January 7, 2026 • 27 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler talks to Petros Papadakis about UW’s Demond Williams situation and the quarterback leaving UW for the transfer portal, and the state of college sports, then Dick Fain rejoins the show to continue discussing the situation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for our weekly conversation with college football analyst
Petros Papadekas.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Not that I'm a smart guy, I'm stupid.
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I don't know.
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Speaker 4 (00:33):
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around the edges. Jackson haven't done this for a couple
of weeks, man, I really feel like after the first
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like the NFL preseason. Don't blame me for anything this
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(00:54):
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zero zero. How are you, man? I'm doing okay better
than you are.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Eh, I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh no, I know that you're melting down. I know
you can't just get it all out on Twitter and
one night. This is gonna be a real s storm
for quite some time, and you're right in the middle
of it holding a pitchfork, trying to spear the feces
in the air and talk and reason and wine and
(02:05):
do all the different go through all the different levels
of greed.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Oh you mean that stupid little prick demon Williams.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Oh, come on, is that what you're talking about?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
That little say that on the air, like you, I
can't get away with saying anything on your show, And
you could just say.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
That that stupid little snake who stabbed Jedfish right in
the back after Jedfish went out of his way to
proclaim this guy to be the face of the football team.
When he was backing up, will Rogers said he's going
to be in New York City at the Heisman Trophy ceremony.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
And then Demon.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Williams just pow right in the friggin neck after signing
a deal on.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Friday, decides to go into the portal.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That guy, let me tell you something about him. He
is a snake. Second you turn around, he sticks it.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
He hundred. Well what do you make? What do you
make of the story?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
It's a modern day tale of what we deal with now.
It's something that you would never even fathom. Back in
my day playing football, the way you treated your teammates
and the way you related to the team you chose
was a lot less transactional, I guess, obviously, and a
(03:20):
couple million dollars is a couple million dollars. But I mean,
I just remember I transferred when I was and I'm
an idiot and I'm a total circus of a purpose exactly.
And when I was young, I was even a dumber idiot,
just a complete mess of a just parking in the handicap,
just leaving my door open, just sprinting, you know, just
(03:42):
I had no wow, just had no gauge of anything. Oh,
total idiot. I would drive over a bush and parking
Mike Garrett's parking spot. I drove around And I don't
even relate with this anymore or talk about it, but
(04:02):
I used to drive around in a Ford Explorer wearing
a helmet and.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Goggles like like like a British guide back in the day.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, yeah, like the red baron. Wow. Yeah. So you know,
I was a complete idiot. But I transferred when I
left cal and it was a terrible thing to do.
It was seen as a real betrayal. And I remember,
(04:35):
and still to this day feel badly because I signed
a contract there and wasn't able to fulfill it. I
work for a few different companies and have for twenty
plus years. I've signed a lot of contracts. Only once
did I not fulfill one. I left a radio show
before the contract was over because they were going away
(04:57):
in Los Angeles, and I still kind of feel bad
about that. I mean, it meant something to me, and
I still think about it a decades later. Obviously, the
timing was really bad, and I'm sure you guys have
discussed that at length and for more than one reason.
(05:18):
And it leaves Washington in a terrible spot because they
felt like they had this wrapped up and we're doing
other things and Jedfish needs a quarterback. Everybody needs a quarterback,
but Jedfish really needs a cornerback for that offense. And
they figured they had the whole thing wrapped up and
they were getting the Heisman campaign. Jeff Bechthold was pulling
(05:41):
the ripcord, getting that Heisman campaign rolling and unfurl that
from the parachute bag. And next thing you know, Lane Kiffin,
that snake, that tan slippery snake steal steals a quarterback
from Jedfish. Jedfish is the salt of the earth. He
(06:04):
might as well be Jed Clamping. Oh my god, that
is he is a He is an honest man.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Lane Kiffin has made that dude look like a freaking
choir boy.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Are you kidding me? He's done the impossible.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yes, I don't know who I choose to trust. I
guess it would be fish just because or I just say, wow,
you know, jump off the cliff. But it is. It
is a very it's a salacious story, and it would
be a great story but for the fact that it
cripples Washington football. Yeah, and now they're gonna have to
(06:40):
everybody's get all signed up and they're gonna have to
pivot or god forbid, develop one of your own people,
which is just something to do.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But that's the problem, is that you develop somebody for
a year or two and then you lose him in
the portal because somebody else pays more money. That's why
I said last night, when you're making fun of me,
mocking me, I know that you know.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
For what do you mean, mocky? What did I do?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I was being vulnerable on social media, opening up myself,
opening up my heart, sharing my emotions, and then people
like you just come and pissed down my throat.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Man, it hands be nuts, Yes, okaynut.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I didn't that year an eight count your esophagin So I.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Sor if I'm gonna donate money, I'm not giving money
for high school punks. Why would I let a guy
come here and develop into a player and then have
somebody else take off and bear the fruit of my
labor as an investor, I'll hit the portal and hire
a mercenary like Corey Dillon was here for three months.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
By the way, I never went to class. That was
a long ass time. That's right, I'll go get a
guy like that.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
But that used to be a story, yes, like that
was a tale that we told drinking forties of malt
liquor late at night.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Wearing helmets and goggles in our car, running over bushes.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Like y'all know, Corey Dillon just showed up and Washington
never went to class, played in ten games and rolled out.
You know. That was that was like that was like
a tail as all. That was like that. That might
as well have been sleepy hollow when I was playing
college football. That was like a great tale of fevery.
