October 22, 2025 • 33 mins
In the fourth hour, Dave Softy Mahler is joined by Mario Bailey and Greg Lewis for The Husky Honks, as the guys diagnose what happened in UW’s loss in Michigan last week, discuss the running game issues plus look ahead to the home game versus Illinois next.
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a lot more and Greg and Mario I think a
lot of us were looking for a lot more out
of the Huskies on Saturday at Michigan, a game going
in that we thought maybe the Huskies just maybe would
have a chance to win a game in the Big
House for the first time since eighty four. Halftime, you're
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tied and then you come out and just lay a
complete egg offensively and in some ways defensively and half
number two, So why don't we just start there? And
Greg will start with you, man, what happened in that
second half, especially with our star quarterback by.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Men, Well, I would argue that it was from the
opening kickoff. It wasn't just a second half let down.
And you know, before the game, I had my concerns.
You know, the whole early morning two time zone thing
just didn't feel right. The injuries that we've had over
the last several weeks, with key people not coming back,
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I thought this might be a tough go and it
turned out to be. Just so I think, you know,
the slow starts and the offense not capitalizing on drives,
not being able to score touchdowns or points early on,
having mistakes that stalled drives, just something that continues to happen,
and we're not a great team. We're a pretty good team.
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And so when you add those factors, you know, the
guy can't play on the offensive line right now. You know,
the shuffling on defense, with whether guys are gonna red shirt,
are gonna be able to play every game or one game,
all of those things, and you throw in, you know,
the two time zones and the early morning stuff. I
think we're not good enough to overcome all of that.
And we are so reliant on our quarterback having good games.
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When he doesn't have a good game, we're in trouble.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Mario, how about you.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Greg's been talking a lot in the last few days
about the early start time, and I don't know. I mean,
there's I guess I get it. There's something about that
just kind of excuse. He rubs me the wrong way.
I mean, I'm not saying it's an excuse, but it
is what it is that this is now another Big
ten game where they've come out slow, another early start
time on the West Coast where they've come out slow.
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So how do you wrap your head around everything we
saw Saturday versus Michigan.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Men, I think that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
It's an excuse, really, don't care about the time zone thing.
I played on the team and we were to travel
five time zones and beat up anybody at any time,
So I don't believe in that. I looked at the
game again and I thought that At first, I thought
they had a great defensive excuse me, offensive game plan
for their young quarterback. But when I look at it,
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they had an even greater defensive game plan. They game
plan for demand. If you look at it last week
and him having five hundred and twenty total yards and
US only having two hundred and fifty total yards this game,
they made sure to make him a pocket passer. And
when they made him a pocket passer, we don't have
any dynamic receivers or weapons out there. Their dbs were
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all over our receivers. If you take away Denzel's one
long forty eight yard pass and then I think it
was a robot had a pass that got us in
field position.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Other than that, that was it. Their dbs were all
over us.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
They had a spy on demand for us to have
this dynamic office offense, and you have demand Williams, Jonah Coleman,
Denzel Boston for us to go out and have two
hundred and fifty yards and seven points. Give their defense
of coordinator credit and give all of their players some credit.
They came and dominated us really from beginning to end.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So when you have the best team in the country, Mario,
you could go play any place, anytime, anywhere, and all
of those things. So what you're doing is comparing this
team to the greatest team in all of college football.
My point is is that when you are not a
great football team, when you are the margin of errors
very close and very thin, those things matter. And because
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we are in that stage where we're not a fantastic
football team, where we're a decent football team, we're a
good football team, or whatever you want to call it,
then all of those things come into play. I think
you saw Michigan just last week go down to California
and play against USC and you can't always compare like
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for like, but this looked like a different football team
than they did when they were in California the week before.
Michigan has some talented players. They're young players, but young
players play better at home. Young players play better, you know,
when they're not traveling two timesgo. So my point is
is that because we're not a great football team, all
of those things come into play. We have to get
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off the fast starts. De mon Waves has to play
a good football game. We need our three starting offensive
lineman to be able to play in order to have
an opportunity to win. I think if you change all
of those variables with this young team, they have a
better chance of having success. So where we are right
now as a program is a team that has to
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have all things kind of lining up, and your good
players have to have good football games or you're going
to suffer losses like last week.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Right, guys, I want to go back to what Marios
said there about the defensive game plan for Michigan because
just as Mario's talking there, guys and doing a little
mathful number crunching here, and if you take away Denzel
Boston's forty eight yard pass play, Raydon Vines Bright had
won for thirty one. That's seventy nine yards on two plays.
The other thirty passes, the Huskies had one hundred and
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thirty passing yards on thirty passes. That's four point three
yards per attempt if you take out the top three passing.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Plays of the game. And I realized that passing numbers.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Will be skewed by one or two plays, which is
Jonah Coleman. They had one hundred and three yards passing
on twenty nine attempts.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
That's three point.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Six y five yards per pass attempt on the other
twenty nine pass plays. So what exactly did Michigan do
defensively to take that away? And did they Mario in
your mind and Greg, you can follow up if you want,
provide some kind of a blueprint that teams will use
against these guys.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
I don't know if they necessarily provided a blueprint because
everybody's not going to have the talent on their team
to do what they did to our guys. Just last Saturday.
They were all over our receivers. They were physical, and
they were stride for stride, step for step with them.
I thought we didn't have any playmakers. That forty eight
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yard pass was a toss up. It was just like
flyers up and Boston made that play. But they had
a game plan to be physical with our guys. We
have some young receivers and it's just what I said.
I don't know if we definitely have any dynamic receivers
and we don't have a deep threat and demand Williams
was forced to be a pocket passer, and I'm not
sure that that's what he is.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
I think when you consider everything that was happening in
our passing offense, soft the one thing that you cannot
discredit is the amount of pressure that Demon Williams ended
up being in over the course of the game. I
think Mario is one correct. He said it on Saturday
in the postgame show that our receivers were not getting open.
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So whether they played great coverage or physical coverage, there's
something you know that they have to you know, win
those battles, uh, in the past game. But also the
offensive line has to allow a quarterback to be comfortable
at some point.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Uh. And again we.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Saw this in the first half of the Maryland game.
There's been a couple of times the Mont Williams is
still in his first twelve games as a starter, so
I think there's still some times where he's not necessarily
dialed all the way in. You know, he's uh, you know,
had some some errant throws here and there. And I
just thought, for a lack of you know, a full explanation,
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DeMont Williams did not have a great game.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
He had some let some passes get away from him.
