January 6, 2026 • 38 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler, Dick Fain, and Jackson Felts discuss Sam Darnold taking the Seahawks to the #1 seed and his season, Oregon’s National Championship hopes and chances in the final four, then listen and react to some Fun with Audio clips.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
It's funny, Jackson, Is that your name? Jackson?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We were sitting in the sports pit today before the
show began and the Mike McDonald news came down and
both the John Harbor the sorry John Harbon news, and
both of us looked at each other and said, you
know what, if this were a college football team, we'd
be crapping ourselves right now. It's a different world on
the name, totally crapping ourselves because Mike McDonald was there
for how many years, Jackson and Baltimore nine years total
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with the Ravens. You think they wouldn't love to have
Mike McDonald back right now replacing John Harbaugh. Well, they're
gonna call and they're gonna ask for permission, and they'll
get denied by the Seahawks. I mean, this is not
college football. This is not the idiot land of college football,
which just reminds you how dumb college football really is.
I mean, if you're under contract, you're under contract.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I mean, can you imagine.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
If the NFL had buyouts the way that college football does,
and we're all sitting here looking at Mike McDonald's deal. Dude,
the guy's got a four million dollar buyout. Man, that's nothing.
Ravens can pay that right away. He's walking out the
frickin doors. So thank god the NFL gets it right.
Unlike college football, Well.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
They can trade for how many first round draft picks
would we hate to give up for Mike McDonald?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I mean, what did Gruden?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Gruden got two? That's a great question. How many would
you take?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Ten?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Not ten?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Ten?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I'd take a lot more than Sam Donald.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I don't think I do anything to give him up.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I mean we've had this conversation before about Sam Donald
and Mike McDonald. So you asked me, you asked me,
just give me a number four first rounders.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Sure, Well that's what I talked about on your weeks
ago when we were talking Sam Donald.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I'm not doing it because again, guys, these first round
picks could turn out to be complete turd sandwiches that
are worth nothing.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You say that, although John Snyder's hit rate is pretty
damn good.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I understand that. But you've got you.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
But you you use those draft picks, and you spend
those draft picks to do what to find a quarterback
and to win football games?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You're already there.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Why would you even risk taking a step back to
take a step forward to get you right back to
where you're at today.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Well, there are many people out there listening. I know
because I've heard from him then saying Mike McDonald can
because he's Mike McDonald, and because John Schneider's John Schneider.
There's a lot of quarterbacks that this franchise can win
with with Mike McDonald, John Schneider and this defense. I'm
not saying I'm necessarily one of those people, but I
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know there are a ton of people out there that
feel that way.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Well, I think that's dumb. I mean, I just come out.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I'm sorry. I mean, I don't know what you people
are watching. I don't know what you're looking at. I mean,
you've got a guy that was just today by a
impartial entity Bovada named as the favorite to win the
Super Bowl MVP, and that's Sam Darnold.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I mean you got national radio guys coming out saying
we got a top ten quarterback in the NFL. I
saw a couple of accounts over the weekend that we're
kicking around the idea of the coach of the Year
and that Mike McDonald might be the best coach in
football right now. His resume obviously doesn't stack up the
guys that have been around a long time. I understand that,
but this is ludicrous, guys. I mean again, I'm never one,
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for the most part. Every now and then I'll violate
my own code. I think we all have a little
hypocrisy every now and then that comes out.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
We're human beings.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
But this idea that we're sitting here today on the
precipice of a number one seed at a Seahawk home
playoff game with fans for the first time since twenty sixteen,
and the favorite to win the Super Bowl for the
first time since probably twenty thirteen, at least fourteen by
the way, and we're here wondering if we could do
it with a different quarterback or a different head coach
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I'm telling you, there are people listening to this radio
show right now.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
How do you hear this show? It's just explained it
to me. How do you hear this show with your
head up your ass?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Is there a speaker inside your ass that amplifies the
radio program? When you put your own head up your
own ass? Does it make it more difficult or easier
to hear what's coming out of the mouth of me
and Dick and Jackson? And can you actually watch TV
and see what these guys are doing on Sundays with
your head up your own ass?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So, I mean, what are we doing here? First up,
we're not doing it. First up, we're not having that conversation.
But I think I just had it right. And why
are you the one complaining about it? I would I
would say this. I would say this. Yesterday, Softie, you
asked the question, is that what we'll keep the Seahawks
from winning a Super Bowl? You asked that question, and
it took me a few minutes, and it took me
(04:55):
a few hours to kind of think through it. Honestly
asked that question, Yeah you did and segment and I
kind of spent a long time thinking about it, and Honestly,
I kind of think the only thing that keeps the
seah Iws from winning the Super Bowl is mistakes by
Sam Darnold and and like and like that's kind of
where I'm at. So, you know, dot dot dot to
this question right here is you know if Yeah, I
(05:15):
think if there was a I think there's ten quarterbacks
in the NFL, you can win a Seat.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Bowl with Well, okay, let me just let me just
say this, and I mean this with all respect.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Okay, so just take this with a grain of salt.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Okay, the idea that the only thing that can derail
the Seahawks is mistakes by the quarterback, there's a lot
of teams that can say that, Jackson, Okay, I mean
if if the Buffalo Bills get pick sixes by Josh Allen,
if the Niners get fumbles return for touchdowns by Brock Purty.
I mean, we're not a testament my point, right, but
we're not exactly breaking new ground here, right. I mean
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the idea that this this football team can only be
beaten if their quarterback barfs on himself. I think there's
a lot of football teams that would probably say the
same thing.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And my point is this. My point is this is.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
That you're going to have to have a quarterback that
can do some pretty impressive things with the football. I
got PFF's numbers right in front of me. This guy's
one of the best deep ball passers in the NFL.
Would you rather have Gino Smith playing quarterback for this
football team right now? For how many more million dollars
a year? By the way, that ten million more? Are
you guys high? Are you kidding me? Like there should
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be no complaining, no bitching people.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Look if we.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Want to sit down and break this down like schematically
and say, hey, what could potentially derail the team? Okay, Jackson,
I'm fine having that conversation. But this idea that Sam
Darnold is some kind of a bum and that we're
all waiting for the guy to fall apart, I.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Just don't get it. Who's saying that? Are they need
then they need to just no, they need to pull
their heads out of their ass. That's the person I
was talking about.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Yes, But I mean, I think you're both right.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I think that's a I think Softie, what Softie's raising
is just a stupid argument that people have, Like that's
just like how many times do you need to see
Sam Donald play unbelievably in the fourth quarter in overtime
of huge games? Solid let you know that he is.
He is a gamer in those types of seditions.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
They win the RAMS game without him in.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Of course not of course not, but Jackson's right as well.
Like my number one concern would be the turnovers, my
number two concern is kind of holds hands with number one,
and that is what type of protection does he get?
The PFF Francis is the twentieth rank pass blocking unit
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Not great, not horrible, but low middle right.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And if that breaks down over the next couple three weeks,
and that turns into Sam Donald turnovers either fumbles like
we saw in the first San Francisco game or interceptions
because the pocket is muddied, then it's gonna be partially
on Donald and it is gonna be partially on the
pass play.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, I mean, PFF.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It's funny because PFF has got the Seahawks overall. As
you said, run blocking they got a greater fifteenth in
the NFL and ass blocking twentieth in the NFL. I mean,
I don't know what more an offensive line does besides
pass block or run block right, Like do they serve
ice cream sandwiches at halftime?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I mean, that's what they do.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Pro Football Focus is basically telling you that they think
that the Seahawks offensive line is below average overall, slightly overall.
They're telling you that they think they're below average. And
here we are, and I totally agree. What was it
you or you or me? I don't who it was?
Voices all blend together talked about the difference between this
offensive line that we talk about now and the one
that we had for three or four years.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I think it was you that said every year there.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Was offensive line's gonna suck, offensive line's gonna suck, And
now they kind of don't suck, right, And now we
know there's four guys coming back next year, you can
probably lock in his starters, Abe Lucas, Jalen Sundale.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I think.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I think Sundale definitely is able and definitely cross. So
three of the five for sure, maybe four of the five,
And who knows what they feel about Bradford. They may
feel like he is deserving of a shot next year.
I have no idea. I'd like to see that spot upgraded,
but that's just me. The point is that we are
beyond the dreading the offensive line getting overrun, aren't we? Yes,
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every single Sunday. We don't think they're phenomenal. We don't
think they're the best. They're not, you know, compared to
the twenty twenty three Husky offensive line. If there was
a Joe Moore Award for the NFL, they're not going
to win it. But they're also not awful anymore. And
that's a huge step from where these guys were. And
let's just say the Hawks have the.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Let's just say the thirtieth pick, right, They're gonna be
somewhere around there.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Let's say they have the thirtieth pick in the draft.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Well, there's only one position usually where you can still
a lot of years get the best player at that
position at the thirtieth pick in the draft, and that
is guard.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Right, that is guard.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So go do now, I'm you know, pushing away the
playoffs for second and looking at the draft. Go do
it right guard in the first round. What you did
it left guard in the first round last year?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, I mean, look, Gray's Abeles.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I mean he's been unbelievable, right, I mean, he's been
everything you wanted.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
The guy to be how many times? How often have
you heard his name?
