January 29, 2025 • 37 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Kevin Harlan about Pete Carroll joining the Raiders, the AFC Championship, and Eagles, then the guys preview next Sunday’s Super Bowl plus discuss the Chiefs calls before some Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They are NFL champions.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
The Seattlesyhawks have one Super.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Bowl forty eight.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
The Chiefs and their seventh consecutive AFC Championship game are
gonna go to New Orleans for a third consecutive Super
Bowl appearance.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Another snap, another knee, and the countdown is on.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
The bench is empty and.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
This place is going bananas. Wow, what a call? How
about that?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Kansas City into the Super Bowl for the fifth time
and six And we could not be more pleased and
more lucky to have the voice of Super Bowl fifty nine,
the voice of the NFL on Westwood One, the voice
of the NFL on CBS, the NBA on TNT, and
let's face it, one unbelievable American. Our friend, Kevin Harlan,
how are you, pal?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
How nice? I'm trying to keep up with you. I
heard that highlight from Super Bowl forty eight. I cannot
believe it's been that long for the Hawks. Super Bowl
forty eight. Yeah, I remember it. I remember it well. Yeah,
but that was a great day for them. And how
about Pete Carroll taking the Raider job?
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You surprised by dan? H?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Not really, you know, I mean I think he kind
of quietly behind the scenes wanted to get back in
the game, you know, and was waiting for the opportunity.
Were you surprised by that? Were you surprised that he
went to work for Mark Davis? And now there's rumors
he's talking to Darryl Bevill about being his offensive coordinator.
Who was the play caller in that? About how about that.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And that sum Yeah? Everything is cyclical. I I guess
I'm not surprised. He's a young seventy three, he'll be
seventy four when they kick off the season this fall.
Got more energy than most guys that are twenty thirty
years younger than him. So he's he's proven that it's
not a grind. He's probably as sharp as ever he
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had been with the Seahawks for so long. I don't
care how great you are. And we just saw Belichick
leave New England and other coaches have been long, long
time head coaches at places. I mean, sometimes you just
need a new voice, a new person. I get. That's
that's what that job is. That job is not lifelong security.
That job is a temporary hold on that job and
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somebody else comes in, so I listen, they need a
culture change and the worst way with the Raiders, yep.
And I think he's from that regard. He'll hire a
great staff. He's a loyal head coach. He'll find loyal guys,
good guys, he won't make a mistake with his staff,
and he'll he'll be at the forefront of changing that
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culture with the Raiders, which is a job on there.
That's that's not the third or fourth priority, it's the
number one priority. Might even be the second and third
priority as well.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Well, I think a lot of guys get into football
and just don't know how to say goodbye, right and
Pete Carroll might be one of those guys. And frankly,
I worry about that for you as well. I mean,
you've been doing this broadcasting thing for forty years. Like
when you finally one day give this up, are you
gonna start walking around your house just like doing play
by play of random stuff happening around the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
There's a dog at the door. He's scratching at the door.
He wants in. He's being denied. I'm gonna walk over.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
No.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I We'll kind of continue for a little bit longer,
but we think of it. Yes, I'm still fighting that
cold from last night. But I would I would tell
you as long as it remains enjoyable and you look
forward to the games, I think you keep going. You
never listen. It's a tricky dance when to retire and
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when to keep going. And and some people have worked
their lengths, say you know what I've done all I
can do. I'm exhausted. I've got other things on my
plate and I want to do that. Pete is a
is a football coach, but he's more than that. He's
a culture builder. He is going to an exciting city.
They got a lot of cap space. They got some
pretty good parts already in place. They don't have a quarterback,
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but they seem to have a lot in line. And
think of the coaches in that AFC West Hardball in
Los Angeles, Pete Carroll with the with the Raiders. You've
got Sean Payton who just turned sixty one. He's in Denver,
and Andy Reid's about sixty five, sixty six, sixty five
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years old, and and he is you know, he says
this keeps him young. He said, I just heard him
today talking about coaching these kids. He said, you know,
being around young people is really a cool thing for
a guy that, you know, maybe turned sixty or seventy,
he said, he said, they keep you young. You know,
it's like grandkids. They keep you young. And people like
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in the retirement years moving to college cities because there's
you know, there's that vibrancy of being in a town
that houses a major university and all the different guest
speakers and events they've got coming to that city. It
keeps people young. And I think I think we're all
looking for that, whether you're in your fifties or sixties
or whatever. Yeah, Well, so I can see Carol keeping
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this and enjoying it. It's only a three year deal,
but I think he'll be great.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
No, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Well, Kevin Harlan's with us, and Kevin Sean McDermott is
being kept from a super Bowl by Andy Reid and
Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I mean, it is just amazing.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
You know, Dick and I talked about this Monday, the
story coming out of that game that you called on
Sunday afternoon the highest viewed AFC Championship game of all time.
I'm sure the numbers on radio were also phenomenal around
the count. But this is a Buffalo football team that
has won a playoff game now five years in a row,
and they still have not reached a Super Bowl. That
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is the first time in the history of the NFL
that's ever happened. They've lost to the same team in
four of the last five years, first time that has
ever happened.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So was the story Sunday night for you?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
What Kansas City has accomplished or what Buffalo continues to
fall short of.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Now, until anybody beats Kansas City, They're always going to
be the first thought for me. I honestly, God, I
felt like I did for the Lions. I felt horrible
for the Bills. They've come so close. We all know
which NFL football means in Western New York to those fans,
this team was ready to go. I don't know that
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it was their most talented. I think it was their
best running back team. Allen was playing at an MVP level.
They've had better receivers, their line was intact. I mean,
there was a lot there to like. It may not
have been their best team, but I just kind of
thought that, you know, if we're going to see a
crack in the Chiefs, this might be it. And the
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Chiefs just did not blink. We knew it was going
to be close game, and clearly it was. But you know,
when the Chiefs made a couple of big moves the
last fourth and whatever it was, and the drop pass
by the tight end at the Kansas City thirty five,
and then when the Chiefs got the seventeen yard catch
and run with the short pass out of the batfield
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the Samaji p Ryan to do it, that was the
play they had to stop. And they couldn't stop it
because if Kansas City did not get the first down,
my guesses they would kick the field goal, make it
a six point game and then rely on their defense
for the final whatever it was minute left. But that
was really it. When they couldn't stop that play, game
was over and they were out of timeouts and they
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were not going to get the ball back. And that's
just kind of the way that the Chiefs are smart.
They always use their tight their time out. It's the
right way. They organize the clock the way they they
see it. Their quarterback controls the pace of the game
at the line of scrimmage. He thinks on a completely
different level, I think than any other quarterback playing in
the league right now, and and clearly Reid manages a
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game better than anybody else, so that that's very tough
to go up against. Now, the first thought for me was, now,
the Chiefs are on the doorstep of pro football history
in the Super Bowl era of getting a chance to
win three in a row. And no team, by the way,
has been to five Super Bowls in six years, so
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there's still some incredible milestones ahead of them. And and
I think they've they've kind of embraced that all season long.
They they've they've not shied away from the fact they're
on you know, the cuspop of history. Now they're right
there with their hand on the door to throw it open,
and they got a challenge. But but they've got history now,
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and that's a very powerful thing to deal with.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Well, I guess if you're a Buffalo fan Kevin and
Kevin Harlan with us courtesy of the Emeral Queen, why
should you believe anything will ever be different as long
as Mahomes and Reid are together in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Well, you know, it took a while for Jordan and
the Bulls to get by Detroit and Boston. It takes
some times a while to get past that quote unquote.
Team Kansas City finally did it, and they got by
New England and that dynasty ended. It's just kind of
weird that we've got two dynastic franchises back to back.