He's still learning, he's still growing and win and he's
not I think fully on his game and getting some
big runs and getting himself going and getting himself in
a groove. You know, it has a tendency to impact
his overall game, including his passing. And I thought, you
know that doubled with some pressures. You know, he just
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did not have a good football game, and so goes demand,
so goes as Husky team.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Well, and I mean, I guess, guys again, Husky Hawks,
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and no readers, no glasses, no contexts, plus never develop
a cataract. What I'm kind of hearing you, guys say,
maybe inadvertently, and maybe I'm just misinterpreting you, is that
they might be putting a little bit too much on
the plate of a red shirt freshman, because I'm looking
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at Jonah Coleman, who's what a fourth year senior.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
He's the veteran.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
He's supposed to be the bell cow, he's supposed to
be the guy that you can lean on whether you're
playing at night in the morning or nine o'clock at night, right,
that you should be able to run the ball. And
I'm looking at a guy in now four Big Ten
Conference games, Greg is averaging three point six yards per
carry uh and just over fifty yards a game. And
the four Big Ten games that they've played, those are
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not numbers that we thought we'd see out of Jonah Coleman.
So how much of that in your mind is game plan?
How much of that in your mind is the opponent?
And how much would be as you said earlier, Greg,
the offensive line just not being healthy.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah, I think it certainly, you know, could be a
lot of it. But here's the here's the red though.
As a coaching staff and as a team, you got
to find a way to get him on track.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
If it's you.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Know, leaning on the right side of the line maybe
where there aren't as many injuries, is it, you know,
continuing to go to him, the feeding him, even if
it doesn't look like in the beginning of the game
that he's having breakthrough or big runs. You got to
continue to feed the ball. You got to use some
you know, some game plan stuff. You got to find
the lineman that whether they're starters or second string or
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thirstring who's going to get give him an opportunity to
be successful. So I think, you know, over these next
few days, a few games, they really got to figure
out how to get Jonah Coleman untracked, how to get
him up to the four four and a half yards
for Carrie, how to get him into that one hundred
yard you know, rushing running to take some pressure off
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of them on I think that's what you're saying. I
agree with you one hundred percent. You need to take
some pressure off the Mont Williams and running game has
some talent there in the players. I just think we
got to get the line situated. You know, I'm hopeful
that you know, either Carver Willis, John Mills, some of
those guys can get back and we have to stick
with the run game in some fashion and make sure
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that we're taking some of that pressure off the month.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I mean, Mario, it's almost shocking right to look up
and see after four conference games Jonah Coleman be thirteenth
and the Big Ten in rushing yards.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Uh in Big Ten play.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
That's just a guy that was supposed to be maybe
a first team All Big Ten running back. If not
pushing you know, maybe first team All American for God's sake,
running back, and they're they're nowhere near that right now.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
So I mean if somebody were just, you know, to
come off of a you know, around the world cruise.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And miss the first you know what seven games or
so whatever it is, six games of the seven games,
sorry of the Husky football season, and said, what in
the world's Joah Coleman doing that low in the Big
Ten rushing totals?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
What would you say to them?
Speaker 6 (12:20):
I would say those first three games puts a target
on his back. So coming into Big Ten play, when
you're leading the nation and touchdowns, everybody's gonna know who
Jonah Coleman is. And I think that they know that
Demand Williams is the sophomore. So your game plan should
always be we're gonna stop number one and make number
two beat us. Last week they they let number two
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beat them, But this past weekend with Michigan, they were
they're gonna they had a game plan for Demand as well.
I think Jonah uh, everything that you said in the beginning,
like the line, affects him. The game planning, the coach
could do a better job. He got nineteen touches last week.
He should have no less than two twenty five. We
could keep going on the run a little longer than
we do, but teams are always gonna stop Jonah first
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and make demand Beacon.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
And Greg you look, I know you're talking about the
early start time, all that stuff. At some point they
got to figure this out, right, because this is life
in the Big Ten. It's this is not going to
stop being on the West Coast. You're going to play
a couple of games like this at least one right
likely every single season. And they've been an absolute disaster
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for the most part, at least in the first half
in those games that they played. Give the credit for
the Maryland game, they stepped on the gas and they
figured it out in the second half.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
But this is now.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Four Big Ten games, whether competition, whether travel, whatever, and
two of the four games obviously were at home where
the offensive scored twenty points combined in the first half.
They're averaging five points in the first half of every
Big Ten game that they play, So for whatever reason,
they're just taking too much time to get the offensive
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engine going, and to me, that's a that's a major problem.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Well, I think, yeah, you're conflating two things together, though,
I think the cross country and early travel, especially from
West Coast teams, I don't think anyone's figured that out.
I think the data will bear out that that's a
problem for everybody, not just the Huskies, but the slow start.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
But everybody's got to figure it out, including.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah, everybody. But maybe you you know what, Softie, maybe
there's no way to figure out. Maybe that's just going
to be a consequence of the money grab that is
college football. Now what you have to do. I know
it's you know, something that's going to be there, and
maybe no one ever figured it out other than the
teams were just way more talented than everybody else, like
Ohio State, Ohio, like Mario said about the nineteen ninety
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one Huskies. When you're that good, it doesn't matter. But
the early, the slow starting thing, I think is a
real issue home or away that they got to figure
out how do they get going? And really it comes
down to Softie. I think what I've seen is they've
moved the ball, they just get a false start or
a you know off you know, some kind of off
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side there's some critical penalty and or a bonehead play,
maybe a miskick even where they're hurting themselves. They're not
punching the ball in, they're not getting that score. But
I've seen them get the kick off on the twenty
drive down through the other team's thirty and then somehow
stall out. So they got to figure that out. Absolutely.
I'm not sure what's going on with this low start,
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but it seems like every time there's some kind of
big mistake by the Huskies. Not necessarily a great defense,
but the Huskies are shooting themselves in the foot. We
saw some penalties last year affect him for a while.
They seem to kind of get over at the second half,
but it seems like that that thing is back and
they got to figure that out.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Mario, you mentioned just going back and just watching the
game again at seven to seven at halftime, but you know,
I thought, I don't know what you feel, and Greg
what you feel about it as well.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
But in the first.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Half, man, I mean, Demon was dangerously close to turning
the ball over. In the first half, he had a
near pick set, as you guys saw on the first drive,
he hit a cornerback and the face on the fourth drive,
had a couple of balls tipped in the first half,
as well, and I just thought Mario looked totally off
in the first half offensively. So what's the message for
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Demon Williams Man, how do you get through to him
and clean that up and go back to the guy
that we saw in the in the Rutgers game.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
I think what Greg said earlier about this, he hadn't
even had twelve starts. I think this is just a
learning lesson. Like I said, I thought Michigan's defensive coordinator
had a great plan. Demon is gonna do nothing but
learn from this and get better. Like he had a
great game before. He just ups and down the roller
coaster of being in that position of quarterback. I think
he's gonna look at this film a lot and see
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what they did to him to see that what he
could do better on his reads, and he's gonna.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Have to have his receivers step up.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
But I don't think this is I just think this
is a little bump in the road for him.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah, I think the coaches have to take a look
at what they do when he has these great football games.
