January 5, 2026 • 31 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain talk to Hugh Millen about the win over the 49ers, then they talk about Kenneth Walker’s big run, and playoff expectations.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I heard Hugh a couple of times on the radio
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station this morning with Egan Furnest today, and I really
was impressed by what I heard out of hume Ellon,
and I thought towards the tail end of his conversation
with Ian that we would not need a little more
at four. And then all of a sudden, I found
myself just wanting a little bit more from you. I
just thought I almost got Hughey, almost got everything I
needed from you, but not everything. So now we have
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you back into the air for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I got so many notes here, dude. Yeah, yeah, Well,
why don't we just give you the floor? Just start go?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yes, one of the biggest regular season wins in Seahawks history.
They're the number one seed for the first time since thirteen.
What's the top of your mind today, man, Well, I just.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Think you look at how Seattle dominated the forty nine
er offense, you know, really focusing on Christian McCaffrey and
the running backs, the fact that they would have ten
carries for thirty two yards, and in that they in
those ten carries, the Seahawks they play heavy box. They
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brought the safety down one out of the ten, nine
out of the ten times they played with a past shell,
they stopped the run with just seven guys, and they
did it with NICKI Min Worry basically playing a Sam
Nickel Sam. And so the fourthcoming comment that I'm gonna
make is is assuming that Emon Worry is a linebacker,
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because that's what he plays. And I'll get to that
in a second. There wasn't one secondary. The other four
remaining secondary guys never were in on a tackle on
the forty nine er run place. The Seahawks handled the
forty nine er offense with just their their front seven.
That's never happened. I'm so used to. I did the
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numbers since twenty nineteen, the forty nine ers of the
winning this team in the NFC, they've averaged in that stadium,
the forty nine ers offense one hundred and fifty one
yards rushing, averaged thirty one rush attempts. So the degree
to which Seattle has squashed them, you know, just exponentially.
And a final thought on Emon Worry because a lot
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of people say, wasn't that like you know, like Cam
Chancellor camp Chancer played in the box. This is why
I say, nick emmonin Worri is a Sam linebacker. If
I was playing still and preparing to play the Seahawk defense,
first of all, I'd be soiling my shorts at the prospect.
But secondly, I as I analyzed nick Emon Worriy, he's
just a linebacker. He Cam Chancellor played in the post
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safety in twenty thirteen Super Bowl winning Here Cam Chancellor,
You'd say, well, he was the strong safety, right, he
was the guy down in the box. He played cover three.
That's a single high ear Old Thomas is the free safety.
Cam Chancers down in the box. Cam had four and
thirteen snaps as the post safety. That's forty one percent
of his snaps. Nick am and Worry only has one
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snap this whole year. Is a post safety and a
half re quarter back in safety another five. So he
you know, Nick Emmerworry's a linebacker and a great one
and how he plays, and you know, very pivotal in
what they did, just squashing that run offense by San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Clint Kobeac's game plan seemed to me like kind of
the one that I wanted from the Huskies when they
were in Wisconsin. Just don't hand the opponent the game.
Did you like how conservative the Hawks were, and is
that the best game plan for this offense going into
the playoffs because of this defense?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, I mean I'm yes, if I take your question literally,
I think it was a good game plan for Saturday night.
I think you were I think the game plan, you
know modified, you know, what is the game plan, what
you thought going into the game, and then what is
the adjustments and then how do you play it? You know,
there's those are blurred lines, right, And I think as
the game evolved, you saw how dominant Seattle was not
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just against the forty nine run offense, but how they
were handling rock perty smacking him around, and so it
just played out that way. But I'm a little bit
if we if we're gonna take the helicopter and raise
it up a little bit and try and have a
broader discussion this this idea that Sam Donald is just
some kind of Trent dilferd that you you know, if
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you just manage, anybody can win. I think that is
a load of crap. Sam Donald, I'm gonna I'll give
you a stat so raise your hand or say I
we're on radio, say I if you ever ever heard
a national commentator say Russell Wilson throws the best deep
ball in the NFL. A all right, okay, thank you,
Russell Wilson. You guys are freaking on it man, Monday,
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we're sharp. Well, you're asking easy questions man here on
passes over thirty yards, right, Like that's where you're going
to have that trajectory on passes air yards over thirty yards.
Russell Wilson the Super Bowl year, he completed twenty eight
points six called twenty nine percent of his passes where
the ball was in the era over thirty. Over over
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Russ's career, he's thirty six percent. Got me? So, I
mean you know the average, by the way, this year,
the average is twenty nine percent completion if the ball's
in the air over thirty. Second place this year was
forty three percent. It's pretty damn good, right balls in
there over thirty. Sam Donald was fifty eight percent far away,
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number one in the NFL and one hundred and forty
two passer rating. When he's cranking it up and more
throwing more than thirty years, I could inundate you with stafts.
Number one quarterback rating on yards of over twenty over thirty,
the big yards per dropback so this idea, I almost
feel like I can see this conversation getting shoehorned into
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Seattle's got this great defense. Oh they're running the ball now,
you know they've got this this. You know, Trent Dilford
tight quarterback. I look at the passing I have in front,
passing first downs. Sam Donald has three and a half
times the pas first downs that Trent Dilfer had that year. Like, so,
so let's Sam Donald still has a he has shown
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ability to make plays. And yet you know, look, I'm
obviously not complaining about what happens Saturday night, right, that
was beautiful football, Right, but let's just let's give Sam
Donald his due about his ability to put the ball
down the field to make play. Thousand percent deserves it. Okay,
So if we're gonna win a title, let's nitpick a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
All right, Let's not sit around and just say, hey,
we're all good. Let's go through this thing with a
fine frickin' tooth comb. You know how the coaches will be.
They'll be at the facility, they will live at the
facility between now and the end of the year, looking
for any advantage. And if we're talking about this thing
on the blade of a knife, Hue. One mistake can
sync YOUA one missed opportunity can syncia. I want you
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to tell me why we're not scoring touchdowns in the
red zone and why this team is five for their
last fourteen in the last four games in the red zone.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And in the red zone fringe. Well, it starts on
first down. I gotta I gotta add the other night
into the equation. But I know that they they've been
averaging uh just under two yards per down on first down,
and it was in there with the running game, you know,
getting you know, they faced a lot of second and eights,
so they've got to clean that up. I think that
they needs to take some shots, right. You know some
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of the best scoring now they scored whatever the second
in the the NFL and scoring and instead of franchise
record for points. But you're asking me about red zone
and red zone friends, you know that area call it
the you know the thirty in or even the forty
in where it's you're right at that distance of a
very long field goal or what have you. A lot
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of coaches they say on first down, I'm gonna take
a shot. I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna go touchdown, checkdown, touchdown, checkdown.