(09:38):
That doesn't happen a lot, but it's happened now with
this team. Happened. Of course, we've seen it before, Lakers,
Bulls in the NBA, we had the Pittsburgh Steelers in
the seventies, Packers of the sixties, Niners of the eighties,
and the Patriots, you know, for the first two decades
of the two thousands, and but I don't know that
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anybody thought we would see another dynastic run by a
team up on the heels of a team that basically
control the NFL for twenty years. So that's weird. I
find that, you know, an oddity, and the way the
cap is situated and the way that the parody reigns
in this league. This is not normal, and the Chiefs
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have have maybe changed that that thinking a little bit
with this run. Here's the thing. Mahomes isn't even thirty.
He's going to go to his fifth Super Bowl and
he's the first quarterback to do that under thirty, and
so he's got good years left, maybe as many as eight, nine,
ten years left. So he's not going to any place.
Reid is in good health and wants to continue to go.
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The front office is stable and set ownership is ready.
I mean, I don't know that this is going to
end either, even if they wouldn't win, I don't I
don't see an end. I don't see a period on this.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I'm totally with you. It is unbelievable what they're doing.
It's also unbelievable what has happened to Buffalo. I think
all those emotions can exist at the same time, you
can feel respect for what the Chiefs have done, all
for what they've done, but massive empathy for what's going
on with Buffalo. But I mean the fourth down play
where Alan got stopped, obviously is the one player that's
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getting talked about the most.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
A Kinkaid drop. I guess we can get your thoughts
on that.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
But from your vantage point, as they went to a
commercial break to wait for that call from the officials,
did you and the guys in the booth feel like
Alan had converted?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
How surprised were you by that?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I did think he converted. I thought my vantage point
was who was holding the football beneath his chin strap
against his chest with both arms crossed. He was standing
up and he was trying to force the ball. He
had not hit the ground, and there was still movement.
He was not on the ground. He was standing up,
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and even if he was falling, he was falling on bodies,
so it wasn't like the ball was down. I thought
he had hit the line the game, and so so
that was a surprise. I gotta be honest, and I
think we we jeans Terator said, Yep, he's got the
first down. I think CBS said it looks like he's
got it, and they didn't give it to him. So
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I am surprised. Was surprised by that. And then kinkaid
to dropped that pass, which was a huge play by
the way it went right to his hands. Now, I
know there were a lot of defenders around him. Everywhere
you looked, there was red. But it was a catchable ball,
and quite frankly, big game like that, you've got to
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make that catch. I mean, it would not have been
the greatest catch you would have seen, but it would
have been good. He was on you know, all fours
and and it was a catchable ball, and and that
was big. And then the defense not stopping the Chiefs
on what was a third and sixteen, third and fifteen,
and the Chief's got a seventeen yard catcher run out
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of the running back, you know, with the mistackle on
the sideline. You know, there are a couple of plays
that changed that game. Those are two of them, and
they were both by the Buffalo Bills. Actually three. They
should have had the first down on fourth and one.
It's actually fourth in the maybe the length or half
the length of a football. The drop passed by their
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usually sure handed tight end and then the defense allowing
you know, a first down on a third and sixteen
or whatever it was, and the kid got seventeen and
got the first down, and that was it. That was
all she wrote. The Bills had three chances and they
didn't take advantage of any of the three chances. That's
to go back to my first point about knowing how
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to perform in the biggest moments of the game. That
that pass play to p Ryan. They had that down,
the coverage on the kid downfield, the tight end, their
coverage were surrounding them, and for whatever reason, I think
they got a stroke a good fortune by not getting
the call to go Buffalo's way and not extending that
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drive with the first down plunge by yeah, by the quarterback.
And by the way, all this guy had done all
year long was convert plays like that, So that was
stunning that he could not convert that fourth in less
than the yard.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Well, this this kind of feels like the current version
of Manning Brady back in the day in the AFC.
But we're still waiting for Manning to get Brady, and eventually,
you know, maybe he will, but so far Brady has
been owning Manning Brady being Patrick Mahomes. But Kevin Hardin's
with us and Ken we can talk more about the
Chiefs legacy next week and after Super Sunday. But there's
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been so much talking about the Bills in Chiefs game.
I feel like there's been almost no chatter about the
Commanders in Philadelphia. It was a blowout, obviously, but when
you look at this Eagles roster, do you see a
roster that potentially is built to take down Kansas City
next Sunday.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Clearly they run the ball well two ways. The quarterback
and then Barkley, who who I think is the single
biggest personality after Mahomes, are equal to Mahomes in the game.
The game will evolve around those two players. And the
Chiefs have not been able to stop the run against
the Texans in the divisional run they round. They really
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didn't stop last week cook for the Buffalo Bills on
the ground. So the Chiefs have been susceptible to the
run game and in the regular season I think they
were like twentieth in the league in stopping the run.
And that is the bread and butter that Philly offense.
That's gonna be the first thing that I circle as
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to you know, those numbers that success or non success
I think will really dictate the game. Chiefs defense will
play well. Mahomes will have his kind of game. He
rarely blows it. I saw a weird statistic and I'm
gonna I'm gonna get parts of this wrong, but the
gist of it are there. Down by a score on
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the last possession of a game, and Brady was like
five of twelve, Manning was like four of seven. Mahomes
is seven of seven. Like he's just he is just
wired differently. And that alone gives this team so much confidence.
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And that's the other thing about the Chiefs. They don't blink.
How will Philly react if they're in that kind of situation.
Will they have the call that the quarterback seems to exude.
Will they have the confidence to run the ball not
give up on the run. Can they improve their passing
game a little bit? They've got a better roster than
the Chiefs from one to fifty three. They got some
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real studs on defense. That defensive line is terrific, So
no it. If you're going to pick two teams, these
are the two teams to make it all the way
you're defending champion and the best team I think in
the NFC clearly.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Well, I'll just give you one question on the legacy
factor here, but the goat talk between Brady and Mahomes
has already begun. Is it too early for that? No
matter what happens next Sunday.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
The biggest separation is Brady did it over two decades
and that's not san Patrick won't. And Mahomes is actually
off to a better start. And will he have the
individual numbers Brady's individual numbers are to me in some
like passing yards, like untouchable will will Patrick wins seven
Super Bowl rings and Brady's done it with two different franchise.
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That's difficult. And can you do it over a twenty
year period where there is some you know, some lean years,
some off years in between, and resurrect that and come
back and do that? To me, Brady is still the guy.
But Mahomes is on a path. Should he stay on
this path where he yes, he would be the greatest,
But he's got a couple and he's got to win
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a up super Bowl to get the five. He's got
what he's got right now. But I'm anxious to see
what happens here. He's he is on an incredible pace
for sure. And people thought, we'll never see the likes
of Brady again, And here we are, less than a
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couple of years after he's retired, and we're seeing the
likes of Brady again. Just goes to show you when
you think it will never happen, it can creep up
on you. And that's exactly what has happened with Mahomes
chasing Brady.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, well, Brady maybe the go to quarterbacks, but you're
the go to broadcasters, baby, Kevin Harlan.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, come on, now, come on, come on every Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
You're two kinds.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Turnesy of the Emerald Queen. All right, listen, you got
NBA basketball. What tomorrow? Is that right, Memphis TNT correct, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
The number two and number three teams in the Western Conference.
I mean, you're talking about two outstanding ball clubs. So
I'm looking forward to that. That'll be a lot of fun.
And then I got Illinois and Ohio State nice in Champagne,
Nice on Sunday, Thank you, thank you?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh are you talking about in Champagne?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Are you talking to somebody else here? Talking to somebody else?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Listen? You gotta go. You got stuff to do.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Go go, go, jump on the plane, get your car,
get your first class c gets your upgrade. All right,
get your meal, and we'll talk in a week before
Super Sunday.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
We'll break this thing down next week.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
All right, man, you got it, buddy, you got it.
