October 15, 2025 • 32 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain look ahead to Game 3 of the ALCS for the Mariners against Toronto, talk about the biggest NFL stories with Mike Florio of PFT, then get a Fact or Fiction pick before listening and reacting to Fun with Audio clips.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where we go?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
Now here's Softy and Dick.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
All right, boys and girls, we are back at Jimmy's
on First, across the street from tea mobile. Mike Florio're
gonna join us a matter of minutes. We'll talk some football.
Bill Krueger coming up, Rick Riz coming up from across
the street. A team mobile park here from Dan Wilson.
Set the lineups for you as well. At four forty
five Kevin Harlan, five o'clock tonight.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
Lots to get to man.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
As we are just counting down the seconds now to
first pitch tonight, two hours and three minutes away from
Shane Bieber versus George Kirby. Somebody is either a going
up three to zero or somebody's closing the gap with
a chance to tie the series Tomorrow at Team Mobile
and I would very very very very much like that
team to be Seattle with a three to zero lead
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on Toronto tonight. And look, guys, I've been asked by
a lot of people today. I was on two different
radio shows, one in North Dakota and one in Minnesota,
two states that border each other.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
How big a game this is for Seattle? Is this
a must win?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Well, look technically if you want to get technical, not
a must win. In my world, this is an absolute
must win game tonight by Seattle. And there's a movie
out there, and I know Jackson likes when I make
random movie references called Cinderella Man with Russell Crowe about
a fighter named James Braddock. He's fighting Art Laski, and
his manager played by Paul Giamatti, looks at him and says,
(01:35):
I want you to bust his nose and fill his
face with blood.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Remember that.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yeah, That's what I want these guys to do tonight
to this baseball team.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Any hope they've got.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I want it to end any aspirations, they've got, any dreams,
they've got, any notions they've got dick of winning this series.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
I want to end it tonight their face is in
the dirt.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
It's time to step on their head and bury them tonight.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
You go out there like this is game seven.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
You go out there like you're the team that's down
two games tonight, and you bury these guys, and you
take a three to zero lead, and let's come back
tomorrow and try to wrap this thing up.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
You've got a demoralized fan base. You gotta demoralized baseball team.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
And you you.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
Heard from Anthony bay Rudy. He was in the paper today.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
He said, blue Jay fans are not coming down in droves.
Why because they think the series is over. Yeah, the
Blue Jay fans think the series is over. Now, we've
got to make sure that the Blue Jay players right
think the series is over. And if you win tonight,
I think you really do drive that stake right into
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their hearts. They are not gonna win four games in
a row, but they could win four of five against well.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I mean, guys, you could put them in a coma
tonight and there's no question about that, right. I Mean,
we all know the story about the four Red Sox
blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Right, We've all been there. We all know it's possible.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
No one's gonna sit here and say anything's over until
it's actually over.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
At least I'm not doing that.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You're not doing that, and Jackson, you're not doing that
because you know what, supers may not be real until
baseball and your team's in the ALCS and your two
games away from the World Series for the first time
in fifteen. There's no more superstition sport. Then they're superstitions.
Then those things actually exist. So I just look, I
feel like I feel like we've come this far, waited
this long. We can wait an extra twenty eight hours
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to proclaim this thing done. And I really hope tonight, guys,
that Dan Wilson allows George Kirby to go out and
just be George Kirby. I'm not saying he's got to
be Dave Roberts. I'm not saying he's got to be
The Dodgers, and they have a different philosophy with their
pitching staff. You saw what Yamamoto and Blake Snell did
in the first two games of that series. They are
more than willing when a guy's got ninety five pitches
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under his belt to go out there and let him
finish the game. I don't think these guys would be
willing to do that, by the way, But I think
the number one guy that you're looking at to say
you go be the hero that you were born to
be is George freaking Kirby. And if he does what
he's done the first two games of this of this postseason,
so they're.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Gonna win it, that's enough. There's no question about that.
And when you look at the flip side and Shane Bieber,
Shane Bieber, this is not the Shane Bieber that has
a career five thirty eight ops against the Mariners. The
Mariners hitters have struggled against Shane Bieber, but a vast
majority of those at bats came when Shane Bieber was
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a cy Young Award contender. Shane Bieber has not done
much of all. In fact, he has started nine games
total in the last two seasons in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Due to injury.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Well, the one guy that hits him the most shockingly
is Hore Palaco, who's got a you know too, seventy
six batting average off this guy. So not great numbers,
but we'll see. We'll address the Bieber thing in a
little bit. But let's get to Mike Florio Talks some
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Speaker 8 (04:45):
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(05:06):
Here's Softy and Dick.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
All right, boys and girls back here at Jimmy's on
first getting ready for Game three of the ALCS. But
lots happening in the NFL, the king of all NFL media,
Pro Football Talk dot Com, the NFL at NBC, and
my good friend Michael Florio with us on the radio program.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
But Mike, how are you pal?
Speaker 9 (05:26):
Well? Well, well we meet again.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Hey, listen, I apologize for last week. The game went long.
I thought we could fit you in.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
We didn't.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
It's my fault, and I apologize profusely for making you
hang last week.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Michael. It'll never happen again. How's that?
Speaker 9 (05:48):
You know?
Speaker 10 (05:48):
There's certain frustrations in this job. Sometimes you have player
only meetings and other players there either later they don't
show up at all.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Well, and we appreciate you. You're a professional.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yea, he is.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
Those guys are punks.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
He is a professor.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Well, let's talk about a guy that called out his
teammates the other day and then apologize for it to
a Turgo Biloa after the loss over the weekend, says
guys are late, they're not coming to meetings, they don't
give a damn.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
And then Today's says, oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Well, maybe that's exactly what Miami needed was to a
doing that last week. So tell me about the relationship
between Tua and Mike McDaniel and whose seat is hotter
in Miami, Tua or the coach.
Speaker 10 (06:29):
When I first heard the comments, I thought that possibly
Tua has tried to communicate directly with players and that
didn't work, so he opted to take it public. Aaron Rodgers,
I believe has done that in the past when young
receivers weren't doing what he thought young receivers needed to do.
But then McDaniel followed to a and clumsily tried to
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explain it away as direct communication. Well, it's not direct communication.
It's in direct communication through the media, and it creates
the problem. By the next day, McDaniel had seen and
heard what tu has said and he acknowledged.
Speaker 9 (07:03):
He shouldn't have done that. That wasn't the time for it.
Speaker 10 (07:05):
But today when Sua said what we fully expected him
to say, that he shouldn't have done it, and he
apologized for it. The question that has been obscured by
all of this, who was he talking about?
Speaker 9 (07:18):
We don't know who he was talking about.
Speaker 10 (07:19):
And one of the reporters very adroitly asked the question,
who are the leaders on the offensive side of.
Speaker 9 (07:25):
The ball, and he started rattling off names.
Speaker 10 (07:26):
So it's not those guys. So if you guys got
exempted indirectly from being responsible for not doing what they
need to do. But other than the guys he named,
any of them, some of them, maybe all of them
are the ones who aren't leading and clearly aren't following.
Speaker 9 (07:42):
So there's still an issue there. And answer the hot
seat question.
Speaker 10 (07:44):
I think Mike McDaniel was on a very hot.
Speaker 9 (07:47):
Seat right now.
Speaker 10 (07:48):
I'd say he's the most likely to be the next
to be fired. TUA contract is fully guaranteed through next year.
They really screwed this up. In twenty twenty four, they
ripped up this fifty year option of twenty three million
and change, and they gave him a three year contract
that pays out more than one hundred and fifty million,
fully guaranteed.
Speaker 9 (08:06):
They had no reason to do that.
Speaker 10 (08:07):
Let him play out the option, and if he plays
lights out, franchise tag and if he plays lights out,
tag him again, and all that combined is like one
hundred and ten million, not one hundred and fifty. And
they still would have had him for three years, and
they would have the ability to cut the cord whenever
they wanted to. They blew this, And I think it's
tom for Steven Ross to hit the reset button and
clear out everyone GM head coach and a new head coach.