How Corey Dillon never even had to go to class
(08:10):
and wean you know, now that's every single guy you
know that Malachi Nelson guys, yeah, that's four schools now,
you know. And and people ask me, they say, well,
you scored this many touchdowns, this and that, how much
would you have gotten paid? And it's not like I
would have gotten paid something, right, Like, I'd have been
(08:31):
making money, And it's hard to imagine make playing college
football and making adult money like real adult money, and
in many cases way beyond most cases, beyond what most
adults would dream.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
But don't you say you know what.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Kids are like and college kids are like, and how
vulnerable they are and how susceptible they are to people
taking advantage of them, all the promises they've made while
drinking forties to their high school friends and Fansmily, it's
just a tough I mean, not that somebody shouldn't be paid.
There's a lot of money being made, and these guys
should get the money that they are generating. But man,
(09:09):
we are spinning out of control.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Don't you think this is though?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
This case here breaking point, maybe maybe point, the biggest
case of abuse of the system we've seen so far.
I don't think that, uh, this would be the case.
I think you're could be right, But I don't think
if there is change, I don't think that change would
have happened without your Twitter.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Rant last night. Yeah no, I think that.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Really pushed the boulder. Rolling down my social media can
really opened up your soul. The impact It was kind
of like when you know, in in Footloose, when Kevin
Bacon talks in front of the city council, he quotes
the Bible and really stands up for the young people
(09:57):
in the town. I feel like you did that last year.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
But guess what Kevin Bacon convinced John Lithgow, Remember how
tight he was as a preacher.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Oh, to.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Open up his mind a little bit and allow that
dance to happen.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
McCormick, you wrapped those skinny legs around everyone.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Is that Laurie's singer?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, that's what the remember she got like a full
on fistfight with her ex boyfriend over Rand Man the
eighties man Better Time.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Well, I was running scared the other day. Billy Tristle
and Gregory Hines.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, you know, And it's like, we don't have black
white cop shows. You know, what are we? The closest
thing to a black white combo we have in Chicago
now is Colin Cowhard and Caleb Williams a couple of.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Isn't there a great Micah McDonald's song that came out
of Sweet Freedom, Sweet Freedom, Sweet Sweet.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And what are those two guys? What are those two? Oh?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Man?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
What did those two guys end up doing at the
end of that movie?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
You remember they ended up staying well, I don't want
to spoiler alert nineteen eighty six. Yeah, forty years ago.
It is a great movie. We don't make movies like
this anymore. Random punch is being thrown, shots fired.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Ended up going to look at boobs in Key West.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Man. Oh no, no, they came back.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Oh that's right, they came back. They came back.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
To bus crime. God. Well, every bad guy at every
movie in the eighties had an UZI.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So what is what is you love?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I missed the UZI?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
What is you dub do?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Now?
Speaker 6 (11:52):
Man?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
What are we gonna do? Now? Hey? I'm not the corner. Hey,
why don't you ask the guy whose mentor is Fief Barrier?
But it's ask that guy, the guy that makes four
million a year. He'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Right, he's making seven and a half.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Actually, oh my god, heaven, he can't call Fafita. Why
I guess he can. Why if you want that gnome
running around in.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Purple, well, we already had a dwarf in demand. May
as well go for a gnome. And Noah, demon's taller
than him. I mean does anybody really care who's under
contract and who's signed an NIL agreement? I mean, that's
the that's the internal moral struggle that we're having.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
There'll be litigation here. But if if Washington really tries
to cause chaos and string it out, ultimately, people are
going to start saying, why don't you let the kid play? Yeah?
You know, instead they're going to say it in a
Cajun accent, though.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Right, Well, what Orgeron have to say about this?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
We play? We pay everybody for you.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I don't know, man, I'm very petty about it. I
hope they make him rot, That's what I hope.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Well, yeah, the emotions are high right now, and it
certainly was a crappy thing to do. And you can
blame Lane Kiffin, but uh, I mean I heard a coach.
This was a when there was two portals, But I
had a coach lamenting to me, like screaming on a
conference call that they gave a kicker fifty thousand dollars
(13:28):
in a truck and the last day of the portal
and the second portal he left for Oklahoma. Wow, and uh,
you know, and then they said he take the truck. Yeah,
everything I said, Well, can you get your I said,
can you get your stuff back? He said, no, it's
an il. Once you give it, it's gone, right, And
uh so yeah, this could like you know, we were
(13:51):
having some jokes. But and I'm not a lawyer, but
I think that enough lawyers will get involved in this
that there'll be some kind of tipping point where they'll say,
you know, these there can't be one year deals. These
have to be two year deals unless you have one
year lived.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Just how about just respect the freaking contracts, guys?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Whether the SE's like, for example, would any of this
ever been allowed if Demon Williams wants to transfer within
the Big Ten to another university?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Likely not, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I don't know. I mean, the NCAA is toothless, so
it's not like they're going to get involved. But you
could be right. You know, maybe the powers that be
in the Big Ten, depending on who's got the higher lobby, yes,
would get involved. But I mean nobody wants to stand
in it. When it comes to kids moving around, it
feels like they're very It used to be a locked door,
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like we were referring to when the interview started, and
now when it comes to the transfer portal. It's almost
like people are afraid to put any kind of boundaries
on them. We just got one of those transfer portal
windows closed. That second portal was absolutely ridiculous and that
has just been closed. But we still have chaos even
(15:09):
with the one portal, and there's you know, twice as
many guys in the portal because there's two portals, and
everybody's freaking out about that. And yeah, we need some uniformity.