You got it. Okay, thank right so much.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
You bet.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Kevin Harlin with us, the voice of Super Bowl fifty nine.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
He's got the Memphis game tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
You heard it right there, Illinois, Ohio State for CBS
on Saturday as well. The man is a machine and
never slows down. Kevin Harden with us every Wednesday. We're
gonna break a lot more to get to, including Jim
Boden's comments on the Mariners from yesterday. Oh my, coming
up in the six o'clock hour on ninety three three KJRFM.
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Speaker 4 (20:20):
I'm watching this video, Dick, Dick and I were talking
about this off the air. Jackson Mike Green, who is
a defensive end for Marshall. He had seventeen sacks for
Marshall this last year. There's a video at the Senior
Bowl of him just putting Josh Connery on his ass.
I just put it on Twitter, by the way, on
my Twitter account.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
If you like a little schadenfreude of former Oregon Duck
players that spurred the U dub and went to the
Ducks instead, you might want to watch it. Kind of
works as a metaphor for the Rose Bowl too, by
the way, for the Ducks as well. Getting flattened by
this guy. So check it out. Seven seventeen sacks, yes,
seventeen secks right, I would like him on the seventeen.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Sacks six four two fifty. Well, the thing is Virginia
at seventeen sacks from Marshall last year. Please, Connolly is
supposed to be like a late first round rack.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
He wants to scrub that video from all social media.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Is there? We can scrub it from all social media because.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
He just gets flattened by a guy that's probably forty
pounds lighter than him.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
What is Connory away? You think he's ever three hundred?
Is he ever three hundred? He probably is.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Right first tah blah blah, six four three fifteen.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
According to Wikipedia, Rainer Beach is that right?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Yes, yes he is Rainer Beach and decided to go
to Oregon or they paid him a bunch of money.
Good for him, played well whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Probably as a future in the NFL for sure, But
you're right, if you're him, you'd like that.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Video to just go away at all, big time.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Mike Florio was with us a couple hours ago, and Dick,
you asked about the Chiefs calls that they appear to
be getting, or the people that think they're getting.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
What was the exact question? Again, is the question included
by the way questions? What was the question you asked for?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Let's see you remember your own question well written down?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I've already I don't.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
It was basically the validity to the argument that the
Chiefs are getting calls by the officials the league.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
In recent years, I believe has smeared what should be
a firewall between football business and football integrity. They're so
obsessed with ratings, they're so obsessed with audience. They're so
obsessed with money that at some point the officials are
going to develop a subconscious bias in favor of the
star players the popular teams. So that's how it happens.
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Think about the complicated collection of cells and synapses. They
send a message from someone's brain to their hand as
to why they're not going to have to pull out
a flag in a split second. So I think that
the bias is real, and it can manifest itself and
calls the favor of the chiefs, and maybe at the
end of the day, maybe at the end of the day,
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that's why Jeff Seaman gave in to Patrick, because hulp
Spot favors the chiefs. Semen Spot favorite the bills. And
there's no grants, conspiracy, it's just human nature in action.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
By the way, two things, if your last name was Semen,
would you change your last name?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
It's unfortunate. I'm just the first thing I thought about.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I'm sorry, I just I mean, there's no part I
had my first name, you definitely.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Well, you'd be known as Richard by the way, for sure.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
And then number two, he seems to be thinking it's
a real subconscious deal that they do give the favorable
calls to Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, I think I think it's probably in there.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
I think some some NBA officials definitely did the same
thing in the Kobe Shack run and the in the
Michael Jordan run. I just think it's kind of in
the subconscious, right, you think, Oh, this guy is so unbelievable,
He's got a way to avoid contact. I'm not gonna,
you know, I'm I'm just I'm gonna called the foul
in his favor. Not because you're trying to cheat or
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trying to help them out. You're just kind of in
awe of what you're saying, and they're maybeing on what
they're seeing with.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Like, what's the big story going into the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
It's all about Kansas City, right, Like nobody's talking about Philadelphia,
which is why I think Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I don't know, man.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
I mean, we got ten days left or whatever it
is until the game, and I might bet the Eagles.
I mean, I'm just I'm getting convinced by Harlan, getting
convinced by Millan that this is the team they could
do it. They got the great defensive line, and then
I'll bet the Eagles and I'll feel like a schmuck
on Sunday night when Chiefs win the game.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
But weren't the I mean when they played two years ago,
as I recall, the Chiefs were not as good a
version as the Chiefs that they are now.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Well, they're not as good win total, because they'd never
won fifteen games up until now, but it seemed like
they were more dominant back then that maybe they weren't
playing as because now people are making a big deal
about the seventeen consecutive one score wins, right, and that
wasn't the thing they were. Mean, I gotta look at
them at their schedule, but it kind of felt like
they were maybe a little more dominant back then when
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they played Philadelphia and now they kind of have a
few warts, but they just keep finding a way to
get it done. And look, I mean, Dick, I understand
what you're saying about. You got to have a double
digit lead, blah blah blah. At some point they're gonna
freaking lose. At some point they're gonna lose a game.
When the hell is that going to be? And this
Eagles team, if we really believe in the domination of
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the Linus scrimmage and the running game and the great defense.
If that's everything that you want, then you would take Philadelphia.
But does Kansas City do they just have that magic?
Do they have that talent where it doesn't matter who's
on the opposite side of the ball, they just find
a way to win. I mean the Super Bowl that
they played against Philadelphia, Kansas City won thirty eight to
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thirty five. Right, it was another or a high scoring
three point game. Philadelphia is leading that game twenty seven
to twenty one heading into the fourth quarter, and the
Chiefs scored seventeen points in the fourth quarter and they
won the game. So if they were leading thirty four
to twenty one, would they have found a way to
win the game? If they would have made the Chiefs
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one dimensional, had no choice but to throw the ball,
would they have won the game?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I just feel like if there's ever a blueprint to
beat them, and I don't even know if that exists,
does Philadelphia have it? Do they have what you need
with the great lines, the great running game, the two
great wide receivers, the great secondary. Do they have the
blueprint if one even exists to beat Kansas City?
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Well, the offenses were better for both teams, I mean
Kansas City and Philadelphia. Back in twenty twenty two, that
was number one and number two offense in the in
the NFL. Kansas City average twenty nine points per game
that year, but opponent points per game Kansas City was
actually eighteenth that season.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
So they were Their point differential, by the way, was
plus one twenty seven. Now it's fifty nine, right.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Kansas City won so many more games close this year.
But there so bottom line on Kansas City a significantly
better defense offensive team than they were when they won
that Super Bowl. But it looks to be a significantly
more limited offensive.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Team for Kansas Kansas City. Yeah, but they just keep
finding ways.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I mean, like go back to the fourth down stop
that everybody's bitching about from the Buffalo game. They get
to stop and then two plays later they're inside the
Buffalo twenty five. Well right, just bang instantly.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
I think it's the old line, the old Tiger Woods
line of he knew he was going to beat you,
You knew he was going to beat you, and he
knew you knew that he was going to beat you.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And that is like Sunday in a final round.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
Right, So if you're a stroke up on Tiger with
five holes to play, two strokes up with nine holes
to play.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
All those things came.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Into play, and I get that feeling when I watch
the Chiefs play.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I really don't care what the score is.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
With seven or eight minutes left to go in the game,
I feel like I'm watching and I'm like, I know
that the Chiefs are going to find a way, somehow,
some way to make the plays to win this football game.
And I feel very, very comfortable sitting there as a
Chiefs fan or betting the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yes that I feel that way. Gun to your head
right now? Who wins the game? Chiefs?