Speaker 9 (08:29):
You know, he doesn't have to play to it. He
has to pay him.
Speaker 10 (08:32):
But I think by next year, week one, we're going
to see, or at least we should see new GM,
new coach, new quarterback across the board in Miami, and
they'll start over once again.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
So Mike Tomlin's very confused as to what Cleveland was
doing trading their starting quarterback to a division arrival. Does
he have a point or is he just kind of
trying to fire up his team by pumping up Joe
Flacco's tires before they face the Bengals tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (08:57):
Well, I think he'd rather face Jake Browning than Joe
Flacco regular season all time Joe Flacco and Mike Tomlin are.
I believe eleven and eleven and Flaco last year beats
the Steelers as the backup for the Colts, and Tomlin
admitted a few weeks ago that he told his players
Keith Anthony Richardson upright because they didn't want to see
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Joe Flacco, and it was in the context of the
Vikings starting Carson Wentz over JJ McCarthy. Tomlin would rather
face an inexperienced quarterback and look at what he's done
against young quarterbacks. His record against young quarterback is incredible.
So I think this is as simple as he'd rather
see Jake Browning and he doesn't agree with the way
the Browns do business. And look, the Browns made the
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decision as a matter of basic analytics. They were able
to upgrade a draft pick, they move on from a
player that they didn't want any longer. Who cares if
it goes to a division arrival. That's the way they.
Speaker 11 (09:46):
Look at it.
Speaker 10 (09:47):
Well, I know who cares. Mike Tomlin cares because now
he's got to face a better quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
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Speaker 5 (10:02):
And Mike, I may be dreaming.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
I may be imagining this, but I thought you came
out with your power rankings the other day and I
thought I saw the Hawks in the top ten in
your power rankings.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I believe you had them at number eight.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
And good for you, because they're a fumble away from
maybe being a five to one football team.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Right now, it.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Feels like the league is starting to take notice of
the Hawks and Sam Darnold man.
Speaker 10 (10:24):
And look, the NFC is very jumbled with a lot
of good teams. The AFC is jumbled with a lot
of teams that we don't know what they are. And
we want this as fans. We want parody, we want unpredictability,
We want as many teams to be alive as long
as possible to the season. But as somebody who from
time to tom is expected to know what the hell's
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going on.
Speaker 9 (10:46):
I don't like this confusion.
Speaker 10 (10:47):
I mean, there's been like a run of seven of
eight primetime games where.
Speaker 9 (10:50):
It's been an upset.
Speaker 10 (10:52):
So there's reason to watch tomorrow night because hell, maybe
the Bengals will beat the Steelers. Teams are more closely packed.
There is no truly great team. At five and one
are number one in the power rankings, and they are flawed.
The Colts at number two, arguably should be number one
because they're the only team that has dominated lesser opponents.
You've got other teams who are just barely skating by
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with teams that they should pummel. So it's packed together tight,
and it's going to result in injuries, bad calls.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
Which are good calls for the other team, and.
Speaker 10 (11:25):
Just weird bounces to the ball that will determine.
Speaker 9 (11:27):
Who gets into the playoffs and ultimately who advances the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
Well you're Tony, right, I mean I counted fifteen teams yesterday.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
I just looked at him. I tilt my head a
certain way. I could envision them making the super Bowl.
But speaking of the Super Bowl, Mike, every coach, quarterback
combo that has won at least one Super Bowl together
won their first super Bowl within the first five years
of being together. This is year eight for McDermott and
Josh Allen. Is Sean McDermott like just Doug Collins or
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Mark Jackson like good coaches that can get MJ and
Steph Curry a couple of rounds deep, but they need
a Phill Jackson or Steve Gerr to get a title.
Speaker 10 (12:03):
Well, there's a question in Buffalo that will fray a
lot of nerves within the building when it's raised.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
Is this a team.
Speaker 10 (12:11):
That is sufficiently talented but not effectively coached, or is
this a team that is being coached very well but.
Speaker 9 (12:19):
Just isn't very talented.
Speaker 10 (12:21):
You know, I was surprised the Bills weren't at the
front of the line to try to get Michael Parsons.
Speaker 9 (12:25):
I was very surprised.
Speaker 10 (12:26):
If you're trying to get over the hump, you got
to make some bold moves.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
And they've resisted.
Speaker 10 (12:30):
In twenty twenty one, Von.
Speaker 9 (12:31):
Miller was available, OBJ was available.
Speaker 10 (12:33):
The Rams got them both, and arguably they provided the
difference to winning a Super Bowl.
Speaker 9 (12:37):
The Bills weren't interested.
Speaker 10 (12:38):
At the time in either one, so you got to
be ready to make that move to get over the hump,
and whether it's talent, whether it's coaching. You wonder how
many more years into Josh Allen's career, ownership will tolerate
being just good enough. And there are teams out there
and I'll say we want on the super Bowl every
single year because they have to say that.
Speaker 9 (12:59):
For some on I think it's just good enough to
be just good enough.
Speaker 10 (13:04):
Because the money's the same whether you win the Super.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Bowl or not.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Well, Mike Florio's with us and Mike going back to
last Thursday's game with the Giants and Eagles, and you know,
the Jackson Dart thing looked good for him. He looks fine.
But what I was kind of taken aback by is
the reaction that people had to Russell Wilson entering the
game last Thursday, and not just the fans, but Dabell
could not wait to get his ass off the field,
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goes into the medical tent to try to get Jackson darts.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
That was no good.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Kirk krb Street on TV is even kind of like, man,
they got to get him out of there. I mean,
it's amazing, Mike, what's happened to Russell Wilson. It's like
he walked into the wrong bathroom and people were just
killing him on Thursday night in New York.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
How far has Russell Wilson fallen since he.
Speaker 10 (13:48):
Left Seattle, oh In that urgency by day Ball that
may result in a massive fine, possibly the loss of
a draft pick because day Ball entered the mouth of
the medical tent camp Scataboo actually went inside. Both are violations,
both are under investigation, and it was because, as Dave
All said after the game, we had a fourth down
coming up and if he was coming back in the game,
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I was going to go for it, which means there's
no way in hell I'm going for it.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
If the other guy is out there.
Speaker 10 (14:13):
But they saw just enough of Russell Wilson for the
first three weeks of the season to know that he
just doesn't have it anymore. And how emasculating and humiliating
for a very proud guy like Russell Wilson. I'm surprised
he hasn't demanded to be traded. I mean, if I'm
the Bengals, I make the play for him, not Joe Flacco.
But this is where we are and we'll see what
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the punishment is for the Giants. They got to get
Jackson dark to play a little more within himself, though
he did that launch on the sideline at one point
last Thursday night. You got to stay healthy. Your most
important attribute as a potential franchise quarterback is availability. You
can't be putting yourself at risk for a random yard
here or there.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
How about the sideline incident that happened last week. Your
take on the Jonathan gannon physical contact on Amri Mercado
and then the fine that he got subsequently, Was it warranted?
Speaker 10 (15:05):
I think it's absolutely warranted. There's the line you can't cross,
and I know it's a physical sport, but the coaches
aren't exerting physicality. They're on the sideline, and the way
he approached him, it was obvious from the angle that
was available, even though it was behind the Marcado and
a teammate who was consoling him, you could see contacts
being made and then there's a big kind of slap
on the arm again and walked away. It's just uncalled for,
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and kudos to the Cardinals for doing what they did.
I think the league would have done something, the Union
would have insisted on it if the Cardinals hadn't imposed
that fine. It's just the line you cannot cross. And
you know, it was fifty years ago this football season
that I.
Speaker 9 (15:42):
Was a ten year old playing fifth.
Speaker 10 (15:44):
Grade football at a grade school, Catholic grade school in
the town where I grew up.
Speaker 9 (15:49):
And back then, man, if you were.