But like we always say, if you love chaos, you
love college football and vice versa. Yeah, and it's hard
to imagine the TV companies ever getting together and figuring
(15:30):
something out because they're the ones that are really in charge.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Now, Hey, people are pissed off, but they're engaged, right,
I mean, yeah, that's kind.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Of the problem. You know. The top we always make
the reference like the top of the iceberg is we've
never made more money, Things are never better. The bottom
of the iceberg is all the problems that are being
cost you know, in the in the interim and why
it's so hard to build a team.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
I mean, this is this is bumped the Seahawks from
our show. They got a you know, huge game next weekend.
Number one, see the buy the whole. And we're talking
about a freaking nineteen year old dwarf quarterback that stabbed
Jetfish right in the freaking neck all day long. So
it's amazing how college football can just take over the
world when they want to. All right, really good stuff.
I really enjoyed our conversation. I've missed you.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
How was your holiday, by the way.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
It was okay? Free Kennedy Polamalu.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Is he still here?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
By the way?
Speaker 7 (16:20):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
He left? What's he doing?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
We put him on leave?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Is he okay?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
I believe?
Speaker 7 (16:26):
So?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
You got any pictures of you wearing goggles on the
helmet during a car ride in California?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I still have the helmet.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Oh, I'd love to see you put that thing on.
Put that helmet, I'll put it on. Has a skull
and cross place it does not? All right, we gotta go.
Good stuff. We'll talking a week, buddy, whatever, see you,
man pet trous Papaacus with us. We're gonna break. You'll
come back and get the latest on that snake demon Williams.
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Speaker 2 (17:12):
They was just thinking about it, Dick Fane, what you think?
How absolutely?
Speaker 4 (17:15):
In regards to the Demand Williams story, the NCAA has
proved to be useless, totally freaking like no instance.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
It's funny.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I hadn't even thought of them until like five seconds ago.
I mean, this is like, what the hell do they
even do anymore? If the NC double A is not
going to enforce a rule here or any kind of
authority exercise their muscles here, the hell good are they?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
They don't have that?
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I mean, this is another example of the NC DOUBLEA.
Is it not just being totally unbelievably uselessness?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
When's the point of that?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
I mean, I don't even what is the association anymore
with the NC DOUBLEA and college.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Football rightway right, because the CFP is a third party
thing now right like the NCAA endorse is it obviously,
but they don't run the CFP.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I honestly don't even know what the hell the NCUAA does.
I just don't.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I'm not trying to be a sy They run the
other They run the other sports, right, March madness all that. Yes,
I don't know what they do for football anymore. Yes,
zero they do.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
They do zero because the SEC does what they want,
the Big Ten does what they want. The players do
what they want, the coaches do what they want, the
TV networks do what they want. The CFP does what
they want to do. The NCUBA is totally unbelievably freaking
useless when it comes to college football. I think we've
thought that for a long time, but man, I think
yesterday is another example of how they just have become
(18:37):
totally obsolete.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
The interesting part about this entire situation is I think
what this will do setting a precedent for the future,
because I know you did mention kind of with what
Wisconsin guy, right, Xavier Lucas. So this is a revenue
sharing deal that was made between Demand and the university.
Correct that he then went four days later back on
that deal and went to and apparently has clearly agreed
(19:02):
to something with what sounds like LSU.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Right.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
So now we have the opportunity now to see history
play out in not only setting an example of this kid, sorry,
demand you deserve this, but set an example of this
is what happens when you renig on a contract, but
also now set the precedent for when these contracts, revenue
sharing contracts get written up in the future. Here is
what we do with kids who decide to go one
(19:26):
way or another on it.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Well, I'm glad you brought up the Lucas thing because
that was prior to revenue sharing, right exactly, So this
is really the first one that's ever happened. I'm glad
you brought up Lucas originally something because yes, it was
somebody that that just didn't even worry about going to
the transfer portal.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
So it absolutely has a relation to this. But this
is unique in a ship.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
This is Revsher era guy leaving a school after he
signed a contrey.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
He's never been happened, never happened. There's just that there
are absolutely.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
No reasons for anybody to observe or and force anything.
It is now and when this whole thing began a
year ago, two years ago, whatever it was, we all
heard the term Wow, well West inmates running the asylum.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Blah blah blah. I think it's worse now than ever honestly, Oh,
I agree.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Because didn't we think that, well, this will eventually change,
things will improve. It is now worse now than ever
when a guy can sign a contract and a team
can contact the guy after he has signed a contract
and just take him with no regard for consequences whatsoever.
What the hell is the point of the transfer portal, guys,
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if you don't need to be in the portal to
go play for someone. I mean, honestly, this is Xavier Lucas.
Guy left Wisconsin, went to Miami, never entered the portal,
Miami took him. He's now a backup cornerback. You might
see him play by the way this weekend or on
is it Thursday or Friday? My Thursday tomorrow? You might
see him play tomorrow. He never went in the portal.
So what the f is the point of the portals?
(20:59):
You don't need to be in it. And let's just
take this a crazy step further.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
But I guess in this world there's nothing that's crazy, right, Yes,
what's to stop a quarterback from a football team that
starts one in three to say I'm leaving school and
I'm going.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
To this school over here. Nothing?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
They're a good team and they need a quarterback, and
two weeks later he's playing for that team.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Nothing, there's nothing.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
I mean again, like I said to you yesterday, whatever
you can come up with in your brain, I could
see it happening.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I don't have.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Any reason to discount anything, Dick and any opinions whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I threw it out there a couple of years ago
that I think that we'll see one day that cut
kids on college football teams won't even be enrolled in school.