Speaker 4 (10:01):
He had that one holding penalty in the last week.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I was like, what, Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Disable got called for a pedalty, Yeah, where he kind
of barely went around and was kind of grabbed him
on the Kenny Walker run.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
As all you're talking about a week.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But outside of that, I think we've all been pretty
freaking happy with the way Gray Zabels played this year.
And I just think again that there's this group of
folks and it's fine.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I mean, I get it. It's kind of what makes
this business work.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
To be honest with you, if if everybody who flipped
on sports talk radio every single day was totally content
with everything going on and happy, trust me, our listenership
would drop like a boulder.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Okay, So you need people like that.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You need the skeptical Lesto B's that are out there
watching this football team play. But I just don't know
what more you expected the Seahawks to accomplish over the offseason.
They've gone from Gino Smith to Sam Darnold in one year.
They've gone from an offensive line that three years ago
couldn't block anybody to three years later, an offensive line
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that is generally considered to be at least okay, which.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Is a gigantic step. They've gone from a guy in.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Pete Carroll who clearly, and I hate to say this
because I love Pete Carroll, his time in the NFL
probably should be over to maybe the next great thing
the NFL head coaching circles has to offer. Have you
seen some of the names getting kicked around for head
coach Johnson, I believe recycled craft the same names, Cliff Kingsbury, Vance,
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Joseph Brian Flores, Josh McDaniels, Cliff Kingsbury, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And here we have Mike McDonald, who.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Might be the most innovative, young, best defensive mind the
NFL has to offer. Look at the changes they've made,
look at the draft picks they've made. What they've been
able to accomplish in this city has been unbelievable. The
timing of dumping Russell Wilson before he signed his big contract,
the timing of moving on from Pete Carroll and hiring
Mike McDonald has been unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
By John Schneider, So I don't know, man, Look.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I get it. People are on edge. Maybe maybe they're
just skeptical lest bees, and that's where this comes from.
I get it if you're on edge and you're, you know,
strongly desiring another Lombardi, and I'm right there with you.
But this is a time where everybody who's a part
of this football team right now, and I'm talking about coaches, players,
support staff, everybody, everybody over there should be celebrated for
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what they just did. And if you don't think that
what you're seeing right now is good enough, your expectations
are just like your fricking head right up your own ass, unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Well, and I think that the timing that, sorry Jack,
the timing that.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
They like to me, I'm with you, Softy Carroll, the
timing that that he got fired was absolutely perfect. Because
Mike McDonald and Ben Johnson were available. They waited, good
waited they'd be gone. And look at what's out there
right now. They're interviewing Clint Kubiak for head coaching jobs.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
There is no Ben Jonson, there is no there is.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
No Mike McDonald out there right Why do we think
Clint Kubiak is getting a look as a head coach?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Because the Seahawks are fourteen and three.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Because of Sam Donald, because of Sam Donald, because of
John Schneider and the players he put around Sam Darnold,
and because this defense is good enough to let them
get to fourteen and three. Right, So if Clint Kubiak,
where was he at before us? Was he in Marzona?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
The Saints?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Let's say he stayed with the Saints and he's and
Kevin Moore decided for whatever reason?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
All right, Yeah, you can stay on as might play call.
Nobody's even knowing his name. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Nobody's talking about Clint Kubiak Dick if he's still with
the Saints.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Oh, You're exactly right.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Sometimes you need that timing and you got to make
the tough decisions, and John John Schneider made the tough
decision and everything has worked out even better than the
biggest optimist out there could have even.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Been for Yeah, I mean, like we said yesterday, this
is almost like a little bit too far ahead of
pace for this team. Right, Like if I would have
told you a year and a half ago when they
hired Mike McDonald hey Dick in January of twenty six,
they're going to be the number one seed in the NFC.
Have the best record in the NFL or the Broncos
also fourteen and three, by the way, so they'll be
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tied with Denver for the best record in the NFL.
They're gonna have a starting quarterback who's twenty eight and
six in his last thirty four starts in the regular season.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
You would have said that's ludicrous.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I mean, nobody does that like I think we need
to understand what John Schneider's doing is very rare. How
many general managers, off the top of your head, can
you name that had great success in the early part
of one decade and then waited another ten twelve years
to do it again?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
One is it Ozzie Knew? Is that right? Is there
anybody else that comes to mind?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Him?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And I'm sure if we did little research we could
find somebody. The Patriot who is the Patriots?
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Well?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Was Bill Belichi g GM the whole time? I said,
Bill Belichick the whole time?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I mean, and he had the greatest quarterback in the
history of the NFL. So how many general managers have
done what John Schneider has done? I mean, we talked
about this, Dick. I think you and I maybe a
couple weeks ago that if John Schneider makes the Super
Bowl this year, he's probably locked himself up as a
Hall of Fame executive. He might be a Hall of
Famer already, to be honest with you. But you know,
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that's a good question for Sando. If he makes the
Super Bowl this year, can we sharp beat John Schneider
in with a gold jack.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Three super Bowls in eleven.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yes, years, But that's the difference. Rights, It's a.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Totally new team, and I think that's even hard team.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
He talked about that with like NBA coaches, Right, We've
talked about that with guys who take over crap like
Larry Brown. How many college programs did he take over
that were crappy and lead him to the Final four
and do it again and again. To me, that's harder
than just staying at one spot and winning the whole time.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I think it's very difficult in the era of free
agency to do it. You know, Like people go back
and they say, well, look at what Tom Landry did. Okay,
but Tom Landry his players had nowhere to go. They
were locked in there, right, they were prisoners. They couldn't leave.
But for John Schneider to literally take a roster and
flip it over. Not just flip it over, but flip
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it over two or three times.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
This is not like he took four guys and staid,
give me a new fifty whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
This is a.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Totally different club, different leadership, different players, different coaches, different everything.
The only consistent theme in this entire process, I'm sorry,
has been John Schneider because Paul Allen passed away.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
And there's no players left. That's it.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
That's the only consistent theme.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
And for this guy to do this again, guys, I'll
be totally honest with you. I know I've used the
word ass a lot in the opening segment of this
radio show. And for all the kids out there and
the fathers and mothers who are offended, I apologize. Give
me your just shoot me an email to send you
five bucks to Taco time to make it up for you.
I don't think we spend enough time kissing his ass
on this radio station, because in this business, you know this,
(16:48):
we'll go the other way and rip guys when they
don't do well, will criticize them. And we spent the
entire offseason, at least a lot of us did, and
I will raise my hand.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I have no problem admitting it all right, he spent.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
The entire offseason wondering if John Schneider was the guy,
could he do it again? Does he have enough left
in the tank to build this thing back up? So
if we're gonna sit here for six months and be
skeptical of somebody, when the guy delivers, we have to
give him his praise and his credit. John Schneider is
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almost doing the impossible. Guys in the NFL, this doesn't
happen where a general manager sticks around this long and
has the dip that Schneider had, which, by the way,
wasn't that big of a dip comparatively speaking.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
But part of it was his own doing because trading
away his first round picks for guys like Jimmy Graham,
and he was a victim of his own harve standards
that he set for himself, right, there's no question about that.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Like going nine and eight, nine and seven wasn't good enough.
But I don't think we spend enough time on this
radio show kissing that guy's butt. He freaking deserves it.
So we are damn lucky to have him in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
This is two general managers in the last six months
that were like kissing their butt. Right, we did it
with Jerry all fall off, so we're doing it with
John Snyder. Now we're in such a good mood right now.
Let me just let me just fast forward, let's say
two three months, and let me paint this picture. Is
that the Seattle Mariners are going in is one of
the top two favorites to get back to the World
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Series from the American League. The Seattle Seahawks are coming
off of Super Bowl Championship. The announcement has come from
Adam Silver that the songs are returning, and then everything else.