Speaker 10 (15:50):
Standing around, you got the coaches foot up your ass, right,
and you got dragged around by your face mask. And
I mean I still remember stuff like that, and in
some ways it fuels me, and in some ways it
haunts me. But you just can't do that anymore to
any athlete, whatever the sport is, you can't lay hands
on people.
Speaker 9 (16:07):
And and Dannon probably knew that De.
Speaker 10 (16:09):
Marcado would take it, because if you mess with the
wrong guy, you're gonna get Latrell's free well, and you
just wonder going forward how that settles in in the
locker room and how the players view again, and after
he essentially bullied De Marcado.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
I really hope our friend PJ. Carlismo is not listening
right now.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
By the way, Hey Mike, you're the man, great stuff,
And we're talking a week see you, buddy.
Speaker 9 (16:31):
Unless you don't call. I mean, we'll talk in a
week afteris we're gonna think we need to do that.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
From now on, we're.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Gonna callee Mike Florio with us. We're gonna break all right.
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Speaker 5 (16:44):
Now here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Jackson Felts typically will make the pick today and he's been,
let's face it, sucking ass. I have a theory on
why he should keep going, and I wanna share it with
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Speaker 3 (16:56):
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Speaker 5 (17:00):
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Speaker 3 (17:15):
No, here's Sady and Dick.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
You know we need by the way, here, Dick, we
need that. You need a drink too. By the way,
we need one of those big on air signs. Those
big neon signs is what we need over here. I
would just assume that when people walk up and see
us talking into a microphone that they know we're on
the radio.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
But that doesn't really just register with people.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
No, but a lot of time to be fair to them,
A lot of time.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
We're sitting here listening to like Mike Florio talk Grip,
so it doesn't look like we're on the radio, and
I would.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Just say, stop bothering us, all right, we're big time,
leave us alone. Maybe that's what the sign should say. No,
how exactly, that's a great idea. Let's get a neon
sign that says stop bothering us.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Well, here we go.
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Speaker 5 (18:03):
We're gonna let Jackson make the pick.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
And here's why, boy, because we're up two games to
none of the alcs just in a good mood, right, So.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Because everything we've been doing is working.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
We just got them saying that there's no sport like
baseball where superstitions exist more.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
But I'm not good. I'm not missing with this. I
don't give a damn.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
But guys, I didn't make a pick last week.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Don't care, you don't care.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
I don't care if Jackson goes oh to twenty all right,
we are not changing anything, all right, there's no reason
to change anything. Never mind the fact that the ten
AM to seven PM producers Jessamin Kidd and Jackson are
two and nineteen combined on the air.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
You're throwing Ashley, there's six and twenty five.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
The producers are having a bad year, by the way,
But Jackson, I just think as long as they keep
rolling across the street, you keep rolling, all right. And
you know what, here's the other part about this. What
what do Dick and I believe in a lot? Playing
the dip? You're rowing four.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
You're a dip you' I mean French.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
You're like a fifteen month pregnant gal man. You're a
Brett raid to pop?
Speaker 5 (18:58):
All right?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I sure hope you're right, So.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Scort that thing out and let's get a win, all right,
I mean, you are You are way over freaking dude, dude,
you are so overdue for a win. So we're gonna
let Jackson make the pick in about two minutes here
on Factor Fiction. I do want to go back to
what we talked about early with the pitching matchup tonight
with George Kirby and Shane Bieber in Game three, and Dick, look,
I mean, obviously you're correct that this is not the
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Cy Young one point eight era dominating the league Shane
Bieber that we saw five years in Cleveland. Correct, But
I think he is still very capable. This is a
guy who the Blue Jays traded for it the deadline,
and he was hurt.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
He was coming off Tommy John surgery.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Okay, his start on August the twenty second for Toronto
was his first start in sixteen months, going back to
April second of twenty twenty four, he had Tommy John
and he missed a year and a half. He's made
seven starts for the Blue Jays this year. This is
like the Bryce Miller math. Six of seven starts, three
earned runs, the last five of seven tour less for Toronto.
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So far, He's gone five less in every game he's
pitched this year, except for Game three of the Yankee series,
when he went two and two thirds, five hits, a
couple of runs, and like managers are prone to do, Schneider.
John Schneider not the gam of the Hawks, but the
manager of the Blue Jays said you're done, and he
pulled him after fifty four pitches. So here's what I
think tonight. I think, and this is kind of obvious stuff,
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but I want to harp on it. I think tonight's game,
almost more than any other, is important to get to
him in the first inning early in this game. Jump
on him, and they will yank him, and they will
go to a bullpen that I think is ripe to
be hammered by this Mariner offense.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
And even if they don't, I am fully confident that
when Shane Bieber and and uh George Kirby come out
of the game in about the sixth inning, let's say
they come out at about the same time, I think
the game will be.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Two to two to take a tie game right now, Essex,
that's my point. Give me two to two in the sixth,
then Mike bullpen against yours.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
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Dick is seven and four.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
I am seven to five because the Bills suck and
have lost two in a row. Jackson felt zero to
four on the year. It is time for the wind
to blow in a different direction and just like the
Mariners make some history getting the win column, Jackson, I
have full faith in you tonight.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
No you don't, you know, Yes I do.
Speaker 12 (21:54):
It is funny because we talked about like everything's staying
the same and not changing.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Mad.
Speaker 12 (21:58):
Does that mean I need to intentionally lose this pick
to keep things the exact same as what's going on.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Have you been intentionally losing in the past?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
No, so should I try? I'll try to win again
and maybe I'll lose all right as well?
Speaker 13 (22:10):
Right?
Speaker 11 (22:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
One of the things we.
Speaker 12 (22:12):
Always look at is, and we've always talked about this,
the lowest over under you go under that the highest
over under you go over that we've always talked about
that being tried and true.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Yes.
Speaker 12 (22:22):
So with that said, the lowest over under this week
in the NFL is Miami Cleveland at thirty nine and
a half. I think that Cleveland's offense sucks under Dylan
Gabriel because Gabriel sucks. He's a duck, and ducks suck.
And I think that we saw what happens when they
face a good defense and the Steelers they only scored
nine points. Meanwhile, Miami's a mess to it and his
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teammates aren't even showing up the meetings.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
They're a disaster. So give me the.
Speaker 12 (22:48):
Under thirty nine and a half in the lowest over
under game this week in the NFL, Miami Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Where's the game at?
Speaker 12 (22:54):
By the way, the game is in Cleveland, in Cleveland, Okay.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
The only thing I'm worried about is Miami being a
little motivated after last week, and maybe two is saying, hey, guys,
I'm sorry, I have your back, I apologize, I'm a schmuck,
I'm a bad leader.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
I love you guys. Let's go kick their ass.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Outside of that, I love this, you know. I always
love the lowest thunder and the highest over. So I'm
rolling with you. Ride or die, right you and meat
of Valhalla. Whatever I got you under thirty nine and
a half is the pick.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
You like it, it's fact you hated. It's fiction to four, nine,
four or five one.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Right now, Miami is allowed thirty three, thirty three, thirty one,
twenty nine, twenty seven, and twenty one in their games
thus far. So that is that's about a twenty seven
point average, which means.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
That Miami can only score.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
Twelve right if they give up there every Now, the
Browns offense is not as good as some teams.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
They take worse than any of those teams I'm looking at.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Well, Carolina's offense isn't very good.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
And they scored twenty seven.
Speaker 12 (23:53):
Have we seen have you seen Rico Dado plays? He
looks like Smith out there.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
He does he does. Here's another reason why I would
give you.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
I will give you that the Cleveland's offense is the
worst that Miami has seen this year.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Here's another reason to like the under eighty five percent
chance of rain Cleveland on Sunday. Let's gonnais rain. It
could be a mudpile at that place. So we're gonna
go with the under thirty nine and a half. We
believe in Jackson for now, but if you lose again,
we may push you off a cliff. That's all right,
what the hell I mean? At some point the guy's
gonna win. For God's sakes, we're gonna keep rolling with him.