Speaker 6 (28:07):
All right, don't put the Eagles, dude, just don't do it.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Five thirty nine. It's now time for safty In Dick's
one with Audio.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Jimmy GA Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Now let's have some fun with audio.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
So Jackson Dick asked me during the break if we're
doing Choose your Own Adventure at six o'clock. What he
really meant was you make the call? How are you
talking about it? I actually love that are we doing
follow the Leader?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I really love that. I always forget the name of it.
I love you and I always forget the name of it.
How do you forget the name of it? We do
it almost every use your own adventure. Oh my god?
All right, a little fun with audio though right here? Ay, Dick,
did you happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Dick?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
On Monday, the Cowboys and Jerry Jones introduced Brian Schottenheimers
their new head coach at the press conference. Jerry, imagine
the owner having to defend the decision to hire a
head coach right in front of the head coach he
just hired.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Now I get my verbial ass kick over needing people
in my comfort zone without this thing being about me
in any way. If you don't think I can't operate
out of my comfort zone, you're so wrong. It's unbelievable.
This is as big a risk as you could take,
as big a risk as you could take.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
No head coaching experience.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I've read where I don't have a pencheont for risk taking.
If you really knew my score sheet, you would see
that I've taken more risk in the last five years
than the rest of my life put together. Let me
say this, I'm sent.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
It when I was a pup.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I have a good background in the makeup of what
a coach is to think that you could make a
decision in an interview. I wouldn't dare have had an
interview unless I talk to many many people.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I don't know, man I Brian may do fine. I
had no idea. We'll have to see on that.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
But I think it's just getting uncomfortable with Jerry Jones now.
It is getting sad with him. And I don't know, man, I,
what do you do?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Like, what do you do if you're his son? What
do you do if your management in Dallas?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
The guy's the owner and he wants control, and he's
never gonna give it up until he dies.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
That's never going away.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Maybe then you're gonna you're gonna be stuck in seven
to ten win Land and until he's no longer the owner.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
I mean, do they do cognitive tests for owners as
well and say you gotta be of a certain mind
to own this thing and they can take it away.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
That was ridiculous Star Trek Captain duty totally.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I mean, I just and I feel bad for Shottenneimer
because the guys sitting there going no coaching experience right
in front of him.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I mean, he's sitting right there. I mean, Jackson, you
get hired, and I'm like, I'm like, man, look at
the risk I just took on this job. This guy
has no idea what he's doing and I'm giving him
a job.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Don't call him stupid, Okay, I mean, is it not
just insanely uncomfortable and kind of rooting for the guy
a little bit?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Ripping? He's really nice. I liked Ryan Alive, he's nice,
really nice.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
I don't know nic guy, but ripping on the Cowboys
used to be a real fun hobby of mine, and
it's not even fun anything.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
It's they're so bad and so poorly run that you
can't even make fun of him anymore.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
It's kind of like the coups, to be honest with you,
like moving on.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
I'm serious, I'm not I'm not being a smart ass,
Like it was okay to bust their balls when they
were in the Pac twelve with us, but then when
they got left behind, it's like, God, it kind of
feel sorry for those miserable bastards until theirs not even
fun anymore. Geez all right, hey, Dick, did you happen
to hear that David, What's that? Dick dan Patrick then
shared his reaction to Jerry Jones taking over Brian Schottenheimer's
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press conference on his show yesterday.
Speaker 9 (32:14):
I've seen a lot of press conferences. That's as weird
as I've ever witnessed a press conference where it became
it was a little bit about Brian Schottenheimer, it was
a whole lot about Jerry Jones. Brian Schottenheimer remembering his
father Marty. He starts to cry and it was like
a nice moment, and then Jerry has to bring up
that he too lost his dad, and then he started
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crying as well.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
He hijacked it and I'm going, did your dad just died?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Jerry?
Speaker 9 (32:44):
No, it felt like Jerry was taken over the Cowboys
as their head coach.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
It really did it.
Speaker 9 (32:49):
Totally does It felt like Brian Schottenheimer wasn't there. Sorry,
it didn't mean interrupt. It does feel like that.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
And it also makes me wonder if anybody really wanted
the job, you know, like, did anybody really want the
cowboy job? Or was working for Jerry Jones just simply
put too much?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I could be I mean, I I honestly thought Dion Sanders.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Would have been an intriguing fit there, I really did,
And I thought Deon Sanders might be able to inject
some life kind of what the Cowboys needed, just some
just some juice, like a lightning bolt, because the Cowboys
have never had a problem having requisite talent to win,
it's just everything else around it.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, I thought would have been good.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I agree would have been fun too, Right, All right, Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that that Husky's head coach
Jed Fish joining John Wilder and John Cakensanald's podcast yesterday
and talked about roster tampering and college football and how
it can be stopped.
Speaker 10 (33:46):
I think it's very easy to stop, but for some
reason it seems like maybe no one's agreeing with me.
But make contracts being something that would be the way
to stop it. Pedalies, you know, make you you know,
lose five scholarships for tampering, lose you know, turn it.
What is the definition of tampering? What does it make
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contracts more than every six months? The only way to
stop tampering is if we have better regulation on whether
or not movement is going to be you know, real
or not real, Like if people people call our players
after every single game they play. I mean, we've I
have players, and what I think certain teams don't realize
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is the relationship you have with your own player is
far stronger than the relationship that somebody thinks that they
have by calling one of our players. So the information
comes back to us all the time until we figure
out it's not allowed.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Then it's going to continue. Do we think he's doing
the same thing though, Jed?
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Then he's calling other players.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Honestly, if he's not, he should I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
I mean, if if nobody's playing fair, I don't think
why should he be the guinea pig.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I don't think Jed's.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Calling players after their games, but I think the Huskies
are probably calling.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Does he have representatives on his behalf? It's Bob Comford, Jed.
You have to fight fire with fire.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
I think Jackson is exactly right till the NCAA is
gonna nut up and take control, which who knows if
they ever will. Why would you be the one guy
that says, you know what, we're playing by the rules. Yeah,
meantime you got no players, great, good for you, you're
playing by the rules. I totally agree with you, Jackson.
Speaker 11 (35:27):
It just doesn't it doesn't make sense to just be
the good guy in this situation. Yes, if you're one
of the I don't know what the percentages of people
behaving correctly versus not, But like, listen, if you're one
of the people who are being the good boy and
trying to say we don't want to get in trouble, well, okay,
the other half of the schools are totally fine opening
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themselves up to trouble, but the clearly at the ends
of the body is doing nothing about this, so you
might as well not be a good boy.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Well, I think this is one of the reasons. And
we talked about turned into a bad boy. We talked.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
We talked about ni L being one of the reasons
that the SEC is falling behind the Big Ten. I
think another one of the reasons the SEC is falling
behind the Big ten is because the SEC was cheating
worse than any other conference and dominating, and now everybody
gets to cheat just as much as the SEC, so
they don't dominate it.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Right, Imagine getting a call from the NC double A,
you've been a naughty bud jed.
Speaker 11 (36:23):
Players, And what I would respond if I was jet fish.
You want to look at me, how about you look
at the rest first, because if you come after.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Me, you better be coming names like Jim Mora did number.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Maybe behind the closed doors he is, didn't Dirt Cutter
call out Oregon exactly for calling their guys?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Has there been any investigation in Oregon about that?
Speaker 5 (36:44):
No? No? No?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Rhode Island basketball coach Archie Miller had a press conference
yesterday where he shared his take on the SEC having
a fifty win rate and conference play.
Speaker 12 (36:57):
I heard somebody say the other day, like, you know,
the SEC's best league in a country, but you know,
in all games they're like fifty four and fifty four.
Somebody said that. I don't know if that's even accurate,
but like, do you know how hard it is in
every league you know, to to win. You know, it's
just hard to win any game.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
It's not even accurate, head coach, just to let you
know that in conference play, all conferences are five unders.