We Seattle then becomes the face of the global sports world.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I mean, the Mariners have a lot of work to
do to catch up to John Schneider. Okay, yes, they
have a lot of work to do right now.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
My point was that we kissed Jerry to Poto's ass, rightfully,
so for the last three months of the season for sure,
since the trade.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Dead, and he deserves it.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
But again, I mean, you know, look, I mean the
whole point of and I don't want to get off
track here, but the whole point of that tear down
by the Mariners, I think we'll agree, wasn't to make
Game seven of the AOC. Yes, it was to get
to a World Series and win it, right, that was
the So I mean, look, we we could very well
be sitting here. Nobody would be surprised if in five
weeks from now we're sitting here talking about the Seahawks
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having a parade, and the parade might even be today,
on this Tuesday, by the way, we could be literally
sitting here in six weeks with a parade.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Is it going to be four degrees like it was
the last time?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I just.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
For people that aren't satisfied with this, I don't know
what more you could have expected.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Honestly, I just really don't. Well, there are a Super.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Bowl championship or bust. People out there that think you're
season is a failure.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
If you don't win a sum And I told you
guys yesterday, I'm going to be disappointed if the Seahawks
don't make the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
That's you know, and I understand that.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
But I'm just talking about like, if you're if you're
not happy with the move from Gino Smith to Sam Darnold,
what did you think you should have gotten Patrick Mahomes and.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
His prime Joe Montana, Dan Marino.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I mean honestly, like, if this isn't good enough to
jump from Gino to same, if that's not good enough
to please you, what would please you? In reality? What
would please you? We're gonna break what we got today.
Ray Roberts joins at four, John Wilner at five.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Some bad news for the Orgon Ducks, by the way,
which is good news for us.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Coming up on ninety three three KJRFM from the.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
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Speaker 1 (20:32):
All right, a lot to get to you on a
busy Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Ray Roberts, some former Seahawk offensive alignment will join us
coming up at four o'clock this afternoon for some Seahawk conversation.
John Wilner will join us as well. One of the
conversations we will have with John. You see the big
news involving the depth at running back for the Oregon
Ducks today, Jordan Davidson's got a broken clavicle.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
He scored a touchdown last week.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I had two against Sexast Tech yeah, ten carries ninety
yards against JMU, couple of touchdowns against Tessa Texas Tech.
And they still have Whitnington obviously, but Jordan Davidson likely
not going to play in the game on Friday. And
I want to get a take from you guys if
you feel the same way I do, because there's a
couple of people that have asked me, would you take
an Oregon National championship if it meant the Seahawks won
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the Super Bowl? And I said absolutely, yes, yes, one
hundred percent, I would do it.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Now part of it makes you want to vomit in
your own mouth as soon as it is to raise
the zero sign over your head. Yes for the National
champions Yes, that.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Would be over.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And there's a lot of Oregon Duck fans, by the way,
I just have you guys know that you not that
you don't know this, that are also Seahawk fans. By
the way, tons of Oregon fans are also Seahawk fans
and Mariner fans, and they used to be Sonic fans
back in the day. But the point is this, I'm
not I don't have and maybe it's because of what's
going on with the Seahawks right now, and it's kind
of like a you know, big shiny ball distracting me.
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I don't have as much angst over the Oregon situation
now as I have in years past. Wow, you guys
with me on.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
That, because what you just said, Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent,
My ninety nine percent of my sports attention right now
is on the Seattle Seawks. Maybe it's one hundred and
the reality is that the college football Playoff, I honestly,
I really just don't care. Like I get it at
Indiana Oregon should be a very good football game, and
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I ole miss Miami, I guess mildly interesting.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I just don't even care. Well, because here's the thing,
it's the Seahawks. I can sit here and tell you
that right now I don't have as much angst over
Oregon potentially winning as I normally have. And then they
could go out in three weeks, two weeks from now,
whenever it is, and win it, and I might want
to walk into traffic. I might feel totally different when
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that day actually shows up. Like going into the Rose
Bowl last year against Ohio State. You guys, remember, I
was paranoid as hell that Oregon was going to win
the National Championship and when they fell behind the gazillion
to nothing at a half time, it was the greatest
day of my life.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I was like, this is unbelieva, you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And I don't know. I'm just I'm not I'm not
in knots over the idea of Oregon winning a title.
As much as I have been in years past, I
definitely do not, under any circumstances want to see it.
But I don't have as much angst about it today
as I did this time a year ago.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I think I think I've just figured out why. Why
Because last year we truly believe that they had a
national championship team.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
They were number one.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yes, this year, I don't, I do not think that
they will beat Indiana. Maybe I do not think they
would win the national championship if they did beat Indiana.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I think they are.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I think they are very good defense and a limited offense.
I've thought that all year long. I saw them in
person in front of my dogs. They were a limited
offense in front of my dogs, and they're going to
be a limited offense in front of Indiana this way.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, and look, I mean they're still as close as
they've been since they they played who Auburn in the
national championship game. This is the closest they've been to
a national title. Have they been in the title game
since that game?
Speaker 5 (24:08):
When?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I don't They lost to cam Newton.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Oh Oregon's the Ohio State augustin the title game. Yeah,
for first year of the CFP, right, twenty fourteen? Is
that correct? Right?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Didn't they face Ohio? Yes, they lost in twenty fourteen? Yeah, correct.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
They lost the BCS championship to cam Newton in twenty ten.
They lost the CFP Championship to Oregon in twenty fourteen.
So here's the point. This is the closest they've been
since then in eleven years. And I, Dick, I agree
with you that there's been better Oregon teams than what
we're seeing now.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I think each of the last two teams were better
than this Oregon team.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Unfortunately, this Oregon team isn't going up against the competition
that those Oregon teams went up against.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Indiana might be that guy.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I like Indiana a lot.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
That might be.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I think Indiana's gonna beat him. I think Indiana the
line of scrimmage will prove to be more physical they'll
prove to be deeper, and I think that will beat
them on Friday Night in Atlanta. But it would not
stun the hell out of me if the Indiana magic
carpet ride came to an end and Oregon won the
game on Friday and played for the national title.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
My worry level going into last year's playoffs was an
eight and a half out of ten that this thing
is not gonna happen, That this thing is gonna happen
for Oregon.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
That's not now.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Four. If they beat Indiana, it goes to about a
seven or a seven and a half. But I still
don't think they beat Miami in Miami. If Miami takes
care of Old Miss, and like you said, it's a
home game for Miami in the National Championship.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I just think nothing would surprise me right now in
college football, right with the way this whole thing is gone,
the way the bracket's gone him in Ohio States, I
thought Georgia was gonna win the whole thing. I never
thought they'd lose to Ole Miss in the second round. Never,
and they're done.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Man.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I mean, you know, it's just crazy how the parody
in college football and the parody in the NFL. They're
both showing their heads at the same time in the
same season, so nothing would surprise me. But you know,
whatever the reason is, you've got your reason. You've got
your reason. I don't even know what my reason is.
I just know the way I feel right, and the
way I feel is that I just don't have as
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much angst over this. I'm not I'm not sitting around
freaking out Like when the Thunder we're about to win
the NBA Championship.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
That had me extremely bummed because we knew they were.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
The betremely okay, So this Oregon thing, if they do it,
they freaking do it at some point in my lifetime.
To those bastards are gonna win a title at some point.
It's gonna happen. All right, it'd be great if it didn't.
We can hold that over their head forever. But aren't
we convinced at some point us it's gonna happen. Much money,
They're going to win at some point. So if it
happens this year, it may as well happen in a year,
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Jackson where the Seahawks can distract us with a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
And that's the thing. If the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
You know, we're you know, lined up for the number
ten pick in the draft, right and our.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Season was on.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Can you imagine we'd be focusing really not yet on
the draft, we'd be focusing on our ri like Mariners
in a couple of months. And do we really have
to look at what's going on right now in the
final four.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Because that would be the attention.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
We haven't talked to any CFP really because of what
because of the sis? It's just like the Mariners, right,
you know, you don't talk a lot of football in
October because the Mariners are kicking ass and they're on
the doorstep of a stinking world.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Now, why you're not paying attention to Justson this particular
year is because the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Because because the nation's paying attention.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
The ratings are off the hook games and not only that,
the ratings where I talk to Wilner about this at five,
the ratings for the Bowl games. Everybody says ball games
don't matter anymore, ball games should go away. The ratings
for the Bowl games were unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yes, the Rose Bull ratings between Alabama and Indiana, I
think I saw a stat where they outdrew like Game
seven of the NBA Finals, like fivefold, twenty two million,
ridiculous how many people.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Tuned in to watch that game? So, hey, people are watching.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
But again, we're talking about us, right, We're talking about
us here in Seattle, and I think Jackson, you're probably
right that we are distracted by Thewks. If the Seahawks
were done, we'd be sitting here and we'd be talking
about Hey, listen, you're tuning into your home for Indiana football. Okay,
there you are, right, whatever, that's what we'd be doing.
