October 23, 2025 • 49 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain react to one Seahawks broadcaster’s social media remarks after Mariners fans after the season ended this week, then cover college football with Rick Neuheisel before getting a Fact or Fiction pick. They then hear from Jerry Dipoto who spoke to the media today before Mike Holmgren joins the show.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Go.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Jerry to Poto, who met with the media today along
with Dan Wilson and Justin Hollander, the emotions were flying high,
and look, you know me, I like that, you know,
I appreciate that from those guys. You know, I think
every now and then, you gotta make sure the fans
realize and I think all of us probably get it.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
You know that you're human. Of course this is going
to affect you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Of course it's gonna sting, and it stings the fan base,
it stings the people that work for the organization. I'm
talking to people, I know, guys that work behind the
scenes at the Mariners, and they're talking about how, you know,
the vibe is, you know, everyone's down, which is the
way it's supposed to be for.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Crying out loud, right.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So every now and then, I think you have to
remind the fan base that you care just as much,
if not more, than they do. And I thought the
Mariners did a pretty good job of doing that today.
So we'll hear from Jerry to Poto around three forty five.
Mike Holmgrim will join us as well at four before
pregame with the Kraken at four point thirty five. O'clock
face off from Winnipeg, and I mean, I don't even
know where to start. I mean, you got this crazy
(01:02):
story in the NBA Dick with these guys that are
getting arrested by the FBI. Husky is Illinois on Saturday
cracking coming up tonight, and I'm just gonna go ahead
and say it. I know we talked about it off
the year, but I can't help myself, Jackson, can't help myself. Yep,
I'm sorry. Paul Moyer, who works for the Seahawks pregame
postgame show, telling fans on Twitter of the Mariners that
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it's been two days since the loss and they should
get over it. And I would just tell Paul Moyer, Hey, Paul,
go f yourself. Okay, how's that sound Take a hike. Pal,
Either shut the hell up or sit this one out,
because nobody wants to hear from anybody, especially somebody who
works for a different team in town, telling them to
get over the worst loss and maybe the most heartbreaking loss,
(01:46):
let's put it that way in Mariner baseball history on
a Thursday afternoon. So if Paul wants to come on
this show and discuss it, he's more than welcome. He's
got my number, he wants to text me. Is more
than welcome. But I would just tell Paul Moyer shut
his big fat mouth, take a hike and sit this
one out if he thinks that people should be getting
over what happened Monday night by now. First of all,
(02:08):
he's responding just so you know, to some audio that
we posted on social media last night from Tuesday's show.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Okay, and it's of us.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
We're emotional on the air on Tuesday at two o'clock
after the loss on Monday, so the first time talking
about the guests. So this happened on Tuesday at two o'clock.
It was posted last night on social media, and Paul
Moyer yesterday telling people it's been two days and that
we should now get over it. And I would tell Paul,
there's no getting over it, at least on your timeline.
(02:38):
I'll get over it, and the fans will get over
it when they damn will please. And if you can't
understand that, then maybe you should just take a hike
and zip it for a while. Really disappointing to hear
somebody like Paul Moyer, who played for the Seahawks forty
years ago was on that I think eighty three AFC
championship team, right that played the Dolphins and played the
Raiders in eighty three. To hear him say something like
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that and tell fans to get over it is incredibly disappointing,
and I would just tell Paul, no, how about you
shut your face and move on and let us be
how's that sound?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I remember in nineteen ninety four we had after the
after the Sonics lost to the Nuggets, we had like
the worst May and early June weather that we've had forever,
and I stayed in a pall for weeks after that game.
I remember feeling depressed, literally for weeks after that game,
because that was really the first time in my life
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that we had something like that where you felt like
you had a championship team and it was ripped away
before you could win the championship. Since then, we've had others,
we've had the interception, we've had this one this week,
but that one was the first one for me, and
it took me a long time to get over get
over that, but to be over it in less than
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twenty four hours, because that's what we're talking about here, right,
I mean, we put that audio that audio went low
like nineteen hours after the game ended.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
That's right? Is that?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Is that too long? Should we get over that loss
in nineteen hours?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I don't think anything's too long. I think you do
it at your own pace. And I don't know, man,
I just there's certain things in this business and certain
things that just kind of make me cringe. And anybody
telling anybody else to get over something that bothers them
immensely and has caused tremendous heartbreak, whether you know sports
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wise or even you know, I guess real life, if
you know what I'm talking about, you know, family, whatever,
Who the hell does he think he freaking is to
tell people to get over something like that on Monday
Again we've been I mean, you guys don't need me
to explain it to me. You know, chasing this impossible
dream for fifty years, you're eight outs away. It's gonna
be heartbreaking for everybody, and for this guy who works
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in media in this town, same company that is the
flagship station for the Mariners, going on social media telling
people like us it's been two days.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
To get over it.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I mean, I don't know what else to stay, But
how about you do the world a favorite Paul and.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Shove your head up your ass. How's that sound? Get
over it?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You know?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I would also quickly like ask Paul two days on
that Tuesday after Super Bowl forty nine, would Mayorner, no
Marin or Brog, no Mariner person, no manor of a
fan would say Paul, get over super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Forty nine loss. In the interception, would you imagine Rick
Riz posting on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Like no, no, no, no. And this is where I
just can't help myself. Man, I just cannot help myself.
I mean, come on, guys, right, you know me, Like,
I want to just stay on Twitter and I want
to I want to call the guy. I want to
text the guy, you know whatever. But I don't know, man.
I mean, this is this is why. And this is
just another small little indicator of the absolute sewer that social.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Media has become.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, right, Because I'm sure there's a lot of great
people in Toronto. So there's a lot of great people
that call themselves Blue Jay fans. I'm not seeing any
of them in the last forty eight to seventy two hours.
I mean, the experiences that I've had on social media,
the experience that Andrews had in the crowd right sitting
in the center field bleachers.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I think it was for Game five. If I'm not
ho mistake.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I've seen videos from Rogers Center of Mariner fans.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well, it's just it paints the Blue Jays as the
biggest pricks in baseball, Okay, I mean just honestly, like
I I kind of want to say, and I'm just
gonna say it that it makes Oregon fans look like
Child's play.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Seriously, right, I mean I used to say it's very similar.
Were the worst that this is?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
These these people are unhinged lunatics and they're nasty. And
maybe it's because they're stuck in Canada and they don't
see the sun for two hundred and fifty days a year.
I have no idea what they're doing up there, but
you get to moments like this and you're really gonna
feel for, you know, kind of what a fan base
is all about. And it's probably, honestly, and I'll admitted
it's probably a little bit unfair because we're allowing Twitter
to paint the picture for millions of people. But the
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experience that a lot of you know, it's not just me,
by the way, random people that I've never even met
on social media are saying the same thing about these people.
So you know, I hope the Dodgers sweep them in
four uh, and they get their ask beat every single
day in this World Series, and I have no desire
to watch it the story.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I almost kind of wish. I kind of almost hope
it goes to seven and they blow a three run
lead in the in the ninth inning of the septh game,
because I want to. I want them to experience the
same type of pain that we experienced. A four game
sweep would be too easy, right, A four game sweep
would be just like you're never You're never stressed, and
you're never You're just like, Okay, we're not the better team.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Give them the hope, guys, give that. Let's give them
a few wins, give them the hope that they can
beat the Dodgers in the World Series, and then snatch
it away from them.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, Jackson, I like that idea.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I hadn't considered that. Push the knife and twist it
as deep and twisted as much as possible. I like
the idea of seven and then breakdown the.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Same thing I felt in the in the Thunder series
last year, I was like, I don't want this Thunder
to lose in four games. I wanted to go seven
and I want the Thunder to lose in seven in
the most heartbreaking way possible. Now that didn't happen, but
we've got another opportunity here.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
With Toronto right well again, I just right now, I
have no desire to watch any of it at all,
you know. I mean, maybe I'll change my mind if
I get a notification that they're down thirteen to nothing. Yeah,
and I'll flip on the game, But right now, I
have no desire all right. Rick Neuheisel will join us
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Speaker 2 (08:46):
I'd like to point out, by the way, before we
start talking college football games this weekend, that Rick new
Heiseel is now riding a three game winning streak.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Boys and Girls came through.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
With tempo in a big way given the points over
Charlotte hammering them this weekend.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
He began the year one in five.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He is now crawling back to a game under at
four and five on the year, and he's won three
in a row.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
How about that, coach? How about that run? Baby?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
How about me starting the show giving you full credit
like I promised.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
At a boy, I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you.
Let's not talk about it. Let's just see if we
can keep it going.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Done, done done?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
All right, Well, let's go back first of all, before
we talk about this Saturday's game and all the action
happening this weekend. Man Rick, the Dogs were right there
seven to seven at halftime against Michigan.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You know what it's like to coach in that stadium.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
The last two times I was there with you back
in two thousand and two and then went with Jimmy.
