thousand. You would have

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to bet one hundred dollars to winten dollars. They really think that Ben
Johnson is going to be the nextcommander's head coach now for the Seahawks.
This would concern you as well,at least those that have voted on the
poll. Boomeris Sias And by theway, just real quick, you said
two days ago that the commanders aregonna hire Ben Johnson. Kay, well
he might be right, you go. Dan Quinn won the five minus five

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hundred, followed by Mike Vrabel attwo to one, and then Bobby Slowick
at nine to one. So they'reheavy heavy odds according to this. Now,
can you bet these? I don'tknow how does anybody know that?
Though? Right? Those odds thatyou're giving us, well, what are
those based on? Honestly? Becausethat's does some bookie have a relationship with
Schneider? Do these odds makers knowpeople inside the Hawks organization? They're calling

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people getting intel. I think they'rejust making this crap up to get you
to put some money down and toget us to advertise bet online on the
radio for free, which you justdid. I just did, Sucker,
You're welcome, h I just thinkin the end I'll I'll tell you what
I told you yesterday, and hewas gonna join us at five. There's
no real leader in the clubhouse forme, and there's no real turd in
the clubhouse for me either. Iguess if they hired Patrick Graham right away

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from the Raiders or Mike Kafka fromthe Giants, that'd be like whatever.
But the other guys just kind ofthrow them all into one big bucket and
just take one. Well, thebig concern I have with dan Quinn is
who's the offensive coordinator? For sure? Head coach? I mean, are
you just gonna grab because it seemslike Pete Carroll has just grabbed guys for

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twelve years. Right, he poppedwith Bradley, But you know what's Bradley
done as a head coach? Nothing? But that doesn't make him a bad
defensive coordinator. Dan Quinn was goodother than that, of all the offensive
coordinators and the rest of the defensivecorners is just been a bag of y.
Right Yeah, well, okay,so if you hire an offensive coach,
you gotta find a defensive coordinator,right. I mean, can't we

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just flip it around and say thatthat concern is the same if they hire
Ben Johnson, or they hire BobbySlowick. If they hire Vrabel or Quinn,
who's the offensive coordinator. If theyhire Slowick or Ben Johnson, who's
the defensive coordinator. Either way,these guys are gonna have to bring somebody
pretty damn important with them, thoseodds who knows what they have behind them,
and sometimes Vegas knows about certain things. Sure, I would just kind

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of read the tea leaves for amoment of this situation right now. Seattle
could have very easily hired Rabel orDan Quinn or one of those other guys
that hired. So why didn't thelast why didn't they guys are waiting for
Ben Johnson or Mike McDonald's exactly.And number two, the whole thing was,
we talked about this a couple ofdays ago. They were not they're

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not allowed to talk to Mike McDonaldduring this process coordinators. Some coordinators can
interview with teams. But because theSeahawks let go of Pete Carroll the Wednesday
after the season ended, that wasthe three days they needed to say,
hey, Baltimore, we want tointerview Mike McDonald. They didn't do that.
Thus they have to wait to theend of the playoffs, which is
kind of Donald is done. Butthey should have known that, well they

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should if those are the rules,right, the the the parameters that you
explained. If those are the rules, how did they not get to a
point if they really want Mike McDonaldor they could have made a move with
Pete where they could have spoken tohim before the season ended. My taking
a wild guess is that Jody andwhoever made that decision John, that whole

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group that took a few days tofigure out should we move on? But
by the time they figured that outon Wednesday, it was two weeks.
And now they're just waiting till theseason is over and then they can for
Baltimore and then they can talk aboutMcDonald more. In your theory, would
I would buy that? And Iwould buy it because it's Pete Carroll,
right. I mean, if youreally need a couple of days to figure
this out, maybe they thought Sundaynight after the Cardinal game, right that

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they could do something. Then theygot together and he was saying this stuff
and then whatever you got to figureout. First of all, if you
are ready to ditch the greatest headcoach in Seawk history, and if you
need a couple of extra days tomake the right call on that transaction,
I'm okay with that. At first, I thought they were just trying to
do the Huskies as solid and notfiring Pete Carroll four hours before the Huskies

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played in the National Championship game.And how I mean, how dirty would
that have been? I haven't eventhought of that. How dirty would that
have been? At three pm thatday? Say, we have a press
conference too with a major announcement twohours before the kickoff of the Husky game.
So when did they have to fireCarroll to get to talk to McDonald?

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They needed to do it on Tuesday? On Tuesday, then why not?
Why not whack them Tuesday morning?I mean, look, I totally
understand your point. That would havestunk right for them to fire Pete Carroll
before the Husky Michigan game. Idon't know if they really think about stuff
like that, or if they shouldthink about stuff like that. I mean,
what would it have done? Wouldhave been less eyeballs on Washington,

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Michigan? Would you have been concernedmore so at that point in time where
your heart about to explode out ofyour chest that the Hawks just fired Pete
Carroll. I think there have beena lot of people on social media going,
geez hawks. I mean, you'regonna you're just yank in the front
page away from the run when you'vedominated the front page for much of the
last thirty years, you're yanking itaway from the dogs. That that would

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have been a bad look for sure, And maybe they thought about that,
maybe they didn't, But I thinkJackson's exactly right. You want Rabel or
dan Quinn. You could have madethat move already. There's guys out there
that either A you can't talk toor B or both of them are still
playing, and you gotta wait andsee what the season looks like. And
if you want Ben Johnson or MikeMcDonald, I don't know about you,
and I would not allow one ortwo games to really influence me that much.