We would have had the James Madison head coach on
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the air. We would have talked about them and all that,
and so, thank god, thank god the Seahawks are giving
us this run, because you know what, it actually gets
kind of tiresome, does it not after a while every
single year, when your season's over and your NFL team
is done before the playoffs even get going, really in earnest,
the one thing that you turn to is sports hate
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to keep you occupied. And right now we're not turning
to sports hate, and it kind.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Of feels good.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
We'll get a break a little fun with audio next.
Ray Roberts at four on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
It's now time for Sufday in Digg's Fun with Audio.
Jimmy g Pawt Star Jimmy mister daroppolo. Now let's have
some fun with audio.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
All right, we're back on a busy Tuesday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Ray Roberts joining us.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Coming up next segment right here, talks from Seahawks as
we wait and wait and wait and wait and wait.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
To see who the Seahawks play. And then we wait
and wait and wait and wait to.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
See them play. The wait is killing me already, man
for sure. All Right, here we go a little fun
with audio slash. Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick,
did you.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Dave?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
By the way, I don't forget today as a cracking
ticket Tuesday, I gotta remember to say that Jackson did
remind me?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I got distracted by the segment we're doing here.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
We haven't done it this hour, by the way, so
stay tuned between now and the next like five minutes.
Montana State beat Illinois State last night in a wild
FCS National championship, and the final seconds in overtime the
game saw a block, game winning field goal, a fourth down,
game time touchdown by a player named Taco, and a
game winning extra point. Here was the call on ESPN
by our old buddy, Dave Fleming and former Seahawks. Did
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brock Osweiler played for the Seahawks or was that Paxton
Lynch actly that played for the Seahawks former ASU Sun devil?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
For sure, brock Osweiler his second career start at Illinois State.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Snap hold kick is booked, It's on the turf.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
HiT's stoked up. He returned to the forty five of
Illinois State. Exeth Johnson comes up of the ball, four.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Down and over time they bring pressure lamps and throws
heads un touchdown.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Talk to dun.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Miles Sandsteed snap hold kick Dad for a national championship.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's very cool. Fleming's great man. He's just a phenomenal broadcaster.
And it is unbelievable to me how there is such
an appetite for sports broadcasting right now. I mean, there
was nothing else on last night. Right I'm gonna got
great ratings. It's unbelievable. So good call by them to
put that game on Monday night. And I wonder if
now this is going to be kind of a staple
that Hey, between the NFL Playoffs and the College football
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semi Finals, we all gather around the telly on a
Monday night and we watched the FCS National Championship game.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
I think the FCS National Championship will at one point
involve people like Oregon State and Washington State and Iowa State.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I'm just saying, you know, Cougar fans are also Seahawk
fans are having a good time. They're enjoying themselves, and
you just came and just pissed right on their parade.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Oh my god, unbelievable up and shows violence.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
I mean, wouldn't you want to win a national championship?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I mean, if you were a fan of those teams
would win a national championship, Well, you're nuts. Three teams
and about forty others now have zero z ro o
chance to win a national champ unless they join that.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, well I think they have a better shot. You
know what.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
That's a good conversation for John Wilner at five because
James Madison just made the College Football Playoff because they
have to.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
They got hammered.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I understand that, right, But who's got a better shot
of winning a national championship Washington in the Big ten
long term or the Cougars in the Pac twelve long term?
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Are you.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
That's an interesting question.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, I think John is going to surprise you with
his answer. By I think John's going to definitely surprise
you with his answer on who's got a better chance
of participating in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
He's going to say the Pac twelve.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
You just said, Wazoo, Yeah, both of them.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Both of them? He might say, both, Dick. I'm not
saying I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I'm just saying that, with the way this thing is
set up, are the Cougars more likely to finish near
the top of the Pac twelve and get themselves into
the playoff or are the Huskies more apt to finish
into the top three to four of the Big ten
and get themselves in the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Right?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
There is the interesting question.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Because it's very easy for a you know, a bad
Cougar team to win a bad conference.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Huskies are always going to have a hard.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Time getting into the playoff. Well, the Huskies.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Do we agree that it's going to sixteen teams very soon?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Okay, Well, the Huskies have been in the top sixteen
of the poll going into the playoffs five times in
the last ten years. We know that's not how it
exactly will play out, because if James Madison's they'll give
spots to teams win lower sixteen, it won't be.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
That just that it should be, but it won't be.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
It'll be twelve or thirteen of the top sixteen and
then three other teams from somewhere else exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Well, Okay, then conservatively it's three times out of ten years,
and so the Cougars would have to win. You're telling
me that the Cougars are going to win more than
thirty percent of all the Pac twelve championship.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I have no idea this with with these other teams
coming in, I don't have any clue what this thing
is going to look like. Is it possible they could
dominate that conference?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Because if possible, they have a hard time. Yeah. Again,
And that's why I'm not I'm willing to repeat after
me and say three words.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I'm willing to dance with you on the on the
berths into the tournament.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I'm not willing to dance on.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Any not just Washington State, any of the non power
for schools winning a national championship more so than a
Power two school.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, that's fair, but I still think again, if they're
having a better chance of getting in, they're giving themselves
more opportunities. And with the with the nil thing and
the portal. Look, I don't think Wazu was ever gonna
have any money to spend like Indiana is spending, for
God's sakes. But I think there's a big curiosity for
me on how they do in that conference for sure.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Hear that Marcus Spears was on NFL Live on ESPN
yesterday and did not give the Carolina Panthers any chance
of beating the Rams in the first run of the
playoffs this weekend.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
The Panther's like a piece of candy somebody throw out
the school yard and somebody find it on the concrete,
Like I got some candy.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Okay, they're not supposed to be out there, like.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
It's just it's just I'm still is the candy unwrapped
in this?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
What happened there? I think my computer stross now that
happened yesterday?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Did this yesterday?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I got the funny part though out that was good
So the point is is that the Panthers really don't.
You want to touch him, you'll get you'll get something
you'll pick up, you know, some kind of virus or whatever.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Carolina Panthers are the James Madison of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, they're pretty bad, man. I mean when they played
the Seahawks, I was like, yeah, I'm not impressed. They
look they looked like a team, did they not that
were only in the playoffs because somebody from that division
had to be a playoffs exactly right. And I would
be pretty surprised if the Rams lost to them. I
would not be surprised if it was a closer game
than what people are making it out to be. I
think the Rams are ten point favorites in this game.
I just think anytime you take a team like that
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and you put them on grass right away from their
place in Carolina outdoors versus indoors. I have no idea
what the weather is going to be like this weekend
down there. If it's raining like crazy, but I think
the Rams will win. Yes, I would not. I would be,
just like you, very surprised if the Panthers won that.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
My knee jerk reaction is always to take the big
dog in a playoff game, particularly at home. But then
I just look at those two teams and I'm like, Okay,
how in the world are the Panthers going to be
within ten points at the end of the game against
the Rams.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Well, they could be down sixteen to seventeen points and
get a garbage touchdown. By the way, the Panthers play
on turf, So I just want to correct myself.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Dick?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
From the NFL Network yesterday, Former Seahawk fullback Michael Robinson
discussed how dangerous the Seahawks team is to win the
NFC and the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
They're extremely dangerous. And I won't say this too especially
about the Seahawks defense. We need to stop comparing them
to the Legion of Boom. This is their this is
their time. This is the current Seahawks teams. This the
current Seahawks defense's time. They aren't the Legion of Boom.
They're their own animal. Yeah, Okay, they gotta stop. You know,
they're not living in our shadow anymore. They're their own animal.
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And I think when you have a championship defense like this,
when you can run the football, you can gain the
blade of grass whenever you want it, and you have
a coach who's like.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
A boy genius.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
When you talk about, you know, scheming things to attack
opposing offenses, they're gonna be very difficult to deal with.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah, I mean, I had a conversation with somebody who
said this is better than the LOB. I was like, guys,
come on, they led the NFL in scoring defense four
years in a row, which had never been done until then,
and now you're expecting it to happen again ten years later.
Someone's going to lead the NFL in scoring defense for
four years in a row. And I don't think the
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NFL looks the difference with this defense versus that LOB.
We really probably should have this conversation when the season's over.
To be honest with you, that LOB defense played the
greatest scoring offense in the history of the NFL and
crapped all over them in the Super Bowl. That is
what makes that defense different than the Chicago Bears and
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the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
But if this team wins three more games and the
defense is the reason for it, right, that talk will
be the number one NFL talking to for the next
six months.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
But who who in the AFC offensively is comparable to
the twenty thirteen Denver Broncos. Nobodyody, right, and they, I
mean they probably should have shut them out, to be
honest with you, in that game.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
And that's never been done in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
So you you show me a defense that leads the
NFL in scoring, and then you show me that same
defense that shut down the highest scoring offense in the
history of pro football, and then we can start having
that conversation.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
We're gonna break.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Ray Roberts joins next on ninety three to three KJARFM.
