January 8, 2025 • 34 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Mike Florio about the NFL coaching moves ahead and the Seahawks off-season decisions, then talk about the Mariners making a minor signing before Kraken Head Coach Dan Bylsma jumps on.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where we go, So here we go. We got a
big show for you.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Dan Bilesma, coach of the Kraken, we'll join us coming
at three forty five his weekly visit courtesy of our
friends at Dick's Drive Ins.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Mike Florio will be with us in just a.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Matter of seconds here on the air from simply Seattle
dot com Pro Football Talk, Petros Kevin Harlan, the host
SPIO regular Wednesday lineup of stars here on the radio program.
And look, man, I gotta tell you, I mean, obviously
with Mike, there's a couple of things we got talking
about in his thoughts on the Ryan Greb firing. But man,
Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick are both back in the news.
(00:35):
Tom Pelasero is reporting that the Raiders and Tom Brady
have reached out to Bill to gauge his interest. There
was a report yesterday from Dan Gradseeattle the Bears are
going to interview Pete Carroll tomorrow. I was on a
station in Chicago today talking about Pete, and I don't
know what your thoughts are on that, what you would
say about him. I sold him hard to Chicago, like
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sold him hard. I think it'd be a home run
for the Bears, to get Pete Carroll, to have him,
to get to work with Caleb Williams right and to
mentor him. There's talent in that locker room right now.
They never should have been as bad as they were.
He's going to be seventy four in September. I get it,
he'd be the oldest coach in the history of the NFL.
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But he acts like a fifteen year old. You guys
know that as well as anybody.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And I mean it.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm not just saying it because I want to sabotage
the Bears, right, I think Pete Carroll will be a
grand slam.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well, and the last time you talked to Chicago Radio
about a coach, you were honest about Shane Waldron and
they just basically ripped you for telling the truth about
Shane Waldron.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And how'd that go for him? And I think you're good.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
You were right about Shane Waldron, and you're right about
Pete Carroll, And it just it seems like, yes, I know.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
He's thirteen years older than he was.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
When Russell Wilson was a rookie, but he's got an
uber talented mobile kind of you know, the guy that
loves to kind of spin around in the pocket and
make plays that he can kind of hone it and
make him successful. Because there's part of me that thinks
that if Russell Wilson would have gone to a different
type of coach, a coach that would have just let
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him be crazy when he was twenty three twenty four
years old, he would have had a similar type of
season of what Caleb Williams did this year, because Caleb
Williams is uber talented, but he didn't have a good
year because he was allowed to be just wacko.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Well, the difference are the similarities in some ways, or
that the Bears have a lot of talent around Calub
Williams already.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's not like they stink and they're asking him to
do everything.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
They don't have the defense that Hawks had, but nobody
will have the defense the Hawks had. It may have
been the greatest defensive four your run in the history
of the NFL. But he can be the last piece
and not the first piece. And that I still think
Russell Wilson guys coming in here in twenty twelve was
one of the greatest situations ever for a rookie in
the National Football League. Did not have to be the
man and have Marshawn and Golden Tate and Sidney Rice
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and Zach Miller and Michael Robinson and Russell o'cooing and
Max Hunger and then obviously the defense that he already had,
so killer situation for him. But I hope he gets
the job and I'll be rooting for it.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I'm feel sorry for us.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
The first thing I looked.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Is why the Hawks play the Bears next year, which
they do not, So we'll talk to Mike about that.
The Belichick thing is just literally thirteen days ago, you
and I are on the ear and we're talking about
the buyout for Bill Belichick's twelve million before.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
It's ten million dollars.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Now, if he waits until June the second, it's a
million bucks. Could this could be the greatest con in
the history of coaching.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But you would agree that no NFL team can wait
for that. They'd have to pay the ten million.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
They would have to pay the ten million for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Pelisaro's reporting now, I mean I thought he was like,
you know, damage goods that I don't know. Maybe it's
just Brady that wants him, and maybe it's a big
nothing Burger. But apparently there's teams that are inquiring if
he wants to go back to the NFL. How about
the guy though takes the job, waits until June, the
first pays the million bucks. So even if he pays
the ten million bucks or the team pays the ten
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million bucks and then Steve Belichie gets the job, Steve
Belichick wouldn't coach the carrol or the North Carolina Tario.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Why would Carolina picked Steve Belichick? Why not coach? Why
not because they wanted Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, maybe it's in his contract that if he leaves,
Steve gets the gig. I don't know what the contract
looks like. I got no fricking idea. Man, right, I'm believable.
I think you would think that Steve would go with
him to the NFL if he did something like that.
But holy moly, man all right, Mike Florio joins us
right now, It's.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
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(04:46):
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Speaker 2 (04:52):
He is a genuine butthole, a chance to talk to
the king of all NFL media man, no doubt when
it comes to breaking NFL newsf fell analysis, there is
nobody better than our friend from Pro Football Talk, the
NFL and NBC, Michael Florio, Mike, how are you man?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Happy New Year?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Butthole Belichick?
Speaker 6 (05:11):
It's too late to say Happy New Year? Is it
too late to stay Happy New Year?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Larry David says it expired like three days ago, so
it depends on how much.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, yeah, Unhappy week two of this.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Week two of the let's just say, I hope you
get to clap and move on.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Week two of the season of the year. I think
it's over. But how about the Belichick story. I mean,
just like a month ago, we're talking that maybe he's
not as desirable as people fought in the NFL. Now
there's a report out that teams like the Raiders are
asking him, if he wants to come back and leave
North Carolina, how much of this do you buy?
Speaker 6 (05:51):
His buyout has a ten million dollar requirement through June one.
After that it dropped to a million dollars. Now he
has refused to talk about it. He says, I didn't
come here to leave. He says the doors closed on
the NFL Action speak loud of the worst. That buyout
clause was negotiated into his contract. It wasn't randomly generated
by chat GPT. He wanted that, and it's much easier
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for him to go back to the NFL after this season,
or specifically after June one. But what's ten million dollars
to these owners who have billions, who have yachts in
the neighborhood of five hundred million dollars in value. They
spend ten million dollars in maintenance and staffing of their
super yacht in a month. This is nothing. If they
really want him, the question is can he find a
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place where everything lines up the way he likes it?
And would he leave North Carolina after such a short
period of time. Would they give the job to Steve
if he walked away? I don't think so. I think
Steve would go with him. He was trying to set
Steve up at a college program. I just can't imagine
him leaving at this point. He would look like a liar.
It would be worse than Nick Saban saying I'm not
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going to be the Alabama coach in December of two
thousand and seven, two weeks before he became the Alabama coach,
because at least he had a strategic reason for lying
that related to not disrupting his team. This is Belichick
just saying one thing and doing another. I think he
likes the ego boost that comes from the perception that
he's in demand, and it sets the table for next year.
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If he does well at North Carolina and it's only
a million dollars to get him, then he's in play.
And now we know he'll be in play because he
ended up being in play this year.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
SOFTI thinks Carol would be a great high in Chicago.
I think Carol would be a great high in Chicago.
How serious a candidate is he?
Speaker 6 (07:33):
I think Carol would not be a great hire in Chicago,
although I believe he should be back in the NFL.