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Speaker 5 (24:45):
We're gonna break. We could do a little fun with audio.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
We could have somebody from across the street at Team
of a park A right. Depends on how hard Jessman
wants to work. We'll find out next segment. Bill Krueger
will join us at four. Rick riz will join us
at four twenty eight as we can, you to count
down to guys, Let's face it, man, I don't want
to just be prone to hyperbole. But if the Mariners
win this game tonight, this would be the biggest win
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in Mariner history to get to three to zero.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
I've never done that in a game away from the
World Series.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
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Speaker 3 (25:18):
It's now time for Sufday in Dick's Fun with Audio.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy, mister Daropolo.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Now let's have some fun with audio.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Hi, boys and girls, We're back from Jimmy's on First
getting ready for Game three of the American League Championship Series.
We are about an hour and fifteen away from first
pitch between George Kirby and Shane Bieber.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
So no better time to do a little fun with
Oscar right now? That's right? Why not? Let's get to it. Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that? David?
Speaker 11 (25:47):
What's that?
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Dick?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
On Monday's Craig Carton Show, the WFA and radio host
suggested that Toronto Blue Jays may have been cheating in
the alds against the Yankees, since they blasted New York's
pitchers but failed against Bryce Miller and Game one of
the ALCS against Seattle.
Speaker 14 (26:02):
Toronto suddenly forgot how to hit a baseball, which makes
me think they're probably cheating against the New York Yankees.
I was stealing the Yankee signs, and I'll go to
my grave believing that no credit they know because the
dude started for Seattle last night was a journeyman. No
name their fourth or fifth best pitcher. He was not
one of their main guys at Toronto outside of the
(26:25):
Springer leadoff home run.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Didn't hit the ball last night.
Speaker 14 (26:28):
And I'm saying to myself, wait a minute, Toronto can't.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Hit the ball against this tool.
Speaker 14 (26:33):
But when Max fried is on the mound, he couldn't
get out of the third inning. I G Yeah, made
me start thinking maybe we have another Houston Astros scandal
on our hands with those rascals with Toronto.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
All right, First of all, I actually like Craig cart
and I think he's really good at what he does.
But he's very much prone to hyperbole. If you ever
listened to w f An, that's just the way he is.
So I don't even know if he believes everything dick
that came out of his pie hole, but I would
just say this, I don't know what your definition guys,
is of a journeyman, Yeah, but a guy that has
pitched seventy four games for the same team and never
played for anybody else, that's not a journeyman. Because Bryce
(27:10):
Miller has played for one team in his career. And then,
second of all, he did have a three point seventy
four e er last year and thirty one starts, so
he's been banged up obviously this year.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
We know about all that, But I don't even.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Know if that guy believes what came out of his
pie hole, because there's nothing journeyman at all about Bryce Miller.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Nothing.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
He actually had a two point nine last year, which
was good for ninth in the major leagues. So if
that's a tool, right, then I don't know what a
good pitcher looks.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Well, listen, I get I get the fact that is
whatever he's calling him a tool, that's fine.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
But Jerneyman, he's acting like he's thirty five years old.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
He's acting like he's Russell Westbrook Big League Baseball.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Craig.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Come on, dude, I love you, bro, but it just
puked all over your pants with that take all Right, Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
What's that Dick.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
On the MLB on Fox postgame show Monday, Derek Chita
sharing how impressed he's been with Jorge Polanco throughout the playoffs.
Speaker 15 (28:05):
In the Division series, he had two huge home runs
against Trek Scoogle, then he had the game winning RBI
and the fifteenth thinning to send the Seattle mirrors to
the Alcs. You know, when you come into two series
like this, big stars. Hey, there's what everyone, all of
us talk about, and usually it's somebody that you may
not expect or you may not have spent as much
(28:27):
time talking about that comes up with the big moments.
And he's the one for the Seattle Mariners that is
playing a huge part in their success.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
You know.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
One of the cool things about these runs, and we
noticed it with the Seahawks did their run back in
thirteen to fourteen, is that everybody's talking about us. Man.
I love the fact that our guys are getting talked
about and the Hori Polanco thing. Look, I'll say it
on the air, I said it on Twitter. I apologize
to Jerry Depoto. He was right.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
I was wrong about Polanco.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I mean, well too, where would these guys be without
Jorge Polanco? It's been an unbelievable signing, one of the
best of the season in Major League Baseball. And this
is the stuff. If you have to have Dick you
know this happened to you. If you're gonna make a run,
you need to have guys that have career years Cal
Rowley for example. You need to make great acquisitions at
the deadline. Josh Naylor for example, he Hano Suarez, fine,
(29:13):
say him too. And you gotta get a little bit
lucky over the offseason. And they got lucky with Horay Polackos.
So these are the kinds of things that you need
to have go your way. If you make a World
Series and maybe even.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Win well, you need to have guys that aren't your first, second,
or third best hitters just step up in clutch moments.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
I keep thinking about David Freeze.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Remember David Freeze for r MVP right his jersey torn
Randy Rose Rain and when he was in when he
was in Tampa Bay was the MVP of the series.
And is the kids say, man, Horny Bolonco's got that
dog in him. I mean there is not in at
bat that Horrorte Polanco is intimidated against. And he has
shown that over and over and over in these playoffs.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Do the kids really say that, by the way, yes,
they do do that. That dogs say that, they say
he's the bomb. No, no, I've got that dog that
he was the bomb like twenty years ago.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
All right, hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
All right, let's skip three because I want to play
that for Hu Milling for tomorrow. By the way, the
insight stuff you're going on, you're on a need to
know basis, and right now you don't need to know.
During a press conference yesterday, Rutgers head coach Greg Schiano
talked about his program's efforts with nil not doing what
they need to.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Do to win in the Big Ten.
Speaker 11 (30:21):
I'm not going to get into what we do have,
and we have not tried.
Speaker 13 (30:24):
All due respect to everybody who put forth their effort,
we have not tried it, not at not at a
division ie level, forget Big ten level. We have not
done it at the division one. Let's be clear on that.
The only people who have done it is the guy
you're standing there looking at, and that you can't do
it that way at this level. Now we have a
plan now we have a plan, So leave it at that.
(30:45):
I'm not going to get into specifics, but that is
so there is there has been no efforts of the
level that it takes to play in the Big ten.
I'm not saying that people haven't tried what it takes
to win in the Big ten. You can't even say
it's minusculey close, and that's it.
Speaker 11 (31:03):
That's the end of the conversation. They're not gonna be
a follow up. That's it. Will that determine the future? Yes?
Will it determine Saturday?
Speaker 6 (31:10):
No?
Speaker 11 (31:11):
No, that won't determine Saturday. Will it help the future? Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
I would have loved to have been at that press
conference because you know what I would have done. You'd
have followed I would have followed up this, you would
have I mean, first of all, it's not up to
you to decide if there's a follow up or not.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Number one. Number two.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
I love how he says there's been nothing done, there's
been no efforts, but some people are trying, like just
go all in, dude, like you put.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Your freaking foot in the water, just jump in.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
Well, he's saying, we're trying now just.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Start ripping people. I think he right.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
I think you had said is in the past there
has been no effort, but that has changed.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Now just start barbecuing people. Here's who we had f
this up, and now here's what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
And he says, no.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Details, get into details, get into details. What are you
doing now that will change this thing for you? So
I think that nil is a big deal, man. I
mean this is a kin do a general manager in
baseball saying, Hey, my owner's giving me twenty million to spend.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
What do you want from it.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
There are certain teams in college football that need to
be excommunicated when the Super Conference begins, and that's one
of them.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Vanderbilt.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Yeah, that's another one of them.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
I mean, there's a handful of SEC and Big twelve
and Big ten teams that need to be excommunicated when
we go to this best thirty two or best thirty
six or whatever.