I think demand thrives off of turning his legs into
big plays, and when he has success there, I think
it kind of creates a kind of a confidence and
kind of a swagger for him. Softy, I think they
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have to be cognizant of the fact that they can't
just take turn him into a drop back passer, which
is what I felt like they tried to do at Michigan. Now,
Michigan had something to do with that, they had spies
for him and things like that. But I think some
of the design, not just the read zone, but add
that in there. I think some of the design off
tackle and even counterplays that they've run with him where
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he's had a big player two with his legs in
the beginning of the game, you know, some easy quick
throws when he gets kind of in a flow, in
a rhythm. Is when he's most successful, when he has
a successful play, whether it's a pass or run. So
I think they got to keep that in mind and
figure out how to get him some of those big
successful plays runner pass early in the game.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah, all right, Well at twenty four to seven loss
to Michigan on Satdaturday, Huskies, I.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
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about the defense, guys, we spent the first twenty minutes
of the radio show talking about the nept offense on
Saturday versus Michigan.
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We'll chat about the opponent in a matter of minutes here.
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homecomfort dot com. So I don't know if I would
have told you guys before the game that Michigan scores
twenty four, you would have said, Okay, I mean, that's
a manageable number, that's not crazy. Washington should have a
chance with twenty four. But what did we think of
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the way the defense played? Greg overall, and who's the
guy that you want to highlight from the game on Saturday?
Speaker 4 (19:50):
And I really don't have a whole lot of complaints
about the defense. There might have been a driver to
where we needed to get off the field that Michigan
was able to convert some third downs, But x Ray
Alexander showed up. He played a good game, five or
six tackles, made a big stop on the fourth down.
Will gave up seven points at the half. And if
you look in the second half, the turnovers is what
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gave Michigan short field. So I would say x Ray
and the defensive guys played good enough for the Huskies.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Gay, Yeah, Mario, Greg's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Third drive, you throw a pick to the sideline that
leads to an easy touchdown probably should have been a
pick six, to be honest with you. Next drive another pick,
you know, nine play, touchdown, drive, sack, fumble, a turnover
on downs, and then the very last driver or the
drive after that was a pick. So the offense really
did not do the defense any favors Mario in this
game on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
No, not at all.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
And it definitely was the three turnovers in the second
half the cost of defense, like Greg said, the short fields.
But defensively, I'm going to as McLoughlin. I just seen him,
Oh I call him all faithful. Now on the defense,
I just seen him flying around making plays and he's
the biggest playmaker on our defense.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Well and now, and now you're coming home and you
may not have Jacob Manu, right, I mean, I thought
he was flying around a little bit guys on on Saturday.
Clearly their best linebacker they've got, and it's not even
close right now. There's some young guys out there, but
Jacob Manu is the is the old veteran out there,
and he's only got one more game left to play
this season unless he gets some kind of a word
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from the NCAA on his red shirt status. So you've
got Illinois, Greg, You've got Wisconsin, You've got Purdue, UCLA, Oregon.
Are we just gonna sit on this guy until the
last game of the year against the Ducks?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
How do you handle his situation?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Well, this is crazy situation. You know, this is what
football's become, and it's strange. Would I would argue this,
do you think with Jacob Manu is the difference between
you beating Organ or not. I don't know if he is.
I really don't know that he's the difference between you
beating Oregon or not. So I might claim this week
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against Illinois, this is a football team that we talked
about as one of those four. If we're going to
get the nine wins that we got to get right,
And I think you have a better chance of beating
Illinois then you do Oregon. So maybe you played Jacob Manu.
Now he's you know, kind of in a rhythm, because
if you sit him out for four weeks or so
and he gets a little rusty and then you're going
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up against one of the top five teams in the country,
I don't know that he makes that much difference. So
I might play Jacob Minu this week because this might
be a week where he might actually be the difference
between a win or a loss.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, and Mario, the funny thing about Illinois, the last
time we saw them, they were getting drug by Ohio State.
They have a bye and then find themselves back in
the top twenty five after not even having played a game, right,
because of everything else that happened in college football, And look,
I mean the CFP playoff talk obviously should stop for now.
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I mean, you know, everything we talked about with the
CFP was yeah, well it was just all it was
all dependent on beating Michigan, right, and getting to six
and one and having people be a little bit excited
about what this team then could do in these next.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Four games, which are all very winnable.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I mean, you've got Illinois, You've got a bad Wisconsin team,
you got a bad Purdue team, and then you got Ucla.
I realize Ucla is playing better, but you know they're
They're not elite by any stretch of the imagination. So
I mean these next four games, Mario, I don't know
what you think, man but for me, losing any of
them would be a disappointment.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Yeah, of course, losing any of them is disappointment. But
I agree with Greg said about MANU playing against Illinois,
like I think this, of course is the most important
because I think they have the capability of beating us
at home. Their two losses are to Ohio State and Indiana,
which I believe are two top ten teams, So they
have a great team and we need as much AMMO
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as we can get for this game. And yes we're
playing at home, but we have started slow like the
past three weeks, so we need everything and we just
look at this game in front of us. I wouldn't
even think about the next four I'd be worried about
right now.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Well, and Greg, you mentioned it earlier, the offensive line
being banged up as a major problem right now, right
I mean, you're down to your third string left tackle
and Swane Fasolo, you're down to your second string left
guard and Pockey feedw And on top of that, you're
blocking tight ends. Guys like Quinton Moore are who knows
what their status is. I mean, he says he's fine,
and coaches said he was moving around after the game
on Saturday, put a tweet out saying he was okay.
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So I guess we'll see what happens with him on Saturday.
But you know, now you got Jet Fish talking about
playing some freshman tight ends and Austin Simmon and Baron Naoni,
who's the freshman from Westland, Oregon.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You know, both guys that may not be ready yet
to play.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
So I'm getting concerned about the injuries on the offensive
line and to the tight end group being kind of
an equalizer that maybe is going to be a problem
even in one of these next four games.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
It's been a problem in the last three games, So
you know, I think that goes without saying. You know,
my biggest concern coming into the twenty twenty five football season,
I said it from show number one, and that is
this team's depth. I don't know that this team has
the depth to get into your second and third teamers
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and win big ten football games when you get into
the heart of the season. I have not changed from
that stance, and so because of that, this is going
to be a you know, really dependent on who's playing
and more so who's not playing. The Washington Huskies have
built a team where you've gotten the starters in position
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that can help you win football games. But you know,
it's something different about building depth so that in the
throes of a real physical conference, when you lose guys,
do you have those backup guys. It was untested going
into the year. I would say it's tested now, and
I would say that we're getting about a C minus
on that test for our depth.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Mario, how about you?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I would you grade that entire offensive line and the
overall depth on the team right now?