That's how quarterbacks are often taught, Like we're gonna give
you two or three receivers to into the end zone.
If you like one of it, smoke it in there.
If you don't like it, just hit the checkdown, right,
Like if the light's not green, then take the checkdown.
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Sot of trying to get seven yard completions, co try
and get a twenty seven yard you know ball in
the year and the next play we're kicking a pat
And so I think that that would be a components
as the numbers I just said might illuminate. I think
that Darnold's capable of that. So so you know, I
think sometimes they kind of constrict themselves. I think they
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were a little bit more free earlier in the year.
They're making bigger plays earlier in the year, And so
that might be an area. It's a fine line, right
because because I get that there's a fair argument if
you can keep running like this, certainly that's true, you know,
because you know Dilford. You know he had Jamal Lewis
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who had over two thousand yards that year. Like I
get leaning on a great defense and a great running game.
I'm not convinced. And look, I'm glad to be proven wrong.
I told you guys a month ago, I don't see
the running game turning around. Well guess what it's turned
around over the last three weeks. Beautiful and so but
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I still think that there may be some times where
you say, hey, let's go, let's go big game hunting.
We got a quarterback who's proven that he can do it.
Last year. I looked up all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Last year is fifth in completion percentage on yards over
thirty with the whole you know, and and third and
passer rating on yards passing yards over thirty. I mean,
it's a guy that has been able to connect with
a lot of different receivers down the field over the
last couple of years. I think some big plays need
might need to be there in the playoffs. So why
is the running game succeeding now when it didn't for
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the first two And as I think what she saw
the other night, uh, you know, first of all, the
wide zone, I think it was it was symbolic that
the first play of the game was stretched right and
you got what nine yards out of it? Whatever it was.
But they sealed the edge there. Tight ends are blocking
well on the edge and and and so you're getting
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the defense to flow and then that's creating because they're
worried about the flow and getting wide because you're trying
to stretch them. Now, those inside runs are working. They're
not wasting their time with uh with gap scheme. They
tried one power play and Anthony Bradford, you know, just
that's not his strong suit, just playing in space, he
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kind of missed the block. It gets gummed up there.
Ken Kubiak didn't go back to it the rest of
the night. He had one trap that they don't run
often maybe once a month with Gray's Abel Center missed
his block, so that didn't work out well. You know what,
uh Kubiak just said, Hey, I'm gonna go inside zone,
outside zone and and and what's called duo kind of
a blast with double teams in the middle. But but
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I keep I think they keep it clean, and you know,
they're blocking better, they're just communicating. Timing's better on their
double teams moving up to the second level and and
so yeah, it's it's it's obviously about time and and
well placed timing.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Well, the other guy that's been back now is Robbie Huts.
I mean he's back and they're kicking ass in the
run game. How much of this do you honestly give
him credit for?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Well, it was his second most number of snaps the
other night. They had eleven runs with him in the
backfield sixty six yards. Obviously you know right there at
six yard average that there was a play that I
think was indicative of the of the degree I said
earlier in the day the Seahawks out forty nine or
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to forty nine ers, and there I could go on
for twenty minutes on all the different elements that I
may say it. One of them is Robbie Utes. And
there was a play where he's as a lead blocker
tourn at seventy pound fullback. Watched the tape d Winners
number fifty three, a pretty good week side linebacker on
a lead zone play. He ran around the block like
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a matador would be in a bullfight, like he wanted
no part of Robbie Utes. And it was kind of embarrassing.
I know how the forty nine ers that they're probably
themselves on that physicality. There's a play there where you
got a pretty damn good linebacker just tapping out of
that play. And and so I think there's a there's
a physicality, you know, the the uh you think of
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the forty nine ers getting under center with with Kyle
Yushchev and playing twenty one personnel. That's two backs, one
tight end. They were since twenty and nineteen. When when
when the forty nine ers were thirteen three to the
Super Bowl, they have two thousand and four and forty
nine plays out of twenty one personnel. That's a that's
a hard ball offensive personnel said. It's just a statement
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when even in the huddle, that's telling the defense we
want to play hardball. And the next closest is fourteen
hundred and seventy nine. They averages five to sixteen, so
there are one thousand snaps more than second place, and
they're five times as much as the average. Almost right,
that's who they are. And yet they got under center
the other night with two backs and for three runs
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and Seattle had thirty three. So they text him on
their brand of physical football. So so I don't know, man,
that's just it's cool stuff. It's it's what Mike McDonald
h envision. It's what John Schnyder envisioned. They got the guys,
they got the coaches, and they are not saying we're
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gonna come into the NFC West and beat you with
finesse because you're a physical team. Will just you know,
shoot it over the top of your head. No, no, No,
we're gonna We're gonna pound the paint and come hard
at the paint every freaking possession. And uh I love it, Hugh.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
That first drive was like the waiter at a fine
steakhouse just handing you a perfectly cooked ribbi mashed potatoes
side and then just as.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
He's about just he's about to leave, he dumps.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Water all over it, right, and he's kind of and
that was the sack. What what did Sam see or
not see to prevent him from throwing the ball to
what appeared to be a wide open and Zach Sharmon
in the flat?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah? Yeah, I'll just give you my analysis on that.
First of all, I think it's important to know because
a lot of people say, what the hell are you
doing passing the football? I think they should have run it.
I was not sitting there going go play action. They
had already run down there. I'd say, hey, let's just
run the ball. But this year first down and goal
at the one yard line, there are one hundred and
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forty seven plays. Thirty five of them were passes. And
that's that's twenty five exactly twenty five percent. So generally
offensive coaches say, if we never throw the ball, it's
gonna be a lot harder to run down there. Okay,
so I'm not totally against the fact that they threw it.
What happened is is they were in infirmation, and usually
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that play where you go play action and then you
got a guy in the flat, you got the corner,
the tight end, the corner. That's that is a ubiquity.
I coached that in high school. I mean, this is
all over football, that concept. But so the Seahawks had
a wrinkle to it. Instead of have in the full
back oots in the flat, who is lined up closer
and would get to the flat sooner on his bluff block,
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block bluff block, they had oots block and they had Charbonay,
who was lined deep in the information he had to
get to the flat. So you know, I bet you
I'm certain that Darnold has been running that play since
San Clementi High School. I know he ran it at
usc everybody's run that play. The timing's a little off
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when you're waiting for the tailback. So he looked out
there in the flat and if you I'm gonna send
you guys a photo, there's a point where Oots's block
on the end is directly in his line of sight.