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But if you're telling me that,you can wait if you want,
and you can see how Ben Johnsondoes on Sunday, and you can see
how Mike McDonald does on Sunday.Interesting you can wait and get another piece
of data to chew on before youmake a decision. But again, it's
kind of like Holmgren said, Imean, are you really gonna base your

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decision on one game. Now,it's a huge football game. It's the
biggest game they've ever coached, bothof them. Don't get me wrong.
I'm not saying they base it onthat one game. But would you like
to wait? If you can wait, would you like to wait? I'd
like to I would like to makeinfluence me one way or the other,
but I'd like to wait. Iwould like to wait if I wasn't competing
against anybody, but I'm competing againstthe Washington Commanders. There's one team left

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that also needs a head coach.If I wasn't competing, if I was
the last team and Mike McDonald BenJohns are out there, but I'd wait
another week. Well, I mean, what if you're okay with either one
of them? What if they're oneA and one A, right, I
mean, I'd love to know.I would love to know. To do
a hard knock style episode on what'shappening behind the scenes at the vMac right
now and get all fascinating. Areyou kidding me? Millions of people would

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watch that. It's stupid, We'regonna break text the audios and then hume
Millin, who is not stupid joinsus at five coming up on ninety three
to three KJRFM, Coming to youlive from the Elliott m in the studios
of Sports Radio Key Jr. Thisis textimonials. It's day, take it
away, Dave Softy Muller and Dickfig alrighty here well in joining us on

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the radio show coming up at fiveo'clock tonight. I cannot believe it.
Get his thoughts on the games thisweekend to see how coaching search the transfer
portal Jed Fish, Everything happening atyou? Coming up with five ever fits
you at six' ten before thecrack and take on the Blues four nine,
four or five one. Textimonials onthe Telemardu texta line when it's game

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time, it is indeed Tully time, Jackson, What do you go?
Do not care if the NBA returnsor not? Wow? All right,
there's one that says I could notcare less. Keep going, Jackson,
go ahead. It's not the samegame it was in those days. No
defense, shoot the three as thebuzzer sounds, no strategy or anything.
All right, we're oh for two? Is there one more in this category?

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Jackson? Minute? I'm thirty fiveLove the Sonics watch during play a
key arena in my senior year ofhigh school. All right, so I
think that we're kind of one forthree and Dick Fane's head is about to
explode with that last. Nobody playsdefense comment in the NBA anymore. It's
not the same game as it wasback in nineteen twenty when I watched a

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game in Lexington, Kentucky with peachbaskets. It's changed since then. How
dare they it's a complete lazy man'sare Oh yeah, twenty twenty two points
per game one and eleven on average, nineteen eighty four points per game on
average one hundred and eleven. Ohso they didn't play They didn't play d

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during a Elijauan era either. Youdon't know what you're talking about, Charles
Barkley and beginning of Jordan era.Then we shouldn't play defense then either.
They scored the amount of playing yourgame in the same amount of minutes,
but they didn't play any defense.Now, but they did. Then you
know why he's looking at you.I tell you why, because he knows
that you have multiple texts that camein supporting the NBA, and you chose

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to play a one text that wouldpiss him off, and he knows it.
You want to go through the textline, No, not really,
what's next. The Kronkin was brandnew. The Sonics fans because what happened
are soundurd on the NBA, andbecause of that, will not be as
eager to get zease and tickets.I tell you, look, I mean,
I don't. I don't believe that. For me, I'm just I'm

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very curious, that's all. I'mI'm very curious to see what kind of
appetite there is for the return ofthe NBA when the NBA does come back.
He is right in some ways thatthe Kracken was a novelty, but
you know what, the Sonics havebeen gone so damn long. It'll kind
of feel like a novelty when theytell anybody that's under thirty that's for suss
Any any detractor to the NBA willbe completely drowned out by a massive wave

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of green and gold that will befired up beyond belief. You're not buying
anything from the Peanut Gallery that isremotely critical of the NBA today, the
way the game is played. Anynegativity that's brought on by the text line,
about the NBA. You're not willingto hear or accept any of that.
Yeah, right, are the peoplethat are complaining about lack of defense

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or such? Do they actually sitand study NBA basketball or do they watch
the highlights or completely boycott NBA basketballand then just use the straw man's lazy
man's argument that there's no defense inthe NBA and it's a different You need
to be a favorite. Can youget him the phone number of that person