They need an offensive coach who will get the most
out of Caleb Williams. And yes, people will say, well,
Pete Carroll developed Russell Wilson will He developed Russell Wilson
into more of a backyard player with the Legion of
Boom and Marshawn Lynch. Russell Wilson was never the quarterback
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for whom the offense ran. He wanted to be. It's
one of the reasons why he went to Denver and
it didn't work. So I don't think Carroll is the
guy you yet. And hey, ageism is real in the NFL,
and I don't want to contribute to it, as I'm
exactly five months away from turning sixty. But if you've
got a second year quarterback and you want a Sean
Payton Drew Brees type of a relationship that lasts well
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into the future, a seventy three year old head coach
who isn't an offensive specialist is not the way to
make it happen. And we were having fun with this
today when they interview Pete, hopefully he won't suggest his
most recent offensive coordinator, Shane Waldron, as his offensive coordinator
in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Well, the rumor, yeah, the rumor is that he was
one of the guys that was kind of in love
with Ryan Grubb and that John Schneider kind of went
down that road with him. So Ryan Grubb just got
fired after a year number one in Seattle. How surprised
were you by that?
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Well, I'm very surprised. And look, it makes you wonder
who made the higher, And if it's a Mike McDonald higher,
it's kind of a vote of no confidence in his
ability to put a staff together.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
But if this was.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Schneider tipping the scales and McDonald going along with it,
now they've decided they want to go in a different direction.
And I thought it was surprising to hear McDonald come
out so strongly in support of bringing back Gino Smith.
I think it's good, but I just think it was surprising.
And they need to make a decision because he's got
one year left on his contract.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
He's wanted to raise for a while. Now what are
they going to do.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
They're gonna make him play out his contract, They're going
to give him a new deal. How much security would
it have a lot of questions to be answered. And
when you're looking for an offensive coordinator, you need somebody
who's gonna get the most out of Geno smith. Sometimes
you'll hire a coordinator who brings the system to town.
Oh wait, the quarterback doesn't fit that system. We have
a problem. So this next tire is going to be
critical to Mike McDonald's future as head coach of the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Well, Doug Peterson was born and raised an hour and
a half north of Seattle, and he just got fired.
Is he a legit head coaching candidate still after getting
fired twice in five years?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Or is he maybe a candidate for this job?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
There are plenty of names we've heard this week. That
is one name that we have not heard as a
potential head coaching candidate nowhere. His name has not come
up as a coordinator if he wants to do it,
but I assume he's got at least a year or
two of a buyout from the Jaguars. You're working for free,
and some guys will do that because they just want
to stay in the game. They're addicted to the competitive edge,
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and they love everything about being around the team and
coaching young players, etc. But he may end up working
for free if he would go somewhere as an offensive coordinator,
because the Jaguars would get a credit for every dollar
that he makes for another team.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Where's Mike McCarthy coaching next year?
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Yeah, that's a great question. And if the Cowboys denied
permission to the Bears to interview McCarthy, who becomes a
free agent next Tuesday. The contract expires January fourteen. Until then,
the Cowboys can refuse permission to any team to talk
to him. If this is all part of some Jerry
Jones reality TV drama and he hasn't made a decision
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yet and will find out probably during the Packers Eagles
playoff game on Sunday, because we found out during the
Seahawks Eagles playoff game five years ago that Jason Garrett
wouldn't be back, and Jerry Jones likes the upstage football events.
I just hope they're not playing games with the guy.
I hope they intend to bring him back, And even
if they do, they're managing the leverage because he's going
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to have to determine what is behind door number one
and will he take it without knowing what's behind doing
number two? Because he isn't able to talk to these
other teams. He doesn't know whether another team's really serious
about him, and nobody's going to commit the job to
him without having a chance to talk to him. Look
at how many people the Bears are talking. They're talking
about everybody. So I think it's disappointing. The Cowboys did
it because on Sunday Jerry Jones said, you want to talk,
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go talk. We don't want people who don't want to
be here. And then when the time would come, or
when the time came, we're going to get permission, and
he said, yeah, he can go talk, you're just not
allowed dark to him.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Well, what I understand is, I mean I thought Mike
McCarthy was going to get fired if they missed the
playoffs by a game. I mean they missed the playoffs
by three or four games. And so what are we
even talking about here? Why has he even thought about
being brought back?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
A quarterback got hurt?
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Well, once they washed up on shore, like in November,
and then they started to get better, that's when things
became strange and we started to hear Jerry Jones say
positive things about Mike McCarthy, Stephen Jones positive things about
Mike McCarthy. And he already knows what he's going to do,
he said to Hayes and the Barn before the Week
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eighteen game against the Commander. They know what they're going
to do. It's just a matter of doing it. And
maybe they're willing to bring him back for a certain
amount of money, but no more than that. And that's
the one thing that never gets talked about. I need
to remember to write something about it because I brought
it up earlier today.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
On another radio appearance. I'm sorry, you guys aren't my
own thay.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Oh you're only only one in Seattle, but you're not
my only one coast to coast. How much money do
these teams offer? And he is there a gap between
what the Bears will pay and what the Jaguars will pay?
And I think collusion is real when it comes to
head coaching salaries. They have an agreed entry price, they
have an agreed maximum. They're very discreet about. You know,
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certain coaches are making X, and then there's extra money
to get funneled to them by other businesses owned by
the owner. They do their best, so I'll hold it
down because there's no salary cap, there's no salary floor,
and the owners have, I believe, tried to just kind
of collectively prevent bidding wars that will send the price
skyrocketing and make it harder and chew into your profit
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margin if you start throwing crazy money at coaches.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
So I'm just going to.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Assume they're all offering the same because I think that
there really is kind of a gentleman's agreement that this
is what we pay and we're not going to We're
not going to go back and forth and up the
price unnecessarily.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Mike Florial with us courtesy of our friends at simply Seattle.
Mike Sofi Stadium is about forty miles away from the
Malibu area, so they're not that close to the fires
raging right now in Palisades. But you know, the Kings
game got postponed tonight, the Lakers play tomorrow. Are you
thinking that there's any chance at all the NFL may
have to move this thing Monday night?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Oh? Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
When the NFL statement is we're closely monitoring the situation
and we're in touch with the teams in the union
and nothing more, that's a sign that a relocation of
the game is in play. If they weren't moving it,
they'd say they're not moving it. And the reality is
going to have to make a decision. You know, at
least twenty four maybe forty eight hours before kickoff. ESPN
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is going to have to get all of their equipment
to wherever they're going. I assume it would be Las
Vegas or Phoenix maybe, So what's the one Levi's Stadium?
Maybe Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara. But they've got to
make a decision and they've got to implement it because
we're five days away right now, and the clock is kicking,
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and it's a horrible situation that's unfolding in southern California.
And beyond where the fire is and what kind of
damage is doing, it's the air quality and there may
be very poor air quality in that stadium to the
point that it's unsafe for the players to play.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
We were talking yesterday about Geno come back at forty
four and a half million dollars next year or they
can cut him for less than fifteen million.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Is there any potential at all?
Speaker 6 (15:08):
The salary cap number is the salary cap number forty.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Four, Yes, forty four and a half. Forty four and
a half.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
They'd have to extend it. They'd have to extend him then,
and knock.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
That down right, I mean, that's obviously obviously one option.