And people are like, that's never going to happen. Okay,
well whatever you think. We love trades in college football.
I'd like to see it happen. Just make it the NFL.
Make it the NFL. You want to get the NFL
involved in, Get the NFL involved. Move the transfer portal
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down to March aka free agency, Move signing Day to
April aka the draft. Let's be done with this. Everybody respects,
everybody's rules. There's a czar, there's oversights, there's rules that
are in place, there's consequences for violating rules. There's a union,
there's collective bargaining. Players are paid, coaches are paid.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
The whole thing.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
It's NFL light, it's the minor leagues of the National
Football League whatever you want to call it, man, hell
call it NMFL, National Minor League Football, whatever the hell
you want to call it. That's fine, because this is
just it's killing me. That's something that I love and
care about so much.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Is pissing me off.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
And when something starts to piss you off, you're apt
to not want to be a part of it.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
It's right, that's right, And I see that, especially if
your team's losing, by the way, right, See if you're winning, okay, whatever,
but if you're losing.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Them, I see us going down that road.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
But it gets back to something I said yesterday that
evidently pissed a bunch of Cougar fans off.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And I wasn't a.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Shock, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
I was really making a statement based upon any school
that is not in the Big Ten or the SEC,
or as a major player in the ACC on Miami,
for example, I don't think you can have the scenario
that you're talking about with eighty ninety football teams.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I just don't I agree with that.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Yes, I think you need a finite number of mega
conference schools to do what you're talking about. And that's
why I think we eventually get there. Yeah, and then
the other teams will be playing for US separate championship.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Like I referred to yester eighty ninety teams.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Well, why each league has thirty and you go Pro
rail with three divisions?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
He's talking, but ten the SEC get together, maybe add
a couple more teams, maybe you have forty programs, whatever
it is. But yes, I mean that's that's probably going
to happen at some point because it'll be splintering off
of the major powers that we'll say we're just gonna
do things our way. But the problem is I could
see those teams even saying, hey, we're gonna form this
league and still have no rules and do whatever the
(23:51):
hell we want. And because the players, the players have
got to have a union, they've got to collectively bargain.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
They have to have a seat at the table.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
NFL players, baseball players, hockey players, NBA, they all have.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
A seat at the table. So if you go do
that and you don't include the players when you form
this league and you create rules and don't let the
players be a part of it and have any input,
they'll do whatever the hell they'll want to do, and
you'll still get sued. So this is just going down
a road I think, guys in the end of having
a minor league for football with professionals that run things
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exactly the way the NFL does. I mean, as far
as demand, I mean, screw him, honestly, like, I don't
want that guy anywhere near you, dub He's persona on Grada,
He's public enemy number one. He's on the list of
the most hated Huskies of all time. In my opinion,
we did a bracket last spring, by the way, of
the most hated athletes, and who the hell would have
been saying those weres last Thursday.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
So that reminds me I was gonna go, look right now,
is it, Jamal? I mean, he's on the list. He's
on the list. Here we go pulling it up right now.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
He's on the list of the most despised athletes in
Seattle's history for what he just did. And you know what,
by the way, I think, personally, guy, sorry, he can
become more despised if he has success somewhere else. If
he has success somewhere else and wins the Heisman Trophy
and takes a team to a national championship, and we're
left holding a bag of you know what. In Seattle,
the despise meter is going to only go up.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Let me just give you the semifinals for the final,
it was the number one seed Niners that took down
number five seed Gonzaga, and it was the number six
seed Blue Jays that fell.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You're talking hated teams. What about individuals? If we did
we do it? Do we not do individuals?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
I thought we did one with like Jesse Adams.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Whatever can you say that Demon Williams is more hated?
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I had a guy, I had a guy tweet me
that said, you know, he said, like demon will be
the downfall of you dub like you know you dubbed
did to the Pac twelve. Really so a guy that
crapped himself against the biggest games of the year will
be the reason why you Dubb never wins again.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Oh, I think the Huskies are going to come up
with a fine replay. By the way, I am all
for being a total hypocrite with de Mont Williams now
and just crapping all over the guy. I'm just gonna
admit that right like I wanted him back, you wanted
him back. All of us were excited to have him
back next year to see what he can do in
year three. I am now going into absolute hypocrite mode
(26:17):
and I will rip his ass at every chance I
get and remind you how much I thought he sucked.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
I will change my tune like that. Well, there's slip
of a coin, I mean, which it makes me feel good.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
We saw the magic of the Mon Williams, and we
also saw the complete and ability of de Mon Williams
to prevent or to make anything happen against the Ohio States,
Michigan's and Oregons of the world.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Well, let's see. I mean part of that's on Jetfish too.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
He's the head coach, right, I mean, the quarterback didn't
do it, The head coach hasn't done it, the coordinator
hasn't done it.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
So now who's going to have to go out and
get a guy that can do it?