You know, just a couple of years ago, things didn't
go so well. They didn't go well again to Mont
Williams comes out and throws three picks in the second
half and the Huskies lose again to Wolverines. I mean,
how do you explain the offense just melting down on
the second half like that.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Yeah, it was absolutely a tough, tough second half for
the Dogs. Listen, at the end of the day, it
comes down to turnovers. You can't turn it over. It's
an old cliche, it's coach speak one oh one. But
when you turn the ball over and give short fields,
you're in the harm's way, especially when you get a
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crowd involved. And you know that's a tough place to
play anytime, as you know having been there with the
team on a couple of occasions. But to win, you
have to make those plays and you've got to cause
those turnovers, and that just wasn't to be on that
particular Saturday.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
How much of a concern should there be in DeMont
Williams when the competition steps up. I mean, through three
interceptions against Michigan, they scored seven points. They scored six
against OSU. Last year they scored six against Penn State
when he played half that game. I mean, how much
how much concern should there be because he is a
smaller quarterback, and that's first interception certainly was because he
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was short and he couldn't see the guy cutting across
the middle.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
You know, that's always going to be an issue. That's
something he can't control. I think that, you know, if
I were in the play caller's position, i'd move him
a little bit more, give him some free opportunities to
look down the field without that big pocket in front
of him. But at the day's end, I still think
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he's one of the really talented guys out there. And
when you play against these really talented fronts, which Ohio
State and Michigan both are, it's not as easy to
make the kind of you know, jaw dropping moves that
he makes against the rest of his team. So if
you get comfortable living off of that, you're going to
have problems when it's not there for you.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, Rick new Hazle with us and Rick is not
very often that we talk FCS football on this segment
with you, But are you tracking what your old special
teams coach Bobby Howke is.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Going back and forth with this week?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Was Sacramento State before the big game with Montana Friday night?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
How about that.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
There's some there's some talk huh big, clearly shocking knowing
Bobby like I know it, Well, where.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Is that coming from? Is that because Dick and I
were surmising on the air. Well, this is just them
trying to drum up this broadcast on ESPN two, which
they've done because I'm gonna go watch the game tomorrow night.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
I don't know where it comes. You know, Brendan Mary
and the head coach at sax State. It used to
be Troy Taylor, who was a GA of mine when
I was coaching at Colorado. Troy went to Stanford and
got let go this year for some kind of crazy reasons,
and I know he's suing the school and so forth. Uh,
Bobby and I have been together a long time now.
(12:53):
That's Ben and Mary and at Sacramento State. And he's
the guy that wouldn't pay that Matthew Seluca UNLB last
year when Seluka said I'm not playing anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yes, that's the same guy.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
So he didn't have much to say on that topic.
So maybe he just desired of not talking. He wants
to talk now.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Rick, The beloved Bruins are on a three game winning
streak and they're rolling into Indiana to take on the undefeated.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Who'sers sigh?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Is there an upset waiting for Jerry Newheizel's greatest win
of his career If he can get that one? Twenty
six points? That seems like a big number to lay for.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
The climb from twenty four and a half to twenty
six and a half. Yeah, So what did the guys
in dumb and Dumber say? So you're saying there's a chance, Yeah,
that's exactly where we are. You know, I heard Urban
Meyer talk about how you win a game of this
kind where you're big underdog, and he says, you don't
talk about winning, You talk about making a five yard
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gain on this play and pushing the pile. So you
get a three yard game on this play. And now
it's third and two and you convert, and all of
a sudden, you break a time and there's a twelve
yard game and the next thing you know, you're down
there in the red zone and somebody makes a great
catch and you play like that. And this is going
to be a party in Bloomington for all the people
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who've been waiting for this forever. This is the losingest
program in the history of college football. And yet now
they have the bellow the ball in Kurt Signetti. He
just got a ninety six million dollar raise. You can
imagine how the signetti. Confetti's going to be flying all
over the place. So how you win this game, is
what I told Marcus and all those guys, is we're
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going to make him in about the third quarter look
up and go, wait a minute, we're only ahead by three,
or we're behind by three, and they'll wake up and
they'll get into it. But instead of being raucous, they're
going to be nervous, and that's how you strike. Anyway,
it sounded good when I told the kid.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, Rick new Hazel's with us, and Rick two weeks
ago is James Franklin. Last week it was Billy Napier
are going to spend about seventy million dollars to get
rid of their coaches. So I guess the question is
where does Florida now go from here? And should Husky
fans even be thinking about Jeed fish in that regarding Gainesville?
Speaker 6 (15:12):
You know, having spent time with Jed this summer, I
know he loves it in Seattle, so I would if
he were to get interested in that job, it would
be something I would be surprised by. Obviously, it's where
he went to school, so it's an easy, you know,
connection to make. But he's made most of his life
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at least as a head coach on this side of
the country, on the west side of the country, and
so I think that he's probably very much in the
long haul. He may want to talk to the ad
about an extension should the thing gets heated up, which
is probably what Lane Kiffin's going to do at Ole
miss right. But I mean this is this is the
leverage limbo that is the agent's world. Jimmy Sexton and
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all the different guys out there are working the phones
trying to make deals because it's not just for the
guy who gets the job, it's for all the guys
that got their name in the paper about the job.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Rick, what do you make of the fighting a line E.
They've been blown out twice by the two really good
teams they face, but they have an impressive win over
a USC So what type of team are we going
to see coming into Montlake on Saturday.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
I think it's a little bit different than what you
would expect from Brett Beelman teams. I don't see them
as overly physical. I see them you know, you're able
to run the ball. They've given up a number of
games over two hundred yards on the ground. I see
this as But their quarterback is their key. Luke Altmeyer
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is a player. I think he has at least six
come from behind victories, maybe seven. He had five coming
into the year, which was the most of any returning quarterback.
And he did it again against that Sea and maybe
another time. So that's the key that the defense is
going to have to keep an eye on Altmeyer and
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make sure they corral him if they're going to have
success against Illinois.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah. Well, we talked about, you know, the travel in
this conference, and God, it just still feels like it's
a thing man that people are still kind of trying
to figure this out.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I guess my question is how long is this going
to be a freaking topic for because I'm getting kind
of sick and tired of talking about it. You know,
Lincoln Riley talking about it, Franklin was talking about it.
Mick cronin basketball coach at UCLA, we mentioned that to you,
talking about is this still a thing or is this just.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
An excuse that coaches like to keep in their back pocket.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Well, it's not a thing if you did it once
and maybe twice. But the hangover and what you get
in practice when you come back and you're missing some
sleep or your timing is off the practices, aren't it,
chrisp And so you're going to get with less confidence
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and it just has a residual effect. And it's just
part and parcel of the you know, the four West
Coast schools being a part of the Big Ten, and
you know, whether you're going to the Midwest, you're going
all the way across to the East coast. It is
problem now. You do everything you can to use the
science and you know, but they're school involved and it
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something's got to give. And that's why I hope someday
we get back to divisions in these conferences so there's
less of it. Twice a year would be okay, four
times a year? Is it a little overwhelming?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Well, Rick, I got a factor fiction pick to make
in a couple of minutes, and I looked at this
Wazoo Toledo game in Pullman, and I'm like, what am
I missing here? The Kougs are one and a half
point underdogs to the Rockets. What is what is Toledo
bringing into Pullman?
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Nobody is paying attention to? Is it zebby echo Yev?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, yes, zeb No one's.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Paying it attention to that guy. He almost pulled off
two unbelievable upsets. They were at Ole Myths and got
within a field goal of that game, having the lead
for much of it. And then at Virginia, who's only
got one loss, and is you know, kind of the
darlings of the ACC right now they win, they have
a safety late in the game that ends up costing
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him that game. This kid is really good. I loved
zebbe kouts in Washington State this week especially. Are we
going to get any weather in Pullman?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Little ram but shouldn't be bad, not as bad as Seattle.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
And remember those those teams in the MAC are not traveling.
It's kind of lush accommodations that those those power schools
are traveling with. I love the Cougars in this spot.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I love it all right.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Well, let's get to it then, because this is the
big one. This is the moment that all of us
have been waiting for. We can get back to five
hundred rick with our Taco Time pick of the week.
I'm gonna go with a chicken soft taco crispy for
large Coke zero, just you know, my consistent favorite menu
items on the menu. I'm boring, but I'm consistent. So
to get back to five hundred, your Taco Time pick
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of the week is.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
What no one ever called you boring, Saftie.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Plenty of people have trust me.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
We are going with an old assistant coach of mine.
He coaches for the Vanderbilt Commodores. Clarkley is his name.
They are I think a two and a half point
favored over Missouri game day is going to be there.
The city of Nashville will come ablaze with Commodore fever.
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And this is like never happened before. They when they
were favored last week against LSU was the first time
since the late seventies they've been favored against an SEC team,
and it was the first time against LSU they were
favored since nineteen forty seven. So I love what's going on.
And it's no accident that Diego Pave is the real deal.
He gives them an edge. Give me the Commodores. I'll
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lay the two and a half over Missouri.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Vanderbilt minus to two and a half against Missouri on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
All right, Rick, great stuff.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
But sprinkle a little on those cougars. Sprinkle a little
on those cougo.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Just a little. I like it.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I like it a little little side action. Rick, you're
the man. Great stuff, and we're talking a week bud,
see you boy, take Cary, you bet. Let's get the
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you go?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I woke up this morning at seven thirty five only
to hear Chuck pwll just rip my Chargers pick right
from me. So I can't go with the Chargers. So
Rick new Isil said, sprinkle a little on the coops
plus one and a half. We're going with Zev plus
one and a half at home against Toledo Rockets. All
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Zev has done is look really impressive against the Huskies
and then almost beat Ole Miss and Virginia. I mean,
the Cougs are better than their record. They are better
than their record, and for one day, I'll root for
him this Saturday.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
H Yeah, No, you're not rooting for him. You're not
root for the Cooks. You're just doing what I do.
When it comes to the Huskies in Oregon, in the
Apple Cup, in Toronto and Seattle. That either way you're
a winner. Either A they lose it home to Toledo
or B you got a factor fiction pick in your
back pocket. So what's the line again?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Plus one and a half.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Hubs are getting plus one and a half at home
against Toledo on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
You like it text, In fact, you hate it.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
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Eagle Casino and Hotel, where every day feels lucky. Hey, listen,
you know where I'm at with them. I wanted to
take the Coobs a week ago, and you talk me
out of it, and they almost won the freaking game again,
by the way, So against virgin maybe they're just a
covering machine.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
They could be.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Hey, look, as long as it keeps making the money
and keeps working, what the hell man go for it?
So I mean you got less animosity I think towards
them now because they're really not even really a factor anymore.