Go big thanks to Dukes.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
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think mid next week is what John said, And they're
going away until the fall of next year, until the
winter of next year. So jump on the web and
get yourself at table Dukeseafood dot com and definitely try
those barbecue pork ribs.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It's funny, Jackson, Is that your name? Jackson?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We were sitting in the sports pit today before the
show began and the Mike McDonald news came down and
both the John Harbor the sorry John Harbon news, and
both of us looked at each other and said, you
know what, if this were a college football team, we'd
be crapping ourselves right now. It's a different world on
the name, totally crapping ourselves because Mike McDonald was there
for how many years, Jackson and Baltimore nine years total
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with the Ravens. You think they wouldn't love to have
Mike McDonald back right now replacing John Harbaugh. Well, they're
gonna call and they're gonna ask for permission, and they'll
get denied by the Seahawks. I mean, this is not
college football. This is not the idiot land of college football,
which just reminds you how dumb college football really is.
I mean, if you're under contract, you're under contract.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I mean, can you imagine.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
If the NFL had buyouts the way that college football does,
and we're all sitting here looking at Mike McDonald's deal. Dude,
the guy's got a four million dollar buyout. Man, that's nothing.
Ravens can pay that right away. He's walking out the
frickin doors. So thank god the NFL gets it right.
Unlike college football, Well.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
They can trade for how many first round draft picks
would we hate to give up for Mike McDonald?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I mean, what did Gruden?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Gruden got two? That's a great question. How many would
you take?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Ten?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Not ten?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Ten?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I'd take a lot more than Sam Donald.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I don't think I do anything to give him up.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I mean we've had this conversation before about Sam Donald
and Mike McDonald. So you asked me, you asked me,
just give me a number four first rounders.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Sure, Well that's what I talked about on your weeks
ago when we were talking Sam Donald.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I'm not doing it because again, guys, these first round
picks could turn out to be complete turd sandwiches that
are worth nothing.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You say that, although John Snyder's hit rate is pretty
damn good.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I understand that. But you've got you.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
But you you use those draft picks, and you spend
those draft picks to do what to find a quarterback
and to win football games?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You're already there.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Why would you even risk taking a step back to
take a step forward to get you right back to
where you're at today.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Well, there are many people out there listening. I know
because I've heard from him then saying Mike McDonald can
because he's Mike McDonald, and because John Schneider's John Schneider.
There's a lot of quarterbacks that this franchise can win
with with Mike McDonald, John Schneider and this defense. I'm
not saying I'm necessarily one of those people, but I
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know there are a ton of people out there that
feel that way.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Well, I think that's dumb. I mean, I just come out.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I'm sorry. I mean, I don't know what you people
are watching. I don't know what you're looking at. I mean,
you've got a guy that was just today by a
impartial entity Bovada named as the favorite to win the
Super Bowl MVP, and that's Sam Darnold.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I mean you got national radio guys coming out saying
we got a top ten quarterback in the NFL. I
saw a couple of accounts over the weekend that we're
kicking around the idea of the coach of the Year
and that Mike McDonald might be the best coach in
football right now. His resume obviously doesn't stack up the
guys that have been around a long time. I understand that,
but this is ludicrous, guys. I mean again, I'm never one,
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for the most part. Every now and then I'll violate
my own code. I think we all have a little
hypocrisy every now and then that comes out.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
We're human beings.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
But this idea that we're sitting here today on the
precipice of a number one seed at a Seahawk home
playoff game with fans for the first time since twenty sixteen,
and the favorite to win the Super Bowl for the
first time since probably twenty thirteen, at least fourteen by
the way, and we're here wondering if we could do
it with a different quarterback or a different head coach
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I'm telling you, there are people listening to this radio
show right now.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
How do you hear this show? It's just explained it
to me. How do you hear this show with your
head up your ass?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Is there a speaker inside your ass that amplifies the
radio program? When you put your own head up your
own ass? Does it make it more difficult or easier
to hear what's coming out of the mouth of me
and Dick and Jackson? And can you actually watch TV
and see what these guys are doing on Sundays with
your head up your own ass?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So, I mean, what are we doing here? First up,
we're not doing it. First up, we're not having that conversation.
But I think I just had it right. And why
are you the one complaining about it? I would I
would say this. I would say this. Yesterday, Softie, you
asked the question, is that what we'll keep the Seahawks
from winning a Super Bowl? You asked that question, and
it took me a few minutes, and it took me
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a few hours to kind of think through it. Honestly
asked that question, Yeah you did and segment and I
kind of spent a long time thinking about it, and Honestly,
I kind of think the only thing that keeps the
seah Iws from winning the Super Bowl is mistakes by
Sam Darnold and and like and like that's kind of
where I'm at. So, you know, dot dot dot to
this question right here is you know if Yeah, I
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think if there was a I think there's ten quarterbacks
in the NFL, you can win a Seat.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Bowl with Well, okay, let me just let me just
say this, and I mean this with all respect.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Okay, so just take this with a grain of salt.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Okay, the idea that the only thing that can derail
the Seahawks is mistakes by the quarterback, there's a lot
of teams that can say that, Jackson, Okay, I mean
if if the Buffalo Bills get pick sixes by Josh Allen,
if the Niners get fumbles return for touchdowns by Brock Purty.
I mean, we're not a testament my point, right, but
we're not exactly breaking new ground here, right. I mean
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the idea that this this football team can only be
beaten if their quarterback barfs on himself. I think there's
a lot of football teams that would probably say the
same thing.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And my point is this. My point is this is.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
That you're going to have to have a quarterback that
can do some pretty impressive things with the football. I
got PFF's numbers right in front of me. This guy's
one of the best deep ball passers in the NFL.
Would you rather have Gino Smith playing quarterback for this
football team right now? For how many more million dollars
a year? By the way, that ten million more? Are
you guys high? Are you kidding me? Like there should
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be no complaining, no bitching people.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Look if we.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Want to sit down and break this down like schematically
and say, hey, what could potentially derail the team? Okay, Jackson,
I'm fine having that conversation. But this idea that Sam
Darnold is some kind of a bum and that we're
all waiting for the guy to fall apart, I.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Just don't get it. Who's saying that? Are they need
then they need to just no, they need to pull
their heads out of their ass. That's the person I
was talking about.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Yes, But I mean, I think you're both right.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I think that's a I think Softie, what Softie's raising
is just a stupid argument that people have, Like that's
just like how many times do you need to see
Sam Donald play unbelievably in the fourth quarter in overtime
of huge games? Solid let you know that he is.
He is a gamer in those types of seditions.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
They win the RAMS game without him in.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Of course not of course not, but Jackson's right as well.
Like my number one concern would be the turnovers, my
number two concern is kind of holds hands with number one,
and that is what type of protection does he get?
The PFF Francis is the twentieth rank pass blocking unit
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Not great, not horrible, but low middle right.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And if that breaks down over the next couple three weeks,
and that turns into Sam Donald turnovers either fumbles like
we saw in the first San Francisco game or interceptions
because the pocket is muddied, then it's gonna be partially
on Donald and it is gonna be partially on the
pass play.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, I mean, PFF.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It's funny because PFF has got the Seahawks overall. As
you said, run blocking they got a greater fifteenth in
the NFL and ass blocking twentieth in the NFL. I mean,
I don't know what more an offensive line does besides
pass block or run block right, Like do they serve
ice cream sandwiches at halftime?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I mean, that's what they do.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Pro Football Focus is basically telling you that they think
that the Seahawks offensive line is below average overall, slightly overall.
They're telling you that they think they're below average. And
here we are, and I totally agree. What was it
you or you or me? I don't who it was?
Voices all blend together talked about the difference between this
offensive line that we talk about now and the one
that we had for three or four years.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I think it was you that said every year there.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Was offensive line's gonna suck, offensive line's gonna suck, And
now they kind of don't suck, right, And now we
know there's four guys coming back next year, you can
probably lock in his starters, Abe Lucas, Jalen Sundale.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I think.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I think Sundale definitely is able and definitely cross. So
three of the five for sure, maybe four of the five,
And who knows what they feel about Bradford. They may
feel like he is deserving of a shot next year.
I have no idea. I'd like to see that spot upgraded,
but that's just me. The point is that we are
beyond the dreading the offensive line getting overrun, aren't we? Yes,
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every single Sunday. We don't think they're phenomenal. We don't
think they're the best. They're not, you know, compared to
the twenty twenty three Husky offensive line. If there was
a Joe Moore Award for the NFL, they're not going
to win it. But they're also not awful anymore. And
that's a huge step from where these guys were. And
let's just say the Hawks have the.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Let's just say the thirtieth pick, right, They're gonna be
somewhere around there.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Let's say they have the thirtieth pick in the draft.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Well, there's only one position usually where you can still
a lot of years get the best player at that
position at the thirtieth pick in the draft, and that
is guard.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Right, that is guard.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So go do now, I'm you know, pushing away the
playoffs for second and looking at the draft. Go do
it right guard in the first round. What you did
it left guard in the first round last year?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, I mean, look, Gray's Abeles.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I mean he's been unbelievable, right, I mean, he's been
everything you wanted.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
The guy to be how many times? How often have
you heard his name?