So the camera that's up set a one hundred feet
up in the air. We can all play quarterback from
that camera. When you're down there at that level and
that guy's blocks your vision. He didn't want to throw
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a pick six for one hundred yards. He wasn't sure
if there wasn't a defender there, we can see how
wide it opened it was. He couldn't. The timing was
a little bit late because of what I said, and
you know, and then Anthony Bradford at a horrible they
were to turn protection right to left. For Bradford, there's
only three guys rushing at five guys to handle three
and then the the late blitzer is the fourth. We
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still got five guys. Anthony Bradford gets your eyes open
on the on the delay blitzer, that's your guy, and
he just it was like you know those horses on
the blind that have blinders in the Kentucky Derby. It's
like he was like, like, dude, how did you not
see that Blitzer? Now, if I'm grading Darnold, I give
him at least a minus, possibly even a double minus.
I'm not absolving him. A lot of things going on
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on that play, as I described, but you know what
they went went for. It didn't get it, but that
that sequence kind of laid the groundwork for getting the
next touchdown to go up seven. Nothing.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, I'd like to play calling after the sack though,
either by Clint Kubiak. I mean I was a rough,
Yeah rough. I would have loved to have seen three
plays right to the ends. And I thought maybe he
had bobo on fourth down. But we can talk about
that later. But Hugh, before you go, Dick and Jackson
and I got into a little bit of a debate
about kind of you know what, what do we expect?
You know what do we expect now from this football team?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
And I will just leave you with this.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
The Seahawks, according to our Buddy Hawk blogger, have ended
the year number one in DVOA on offense defense overall.
Four of the previous five teams that did that won
the Super Bowl. Only team that didn't was the twenty
three Ravens that lost the conference championship. How surprised would
you be at this point? How disappointed would you be
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at this point, Hugh if they did not minimum win
the NFC and go back to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Uh, okay, I'd be disappointed. I'd be a little bit
surprised if you said, right now, the Seahawks do they
have a would be the Seahawks or the other six
teams in the playoff field in the NFC? I bet
you the Seahawks are under fifty percent probabilities in that regard.
So I saw him at forty eight, right, I just
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look at it. I've said it before. I think you know,
this is year one with Kobe Akin and Darnold like
there ahead of the game. Even if that were to happen.
Let's say the Rams were to beat them, which would
be but devastating, Like, I don't even want to put
it in the universe. I just pulled it back. You're
still talking about Matthew Stafford's going to be thirty eight
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when toe meet's leather at the Super Bowl this year.
Sam Don's twenty eight in year one. You know those
guys down south, they've they've been at the same system
for five years now, like they're ahead to be the
number one seed. They are way ahead to be you know,
set a franchise record for points number two, you know,
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and then now number one in all the points you know,
a EPA points DVOA. What you just said. You can't
find a stat where the Seahawks defense is number one.
They did exactly what we said that is likely to happen.
Coming from Baltimore halfway through year one, your your ratings
is like the twenties, Like what's happening. It's not taking
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hold well, it's very complicated. Second half of year one,
boom wow blast, and then the next year come on
and and lead the NFL in fewest points. That's exactly
what he did at Baltimore in his two years. That's
exactly what he's done here with the Seahawks. So you look,
you're playing with house money. I'll be very you know,
I think that they certainly should be considered the favorite,
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but when you compared against all the other field, there's
no way I'm gonna bring myself to say disappoint you know, Yeah, yeah,
I don't, I don't. I don't like that take from you.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I gotta be honest with you, and we're but the
problem is we're up against the clock. So I can
either explain it behind your back to Dick on the
air next segment, or you can hang around for a
little bit. It's it's totally your call. So how about
we do this. I'll just I'll just say it behind
your back, all right, and then and then and then
and then and then you can tune in like a
regular schmuck next segment and uh and listen to what
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I have to say. Uh, I want to come back
and address me. Yeah, yeah, I want to address that
next on ninety three three kJ a r f M.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
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Speaker 5 (20:06):
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How about Kenny Walker on third and fifteen on Saturday night.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Seattle's not been great on third down themselves tonight. They're
only three for seven. This is only a one score game,
ten to three. Get back into it right now, quick
run out to Kenneth Walker, coming wide right thirty thirty five,
breaks a tackle, spins out for the first down he
converts on third and seventeen.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
How aroused were you.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
When Kenny Walker converted that run on third and fifteen.
That is the golden moment, Dick brought to you by Belgrade.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
My favorite plays of the game.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I've always loved it running third and long all the
way since Holmegrin and I even had the text mic
on that play and he just got back and said,
my play, extell Mason Party loved it.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Called the Holmegrin What the hell?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Man?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Well, I thought it was fantastic, but I said it
was the play of the year on Twitter on Saturday night.
And I'll be honest with you, there's a little Tito's talking.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Ye okay during that thing.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
But you know what's funny about that because I saw
your tweet, I saw Andrews smartass response as well on
social media. I don't know if today's the day to
have that conversation. Maybe when the season's over, maybe we
do a bracket of the biggest plays of the year
for the Seahawks. But the Zach Charbonay two point conversion,
I think you said was bigger right against the Rams.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
So the staburd to win the game.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Frankly, Okay, sharbon one too well, because the Sharbonney one
happened with six minutes to.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Go in the game.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I understand, and look at look at the I'm just
gonna say in Jackson, I'm not saying you're wrong at all.
By the way, Okay and Dick, whatever comes out of
your mouth, I probably agree with you. Go back and
look at the win probability. After Kenny Walker converted that
run on third and seventeen, it changed, It changed, and
it changed in the Seahawks favor. But I just think
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there's an argument to be made. Maybe it's an argument
that will eventually come back to your take. Jackson on
the sober two point point conversion against the Rams. I
wonder where that fricking run would rank on the all
time best moments of the year, because that broke them.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
It was, it would rank very, very high.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I mean when I go back to that Rams game though,
just being in the stadium, from deflation to elation in
five seconds, right, Rashid Shaheed oh Rashi, I took that
place from we are going to lose this game to
oh my god, We're a touchdown down with eight minutes left.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
We might win this game.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
All of a sudden, it's like, okay, let's go back
to our seats. Exactly right.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
People that were leaving the stadium to go to Jimmy's
like me, I'll admit it, I got.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
No problem gone, or did you?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I took off to mix up the mojo and go
across the street to a bar, and the minute we
walked into Jimmy's, it was just like the Packer game
in twenty fourteen. Everything started changing. We stayed there at
the bar, probably way too long and enjoyed that comeback
against the Rams. But just going back to what he
was saying last segment, and look, I'm just guys, I'm
just speaking for myself, and I feel like after thirty
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two years, I got to remind people of that. I'm
not telling you how to think. You think whatever the
hell you want to think. I got one mouth, Thank god,
I got one opinion, and it's mine. I don't want
to get into a habit or even think about, Hey,
if they lose the NFC Championship or they lose in
the second round, it's okay, because the Hawks are going
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to be fine down the road. I think they probably
will be, but god darn it, who knows what the
hell tomorrow is going to bring. Go ask the Lions
about that. The Lions led the forty nine ers twenty
four to ten. Remember that two years ago at halftime
of the NFC Championship, and now they're done. Go ask
the twenty fourteen Z one thousand percent. Go ask them
about that opportunity. So I just want to approach this
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playoff run guys, as if this is it. This is
the last time you got to sell balls out to
the wall. Win this thing. You know, what if they
come back next year and Sam Darnold gets hurt. What
if they have a massive of injuries like the Lions
did on defense last year and they're banged up. You
and I were talking off the year right about how
lucky they for the most part been.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Other than the first month of the season, this team
has been knock on woods, magically healthy.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
So how can we turn that down? We have to
take advantage of this, guys. This doesn't happen very often.