Oh god, conference play because they're playing each other, so
there has to be.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
The same I don't know if that's accurate. I don't
know if that's that's accurate. You know, I got to
be honest with you. I didn't think about that till
you just say you're exactly right. Am I a moron?
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yes,
They are NFL champions.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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gonna go to New Orleans for a third consecutive Super
Bowl appearance.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Another snap, another knee, and the countdown is on.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
The bench is empty and.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
This place is going bananas. Wow, what a call? How
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Speaker 4 (00:56):
Kansas City into the Super Bowl for the fifth time
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Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
How nice? I'm trying to keep up with you. I
heard that highlight from Super Bowl forty eight. I cannot
believe it's been that long for the Hawks. Super Bowl
forty eight. Yeah, I remember it. I remember it well. Yeah,
but that was a great day for them. And how
about Pete Carroll taking the Raider job?
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You surprised by dan? H?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Not really, you know, I mean I think he kind
of quietly behind the scenes wanted to get back in
the game, you know, and was waiting for the opportunity.
Were you surprised by that? Were you surprised that he
went to work for Mark Davis? And now there's rumors
he's talking to Darryl Bevill about being his offensive coordinator.
Who was the play caller in that? About how about that.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And that sum Yeah? Everything is cyclical. I I guess
I'm not surprised. He's a young seventy three, he'll be
seventy four when they kick off the season this fall.
Got more energy than most guys that are twenty thirty
years younger than him. So he's he's proven that it's
not a grind. He's probably as sharp as ever he
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had been with the Seahawks for so long. I don't
care how great you are. And we just saw Belichick
leave New England and other coaches have been long, long
time head coaches at places. I mean, sometimes you just
need a new voice, a new person. I get. That's
that's what that job is. That job is not lifelong security.
That job is a temporary hold on that job and
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somebody else comes in, so I listen, they need a
culture change and the worst way with the Raiders, yep.
And I think he's from that regard. He'll hire a
great staff. He's a loyal head coach. He'll find loyal guys,
good guys, he won't make a mistake with his staff,
and he'll he'll be at the forefront of changing that
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culture with the Raiders, which is a job on there.
That's that's not the third or fourth priority, it's the
number one priority. Might even be the second and third
priority as well.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Well, I think a lot of guys get into football
and just don't know how to say goodbye, right and
Pete Carroll might be one of those guys. And frankly,
I worry about that for you as well. I mean,
you've been doing this broadcasting thing for forty years. Like
when you finally one day give this up, are you
gonna start walking around your house just like doing play
by play of random stuff happening around the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
There's a dog at the door. He's scratching at the door.
He wants in. He's being denied. I'm gonna walk over.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
No.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I We'll kind of continue for a little bit longer,
but we think of it. Yes, I'm still fighting that
cold from last night. But I would I would tell
you as long as it remains enjoyable and you look
forward to the games, I think you keep going. You
never listen. It's a tricky dance when to retire and
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when to keep going. And and some people have worked
their lengths, say you know what I've done all I
can do. I'm exhausted. I've got other things on my
plate and I want to do that. Pete is a
is a football coach, but he's more than that. He's
a culture builder. He is going to an exciting city.
They got a lot of cap space. They got some
pretty good parts already in place. They don't have a quarterback,
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but they seem to have a lot in line. And
think of the coaches in that AFC West Hardball in
Los Angeles, Pete Carroll with the with the Raiders. You've
got Sean Payton who just turned sixty one. He's in Denver,
and Andy Reid's about sixty five, sixty six, sixty five
(04:51):
years old, and and he is you know, he says
this keeps him young. He said, I just heard him
today talking about coaching these kids. He said, you know,
being around young people is really a cool thing for
a guy that, you know, maybe turned sixty or seventy,
he said, he said, they keep you young. You know,
it's like grandkids. They keep you young. And people like
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in the retirement years moving to college cities because there's
you know, there's that vibrancy of being in a town
that houses a major university and all the different guest
speakers and events they've got coming to that city. It
keeps people young. And I think I think we're all
looking for that, whether you're in your fifties or sixties
or whatever. Yeah, Well, so I can see Carol keeping
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this and enjoying it. It's only a three year deal,
but I think he'll be great.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
No, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Well, Kevin Harlan's with us, and Kevin Sean McDermott is
being kept from a super Bowl by Andy Reid and
Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I mean, it is just amazing.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
You know, Dick and I talked about this Monday, the
story coming out of that game that you called on
Sunday afternoon the highest viewed AFC Championship game of all time.
I'm sure the numbers on radio were also phenomenal around
the count. But this is a Buffalo football team that
has won a playoff game now five years in a row,
and they still have not reached a Super Bowl. That
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is the first time in the history of the NFL
that's ever happened. They've lost to the same team in
four of the last five years, first time that has
ever happened.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So was the story Sunday night for you?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
What Kansas City has accomplished or what Buffalo continues to
fall short of.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Now, until anybody beats Kansas City, They're always going to
be the first thought for me. I honestly, God, I
felt like I did for the Lions. I felt horrible
for the Bills. They've come so close. We all know
which NFL football means in Western New York to those fans,
this team was ready to go. I don't know that
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it was their most talented. I think it was their
best running back team. Allen was playing at an MVP level.
They've had better receivers, their line was intact. I mean,
there was a lot there to like. It may not
have been their best team, but I just kind of
thought that, you know, if we're going to see a
crack in the Chiefs, this might be it. And the
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Chiefs just did not blink. We knew it was going
to be close game, and clearly it was. But you know,
when the Chiefs made a couple of big moves the
last fourth and whatever it was, and the drop pass
by the tight end at the Kansas City thirty five,
and then when the Chiefs got the seventeen yard catch
and run with the short pass out of the batfield
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the Samaji p Ryan to do it, that was the
play they had to stop. And they couldn't stop it
because if Kansas City did not get the first down,
my guesses they would kick the field goal, make it
a six point game and then rely on their defense
for the final whatever it was minute left. But that
was really it. When they couldn't stop that play, game
was over and they were out of timeouts and they
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were not going to get the ball back. And that's
just kind of the way that the Chiefs are smart.
They always use their tight their time out. It's the
right way. They organize the clock the way they they
see it. Their quarterback controls the pace of the game
at the line of scrimmage. He thinks on a completely
different level, I think than any other quarterback playing in
the league right now, and and clearly Reid manages a
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game better than anybody else, so that that's very tough
to go up against. Now, the first thought for me was, now,
the Chiefs are on the doorstep of pro football history
in the Super Bowl era of getting a chance to
win three in a row. And no team, by the way,
has been to five Super Bowls in six years, so
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there's still some incredible milestones ahead of them. And and
I think they've they've kind of embraced that all season long.
They they've they've not shied away from the fact they're
on you know, the cuspop of history. Now they're right
there with their hand on the door to throw it open,
and they got a challenge. But but they've got history now,
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and that's a very powerful thing to deal with.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Well, I guess if you're a Buffalo fan Kevin and
Kevin Harlan with us courtesy of the Emeral Queen, why
should you believe anything will ever be different as long
as Mahomes and Reid are together in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Well, you know, it took a while for Jordan and
the Bulls to get by Detroit and Boston. It takes
some times a while to get past that quote unquote.
Team Kansas City finally did it, and they got by
New England and that dynasty ended. It's just kind of
weird that we've got two dynastic franchises back to back.
(09:38):
That doesn't happen a lot, but it's happened now with
this team. Happened. Of course, we've seen it before, Lakers,
Bulls in the NBA, we had the Pittsburgh Steelers in
the seventies, Packers of the sixties, Niners of the eighties,
and the Patriots, you know, for the first two decades
of the two thousands, and but I don't know that
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anybody thought we would see another dynastic run by a
team up on the heels of a team that basically
control the NFL for twenty years. So that's weird. I
find that, you know, an oddity, and the way the
cap is situated and the way that the parody reigns
in this league. This is not normal, and the Chiefs
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have have maybe changed that that thinking a little bit
with this run. Here's the thing. Mahomes isn't even thirty.