You know, it stinks and you hate too well. I
was gonna say I hate to admit it, but I
really don't. In some ways, they're at a different conference now,
so you just don't have that that you used to
have back in the day.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I remember, I still have a wife that's a Coops
that is happy wife happy.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
She literally is a cougar and she graduated from Washoo.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
At the same time, we're gonna break Coobs plus the
one and a half correct plus the one and a
half against Toledo is the play Get the Picks in
Now Factor fiction to four nine, four to five one.
Jerry Depoto, Jerry Depoto, Mariner President baseball Operations, spoke today
along with Dan Wilson, Justin Hollander. I wonder if Paul
Morder would tell those guys to get over it. Two
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days after losing to Toronto in Game seven of the Alcs.
We're gonna hear from an emotional Jerry Depoto next on
ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
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Speaker 2 (24:38):
All right, so today over at T Mobile Park, Jerry Depoto,
Justin Hollander, Dan Wilson all met in I guess like
separate media scrums. It was not like a podium style setting.
I had a little deal today with the assembled Mariner
media at T Mobile earlier this morning and wanted to
just play a few minutes of Jerry Depoto meeting with
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the media, giving us kind of a little bit of
an insight to kind of how he's doing after after
Monday's loss. His his emotional states and how he's dealing with,
let's face it, I assume for him the most heartbreaking
loss of his career as a baseball executive.
Speaker 9 (25:16):
You know, a number of friends who do what I
do for a living suggested, you know that it might
be wise just to take a week or so and
and not think about baseball. And but it's probably not
our nature. We'll we'll get back after it next week
and start working at it. But you know, for now,
mostly just you know, replaying just like everybody else, our fans,
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replaying a variety of different you know, events in our heads.
And you know, we'll we'll probably I will see George
Bringer on the ceiling of by Sleep for years to come.
It's as he's tormented us for years, and you know,
but again, really proud of what we've been able to accomplish,
you know, in the big picture this year, and looking
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forward to to get to work to put together a
good team again for next year.
Speaker 10 (26:02):
The moves you made at the trade deadline clearly made
a difference obviously Josh and Geno and down the stretch
of the playoffs. How much of a priority is bringing
we'll start with Josh back next.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
Year, Yeah, obviously it's priority, and you know, we will
take a step back from where we are before we
truly assass and we'll communicate with the players before we
say anything publicly. But you know, we're we're still, like
I said, in grief mode and so were they. But
loved every minute with those guys and with others who
are pending free agents or potentially pending free agents. And
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you know, we've obviously been in planning mode and competitive
mode and trying to put together plans and rosters to
win games. And you know, we've discussed twenty twenty six
and beyond and we do that fairly regularly, so it's
not going to sneak up on us, but it is
appropriate to communicate with those guys before we do.
Speaker 10 (26:54):
A publicly mentioned discussions about plans for twenty twenty six.
What do you anticipate the EROL to be next year
similar to this year?
Speaker 11 (27:00):
Would?
Speaker 9 (27:00):
I would say similar to where we ended the year,
you know, as a starting point. So you know, we
ended the season I think with the second highest our
highest payroll that we've ever had as a franchise. And
this was always the goal was to methodically build toward
what we were doing and you know, I'm comfortable that
the resources that we're given, we're gonna have every ability
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to go out and put together a championship quality team.
And like we have in recent years, when we get
into the right position, I'm certain that we will be
aggressive and doing the next thing.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Does that included the deadline?
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Will you be able to do that too next year?
Speaker 9 (27:35):
You know, we've always been able to do that. It's
a if I look back over these last five years,
you know, it's we tend to just monitor where we are,
and then in seasons like twenty two and twenty four
and twenty five, we lean in and a lot of
our team I said this toward the end. There was
a point in September this year where eleven of our
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twenty six active players were acquired a trade deadline trades. So,
you know, in one way the other, we've always been
a very active team in general, but particularly active at
the trade deadline. And you know, and that's where that's
where Nails and Gino and Randy and the Rock and
I could go on Mooney and Brash, they all came
from that time on the clock somewhere in the last
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five years. So we're in and you know, and if
it means you're acquiring you know, real earners, guys like
Gino or Josh or Louis Castillo or Randy. You know,
I think we've been in that boat for a while now,
and the commitment that we get from ownership is real.
And you know, this year, the uniqueness was that we
added two of those types of players, and I think
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it shocked people. But you know, we have the support
of our ownership group and they've always been open to
us pushing in.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
If you could use one word or phrase to wrap
up this season, I know I'm putting you on the
spot with that question, but how do you feel right now?
Speaker 9 (28:54):
I mean I'm gonna have a different word now than
I'll have in a couple of weeks, you know, but disappointed.
Disappointed and I know everybody else is too. It's no.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Disappoint I love it.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I mean, there's been times where I haven't agree with Jerry,
and I've been maybe a critical of Jerry and all that.
You guys know that, but not now. I mean that's
as a fan. Look, I mean, the off season is
gonna come. We'll figure it out. You know, what does
Stanton provide for him, you know, blah blah blah. Right,
we'll get to that when we get to that. But
what I want as a fan, besides the obvious, is
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to win as much as you can. Is sure that
you care as much as I do, Sure that you're
bothered by this as much as I am. And I
think sometimes franchises don't do a good job of conveying
that message to their fan base, either because they don't
know how or be they don't feel that way right.
They look at it as more of a business and
an entity than the uh, you know, caretakers of something
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that's beloved to a lot of people. And hearing the
Poto get emotion like that, it's awesome. I love it.
I've been waiting for that for a long time out
of him, I think it's great. I'm sorry it took
this to get that out of him on Monday night,
but good for him. And he's exactly right, Dick about
the deadline, the moves they've made. You know, what you
want is for them to build the best possible team
that they can over the offseason, and then when things
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inevitably don't work, then they fill in the blanks at
the deadline at the end of July. But hey, you know,
does it make me feel better about Monday?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Now? Do I appreciate what I just heard out of Jerry? Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, because he's always been so calculated, almost robotic in
the way he answers these questions. So I think it's
very refreshing to hear him choke up a little bit.
And it was a great question as well.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, good job in a Jess but way. It made
him pry Jess way to go.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Yes, I still think that, you know, Josh Naylor is
priority number one, two, and three for this baseball team. However,
if you end up resigning Josh Naylor, that's probably going
to be it could be he's gonna take up twenty
million dollars a year and that's probably going to be it.
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So you're gonna have to rely on the Ben Williamsons
and the Harry Fords, and you're gonna have to rely
on all these young kids to fill in these spots,
because if you do bring Josh Naylor back, I don't
think they're bringing any other free agent.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, yeah, over the offseason. I mean it's possible.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
You know, they did say that their payroll is going
to start the year where they ended the year, which
you know includes a third of Josh Naylor's salary. Obviously,
au Hanio, I don't think it's coming back. You'll be
off the bucks. You're saving money on Garver. You know,
Polacko's got a player option for eight million. We'll see
what the market looks like for him and what he
decides to do, obviously, but yeah, I mean that could
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be their biggest ticket, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I mean, they're It's like you got.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Almost way more confidence in them at the end of
July than you do in November.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
To make the baseball still better. Well, that's been right.
I mean I think by now we should know that.
That's whether we like it or not.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
That's theirm it. So if you think you're going to
bring Josh Naylor in and another big name piece.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, you're crazy. Well here's what I want them to do.
I want them to do both. I want them to
make the team better at the deadline when they need
to be made better, and I want them to give
them the best shot they can to build the best
roster they can going into April. And if they can
do both those things, then who knows.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I mean, it puts pressure on the baseball team to
be good by July. Right, you can't be mediocre in
July because we see what happens what Jerry does. If
you're five hundred on July thirty first.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
He bails out, he bails out, bails out.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
You've got to be good on July thirty first for
him being investing.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Well, I just again, you know, last year was last
year with a route with Tellez at first and Polanko
who was deficient at third base defensively, Let's just not
do that again, right, Let's let's go into this year
with a team that we think is really really good now.
It won't be really really good in July because they're
really really good now. Then let's make it even better
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Speaker 1 (33:38):
Did how about that?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
We got to get Mike Hombran's take on that. By
the way, rig poker games funded by the mafia.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Apparently they were wearing like these.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
X ray glasses and special content X ray tables so they.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Could see it really hard.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
And the car, Mike, just when you think the world's
getting crazy, it gets even crazier.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
My friend, how you doing, man.
Speaker 11 (33:57):
I'm doing good and I will tell you this. Uh,
playing in poking games was really fun in college? Did
it in college? Did it? Did it? Did it? When
we were at bau Co coaches and we get some
guys at night, But uh it was it wasn't rigged
and there wasn't piles of money floating or out. Why goodness,
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that was a story.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Oh, coach, let's take it to the NFL. How concerned
should we be about NFL players NFL what about NFL
offensive coordinators calling plays? How should we be how rigged?
Or concerns would be about those guys rigging games?
Speaker 11 (34:36):
Uh, you know what, I would trust that wouldn't happen.
But you know, when this, there was a time when
I first got into it, I couldn't even if I
went to Las Vegas or Lake Tahoa or someplace, I
couldn't even walk into a sportsbook. I couldn't. And so
the thing is, you guys, well know, it's really changed.
And I thought when it changed, I thought there was
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a chance the thing was to get off the rails
just a little bit. And if this is any indication
of oh, this is bad, though, this is really bad.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, Well, I mean Billips is if he doesn't turn
over Benny bats and Tommy two fingers, he's going to
prison man and maybe for a long time. So crazy
story down there in Portland, no doubt about it. But
Mike speaking a crazy at game time. Actually, around five
point thirty on Monday night before the Seahawks and Texans played,
it was fifty dollars to get in the door for
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the Seahawk Texan game because the Mariners were playing in
Game seven of the Alcs at the exact same time,
So I don't even know. I mean, I haven't seen
any ratings from the game on Monday.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Dick.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You were there and you said there were some open seats.
It was obvious there were open seats in the stadium
on Monday. I mean, you know, do the players feel
that because there was a point, there was a part
of the game of Monday that kind of was a
little sloppy from a Seahawk perspective, and I wonder if
that kind of rubbed off on him indirectly.