Another option is to do what the Steelers did and
go get Kirk Cousins for one million dollars and cut
Gino Smith and eat the thirteen million you'd be getting
basically Kirk Cousins for fifteen million versus Geno for forty
four million.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Is that plausible?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Well, it's plausible. But here's the question.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
With Kirk Cousins, how's he reached the point in his
life where he just can't throw the ball without, you know,
fatiguing his entire body. Because I think what happened was
he had the torn achilles tendon and he musters, like
from his toes to his fingertips of power to throw
the ball. And we saw him just like cranking his
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body up to throw this year, I think you have
to appoint or his body said we've had enough. That's it,
we're done in contract. Aaron Rodgers, a guy who can
with the flick of the wrist throws forty yards. He
had the same injury, but he doesn't use his whole
body to get the pass off. So that's the distinction.
And I'd be very concerned that Cousins just can't do it.
So there are going to be veteran options out there,
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and that's what the Seahawks's going to have to ask themselves,
do we move on thirty one million dollars in cash
commitment to Gino Smith And the fact that they need
to cut that salary cap number down gives him some
leverage because you know, hey, there's like a what is
it with a fifteen million dollars sixteen million dollar? I
think it's sixteen million that's due the third day of
the league year. So they're going to lock into that
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forty four million, and he's going to have all the
power because he's got the big cap number. If they say,
all right, we're paying you the money moving forward, we
want to knock that cap number down, you better give
me what I want. That's how Dak Prescott ended up
getting sixty million a year from the Cowboys. He had
a cap number that was too high and the only
way to drop it was to do an extension, and
they finally blinked and gave him sixty million years.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, Mike Florio, as always love having you on. Cannot
wait to spend the year with you. Every Wednesday at
three t You're the man by s.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Acton for your athlete's foot.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
We'll talk in a week, buttole Mike Florio with us.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
We're gonna break Dan Bilzma from the Kraken joining us
coming up as well. H three forty five this afternoon,
Petros at four, Harlan's at five on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
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Speaker 2 (17:44):
All right, busy Wednesday, we got some breaking news to
report here on the radio station. I want you to
look at the clock and get the time, all timestamp
for you, three thirty one right now on the dot
on January the eighth of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Okay, I exact. I said, sarcasm coming, but I don't
know what's coming. Moment in time, remember this moment poisoned
girls in mid November.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well, we are all walking down Fourth Avenue with a
World Series trophy, freezing our asses off, confetti coming down,
crying our eyes out.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
We will remember this day as.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
The day the World Series roster came together, the day
the Mariners acquired Hagen Danner reliever from the Toronto Blue Jays,
the missing link and what it will take to push
this thing over the top.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Who's with me? So's your I.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
Mean, first, first, dick, Let's just who's with me?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Silence with me? That's crickets. You have your crickets. Nobody's
with me?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
And I'd say you just sorry, suns up bitches, your
little faith as Mike Holmrin likes to say, you don't.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Think cookies and cream is my favorite Hoggen Donner flavoring?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Like what is what is what they call him? The
ice cream Man?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Apparently, yeah, Baseball Reference dot Com. But you guys know,
Baseball Reference dot Com has like all these nicknames for me,
and I've never heard of one of.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Them who calls him that nobody calls him that he
speaks me. He's appeared in one game.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
He doesn't have a nickname yet, you dorks, are you
kidding me?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
He's got a nickname, and he's recorded what out.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
When he comes in like in the Miners when he
came out of the bullpen? Would they play the d
D And that's really intimidating, by the way, right, I
think of think of Mariano Rivera coming out to enter Sandman.
Here comes Trevor Hoffman to Hell's Bells, and here comes
Hagen Danner. Two Hogen Donner, I mean just calling him.
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I don't care how it's pronounced.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I thought it was like a German you know, I
honestly thought when they announced the move, because the maritors,
and they should. When they have partnerships with people, they
announce them on social media.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Right, we're doing that.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I thought they had formed like a relationship with a
German yogurt company or something. And this is now we'll
be serving Hogen Danner at Tamobile Park.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
He comes out of the pen.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Dude, you gotta you gotta get me Hell's Bells an
Inner Sandman, you gotta do it.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
This is the music you should come into.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
No, No, because I want to compare, and well I
want to.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I want to see you how much your bunghole shrivels
up when you hear Inner Sandman Hell's Bells and then
when you hear Hogen.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Is it Hogen or Hagen?
Speaker 8 (20:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I'm gonna get Hagen Danner coming into this, Gotta.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Tell you what I mean compared to Oh, that's the live.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Version of that.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Jackson Jesus terrible.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
Well the other one says the lyrics, so I know
I can't play that. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I mean, you get my points about the best hitters
in the American League just shaking in their heart, right, Oh.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, totally yeah, Aaron Judges. Well, here's so, here's the
moves the Mariners have made so far. They got they
got Hoggin DAWs from the Blue Jays, who's appeared in
one game and has recorded one out as a reliever.
They got Nick Riposo, a catcher from was he also
from Toronto, by the way, or was he from Texas?
Nicky Roposa? Where did nicky Roposo come from? But he's
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appeared in a grand total of zero games, by the way,
so far, and he's twenty six years old. And they
got first basement Austin Shenton Verposo was a cardinal.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
They got Austin Shenton, I believe from Tampa Bay. He's
appeared in nineteen games so far, with a career batting
average of two fourteen. So I think we just all
put our hands together so far and just congratulate played far.
Thank you joining me Jackson Place Jerry Depoto on a
job well done so far over the offseason.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Hey, you know what the best news is for Jerry
to Poto.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
By the way, it's January of the eight, that's right,
that's the only only being, that's the only thing he's
got going for him.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
It's January.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
So claug is ticking. We are five weeks from pitchers
and catches.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
They send out an application today for credentials for spring training.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
The Mariners did, okay, we are less than three months.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
We are two months and two weeks, two months and
three weeks away from opening day. So the clack is
ticking on Jerry Depoto.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
There is.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I mean, these are obvious holes that have to be filled, right,
So there's no question something's going to be done. I
just don't know how aggressive they're going to be in
doing it. I mean, is it going to be a
trade for Luis Castillo for a legitimate bat to save
some money and then go get another legitimate bat with
that money that you saved, Right, That's kind of what
I'm hoping for, because I think that's the only way
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that you can get two legitimate bats from the outside
is if you pay for one and then you trade
for one, which is really.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Sad, but it's reality, right, I mean, that's kind of
been your point all along that. I mean, I don't know,
I'll be happy if they do that. I still want
to bitch about it.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Would you bitch about it if that happened, though, if
you got to, like, legit, eight hundred plus ops guys
in here and all you lost was Laura Luis Castillo.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Uh, there is no chance that happens because of the
dearth of that of bats available. There's almost more pitching
than there is offense right now, Like a lot of
teams are going for offense. But just to answer your question, yes,
I would be happy if that happened, but that's not
gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
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Speaker 7 (23:26):
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Speaker 1 (23:47):
The line back out on mccahleft side. Dallot with a
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Speaker 6 (23:54):
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he picks up his eighth on this season.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
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Speaker 1 (24:09):
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the head coach of the cracking with us now on
the air, coach, how are you?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
I am good on the road in Columbus, little snow here. Yeah,
there you go, per per perfect hockey weather.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Well, let's let's talk about that because we were kind
of yacking off the air a little bit. That sometimes
when the team is struggling, and this I think goes
for really any sports, sometimes good to get away right,
get to the hotel, kind of bond a little bit.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You've been around this game a long time, do you
feel like that this might be the perfect time for
a little five game road trip?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Absolutely? I think you know, we we're talking about the
midpoint the season, last game, and you know we we
know right where we're at the standings, that's we can
be better. Were looking for a few more wins, but
no better chance than I'm the road, going on the road,
twelve days with the guys and five games on a
road trip. We got Columbus, Buffalo, Detroit, Pittsburgh, and Winnipeg
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and great to trade opportunities to turn this thing around.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
And it's not like you haven't done it before. I
mean you just have to go back a month. I mean,
you had that Carolina, New York, New Jersey, New York
trip and we're fantastic. So what were the vibes during
that trip and how do you think you replicate them
this trip?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
I think actually quite quite similar to this trip. At
that point in the season, we had come off a
few losses and the consistencies in our game and we
all knew it, we all recognized it, and the road
was a chance in Carolina against a good team to
play some of our best hockey. And it's no different now.