Speaker 6 (25:51):
The overall depth is probably a D. But the offensive line,
I think they've done as good a job as they can.
But it's quickly being cleated. So we're down to a seat.
I don't know what coach is gonna do. I think
our offensive line coach is doing a wonderful job or
what he has, but you can't do anything if you
don't have the depth and you don't have bodies out there.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Well, and Marty, I'm glad that you brought that up,
because this is a This is a guy in Jetfish
who has been here now for a year and a half,
six and seven and year number one, five and two
so far in year number two, so he's eleven and
nine overall at you dub and people keep talking about
how you know Deman Williams needs a signature win at
you dubb. You know who else needs a signature win
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at you dub is Jetfish doesn't have one yet. Now,
obviously he may not have many opportunities the rest of
the way because you've only got one ranked team left
on your schedule, or excuse me, two ranked teams with Illinois.
But I'm not sure if Husky fans are gonna throw
a party because you beat Illinois for crying out loud.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
So every big game this team seems to play.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
From a name perspective, they either get blown out or
they find a way to lose it. So what is
our kind of a assessment Greg and Mario of jed
Fish after twenty games.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Let's get to that.
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your free estimate today, Illinois. The aligne I going to
be here on Saturday, number twenty three in the country
off say thirty four to sixteen lost two weeks ago.
Another team the Huskies are facing, guys coming off a bye,
had a nice win earlier this year over USC got
drilled by Indiana sixty three to ten, and here come
the A line. I who thought they'd be a pretty
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decent football team this year and maybe fighting for a
CFP spot. But speaking of fighting, jedfish twenty games in
eleven and nine as the head coach at you, how
do we assess this guy Mario will start with you
after a year and a half.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
I'm going to give him a C. I thought about
the B minus, but that was just being scared the
coaches listening. I'm giving him a C. I just feel
like last year we had some games that we should
have won and could have won, but I gave him
grace because of the big ton over that he had
and just having brand new guys and fitting them into
his system. The great can change depending on how we
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finished this out. As you said, we have two more
ranked opponents that were playing Illinoise in Oregon, but Wisconsin
perdue and you say we're supposed to beat them, so
he can change the grade if we.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Finish this season strong. But right now it's just a scene. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
I just I'm just going to give it an incomplete.
I think, you know, if you want to talk about grades,
it's like this is the second quarter of a school year, right,
you got time to get your grade better. I think
college football nowadays has become the win.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Now.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
You know, we're not accepting anything other than you know,
wins every week in championships, which is ultimately the goal.
But I still think that it takes some time to
come from nothing to get to something. And yes, I
would agree last year there's probably two more wins we
should have had, and the coaches contributed to that, but
I think young, inexperienced players also contribute to that. I
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think this year we still have an opportunity. If we
can win nine games this year, me that would give
us a B. And I think he's on the right track.
So you know, I'm just gonna stick with the incomplete
right now, I would. I do hope though, that this
team kind of figures out how to become a little
more disciplined, fewer penalties, which I think the coaches impact,
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get off the fastest starts, I think, and then established
some sort of offensive identity. Those are the things that
I think the coding staff needs to do by the
end of the year in order to get a passing grade.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I just guys, Greg, I would kind of tend to
agree with you. I think it's it's not a straight
line to the top. Obviously, there's gonna be you know,
two steps forward, one step back for for Jed, and
I thought Saturday was a step back for him. I mean,
they've played in their last seven Big Ten games, They've
scored seven points or less three times, and their last
seven Big Ten games. And for an offensive guy, you know,
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for a guy that prides himself on offense, I mean,
I mean, to me, that's not acceptable. I don't care
who you're playing, to be shut down like that offensively,
and that kind of guys to me, you know, feels
like the offense is a bit of a paper tiger.
I remember early in the year, you know, we were
all talking about, oh, the Huskies have scored eleven straight touchdowns,
blah blah blah blah, well against two against nobody, and
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then all of a sudden, the competition rams up and
this is, at best right now, a middle of the
pack offense, Mario, in the Big.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Ten, that's exactly what they are.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Like I said, We're looking at all those those first
few games and we have these offensive weapons, but who
are they actually playing. We've had a few games where
we've play some top tier teams and some top tier athletes,
and we look very average out there. So we're gonna
have to figure something out.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I think there's an old saying, and it sounds corny softy,
that football games are won at the line of scrimmage.
I think what we're seeing when you make the paper
tiger analogy is we're seeing a football team that has
some talented skill players, but they are not good enough
yet still on the offensive line, especially with the depth
and then that tight end role, you know, where he's
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a blocker of meat potatoes kind of guy. We're not
good enough in those you know, trench positions for those
flashy talent, skilled players to consistently do what they do
because they're hampered by, you know the fact that the
guys in the trenches aren't good enough just yet. So
I think a paper tiger is when you got those
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great weapons, but you're not able to deploy them consistently
because you don't have the foundation right.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Well, they're fifteenth in scoring offense in the Big ten
in conference games, so hopefully that number will get bumped
up a little bit this Saturday versus Illinois. But we'll
just wrap it up there. The ALIGNI coming to town
on Saturday. They're making the trip. They're the ones that are.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Dealing with the travel and.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
All that stuff going to the West Coast obviously, So
let's leave it with that. What do you want to
see Saturday? What do you want to see Saturday, Mario
that you did not see Saturday versus Michigan.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
What we haven't seen in the last three games is
a fast start by our offense, and with Greg just
talked about, I want to see some establish some type
of identity. And I also want to see Jonah Comb
and get the ball at least twenty kiddies.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah right, I would just you know, all the things
Mario said, so I won't repeat, but Altmeyer and quarterbacks
for Illinois can be dynamic. He's had some huge games,
well over three hundred yards. Get some damn pressure on
the quarterback this week. Let's make him uncomfortable, Husky Nation.
Let's rattle those guys defense. Let's get some real true pressure.
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Let's not just pressure. I've said before that I like
the pressure thing. But now get him on the ground,
hit him, knock him down, sack him, make him uncomfortable.
We got to make Altmeyer a regular player, not the
three hundred and fifty yr passing guy he's been in
their wins.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, thirteen sacks after seven games is not good enough.
All right, guys, good stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
We'll see a Saturday morning at eight thirty, kickoff at
twelve thirty UW Illinois.