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I mean, is bot Perbula give him a better chance
of winning those games?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I don't think does Sam Levit giving him give Hi
a better chance to win those games?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Does Ka Nelson, Noah Fafita? I don't know, man.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I think there's a lot of question marks about this
football team for next year. I will just say this
that I hope this galvanizes Washington fans after a couple
of days of the emotions calming down. But this demon
Williams thing, I'm really hopeful, like you said Dick at
the top of the show, is the straw that breaks
the camel's back and people just say enough. Petros doesn't
(27:23):
know if it will be. I'm hoping you're right, We're
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Speaker 2 (01:42):
Eh, I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh no, I know that you're melting down. I know
you can't just get it all out on Twitter and
one night. This is gonna be a real s storm
for quite some time, and you're right in the middle
of it holding a pitchfork, trying to spear the feces
in the air and talk and reason and wine and
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do all the different go through all the different levels
of greed.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Oh you mean that stupid little prick demon Williams.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Oh, come on, is that what you're talking about?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
That little say that on the air, like you, I
can't get away with saying anything on your show, And
you could just say.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
That that stupid little snake who stabbed Jedfish right in
the back after Jedfish went out of his way to
proclaim this guy to be the face of the football team.
When he was backing up, will Rogers said he's going
to be in New York City at the Heisman Trophy ceremony.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
And then Demon.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Williams just pow right in the friggin neck after signing
a deal on.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Friday, decides to go into the portal.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That guy, let me tell you something about him. He
is a snake. Second you turn around, he sticks it.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
He hundred. Well what do you make? What do you
make of the story?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
It's a modern day tale of what we deal with now.
It's something that you would never even fathom. Back in
my day playing football, the way you treated your teammates
and the way you related to the team you chose
was a lot less transactional, I guess, obviously, and a
(03:20):
couple million dollars is a couple million dollars. But I mean,
I just remember I transferred when I was and I'm
an idiot and I'm a total circus of a purpose exactly.
And when I was young, I was even a dumber idiot,
just a complete mess of a just parking in the handicap,
just leaving my door open, just sprinting, you know, just
(03:42):
I had no wow, just had no gauge of anything. Oh,
total idiot. I would drive over a bush and parking
Mike Garrett's parking spot. I drove around And I don't
even relate with this anymore or talk about it, but
(04:02):
I used to drive around in a Ford Explorer wearing
a helmet and.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Goggles like like like a British guide back in the day.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, yeah, like the red baron. Wow. Yeah. So you know,
I was a complete idiot. But I transferred when I
left cal and it was a terrible thing to do.
It was seen as a real betrayal. And I remember,
(04:35):
and still to this day feel badly because I signed
a contract there and wasn't able to fulfill it. I
work for a few different companies and have for twenty
plus years. I've signed a lot of contracts. Only once
did I not fulfill one. I left a radio show
before the contract was over because they were going away
(04:57):
in Los Angeles, and I still kind of feel bad
about that. I mean, it meant something to me, and
I still think about it a decades later. Obviously, the
timing was really bad, and I'm sure you guys have
discussed that at length and for more than one reason.
(05:18):
And it leaves Washington in a terrible spot because they
felt like they had this wrapped up and we're doing
other things and Jedfish needs a quarterback. Everybody needs a quarterback,
but Jedfish really needs a cornerback for that offense. And
they figured they had the whole thing wrapped up and
they were getting the Heisman campaign. Jeff Bechthold was pulling
(05:41):
the ripcord, getting that Heisman campaign rolling and unfurl that
from the parachute bag. And next thing you know, Lane Kiffin,
that snake, that tan slippery snake steal steals a quarterback
from Jedfish. Jedfish is the salt of the earth. He
(06:04):
might as well be Jed Clamping. Oh my god, that
is he is a He is an honest man.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Lane Kiffin has made that dude look like a freaking
choir boy.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Are you kidding me? He's done the impossible.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yes, I don't know who I choose to trust. I
guess it would be fish just because or I just say, wow,
you know, jump off the cliff. But it is. It
is a very it's a salacious story, and it would
be a great story but for the fact that it
cripples Washington football. Yeah, and now they're gonna have to
(06:40):
everybody's get all signed up and they're gonna have to
pivot or god forbid, develop one of your own people,
which is just something to do.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But that's the problem, is that you develop somebody for
a year or two and then you lose him in
the portal because somebody else pays more money. That's why
I said last night, when you're making fun of me,
mocking me, I know that you know.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
For what do you mean, mocky? What did I do?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I was being vulnerable on social media, opening up myself,
opening up my heart, sharing my emotions, and then people
like you just come and pissed down my throat.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Man, it hands be nuts, Yes, okaynut.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I didn't that year an eight count your esophagin So I.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Sor if I'm gonna donate money, I'm not giving money
for high school punks. Why would I let a guy
come here and develop into a player and then have
somebody else take off and bear the fruit of my
labor as an investor, I'll hit the portal and hire
a mercenary like Corey Dillon was here for three months.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
By the way, I never went to class. That was
a long ass time. That's right, I'll go get a
guy like that.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
But that used to be a story, yes, like that
was a tale that we told drinking forties of malt
liquor late at night.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Wearing helmets and goggles in our car, running over bushes.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Like y'all know, Corey Dillon just showed up and Washington
never went to class, played in ten games and rolled out.
You know. That was that was like that was like
a tail as all. That was like that. That might
as well have been sleepy hollow when I was playing
college football. That was like a great tale of fevery.