Speaker 11 (35:57):
You know what. And that's a good, good thought, good question,
because it's different when you don't have I don't know,
you know, it's hard for me to under believe that
you didn't have a lot of noise in the normal
stuff in the stadium. But I remember playing in some stadiums,
and Saint Louis was the worst that I can remember
in the first half, and we were the visiting team
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saying upstairs, it's weird down here. Can you guys hear
anything up there? This is really different, and I think
it affects people. It certainly affected me, and it affected
the players. I think a little bit, but you know
what I'm with you day one the Mariners listen, that
was history having a chance to really be something, and
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the fact that they got there and this city and
how they backed the Mariners and those fans that are
baseball fans and they're there all the time. Yeah. I
was going back and forth and Kathy couldn't even watch
the game. She gets, she gets, you know, it's get
stressed out, and so it was special. I I it
doesn't surprise me that it took some of the stuff,
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some of the adventure out of the Seahawk game.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Well, maybe the most bizarre play of the game was
Sam Donald fumbling in his own end zone for a touchdown.
I would love to get your take of what your
face would look like and what the conversation would be
like when Sam Donald walked through the sidelines, and would
you go up to him and talk to him or
would you leave him alone on a play after a
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play like that.
Speaker 11 (37:30):
I probably shouldn't go up to him, but I think
I would have, And I was thinking about, actually, I
was thinking about how would I handle this Because you
guys like to ask me these questions when I get
fired up, But you know, I would probably say, you're
kidding me, aren't you? What did I just see? What
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did I just see you do? And trying to get
him to you know, okay, I learned a lot. I
learned a lot from Bill Walstill when he Joe Montana
or Steve where somebody would do something crazy on the
field and he'd be randy. He'd be ranting on the
phone with me. Guy, I'd be in the you know,
I discream it and then the player to come over
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to him and he goes, how's it going out there
and kind of calm things down. He'd never I go,
why does he talk to the Why is he yelling
at me?
Speaker 6 (38:21):
I'm not out there playing right?
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Well?
Speaker 2 (38:24):
He's one of the weirdest things from the game Monday
is the referee keeping Jackson Smith and Jigbuff from getting
his ass kicked by a plethora of Houston Texan players
on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Did you see that? And have you ever seen.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
A referee protect a player like that from the opposing team?
Speaker 11 (38:41):
Never? Never seen it? No, And then he was no,
I you know, I don't think he would have escalated
because he's you know, he's not a big, big guy,
and you know, but the fact that he hopped in
there and and did that. I was impressed. Maybe maybe
they're coming around. I wish they would handle their calls
like they'd handle that. I mean, because she whiz that.
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I think the officiating this year is is they're not
They're not getting good grades. I will say that, why.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Do you think? Well, I was gonna ask you something else,
but why do you think that is?
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I mean, why do you, like, do you think the
officiating is worse this year than it's been in a while?
And if so, why do you what do you attribute
that to?
Speaker 11 (39:21):
Well? I think it is. I I'm watching games and
I said, yeah, I wouldn't call that, you know, interference
or you know they're they're I think they're calling the
game tighter. I always was worried about you know, they
come into the meet with the coaches before the game
and they go okay, And then now you'd have some
questions or some you might have something like, I some team,
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would you know they they do lineup all sides on defense?
This team they do it all the time. It's never called.
Would you watch that plays? Or I'd say a couple
of things nicely to them. Okay, then you know what
would happen. What would happen is I'd get called for
that turning game that was the play I go with
a minute, I talk to you about there they doing that.
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I'm not me, you know, and so but I just
think it's it's a little picky picky right now and
too many calls, too many officiating calls, and they have
a tendency to adjust those during the season if it's
happening too much, which is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Coach, You've had a lot of different quarterbacks on the
scale of risk taking, the less risk guys. Of course,
Brett probably the most risk guy, and everywhere in between.
Where is Sam Darnold's on that list, because it does
seem like he likes to push the envelope and sometimes
it is a great ball and sometimes it gets picked off.
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He is he the type of risk taker you like
or is he more risky than you'd like?
Speaker 11 (40:44):
Well? Right now, well, I think, first of all, I
like him, you know that. And then I think he's
having I think he's off to a great start. I
think this team is doing well, you know, But I
would say this to your point, you know, it's it's yeah,
he throws some pass. Is that you know, he's been
so good and then all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Why.
Speaker 11 (41:06):
Do you do that? You know, in my mind, why
did you do that? And so I think there's some
work there, there's some man he knows that. The thing
another thing I like about the young man and he
seems to know that. You know, he puts it on
the South and the guys that are willing to change,
and I go back to far if he's willing to change. Finally,
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before I died, you know that. You know, I think
Sam does that. He works hard at doing that.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Well, Mike Comengrin's with us, and Mike, I got to
ask you about Jackson Smith and Jigba. He's on pace
for one hundred and seventy targets, which I think is
like thirty more than DK metcalf ever got when he
was here in Seattle. Would have been number two in
the NFL a year ago, number three in the NFL
two years ago. So he's up there in receptions, in targets.
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And I guess my question to you, unless another receiver
steps up and really starts to compliment him, and maybe
Cooper's doing enough.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Maybe you think he's doing enough. Now can this continue?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Like can they continue to just force feed this guy,
and how come defenses aren't doing a better job of
taking him away.
Speaker 11 (42:13):
Well, I think that's the question, Dave. I think when
you look at them, I don't think they're force feeding him.
I just think for some reason, defenses are not covering
him the way they should. You know, I mean, he is.
You're playing the Seahawks, you better take my thing. I'd
go into the defensive room and I'd say, Okay, I'm
not going to tell you how to run your defense
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and everything, but one thing I want to see. I
want to see good coverage on this guy. I want
to see him bumped at the line of scrimmage. He
is killing people. And right now he's seen way too
many balls and he's open. Is a lot of them
aren't close. They're good throws, but a lot of times
he's wide open, and so it's a little bit of
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a puzzle. But I don't think. I just think that
he First of all, he's really good. I mean, he's
really good. And then I don't think that you're going
to see much change during the course of the season
unless teams say we're not. He's not going to beat us.
He is not going to beat us.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
How good can this defense be this year? Coach?
Speaker 11 (43:14):
I think, you know what, I think they're really good.
They they and they could be even better, you know
when they get It's amazing to me again that you know,
two of their best defensive players did not play, you know,
could not play because of injury, and they still did
a great job. And the defensive line is allowing them,
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allowing the defense to just just go nuts. I mean
that they really are good on defense. And give credit
to the head coach. That's his deal.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Hey, I know you're not on social media a lot.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
I'm not totally convinced that you don't have a couple
of secret burner accounts on Twitter.
Speaker 11 (43:55):
By the way, before you what's Twitter?
Speaker 1 (44:00):
You know what a burner account is?
Speaker 11 (44:01):
By the way, No, I don't know a burner account.
I don't know what Twitter is.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
To keep calling, well, did you see what Russell Wilson
did to Sean Payton or said to Sean Payton?
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I don't know if you caught this or I did?
Speaker 11 (44:13):
Yeah, I read I read about you.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, Sean Payton telling Brian Dable he wishes they would
have saved Jackson Dart until their game with the Broncos
was over, which is an indirect shot at Russell Wilson
saying we'd rather see Russell Wilson than Jackson Dart and
you know, to paraphrase, Russell Wilson goes on Twitter and
says up yours to Sean Payton, which I thought was great,
and it's like, my gut, where's that bit from Russell?
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For fifteen years? So Peyton says he didn't mean it
as a slight to Russell. Do you believe him when
he said that, not.
Speaker 11 (44:42):
One not one bit. I think I think he believed
I know Sean and you know what, but I will
say this coaches. You you you talked to the opposing
coaches and they had worked together at one time, so
they knew each other. So there are things that come out.
I'm surprised they got out in the open. I don't
know how that happened, you know, but but you know, I.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Mean surprising he said that Peyton public.
Speaker 12 (45:06):
Yeah, he had his press conference or saying yes, well,
well you know, uh gee, you know what, but Russell,
I don't I don't blame Russell Wilson at all.
Speaker 11 (45:20):
He you know, he I think he really wanted to Russell.
You know, you guys know Russell, He's he wants to
do well. He wants to be the star of the
show and have people love him and all that, and
it didn't work out in Denver, and so it still
sticks with him. He didn't forget that stuff. So when
the head coach comes out and blast you a little
bit or just throws a little slant at you, you know,
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of course you're going to react. I thought it was
kind of well, it didn't surprise It surprised me a
little bit because he's so careful, Russell, so careful and
how he how he.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
He talks coach. There's a small handful of teams vying
for the biggest disasters in the world of sports, and
the Jets are one of them. They're zero and seven
and Aaron Glenn's probably on his way out, but he
says he's not naming a starting quarterback this week. Why
because he doesn't want to reveal his secrets to the Bengals.
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Is that is that a savvy move or is that
just kind of meaningless?
Speaker 11 (46:18):
I think it's kind of meaningless, you know, I mean,
his his h if there is a if that was
if you had Reggie White or Lawrence Taylor or someone
like that, and you weren't sure if that person was
going to play, and you know you had that guy's
a difference maker. Then then you say, okay, you might
you might get a little cute with that, but no,
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that doesn't mean anything. The other team goes about it,
I don't We don't care who plays quarterback. We see
what's on film and then that's the guy we're going
to go against. But uh, you know the Jets, you know,
and you're right there. I don't think you know Aaron Glenn.
I don't know Aaron that well, but he you know.
I'm opposed to owners firing coaches after one year. I
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don't like that. I don't think that's I don't think
that's fair at all, you know, because there's a lot
of reasons teams, you know, have a season like this,
and so it's not all a coach. But we'll see
what happens.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Well, did what did Johnson try to hire you with
the Jets? Or was it somebody else that own the team?