Where you're healthy, you're good, You're playing your best football
at the end of the year. And oh, by the way,
the league's wide open. Everything is setting up. I mean,
how do we know what Mahomes is going to do
next year, or Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or the
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Philadelphia Eagles or anybody.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yes, next season, the.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Vegles might pull their head out and Joe Burrow might
be turning the parody.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
In the NFL right now that I've seen in a decade.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
I don't think we're disagreeing with you, softie. I think
we're arguing semantics. I think I think what Dick and
I are saying is that it's a it's a disappointment
of a certain degree if we lose to anybody but
the Rams.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Versus losing the Rams are good.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
We can all agree we would all be disappointed if
they don't make the Super I just.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Don't want to changes. Yes, and I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I am just like the Mariners right with the run
they had a couple of years ago when they led
the league in era and didn't even.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
You know, Uh, go ask the freaking Pacers how they
feel right now?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Are you kidding me? Did they go to Game seven
last year? Yeah? And then Halliburton gets hurt and now
they they still almost won. Now they're terrible. They're one
of the worst teams. They are awful.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
All right, So guys, this I mean again, you do
what floats your own boat. But for me, this idea
that I'm gonna sit here and say, well, it's okay,
because that'll be good for a while.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
How the hell do I know that?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Right?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I think they will be, But nothing's freaking guaranteed, dude.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
All I know is that right now we have a
kick ass football team with a great freaking chance to
win another Lombardi.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I mean, I just think that. I don't disagree with
anything you're saying.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I just I think we've passed the point where the
twenty twenty five season can be looked at as a disappointment.
Though that for me, I mean, now, obviously that's your take. Obviously,
if Carol beats the Rams and comes here and wins,
that would feel a lot different than if the Rams
went to beat Carolina and came.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Here to win, A lot different.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
If something like that got it just makes you want
to vomit thinking about it. Right, If you talk about
letting the air in the balloon, holy cow, if something
like that happened, I think we're angry on the air Monday.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I think you're pissed off Carolina beats us.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I think you're doing a postgame show with you, and
I think you're you're angry. I think you're angry at
the football team. Well, because you're mad at the players.
You're pissed off at the players because.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
The only way they lose that game is if they
hand it to Carolina totally. That's kind of where Jackson
and I are, Whereas you don't have to hand the
games game to the Rams for the Rams to beat you.
The Rams can just beat you straight up. But the
Carolina Panthers need two, three, four massive mistakes by you in.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Order to come here and win.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
They would need you to show up like like Romart
would always talk about, with the cool jackets and just
walk in there. You don't have to do jack squad
and your energy is like sin, like you're just out
all night partying. You know, you don't care, you're not
sleeping whatever, didn't even shower.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
The hell with it.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I'm not even gonna wear pads, show up and just
do whatever I want. That would be a situation where
I think the fans would get really mad at this
football team, and you know what do I see? Like
you could offer me, honestly a million to one odds
on a dollar on that happening, and I probably wouldn't
take it.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
That'd be a waste of a dollar.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
That's how confide. McDonald does not show will never never.
I mean, I don't know if you guys have heard
like I have that. You know, Mike McDonald doesn't really
reveal a lot to the media.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
You guys know that, really, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I mean, he's not Pete Carroll right, kind of keeps
things close to the vest.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Aka is kind of boring, but that's okay. When game,
Why would he cares?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I've heard that he is a ball buster behind the scenes,
massive ballbuster.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I think you have to be that discipline.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Your ass about a lot of things, by the way,
behind the scenes. And for a thirty six year old
guy whatever he is, thirty seven now to do something
like that shows how much confidence he's got. That's why
just keeps, you know, all this stuff, Like I was
texting John Michael's our buddy Atlanta Fawcons. Apparently you're looking
at Clint Kubiak and guys, I would not hire Clint
Kubiak to be a head coach. I think there's a
lot of great assistant coaches out there that are lifers,
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that have the personality to be a mad scientist behind
the scenes, but they don't have the chops to be
a CEO and a commander of a football team, either
college level or the NFL. And I may be wrong,
but from the limited time Dick that I've seen and
been around Clint Kubiak, I don't see him as a
CEO of a football team. I see him as a
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button pushing, mad scientist lab rat that knows how to
scheme up on offense, knows how to put guys in
the right position. I think he's been great at it
this year. I'd like to see Clint stay somewhere for
the first time in five years and come back here
next season. I think Atlanta hiring him as a head
coach fan would be a mistake.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
There is a certain level of presence, There's a certain
level of charisma that I feel like an NFL coach
has to have, right and we have had that here
and certainly and Mike Holmgre and he had an amazing presence.
Car and Pete Carroll and Mike McDonald different but still
has that still has that presence, and that present is
only going to grow as his experience and his success grows.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I just don't know if Clint Kubiak has that.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I agree with that, and again I could be wrong.
And I don't know what Arthur Blank values. I mean,
he may just want the schematic guy. You know, he
may not give it. Them about his personality, I mean,
they say they had Arthur Smith down there and he
was boring as a box of rocks and just couldn't
motivate squat down there. So I don't know, man, I
just I mean, look, if he wants to do it,
and he gets off for the job, good for him.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
If he feels like he's ready, good for him. But
I think he's better off as an assistant. I think
he's better off staying here, being in OC somewhere else
if he wants to move on one day. All right,
we're gonna break textimonials. You cool that next segment, and
then Walter Jones set the joining us at five, we'll
do our Seahawk Opponent audio recap with the forty nine
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er radio crew. Good god, how fun is this going
to be? Coming up? At five point twenty eight today,
right here on ninety three three KJRFL extremely
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Difficult, or they were so close, so close,
I heard Hugh a couple of times on the radio
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station this morning with Egan Furnest today, and I really
was impressed by what I heard out of hume Ellon,
and I thought towards the tail end of his conversation
with Ian that we would not need a little more
at four. And then all of a sudden, I found
myself just wanting a little bit more from you. I
just thought I almost got Hughey, almost got everything I
needed from you, but not everything. So now we have
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you back into the air for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I got so many notes here, dude. Yeah, yeah, Well,
why don't we just give you the floor? Just start go?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yes, one of the biggest regular season wins in Seahawks history.