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a lot more and Greg and Mario I think a
lot of us were looking for a lot more out
of the Huskies on Saturday at Michigan, a game going
in that we thought maybe the Huskies just maybe would
have a chance to win a game in the Big
House for the first time since eighty four. Halftime, you're
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tied and then you come out and just lay a
complete egg offensively and in some ways defensively and half
number two, So why don't we just start there? And
Greg will start with you, man, what happened in that
second half, especially with our star quarterback by.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Men, Well, I would argue that it was from the
opening kickoff. It wasn't just a second half let down.
And you know, before the game, I had my concerns.
You know, the whole early morning two time zone thing
just didn't feel right. The injuries that we've had over
the last several weeks, with key people not coming back,
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I thought this might be a tough go and it
turned out to be. Just so I think, you know,
the slow starts and the offense not capitalizing on drives,
not being able to score touchdowns or points early on,
having mistakes that stalled drives, just something that continues to happen,
and we're not a great team. We're a pretty good team.
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And so when you add those factors, you know, the
guy can't play on the offensive line right now. You know,
the shuffling on defense, with whether guys are gonna red shirt,
are gonna be able to play every game or one game,
all of those things, and you throw in, you know,
the two time zones and the early morning stuff. I
think we're not good enough to overcome all of that.
And we are so reliant on our quarterback having good games.
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When he doesn't have a good game, we're in trouble.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Mario, how about you.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Greg's been talking a lot in the last few days
about the early start time, and I don't know. I mean,
there's I guess I get it. There's something about that
just kind of excuse. He rubs me the wrong way.
I mean, I'm not saying it's an excuse, but it
is what it is that this is now another Big
ten game where they've come out slow, another early start
time on the West Coast where they've come out slow.
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So how do you wrap your head around everything we
saw Saturday versus Michigan.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Men, I think that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
It's an excuse, really, don't care about the time zone thing.
I played on the team and we were to travel
five time zones and beat up anybody at any time,
So I don't believe in that. I looked at the
game again and I thought that At first, I thought
they had a great defensive excuse me, offensive game plan
for their young quarterback. But when I look at it,
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they had an even greater defensive game plan. They game
plan for demand. If you look at it last week
and him having five hundred and twenty total yards and
US only having two hundred and fifty total yards this game,
they made sure to make him a pocket passer. And
when they made him a pocket passer, we don't have
any dynamic receivers or weapons out there. Their dbs were
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all over our receivers. If you take away Denzel's one
long forty eight yard pass and then I think it
was a robot had a pass that got us in
field position.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Other than that, that was it. Their dbs were all
over us.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
They had a spy on demand for us to have
this dynamic office offense, and you have demand Williams, Jonah Coleman,
Denzel Boston for us to go out and have two
hundred and fifty yards and seven points. Give their defense
of coordinator credit and give all of their players some credit.
They came and dominated us really from beginning to end.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So when you have the best team in the country, Mario,
you could go play any place, anytime, anywhere, and all
of those things. So what you're doing is comparing this
team to the greatest team in all of college football.
My point is is that when you are not a
great football team, when you are the margin of errors
very close and very thin, those things matter. And because
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we are in that stage where we're not a fantastic
football team, where we're a decent football team, we're a
good football team, or whatever you want to call it,
then all of those things come into play. I think
you saw Michigan just last week go down to California
and play against USC and you can't always compare like
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for like, but this looked like a different football team
than they did when they were in California the week before.
Michigan has some talented players. They're young players, but young
players play better at home. Young players play better, you know,
when they're not traveling two timesgo. So my point is
is that because we're not a great football team, all
of those things come into play. We have to get
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off the fast starts. De mon Waves has to play
a good football game. We need our three starting offensive
lineman to be able to play in order to have
an opportunity to win. I think if you change all
of those variables with this young team, they have a
better chance of having success. So where we are right
now as a program is a team that has to
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have all things kind of lining up, and your good
players have to have good football games or you're going
to suffer losses like last week.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Right, guys, I want to go back to what Marios
said there about the defensive game plan for Michigan because
just as Mario's talking there, guys and doing a little
mathful number crunching here, and if you take away Denzel
Boston's forty eight yard pass play, Raydon Vines Bright had
won for thirty one. That's seventy nine yards on two plays.
The other thirty passes, the Huskies had one hundred and
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thirty passing yards on thirty passes. That's four point three
yards per attempt if you take out the top three passing.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Plays of the game. And I realized that passing numbers.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Will be skewed by one or two plays, which is
Jonah Coleman. They had one hundred and three yards passing
on twenty nine attempts.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
That's three point.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Six y five yards per pass attempt on the other
twenty nine pass plays. So what exactly did Michigan do
defensively to take that away? And did they Mario in
your mind and Greg, you can follow up if you want,
provide some kind of a blueprint that teams will use
against these guys.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
I don't know if they necessarily provided a blueprint because
everybody's not going to have the talent on their team
to do what they did to our guys. Just last Saturday.
They were all over our receivers. They were physical, and
they were stride for stride, step for step with them.
I thought we didn't have any playmakers. That forty eight
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yard pass was a toss up. It was just like
flyers up and Boston made that play. But they had
a game plan to be physical with our guys. We
have some young receivers and it's just what I said.
I don't know if we definitely have any dynamic receivers
and we don't have a deep threat and demand Williams
was forced to be a pocket passer, and I'm not
sure that that's what he is.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
I think when you consider everything that was happening in
our passing offense, soft the one thing that you cannot
discredit is the amount of pressure that Demon Williams ended
up being in over the course of the game. I
think Mario is one correct. He said it on Saturday
in the postgame show that our receivers were not getting open.
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So whether they played great coverage or physical coverage, there's
something you know that they have to you know, win
those battles, uh, in the past game. But also the
offensive line has to allow a quarterback to be comfortable
at some point.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Uh. And again we.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Saw this in the first half of the Maryland game.
There's been a couple of times the Mont Williams is
still in his first twelve games as a starter, so
I think there's still some times where he's not necessarily
dialed all the way in. You know, he's uh, you know,
had some some errant throws here and there. And I
just thought, for a lack of you know, a full explanation,
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DeMont Williams did not have a great game.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
He had some let some passes get away from him.
He's still learning, he's still growing and win and he's
not I think fully on his game and getting some
big runs and getting himself going and getting himself in
a groove. You know, it has a tendency to impact
his overall game, including his passing. And I thought, you
know that doubled with some pressures. You know, he just
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did not have a good football game, and so goes demand,
so goes as Husky team.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Well, and I mean, I guess, guys again, Husky Hawks,
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a cataract. What I'm kind of hearing you, guys say,
maybe inadvertently, and maybe I'm just misinterpreting you, is that
they might be putting a little bit too much on
the plate of a red shirt freshman, because I'm looking
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at Jonah Coleman, who's what a fourth year senior.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
He's the veteran.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
He's supposed to be the bell cow, he's supposed to
be the guy that you can lean on whether you're
playing at night in the morning or nine o'clock at night, right,
that you should be able to run the ball. And
I'm looking at a guy in now four Big Ten
Conference games, Greg is averaging three point six yards per
carry uh and just over fifty yards a game. And
the four Big Ten games that they've played, those are
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not numbers that we thought we'd see out of Jonah Coleman.