He's going to go to his fifth Super Bowl and
he's the first quarterback to do that under thirty, and
so he's got good years left, maybe as many as eight, nine,
ten years left. So he's not going to any place.
Reid is in good health and wants to continue to go.
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The front office is stable and set ownership is ready.
I mean, I don't know that this is going to
end either, even if they wouldn't win, I don't I
don't see an end. I don't see a period on this.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I'm totally with you. It is unbelievable what they're doing.
It's also unbelievable what has happened to Buffalo. I think
all those emotions can exist at the same time, you
can feel respect for what the Chiefs have done, all
for what they've done, but massive empathy for what's going
on with Buffalo. But I mean the fourth down play
where Alan got stopped, obviously is the one player that's
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getting talked about the most.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
A Kinkaid drop. I guess we can get your thoughts
on that.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
But from your vantage point, as they went to a
commercial break to wait for that call from the officials,
did you and the guys in the booth feel like
Alan had converted?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
How surprised were you by that?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I did think he converted. I thought my vantage point
was who was holding the football beneath his chin strap
against his chest with both arms crossed. He was standing
up and he was trying to force the ball. He
had not hit the ground, and there was still movement.
He was not on the ground. He was standing up,
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and even if he was falling, he was falling on bodies,
so it wasn't like the ball was down. I thought
he had hit the line the game, and so so
that was a surprise. I gotta be honest, and I
think we we jeans Terator said, Yep, he's got the
first down. I think CBS said it looks like he's
got it, and they didn't give it to him. So
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I am surprised. Was surprised by that. And then kinkaid
to dropped that pass, which was a huge play by
the way it went right to his hands. Now, I
know there were a lot of defenders around him. Everywhere
you looked, there was red. But it was a catchable ball,
and quite frankly, big game like that, you've got to
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make that catch. I mean, it would not have been
the greatest catch you would have seen, but it would
have been good. He was on you know, all fours
and and it was a catchable ball, and and that
was big. And then the defense not stopping the Chiefs
on what was a third and sixteen, third and fifteen,
and the Chief's got a seventeen yard catcher run out
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of the running back, you know, with the mistackle on
the sideline. You know, there are a couple of plays
that changed that game. Those are two of them, and
they were both by the Buffalo Bills. Actually three. They
should have had the first down on fourth and one.
It's actually fourth in the maybe the length or half
the length of a football. The drop passed by their
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usually sure handed tight end and then the defense allowing
you know, a first down on a third and sixteen
or whatever it was, and the kid got seventeen and
got the first down, and that was it. That was
all she wrote. The Bills had three chances and they
didn't take advantage of any of the three chances. That's
to go back to my first point about knowing how
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to perform in the biggest moments of the game. That
that pass play to p Ryan. They had that down,
the coverage on the kid downfield, the tight end, their
coverage were surrounding them, and for whatever reason, I think
they got a stroke a good fortune by not getting
the call to go Buffalo's way and not extending that
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drive with the first down plunge by yeah, by the quarterback.
And by the way, all this guy had done all
year long was convert plays like that, So that was
stunning that he could not convert that fourth in less
than the yard.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Well, this this kind of feels like the current version
of Manning Brady back in the day in the AFC.
But we're still waiting for Manning to get Brady, and eventually,
you know, maybe he will, but so far Brady has
been owning Manning Brady being Patrick Mahomes. But Kevin Hardin's
with us and Ken we can talk more about the
Chiefs legacy next week and after Super Sunday. But there's
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been so much talking about the Bills in Chiefs game.
I feel like there's been almost no chatter about the
Commanders in Philadelphia. It was a blowout, obviously, but when
you look at this Eagles roster, do you see a
roster that potentially is built to take down Kansas City
next Sunday.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Clearly they run the ball well two ways. The quarterback
and then Barkley, who who I think is the single
biggest personality after Mahomes, are equal to Mahomes in the game.
The game will evolve around those two players. And the
Chiefs have not been able to stop the run against
the Texans in the divisional run they round. They really
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didn't stop last week cook for the Buffalo Bills on
the ground. So the Chiefs have been susceptible to the
run game and in the regular season I think they
were like twentieth in the league in stopping the run.
And that is the bread and butter that Philly offense.
That's gonna be the first thing that I circle as
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to you know, those numbers that success or non success
I think will really dictate the game. Chiefs defense will
play well. Mahomes will have his kind of game. He
rarely blows it. I saw a weird statistic and I'm
gonna I'm gonna get parts of this wrong, but the
gist of it are there. Down by a score on
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the last possession of a game, and Brady was like
five of twelve, Manning was like four of seven. Mahomes
is seven of seven. Like he's just he is just
wired differently. And that alone gives this team so much confidence.
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And that's the other thing about the Chiefs. They don't blink.
How will Philly react if they're in that kind of situation.
Will they have the call that the quarterback seems to exude.
Will they have the confidence to run the ball not
give up on the run. Can they improve their passing
game a little bit? They've got a better roster than
the Chiefs from one to fifty three. They got some
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real studs on defense. That defensive line is terrific, So
no it. If you're going to pick two teams, these
are the two teams to make it all the way
you're defending champion and the best team I think in
the NFC clearly.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Well, I'll just give you one question on the legacy
factor here, but the goat talk between Brady and Mahomes
has already begun. Is it too early for that? No
matter what happens next Sunday.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
The biggest separation is Brady did it over two decades
and that's not san Patrick won't. And Mahomes is actually
off to a better start. And will he have the
individual numbers Brady's individual numbers are to me in some
like passing yards, like untouchable will will Patrick wins seven
Super Bowl rings and Brady's done it with two different franchise.
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That's difficult. And can you do it over a twenty
year period where there is some you know, some lean years,
some off years in between, and resurrect that and come
back and do that? To me, Brady is still the guy.
But Mahomes is on a path. Should he stay on
this path where he yes, he would be the greatest,
But he's got a couple and he's got to win
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a up super Bowl to get the five. He's got
what he's got right now. But I'm anxious to see
what happens here. He's he is on an incredible pace
for sure. And people thought, we'll never see the likes
of Brady again, And here we are, less than a
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couple of years after he's retired, and we're seeing the
likes of Brady again. Just goes to show you when
you think it will never happen, it can creep up
on you. And that's exactly what has happened with Mahomes
chasing Brady.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, well, Brady maybe the go to quarterbacks, but you're
the go to broadcasters, baby, Kevin Harlan.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, come on, now, come on, come on every Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
You're two kinds.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Turnesy of the Emerald Queen. All right, listen, you got
NBA basketball. What tomorrow? Is that right, Memphis TNT correct, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
The number two and number three teams in the Western Conference.
I mean, you're talking about two outstanding ball clubs. So
I'm looking forward to that. That'll be a lot of fun.
And then I got Illinois and Ohio State nice in Champagne,
Nice on Sunday, Thank you, thank you?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh are you talking about in Champagne?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Are you talking to somebody else here? Talking to somebody else?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Listen? You gotta go. You got stuff to do.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Go go, go, jump on the plane, get your car,
get your first class c gets your upgrade. All right,
get your meal, and we'll talk in a week before
Super Sunday.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
We'll break this thing down next week.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
All right, man, you got it, buddy, you got it.