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We came back from the break and got an overtime
win and a Utah win i'm a shootout loss, and
the last two games against New Jersey I think was
a game we think we could have fared betteran we got.
They got some great goaltending, and we had some chances
to score three or four times there were red belts
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days by Marshrom but the result wasn't what we were
looking for. And I think as a as a group
and as a team, we're still striving for our best
each and every night in sixty minutes, and sometimes there's
no better way to get that focus and go on
the road.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Well, Dick, Dick mentioned that road trip going back when
you started off obviously on the third of December of Carolina,
you go three and one, and you made some moves.
I mean, you sat some guys down for a little bit.
And now this road trip kind of coincides with Daniel
Sproung getting waived, you know, second time he's been let
go after you picked him up again from the Canucks.
And I don't want to put that in the same
category as maybe a Burakowski, but that that move that
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you guys made.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Talk about that and and and why that move was made.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Coach, Well, we you know, part of part of the
story of last little Bits Ben some injuries and some
injuries and sicknesses last in it. And we've seen some
roster moves bringing the two defensemen up in case our
guys couldn't get in the lineup in Yanni Gord not
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playing the last couple of games. So we've had a
lot of different roster moves, and those you know much
like to sit out before. Like sometimes the roster moves
have a have give a jump start to the to
the group, give a give an unnotice to the group,
and and I would think this was no different.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Well, seems like the roster move with with Shane Wright
where you sat him down a bit, I mean just
as a as a twenty year old at that time,
and then you've brought him back. He got a goal
in the last game, talk about his progress since being
back in the rotation.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It's never I think, I guess it's sometimes a cliche.
You need to have a reset, you need to see
one from the bleachers and see, uh, see the game
from a little bit different perspective to sit out. But
with Shane I think, you know, we talk about him
having come into training camp and and like as a
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new person, and how he played and how he skated
and how he was on the ice, he was he
he was clearly had taken a step and throughout the
the course of the first twenty games or so, the
grind of the season, the day in and day out,
got lost on him a little bit. And I think
the reset, so to speak, was a chance to get
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back to that training camp mindset, get back to just
playing hockey, and and when he stepped back in the lineup,
especially the first five or six games after that shut down,
it was clearly clearly he took the message and clearly
he got back to playing the way he did the
way he came into training camp. And you know, there's
the grind of the season keeps going. And he's been
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in and out, you know, in and out of that
grind with the season, with the break, with the holiday break,
we've had some sickness and injuries, and still in that grind.
But the last couple of games, I think you've seen
him play some of his best hockey and he's scored
some goal as a power play goal included in that
in the New Jersey game.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yep, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Dan Bosma with US coach of the Crack and Crack
and starting a five game road trip tomorrow at Columbus
three thirty pre game four o'clock face off right here
on ninety three to three kJ IRFM. And I'm glad
that you mentioned the power play because you've mentioned the
top that there's just some stuff that you'd like to
see the team do better at. And I mean, look,
I'm no, I'm no genius over here, but I would
think that consistency with your power play and on the
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defensive side would be right there at the top.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I mean, am I am I unfair with that?
Speaker 6 (29:35):
No?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
The power play. Power play is a critical piece in
winning hockey games. Power play penalty kill, and it's a
game to game thing, your powers life. You can be
great one night win your hockey game and the next
night can go home for six and it's no good.
And so the consistency night in the night out from
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the power play, consistency and providing really just mojo for
the group. And when the power play provides that mojo
and power play has shot generated and power play gets
scoring chances, it just whether it scores the goal or not,
it adds. It adds, uh, it adds to how we
want to play five on five and that consistency, you know,
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is something we're striving for in our five on five
game and in the power play.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Dan, I'm just curious just to follow up on that
in the powerplay situation, because you know, just in an
effort to get people to understand kind of what you
guys are doing over there, like for example, you know,
basketball wise, you get your defensive guys, you're shooting guys.
As far as coaches, baseball infield coaches, hitting coaches, as
you know, your football. Same thing when it comes to
your power play, Who's who's running that? It was reported
(30:45):
it was Bob and then and then Jessica maybe took over.
So who's who's the main coach on your bench responsible
for the power play?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Jessica is the I would say, the main coach for
the power play Bob and Bob and Jess of those
responsibilities they are implementing and working with the players together.
They're doing it together, and you know it is it
is a lot like us a specialty coach. But our practices,
our meetings are our intent, our messaging has come from
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Jess and Bob, and you know, I think, I think
again the power play is it's it's always a focal
point and it's always can it always can be better.
You can be at twenty five percent and it's all
about the next game. It doesn't the power play. The
percentage is what we look at, but it's it's always
about the next game. It's always about the next opportunity,
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because again it's so critical to the importance of it's
a huge part of winning hockey games. And so it's
not you know, it's easy to look at the percentage
of say good, bad or and different. But the power
player gets the opportunity last game, one opportunity in the
in the game we're down to one and they come
out in the third period, get us that goal, get
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us a chance to win that hockey game.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Coach eight games in now with with Coppo, and he's
given you four assists in the last four games.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Talk about what he's brought you, guys.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Continued continued improvement in his game. I think you know,
the made the made the trade and and the New
York getting a he's not young anymore, but a second
overall pick that's still developing in his career and looking
for a bigger role in a bigger spot. And you know,
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I I give him a pass. On the first game
in Chicago, got in at one point thirty at night
and stepped on the ice the next day without a
practice and played and uh, but since then, pretty much
every game we've seen, and it's it's growing with Matty
Veneer's and Jayden Schwartz and his line. But a guy
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who can be a big bodied winger, skateswell, can make plays,
hold out of the pocket, as a presence at the net.
It's it's. Uh, some of the continuity in the in
the line has been they thank you. They've been our
best line, you know, for probably the last five or
six games. And you've seen it in the two passes
that he made for breakaways in the one game, and
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you see it last game on the power play, and
he's a NetFront presence and where he's particularly good and
makes the play of shame right in for the goal.
But it's it's happening. It's it's great to see because
he's a big body guy something you know, I think
as a team we longed for a big body guy
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who can have a presence on the inside and be
good at the net and be a physical you know,
physical presence, physical not just being hitting, but physical presence,
hard to get up the puck. And it's it's it's
great to see.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Hey, no place like the road, right, go out there,
kick their butt tomorrow and we'll.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Talk on Wednesday. Coach, besta luck and I appreciate.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
This man, all right, Thanks guys, you got it.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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And look, man, I gotta tell you, I mean, obviously
with Mike, there's a couple of things we got talking
about in his thoughts on the Ryan Greb firing. But man,
Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick are both back in the news.