So how much of that in your mind is game plan?
How much of that in your mind is the opponent?
And how much would be as you said earlier, Greg,
the offensive line just not being healthy.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah, I think it certainly, you know, could be a
lot of it. But here's the here's the red though.
As a coaching staff and as a team, you got
to find a way to get him on track.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
If it's you.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Know, leaning on the right side of the line maybe
where there aren't as many injuries, is it, you know,
continuing to go to him, the feeding him, even if
it doesn't look like in the beginning of the game
that he's having breakthrough or big runs. You got to
continue to feed the ball. You got to use some
you know, some game plan stuff. You got to find
the lineman that whether they're starters or second string or
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thirstring who's going to get give him an opportunity to
be successful. So I think, you know, over these next
few days, a few games, they really got to figure
out how to get Jonah Coleman untracked, how to get
him up to the four four and a half yards
for Carrie, how to get him into that one hundred
yard you know, rushing running to take some pressure off
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of them on I think that's what you're saying. I
agree with you one hundred percent. You need to take
some pressure off the Mont Williams and running game has
some talent there in the players. I just think we
got to get the line situated. You know, I'm hopeful
that you know, either Carver Willis, John Mills, some of
those guys can get back and we have to stick
with the run game in some fashion and make sure
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that we're taking some of that pressure off the month.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I mean, Mario, it's almost shocking right to look up
and see after four conference games Jonah Coleman be thirteenth
and the Big Ten in rushing yards.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Uh in Big Ten play.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
That's just a guy that was supposed to be maybe
a first team All Big Ten running back. If not
pushing you know, maybe first team All American for God's sake,
running back, and they're they're nowhere near that right now.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
So I mean if somebody were just, you know, to
come off of a you know, around the world cruise.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And miss the first you know what seven games or
so whatever it is, six games of the seven games,
sorry of the Husky football season, and said, what in
the world's Joah Coleman doing that low in the Big
Ten rushing totals?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
What would you say to them?
Speaker 6 (12:20):
I would say those first three games puts a target
on his back. So coming into Big Ten play, when
you're leading the nation and touchdowns, everybody's gonna know who
Jonah Coleman is. And I think that they know that
Demand Williams is the sophomore. So your game plan should
always be we're gonna stop number one and make number
two beat us. Last week they they let number two
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beat them, But this past weekend with Michigan, they were
they're gonna they had a game plan for Demand as well.
I think Jonah uh, everything that you said in the beginning,
like the line, affects him. The game planning, the coach
could do a better job. He got nineteen touches last week.
He should have no less than two twenty five. We
could keep going on the run a little longer than
we do, but teams are always gonna stop Jonah first
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and make demand Beacon.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
And Greg you look, I know you're talking about the
early start time, all that stuff. At some point they
got to figure this out, right, because this is life
in the Big Ten. It's this is not going to
stop being on the West Coast. You're going to play
a couple of games like this at least one right
likely every single season. And they've been an absolute disaster
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for the most part, at least in the first half
in those games that they played. Give the credit for
the Maryland game, they stepped on the gas and they
figured it out in the second half.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
But this is now.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Four Big Ten games, whether competition, whether travel, whatever, and
two of the four games obviously were at home where
the offensive scored twenty points combined in the first half.
They're averaging five points in the first half of every
Big Ten game that they play, So for whatever reason,
they're just taking too much time to get the offensive
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engine going, and to me, that's a that's a major problem.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Well, I think, yeah, you're conflating two things together, though,
I think the cross country and early travel, especially from
West Coast teams, I don't think anyone's figured that out.
I think the data will bear out that that's a
problem for everybody, not just the Huskies, but the slow start.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
But everybody's got to figure it out, including.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah, everybody. But maybe you you know what, Softie, maybe
there's no way to figure out. Maybe that's just going
to be a consequence of the money grab that is
college football. Now what you have to do. I know
it's you know, something that's going to be there, and
maybe no one ever figured it out other than the
teams were just way more talented than everybody else, like
Ohio State, Ohio, like Mario said about the nineteen ninety
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one Huskies. When you're that good, it doesn't matter. But
the early, the slow starting thing, I think is a
real issue home or away that they got to figure
out how do they get going? And really it comes
down to Softie. I think what I've seen is they've
moved the ball, they just get a false start or
a you know off you know, some kind of off
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side there's some critical penalty and or a bonehead play,
maybe a miskick even where they're hurting themselves. They're not
punching the ball in, they're not getting that score. But
I've seen them get the kick off on the twenty
drive down through the other team's thirty and then somehow
stall out. So they got to figure that out. Absolutely.
I'm not sure what's going on with this low start,
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but it seems like every time there's some kind of
big mistake by the Huskies. Not necessarily a great defense,
but the Huskies are shooting themselves in the foot. We
saw some penalties last year affect him for a while.
They seem to kind of get over at the second half,
but it seems like that that thing is back and
they got to figure that out.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Mario, you mentioned just going back and just watching the
game again at seven to seven at halftime, but you know,
I thought, I don't know what you feel, and Greg
what you feel about it as well.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
But in the first.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Half, man, I mean, Demon was dangerously close to turning
the ball over. In the first half, he had a
near pick set, as you guys saw on the first drive,
he hit a cornerback and the face on the fourth drive,
had a couple of balls tipped in the first half,
as well, and I just thought Mario looked totally off
in the first half offensively. So what's the message for
(16:14):
Demon Williams Man, how do you get through to him
and clean that up and go back to the guy
that we saw in the in the Rutgers game.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
I think what Greg said earlier about this, he hadn't
even had twelve starts. I think this is just a
learning lesson. Like I said, I thought Michigan's defensive coordinator
had a great plan. Demon is gonna do nothing but
learn from this and get better. Like he had a
great game before. He just ups and down the roller
coaster of being in that position of quarterback. I think
he's gonna look at this film a lot and see
(16:43):
what they did to him to see that what he
could do better on his reads, and he's gonna.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Have to have his receivers step up.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
But I don't think this is I just think this
is a little bump in the road for him.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah, I think the coaches have to take a look
at what they do when he has these great football games.