Speaker 11 (32:19):
It's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Right, Well, let's do this. Break time. Jackson gonna break break.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Bill Krueger is gonna join Rick Riz at four to
thirty coming up as we continue life from Jimmy's on
first we are about an hour and ten away. First pitch,
George Kirby, Shane bieber Game three, AOCS Baby two wins away.
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Speaker 4 (00:25):
All right, boys and girls, we are back at Jimmy's
on First, across the street from tea mobile. Mike Florio're
gonna join us a matter of minutes. We'll talk some football.
Bill Krueger coming up, Rick Riz coming up from across
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Speaker 5 (00:40):
Lots to get to man.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
As we are just counting down the seconds now to
first pitch tonight, two hours and three minutes away from
Shane Bieber versus George Kirby. Somebody is either a going
up three to zero or somebody's closing the gap with
a chance to tie the series Tomorrow at Team Mobile
and I would very very very very much like that
team to be Seattle with a three to zero lead
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on Toronto tonight. And look, guys, I've been asked by
a lot of people today. I was on two different
radio shows, one in North Dakota and one in Minnesota,
two states that border each other.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
How big a game this is for Seattle? Is this
a must win?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Well, look technically if you want to get technical, not
a must win. In my world, this is an absolute
must win game tonight by Seattle. And there's a movie
out there, and I know Jackson likes when I make
random movie references called Cinderella Man with Russell Crowe about
a fighter named James Braddock. He's fighting Art Laski, and
his manager played by Paul Giamatti, looks at him and says,
(01:35):
I want you to bust his nose and fill his
face with blood.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Remember that.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yeah, That's what I want these guys to do tonight
to this baseball team.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Any hope they've got.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I want it to end any aspirations, they've got, any dreams,
they've got, any notions they've got dick of winning this series.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
I want to end it tonight their face is in
the dirt.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
It's time to step on their head and bury them tonight.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
You go out there like this is game seven.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
You go out there like you're the team that's down
two games tonight, and you bury these guys, and you
take a three to zero lead, and let's come back
tomorrow and try to wrap this thing up.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
You've got a demoralized fan base. You gotta demoralized baseball team.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
And you you.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
Heard from Anthony bay Rudy. He was in the paper today.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
He said, blue Jay fans are not coming down in droves.
Why because they think the series is over. Yeah, the
Blue Jay fans think the series is over. Now, we've
got to make sure that the Blue Jay players right
think the series is over. And if you win tonight,
I think you really do drive that stake right into
(02:38):
their hearts. They are not gonna win four games in
a row, but they could win four of five against well.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I mean, guys, you could put them in a coma
tonight and there's no question about that, right. I Mean,
we all know the story about the four Red Sox
blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Right, We've all been there. We all know it's possible.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
No one's gonna sit here and say anything's over until
it's actually over.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
At least I'm not doing that.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
You're not doing that, and Jackson, you're not doing that
because you know what, supers may not be real until
baseball and your team's in the ALCS and your two
games away from the World Series for the first time
in fifteen. There's no more superstition sport. Then they're superstitions.
Then those things actually exist. So I just look, I
feel like I feel like we've come this far, waited
this long. We can wait an extra twenty eight hours
(03:21):
to proclaim this thing done. And I really hope tonight, guys,
that Dan Wilson allows George Kirby to go out and
just be George Kirby. I'm not saying he's got to
be Dave Roberts. I'm not saying he's got to be
The Dodgers, and they have a different philosophy with their
pitching staff. You saw what Yamamoto and Blake Snell did
in the first two games of that series. They are
more than willing when a guy's got ninety five pitches
(03:42):
under his belt to go out there and let him
finish the game. I don't think these guys would be
willing to do that, by the way, But I think
the number one guy that you're looking at to say
you go be the hero that you were born to
be is George freaking Kirby. And if he does what
he's done the first two games of this of this postseason,
so they're.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Gonna win it, that's enough. There's no question about that.
And when you look at the flip side and Shane Bieber,
Shane Bieber, this is not the Shane Bieber that has
a career five thirty eight ops against the Mariners. The
Mariners hitters have struggled against Shane Bieber, but a vast
majority of those at bats came when Shane Bieber was
(04:20):
a cy Young Award contender. Shane Bieber has not done
much of all. In fact, he has started nine games
total in the last two seasons in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Due to injury.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Well, the one guy that hits him the most shockingly
is Hore Palaco, who's got a you know too, seventy
six batting average off this guy. So not great numbers,
but we'll see. We'll address the Bieber thing in a
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Speaker 4 (05:08):
All right, boys and girls back here at Jimmy's on
first getting ready for Game three of the ALCS. But
lots happening in the NFL, the king of all NFL media,
Pro Football Talk dot Com, the NFL at NBC, and
my good friend Michael Florio with us on the radio program.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
But Mike, how are you pal?
Speaker 9 (05:26):
Well? Well, well we meet again.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Hey, listen, I apologize for last week. The game went long.
I thought we could fit you in.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
We didn't.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
It's my fault, and I apologize profusely for making you
hang last week.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Michael. It'll never happen again. How's that?
Speaker 9 (05:48):
You know?
Speaker 10 (05:48):
There's certain frustrations in this job. Sometimes you have player
only meetings and other players there either later they don't
show up at all.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Well, and we appreciate you. You're a professional.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yea, he is.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
Those guys are punks.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
He is a professor.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Well, let's talk about a guy that called out his
teammates the other day and then apologize for it to
a Turgo Biloa after the loss over the weekend, says
guys are late, they're not coming to meetings, they don't
give a damn.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
And then Today's says, oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Well, maybe that's exactly what Miami needed was to a
doing that last week. So tell me about the relationship
between Tua and Mike McDaniel and whose seat is hotter
in Miami, Tua or the coach.
Speaker 10 (06:29):
When I first heard the comments, I thought that possibly
Tua has tried to communicate directly with players and that
didn't work, so he opted to take it public. Aaron Rodgers,
I believe has done that in the past when young
receivers weren't doing what he thought young receivers needed to do.
But then McDaniel followed to a and clumsily tried to
(06:50):
explain it away as direct communication. Well, it's not direct communication.
It's in direct communication through the media, and it creates
the problem. By the next day, McDaniel had seen and
heard what tu has said and he acknowledged.
Speaker 9 (07:03):
He shouldn't have done that. That wasn't the time for it.
Speaker 10 (07:05):
But today when Sua said what we fully expected him
to say, that he shouldn't have done it, and he
apologized for it. The question that has been obscured by
all of this, who was he talking about?
Speaker 9 (07:18):
We don't know who he was talking about.
Speaker 10 (07:19):
And one of the reporters very adroitly asked the question,
who are the leaders on the offensive side of.
Speaker 9 (07:25):
The ball, and he started rattling off names.
Speaker 10 (07:26):
So it's not those guys. So if you guys got
exempted indirectly from being responsible for not doing what they
need to do. But other than the guys he named,
any of them, some of them, maybe all of them
are the ones who aren't leading and clearly aren't following.
Speaker 9 (07:42):
So there's still an issue there. And answer the hot
seat question.
Speaker 10 (07:44):
I think Mike McDaniel was on a very hot.
Speaker 9 (07:47):
Seat right now.
Speaker 10 (07:48):
I'd say he's the most likely to be the next
to be fired. TUA contract is fully guaranteed through next year.
They really screwed this up. In twenty twenty four, they
ripped up this fifty year option of twenty three million
and change, and they gave him a three year contract
that pays out more than one hundred and fifty million,
fully guaranteed.
Speaker 9 (08:06):
They had no reason to do that.
Speaker 10 (08:07):
Let him play out the option, and if he plays
lights out, franchise tag and if he plays lights out,
tag him again, and all that combined is like one
hundred and ten million, not one hundred and fifty. And
they still would have had him for three years, and
they would have the ability to cut the cord whenever
they wanted to. They blew this, And I think it's
tom for Steven Ross to hit the reset button and
clear out everyone GM head coach and a new head coach.