They're the number one seed for the first time since thirteen.
What's the top of your mind today, man, Well, I just.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Think you look at how Seattle dominated the forty nine
er offense, you know, really focusing on Christian McCaffrey and
the running backs, the fact that they would have ten
carries for thirty two yards, and in that they in
those ten carries, the Seahawks they play heavy box. They
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brought the safety down one out of the ten, nine
out of the ten times they played with a past shell,
they stopped the run with just seven guys, and they
did it with NICKI Min Worry basically playing a Sam
Nickel Sam. And so the fourthcoming comment that I'm gonna
make is is assuming that Emon Worry is a linebacker,
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because that's what he plays. And I'll get to that
in a second. There wasn't one secondary. The other four
remaining secondary guys never were in on a tackle on
the forty nine er run place. The Seahawks handled the
forty nine er offense with just their their front seven.
That's never happened. I'm so used to. I did the
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numbers since twenty nineteen, the forty nine ers of the
winning this team in the NFC, they've averaged in that stadium,
the forty nine ers offense one hundred and fifty one
yards rushing, averaged thirty one rush attempts. So the degree
to which Seattle has squashed them, you know, just exponentially.
And a final thought on Emon Worry because a lot
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of people say, wasn't that like you know, like Cam
Chancellor camp Chancer played in the box. This is why
I say, nick emmonin Worri is a Sam linebacker. If
I was playing still and preparing to play the Seahawk defense,
first of all, I'd be soiling my shorts at the prospect.
But secondly, I as I analyzed nick Emon Worriy, he's
just a linebacker. He Cam Chancellor played in the post
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safety in twenty thirteen Super Bowl winning Here Cam Chancellor,
You'd say, well, he was the strong safety, right, he
was the guy down in the box. He played cover three.
That's a single high ear Old Thomas is the free safety.
Cam Chancers down in the box. Cam had four and
thirteen snaps as the post safety. That's forty one percent
of his snaps. Nick am and Worry only has one
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snap this whole year. Is a post safety and a
half re quarter back in safety another five. So he
you know, Nick Emmerworry's a linebacker and a great one
and how he plays, and you know, very pivotal in
what they did, just squashing that run offense by San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Clint Kobeac's game plan seemed to me like kind of
the one that I wanted from the Huskies when they
were in Wisconsin. Just don't hand the opponent the game.
Did you like how conservative the Hawks were, and is
that the best game plan for this offense going into
the playoffs because of this defense?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, I mean I'm yes, if I take your question literally,
I think it was a good game plan for Saturday night.
I think you were I think the game plan, you
know modified, you know, what is the game plan, what
you thought going into the game, and then what is
the adjustments and then how do you play it? You know,
there's those are blurred lines, right, And I think as
the game evolved, you saw how dominant Seattle was not
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just against the forty nine run offense, but how they
were handling rock perty smacking him around, and so it
just played out that way. But I'm a little bit
if we if we're gonna take the helicopter and raise
it up a little bit and try and have a
broader discussion this this idea that Sam Donald is just
some kind of Trent dilferd that you you know, if
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you just manage, anybody can win. I think that is
a load of crap. Sam Donald, I'm gonna I'll give
you a stat so raise your hand or say I
we're on radio, say I if you ever ever heard
a national commentator say Russell Wilson throws the best deep
ball in the NFL. A all right, okay, thank you,
Russell Wilson. You guys are freaking on it man, Monday,
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we're sharp. Well, you're asking easy questions man here on
passes over thirty yards, right, Like that's where you're going
to have that trajectory on passes air yards over thirty yards.
Russell Wilson the Super Bowl year, he completed twenty eight
points six called twenty nine percent of his passes where
the ball was in the era over thirty. Over over
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Russ's career, he's thirty six percent. Got me? So, I
mean you know the average, by the way, this year,
the average is twenty nine percent completion if the ball's
in the air over thirty. Second place this year was
forty three percent. It's pretty damn good, right balls in
there over thirty. Sam Donald was fifty eight percent far away,
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number one in the NFL and one hundred and forty
two passer rating. When he's cranking it up and more
throwing more than thirty years, I could inundate you with stafts.
Number one quarterback rating on yards of over twenty over thirty,
the big yards per dropback so this idea, I almost
feel like I can see this conversation getting shoehorned into
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Seattle's got this great defense. Oh they're running the ball now,
you know they've got this this. You know, Trent Dilford
tight quarterback. I look at the passing I have in front,
passing first downs. Sam Donald has three and a half
times the pas first downs that Trent Dilfer had that year. Like, so,
so let's Sam Donald still has a he has shown
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ability to make plays. And yet you know, look, I'm
obviously not complaining about what happens Saturday night, right, that
was beautiful football, Right, but let's just let's give Sam
Donald his due about his ability to put the ball
down the field to make play. Thousand percent deserves it. Okay,
So if we're gonna win a title, let's nitpick a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
All right, Let's not sit around and just say, hey,
we're all good. Let's go through this thing with a
fine frickin' tooth comb. You know how the coaches will be.
They'll be at the facility, they will live at the
facility between now and the end of the year, looking
for any advantage. And if we're talking about this thing
on the blade of a knife, Hue. One mistake can
sync YOUA one missed opportunity can syncia. I want you
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to tell me why we're not scoring touchdowns in the
red zone and why this team is five for their
last fourteen in the last four games in the red zone.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And in the red zone fringe. Well, it starts on
first down. I gotta I gotta add the other night
into the equation. But I know that they they've been
averaging uh just under two yards per down on first down,
and it was in there with the running game, you know,
getting you know, they faced a lot of second and eights,
so they've got to clean that up. I think that
they needs to take some shots, right. You know some
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of the best scoring now they scored whatever the second
in the the NFL and scoring and instead of franchise
record for points. But you're asking me about red zone
and red zone friends, you know that area call it
the you know the thirty in or even the forty
in where it's you're right at that distance of a
very long field goal or what have you. A lot
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of coaches they say on first down, I'm gonna take
a shot. I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna go touchdown, checkdown, touchdown, checkdown.
That's how quarterbacks are often taught, Like we're gonna give
you two or three receivers to into the end zone.
If you like one of it, smoke it in there.
If you don't like it, just hit the checkdown, right,
Like if the light's not green, then take the checkdown.
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Sot of trying to get seven yard completions, co try
and get a twenty seven yard you know ball in
the year and the next play we're kicking a pat
And so I think that that would be a components
as the numbers I just said might illuminate. I think
that Darnold's capable of that. So so you know, I
think sometimes they kind of constrict themselves. I think they
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were a little bit more free earlier in the year.