I think demand thrives off of turning his legs into
big plays, and when he has success there, I think
it kind of creates a kind of a confidence and
kind of a swagger for him. Softy, I think they
(17:16):
have to be cognizant of the fact that they can't
just take turn him into a drop back passer, which
is what I felt like they tried to do at Michigan. Now,
Michigan had something to do with that, they had spies
for him and things like that. But I think some
of the design, not just the read zone, but add
that in there. I think some of the design off
tackle and even counterplays that they've run with him where
(17:37):
he's had a big player two with his legs in
the beginning of the game, you know, some easy quick
throws when he gets kind of in a flow, in
a rhythm. Is when he's most successful, when he has
a successful play, whether it's a pass or run. So
I think they got to keep that in mind and
figure out how to get him some of those big
successful plays runner pass early in the game.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah, all right, Well at twenty four to seven loss
to Michigan on Satdaturday, Huskies, I.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
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about the defense, guys, we spent the first twenty minutes
of the radio show talking about the nept offense on
Saturday versus Michigan.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Let's go to the defensive siding.
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Speaker 3 (18:58):
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We'll chat about the opponent in a matter of minutes here.
But first of all, our defensive Player of the Game
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have told you guys before the game that Michigan scores
twenty four, you would have said, Okay, I mean, that's
a manageable number, that's not crazy. Washington should have a
chance with twenty four. But what did we think of
(19:44):
the way the defense played? Greg overall, and who's the
guy that you want to highlight from the game on Saturday?
Speaker 4 (19:50):
And I really don't have a whole lot of complaints
about the defense. There might have been a driver to
where we needed to get off the field that Michigan
was able to convert some third downs, But x Ray
Alexander showed up. He played a good game, five or
six tackles, made a big stop on the fourth down.
Will gave up seven points at the half. And if
you look in the second half, the turnovers is what
(20:11):
gave Michigan short field. So I would say x Ray
and the defensive guys played good enough for the Huskies.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Gay, Yeah, Mario, Greg's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Third drive, you throw a pick to the sideline that
leads to an easy touchdown probably should have been a
pick six, to be honest with you. Next drive another pick,
you know, nine play, touchdown, drive, sack, fumble, a turnover
on downs, and then the very last driver or the
drive after that was a pick. So the offense really
did not do the defense any favors Mario in this
game on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
No, not at all.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
And it definitely was the three turnovers in the second
half the cost of defense, like Greg said, the short fields.
But defensively, I'm going to as McLoughlin. I just seen him,
Oh I call him all faithful. Now on the defense,
I just seen him flying around making plays and he's
the biggest playmaker on our defense.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Well and now, and now you're coming home and you
may not have Jacob Manu, right, I mean, I thought
he was flying around a little bit guys on on Saturday.
Clearly their best linebacker they've got, and it's not even
close right now. There's some young guys out there, but
Jacob Manu is the is the old veteran out there,
and he's only got one more game left to play
this season unless he gets some kind of a word
(21:20):
from the NCAA on his red shirt status. So you've
got Illinois, Greg, You've got Wisconsin, You've got Purdue, UCLA, Oregon.
Are we just gonna sit on this guy until the
last game of the year against the Ducks?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
How do you handle his situation?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Well, this is crazy situation. You know, this is what
football's become, and it's strange. Would I would argue this,
do you think with Jacob Manu is the difference between
you beating Organ or not. I don't know if he is.
I really don't know that he's the difference between you
beating Oregon or not. So I might claim this week
(21:55):
against Illinois, this is a football team that we talked
about as one of those four. If we're going to
get the nine wins that we got to get right,
And I think you have a better chance of beating
Illinois then you do Oregon. So maybe you played Jacob Manu.
Now he's you know, kind of in a rhythm, because
if you sit him out for four weeks or so
and he gets a little rusty and then you're going
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up against one of the top five teams in the country,
I don't know that he makes that much difference. So
I might play Jacob Minu this week because this might
be a week where he might actually be the difference
between a win or a loss.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, and Mario, the funny thing about Illinois, the last
time we saw them, they were getting drug by Ohio State.
They have a bye and then find themselves back in
the top twenty five after not even having played a game, right,
because of everything else that happened in college football, And look,
I mean the CFP playoff talk obviously should stop for now.
(22:47):
I mean, you know, everything we talked about with the
CFP was yeah, well it was just all it was
all dependent on beating Michigan, right, and getting to six
and one and having people be a little bit excited
about what this team then could do in these next.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Four games, which are all very winnable.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I mean, you've got Illinois, You've got a bad Wisconsin team,
you got a bad Purdue team, and then you got Ucla.
I realize Ucla is playing better, but you know they're
They're not elite by any stretch of the imagination. So
I mean these next four games, Mario, I don't know
what you think, man but for me, losing any of
them would be a disappointment.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Yeah, of course, losing any of them is disappointment. But
I agree with Greg said about MANU playing against Illinois,
like I think this, of course is the most important
because I think they have the capability of beating us
at home. Their two losses are to Ohio State and Indiana,
which I believe are two top ten teams, So they
have a great team and we need as much AMMO
(23:44):
as we can get for this game. And yes we're
playing at home, but we have started slow like the
past three weeks, so we need everything and we just
look at this game in front of us. I wouldn't
even think about the next four I'd be worried about
right now.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Well, and Greg, you mentioned it earlier, the offensive line
being banged up as a major problem right now, right
I mean, you're down to your third string left tackle
and Swane Fasolo, you're down to your second string left
guard and Pockey feedw And on top of that, you're
blocking tight ends. Guys like Quinton Moore are who knows
what their status is. I mean, he says he's fine,
and coaches said he was moving around after the game
on Saturday, put a tweet out saying he was okay.
(24:20):
So I guess we'll see what happens with him on Saturday.
But you know, now you got Jet Fish talking about
playing some freshman tight ends and Austin Simmon and Baron Naoni,
who's the freshman from Westland, Oregon.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You know, both guys that may not be ready yet
to play.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
So I'm getting concerned about the injuries on the offensive
line and to the tight end group being kind of
an equalizer that maybe is going to be a problem
even in one of these next four games.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
It's been a problem in the last three games, So
you know, I think that goes without saying. You know,
my biggest concern coming into the twenty twenty five football season,
I said it from show number one, and that is
this team's depth. I don't know that this team has
the depth to get into your second and third teamers
(25:07):
and win big ten football games when you get into
the heart of the season. I have not changed from
that stance, and so because of that, this is going
to be a you know, really dependent on who's playing
and more so who's not playing. The Washington Huskies have
built a team where you've gotten the starters in position
(25:28):
that can help you win football games. But you know,
it's something different about building depth so that in the
throes of a real physical conference, when you lose guys,
do you have those backup guys. It was untested going
into the year. I would say it's tested now, and
I would say that we're getting about a C minus
on that test for our depth.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Mario, how about you?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I would you grade that entire offensive line and the
overall depth on the team right now?