Speaker 4 (10:01):
He had that one holding penalty in the last week.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I was like, what, Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Disable got called for a pedalty, Yeah, where he kind
of barely went around and was kind of grabbed him
on the Kenny Walker run.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
As all you're talking about a week.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But outside of that, I think we've all been pretty
freaking happy with the way Gray Zabels played this year.
And I just think again that there's this group of
folks and it's fine.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I mean, I get it. It's kind of what makes
this business work.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
To be honest with you, if if everybody who flipped
on sports talk radio every single day was totally content
with everything going on and happy, trust me, our listenership
would drop like a boulder.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Okay, So you need people like that.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You need the skeptical Lesto B's that are out there
watching this football team play. But I just don't know
what more you expected the Seahawks to accomplish over the offseason.
They've gone from Gino Smith to Sam Darnold in one year.
They've gone from an offensive line that three years ago
couldn't block anybody to three years later, an offensive line
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that is generally considered to be at least okay, which.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Is a gigantic step. They've gone from a guy in.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Pete Carroll who clearly, and I hate to say this
because I love Pete Carroll, his time in the NFL
probably should be over to maybe the next great thing
the NFL head coaching circles has to offer. Have you
seen some of the names getting kicked around for head
coach Johnson, I believe recycled craft the same names, Cliff Kingsbury, Vance,
(11:24):
Joseph Brian Flores, Josh McDaniels, Cliff Kingsbury, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And here we have Mike McDonald, who.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Might be the most innovative, young, best defensive mind the
NFL has to offer. Look at the changes they've made,
look at the draft picks they've made. What they've been
able to accomplish in this city has been unbelievable. The
timing of dumping Russell Wilson before he signed his big contract,
the timing of moving on from Pete Carroll and hiring
Mike McDonald has been unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
By John Schneider, So I don't know, man, Look.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I get it. People are on edge. Maybe maybe they're
just skeptical lest bees, and that's where this comes from.
I get it if you're on edge and you're, you know,
strongly desiring another Lombardi, and I'm right there with you.
But this is a time where everybody who's a part
of this football team right now, and I'm talking about coaches, players,
support staff, everybody, everybody over there should be celebrated for
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what they just did. And if you don't think that
what you're seeing right now is good enough, your expectations
are just like your fricking head right up your own ass, unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Well, and I think that the timing that, sorry Jack,
the timing that.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
They like to me, I'm with you, Softy Carroll, the
timing that that he got fired was absolutely perfect. Because
Mike McDonald and Ben Johnson were available. They waited, good
waited they'd be gone. And look at what's out there
right now. They're interviewing Clint Kubiak for head coaching jobs.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
There is no Ben Jonson, there is no there is.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
No Mike McDonald out there right Why do we think
Clint Kubiak is getting a look as a head coach?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Because the Seahawks are fourteen and three.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Because of Sam Donald, because of Sam Donald, because of
John Schneider and the players he put around Sam Darnold,
and because this defense is good enough to let them
get to fourteen and three. Right, So if Clint Kubiak,
where was he at before us? Was he in Marzona?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
The Saints?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Let's say he stayed with the Saints and he's and
Kevin Moore decided for whatever reason?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
All right, Yeah, you can stay on as might play call.
Nobody's even knowing his name. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Nobody's talking about Clint Kubiak Dick if he's still with
the Saints.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Oh, You're exactly right.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Sometimes you need that timing and you got to make
the tough decisions, and John John Schneider made the tough
decision and everything has worked out even better than the
biggest optimist out there could have even.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Been for Yeah, I mean, like we said yesterday, this
is almost like a little bit too far ahead of
pace for this team. Right, Like if I would have
told you a year and a half ago when they
hired Mike McDonald hey Dick in January of twenty six,
they're going to be the number one seed in the NFC.
Have the best record in the NFL or the Broncos
also fourteen and three, by the way, so they'll be
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tied with Denver for the best record in the NFL.
They're gonna have a starting quarterback who's twenty eight and
six in his last thirty four starts in the regular season.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
You would have said that's ludicrous.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I mean, nobody does that like I think we need
to understand what John Schneider's doing is very rare. How
many general managers, off the top of your head, can
you name that had great success in the early part
of one decade and then waited another ten twelve years
to do it again?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
One is it Ozzie Knew? Is that right? Is there
anybody else that comes to mind?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Him?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And I'm sure if we did little research we could
find somebody. The Patriot who is the Patriots?
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Well?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Was Bill Belichi g GM the whole time? I said,
Bill Belichick the whole time?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I mean, and he had the greatest quarterback in the
history of the NFL. So how many general managers have
done what John Schneider has done? I mean, we talked
about this, Dick. I think you and I maybe a
couple weeks ago that if John Schneider makes the Super
Bowl this year, he's probably locked himself up as a
Hall of Fame executive. He might be a Hall of
Famer already, to be honest with you. But you know,
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that's a good question for Sando. If he makes the
Super Bowl this year, can we sharp beat John Schneider
in with a gold jack.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Three super Bowls in eleven.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yes, years, But that's the difference. Rights, It's a.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Totally new team, and I think that's even hard team.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
He talked about that with like NBA coaches, Right, We've
talked about that with guys who take over crap like
Larry Brown. How many college programs did he take over
that were crappy and lead him to the Final four
and do it again and again. To me, that's harder
than just staying at one spot and winning the whole time.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I think it's very difficult in the era of free
agency to do it. You know, Like people go back
and they say, well, look at what Tom Landry did. Okay,
but Tom Landry his players had nowhere to go. They
were locked in there, right, they were prisoners. They couldn't leave.
But for John Schneider to literally take a roster and
flip it over. Not just flip it over, but flip
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it over two or three times.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
This is not like he took four guys and staid,
give me a new fifty whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
This is a.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Totally different club, different leadership, different players, different coaches, different everything.
The only consistent theme in this entire process, I'm sorry,
has been John Schneider because Paul Allen passed away.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
And there's no players left. That's it.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
That's the only consistent theme.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
And for this guy to do this again, guys, I'll
be totally honest with you. I know I've used the
word ass a lot in the opening segment of this
radio show. And for all the kids out there and
the fathers and mothers who are offended, I apologize. Give
me your just shoot me an email to send you
five bucks to Taco time to make it up for you.
I don't think we spend enough time kissing his ass
on this radio station, because in this business, you know this,
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we'll go the other way and rip guys when they
don't do well, will criticize them. And we spent the
entire offseason, at least a lot of us did, and
I will raise my hand.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I have no problem admitting it all right, he spent.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
The entire offseason wondering if John Schneider was the guy,
could he do it again? Does he have enough left
in the tank to build this thing back up? So
if we're gonna sit here for six months and be
skeptical of somebody, when the guy delivers, we have to
give him his praise and his credit. John Schneider is
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almost doing the impossible. Guys in the NFL, this doesn't
happen where a general manager sticks around this long and
has the dip that Schneider had, which, by the way,
wasn't that big of a dip comparatively speaking.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
But part of it was his own doing because trading
away his first round picks for guys like Jimmy Graham,
and he was a victim of his own harve standards
that he set for himself, right, there's no question about that.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Like going nine and eight, nine and seven wasn't good enough.
But I don't think we spend enough time on this
radio show kissing that guy's butt. He freaking deserves it.
So we are damn lucky to have him in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
This is two general managers in the last six months
that were like kissing their butt. Right, we did it
with Jerry all fall off, so we're doing it with
John Snyder. Now we're in such a good mood right now.
Let me just let me just fast forward, let's say
two three months, and let me paint this picture. Is
that the Seattle Mariners are going in is one of
the top two favorites to get back to the World
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Series from the American League. The Seattle Seahawks are coming
off of Super Bowl Championship. The announcement has come from
Adam Silver that the songs are returning, and then everything else.