How Corey Dillon never even had to go to class
(08:10):
and wean you know, now that's every single guy you
know that Malachi Nelson guys, yeah, that's four schools now,
you know. And and people ask me, they say, well,
you scored this many touchdowns, this and that, how much
would you have gotten paid? And it's not like I
would have gotten paid something, right, Like, I'd have been
(08:31):
making money, And it's hard to imagine make playing college
football and making adult money like real adult money, and
in many cases way beyond most cases, beyond what most
adults would dream.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
But don't you say you know what.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Kids are like and college kids are like, and how
vulnerable they are and how susceptible they are to people
taking advantage of them, all the promises they've made while
drinking forties to their high school friends and Fansmily, it's
just a tough I mean, not that somebody shouldn't be paid.
There's a lot of money being made, and these guys
should get the money that they are generating. But man,
(09:09):
we are spinning out of control.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Don't you think this is though?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
This case here breaking point, maybe maybe point, the biggest
case of abuse of the system we've seen so far.
I don't think that, uh, this would be the case.
I think you're could be right, But I don't think
if there is change, I don't think that change would
have happened without your Twitter.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Rant last night. Yeah no, I think that.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Really pushed the boulder. Rolling down my social media can
really opened up your soul. The impact It was kind
of like when you know, in in Footloose, when Kevin
Bacon talks in front of the city council, he quotes
the Bible and really stands up for the young people
(09:57):
in the town. I feel like you did that last year.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
But guess what Kevin Bacon convinced John Lithgow, Remember how
tight he was as a preacher.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Oh, to.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Open up his mind a little bit and allow that
dance to happen.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
McCormick, you wrapped those skinny legs around everyone.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Is that Laurie's singer?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, that's what the remember she got like a full
on fistfight with her ex boyfriend over Rand Man the
eighties man Better Time.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Well, I was running scared the other day. Billy Tristle
and Gregory Hines.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, you know, And it's like, we don't have black
white cop shows. You know, what are we? The closest
thing to a black white combo we have in Chicago
now is Colin Cowhard and Caleb Williams a couple of.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Isn't there a great Micah McDonald's song that came out
of Sweet Freedom, Sweet Freedom, Sweet Sweet.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And what are those two guys? What are those two? Oh?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Man?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
What did those two guys end up doing at the
end of that movie?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
You remember they ended up staying well, I don't want
to spoiler alert nineteen eighty six. Yeah, forty years ago.
It is a great movie. We don't make movies like
this anymore. Random punch is being thrown, shots fired.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Ended up going to look at boobs in Key West.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Man. Oh no, no, they came back.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Oh that's right, they came back. They came back.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
To bus crime. God. Well, every bad guy at every
movie in the eighties had an UZI.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So what is what is you love?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I missed the UZI?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
What is you dub do?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Now?
Speaker 6 (11:52):
Man?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
What are we gonna do? Now? Hey? I'm not the corner. Hey,
why don't you ask the guy whose mentor is Fief Barrier?
But it's ask that guy, the guy that makes four
million a year. He'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Right, he's making seven and a half.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Actually, oh my god, heaven, he can't call Fafita. Why
I guess he can. Why if you want that gnome
running around in.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Purple, well, we already had a dwarf in demand. May
as well go for a gnome. And Noah, demon's taller
than him. I mean does anybody really care who's under
contract and who's signed an NIL agreement? I mean, that's
the that's the internal moral struggle that we're having.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
There'll be litigation here. But if if Washington really tries
to cause chaos and string it out, ultimately, people are
going to start saying, why don't you let the kid play? Yeah?
You know, instead they're going to say it in a
Cajun accent, though.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Right, Well, what Orgeron have to say about this?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
We play? We pay everybody for you.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I don't know, man, I'm very petty about it. I
hope they make him rot, That's what I hope.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Well, yeah, the emotions are high right now, and it
certainly was a crappy thing to do. And you can
blame Lane Kiffin, but uh, I mean I heard a coach.
This was a when there was two portals, But I
had a coach lamenting to me, like screaming on a
conference call that they gave a kicker fifty thousand dollars
(13:28):
in a truck and the last day of the portal
and the second portal he left for Oklahoma. Wow, and uh,
you know, and then they said he take the truck. Yeah,
everything I said, Well, can you get your I said,
can you get your stuff back? He said, no, it's
an il. Once you give it, it's gone, right, And
uh so yeah, this could like you know, we were
(13:51):
having some jokes. But and I'm not a lawyer, but
I think that enough lawyers will get involved in this
that there'll be some kind of tipping point where they'll say,
you know, these there can't be one year deals. These
have to be two year deals unless you have one
year lived.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Just how about just respect the freaking contracts, guys?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Whether the SE's like, for example, would any of this
ever been allowed if Demon Williams wants to transfer within
the Big Ten to another university?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Likely not, don't you think.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I don't know. I mean, the NCAA is toothless, so
it's not like they're going to get involved. But you
could be right. You know, maybe the powers that be
in the Big Ten, depending on who's got the higher lobby, yes,
would get involved. But I mean nobody wants to stand
in it. When it comes to kids moving around, it
feels like they're very It used to be a locked door,
(14:49):
like we were referring to when the interview started, and
now when it comes to the transfer portal. It's almost
like people are afraid to put any kind of boundaries
on them. We just got one of those transfer portal
windows closed. That second portal was absolutely ridiculous and that
has just been closed. But we still have chaos even
(15:09):
with the one portal, and there's you know, twice as
many guys in the portal because there's two portals, and
everybody's freaking out about that. And yeah, we need some uniformity.