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Tom Pelasero is reporting that the Raiders and Tom Brady
have reached out to Bill to gauge his interest. There
was a report yesterday from Dan Gradseeattle the Bears are
going to interview Pete Carroll tomorrow. I was on a
station in Chicago today talking about Pete, and I don't
know what your thoughts are on that, what you would
say about him. I sold him hard to Chicago, like
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sold him hard. I think it'd be a home run
for the Bears, to get Pete Carroll, to have him,
to get to work with Caleb Williams right and to
mentor him. There's talent in that locker room right now.
They never should have been as bad as they were.
He's going to be seventy four in September. I get it,
he'd be the oldest coach in the history of the NFL.
(01:18):
But he acts like a fifteen year old. You guys
know that as well as anybody.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And I mean it.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm not just saying it because I want to sabotage
the Bears, right, I think Pete Carroll will be a
grand slam.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well, and the last time you talked to Chicago Radio
about a coach, you were honest about Shane Waldron and
they just basically ripped you for telling the truth about
Shane Waldron.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And how'd that go for him? And I think you're good.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
You were right about Shane Waldron, and you're right about
Pete Carroll, And it just it seems like, yes, I know.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
He's thirteen years older than he was.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
When Russell Wilson was a rookie, but he's got an
uber talented mobile kind of you know, the guy that
loves to kind of spin around in the pocket and
make plays that he can kind of hone it and
make him successful. Because there's part of me that thinks
that if Russell Wilson would have gone to a different
type of coach, a coach that would have just let
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him be crazy when he was twenty three twenty four
years old, he would have had a similar type of
season of what Caleb Williams did this year, because Caleb
Williams is uber talented, but he didn't have a good
year because he was allowed to be just wacko.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Well, the difference are the similarities in some ways, or
that the Bears have a lot of talent around Calub
Williams already.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's not like they stink and they're asking him to
do everything.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
They don't have the defense that Hawks had, but nobody
will have the defense the Hawks had. It may have
been the greatest defensive four your run in the history
of the NFL. But he can be the last piece
and not the first piece. And that I still think
Russell Wilson guys coming in here in twenty twelve was
one of the greatest situations ever for a rookie in
the National Football League. Did not have to be the
man and have Marshawn and Golden Tate and Sidney Rice
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and Zach Miller and Michael Robinson and Russell o'cooing and
Max Hunger and then obviously the defense that he already had,
so killer situation for him. But I hope he gets
the job and I'll be rooting for it.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I'm feel sorry for us.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
The first thing I looked.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Is why the Hawks play the Bears next year, which
they do not, So we'll talk to Mike about that.
The Belichick thing is just literally thirteen days ago, you
and I are on the ear and we're talking about
the buyout for Bill Belichick's twelve million before.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
It's ten million dollars.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Now, if he waits until June the second, it's a
million bucks. Could this could be the greatest con in
the history of coaching.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But you would agree that no NFL team can wait
for that. They'd have to pay the ten million.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
They would have to pay the ten million for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Pelisaro's reporting now, I mean I thought he was like,
you know, damage goods that I don't know. Maybe it's
just Brady that wants him, and maybe it's a big
nothing Burger. But apparently there's teams that are inquiring if
he wants to go back to the NFL. How about
the guy though takes the job, waits until June, the
first pays the million bucks. So even if he pays
the ten million bucks or the team pays the ten
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million bucks and then Steve Belichie gets the job, Steve
Belichick wouldn't coach the carrol or the North Carolina Tario.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Why would Carolina picked Steve Belichick? Why not coach? Why
not because they wanted Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, maybe it's in his contract that if he leaves,
Steve gets the gig. I don't know what the contract
looks like. I got no fricking idea. Man, right, I'm believable.
I think you would think that Steve would go with
him to the NFL if he did something like that.
But holy moly, man all right, Mike Florio joins us
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Speaker 2 (04:52):
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the king of all NFL media man, no doubt when
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nobody better than our friend from Pro Football Talk, the
NFL and NBC, Michael Florio, Mike, how are you man?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Happy New Year?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Butthole Belichick?
Speaker 6 (05:11):
It's too late to say Happy New Year? Is it
too late to stay Happy New Year?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Larry David says it expired like three days ago, so
it depends on how much.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, yeah, Unhappy week two of this.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Week two of the let's just say, I hope you
get to clap and move on.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Week two of the season of the year. I think
it's over. But how about the Belichick story. I mean,
just like a month ago, we're talking that maybe he's
not as desirable as people fought in the NFL. Now
there's a report out that teams like the Raiders are
asking him, if he wants to come back and leave
North Carolina, how much of this do you buy?
Speaker 6 (05:51):
His buyout has a ten million dollar requirement through June one.
After that it dropped to a million dollars. Now he
has refused to talk about it. He says, I didn't
come here to leave. He says the doors closed on
the NFL Action speak loud of the worst. That buyout
clause was negotiated into his contract. It wasn't randomly generated
by chat GPT. He wanted that, and it's much easier
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for him to go back to the NFL after this season,
or specifically after June one. But what's ten million dollars
to these owners who have billions, who have yachts in
the neighborhood of five hundred million dollars in value. They
spend ten million dollars in maintenance and staffing of their
super yacht in a month. This is nothing. If they
really want him, the question is can he find a
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place where everything lines up the way he likes it?
And would he leave North Carolina after such a short
period of time. Would they give the job to Steve
if he walked away? I don't think so. I think
Steve would go with him. He was trying to set
Steve up at a college program. I just can't imagine
him leaving at this point. He would look like a liar.
It would be worse than Nick Saban saying I'm not
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going to be the Alabama coach in December of two
thousand and seven, two weeks before he became the Alabama coach,
because at least he had a strategic reason for lying
that related to not disrupting his team. This is Belichick
just saying one thing and doing another. I think he
likes the ego boost that comes from the perception that
he's in demand, and it sets the table for next year.
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If he does well at North Carolina and it's only
a million dollars to get him, then he's in play.
And now we know he'll be in play because he
ended up being in play this year.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
SOFTI thinks Carol would be a great high in Chicago.
I think Carol would be a great high in Chicago.
How serious a candidate is he?
Speaker 6 (07:33):
I think Carol would not be a great hire in Chicago,
although I believe he should be back in the NFL.
They need an offensive coach who will get the most
out of Caleb Williams. And yes, people will say, well,
Pete Carroll developed Russell Wilson will He developed Russell Wilson
into more of a backyard player with the Legion of
Boom and Marshawn Lynch. Russell Wilson was never the quarterback
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for whom the offense ran. He wanted to be. It's
one of the reasons why he went to Denver and
it didn't work. So I don't think Carroll is the
guy you yet. And hey, ageism is real in the NFL,
and I don't want to contribute to it, as I'm
exactly five months away from turning sixty. But if you've
got a second year quarterback and you want a Sean
Payton Drew Brees type of a relationship that lasts well
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into the future, a seventy three year old head coach
who isn't an offensive specialist is not the way to
make it happen. And we were having fun with this
today when they interview Pete, hopefully he won't suggest his
most recent offensive coordinator, Shane Waldron, as his offensive coordinator
in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Well, the rumor, yeah, the rumor is that he was
one of the guys that was kind of in love
with Ryan Grubb and that John Schneider kind of went
down that road with him. So Ryan Grubb just got
fired after a year number one in Seattle. How surprised
were you by that?