We Seattle then becomes the face of the global sports world.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I mean, the Mariners have a lot of work to
do to catch up to John Schneider. Okay, yes, they
have a lot of work to do right now.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
My point was that we kissed Jerry to Poto's ass, rightfully,
so for the last three months of the season for sure,
since the trade.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Dead, and he deserves it.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
But again, I mean, you know, look, I mean the
whole point of and I don't want to get off
track here, but the whole point of that tear down
by the Mariners, I think we'll agree, wasn't to make
Game seven of the AOC. Yes, it was to get
to a World Series and win it, right, that was
the So I mean, look, we we could very well
be sitting here. Nobody would be surprised if in five
weeks from now we're sitting here talking about the Seahawks
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having a parade, and the parade might even be today,
on this Tuesday, by the way, we could be literally
sitting here in six weeks with a parade.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Is it going to be four degrees like it was
the last time?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I just.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
For people that aren't satisfied with this, I don't know
what more you could have expected.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Honestly, I just really don't. Well, there are a Super.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Bowl championship or bust. People out there that think you're
season is a failure.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
If you don't win a sum And I told you
guys yesterday, I'm going to be disappointed if the Seahawks
don't make the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
That's you know, and I understand that.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
But I'm just talking about like, if you're if you're
not happy with the move from Gino Smith to Sam Darnold,
what did you think you should have gotten Patrick Mahomes and.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
His prime Joe Montana, Dan Marino.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I mean honestly, like, if this isn't good enough to
jump from Gino to same, if that's not good enough
to please you, what would please you? In reality? What
would please you? We're gonna break what we got today.
Ray Roberts joins at four, John Wilner at five.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Some bad news for the Orgon Ducks, by the way,
which is good news for us.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Coming up on ninety three three KJRFM from the.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
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Speaker 1 (20:32):
All right, a lot to get to you on a
busy Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Ray Roberts, some former Seahawk offensive alignment will join us
coming up at four o'clock this afternoon for some Seahawk conversation.
John Wilner will join us as well. One of the
conversations we will have with John. You see the big
news involving the depth at running back for the Oregon
Ducks today, Jordan Davidson's got a broken clavicle.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
He scored a touchdown last week.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I had two against Sexast Tech yeah, ten carries ninety
yards against JMU, couple of touchdowns against Tessa Texas Tech.
And they still have Whitnington obviously, but Jordan Davidson likely
not going to play in the game on Friday. And
I want to get a take from you guys if
you feel the same way I do, because there's a
couple of people that have asked me, would you take
an Oregon National championship if it meant the Seahawks won
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the Super Bowl? And I said absolutely, yes, yes, one
hundred percent, I would do it.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Now part of it makes you want to vomit in
your own mouth as soon as it is to raise
the zero sign over your head. Yes for the National
champions Yes, that.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Would be over.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And there's a lot of Oregon Duck fans, by the way,
I just have you guys know that you not that
you don't know this, that are also Seahawk fans. By
the way, tons of Oregon fans are also Seahawk fans
and Mariner fans, and they used to be Sonic fans
back in the day. But the point is this, I'm
not I don't have and maybe it's because of what's
going on with the Seahawks right now, and it's kind
of like a you know, big shiny ball distracting me.
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I don't have as much angst over the Oregon situation
now as I have in years past. Wow, you guys
with me on.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
That, because what you just said, Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent,
My ninety nine percent of my sports attention right now
is on the Seattle Seawks. Maybe it's one hundred and
the reality is that the college football Playoff, I honestly,
I really just don't care. Like I get it at
Indiana Oregon should be a very good football game, and
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I ole miss Miami, I guess mildly interesting.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I just don't even care. Well, because here's the thing,
it's the Seahawks. I can sit here and tell you
that right now I don't have as much angst over
Oregon potentially winning as I normally have. And then they
could go out in three weeks, two weeks from now,
whenever it is, and win it, and I might want
to walk into traffic. I might feel totally different when
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that day actually shows up. Like going into the Rose
Bowl last year against Ohio State. You guys, remember, I
was paranoid as hell that Oregon was going to win
the National Championship and when they fell behind the gazillion
to nothing at a half time, it was the greatest
day of my life.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I was like, this is unbelieva, you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And I don't know. I'm just I'm not I'm not
in knots over the idea of Oregon winning a title.
As much as I have been in years past, I
definitely do not, under any circumstances want to see it.
But I don't have as much angst about it today
as I did this time a year ago.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I think I think I've just figured out why. Why
Because last year we truly believe that they had a
national championship team.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
They were number one.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yes, this year, I don't, I do not think that
they will beat Indiana. Maybe I do not think they
would win the national championship if they did beat Indiana.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I think they are.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I think they are very good defense and a limited offense.
I've thought that all year long. I saw them in
person in front of my dogs. They were a limited
offense in front of my dogs, and they're going to
be a limited offense in front of Indiana this way.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, and look, I mean they're still as close as
they've been since they they played who Auburn in the
national championship game. This is the closest they've been to
a national title. Have they been in the title game
since that game?
Speaker 5 (24:08):
When?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I don't They lost to cam Newton.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Oh Oregon's the Ohio State augustin the title game. Yeah,
for first year of the CFP, right, twenty fourteen? Is
that correct? Right?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Didn't they face Ohio? Yes, they lost in twenty fourteen? Yeah, correct.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
They lost the BCS championship to cam Newton in twenty ten.
They lost the CFP Championship to Oregon in twenty fourteen.
So here's the point. This is the closest they've been
since then in eleven years. And I, Dick, I agree
with you that there's been better Oregon teams than what
we're seeing now.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I think each of the last two teams were better
than this Oregon team.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Unfortunately, this Oregon team isn't going up against the competition
that those Oregon teams went up against.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Indiana might be that guy.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I like Indiana a lot.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
That might be.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I think Indiana's gonna beat him. I think Indiana the
line of scrimmage will prove to be more physical they'll
prove to be deeper, and I think that will beat
them on Friday Night in Atlanta. But it would not
stun the hell out of me if the Indiana magic
carpet ride came to an end and Oregon won the
game on Friday and played for the national title.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
My worry level going into last year's playoffs was an
eight and a half out of ten that this thing
is not gonna happen, That this thing is gonna happen
for Oregon.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
That's not now.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Four. If they beat Indiana, it goes to about a
seven or a seven and a half. But I still
don't think they beat Miami in Miami. If Miami takes
care of Old Miss, and like you said, it's a
home game for Miami in the National Championship.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I just think nothing would surprise me right now in
college football, right with the way this whole thing is gone,
the way the bracket's gone him in Ohio States, I
thought Georgia was gonna win the whole thing. I never
thought they'd lose to Ole Miss in the second round. Never,
and they're done.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Man.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I mean, you know, it's just crazy how the parody
in college football and the parody in the NFL. They're
both showing their heads at the same time in the
same season, so nothing would surprise me. But you know,
whatever the reason is, you've got your reason. You've got
your reason. I don't even know what my reason is.
I just know the way I feel right, and the
way I feel is that I just don't have as
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much angst over this. I'm not I'm not sitting around
freaking out Like when the Thunder we're about to win
the NBA Championship.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
That had me extremely bummed because we knew they were.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
The betremely okay, So this Oregon thing, if they do it,
they freaking do it at some point in my lifetime.
To those bastards are gonna win a title at some point.
It's gonna happen. All right, it'd be great if it didn't.
We can hold that over their head forever. But aren't
we convinced at some point us it's gonna happen. Much money,
They're going to win at some point. So if it
happens this year, it may as well happen in a year,
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Jackson where the Seahawks can distract us with a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
And that's the thing. If the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
You know, we're you know, lined up for the number
ten pick in the draft, right and our.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Season was on.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Can you imagine we'd be focusing really not yet on
the draft, we'd be focusing on our ri like Mariners
in a couple of months. And do we really have
to look at what's going on right now in the
final four.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Because that would be the attention.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
We haven't talked to any CFP really because of what
because of the sis? It's just like the Mariners, right,
you know, you don't talk a lot of football in
October because the Mariners are kicking ass and they're on
the doorstep of a stinking world.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Now, why you're not paying attention to Justson this particular
year is because the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Because because the nation's paying attention.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
The ratings are off the hook games and not only that,
the ratings where I talk to Wilner about this at five,
the ratings for the Bowl games. Everybody says ball games
don't matter anymore, ball games should go away. The ratings
for the Bowl games were unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yes, the Rose Bull ratings between Alabama and Indiana, I
think I saw a stat where they outdrew like Game
seven of the NBA Finals, like fivefold, twenty two million,
ridiculous how many people.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Tuned in to watch that game? So, hey, people are watching.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
But again, we're talking about us, right, We're talking about
us here in Seattle, and I think Jackson, you're probably
right that we are distracted by Thewks. If the Seahawks
were done, we'd be sitting here and we'd be talking
about Hey, listen, you're tuning into your home for Indiana football. Okay,
there you are, right, whatever, that's what we'd be doing.
We would have had the James Madison head coach on
(28:13):
the air. We would have talked about them and all that,
and so, thank god, thank god the Seahawks are giving
us this run, because you know what, it actually gets
kind of tiresome, does it not after a while every
single year, when your season's over and your NFL team
is done before the playoffs even get going, really in earnest,
the one thing that you turn to is sports hate
(28:33):
to keep you occupied. And right now we're not turning
to sports hate, and it kind.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Of feels good.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
We'll get a break a little fun with audio next.