Speaker 9 (08:29):
You know, he doesn't have to play to it. He
has to pay him.
Speaker 10 (08:32):
But I think by next year, week one, we're going
to see, or at least we should see new GM,
new coach, new quarterback across the board in Miami, and
they'll start over once again.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
So Mike Tomlin's very confused as to what Cleveland was
doing trading their starting quarterback to a division arrival. Does
he have a point or is he just kind of
trying to fire up his team by pumping up Joe
Flacco's tires before they face the Bengals tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (08:57):
Well, I think he'd rather face Jake Browning than Joe
Flacco regular season all time Joe Flacco and Mike Tomlin are.
I believe eleven and eleven and Flaco last year beats
the Steelers as the backup for the Colts, and Tomlin
admitted a few weeks ago that he told his players
Keith Anthony Richardson upright because they didn't want to see
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Joe Flacco, and it was in the context of the
Vikings starting Carson Wentz over JJ McCarthy. Tomlin would rather
face an inexperienced quarterback and look at what he's done
against young quarterbacks. His record against young quarterback is incredible.
So I think this is as simple as he'd rather
see Jake Browning and he doesn't agree with the way
the Browns do business. And look, the Browns made the
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decision as a matter of basic analytics. They were able
to upgrade a draft pick, they move on from a
player that they didn't want any longer. Who cares if
it goes to a division arrival. That's the way they.
Speaker 11 (09:46):
Look at it.
Speaker 10 (09:47):
Well, I know who cares. Mike Tomlin cares because now
he's got to face a better quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
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Speaker 5 (10:02):
And Mike, I may be dreaming.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
I may be imagining this, but I thought you came
out with your power rankings the other day and I
thought I saw the Hawks in the top ten in
your power rankings.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I believe you had them at number eight.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
And good for you, because they're a fumble away from
maybe being a five to one football team.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Right now, it.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Feels like the league is starting to take notice of
the Hawks and Sam Darnold man.
Speaker 10 (10:24):
And look, the NFC is very jumbled with a lot
of good teams. The AFC is jumbled with a lot
of teams that we don't know what they are. And
we want this as fans. We want parody, we want unpredictability,
We want as many teams to be alive as long
as possible to the season. But as somebody who from
time to tom is expected to know what the hell's
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going on.
Speaker 9 (10:46):
I don't like this confusion.
Speaker 10 (10:47):
I mean, there's been like a run of seven of
eight primetime games where.
Speaker 9 (10:50):
It's been an upset.
Speaker 10 (10:52):
So there's reason to watch tomorrow night because hell, maybe
the Bengals will beat the Steelers. Teams are more closely packed.
There is no truly great team. At five and one
are number one in the power rankings, and they are flawed.
The Colts at number two, arguably should be number one
because they're the only team that has dominated lesser opponents.
You've got other teams who are just barely skating by
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with teams that they should pummel. So it's packed together tight,
and it's going to result in injuries, bad calls.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
Which are good calls for the other team, and.
Speaker 10 (11:25):
Just weird bounces to the ball that will determine.
Speaker 9 (11:27):
Who gets into the playoffs and ultimately who advances the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
Well you're Tony, right, I mean I counted fifteen teams yesterday.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
I just looked at him. I tilt my head a
certain way. I could envision them making the super Bowl.
But speaking of the Super Bowl, Mike, every coach, quarterback
combo that has won at least one Super Bowl together
won their first super Bowl within the first five years
of being together. This is year eight for McDermott and
Josh Allen. Is Sean McDermott like just Doug Collins or
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Mark Jackson like good coaches that can get MJ and
Steph Curry a couple of rounds deep, but they need
a Phill Jackson or Steve Gerr to get a title.
Speaker 10 (12:03):
Well, there's a question in Buffalo that will fray a
lot of nerves within the building when it's raised.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
Is this a team.
Speaker 10 (12:11):
That is sufficiently talented but not effectively coached, or is
this a team that is being coached very well but.
Speaker 9 (12:19):
Just isn't very talented.
Speaker 10 (12:21):
You know, I was surprised the Bills weren't at the
front of the line to try to get Michael Parsons.
Speaker 9 (12:25):
I was very surprised.
Speaker 10 (12:26):
If you're trying to get over the hump, you got
to make some bold moves.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
And they've resisted.
Speaker 10 (12:30):
In twenty twenty one, Von.
Speaker 9 (12:31):
Miller was available, OBJ was available.
Speaker 10 (12:33):
The Rams got them both, and arguably they provided the
difference to winning a Super Bowl.
Speaker 9 (12:37):
The Bills weren't interested.
Speaker 10 (12:38):
At the time in either one, so you got to
be ready to make that move to get over the hump,
and whether it's talent, whether it's coaching. You wonder how
many more years into Josh Allen's career, ownership will tolerate
being just good enough. And there are teams out there
and I'll say we want on the super Bowl every
single year because they have to say that.
Speaker 9 (12:59):
For some on I think it's just good enough to
be just good enough.
Speaker 10 (13:04):
Because the money's the same whether you win the Super.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Bowl or not.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Well, Mike Florio's with us and Mike going back to
last Thursday's game with the Giants and Eagles, and you know,
the Jackson Dart thing looked good for him. He looks fine.
But what I was kind of taken aback by is
the reaction that people had to Russell Wilson entering the
game last Thursday, and not just the fans, but Dabell
could not wait to get his ass off the field,
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goes into the medical tent to try to get Jackson darts.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
That was no good.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Kirk krb Street on TV is even kind of like, man,
they got to get him out of there. I mean,
it's amazing, Mike, what's happened to Russell Wilson. It's like
he walked into the wrong bathroom and people were just
killing him on Thursday night in New York.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
How far has Russell Wilson fallen since he.
Speaker 10 (13:48):
Left Seattle, oh In that urgency by day Ball that
may result in a massive fine, possibly the loss of
a draft pick because day Ball entered the mouth of
the medical tent camp Scataboo actually went inside. Both are violations,
both are under investigation, and it was because, as Dave
All said after the game, we had a fourth down
coming up and if he was coming back in the game,
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I was going to go for it, which means there's
no way in hell I'm going for it.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
If the other guy is out there.
Speaker 10 (14:13):
But they saw just enough of Russell Wilson for the
first three weeks of the season to know that he
just doesn't have it anymore. And how emasculating and humiliating
for a very proud guy like Russell Wilson. I'm surprised
he hasn't demanded to be traded. I mean, if I'm
the Bengals, I make the play for him, not Joe Flacco.
But this is where we are and we'll see what
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the punishment is for the Giants. They got to get
Jackson dark to play a little more within himself, though
he did that launch on the sideline at one point
last Thursday night. You got to stay healthy. Your most
important attribute as a potential franchise quarterback is availability. You
can't be putting yourself at risk for a random yard
here or there.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
How about the sideline incident that happened last week. Your
take on the Jonathan gannon physical contact on Amri Mercado
and then the fine that he got subsequently, Was it warranted?
Speaker 10 (15:05):
I think it's absolutely warranted. There's the line you can't cross,
and I know it's a physical sport, but the coaches
aren't exerting physicality. They're on the sideline, and the way
he approached him, it was obvious from the angle that
was available, even though it was behind the Marcado and
a teammate who was consoling him, you could see contacts
being made and then there's a big kind of slap
on the arm again and walked away. It's just uncalled for,
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and kudos to the Cardinals for doing what they did.
I think the league would have done something, the Union
would have insisted on it if the Cardinals hadn't imposed
that fine. It's just the line you cannot cross. And
you know, it was fifty years ago this football season
that I.
Speaker 9 (15:42):
Was a ten year old playing fifth.
Speaker 10 (15:44):
Grade football at a grade school, Catholic grade school in
the town where I grew up.
Speaker 9 (15:49):
And back then, man, if you were.