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Well, I'm very surprised. And look, it makes you wonder
who made the higher, And if it's a Mike McDonald higher,
it's kind of a vote of no confidence in his
ability to put a staff together.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
But if this was.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Schneider tipping the scales and McDonald going along with it,
now they've decided they want to go in a different direction.
And I thought it was surprising to hear McDonald come
out so strongly in support of bringing back Gino Smith.
I think it's good, but I just think it was surprising.
And they need to make a decision because he's got
one year left on his contract.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
He's wanted to raise for a while. Now what are
they going to do.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
They're gonna make him play out his contract, They're going
to give him a new deal. How much security would
it have a lot of questions to be answered. And
when you're looking for an offensive coordinator, you need somebody
who's gonna get the most out of Geno smith. Sometimes
you'll hire a coordinator who brings the system to town.
Oh wait, the quarterback doesn't fit that system. We have
a problem. So this next tire is going to be
critical to Mike McDonald's future as head coach of the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Well, Doug Peterson was born and raised an hour and
a half north of Seattle, and he just got fired.
Is he a legit head coaching candidate still after getting
fired twice in five years?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Or is he maybe a candidate for this job?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
There are plenty of names we've heard this week. That
is one name that we have not heard as a
potential head coaching candidate nowhere. His name has not come
up as a coordinator if he wants to do it,
but I assume he's got at least a year or
two of a buyout from the Jaguars. You're working for free,
and some guys will do that because they just want
to stay in the game. They're addicted to the competitive edge,
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and they love everything about being around the team and
coaching young players, etc. But he may end up working
for free if he would go somewhere as an offensive coordinator,
because the Jaguars would get a credit for every dollar
that he makes for another team.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Where's Mike McCarthy coaching next year?
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Yeah, that's a great question. And if the Cowboys denied
permission to the Bears to interview McCarthy, who becomes a
free agent next Tuesday. The contract expires January fourteen. Until then,
the Cowboys can refuse permission to any team to talk
to him. If this is all part of some Jerry
Jones reality TV drama and he hasn't made a decision
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yet and will find out probably during the Packers Eagles
playoff game on Sunday, because we found out during the
Seahawks Eagles playoff game five years ago that Jason Garrett
wouldn't be back, and Jerry Jones likes the upstage football events.
I just hope they're not playing games with the guy.
I hope they intend to bring him back, And even
if they do, they're managing the leverage because he's going
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to have to determine what is behind door number one
and will he take it without knowing what's behind doing
number two? Because he isn't able to talk to these
other teams. He doesn't know whether another team's really serious
about him, and nobody's going to commit the job to
him without having a chance to talk to him. Look
at how many people the Bears are talking. They're talking
about everybody. So I think it's disappointing. The Cowboys did
it because on Sunday Jerry Jones said, you want to talk,
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go talk. We don't want people who don't want to
be here. And then when the time would come, or
when the time came, we're going to get permission, and
he said, yeah, he can go talk, you're just not
allowed dark to him.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Well, what I understand is, I mean I thought Mike
McCarthy was going to get fired if they missed the
playoffs by a game. I mean they missed the playoffs
by three or four games. And so what are we
even talking about here? Why has he even thought about
being brought back?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
A quarterback got hurt?
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Well, once they washed up on shore, like in November,
and then they started to get better, that's when things
became strange and we started to hear Jerry Jones say
positive things about Mike McCarthy, Stephen Jones positive things about
Mike McCarthy. And he already knows what he's going to do,
he said to Hayes and the Barn before the Week
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eighteen game against the Commander. They know what they're going
to do. It's just a matter of doing it. And
maybe they're willing to bring him back for a certain
amount of money, but no more than that. And that's
the one thing that never gets talked about. I need
to remember to write something about it because I brought
it up earlier today.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
On another radio appearance. I'm sorry, you guys aren't my
own thay.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Oh you're only only one in Seattle, but you're not
my only one coast to coast. How much money do
these teams offer? And he is there a gap between
what the Bears will pay and what the Jaguars will pay?
And I think collusion is real when it comes to
head coaching salaries. They have an agreed entry price, they
have an agreed maximum. They're very discreet about. You know,
(12:58):
certain coaches are making X, and then there's extra money
to get funneled to them by other businesses owned by
the owner. They do their best, so I'll hold it
down because there's no salary cap, there's no salary floor,
and the owners have, I believe, tried to just kind
of collectively prevent bidding wars that will send the price
skyrocketing and make it harder and chew into your profit
(13:21):
margin if you start throwing crazy money at coaches.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
So I'm just going to.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Assume they're all offering the same because I think that
there really is kind of a gentleman's agreement that this
is what we pay and we're not going to We're
not going to go back and forth and up the
price unnecessarily.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Mike Florial with us courtesy of our friends at simply Seattle.
Mike Sofi Stadium is about forty miles away from the
Malibu area, so they're not that close to the fires
raging right now in Palisades. But you know, the Kings
game got postponed tonight, the Lakers play tomorrow. Are you
thinking that there's any chance at all the NFL may
have to move this thing Monday night?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Oh? Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
When the NFL statement is we're closely monitoring the situation
and we're in touch with the teams in the union
and nothing more, that's a sign that a relocation of
the game is in play. If they weren't moving it,
they'd say they're not moving it. And the reality is
going to have to make a decision. You know, at
least twenty four maybe forty eight hours before kickoff. ESPN
(14:23):
is going to have to get all of their equipment
to wherever they're going. I assume it would be Las
Vegas or Phoenix maybe, So what's the one Levi's Stadium?
Maybe Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara. But they've got to
make a decision and they've got to implement it because
we're five days away right now, and the clock is kicking,
(14:43):
and it's a horrible situation that's unfolding in southern California.
And beyond where the fire is and what kind of
damage is doing, it's the air quality and there may
be very poor air quality in that stadium to the
point that it's unsafe for the players to play.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
We were talking yesterday about Geno come back at forty
four and a half million dollars next year or they
can cut him for less than fifteen million.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Is there any potential at all?
Speaker 6 (15:08):
The salary cap number is the salary cap number forty.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Four, Yes, forty four and a half. Forty four and
a half.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
They'd have to extend it. They'd have to extend him then,
and knock.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
That down right, I mean, that's obviously obviously one option.
Another option is to do what the Steelers did and
go get Kirk Cousins for one million dollars and cut
Gino Smith and eat the thirteen million you'd be getting
basically Kirk Cousins for fifteen million versus Geno for forty
four million.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Is that plausible?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Well, it's plausible. But here's the question.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
With Kirk Cousins, how's he reached the point in his
life where he just can't throw the ball without, you know,
fatiguing his entire body. Because I think what happened was
he had the torn achilles tendon and he musters, like
from his toes to his fingertips of power to throw
the ball. And we saw him just like cranking his
(15:57):
body up to throw this year, I think you have
to appoint or his body said we've had enough. That's it,
we're done in contract. Aaron Rodgers, a guy who can
with the flick of the wrist throws forty yards. He
had the same injury, but he doesn't use his whole
body to get the pass off. So that's the distinction.
And I'd be very concerned that Cousins just can't do it.