Speaker 11 (47:21):
Then no, it was Woody Johnson.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
What he what he said about justin Fields? No, he
said he said about justin fields. If we can just
complete a pass, it would look pretty good. This is
the owner of the Jets. So you just say you
don't like owners firing coaches. How about owners ripping their
quarterbacks they decided to make their starters over the offseason.
Speaker 11 (47:44):
Oh no, that's you know, yeah, that's but you know, owners,
I was talking to somebody today. Owners. There are owners
that help you, They really help you. Paul Allen helped me.
You know, Eddie de Barlow with the forty nine ers.
I didn't have an owner in Green Bay, so Ron
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Wolf helped me. You know, there are some owners that
don't help you. They decide to they involved themselves in
the football thing too much, and they want a draft.
They lean towards players in the draft, and you just go, okay,
but ye Wood, he you know what I almost went.
I almost went, I will be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah, Well, good thing you didn't, Mike. We got to run.
We're up against the clock for hockey. Great stuff. Hope
you feel better and hope to see you in a week.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
All right, man, coach, all right, but thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
All right, man, Mike homeran with us on the radio show. Yeah,
you think your team's a disaster. Just go look at
the Jets and the meadow lands and how bad they've
been for as long as they've been.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Hey, we got cracking hockey.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Speaking of the Jets, here we go win a peg
and a boys boys looking for a win snapping a
little two game losing streak here from Winnipeg, Mike Benton
Everett fits you big, al Kaniski Baby. We'll take you
the rest of the way and we'll talk to tomorrow
three o'clock right here on ninety three three kJ RFN big.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Thanks for the five twenty four and grill bye.
Go.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Jerry to Poto, who met with the media today along
with Dan Wilson and Justin Hollander, the emotions were flying high,
and look, you know me, I like that, you know,
I appreciate that from those guys. You know, I think
every now and then, you gotta make sure the fans
realize and I think all of us probably get it.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
You know that you're human. Of course this is going
to affect you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Of course it's gonna sting, and it stings the fan base,
it stings the people that work for the organization. I'm
talking to people, I know, guys that work behind the
scenes at the Mariners, and they're talking about how, you know,
the vibe is, you know, everyone's down, which is the
way it's supposed to be for.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Crying out loud, right.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So every now and then, I think you have to
remind the fan base that you care just as much,
if not more, than they do. And I thought the
Mariners did a pretty good job of doing that today.
So we'll hear from Jerry to Poto around three forty five.
Mike Holmgrim will join us as well at four before
pregame with the Kraken at four point thirty five. O'clock
face off from Winnipeg, and I mean, I don't even
know where to start. I mean, you got this crazy
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story in the NBA Dick with these guys that are
getting arrested by the FBI. Husky is Illinois on Saturday
cracking coming up tonight, and I'm just gonna go ahead
and say it. I know we talked about it off
the year, but I can't help myself, Jackson, can't help myself. Yep,
I'm sorry. Paul Moyer, who works for the Seahawks pregame
postgame show, telling fans on Twitter of the Mariners that
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it's been two days since the loss and they should
get over it. And I would just tell Paul Moyer, Hey, Paul,
go f yourself. Okay, how's that sound Take a hike. Pal,
Either shut the hell up or sit this one out,
because nobody wants to hear from anybody, especially somebody who
works for a different team in town, telling them to
get over the worst loss and maybe the most heartbreaking loss,
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let's put it that way in Mariner baseball history on
a Thursday afternoon. So if Paul wants to come on
this show and discuss it, he's more than welcome. He's
got my number, he wants to text me. Is more
than welcome. But I would just tell Paul Moyer shut
his big fat mouth, take a hike and sit this
one out if he thinks that people should be getting
over what happened Monday night by now. First of all,
(02:08):
he's responding just so you know, to some audio that
we posted on social media last night from Tuesday's show.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Okay, and it's of us.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
We're emotional on the air on Tuesday at two o'clock
after the loss on Monday, so the first time talking
about the guests. So this happened on Tuesday at two o'clock.
It was posted last night on social media, and Paul
Moyer yesterday telling people it's been two days and that
we should now get over it. And I would tell Paul,
there's no getting over it, at least on your timeline.
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I'll get over it, and the fans will get over
it when they damn will please. And if you can't
understand that, then maybe you should just take a hike
and zip it for a while. Really disappointing to hear
somebody like Paul Moyer, who played for the Seahawks forty
years ago was on that I think eighty three AFC
championship team, right that played the Dolphins and played the
Raiders in eighty three. To hear him say something like
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that and tell fans to get over it is incredibly disappointing,
and I would just tell Paul, no, how about you
shut your face and move on and let us be
how's that sound?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I remember in nineteen ninety four we had after the
after the Sonics lost to the Nuggets, we had like
the worst May and early June weather that we've had forever,
and I stayed in a pall for weeks after that game.
I remember feeling depressed, literally for weeks after that game,
because that was really the first time in my life
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that we had something like that where you felt like
you had a championship team and it was ripped away
before you could win the championship. Since then, we've had others,
we've had the interception, we've had this one this week,
but that one was the first one for me, and
it took me a long time to get over get
over that, but to be over it in less than
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twenty four hours, because that's what we're talking about here, right,
I mean, we put that audio that audio went low
like nineteen hours after the game ended.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
That's right? Is that?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Is that too long? Should we get over that loss
in nineteen hours?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I don't think anything's too long. I think you do
it at your own pace. And I don't know, man,
I just there's certain things in this business and certain
things that just kind of make me cringe. And anybody
telling anybody else to get over something that bothers them
immensely and has caused tremendous heartbreak, whether you know sports
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wise or even you know, I guess real life, if
you know what I'm talking about, you know, family, whatever,
Who the hell does he think he freaking is to
tell people to get over something like that on Monday
Again we've been I mean, you guys don't need me
to explain it to me. You know, chasing this impossible
dream for fifty years, you're eight outs away. It's gonna
be heartbreaking for everybody, and for this guy who works
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in media in this town, same company that is the
flagship station for the Mariners, going on social media telling
people like us it's been two days.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
To get over it.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I mean, I don't know what else to stay, But
how about you do the world a favorite Paul and.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Shove your head up your ass. How's that sound? Get
over it?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You know?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I would also quickly like ask Paul two days on
that Tuesday after Super Bowl forty nine, would Mayorner, no
Marin or Brog, no Mariner person, no manor of a
fan would say Paul, get over super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Forty nine loss. In the interception, would you imagine Rick
Riz posting on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Like no, no, no, no. And this is where I
just can't help myself. Man, I just cannot help myself.
I mean, come on, guys, right, you know me, Like,
I want to just stay on Twitter and I want
to I want to call the guy. I want to
text the guy, you know whatever. But I don't know, man.
I mean, this is this is why. And this is
just another small little indicator of the absolute sewer that social.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Media has become.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, right, Because I'm sure there's a lot of great
people in Toronto. So there's a lot of great people
that call themselves Blue Jay fans. I'm not seeing any
of them in the last forty eight to seventy two hours.
I mean, the experiences that I've had on social media,
the experience that Andrews had in the crowd right sitting
in the center field bleachers.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I think it was for Game five. If I'm not
ho mistake.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I've seen videos from Rogers Center of Mariner fans.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well, it's just it paints the Blue Jays as the
biggest pricks in baseball, Okay, I mean just honestly, like
I I kind of want to say, and I'm just
gonna say it that it makes Oregon fans look like
Child's play.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Seriously, right, I mean I used to say it's very similar.
Were the worst that this is?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
These these people are unhinged lunatics and they're nasty. And
maybe it's because they're stuck in Canada and they don't
see the sun for two hundred and fifty days a year.
I have no idea what they're doing up there, but
you get to moments like this and you're really gonna
feel for, you know, kind of what a fan base
is all about. And it's probably, honestly, and I'll admitted
it's probably a little bit unfair because we're allowing Twitter
to paint the picture for millions of people. But the
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experience that a lot of you know, it's not just me,
by the way, random people that I've never even met
on social media are saying the same thing about these people.
So you know, I hope the Dodgers sweep them in
four uh, and they get their ask beat every single
day in this World Series, and I have no desire
to watch it the story.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I almost kind of wish. I kind of almost hope
it goes to seven and they blow a three run
lead in the in the ninth inning of the septh game,
because I want to. I want them to experience the
same type of pain that we experienced. A four game
sweep would be too easy, right, A four game sweep
would be just like you're never You're never stressed, and
you're never You're just like, Okay, we're not the better team.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Give them the hope, guys, give that. Let's give them
a few wins, give them the hope that they can
beat the Dodgers in the World Series, and then snatch
it away from them.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, Jackson, I like that idea.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I hadn't considered that. Push the knife and twist it
as deep and twisted as much as possible. I like
the idea of seven and then breakdown the.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Same thing I felt in the in the Thunder series
last year, I was like, I don't want this Thunder
to lose in four games. I wanted to go seven
and I want the Thunder to lose in seven in
the most heartbreaking way possible. Now that didn't happen, but
we've got another opportunity here.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
With Toronto right well again, I just right now, I
have no desire to watch any of it at all,
you know. I mean, maybe I'll change my mind if
I get a notification that they're down thirteen to nothing. Yeah,
and I'll flip on the game, But right now, I
have no desire all right. Rick Neuheisel will join us
coming up next. Go to see a Taco Time live
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Speaker 2 (08:46):
I'd like to point out, by the way, before we
start talking college football games this weekend, that Rick new
Heiseel is now riding a three game winning streak.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Boys and Girls came through.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
With tempo in a big way given the points over
Charlotte hammering them this weekend.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
He began the year one in five.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He is now crawling back to a game under at
four and five on the year, and he's won three
in a row.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
How about that, coach? How about that run? Baby?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
How about me starting the show giving you full credit
like I promised.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
At a boy, I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you.