Speaker 10 (15:50):
Standing around, you got the coaches foot up your ass, right,
and you got dragged around by your face mask. And
I mean I still remember stuff like that, and in
some ways it fuels me, and in some ways it
haunts me. But you just can't do that anymore to
any athlete, whatever the sport is, you can't lay hands
on people.
Speaker 9 (16:07):
And and Dannon probably knew that De.
Speaker 10 (16:09):
Marcado would take it, because if you mess with the
wrong guy, you're gonna get Latrell's free well, and you
just wonder going forward how that settles in in the
locker room and how the players view again, and after
he essentially bullied De Marcado.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
I really hope our friend PJ. Carlismo is not listening
right now.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
By the way, Hey Mike, you're the man, great stuff,
And we're talking a week see you, buddy.
Speaker 9 (16:31):
Unless you don't call. I mean, we'll talk in a
week afteris we're gonna think we need to do that.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
From now on, we're.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
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Speaker 5 (16:44):
Now here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Jackson Felts typically will make the pick today and he's been,
let's face it, sucking ass. I have a theory on
why he should keep going, and I wanna share it with
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Speaker 4 (17:17):
You know we need by the way, here, Dick, we
need that. You need a drink too. By the way,
we need one of those big on air signs. Those
big neon signs is what we need over here. I
would just assume that when people walk up and see
us talking into a microphone that they know we're on
the radio.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
But that doesn't really just register with people.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
No, but a lot of time to be fair to them,
A lot of time.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
We're sitting here listening to like Mike Florio talk Grip,
so it doesn't look like we're on the radio, and
I would.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Just say, stop bothering us, all right, we're big time,
leave us alone. Maybe that's what the sign should say. No,
how exactly, that's a great idea. Let's get a neon
sign that says stop bothering us.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Well, here we go.
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Speaker 5 (18:03):
We're gonna let Jackson make the pick.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
And here's why, boy, because we're up two games to
none of the alcs just in a good mood, right, So.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Because everything we've been doing is working.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
We just got them saying that there's no sport like
baseball where superstitions exist more.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
But I'm not good. I'm not missing with this. I
don't give a damn.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
But guys, I didn't make a pick last week.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Don't care, you don't care.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
I don't care if Jackson goes oh to twenty all right,
we are not changing anything, all right, there's no reason
to change anything. Never mind the fact that the ten
AM to seven PM producers Jessamin Kidd and Jackson are
two and nineteen combined on the air.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
You're throwing Ashley, there's six and twenty five.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
The producers are having a bad year, by the way,
But Jackson, I just think as long as they keep
rolling across the street, you keep rolling, all right. And
you know what, here's the other part about this. What
what do Dick and I believe in a lot? Playing
the dip? You're rowing four.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
You're a dip you' I mean French.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
You're like a fifteen month pregnant gal man. You're a
Brett raid to pop?
Speaker 5 (18:58):
All right?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I sure hope you're right, So.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Scort that thing out and let's get a win, all right,
I mean, you are You are way over freaking dude, dude,
you are so overdue for a win. So we're gonna
let Jackson make the pick in about two minutes here
on Factor Fiction. I do want to go back to
what we talked about early with the pitching matchup tonight
with George Kirby and Shane Bieber in Game three, and Dick, look,
I mean, obviously you're correct that this is not the
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Cy Young one point eight era dominating the league Shane
Bieber that we saw five years in Cleveland. Correct, But
I think he is still very capable. This is a
guy who the Blue Jays traded for it the deadline,
and he was hurt.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
He was coming off Tommy John surgery.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Okay, his start on August the twenty second for Toronto
was his first start in sixteen months, going back to
April second of twenty twenty four, he had Tommy John
and he missed a year and a half. He's made
seven starts for the Blue Jays this year. This is
like the Bryce Miller math. Six of seven starts, three
earned runs, the last five of seven tour less for Toronto.
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So far, He's gone five less in every game he's
pitched this year, except for Game three of the Yankee series,
when he went two and two thirds, five hits, a
couple of runs, and like managers are prone to do, Schneider.
John Schneider not the gam of the Hawks, but the
manager of the Blue Jays said you're done, and he
pulled him after fifty four pitches. So here's what I
think tonight. I think, and this is kind of obvious stuff,
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but I want to harp on it. I think tonight's game,
almost more than any other, is important to get to
him in the first inning early in this game. Jump
on him, and they will yank him, and they will
go to a bullpen that I think is ripe to
be hammered by this Mariner offense.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
And even if they don't, I am fully confident that
when Shane Bieber and and uh George Kirby come out
of the game in about the sixth inning, let's say
they come out at about the same time, I think
the game will be.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Two to two to take a tie game right now, Essex,
that's my point. Give me two to two in the sixth,
then Mike bullpen against yours.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Ever, let me sing a day against this. It doesn't
mean it all work, but you like your chances, right,
that's the point.
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Speaker 5 (21:34):
Dick is seven and four.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
I am seven to five because the Bills suck and
have lost two in a row. Jackson felt zero to
four on the year. It is time for the wind
to blow in a different direction and just like the
Mariners make some history getting the win column, Jackson, I
have full faith in you tonight.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
No you don't, you know, Yes I do.
Speaker 12 (21:54):
It is funny because we talked about like everything's staying
the same and not changing.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Mad.
Speaker 12 (21:58):
Does that mean I need to intentionally lose this pick
to keep things the exact same as what's going on.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Have you been intentionally losing in the past?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
No, so should I try? I'll try to win again
and maybe I'll lose all right as well?
Speaker 13 (22:10):
Right?
Speaker 11 (22:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
One of the things we.
Speaker 12 (22:12):
Always look at is, and we've always talked about this,
the lowest over under you go under that the highest
over under you go over that we've always talked about
that being tried and true.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Yes.
Speaker 12 (22:22):
So with that said, the lowest over under this week
in the NFL is Miami Cleveland at thirty nine and
a half. I think that Cleveland's offense sucks under Dylan
Gabriel because Gabriel sucks. He's a duck, and ducks suck.
And I think that we saw what happens when they
face a good defense and the Steelers they only scored
nine points. Meanwhile, Miami's a mess to it and his
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teammates aren't even showing up the meetings.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
They're a disaster. So give me the.
Speaker 12 (22:48):
Under thirty nine and a half in the lowest over
under game this week in the NFL, Miami Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Where's the game at?
Speaker 12 (22:54):
By the way, the game is in Cleveland, in Cleveland, Okay.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
The only thing I'm worried about is Miami being a
little motivated after last week, and maybe two is saying, hey, guys,
I'm sorry, I have your back, I apologize, I'm a schmuck,
I'm a bad leader.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
I love you guys. Let's go kick their ass.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Outside of that, I love this, you know. I always
love the lowest thunder and the highest over. So I'm
rolling with you. Ride or die, right you and meat
of Valhalla. Whatever I got you under thirty nine and
a half is the pick.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
You like it, it's fact you hated. It's fiction to four, nine,
four or five one.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Right now, Miami is allowed thirty three, thirty three, thirty one,
twenty nine, twenty seven, and twenty one in their games
thus far. So that is that's about a twenty seven
point average, which means.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
That Miami can only score.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
Twelve right if they give up there every Now, the
Browns offense is not as good as some teams.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
They take worse than any of those teams I'm looking at.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Well, Carolina's offense isn't very good.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
And they scored twenty seven.
Speaker 12 (23:53):
Have we seen have you seen Rico Dado plays? He
looks like Smith out there.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
He does he does. Here's another reason why I would
give you.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
I will give you that the Cleveland's offense is the
worst that Miami has seen this year.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Here's another reason to like the under eighty five percent
chance of rain Cleveland on Sunday. Let's gonnais rain. It
could be a mudpile at that place. So we're gonna
go with the under thirty nine and a half. We
believe in Jackson for now, but if you lose again,
we may push you off a cliff. That's all right,
what the hell I mean? At some point the guy's
gonna win. For God's sakes, we're gonna keep rolling with him.