Ray Roberts at four on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
It's now time for Sufday in Digg's Fun with Audio.
Jimmy g Pawt Star Jimmy mister daroppolo. Now let's have
some fun with audio.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
All right, we're back on a busy Tuesday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Ray Roberts joining us.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Coming up next segment right here, talks from Seahawks as
we wait and wait and wait and wait and wait.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
To see who the Seahawks play. And then we wait
and wait and wait and wait to.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
See them play. The wait is killing me already, man
for sure. All Right, here we go a little fun
with audio slash. Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick,
did you.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Dave?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
By the way, I don't forget today as a cracking
ticket Tuesday, I gotta remember to say that Jackson did
remind me?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I got distracted by the segment we're doing here.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
We haven't done it this hour, by the way, so
stay tuned between now and the next like five minutes.
Montana State beat Illinois State last night in a wild
FCS National championship, and the final seconds in overtime the
game saw a block, game winning field goal, a fourth down,
game time touchdown by a player named Taco, and a
game winning extra point. Here was the call on ESPN
by our old buddy, Dave Fleming and former Seahawks. Did
(29:52):
brock Osweiler played for the Seahawks or was that Paxton
Lynch actly that played for the Seahawks former ASU Sun devil?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
For sure, brock Osweiler his second career start at Illinois State.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Snap hold kick is booked, It's on the turf.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
HiT's stoked up. He returned to the forty five of
Illinois State. Exeth Johnson comes up of the ball, four.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Down and over time they bring pressure lamps and throws
heads un touchdown.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Talk to dun.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Miles Sandsteed snap hold kick Dad for a national championship.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's very cool. Fleming's great man. He's just a phenomenal broadcaster.
And it is unbelievable to me how there is such
an appetite for sports broadcasting right now. I mean, there
was nothing else on last night. Right I'm gonna got
great ratings. It's unbelievable. So good call by them to
put that game on Monday night. And I wonder if
now this is going to be kind of a staple
that Hey, between the NFL Playoffs and the College football
(31:07):
semi Finals, we all gather around the telly on a
Monday night and we watched the FCS National Championship game.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
I think the FCS National Championship will at one point
involve people like Oregon State and Washington State and Iowa State.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I'm just saying, you know, Cougar fans are also Seahawk
fans are having a good time. They're enjoying themselves, and
you just came and just pissed right on their parade.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Oh my god, unbelievable up and shows violence.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
I mean, wouldn't you want to win a national championship?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I mean, if you were a fan of those teams
would win a national championship, Well, you're nuts. Three teams
and about forty others now have zero z ro o
chance to win a national champ unless they join that.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, well I think they have a better shot. You
know what.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
That's a good conversation for John Wilner at five because
James Madison just made the College Football Playoff because they
have to.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
They got hammered.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I understand that, right, But who's got a better shot
of winning a national championship Washington in the Big ten
long term or the Cougars in the Pac twelve long term?
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Are you.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
That's an interesting question.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, I think John is going to surprise you with
his answer. By I think John's going to definitely surprise
you with his answer on who's got a better chance
of participating in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
He's going to say the Pac twelve.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
You just said, Wazoo, Yeah, both of them.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Both of them? He might say, both, Dick. I'm not
saying I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I'm just saying that, with the way this thing is
set up, are the Cougars more likely to finish near
the top of the Pac twelve and get themselves into
the playoff or are the Huskies more apt to finish
into the top three to four of the Big ten
and get themselves in the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Right?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
There is the interesting question.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Because it's very easy for a you know, a bad
Cougar team to win a bad conference.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Huskies are always going to have a hard.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Time getting into the playoff. Well, the Huskies.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Do we agree that it's going to sixteen teams very soon?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Okay, Well, the Huskies have been in the top sixteen
of the poll going into the playoffs five times in
the last ten years. We know that's not how it
exactly will play out, because if James Madison's they'll give
spots to teams win lower sixteen, it won't be.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
That just that it should be, but it won't be.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
It'll be twelve or thirteen of the top sixteen and
then three other teams from somewhere else exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Well, Okay, then conservatively it's three times out of ten years,
and so the Cougars would have to win. You're telling
me that the Cougars are going to win more than
thirty percent of all the Pac twelve championship.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I have no idea this with with these other teams
coming in, I don't have any clue what this thing
is going to look like. Is it possible they could
dominate that conference?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Because if possible, they have a hard time. Yeah. Again,
And that's why I'm not I'm willing to repeat after
me and say three words.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I'm willing to dance with you on the on the
berths into the tournament.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I'm not willing to dance on.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Any not just Washington State, any of the non power
for schools winning a national championship more so than a
Power two school.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, that's fair, but I still think again, if they're
having a better chance of getting in, they're giving themselves
more opportunities. And with the with the nil thing and
the portal. Look, I don't think Wazu was ever gonna
have any money to spend like Indiana is spending, for
God's sakes. But I think there's a big curiosity for
me on how they do in that conference for sure.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Hear that Marcus Spears was on NFL Live on ESPN
yesterday and did not give the Carolina Panthers any chance
of beating the Rams in the first run of the
playoffs this weekend.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
The Panther's like a piece of candy somebody throw out
the school yard and somebody find it on the concrete,
Like I got some candy.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Okay, they're not supposed to be out there, like.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
It's just it's just I'm still is the candy unwrapped
in this?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
What happened there? I think my computer stross now that
happened yesterday?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Did this yesterday?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I got the funny part though out that was good
So the point is is that the Panthers really don't.
You want to touch him, you'll get you'll get something
you'll pick up, you know, some kind of virus or whatever.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Carolina Panthers are the James Madison of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, they're pretty bad, man. I mean when they played
the Seahawks, I was like, yeah, I'm not impressed. They
look they looked like a team, did they not that
were only in the playoffs because somebody from that division
had to be a playoffs exactly right. And I would
be pretty surprised if the Rams lost to them. I
would not be surprised if it was a closer game
than what people are making it out to be. I
think the Rams are ten point favorites in this game.
I just think anytime you take a team like that
(35:41):
and you put them on grass right away from their
place in Carolina outdoors versus indoors. I have no idea
what the weather is going to be like this weekend
down there. If it's raining like crazy, but I think
the Rams will win. Yes, I would not. I would be,
just like you, very surprised if the Panthers won that.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
My knee jerk reaction is always to take the big
dog in a playoff game, particularly at home. But then
I just look at those two teams and I'm like, Okay,
how in the world are the Panthers going to be
within ten points at the end of the game against
the Rams.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Well, they could be down sixteen to seventeen points and
get a garbage touchdown. By the way, the Panthers play
on turf, So I just want to correct myself.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Dick?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
From the NFL Network yesterday, Former Seahawk fullback Michael Robinson
discussed how dangerous the Seahawks team is to win the
NFC and the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
They're extremely dangerous. And I won't say this too especially
about the Seahawks defense. We need to stop comparing them
to the Legion of Boom. This is their this is
their time. This is the current Seahawks teams. This the
current Seahawks defense's time. They aren't the Legion of Boom.
They're their own animal. Yeah, Okay, they gotta stop. You know,
they're not living in our shadow anymore. They're their own animal.
(36:52):
And I think when you have a championship defense like this,
when you can run the football, you can gain the
blade of grass whenever you want it, and you have
a coach who's like.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
A boy genius.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
When you talk about, you know, scheming things to attack
opposing offenses, they're gonna be very difficult to deal with.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah, I mean, I had a conversation with somebody who
said this is better than the LOB. I was like, guys,
come on, they led the NFL in scoring defense four
years in a row, which had never been done until then,
and now you're expecting it to happen again ten years later.
Someone's going to lead the NFL in scoring defense for
four years in a row. And I don't think the
(37:28):
NFL looks the difference with this defense versus that LOB.
We really probably should have this conversation when the season's over.
To be honest with you, that LOB defense played the
greatest scoring offense in the history of the NFL and
crapped all over them in the Super Bowl. That is
what makes that defense different than the Chicago Bears and
(37:49):
the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
But if this team wins three more games and the
defense is the reason for it, right, that talk will
be the number one NFL talking to for the next
six months.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
But who who in the AFC offensively is comparable to
the twenty thirteen Denver Broncos. Nobodyody, right, and they, I
mean they probably should have shut them out, to be
honest with you, in that game.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
And that's never been done in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
So you you show me a defense that leads the
NFL in scoring, and then you show me that same
defense that shut down the highest scoring offense in the
history of pro football, and then we can start having
that conversation.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
We're gonna break.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Ray Roberts joins next on ninety three to three KJARFM.
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