Let's not talk about it. Let's just see if we
can keep it going.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Done, done done?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
All right, Well, let's go back first of all, before
we talk about this Saturday's game and all the action
happening this weekend. Man Rick, the Dogs were right there
seven to seven at halftime against Michigan.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You know what it's like to coach in that stadium.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
The last two times I was there with you back
in two thousand and two and then went with Jimmy.
You know, just a couple of years ago, things didn't
go so well. They didn't go well again to Mont
Williams comes out and throws three picks in the second
half and the Huskies lose again to Wolverines. I mean,
how do you explain the offense just melting down on
the second half like that.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Yeah, it was absolutely a tough, tough second half for
the Dogs. Listen, at the end of the day, it
comes down to turnovers. You can't turn it over. It's
an old cliche, it's coach speak one oh one. But
when you turn the ball over and give short fields,
you're in the harm's way, especially when you get a
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crowd involved. And you know that's a tough place to
play anytime, as you know having been there with the
team on a couple of occasions. But to win, you
have to make those plays and you've got to cause
those turnovers, and that just wasn't to be on that
particular Saturday.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
How much of a concern should there be in DeMont
Williams when the competition steps up. I mean, through three
interceptions against Michigan, they scored seven points. They scored six
against OSU. Last year they scored six against Penn State
when he played half that game. I mean, how much
how much concern should there be because he is a
smaller quarterback, and that's first interception certainly was because he
(11:05):
was short and he couldn't see the guy cutting across
the middle.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
You know, that's always going to be an issue. That's
something he can't control. I think that, you know, if
I were in the play caller's position, i'd move him
a little bit more, give him some free opportunities to
look down the field without that big pocket in front
of him. But at the day's end, I still think
(11:31):
he's one of the really talented guys out there. And
when you play against these really talented fronts, which Ohio
State and Michigan both are, it's not as easy to
make the kind of you know, jaw dropping moves that
he makes against the rest of his team. So if
you get comfortable living off of that, you're going to
have problems when it's not there for you.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, Rick new Hazle with us and Rick is not
very often that we talk FCS football on this segment
with you, But are you tracking what your old special
teams coach Bobby Howke is.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Going back and forth with this week?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Was Sacramento State before the big game with Montana Friday night?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
How about that.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
There's some there's some talk huh big, clearly shocking knowing
Bobby like I know it, Well, where.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Is that coming from? Is that because Dick and I
were surmising on the air. Well, this is just them
trying to drum up this broadcast on ESPN two, which
they've done because I'm gonna go watch the game tomorrow night.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
I don't know where it comes. You know, Brendan Mary
and the head coach at sax State. It used to
be Troy Taylor, who was a GA of mine when
I was coaching at Colorado. Troy went to Stanford and
got let go this year for some kind of crazy reasons,
and I know he's suing the school and so forth. Uh,
Bobby and I have been together a long time now.
(12:53):
That's Ben and Mary and at Sacramento State. And he's
the guy that wouldn't pay that Matthew Seluca UNLB last
year when Seluka said I'm not playing anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yes, that's the same guy.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
So he didn't have much to say on that topic.
So maybe he just desired of not talking. He wants
to talk now.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Rick, The beloved Bruins are on a three game winning
streak and they're rolling into Indiana to take on the undefeated.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Who'sers sigh?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Is there an upset waiting for Jerry Newheizel's greatest win
of his career If he can get that one? Twenty
six points? That seems like a big number to lay for.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
The climb from twenty four and a half to twenty
six and a half. Yeah, So what did the guys
in dumb and Dumber say? So you're saying there's a chance, Yeah,
that's exactly where we are. You know, I heard Urban
Meyer talk about how you win a game of this
kind where you're big underdog, and he says, you don't
talk about winning, You talk about making a five yard
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gain on this play and pushing the pile. So you
get a three yard game on this play. And now
it's third and two and you convert, and all of
a sudden, you break a time and there's a twelve
yard game and the next thing you know, you're down
there in the red zone and somebody makes a great
catch and you play like that. And this is going
to be a party in Bloomington for all the people
(14:13):
who've been waiting for this forever. This is the losingest
program in the history of college football. And yet now
they have the bellow the ball in Kurt Signetti. He
just got a ninety six million dollar raise. You can
imagine how the signetti. Confetti's going to be flying all
over the place. So how you win this game, is
what I told Marcus and all those guys, is we're
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going to make him in about the third quarter look
up and go, wait a minute, we're only ahead by three,
or we're behind by three, and they'll wake up and
they'll get into it. But instead of being raucous, they're
going to be nervous, and that's how you strike. Anyway,
it sounded good when I told the kid.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, Rick new Hazel's with us, and Rick two weeks
ago is James Franklin. Last week it was Billy Napier
are going to spend about seventy million dollars to get
rid of their coaches. So I guess the question is
where does Florida now go from here? And should Husky
fans even be thinking about Jeed fish in that regarding Gainesville?
Speaker 6 (15:12):
You know, having spent time with Jed this summer, I
know he loves it in Seattle, so I would if
he were to get interested in that job, it would
be something I would be surprised by. Obviously, it's where
he went to school, so it's an easy, you know,
connection to make. But he's made most of his life
(15:34):
at least as a head coach on this side of
the country, on the west side of the country, and
so I think that he's probably very much in the
long haul. He may want to talk to the ad
about an extension should the thing gets heated up, which
is probably what Lane Kiffin's going to do at Ole
miss right. But I mean this is this is the
leverage limbo that is the agent's world. Jimmy Sexton and
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all the different guys out there are working the phones
trying to make deals because it's not just for the
guy who gets the job, it's for all the guys
that got their name in the paper about the job.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Rick, what do you make of the fighting a line E.
They've been blown out twice by the two really good
teams they face, but they have an impressive win over
a USC So what type of team are we going
to see coming into Montlake on Saturday.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
I think it's a little bit different than what you
would expect from Brett Beelman teams. I don't see them
as overly physical. I see them you know, you're able
to run the ball. They've given up a number of
games over two hundred yards on the ground. I see
this as But their quarterback is their key. Luke Altmeyer
(16:47):
is a player. I think he has at least six
come from behind victories, maybe seven. He had five coming
into the year, which was the most of any returning quarterback.
And he did it again against that Sea and maybe
another time. So that's the key that the defense is
going to have to keep an eye on Altmeyer and
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make sure they corral him if they're going to have
success against Illinois.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah. Well, we talked about, you know, the travel in
this conference, and God, it just still feels like it's
a thing man that people are still kind of trying
to figure this out.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I guess my question is how long is this going
to be a freaking topic for because I'm getting kind
of sick and tired of talking about it. You know,
Lincoln Riley talking about it, Franklin was talking about it.
Mick cronin basketball coach at UCLA, we mentioned that to you,
talking about is this still a thing or is this just.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
An excuse that coaches like to keep in their back pocket.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Well, it's not a thing if you did it once
and maybe twice. But the hangover and what you get
in practice when you come back and you're missing some
sleep or your timing is off the practices, aren't it,
chrisp And so you're going to get with less confidence
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and it just has a residual effect. And it's just
part and parcel of the you know, the four West
Coast schools being a part of the Big Ten, and
you know, whether you're going to the Midwest, you're going
all the way across to the East coast. It is
problem now. You do everything you can to use the
science and you know, but they're school involved and it
(18:24):
something's got to give. And that's why I hope someday
we get back to divisions in these conferences so there's
less of it. Twice a year would be okay, four
times a year? Is it a little overwhelming?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Well, Rick, I got a factor fiction pick to make
in a couple of minutes, and I looked at this
Wazoo Toledo game in Pullman, and I'm like, what am
I missing here? The Kougs are one and a half
point underdogs to the Rockets. What is what is Toledo
bringing into Pullman?
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Nobody is paying attention to? Is it zebby echo Yev?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, yes, zeb No one's.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Paying it attention to that guy. He almost pulled off
two unbelievable upsets. They were at Ole Myths and got
within a field goal of that game, having the lead
for much of it. And then at Virginia, who's only
got one loss, and is you know, kind of the
darlings of the ACC right now they win, they have
a safety late in the game that ends up costing
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him that game. This kid is really good. I loved
zebbe kouts in Washington State this week especially. Are we
going to get any weather in Pullman?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Little ram but shouldn't be bad, not as bad as Seattle.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
And remember those those teams in the MAC are not traveling.
It's kind of lush accommodations that those those power schools
are traveling with. I love the Cougars in this spot.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I love it all right.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Well, let's get to it then, because this is the
big one. This is the moment that all of us
have been waiting for. We can get back to five
hundred rick with our Taco Time pick of the week.
I'm gonna go with a chicken soft taco crispy for
large Coke zero, just you know, my consistent favorite menu
items on the menu. I'm boring, but I'm consistent. So
to get back to five hundred, your Taco Time pick
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of the week is.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
What no one ever called you boring, Saftie.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Plenty of people have trust me.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
We are going with an old assistant coach of mine.
He coaches for the Vanderbilt Commodores. Clarkley is his name.
They are I think a two and a half point
favored over Missouri game day is going to be there.
The city of Nashville will come ablaze with Commodore fever.
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And this is like never happened before. They when they
were favored last week against LSU was the first time
since the late seventies they've been favored against an SEC team,
and it was the first time against LSU they were
favored since nineteen forty seven. So I love what's going on.
And it's no accident that Diego Pave is the real deal.
He gives them an edge. Give me the Commodores. I'll
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lay the two and a half over Missouri.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Vanderbilt minus to two and a half against Missouri on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
All right, Rick, great stuff.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
But sprinkle a little on those cougars. Sprinkle a little
on those cougo.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Just a little. I like it.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I like it a little little side action. Rick, you're
the man. Great stuff, and we're talking a week bud,
see you boy, take Cary, you bet. Let's get the
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Speaker 3 (22:11):
I woke up this morning at seven thirty five only
to hear Chuck pwll just rip my Chargers pick right
from me. So I can't go with the Chargers. So
Rick new Isil said, sprinkle a little on the coops
plus one and a half. We're going with Zev plus
one and a half at home against Toledo Rockets. All
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Zev has done is look really impressive against the Huskies
and then almost beat Ole Miss and Virginia. I mean,
the Cougs are better than their record. They are better
than their record, and for one day, I'll root for
him this Saturday.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
H Yeah, No, you're not rooting for him. You're not
root for the Cooks. You're just doing what I do.