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Speaker 5 (24:45):
We're gonna break. We could do a little fun with audio.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
We could have somebody from across the street at Team
of a park A right. Depends on how hard Jessman
wants to work. We'll find out next segment. Bill Krueger
will join us at four. Rick riz will join us
at four twenty eight as we can, you to count
down to guys, Let's face it, man, I don't want
to just be prone to hyperbole. But if the Mariners
win this game tonight, this would be the biggest win
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in Mariner history to get to three to zero.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
I've never done that in a game away from the
World Series.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
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Speaker 1 (25:21):
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy, mister Daropolo.
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Speaker 4 (25:27):
Hi, boys and girls, We're back from Jimmy's on First
getting ready for Game three of the American League Championship Series.
We are about an hour and fifteen away from first
pitch between George Kirby and Shane Bieber.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
So no better time to do a little fun with
Oscar right now? That's right? Why not? Let's get to it. Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that? David?
Speaker 11 (25:47):
What's that?
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Dick?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
On Monday's Craig Carton Show, the WFA and radio host
suggested that Toronto Blue Jays may have been cheating in
the alds against the Yankees, since they blasted New York's
pitchers but failed against Bryce Miller and Game one of
the ALCS against Seattle.
Speaker 14 (26:02):
Toronto suddenly forgot how to hit a baseball, which makes
me think they're probably cheating against the New York Yankees.
I was stealing the Yankee signs, and I'll go to
my grave believing that no credit they know because the
dude started for Seattle last night was a journeyman. No
name their fourth or fifth best pitcher. He was not
one of their main guys at Toronto outside of the
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Springer leadoff home run.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Didn't hit the ball last night.
Speaker 14 (26:28):
And I'm saying to myself, wait a minute, Toronto can't.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Hit the ball against this tool.
Speaker 14 (26:33):
But when Max fried is on the mound, he couldn't
get out of the third inning. I G Yeah, made
me start thinking maybe we have another Houston Astros scandal
on our hands with those rascals with Toronto.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
All right, First of all, I actually like Craig cart
and I think he's really good at what he does.
But he's very much prone to hyperbole. If you ever
listened to w f An, that's just the way he is.
So I don't even know if he believes everything dick
that came out of his pie hole, but I would
just say this, I don't know what your definition guys,
is of a journeyman, Yeah, but a guy that has
pitched seventy four games for the same team and never
played for anybody else, that's not a journeyman. Because Bryce
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Miller has played for one team in his career. And then,
second of all, he did have a three point seventy
four e er last year and thirty one starts, so
he's been banged up obviously this year.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
We know about all that, But I don't even.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Know if that guy believes what came out of his
pie hole, because there's nothing journeyman at all about Bryce Miller.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Nothing.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
He actually had a two point nine last year, which
was good for ninth in the major leagues. So if
that's a tool, right, then I don't know what a
good pitcher looks.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Well, listen, I get I get the fact that is
whatever he's calling him a tool, that's fine.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
But Jerneyman, he's acting like he's thirty five years old.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
He's acting like he's Russell Westbrook Big League Baseball.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Craig.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Come on, dude, I love you, bro, but it just
puked all over your pants with that take all Right, Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
What's that Dick.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
On the MLB on Fox postgame show Monday, Derek Chita
sharing how impressed he's been with Jorge Polanco throughout the playoffs.
Speaker 15 (28:05):
In the Division series, he had two huge home runs
against Trek Scoogle, then he had the game winning RBI
and the fifteenth thinning to send the Seattle mirrors to
the Alcs. You know, when you come into two series
like this, big stars. Hey, there's what everyone, all of
us talk about, and usually it's somebody that you may
not expect or you may not have spent as much
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time talking about that comes up with the big moments.
And he's the one for the Seattle Mariners that is
playing a huge part in their success.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
You know.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
One of the cool things about these runs, and we
noticed it with the Seahawks did their run back in
thirteen to fourteen, is that everybody's talking about us. Man.
I love the fact that our guys are getting talked
about and the Hori Polanco thing. Look, I'll say it
on the air, I said it on Twitter. I apologize
to Jerry Depoto. He was right.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
I was wrong about Polanco.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I mean, well too, where would these guys be without
Jorge Polanco? It's been an unbelievable signing, one of the
best of the season in Major League Baseball. And this
is the stuff. If you have to have Dick you
know this happened to you. If you're gonna make a run,
you need to have guys that have career years Cal
Rowley for example. You need to make great acquisitions at
the deadline. Josh Naylor for example, he Hano Suarez, fine,
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say him too. And you gotta get a little bit
lucky over the offseason. And they got lucky with Horay Polackos.
So these are the kinds of things that you need
to have go your way. If you make a World
Series and maybe even.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Win well, you need to have guys that aren't your first, second,
or third best hitters just step up in clutch moments.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
I keep thinking about David Freeze.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Remember David Freeze for r MVP right his jersey torn
Randy Rose Rain and when he was in when he
was in Tampa Bay was the MVP of the series.
And is the kids say, man, Horny Bolonco's got that
dog in him. I mean there is not in at
bat that Horrorte Polanco is intimidated against. And he has
shown that over and over and over in these playoffs.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Do the kids really say that, by the way, yes,
they do do that. That dogs say that, they say
he's the bomb. No, no, I've got that dog that
he was the bomb like twenty years ago.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
All right, hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
All right, let's skip three because I want to play
that for Hu Milling for tomorrow. By the way, the
insight stuff you're going on, you're on a need to
know basis, and right now you don't need to know.
During a press conference yesterday, Rutgers head coach Greg Schiano
talked about his program's efforts with nil not doing what
they need to.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Do to win in the Big Ten.
Speaker 11 (30:21):
I'm not going to get into what we do have,
and we have not tried.
Speaker 13 (30:24):
All due respect to everybody who put forth their effort,
we have not tried it, not at not at a
division ie level, forget Big ten level. We have not
done it at the division one. Let's be clear on that.
The only people who have done it is the guy
you're standing there looking at, and that you can't do
it that way at this level. Now we have a
plan now we have a plan, So leave it at that.
(30:45):
I'm not going to get into specifics, but that is
so there is there has been no efforts of the
level that it takes to play in the Big ten.
I'm not saying that people haven't tried what it takes
to win in the Big ten. You can't even say
it's minusculey close, and that's it.
Speaker 11 (31:03):
That's the end of the conversation. They're not gonna be
a follow up. That's it. Will that determine the future? Yes?
Will it determine Saturday?
Speaker 6 (31:10):
No?
Speaker 11 (31:11):
No, that won't determine Saturday. Will it help the future? Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
I would have loved to have been at that press
conference because you know what I would have done. You'd
have followed I would have followed up this, you would
have I mean, first of all, it's not up to
you to decide if there's a follow up or not.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Number one. Number two.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
I love how he says there's been nothing done, there's
been no efforts, but some people are trying, like just
go all in, dude, like you put.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Your freaking foot in the water, just jump in.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
Well, he's saying, we're trying now just.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Start ripping people. I think he right.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
I think you had said is in the past there
has been no effort, but that has changed.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Now just start barbecuing people. Here's who we had f
this up, and now here's what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
And he says, no.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Details, get into details, get into details. What are you
doing now that will change this thing for you? So
I think that nil is a big deal, man. I
mean this is a kin do a general manager in
baseball saying, Hey, my owner's giving me twenty million to spend.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
What do you want from it.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
There are certain teams in college football that need to
be excommunicated when the Super Conference begins, and that's one
of them.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Vanderbilt.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Yeah, that's another one of them.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
I mean, there's a handful of SEC and Big twelve
and Big ten teams that need to be excommunicated when
we go to this best thirty two or best thirty
six or whatever.
Speaker 11 (32:19):
It's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Right, Well, let's do this. Break time. Jackson gonna break break.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Bill Krueger is gonna join Rick Riz at four to
thirty coming up as we continue life from Jimmy's on
first we are about an hour and ten away. First pitch,
George Kirby, Shane bieber Game three, AOCS Baby two wins away.
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