You got it. Okay, thank right so much.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
You bet.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Kevin Harlin with us, the voice of Super Bowl fifty nine.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
He's got the Memphis game tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
You heard it right there, Illinois, Ohio State for CBS
on Saturday as well. The man is a machine and
never slows down. Kevin Harden with us every Wednesday. We're
gonna break a lot more to get to, including Jim
Boden's comments on the Mariners from yesterday. Oh my, coming
up in the six o'clock hour on ninety three three KJRFM.
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Speaker 4 (20:20):
I'm watching this video, Dick, Dick and I were talking
about this off the air. Jackson Mike Green, who is
a defensive end for Marshall. He had seventeen sacks for
Marshall this last year. There's a video at the Senior
Bowl of him just putting Josh Connery on his ass.
I just put it on Twitter, by the way, on
my Twitter account.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
If you like a little schadenfreude of former Oregon Duck
players that spurred the U dub and went to the
Ducks instead, you might want to watch it. Kind of
works as a metaphor for the Rose Bowl too, by
the way, for the Ducks as well. Getting flattened by
this guy. So check it out. Seven seventeen sacks, yes,
seventeen secks right, I would like him on the seventeen.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Sacks six four two fifty. Well, the thing is Virginia
at seventeen sacks from Marshall last year. Please, Connolly is
supposed to be like a late first round rack.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
He wants to scrub that video from all social media.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Is there? We can scrub it from all social media because.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
He just gets flattened by a guy that's probably forty
pounds lighter than him.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
What is Connory away? You think he's ever three hundred?
Is he ever three hundred? He probably is.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Right first tah blah blah, six four three fifteen.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
According to Wikipedia, Rainer Beach is that right?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Yes, yes he is Rainer Beach and decided to go
to Oregon or they paid him a bunch of money.
Good for him, played well whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Probably as a future in the NFL for sure, But
you're right, if you're him, you'd like that.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Video to just go away at all, big time.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Mike Florio was with us a couple hours ago, and Dick,
you asked about the Chiefs calls that they appear to
be getting, or the people that think they're getting.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
What was the exact question? Again, is the question included
by the way questions? What was the question you asked for?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Let's see you remember your own question well written down?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I've already I don't.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
It was basically the validity to the argument that the
Chiefs are getting calls by the officials the league.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
In recent years, I believe has smeared what should be
a firewall between football business and football integrity. They're so
obsessed with ratings, they're so obsessed with audience. They're so
obsessed with money that at some point the officials are
going to develop a subconscious bias in favor of the
star players the popular teams. So that's how it happens.
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Think about the complicated collection of cells and synapses. They
send a message from someone's brain to their hand as
to why they're not going to have to pull out
a flag in a split second. So I think that
the bias is real, and it can manifest itself and
calls the favor of the chiefs, and maybe at the
end of the day, maybe at the end of the day,
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that's why Jeff Seaman gave in to Patrick, because hulp
Spot favors the chiefs. Semen Spot favorite the bills. And
there's no grants, conspiracy, it's just human nature in action.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
By the way, two things, if your last name was Semen,
would you change your last name?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
It's unfortunate. I'm just the first thing I thought about.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I'm sorry, I just I mean, there's no part I
had my first name, you definitely.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Well, you'd be known as Richard by the way, for sure.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
And then number two, he seems to be thinking it's
a real subconscious deal that they do give the favorable
calls to Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, I think I think it's probably in there.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
I think some some NBA officials definitely did the same
thing in the Kobe Shack run and the in the
Michael Jordan run. I just think it's kind of in
the subconscious, right, you think, Oh, this guy is so unbelievable,
He's got a way to avoid contact. I'm not gonna,
you know, I'm I'm just I'm gonna called the foul
in his favor. Not because you're trying to cheat or
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trying to help them out. You're just kind of in
awe of what you're saying, and they're maybeing on what
they're seeing with.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Like, what's the big story going into the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
It's all about Kansas City, right, Like nobody's talking about Philadelphia,
which is why I think Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I don't know, man.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
I mean, we got ten days left or whatever it
is until the game, and I might bet the Eagles.
I mean, I'm just I'm getting convinced by Harlan, getting
convinced by Millan that this is the team they could
do it. They got the great defensive line, and then
I'll bet the Eagles and I'll feel like a schmuck
on Sunday night when Chiefs win the game.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
But weren't the I mean when they played two years ago,
as I recall, the Chiefs were not as good a
version as the Chiefs that they are now.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Well, they're not as good win total, because they'd never
won fifteen games up until now, but it seemed like
they were more dominant back then that maybe they weren't
playing as because now people are making a big deal
about the seventeen consecutive one score wins, right, and that
wasn't the thing they were. Mean, I gotta look at
them at their schedule, but it kind of felt like
they were maybe a little more dominant back then when
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they played Philadelphia and now they kind of have a
few warts, but they just keep finding a way to
get it done. And look, I mean, Dick, I understand
what you're saying about. You got to have a double
digit lead, blah blah blah. At some point they're gonna
freaking lose. At some point they're gonna lose a game.
When the hell is that going to be? And this
Eagles team, if we really believe in the domination of
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the Linus scrimmage and the running game and the great defense.
If that's everything that you want, then you would take Philadelphia.
But does Kansas City do they just have that magic?
Do they have that talent where it doesn't matter who's
on the opposite side of the ball, they just find
a way to win. I mean the Super Bowl that
they played against Philadelphia, Kansas City won thirty eight to
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thirty five. Right, it was another or a high scoring
three point game. Philadelphia is leading that game twenty seven
to twenty one heading into the fourth quarter, and the
Chiefs scored seventeen points in the fourth quarter and they
won the game. So if they were leading thirty four
to twenty one, would they have found a way to
win the game? If they would have made the Chiefs
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one dimensional, had no choice but to throw the ball,
would they have won the game?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I just feel like if there's ever a blueprint to
beat them, and I don't even know if that exists,
does Philadelphia have it? Do they have what you need
with the great lines, the great running game, the two
great wide receivers, the great secondary. Do they have the
blueprint if one even exists to beat Kansas City?
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Well, the offenses were better for both teams, I mean
Kansas City and Philadelphia. Back in twenty twenty two, that
was number one and number two offense in the in
the NFL. Kansas City average twenty nine points per game
that year, but opponent points per game Kansas City was
actually eighteenth that season.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
So they were Their point differential, by the way, was
plus one twenty seven. Now it's fifty nine, right.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Kansas City won so many more games close this year.
But there so bottom line on Kansas City a significantly
better defense offensive team than they were when they won
that Super Bowl. But it looks to be a significantly
more limited offensive.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Team for Kansas Kansas City. Yeah, but they just keep
finding ways.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I mean, like go back to the fourth down stop
that everybody's bitching about from the Buffalo game. They get
to stop and then two plays later they're inside the
Buffalo twenty five. Well right, just bang instantly.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
I think it's the old line, the old Tiger Woods
line of he knew he was going to beat you,
You knew he was going to beat you, and he
knew you knew that he was going to beat you.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And that is like Sunday in a final round.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
Right, So if you're a stroke up on Tiger with
five holes to play, two strokes up with nine holes
to play.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
All those things came.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Into play, and I get that feeling when I watch
the Chiefs play.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I really don't care what the score is.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
With seven or eight minutes left to go in the game,
I feel like I'm watching and I'm like, I know
that the Chiefs are going to find a way, somehow,
some way to make the plays to win this football game.
And I feel very, very comfortable sitting there as a
Chiefs fan or betting the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yes that I feel that way. Gun to your head
right now? Who wins the game? Chiefs?
Speaker 6 (28:07):
All right, don't put the Eagles, dude, just don't do it.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Five thirty nine. It's now time for safty In Dick's
one with Audio.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Jimmy GA Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Now let's have some fun with audio.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
So Jackson Dick asked me during the break if we're
doing Choose your Own Adventure at six o'clock. What he
really meant was you make the call? How are you
talking about it? I actually love that are we doing
follow the Leader?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I really love that. I always forget the name of it.