When it comes to the Huskies in Oregon, in the
Apple Cup, in Toronto and Seattle. That either way you're
a winner. Either A they lose it home to Toledo
or B you got a factor fiction pick in your
back pocket. So what's the line again?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Plus one and a half.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Hubs are getting plus one and a half at home
against Toledo on Saturday.
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take the Coobs a week ago, and you talk me
out of it, and they almost won the freaking game again,
by the way, So against virgin maybe they're just a
covering machine.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
They could be.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Hey, look, as long as it keeps making the money
and keeps working, what the hell man go for it?
So I mean you got less animosity I think towards
them now because they're really not even really a factor anymore.
You know, it stinks and you hate too well. I
was gonna say I hate to admit it, but I
really don't. In some ways, they're at a different conference now,
so you just don't have that that you used to
have back in the day.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I remember, I still have a wife that's a Coops
that is happy wife happy.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
She literally is a cougar and she graduated from Washoo.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
At the same time, we're gonna break Coobs plus the
one and a half correct plus the one and a
half against Toledo is the play Get the Picks in
Now Factor fiction to four nine, four to five one.
Jerry Depoto, Jerry Depoto, Mariner President baseball Operations, spoke today
along with Dan Wilson, Justin Hollander. I wonder if Paul
Morder would tell those guys to get over it. Two
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days after losing to Toronto in Game seven of the Alcs.
We're gonna hear from an emotional Jerry Depoto next on
ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
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Speaker 2 (24:38):
All right, so today over at T Mobile Park, Jerry Depoto,
Justin Hollander, Dan Wilson all met in I guess like
separate media scrums. It was not like a podium style setting.
I had a little deal today with the assembled Mariner
media at T Mobile earlier this morning and wanted to
just play a few minutes of Jerry Depoto meeting with
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the media, giving us kind of a little bit of
an insight to kind of how he's doing after after
Monday's loss. His his emotional states and how he's dealing with,
let's face it, I assume for him the most heartbreaking
loss of his career as a baseball executive.
Speaker 9 (25:16):
You know, a number of friends who do what I
do for a living suggested, you know that it might
be wise just to take a week or so and
and not think about baseball. And but it's probably not
our nature. We'll we'll get back after it next week
and start working at it. But you know, for now,
mostly just you know, replaying just like everybody else, our fans,
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replaying a variety of different you know, events in our heads.
And you know, we'll we'll probably I will see George
Bringer on the ceiling of by Sleep for years to come.
It's as he's tormented us for years, and you know,
but again, really proud of what we've been able to accomplish,
you know, in the big picture this year, and looking
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forward to to get to work to put together a
good team again for next year.
Speaker 10 (26:02):
The moves you made at the trade deadline clearly made
a difference obviously Josh and Geno and down the stretch
of the playoffs. How much of a priority is bringing
we'll start with Josh back next.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
Year, Yeah, obviously it's priority, and you know, we will
take a step back from where we are before we
truly assass and we'll communicate with the players before we
say anything publicly. But you know, we're we're still, like
I said, in grief mode and so were they. But
loved every minute with those guys and with others who
are pending free agents or potentially pending free agents. And
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you know, we've obviously been in planning mode and competitive
mode and trying to put together plans and rosters to
win games. And you know, we've discussed twenty twenty six
and beyond and we do that fairly regularly, so it's
not going to sneak up on us, but it is
appropriate to communicate with those guys before we do.
Speaker 10 (26:54):
A publicly mentioned discussions about plans for twenty twenty six.
What do you anticipate the EROL to be next year
similar to this year?
Speaker 11 (27:00):
Would?
Speaker 9 (27:00):
I would say similar to where we ended the year,
you know, as a starting point. So you know, we
ended the season I think with the second highest our
highest payroll that we've ever had as a franchise. And
this was always the goal was to methodically build toward
what we were doing and you know, I'm comfortable that
the resources that we're given, we're gonna have every ability
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to go out and put together a championship quality team.
And like we have in recent years, when we get
into the right position, I'm certain that we will be
aggressive and doing the next thing.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Does that included the deadline?
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Will you be able to do that too next year?
Speaker 9 (27:35):
You know, we've always been able to do that. It's
a if I look back over these last five years,
you know, it's we tend to just monitor where we are,
and then in seasons like twenty two and twenty four
and twenty five, we lean in and a lot of
our team I said this toward the end. There was
a point in September this year where eleven of our
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twenty six active players were acquired a trade deadline trades. So,
you know, in one way the other, we've always been
a very active team in general, but particularly active at
the trade deadline. And you know, and that's where that's
where Nails and Gino and Randy and the Rock and
I could go on Mooney and Brash, they all came
from that time on the clock somewhere in the last
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five years. So we're in and you know, and if
it means you're acquiring you know, real earners, guys like
Gino or Josh or Louis Castillo or Randy. You know,
I think we've been in that boat for a while now,
and the commitment that we get from ownership is real.
And you know, this year, the uniqueness was that we
added two of those types of players, and I think
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it shocked people. But you know, we have the support
of our ownership group and they've always been open to
us pushing in.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
If you could use one word or phrase to wrap
up this season, I know I'm putting you on the
spot with that question, but how do you feel right now?
Speaker 9 (28:54):
I mean I'm gonna have a different word now than
I'll have in a couple of weeks, you know, but disappointed.
Disappointed and I know everybody else is too. It's no.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Disappoint I love it.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I mean, there's been times where I haven't agree with Jerry,
and I've been maybe a critical of Jerry and all that.
You guys know that, but not now. I mean that's
as a fan. Look, I mean, the off season is
gonna come. We'll figure it out. You know, what does
Stanton provide for him, you know, blah blah blah. Right,
we'll get to that when we get to that. But
what I want as a fan, besides the obvious, is
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to win as much as you can. Is sure that
you care as much as I do, Sure that you're
bothered by this as much as I am. And I
think sometimes franchises don't do a good job of conveying
that message to their fan base, either because they don't
know how or be they don't feel that way right.
They look at it as more of a business and
an entity than the uh, you know, caretakers of something
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that's beloved to a lot of people. And hearing the
Poto get emotion like that, it's awesome. I love it.
I've been waiting for that for a long time out
of him, I think it's great. I'm sorry it took
this to get that out of him on Monday night,
but good for him. And he's exactly right, Dick about
the deadline, the moves they've made. You know, what you
want is for them to build the best possible team
that they can over the offseason, and then when things
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inevitably don't work, then they fill in the blanks at
the deadline at the end of July. But hey, you know,
does it make me feel better about Monday?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Now? Do I appreciate what I just heard out of Jerry? Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, because he's always been so calculated, almost robotic in
the way he answers these questions. So I think it's
very refreshing to hear him choke up a little bit.
And it was a great question as well.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, good job in a Jess but way. It made
him pry Jess way to go.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Yes, I still think that, you know, Josh Naylor is
priority number one, two, and three for this baseball team. However,
if you end up resigning Josh Naylor, that's probably going
to be it could be he's gonna take up twenty
million dollars a year and that's probably going to be it.
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So you're gonna have to rely on the Ben Williamsons
and the Harry Fords, and you're gonna have to rely
on all these young kids to fill in these spots,
because if you do bring Josh Naylor back, I don't
think they're bringing any other free agent.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, yeah, over the offseason. I mean it's possible.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
You know, they did say that their payroll is going
to start the year where they ended the year, which
you know includes a third of Josh Naylor's salary. Obviously,
au Hanio, I don't think it's coming back. You'll be
off the bucks. You're saving money on Garver. You know,
Polacko's got a player option for eight million. We'll see
what the market looks like for him and what he
decides to do, obviously, but yeah, I mean that could
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be their biggest ticket, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I mean, they're It's like you got.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Almost way more confidence in them at the end of
July than you do in November.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
To make the baseball still better. Well, that's been right.
I mean I think by now we should know that.
That's whether we like it or not.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
That's theirm it. So if you think you're going to
bring Josh Naylor in and another big name piece.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, you're crazy. Well here's what I want them to do.
I want them to do both. I want them to
make the team better at the deadline when they need
to be made better, and I want them to give
them the best shot they can to build the best
roster they can going into April. And if they can
do both those things, then who knows.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I mean, it puts pressure on the baseball team to
be good by July. Right, you can't be mediocre in
July because we see what happens what Jerry does. If
you're five hundred on July thirty first.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
He bails out, he bails out, bails out.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
You've got to be good on July thirty first for
him being investing.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Well, I just again, you know, last year was last
year with a route with Tellez at first and Polanko
who was deficient at third base defensively, Let's just not
do that again, right, Let's let's go into this year
with a team that we think is really really good now.
It won't be really really good in July because they're
really really good now. Then let's make it even better
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Speaker 1 (33:38):
Did how about that?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
We got to get Mike Hombran's take on that. By
the way, rig poker games funded by the mafia.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Apparently they were wearing like these.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
X ray glasses and special content X ray tables so they.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Could see it really hard.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
And the car, Mike, just when you think the world's
getting crazy, it gets even crazier.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
My friend, how you doing, man.
Speaker 11 (33:57):
I'm doing good and I will tell you this. Uh,
playing in poking games was really fun in college? Did
it in college? Did it? Did it? Did it? When
we were at bau Co coaches and we get some
guys at night, But uh it was it wasn't rigged
and there wasn't piles of money floating or out. Why goodness,
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that was a story.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Oh, coach, let's take it to the NFL. How concerned
should we be about NFL players NFL what about NFL
offensive coordinators calling plays? How should we be how rigged?