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that texted in and have Dick callhim and then they can talk directly.
It's absolutely worth your tie. Iwould love to hear that when you love
to hear that conversation. Hey,schmuck, Oh it's fain just texting the
show. All right, what's next? Michael Pennix was not hit for two
years. Let's see if he stayshealthy facing NFL pass rushes with the worst

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line, Well, what whne doeshe go into? Right? I mean
that's the key. If he comesto Seattle, he's not playing behind the
worst line. It's not playing behindthe best line, but not the worst
line in the NFL. And Ithink again, what Michael Penix did against
the Texas and that Sugar Bowl andI'm not even talking about just the secondary.
I'm talking about Murphy and Sweats spinningaround like a ballerina, right,

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just maneuvering design run like the matrix. That, to me, is even
more impressive. What Jackson's talking about, ducking do was left. Ducking do
is right, spinning around a fadingpressure. That is, if I'm a
scout and I was holding out forsomething, That's what I was holding out
for. What I saw in thatgame against Texas. It was the last
piece of evidence I needed to solidifymy thought that Michael Pennix is a mid

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to low first round draft pick andis going to be a really good start.
I'm not gonna say pro bowler areall pro or Hall of Famer.
He's gonna be a really solid starterin the NFL. I do think Gino
would feel if they drafted Michael Pennocks. I think he'd be all right,
They could be cool with. Ithink you'd be because it really signals the
end of him, right, he'sthe starting quarterback and so yeah, look
at the deal you signed, dude, No, I know that right.

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They gave Gino his bag, sohe got his bag. You think you
think he's cool with that I gotmy bag. I'm good and he'll get
paid. Gino will be a reallygood backup, probably for four or five
more years. You just promised meif they do draft Michael Pennix, we
can keep playing this. Yes,and I can keep doing this every time
we play that that we're good onradio. I know, I'm and I

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really hope they draft him, especiallyif they somehow can get him in the
second round. Only way he won'twork out his injury. Well, look,
I that's a problem for everybody,right, I mean that's not specific
to Michael Pennix. I mean everyquarterback has a problem with injuries in the
NFL. You got play hurt andI think he did that. So look,
I mean, I'm I'd be firedup for it. I'd be nervous,

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like I said earlier, because Iwant his reputation as a player to
be pristine in this town. Andif he comes to the Seahawks and struggles,
my nervous energy about me is that. But would feel differently about him.
But hey, what the hell,don't worry about that crap. Go
out there and spin a baby.Can I add one more thing to for
this? You aren't built for this? He had one more thing to my
NBA argument. Go ahead, allright, so I mentioned I mentioned one

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hundred and eleven points and eleven elevenpoints in nineteen eighty four in twenty twelve.
That being said, in twenty twelve, the average three point field goal
percentage in the NBA was thirty sixpoint one percent. In nineteen eighty four
it was twenty eight percent. They'rescoring the same amount of points but shooting
way better, which means the defenseactually could be considered better now than it

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was then. You know what,I think you've done it. The guy
that texted in, I think he'sprobably sitting there going you know what,
Dick's right. I didn't think aboutthis very well. Dick's right. Dick
is right. There's no shot.He's thick on that right. Now,
what's the next? Why aren't MichaelPennox and willm Odins being more vocal supporting
Fish in the school would help recruitingin the portal? Yeah, I've waited

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to hear from rom Odens. Idon't know where he is. By the
way, Roma Dunes has there beenwho is the CJ. Stroud came out
and said he's giving money to theOhio State collective. You saw that,
right, ye, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we have
not heard a lot from the explayers on this team that are all moving
on to the NFL. Right.Maybe it's because they're concerned about the NFL.

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They got bigger fish to fry rightnow. But it'd be nice to
hear some of these guys, Iguess come out and support the fishman Fish.
Yeah, but I don't think theywant to come out on social media
and say that their former teammates shouldstay at the University of Washington because I
think they believe in players' rights thatshould be able to transfer anywhere they want.

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They want to come out, andthat's not what they're saying me coming
out and saying, Hey, Italked to coach Fish. He's a great
guy. You're gonna love him.That's not telling everybody else to stay in
school. That's just saying we lovehim. What the hell, rom Mike,
come on, man, let's go. What's next. You guys should
Everett's flight to San France and presentthat after Richmore gives him the night off.

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Yeah, he won't do it.He will let him off. We
already talked to the break and hewas on the air so we can save
the money for the airfare. RichMore is on record saying that Everett fits,
you should shut his mouth and suckit up and call the game on
Sunday because the Lions are gonna gettheir ass kicked anyway. That's exactly what
he said. How about it?And I'm lying. What percentage would you
believe Everett if he called rich atone o'clock in the afternoon on Sunday and

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said, Rich, I can't goman, I'm sick. I think I
got COVID, I'm sick. Imean, what are you gonna do?
What are you gonna do? Whatare you gonna do? And then Evert's
on a flight to the pay We'regonna break. Hugh Millan's gonna join us,
coming up next right here on ninetythree to three KJRFM.