They're making bigger plays earlier in the year, And so
that might be an area. It's a fine line, right
because because I get that there's a fair argument if
you can keep running like this, certainly that's true, you know,
because you know Dilford. You know he had Jamal Lewis
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who had over two thousand yards that year. Like I
get leaning on a great defense and a great running game.
I'm not convinced. And look, I'm glad to be proven wrong.
I told you guys a month ago, I don't see
the running game turning around. Well guess what it's turned
around over the last three weeks. Beautiful and so but
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I still think that there may be some times where
you say, hey, let's go, let's go big game hunting.
We got a quarterback who's proven that he can do it.
Last year. I looked up all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Last year is fifth in completion percentage on yards over
thirty with the whole you know, and and third and
passer rating on yards passing yards over thirty. I mean,
it's a guy that has been able to connect with
a lot of different receivers down the field over the
last couple of years. I think some big plays need
might need to be there in the playoffs. So why
is the running game succeeding now when it didn't for
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the first two And as I think what she saw
the other night, uh, you know, first of all, the
wide zone, I think it was it was symbolic that
the first play of the game was stretched right and
you got what nine yards out of it? Whatever it was.
But they sealed the edge there. Tight ends are blocking
well on the edge and and and so you're getting
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the defense to flow and then that's creating because they're
worried about the flow and getting wide because you're trying
to stretch them. Now, those inside runs are working. They're
not wasting their time with uh with gap scheme. They
tried one power play and Anthony Bradford, you know, just
that's not his strong suit, just playing in space, he
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kind of missed the block. It gets gummed up there.
Ken Kubiak didn't go back to it the rest of
the night. He had one trap that they don't run
often maybe once a month with Gray's Abel Center missed
his block, so that didn't work out well. You know what,
uh Kubiak just said, Hey, I'm gonna go inside zone,
outside zone and and and what's called duo kind of
a blast with double teams in the middle. But but
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I keep I think they keep it clean, and you know,
they're blocking better, they're just communicating. Timing's better on their
double teams moving up to the second level and and
so yeah, it's it's it's obviously about time and and
well placed timing.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Well, the other guy that's been back now is Robbie Huts.
I mean he's back and they're kicking ass in the
run game. How much of this do you honestly give
him credit for?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Well, it was his second most number of snaps the
other night. They had eleven runs with him in the
backfield sixty six yards. Obviously you know right there at
six yard average that there was a play that I
think was indicative of the of the degree I said
earlier in the day the Seahawks out forty nine or
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to forty nine ers, and there I could go on
for twenty minutes on all the different elements that I
may say it. One of them is Robbie Utes. And
there was a play where he's as a lead blocker
tourn at seventy pound fullback. Watched the tape d Winners
number fifty three, a pretty good week side linebacker on
a lead zone play. He ran around the block like
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a matador would be in a bullfight, like he wanted
no part of Robbie Utes. And it was kind of embarrassing.
I know how the forty nine ers that they're probably
themselves on that physicality. There's a play there where you
got a pretty damn good linebacker just tapping out of
that play. And and so I think there's a there's
a physicality, you know, the the uh you think of
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the forty nine ers getting under center with with Kyle
Yushchev and playing twenty one personnel. That's two backs, one
tight end. They were since twenty and nineteen. When when
when the forty nine ers were thirteen three to the
Super Bowl, they have two thousand and four and forty
nine plays out of twenty one personnel. That's a that's
a hard ball offensive personnel said. It's just a statement
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when even in the huddle, that's telling the defense we
want to play hardball. And the next closest is fourteen
hundred and seventy nine. They averages five to sixteen, so
there are one thousand snaps more than second place, and
they're five times as much as the average. Almost right,
that's who they are. And yet they got under center
the other night with two backs and for three runs
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and Seattle had thirty three. So they text him on
their brand of physical football. So so I don't know, man,
that's just it's cool stuff. It's it's what Mike McDonald
h envision. It's what John Schnyder envisioned. They got the guys,
they got the coaches, and they are not saying we're
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gonna come into the NFC West and beat you with
finesse because you're a physical team. Will just you know,
shoot it over the top of your head. No, no, No,
we're gonna We're gonna pound the paint and come hard
at the paint every freaking possession. And uh I love it, Hugh.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
That first drive was like the waiter at a fine
steakhouse just handing you a perfectly cooked ribbi mashed potatoes
side and then just as.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
He's about just he's about to leave, he dumps.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Water all over it, right, and he's kind of and
that was the sack. What what did Sam see or
not see to prevent him from throwing the ball to
what appeared to be a wide open and Zach Sharmon
in the flat?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah? Yeah, I'll just give you my analysis on that.
First of all, I think it's important to know because
a lot of people say, what the hell are you
doing passing the football? I think they should have run it.
I was not sitting there going go play action. They
had already run down there. I'd say, hey, let's just
run the ball. But this year first down and goal
at the one yard line, there are one hundred and
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forty seven plays. Thirty five of them were passes. And
that's that's twenty five exactly twenty five percent. So generally
offensive coaches say, if we never throw the ball, it's
gonna be a lot harder to run down there. Okay,
so I'm not totally against the fact that they threw it.
What happened is is they were in infirmation, and usually
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that play where you go play action and then you
got a guy in the flat, you got the corner,
the tight end, the corner. That's that is a ubiquity.
I coached that in high school. I mean, this is
all over football, that concept. But so the Seahawks had
a wrinkle to it. Instead of have in the full
back oots in the flat, who is lined up closer
and would get to the flat sooner on his bluff block,
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block bluff block, they had oots block and they had Charbonay,
who was lined deep in the information he had to
get to the flat. So you know, I bet you
I'm certain that Darnold has been running that play since
San Clementi High School. I know he ran it at
usc everybody's run that play. The timing's a little off
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when you're waiting for the tailback. So he looked out
there in the flat and if you I'm gonna send
you guys a photo, there's a point where Oots's block
on the end is directly in his line of sight.
So the camera that's up set a one hundred feet
up in the air. We can all play quarterback from
that camera. When you're down there at that level and
that guy's blocks your vision. He didn't want to throw
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a pick six for one hundred yards. He wasn't sure
if there wasn't a defender there, we can see how
wide it opened it was. He couldn't. The timing was
a little bit late because of what I said, and
you know, and then Anthony Bradford at a horrible they
were to turn protection right to left. For Bradford, there's
only three guys rushing at five guys to handle three
and then the the late blitzer is the fourth. We
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still got five guys. Anthony Bradford gets your eyes open
on the on the delay blitzer, that's your guy, and
he just it was like you know those horses on
the blind that have blinders in the Kentucky Derby. It's
like he was like, like, dude, how did you not
see that Blitzer? Now, if I'm grading Darnold, I give
him at least a minus, possibly even a double minus.