So there are going to be veteran options out there,
(16:17):
and that's what the Seahawks's going to have to ask themselves,
do we move on thirty one million dollars in cash
commitment to Gino Smith And the fact that they need
to cut that salary cap number down gives him some
leverage because you know, hey, there's like a what is
it with a fifteen million dollars sixteen million dollar? I
think it's sixteen million that's due the third day of
the league year. So they're going to lock into that
(16:40):
forty four million, and he's going to have all the
power because he's got the big cap number. If they say,
all right, we're paying you the money moving forward, we
want to knock that cap number down, you better give
me what I want. That's how Dak Prescott ended up
getting sixty million a year from the Cowboys. He had
a cap number that was too high and the only
way to drop it was to do an extension, and
they finally blinked and gave him sixty million years.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, Mike Florio, as always love having you on. Cannot
wait to spend the year with you. Every Wednesday at
three t You're the man by s.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Acton for your athlete's foot.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
We'll talk in a week, buttole Mike Florio with us.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
We're gonna break Dan Bilzma from the Kraken joining us
coming up as well. H three forty five this afternoon,
Petros at four, Harlan's at five on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Much from the R and R Foundation specialists broadcast studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick on your home for
the Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point
three kJ R FM.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
All right, busy Wednesday, we got some breaking news to
report here on the radio station. I want you to
look at the clock and get the time, all timestamp
for you, three thirty one right now on the dot
on January the eighth of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Okay, I exact. I said, sarcasm coming, but I don't
know what's coming. Moment in time, remember this moment poisoned
girls in mid November.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well, we are all walking down Fourth Avenue with a
World Series trophy, freezing our asses off, confetti coming down,
crying our eyes out.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
We will remember this day as.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
The day the World Series roster came together, the day
the Mariners acquired Hagen Danner reliever from the Toronto Blue Jays,
the missing link and what it will take to push
this thing over the top.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Who's with me? So's your I.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
Mean, first, first, dick, Let's just who's with me?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Silence with me? That's crickets. You have your crickets. Nobody's
with me?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
And I'd say you just sorry, suns up bitches, your
little faith as Mike Holmrin likes to say, you don't.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Think cookies and cream is my favorite Hoggen Donner flavoring?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Like what is what is what they call him? The
ice cream Man?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Apparently, yeah, Baseball Reference dot Com. But you guys know,
Baseball Reference dot Com has like all these nicknames for me,
and I've never heard of one of.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Them who calls him that nobody calls him that he
speaks me. He's appeared in one game.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
He doesn't have a nickname yet, you dorks, are you
kidding me?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
He's got a nickname, and he's recorded what out.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
When he comes in like in the Miners when he
came out of the bullpen? Would they play the d
D And that's really intimidating, by the way, right, I
think of think of Mariano Rivera coming out to enter Sandman.
Here comes Trevor Hoffman to Hell's Bells, and here comes
Hagen Danner. Two Hogen Donner, I mean just calling him.
(19:57):
I don't care how it's pronounced.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I thought it was like a German you know, I
honestly thought when they announced the move, because the maritors,
and they should. When they have partnerships with people, they
announce them on social media.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Right, we're doing that.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I thought they had formed like a relationship with a
German yogurt company or something. And this is now we'll
be serving Hogen Danner at Tamobile Park.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
He comes out of the pen.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Dude, you gotta you gotta get me Hell's Bells an
Inner Sandman, you gotta do it.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
This is the music you should come into.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
No, No, because I want to compare, and well I
want to.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I want to see you how much your bunghole shrivels
up when you hear Inner Sandman Hell's Bells and then
when you hear Hogen.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Is it Hogen or Hagen?
Speaker 8 (20:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I'm gonna get Hagen Danner coming into this, Gotta.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Tell you what I mean compared to Oh, that's the live.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Version of that.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Jackson Jesus terrible.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
Well the other one says the lyrics, so I know
I can't play that. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I mean, you get my points about the best hitters
in the American League just shaking in their heart, right, Oh.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, totally yeah, Aaron Judges. Well, here's so, here's the
moves the Mariners have made so far. They got they
got Hoggin DAWs from the Blue Jays, who's appeared in
one game and has recorded one out as a reliever.
They got Nick Riposo, a catcher from was he also
from Toronto, by the way, or was he from Texas?
Nicky Roposa? Where did nicky Roposo come from? But he's
(21:25):
appeared in a grand total of zero games, by the way,
so far, and he's twenty six years old. And they
got first basement Austin Shenton Verposo was a cardinal.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
They got Austin Shenton, I believe from Tampa Bay. He's
appeared in nineteen games so far, with a career batting
average of two fourteen. So I think we just all
put our hands together so far and just congratulate played far.
Thank you joining me Jackson Place Jerry Depoto on a
job well done so far over the offseason.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Hey, you know what the best news is for Jerry
to Poto.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
By the way, it's January of the eight, that's right,
that's the only only being, that's the only thing he's
got going for him.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
It's January.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
So claug is ticking. We are five weeks from pitchers
and catches.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
They send out an application today for credentials for spring training.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
The Mariners did, okay, we are less than three months.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
We are two months and two weeks, two months and
three weeks away from opening day. So the clack is
ticking on Jerry Depoto.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
There is.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I mean, these are obvious holes that have to be filled, right,
So there's no question something's going to be done. I
just don't know how aggressive they're going to be in
doing it. I mean, is it going to be a
trade for Luis Castillo for a legitimate bat to save
some money and then go get another legitimate bat with
that money that you saved, Right, That's kind of what
I'm hoping for, because I think that's the only way
(22:46):
that you can get two legitimate bats from the outside
is if you pay for one and then you trade
for one, which is really.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Sad, but it's reality, right, I mean, that's kind of
been your point all along that. I mean, I don't know,
I'll be happy if they do that. I still want
to bitch about it.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Would you bitch about it if that happened, though, if
you got to, like, legit, eight hundred plus ops guys
in here and all you lost was Laura Luis Castillo.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Uh, there is no chance that happens because of the
dearth of that of bats available. There's almost more pitching
than there is offense right now, Like a lot of
teams are going for offense. But just to answer your question, yes,
I would be happy if that happened, but that's not
gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
But we're gonna break. Dan Bilzma, coach of the Kraken.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
Next, it's time for Sadian Dick's weekly visit with Seattle
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Dick's Drive In, serving Great Vigers, fries and shakes to
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Speaker 1 (23:47):
The line back out on mccahleft side. Dallot with a
bunch of lies.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
Like all to say right at the front of d
he picks up his eighth on this season.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
All right, boys and girls, we're back on a Wednesday afternoon.
Big thanks to our friends that Dick's Drive Ins for
sponsoring this shindig every single week, win or lose.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Up or down, left or right, right or wrong.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Dan Bilesma delivers every single Wednesday at three forty five,
the head coach of the cracking with us now on
the air, coach, how are you?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
I am good on the road in Columbus, little snow here. Yeah,
there you go, per per perfect hockey weather.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Well, let's let's talk about that because we were kind
of yacking off the air a little bit. That sometimes
when the team is struggling, and this I think goes
for really any sports, sometimes good to get away right,
get to the hotel, kind of bond a little bit.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You've been around this game a long time, do you
feel like that this might be the perfect time for
a little five game road trip?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Absolutely? I think you know, we we're talking about the
midpoint the season, last game, and you know we we
know right where we're at the standings, that's we can
be better. Were looking for a few more wins, but
no better chance than I'm the road, going on the road,
twelve days with the guys and five games on a
road trip. We got Columbus, Buffalo, Detroit, Pittsburgh, and Winnipeg
(25:08):
and great to trade opportunities to turn this thing around.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
And it's not like you haven't done it before. I
mean you just have to go back a month. I mean,
you had that Carolina, New York, New Jersey, New York
trip and we're fantastic. So what were the vibes during
that trip and how do you think you replicate them
this trip?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
I think actually quite quite similar to this trip. At
that point in the season, we had come off a
few losses and the consistencies in our game and we
all knew it, we all recognized it, and the road
was a chance in Carolina against a good team to
play some of our best hockey. And it's no different now.