But like we always say, if you love chaos, you
love college football and vice versa. Yeah, and it's hard
to imagine the TV companies ever getting together and figuring
(15:30):
something out because they're the ones that are really in charge.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Now, Hey, people are pissed off, but they're engaged, right,
I mean, yeah, that's kind.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Of the problem. You know. The top we always make
the reference like the top of the iceberg is we've
never made more money, Things are never better. The bottom
of the iceberg is all the problems that are being
cost you know, in the in the interim and why
it's so hard to build a team.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
I mean, this is this is bumped the Seahawks from
our show. They got a you know, huge game next weekend.
Number one, see the buy the whole. And we're talking
about a freaking nineteen year old dwarf quarterback that stabbed
Jetfish right in the freaking neck all day long. So
it's amazing how college football can just take over the
world when they want to. All right, really good stuff.
I really enjoyed our conversation. I've missed you.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
How was your holiday, by the way.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
It was okay? Free Kennedy Polamalu.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Is he still here?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
By the way?
Speaker 7 (16:20):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
He left? What's he doing?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
We put him on leave?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Is he okay?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
I believe?
Speaker 7 (16:26):
So?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
You got any pictures of you wearing goggles on the
helmet during a car ride in California?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I still have the helmet.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Oh, I'd love to see you put that thing on.
Put that helmet, I'll put it on. Has a skull
and cross place it does not? All right, we gotta go.
Good stuff. We'll talking a week, buddy, whatever, see you,
man pet trous Papaacus with us. We're gonna break. You'll
come back and get the latest on that snake demon Williams.
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Speaker 2 (17:12):
They was just thinking about it, Dick Fane, what you think?
How absolutely?
Speaker 4 (17:15):
In regards to the Demand Williams story, the NCAA has
proved to be useless, totally freaking like no instance.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
It's funny.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I hadn't even thought of them until like five seconds ago.
I mean, this is like, what the hell do they
even do anymore? If the NC double A is not
going to enforce a rule here or any kind of
authority exercise their muscles here, the hell good are they?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
They don't have that?
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I mean, this is another example of the NC DOUBLEA.
Is it not just being totally unbelievably uselessness?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
When's the point of that?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
I mean, I don't even what is the association anymore
with the NC DOUBLEA and college.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Football rightway right, because the CFP is a third party
thing now right like the NCAA endorse is it obviously,
but they don't run the CFP.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I honestly don't even know what the hell the NCUAA does.
I just don't.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I'm not trying to be a sy They run the
other They run the other sports, right, March madness all that. Yes,
I don't know what they do for football anymore. Yes,
zero they do.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
They do zero because the SEC does what they want,
the Big Ten does what they want. The players do
what they want, the coaches do what they want, the
TV networks do what they want. The CFP does what
they want to do. The NCUBA is totally unbelievably freaking
useless when it comes to college football. I think we've
thought that for a long time, but man, I think
yesterday is another example of how they just have become
(18:37):
totally obsolete.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
The interesting part about this entire situation is I think
what this will do setting a precedent for the future,
because I know you did mention kind of with what
Wisconsin guy, right, Xavier Lucas. So this is a revenue
sharing deal that was made between Demand and the university.
Correct that he then went four days later back on
that deal and went to and apparently has clearly agreed
(19:02):
to something with what sounds like LSU.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Right.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
So now we have the opportunity now to see history
play out in not only setting an example of this kid, sorry,
demand you deserve this, but set an example of this
is what happens when you renig on a contract, but
also now set the precedent for when these contracts, revenue
sharing contracts get written up in the future. Here is
what we do with kids who decide to go one
(19:26):
way or another on it.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Well, I'm glad you brought up the Lucas thing because
that was prior to revenue sharing, right exactly, So this
is really the first one that's ever happened. I'm glad
you brought up Lucas originally something because yes, it was
somebody that that just didn't even worry about going to
the transfer portal.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
So it absolutely has a relation to this. But this
is unique in a ship.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
This is Revsher era guy leaving a school after he
signed a contrey.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
He's never been happened, never happened. There's just that there
are absolutely.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
No reasons for anybody to observe or and force anything.
It is now and when this whole thing began a
year ago, two years ago, whatever it was, we all
heard the term Wow, well West inmates running the asylum.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Blah blah blah. I think it's worse now than ever honestly, Oh,
I agree.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Because didn't we think that, well, this will eventually change,
things will improve. It is now worse now than ever
when a guy can sign a contract and a team
can contact the guy after he has signed a contract
and just take him with no regard for consequences whatsoever.
What the hell is the point of the transfer portal, guys,
(20:37):
if you don't need to be in the portal to
go play for someone. I mean, honestly, this is Xavier Lucas.
Guy left Wisconsin, went to Miami, never entered the portal,
Miami took him. He's now a backup cornerback. You might
see him play by the way this weekend or on
is it Thursday or Friday? My Thursday tomorrow? You might
see him play tomorrow. He never went in the portal.
So what the f is the point of the portals?
(20:59):
You don't need to be in it. And let's just
take this a crazy step further.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
But I guess in this world there's nothing that's crazy, right, Yes,
what's to stop a quarterback from a football team that
starts one in three to say I'm leaving school and
I'm going.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
To this school over here. Nothing?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
They're a good team and they need a quarterback, and
two weeks later he's playing for that team.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Nothing, there's nothing.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
I mean again, like I said to you yesterday, whatever
you can come up with in your brain, I could
see it happening.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I don't have.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Any reason to discount anything, Dick and any opinions whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I threw it out there a couple of years ago
that I think that we'll see one day that cut
kids on college football teams won't even be enrolled in school.