I'm not absolving him. A lot of things going on
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on that play, as I described, but you know what
they went went for. It didn't get it, but that
that sequence kind of laid the groundwork for getting the
next touchdown to go up seven. Nothing.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, I'd like to play calling after the sack though,
either by Clint Kubiak. I mean I was a rough,
Yeah rough. I would have loved to have seen three
plays right to the ends. And I thought maybe he
had bobo on fourth down. But we can talk about
that later. But Hugh, before you go, Dick and Jackson
and I got into a little bit of a debate
about kind of you know what, what do we expect?
You know what do we expect now from this football team?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
And I will just leave you with this.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
The Seahawks, according to our Buddy Hawk blogger, have ended
the year number one in DVOA on offense defense overall.
Four of the previous five teams that did that won
the Super Bowl. Only team that didn't was the twenty
three Ravens that lost the conference championship. How surprised would
you be at this point? How disappointed would you be
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at this point, Hugh if they did not minimum win
the NFC and go back to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Uh, okay, I'd be disappointed. I'd be a little bit
surprised if you said, right now, the Seahawks do they
have a would be the Seahawks or the other six
teams in the playoff field in the NFC? I bet
you the Seahawks are under fifty percent probabilities in that regard.
So I saw him at forty eight, right, I just
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look at it. I've said it before. I think you know,
this is year one with Kobe Akin and Darnold like
there ahead of the game. Even if that were to happen.
Let's say the Rams were to beat them, which would
be but devastating, Like, I don't even want to put
it in the universe. I just pulled it back. You're
still talking about Matthew Stafford's going to be thirty eight
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when toe meet's leather at the Super Bowl this year.
Sam Don's twenty eight in year one. You know those
guys down south, they've they've been at the same system
for five years now, like they're ahead to be the
number one seed. They are way ahead to be you know,
set a franchise record for points number two, you know,
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and then now number one in all the points you know,
a EPA points DVOA. What you just said. You can't
find a stat where the Seahawks defense is number one.
They did exactly what we said that is likely to happen.
Coming from Baltimore halfway through year one, your your ratings
is like the twenties, Like what's happening. It's not taking
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hold well, it's very complicated. Second half of year one,
boom wow blast, and then the next year come on
and and lead the NFL in fewest points. That's exactly
what he did at Baltimore in his two years. That's
exactly what he's done here with the Seahawks. So you look,
you're playing with house money. I'll be very you know,
I think that they certainly should be considered the favorite,
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but when you compared against all the other field, there's
no way I'm gonna bring myself to say disappoint you know, Yeah, yeah,
I don't, I don't. I don't like that take from you.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I gotta be honest with you, and we're but the
problem is we're up against the clock. So I can
either explain it behind your back to Dick on the
air next segment, or you can hang around for a
little bit. It's it's totally your call. So how about
we do this. I'll just I'll just say it behind
your back, all right, and then and then and then
and then and then you can tune in like a
regular schmuck next segment and uh and listen to what
(19:51):
I have to say. Uh, I want to come back
and address me. Yeah, yeah, I want to address that
next on ninety three three kJ a r f M.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
From the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now
back to SOFTI and Dick on your home for the Huskies.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
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Speaker 1 (20:08):
Radio ninety three point three kJ r FM. Hi, we
have a brand new feature here Dick on this radio
show here on Mondays. This will be fun because I
think once the season's over, once we're kind of in
the spring and summer, we're gonna be coming up with
some pretty wacky moments to use for this segment on Monday,
It's called the Golden Moment from the weekend, brought to
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off the ear. I mean you're a part of this too. Obviously,
the Golden Moment could be anything. Maybe Dixon pops for
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forty five over the weekend, I'd be good, right. Maybe
Aubrey hits a sub twenty fifty free or whatever over
the weekend, right too. It's a record in her age, Drew,
But I would say the Bellevue Rare Coins Golden Moment
from the weekend. I'll go ahead and start this thing off.
How about Kenny Walker on third and fifteen on Saturday night.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Seattle's not been great on third down themselves tonight. They're
only three for seven. This is only a one score game,
ten to three. Get back into it right now, quick
run out to Kenneth Walker, coming wide right thirty thirty five,
breaks a tackle, spins out for the first down he
converts on third and seventeen.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
How aroused were you.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
When Kenny Walker converted that run on third and fifteen.
That is the golden moment, Dick brought to you by Belgrade.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
My favorite plays of the game.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I've always loved it running third and long all the
way since Holmegrin and I even had the text mic
on that play and he just got back and said,
my play, extell Mason Party loved it.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Called the Holmegrin What the hell?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Man?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Well, I thought it was fantastic, but I said it
was the play of the year on Twitter on Saturday night.
And I'll be honest with you, there's a little Tito's talking.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Ye okay during that thing.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
But you know what's funny about that because I saw
your tweet, I saw Andrews smartass response as well on
social media. I don't know if today's the day to
have that conversation. Maybe when the season's over, maybe we
do a bracket of the biggest plays of the year
for the Seahawks. But the Zach Charbonay two point conversion,
I think you said was bigger right against the Rams.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
So the staburd to win the game.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Frankly, Okay, sharbon one too well, because the Sharbonney one
happened with six minutes to.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Go in the game.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I understand, and look at look at the I'm just
gonna say in Jackson, I'm not saying you're wrong at all.
By the way, Okay and Dick, whatever comes out of
your mouth, I probably agree with you. Go back and
look at the win probability. After Kenny Walker converted that
run on third and seventeen, it changed, It changed, and
it changed in the Seahawks favor. But I just think
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there's an argument to be made. Maybe it's an argument
that will eventually come back to your take. Jackson on
the sober two point point conversion against the Rams. I
wonder where that fricking run would rank on the all
time best moments of the year, because that broke them.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
It was, it would rank very, very high.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I mean when I go back to that Rams game though,
just being in the stadium, from deflation to elation in
five seconds, right, Rashid Shaheed oh Rashi, I took that
place from we are going to lose this game to
oh my god, We're a touchdown down with eight minutes left.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
We might win this game.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
All of a sudden, it's like, okay, let's go back
to our seats. Exactly right.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
People that were leaving the stadium to go to Jimmy's
like me, I'll admit it, I got.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
No problem gone, or did you?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I took off to mix up the mojo and go
across the street to a bar, and the minute we
walked into Jimmy's, it was just like the Packer game
in twenty fourteen. Everything started changing. We stayed there at
the bar, probably way too long and enjoyed that comeback
against the Rams. But just going back to what he
was saying last segment, and look, I'm just guys, I'm
just speaking for myself, and I feel like after thirty
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two years, I got to remind people of that. I'm
not telling you how to think. You think whatever the
hell you want to think. I got one mouth, Thank god,
I got one opinion, and it's mine. I don't want
to get into a habit or even think about, Hey,
if they lose the NFC Championship or they lose in
the second round, it's okay, because the Hawks are going
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to be fine down the road. I think they probably
will be, but god darn it, who knows what the
hell tomorrow is going to bring. Go ask the Lions
about that. The Lions led the forty nine ers twenty
four to ten. Remember that two years ago at halftime
of the NFC Championship, and now they're done. Go ask
the twenty fourteen Z one thousand percent. Go ask them
about that opportunity. So I just want to approach this
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playoff run guys, as if this is it. This is
the last time you got to sell balls out to
the wall. Win this thing. You know, what if they
come back next year and Sam Darnold gets hurt. What
if they have a massive of injuries like the Lions
did on defense last year and they're banged up. You
and I were talking off the year right about how
lucky they for the most part been.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Other than the first month of the season, this team
has been knock on woods, magically healthy.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
So how can we turn that down? We have to
take advantage of this, guys. This doesn't happen very often.