(25:47):
We came back from the break and got an overtime
win and a Utah win i'm a shootout loss, and
the last two games against New Jersey I think was
a game we think we could have fared betteran we got.
They got some great goaltending, and we had some chances
to score three or four times there were red belts
(26:08):
days by Marshrom but the result wasn't what we were
looking for. And I think as a as a group
and as a team, we're still striving for our best
each and every night in sixty minutes, and sometimes there's
no better way to get that focus and go on
the road.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Well, Dick, Dick mentioned that road trip going back when
you started off obviously on the third of December of Carolina,
you go three and one, and you made some moves.
I mean, you sat some guys down for a little bit.
And now this road trip kind of coincides with Daniel
Sproung getting waived, you know, second time he's been let
go after you picked him up again from the Canucks.
And I don't want to put that in the same
category as maybe a Burakowski, but that that move that
(26:46):
you guys made.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Talk about that and and and why that move was made.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Coach, Well, we you know, part of part of the
story of last little Bits Ben some injuries and some
injuries and sicknesses last in it. And we've seen some
roster moves bringing the two defensemen up in case our
guys couldn't get in the lineup in Yanni Gord not
(27:10):
playing the last couple of games. So we've had a
lot of different roster moves, and those you know much
like to sit out before. Like sometimes the roster moves
have a have give a jump start to the to
the group, give a give an unnotice to the group,
and and I would think this was no different.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Well, seems like the roster move with with Shane Wright
where you sat him down a bit, I mean just
as a as a twenty year old at that time,
and then you've brought him back. He got a goal
in the last game, talk about his progress since being
back in the rotation.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It's never I think, I guess it's sometimes a cliche.
You need to have a reset, you need to see
one from the bleachers and see, uh, see the game
from a little bit different perspective to sit out. But
with Shane I think, you know, we talk about him
having come into training camp and and like as a
(28:05):
new person, and how he played and how he skated
and how he was on the ice, he was he
he was clearly had taken a step and throughout the
the course of the first twenty games or so, the
grind of the season, the day in and day out,
got lost on him a little bit. And I think
the reset, so to speak, was a chance to get
(28:28):
back to that training camp mindset, get back to just
playing hockey, and and when he stepped back in the lineup,
especially the first five or six games after that shut down,
it was clearly clearly he took the message and clearly
he got back to playing the way he did the
way he came into training camp. And you know, there's
the grind of the season keeps going. And he's been
(28:51):
in and out, you know, in and out of that
grind with the season, with the break, with the holiday break,
we've had some sickness and injuries, and still in that grind.
But the last couple of games, I think you've seen
him play some of his best hockey and he's scored
some goal as a power play goal included in that
in the New Jersey game.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yep, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Dan Bosma with US coach of the Crack and Crack
and starting a five game road trip tomorrow at Columbus
three thirty pre game four o'clock face off right here
on ninety three to three kJ IRFM. And I'm glad
that you mentioned the power play because you've mentioned the
top that there's just some stuff that you'd like to
see the team do better at. And I mean, look,
I'm no, I'm no genius over here, but I would
think that consistency with your power play and on the
(29:30):
defensive side would be right there at the top.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I mean, am I am I unfair with that?
Speaker 6 (29:35):
No?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
The power play. Power play is a critical piece in
winning hockey games. Power play penalty kill, and it's a
game to game thing, your powers life. You can be
great one night win your hockey game and the next
night can go home for six and it's no good.
And so the consistency night in the night out from
(29:57):
the power play, consistency and providing really just mojo for
the group. And when the power play provides that mojo
and power play has shot generated and power play gets
scoring chances, it just whether it scores the goal or not,
it adds. It adds, uh, it adds to how we
want to play five on five and that consistency, you know,
(30:19):
is something we're striving for in our five on five
game and in the power play.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Dan, I'm just curious just to follow up on that
in the powerplay situation, because you know, just in an
effort to get people to understand kind of what you
guys are doing over there, like for example, you know,
basketball wise, you get your defensive guys, you're shooting guys.
As far as coaches, baseball infield coaches, hitting coaches, as
you know, your football. Same thing when it comes to
your power play, Who's who's running that? It was reported
(30:45):
it was Bob and then and then Jessica maybe took over.
So who's who's the main coach on your bench responsible
for the power play?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Jessica is the I would say, the main coach for
the power play Bob and Bob and Jess of those
responsibilities they are implementing and working with the players together.
They're doing it together, and you know it is it
is a lot like us a specialty coach. But our practices,
our meetings are our intent, our messaging has come from
(31:17):
Jess and Bob, and you know, I think, I think
again the power play is it's it's always a focal
point and it's always can it always can be better.
You can be at twenty five percent and it's all
about the next game. It doesn't the power play. The
percentage is what we look at, but it's it's always
about the next game. It's always about the next opportunity,
(31:39):
because again it's so critical to the importance of it's
a huge part of winning hockey games. And so it's
not you know, it's easy to look at the percentage
of say good, bad or and different. But the power
player gets the opportunity last game, one opportunity in the
in the game we're down to one and they come
out in the third period, get us that goal, get
(31:59):
us a chance to win that hockey game.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Coach eight games in now with with Coppo, and he's
given you four assists in the last four games.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Talk about what he's brought you, guys.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Continued continued improvement in his game. I think you know,
the made the made the trade and and the New
York getting a he's not young anymore, but a second
overall pick that's still developing in his career and looking
for a bigger role in a bigger spot. And you know,
(32:29):
I I give him a pass. On the first game
in Chicago, got in at one point thirty at night
and stepped on the ice the next day without a
practice and played and uh, but since then, pretty much
every game we've seen, and it's it's growing with Matty
Veneer's and Jayden Schwartz and his line. But a guy
(32:50):
who can be a big bodied winger, skateswell, can make plays,
hold out of the pocket, as a presence at the net.
It's it's. Uh, some of the continuity in the in
the line has been they thank you. They've been our
best line, you know, for probably the last five or
six games. And you've seen it in the two passes
that he made for breakaways in the one game, and
(33:12):
you see it last game on the power play, and
he's a NetFront presence and where he's particularly good and
makes the play of shame right in for the goal.
But it's it's happening. It's it's great to see because
he's a big body guy something you know, I think
as a team we longed for a big body guy
(33:32):
who can have a presence on the inside and be
good at the net and be a physical you know,
physical presence, physical not just being hitting, but physical presence,
hard to get up the puck. And it's it's it's
great to see.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Hey, no place like the road, right, go out there,
kick their butt tomorrow and we'll.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Talk on Wednesday. Coach, besta luck and I appreciate.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
This man, all right, Thanks guys, you got it.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Dan Bisman with us every single Wednesday, three forty five
courtesy of Dick's Drive Ins. What do you say we
got a break and check him with petros Man holy
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