Speaker 6 (25:51):
The overall depth is probably a D. But the offensive line,
I think they've done as good a job as they can.
But it's quickly being cleated. So we're down to a seat.
I don't know what coach is gonna do. I think
our offensive line coach is doing a wonderful job or
what he has, but you can't do anything if you
don't have the depth and you don't have bodies out there.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Well, and Marty, I'm glad that you brought that up,
because this is a This is a guy in Jetfish
who has been here now for a year and a half,
six and seven and year number one, five and two
so far in year number two, so he's eleven and
nine overall at you dub and people keep talking about
how you know Deman Williams needs a signature win at
you dubb. You know who else needs a signature win
(26:33):
at you dub is Jetfish doesn't have one yet. Now,
obviously he may not have many opportunities the rest of
the way because you've only got one ranked team left
on your schedule, or excuse me, two ranked teams with Illinois.
But I'm not sure if Husky fans are gonna throw
a party because you beat Illinois for crying out loud.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
So every big game this team seems to play.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
From a name perspective, they either get blown out or
they find a way to lose it. So what is
our kind of a assessment Greg and Mario of jed
Fish after twenty games.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
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your free estimate today, Illinois. The aligne I going to
be here on Saturday, number twenty three in the country
off say thirty four to sixteen lost two weeks ago.
Another team the Huskies are facing, guys coming off a bye,
had a nice win earlier this year over USC got
drilled by Indiana sixty three to ten, and here come
the A line. I who thought they'd be a pretty
(28:15):
decent football team this year and maybe fighting for a
CFP spot. But speaking of fighting, jedfish twenty games in
eleven and nine as the head coach at you, how
do we assess this guy Mario will start with you
after a year and a half.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
I'm going to give him a C. I thought about
the B minus, but that was just being scared the
coaches listening. I'm giving him a C. I just feel
like last year we had some games that we should
have won and could have won, but I gave him
grace because of the big ton over that he had
and just having brand new guys and fitting them into
his system. The great can change depending on how we
(28:53):
finished this out. As you said, we have two more
ranked opponents that were playing Illinoise in Oregon, but Wisconsin
perdue and you say we're supposed to beat them, so
he can change the grade if we.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Finish this season strong. But right now it's just a scene. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
I just I'm just going to give it an incomplete.
I think, you know, if you want to talk about grades,
it's like this is the second quarter of a school year, right,
you got time to get your grade better. I think
college football nowadays has become the win.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Now.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
You know, we're not accepting anything other than you know,
wins every week in championships, which is ultimately the goal.
But I still think that it takes some time to
come from nothing to get to something. And yes, I
would agree last year there's probably two more wins we
should have had, and the coaches contributed to that, but
I think young, inexperienced players also contribute to that. I
(29:48):
think this year we still have an opportunity. If we
can win nine games this year, me that would give
us a B. And I think he's on the right track.
So you know, I'm just gonna stick with the incomplete
right now, I would. I do hope though, that this
team kind of figures out how to become a little
more disciplined, fewer penalties, which I think the coaches impact,
(30:09):
get off the fastest starts, I think, and then established
some sort of offensive identity. Those are the things that
I think the coding staff needs to do by the
end of the year in order to get a passing grade.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I just guys, Greg, I would kind of tend to
agree with you. I think it's it's not a straight
line to the top. Obviously, there's gonna be you know,
two steps forward, one step back for for Jed, and
I thought Saturday was a step back for him. I mean,
they've played in their last seven Big Ten games, They've
scored seven points or less three times, and their last
seven Big Ten games. And for an offensive guy, you know,
(30:40):
for a guy that prides himself on offense, I mean,
I mean, to me, that's not acceptable. I don't care
who you're playing, to be shut down like that offensively,
and that kind of guys to me, you know, feels
like the offense is a bit of a paper tiger.
I remember early in the year, you know, we were
all talking about, oh, the Huskies have scored eleven straight touchdowns,
blah blah blah blah, well against two against nobody, and
(31:02):
then all of a sudden, the competition rams up and
this is, at best right now, a middle of the
pack offense, Mario, in the Big.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Ten, that's exactly what they are.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Like I said, We're looking at all those those first
few games and we have these offensive weapons, but who
are they actually playing. We've had a few games where
we've play some top tier teams and some top tier athletes,
and we look very average out there. So we're gonna
have to figure something out.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I think there's an old saying, and it sounds corny softy,
that football games are won at the line of scrimmage.
I think what we're seeing when you make the paper
tiger analogy is we're seeing a football team that has
some talented skill players, but they are not good enough
yet still on the offensive line, especially with the depth
and then that tight end role, you know, where he's
(31:50):
a blocker of meat potatoes kind of guy. We're not
good enough in those you know, trench positions for those
flashy talent, skilled players to consistently do what they do
because they're hampered by, you know the fact that the
guys in the trenches aren't good enough just yet. So
I think a paper tiger is when you got those
(32:11):
great weapons, but you're not able to deploy them consistently
because you don't have the foundation right.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Well, they're fifteenth in scoring offense in the Big ten
in conference games, so hopefully that number will get bumped
up a little bit this Saturday versus Illinois. But we'll
just wrap it up there. The ALIGNI coming to town
on Saturday. They're making the trip. They're the ones that are.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Dealing with the travel and.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
All that stuff going to the West Coast obviously, So
let's leave it with that. What do you want to
see Saturday? What do you want to see Saturday, Mario
that you did not see Saturday versus Michigan.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
What we haven't seen in the last three games is
a fast start by our offense, and with Greg just
talked about, I want to see some establish some type
of identity. And I also want to see Jonah Comb
and get the ball at least twenty kiddies.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah right, I would just you know, all the things
Mario said, so I won't repeat, but Altmeyer and quarterbacks
for Illinois can be dynamic. He's had some huge games,
well over three hundred yards. Get some damn pressure on
the quarterback this week. Let's make him uncomfortable, Husky Nation.
Let's rattle those guys defense. Let's get some real true pressure.
(33:16):
Let's not just pressure. I've said before that I like
the pressure thing. But now get him on the ground,
hit him, knock him down, sack him, make him uncomfortable.
We got to make Altmeyer a regular player, not the
three hundred and fifty yr passing guy he's been in
their wins.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, thirteen sacks after seven games is not good enough.
All right, guys, good stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
We'll see a Saturday morning at eight thirty, kickoff at
twelve thirty UW Illinois.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
That's it for us on a Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
We'll talk to you tomorrow from the five twenty bar
and grill three o'clock Mike Holmgren, Rick new Heisel before
cracking hockey. We'll talk to you then on ninety three
to three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Bye Go Dogs.
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