And people are like, that's never going to happen. Okay,
well whatever you think. We love trades in college football.
I'd like to see it happen. Just make it the NFL.
Make it the NFL. You want to get the NFL
involved in, Get the NFL involved. Move the transfer portal
(21:52):
down to March aka free agency, Move signing Day to
April aka the draft. Let's be done with this. Everybody respects,
everybody's rules. There's a czar, there's oversights, there's rules that
are in place, there's consequences for violating rules. There's a union,
there's collective bargaining. Players are paid, coaches are paid.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
The whole thing.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
It's NFL light, it's the minor leagues of the National
Football League whatever you want to call it, man, hell
call it NMFL, National Minor League Football, whatever the hell
you want to call it. That's fine, because this is
just it's killing me. That's something that I love and
care about so much.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Is pissing me off.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
And when something starts to piss you off, you're apt
to not want to be a part of it.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
It's right, that's right, And I see that, especially if
your team's losing, by the way, right, See if you're winning, okay, whatever,
but if you're losing.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Them, I see us going down that road.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
But it gets back to something I said yesterday that
evidently pissed a bunch of Cougar fans off.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And I wasn't a.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Shock, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
I was really making a statement based upon any school
that is not in the Big Ten or the SEC,
or as a major player in the ACC on Miami,
for example, I don't think you can have the scenario
that you're talking about with eighty ninety football teams.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I just don't I agree with that.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Yes, I think you need a finite number of mega
conference schools to do what you're talking about. And that's
why I think we eventually get there. Yeah, and then
the other teams will be playing for US separate championship.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Like I referred to yester eighty ninety teams.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Well, why each league has thirty and you go Pro
rail with three divisions?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
He's talking, but ten the SEC get together, maybe add
a couple more teams, maybe you have forty programs, whatever
it is. But yes, I mean that's that's probably going
to happen at some point because it'll be splintering off
of the major powers that we'll say we're just gonna
do things our way. But the problem is I could
see those teams even saying, hey, we're gonna form this
league and still have no rules and do whatever the
(23:51):
hell we want. And because the players, the players have
got to have a union, they've got to collectively bargain.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
They have to have a seat at the table.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
NFL players, baseball players, hockey players, NBA, they all have.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
A seat at the table. So if you go do
that and you don't include the players when you form
this league and you create rules and don't let the
players be a part of it and have any input,
they'll do whatever the hell they'll want to do, and
you'll still get sued. So this is just going down
a road I think, guys in the end of having
a minor league for football with professionals that run things
(24:27):
exactly the way the NFL does. I mean, as far
as demand, I mean, screw him, honestly, like, I don't
want that guy anywhere near you, dub He's persona on Grada,
He's public enemy number one. He's on the list of
the most hated Huskies of all time. In my opinion,
we did a bracket last spring, by the way, of
the most hated athletes, and who the hell would have
been saying those weres last Thursday.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
So that reminds me I was gonna go, look right now,
is it, Jamal? I mean, he's on the list. He's
on the list. Here we go pulling it up right now.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
He's on the list of the most despised athletes in
Seattle's history for what he just did. And you know what,
by the way, I think, personally, guy, sorry, he can
become more despised if he has success somewhere else. If
he has success somewhere else and wins the Heisman Trophy
and takes a team to a national championship, and we're
left holding a bag of you know what. In Seattle,
the despise meter is going to only go up.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Let me just give you the semifinals for the final,
it was the number one seed Niners that took down
number five seed Gonzaga, and it was the number six
seed Blue Jays that fell.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You're talking hated teams. What about individuals? If we did
we do it? Do we not do individuals?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
I thought we did one with like Jesse Adams.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Whatever can you say that Demon Williams is more hated?
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I had a guy, I had a guy tweet me
that said, you know, he said, like demon will be
the downfall of you dub like you know you dubbed
did to the Pac twelve. Really so a guy that
crapped himself against the biggest games of the year will
be the reason why you Dubb never wins again.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Oh, I think the Huskies are going to come up
with a fine replay. By the way, I am all
for being a total hypocrite with de Mont Williams now
and just crapping all over the guy. I'm just gonna
admit that right like I wanted him back, you wanted
him back. All of us were excited to have him
back next year to see what he can do in
year three. I am now going into absolute hypocrite mode
(26:17):
and I will rip his ass at every chance I
get and remind you how much I thought he sucked.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
I will change my tune like that. Well, there's slip
of a coin, I mean, which it makes me feel good.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
We saw the magic of the Mon Williams, and we
also saw the complete and ability of de Mon Williams
to prevent or to make anything happen against the Ohio States,
Michigan's and Oregons of the world.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Well, let's see. I mean part of that's on Jetfish too.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
He's the head coach, right, I mean, the quarterback didn't
do it, The head coach hasn't done it, the coordinator
hasn't done it.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
So now who's going to have to go out and
get a guy that can do it?
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I mean, is bot Perbula give him a better chance
of winning those games?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I don't think does Sam Levit giving him give Hi
a better chance to win those games?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Does Ka Nelson, Noah Fafita? I don't know, man.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I think there's a lot of question marks about this
football team for next year. I will just say this
that I hope this galvanizes Washington fans after a couple
of days of the emotions calming down. But this demon
Williams thing, I'm really hopeful, like you said Dick at
the top of the show, is the straw that breaks
the camel's back and people just say enough. Petros doesn't
(27:23):
know if it will be. I'm hoping you're right, We're
gonna break
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