I love you and I always forget the name of it.
How do you forget the name of it? We do
it almost every use your own adventure. Oh my god?
All right, a little fun with audio though right here? Ay, Dick,
did you happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Dick?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
On Monday, the Cowboys and Jerry Jones introduced Brian Schottenheimers
their new head coach at the press conference. Jerry, imagine
the owner having to defend the decision to hire a
head coach right in front of the head coach he
just hired.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Now I get my verbial ass kick over needing people
in my comfort zone without this thing being about me
in any way. If you don't think I can't operate
out of my comfort zone, you're so wrong. It's unbelievable.
This is as big a risk as you could take,
as big a risk as you could take.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
No head coaching experience.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I've read where I don't have a pencheont for risk taking.
If you really knew my score sheet, you would see
that I've taken more risk in the last five years
than the rest of my life put together. Let me
say this, I'm sent.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
It when I was a pup.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I have a good background in the makeup of what
a coach is to think that you could make a
decision in an interview. I wouldn't dare have had an
interview unless I talk to many many people.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I don't know, man I Brian may do fine. I
had no idea. We'll have to see on that.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
But I think it's just getting uncomfortable with Jerry Jones now.
It is getting sad with him. And I don't know, man, I,
what do you do?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Like, what do you do if you're his son? What
do you do if your management in Dallas?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
The guy's the owner and he wants control, and he's
never gonna give it up until he dies.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
That's never going away.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Maybe then you're gonna you're gonna be stuck in seven
to ten win Land and until he's no longer the owner.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
I mean, do they do cognitive tests for owners as
well and say you gotta be of a certain mind
to own this thing and they can take it away.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
That was ridiculous Star Trek Captain duty totally.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I mean, I just and I feel bad for Shottenneimer
because the guys sitting there going no coaching experience right
in front of him.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I mean, he's sitting right there. I mean, Jackson, you
get hired, and I'm like, I'm like, man, look at
the risk I just took on this job. This guy
has no idea what he's doing and I'm giving him
a job.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Don't call him stupid, Okay, I mean, is it not
just insanely uncomfortable and kind of rooting for the guy
a little bit?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Ripping? He's really nice. I liked Ryan Alive, he's nice,
really nice.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
I don't know nic guy, but ripping on the Cowboys
used to be a real fun hobby of mine, and
it's not even fun anything.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
It's they're so bad and so poorly run that you
can't even make fun of him anymore.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
It's kind of like the coups, to be honest with you,
like moving on.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
I'm serious, I'm not I'm not being a smart ass,
Like it was okay to bust their balls when they
were in the Pac twelve with us, but then when
they got left behind, it's like, God, it kind of
feel sorry for those miserable bastards until theirs not even
fun anymore. Geez all right, hey, Dick, did you happen
to hear that David, What's that? Dick dan Patrick then
shared his reaction to Jerry Jones taking over Brian Schottenheimer's
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press conference on his show yesterday.
Speaker 9 (32:14):
I've seen a lot of press conferences. That's as weird
as I've ever witnessed a press conference where it became
it was a little bit about Brian Schottenheimer, it was
a whole lot about Jerry Jones. Brian Schottenheimer remembering his
father Marty. He starts to cry and it was like
a nice moment, and then Jerry has to bring up
that he too lost his dad, and then he started
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crying as well.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
He hijacked it and I'm going, did your dad just died?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Jerry?
Speaker 9 (32:44):
No, it felt like Jerry was taken over the Cowboys
as their head coach.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
It really did it.
Speaker 9 (32:49):
Totally does It felt like Brian Schottenheimer wasn't there. Sorry,
it didn't mean interrupt. It does feel like that.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
And it also makes me wonder if anybody really wanted
the job, you know, like, did anybody really want the
cowboy job? Or was working for Jerry Jones just simply
put too much?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I could be I mean, I I honestly thought Dion Sanders.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Would have been an intriguing fit there, I really did,
And I thought Deon Sanders might be able to inject
some life kind of what the Cowboys needed, just some
just some juice, like a lightning bolt, because the Cowboys
have never had a problem having requisite talent to win,
it's just everything else around it.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, I thought would have been good.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I agree would have been fun too, Right, All right, Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that that Husky's head coach
Jed Fish joining John Wilder and John Cakensanald's podcast yesterday
and talked about roster tampering and college football and how
it can be stopped.
Speaker 10 (33:46):
I think it's very easy to stop, but for some
reason it seems like maybe no one's agreeing with me.
But make contracts being something that would be the way
to stop it. Pedalies, you know, make you you know,
lose five scholarships for tampering, lose you know, turn it.
What is the definition of tampering? What does it make
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contracts more than every six months? The only way to
stop tampering is if we have better regulation on whether
or not movement is going to be you know, real
or not real, Like if people people call our players
after every single game they play. I mean, we've I
have players, and what I think certain teams don't realize
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is the relationship you have with your own player is
far stronger than the relationship that somebody thinks that they
have by calling one of our players. So the information
comes back to us all the time until we figure
out it's not allowed.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Then it's going to continue. Do we think he's doing
the same thing though, Jed?
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Then he's calling other players.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Honestly, if he's not, he should I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
I mean, if if nobody's playing fair, I don't think
why should he be the guinea pig.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I don't think Jed's.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Calling players after their games, but I think the Huskies
are probably calling.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Does he have representatives on his behalf? It's Bob Comford, Jed.
You have to fight fire with fire.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
I think Jackson is exactly right till the NCAA is
gonna nut up and take control, which who knows if
they ever will. Why would you be the one guy
that says, you know what, we're playing by the rules. Yeah,
meantime you got no players, great, good for you, you're
playing by the rules. I totally agree with you, Jackson.
Speaker 11 (35:27):
It just doesn't it doesn't make sense to just be
the good guy in this situation. Yes, if you're one
of the I don't know what the percentages of people
behaving correctly versus not, But like, listen, if you're one
of the people who are being the good boy and
trying to say we don't want to get in trouble, well, okay,
the other half of the schools are totally fine opening
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themselves up to trouble, but the clearly at the ends
of the body is doing nothing about this, so you
might as well not be a good boy.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Well, I think this is one of the reasons. And
we talked about turned into a bad boy. We talked.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
We talked about ni L being one of the reasons
that the SEC is falling behind the Big Ten. I
think another one of the reasons the SEC is falling
behind the Big ten is because the SEC was cheating
worse than any other conference and dominating, and now everybody
gets to cheat just as much as the SEC, so
they don't dominate it.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Right, Imagine getting a call from the NC double A,
you've been a naughty bud jed.
Speaker 11 (36:23):
Players, And what I would respond if I was jet fish.
You want to look at me, how about you look
at the rest first, because if you come after.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Me, you better be coming names like Jim Mora did number.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Maybe behind the closed doors he is, didn't Dirt Cutter
call out Oregon exactly for calling their guys?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Has there been any investigation in Oregon about that?
Speaker 5 (36:44):
No? No? No?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Rhode Island basketball coach Archie Miller had a press conference
yesterday where he shared his take on the SEC having
a fifty win rate and conference play.
Speaker 12 (36:57):
I heard somebody say the other day, like, you know,
the SEC's best league in a country, but you know,
in all games they're like fifty four and fifty four.
Somebody said that. I don't know if that's even accurate,
but like, do you know how hard it is in
every league you know, to to win. You know, it's
just hard to win any game.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
It's not even accurate, head coach, just to let you
know that in conference play, all conferences are five unders.
Oh god, conference play because they're playing each other, so
there has to be.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
The same I don't know if that's accurate. I don't
know if that's that's accurate. You know, I got to
be honest with you. I didn't think about that till
you just say you're exactly right. Am I a moron?
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yes,
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