Where you're healthy, you're good, You're playing your best football
at the end of the year. And oh, by the way,
the league's wide open. Everything is setting up. I mean,
how do we know what Mahomes is going to do
next year, or Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or the
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Philadelphia Eagles or anybody.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yes, next season, the.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Vegles might pull their head out and Joe Burrow might
be turning the parody.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
In the NFL right now that I've seen in a decade.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
I don't think we're disagreeing with you, softie. I think
we're arguing semantics. I think I think what Dick and
I are saying is that it's a it's a disappointment
of a certain degree if we lose to anybody but
the Rams.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Versus losing the Rams are good.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
We can all agree we would all be disappointed if
they don't make the Super I just.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Don't want to changes. Yes, and I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I am just like the Mariners right with the run
they had a couple of years ago when they led
the league in era and didn't even.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
You know, Uh, go ask the freaking Pacers how they
feel right now?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Are you kidding me? Did they go to Game seven
last year? Yeah? And then Halliburton gets hurt and now
they they still almost won. Now they're terrible. They're one
of the worst teams. They are awful.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
All right, So guys, this I mean again, you do
what floats your own boat. But for me, this idea
that I'm gonna sit here and say, well, it's okay,
because that'll be good for a while.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
How the hell do I know that?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Right?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I think they will be, But nothing's freaking guaranteed, dude.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
All I know is that right now we have a
kick ass football team with a great freaking chance to
win another Lombardi.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I mean, I just think that. I don't disagree with
anything you're saying.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I just I think we've passed the point where the
twenty twenty five season can be looked at as a disappointment.
Though that for me, I mean, now, obviously that's your take. Obviously,
if Carol beats the Rams and comes here and wins,
that would feel a lot different than if the Rams
went to beat Carolina and came.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Here to win, A lot different.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
If something like that got it just makes you want
to vomit thinking about it. Right, If you talk about
letting the air in the balloon, holy cow, if something
like that happened, I think we're angry on the air Monday.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I think you're pissed off Carolina beats us.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I think you're doing a postgame show with you, and
I think you're you're angry. I think you're angry at
the football team. Well, because you're mad at the players.
You're pissed off at the players because.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
The only way they lose that game is if they
hand it to Carolina totally. That's kind of where Jackson
and I are, Whereas you don't have to hand the
games game to the Rams for the Rams to beat you.
The Rams can just beat you straight up. But the
Carolina Panthers need two, three, four massive mistakes by you in.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Order to come here and win.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
They would need you to show up like like Romart
would always talk about, with the cool jackets and just
walk in there. You don't have to do jack squad
and your energy is like sin, like you're just out
all night partying. You know, you don't care, you're not
sleeping whatever, didn't even shower.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
The hell with it.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I'm not even gonna wear pads, show up and just
do whatever I want. That would be a situation where
I think the fans would get really mad at this
football team, and you know what do I see? Like
you could offer me, honestly a million to one odds
on a dollar on that happening, and I probably wouldn't
take it.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
That'd be a waste of a dollar.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
That's how confide. McDonald does not show will never never.
I mean, I don't know if you guys have heard
like I have that. You know, Mike McDonald doesn't really
reveal a lot to the media.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
You guys know that, really, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I mean, he's not Pete Carroll right, kind of keeps
things close to the vest.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Aka is kind of boring, but that's okay. When game,
Why would he cares?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I've heard that he is a ball buster behind the scenes,
massive ballbuster.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I think you have to be that discipline.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Your ass about a lot of things, by the way,
behind the scenes. And for a thirty six year old
guy whatever he is, thirty seven now to do something
like that shows how much confidence he's got. That's why
just keeps, you know, all this stuff, Like I was
texting John Michael's our buddy Atlanta Fawcons. Apparently you're looking
at Clint Kubiak and guys, I would not hire Clint
Kubiak to be a head coach. I think there's a
lot of great assistant coaches out there that are lifers,
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that have the personality to be a mad scientist behind
the scenes, but they don't have the chops to be
a CEO and a commander of a football team, either
college level or the NFL. And I may be wrong,
but from the limited time Dick that I've seen and
been around Clint Kubiak, I don't see him as a
CEO of a football team. I see him as a
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button pushing, mad scientist lab rat that knows how to
scheme up on offense, knows how to put guys in
the right position. I think he's been great at it
this year. I'd like to see Clint stay somewhere for
the first time in five years and come back here
next season. I think Atlanta hiring him as a head
coach fan would be a mistake.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
There is a certain level of presence, There's a certain
level of charisma that I feel like an NFL coach
has to have, right and we have had that here
and certainly and Mike Holmgre and he had an amazing presence.
Car and Pete Carroll and Mike McDonald different but still
has that still has that presence, and that present is
only going to grow as his experience and his success grows.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I just don't know if Clint Kubiak has that.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I agree with that, and again I could be wrong.
And I don't know what Arthur Blank values. I mean,
he may just want the schematic guy. You know, he
may not give it. Them about his personality, I mean,
they say they had Arthur Smith down there and he
was boring as a box of rocks and just couldn't
motivate squat down there. So I don't know, man, I
just I mean, look, if he wants to do it,
and he gets off for the job, good for him.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
If he feels like he's ready, good for him. But
I think he's better off as an assistant. I think
he's better off staying here, being in OC somewhere else
if he wants to move on one day. All right,
we're gonna break textimonials. You cool that next segment, and
then Walter Jones set the joining us at five, we'll
do our Seahawk Opponent audio recap with the forty nine
(31:05):
er radio crew. Good god, how fun is this going
to be? Coming up? At five point twenty eight today,
right here on ninety three three KJRFL extremely
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Difficult, or they were so close, so close,
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