Or concerns would be about those guys rigging games?
Speaker 11 (34:36):
Uh, you know what, I would trust that wouldn't happen.
But you know, when this, there was a time when
I first got into it, I couldn't even if I
went to Las Vegas or Lake Tahoa or someplace, I
couldn't even walk into a sportsbook. I couldn't. And so
the thing is, you guys, well know, it's really changed.
And I thought when it changed, I thought there was
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a chance the thing was to get off the rails
just a little bit. And if this is any indication
of oh, this is bad, though, this is really bad.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, Well, I mean Billips is if he doesn't turn
over Benny bats and Tommy two fingers, he's going to
prison man and maybe for a long time. So crazy
story down there in Portland, no doubt about it. But
Mike speaking a crazy at game time. Actually, around five
point thirty on Monday night before the Seahawks and Texans played,
it was fifty dollars to get in the door for
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the Seahawk Texan game because the Mariners were playing in
Game seven of the Alcs at the exact same time,
So I don't even know. I mean, I haven't seen
any ratings from the game on Monday.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Dick.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You were there and you said there were some open seats.
It was obvious there were open seats in the stadium
on Monday. I mean, you know, do the players feel
that because there was a point, there was a part
of the game of Monday that kind of was a
little sloppy from a Seahawk perspective, and I wonder if
that kind of rubbed off on him indirectly.
Speaker 11 (35:57):
You know what. And that's a good, good thought, good question,
because it's different when you don't have I don't know,
you know, it's hard for me to under believe that
you didn't have a lot of noise in the normal
stuff in the stadium. But I remember playing in some stadiums,
and Saint Louis was the worst that I can remember
in the first half, and we were the visiting team
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saying upstairs, it's weird down here. Can you guys hear
anything up there? This is really different, and I think
it affects people. It certainly affected me, and it affected
the players. I think a little bit, but you know
what I'm with you day one the Mariners listen, that
was history having a chance to really be something, and
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the fact that they got there and this city and
how they backed the Mariners and those fans that are
baseball fans and they're there all the time. Yeah. I
was going back and forth and Kathy couldn't even watch
the game. She gets, she gets, you know, it's get
stressed out, and so it was special. I I it
doesn't surprise me that it took some of the stuff,
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some of the adventure out of the Seahawk game.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Well, maybe the most bizarre play of the game was
Sam Donald fumbling in his own end zone for a touchdown.
I would love to get your take of what your
face would look like and what the conversation would be
like when Sam Donald walked through the sidelines, and would
you go up to him and talk to him or
would you leave him alone on a play after a
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play like that.
Speaker 11 (37:30):
I probably shouldn't go up to him, but I think
I would have, And I was thinking about, actually, I
was thinking about how would I handle this Because you
guys like to ask me these questions when I get
fired up, But you know, I would probably say, you're
kidding me, aren't you? What did I just see? What
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did I just see you do? And trying to get
him to you know, okay, I learned a lot. I
learned a lot from Bill Walstill when he Joe Montana
or Steve where somebody would do something crazy on the
field and he'd be randy. He'd be ranting on the
phone with me. Guy, I'd be in the you know,
I discream it and then the player to come over
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to him and he goes, how's it going out there
and kind of calm things down. He'd never I go,
why does he talk to the Why is he yelling
at me?
Speaker 6 (38:21):
I'm not out there playing right?
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Well?
Speaker 2 (38:24):
He's one of the weirdest things from the game Monday
is the referee keeping Jackson Smith and Jigbuff from getting
his ass kicked by a plethora of Houston Texan players
on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Did you see that? And have you ever seen.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
A referee protect a player like that from the opposing team?
Speaker 11 (38:41):
Never? Never seen it? No, And then he was no,
I you know, I don't think he would have escalated
because he's you know, he's not a big, big guy,
and you know, but the fact that he hopped in
there and and did that. I was impressed. Maybe maybe
they're coming around. I wish they would handle their calls
like they'd handle that. I mean, because she whiz that.
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I think the officiating this year is is they're not
They're not getting good grades. I will say that, why.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Do you think? Well, I was gonna ask you something else,
but why do you think that is?
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I mean, why do you, like, do you think the
officiating is worse this year than it's been in a while?
And if so, why do you what do you attribute
that to?
Speaker 11 (39:21):
Well? I think it is. I I'm watching games and
I said, yeah, I wouldn't call that, you know, interference
or you know they're they're I think they're calling the
game tighter. I always was worried about you know, they
come into the meet with the coaches before the game
and they go okay, And then now you'd have some
questions or some you might have something like, I some team,
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would you know they they do lineup all sides on defense?
This team they do it all the time. It's never called.
Would you watch that plays? Or I'd say a couple
of things nicely to them. Okay, then you know what
would happen. What would happen is I'd get called for
that turning game that was the play I go with
a minute, I talk to you about there they doing that.
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I'm not me, you know, and so but I just
think it's it's a little picky picky right now and
too many calls, too many officiating calls, and they have
a tendency to adjust those during the season if it's
happening too much, which is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Coach, You've had a lot of different quarterbacks on the
scale of risk taking, the less risk guys. Of course,
Brett probably the most risk guy, and everywhere in between.
Where is Sam Darnold's on that list, because it does
seem like he likes to push the envelope and sometimes
it is a great ball and sometimes it gets picked off.
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He is he the type of risk taker you like
or is he more risky than you'd like?
Speaker 11 (40:44):
Well? Right now, well, I think, first of all, I
like him, you know that. And then I think he's
having I think he's off to a great start. I
think this team is doing well, you know, But I
would say this to your point, you know, it's it's yeah,
he throws some pass. Is that you know, he's been
so good and then all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Why.
Speaker 11 (41:06):
Do you do that? You know, in my mind, why
did you do that? And so I think there's some
work there, there's some man he knows that. The thing
another thing I like about the young man and he
seems to know that. You know, he puts it on
the South and the guys that are willing to change,
and I go back to far if he's willing to change. Finally,
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before I died, you know that. You know, I think
Sam does that. He works hard at doing that.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Well, Mike Comengrin's with us, and Mike, I got to
ask you about Jackson Smith and Jigba. He's on pace
for one hundred and seventy targets, which I think is
like thirty more than DK metcalf ever got when he
was here in Seattle. Would have been number two in
the NFL a year ago, number three in the NFL
two years ago. So he's up there in receptions, in targets.
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And I guess my question to you, unless another receiver
steps up and really starts to compliment him, and maybe
Cooper's doing enough.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Maybe you think he's doing enough. Now can this continue?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Like can they continue to just force feed this guy,
and how come defenses aren't doing a better job of
taking him away.
Speaker 11 (42:13):
Well, I think that's the question, Dave. I think when
you look at them, I don't think they're force feeding him.
I just think for some reason, defenses are not covering
him the way they should. You know, I mean, he is.
You're playing the Seahawks, you better take my thing. I'd
go into the defensive room and I'd say, Okay, I'm
not going to tell you how to run your defense
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and everything, but one thing I want to see. I
want to see good coverage on this guy. I want
to see him bumped at the line of scrimmage. He
is killing people. And right now he's seen way too
many balls and he's open. Is a lot of them
aren't close. They're good throws, but a lot of times
he's wide open, and so it's a little bit of
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a puzzle. But I don't think. I just think that
he First of all, he's really good. I mean, he's
really good. And then I don't think that you're going
to see much change during the course of the season
unless teams say we're not. He's not going to beat us.
He is not going to beat us.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
How good can this defense be this year? Coach?
Speaker 11 (43:14):
I think, you know what, I think they're really good.
They they and they could be even better, you know
when they get It's amazing to me again that you know,
two of their best defensive players did not play, you know,
could not play because of injury, and they still did
a great job. And the defensive line is allowing them,
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allowing the defense to just just go nuts. I mean
that they really are good on defense. And give credit
to the head coach. That's his deal.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Hey, I know you're not on social media a lot.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
I'm not totally convinced that you don't have a couple
of secret burner accounts on Twitter.
Speaker 11 (43:55):
By the way, before you what's Twitter?
Speaker 1 (44:00):
You know what a burner account is?
Speaker 11 (44:01):
By the way, No, I don't know a burner account.
I don't know what Twitter is.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
To keep calling, well, did you see what Russell Wilson
did to Sean Payton or said to Sean Payton?
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I don't know if you caught this or I did?
Speaker 11 (44:13):
Yeah, I read I read about you.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, Sean Payton telling Brian Dable he wishes they would
have saved Jackson Dart until their game with the Broncos
was over, which is an indirect shot at Russell Wilson
saying we'd rather see Russell Wilson than Jackson Dart and
you know, to paraphrase, Russell Wilson goes on Twitter and
says up yours to Sean Payton, which I thought was great,
and it's like, my gut, where's that bit from Russell?
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For fifteen years? So Peyton says he didn't mean it
as a slight to Russell. Do you believe him when
he said that, not.
Speaker 11 (44:42):
One not one bit. I think I think he believed
I know Sean and you know what, but I will
say this coaches. You you you talked to the opposing
coaches and they had worked together at one time, so
they knew each other. So there are things that come out.
I'm surprised they got out in the open. I don't
know how that happened, you know, but but you know, I.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Mean surprising he said that Peyton public.
Speaker 12 (45:06):
Yeah, he had his press conference or saying yes, well,
well you know, uh gee, you know what, but Russell,
I don't I don't blame Russell Wilson at all.
Speaker 11 (45:20):
He you know, he I think he really wanted to Russell.
You know, you guys know Russell, He's he wants to
do well. He wants to be the star of the
show and have people love him and all that, and
it didn't work out in Denver, and so it still
sticks with him. He didn't forget that stuff. So when
the head coach comes out and blast you a little
bit or just throws a little slant at you, you know,
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of course you're going to react. I thought it was
kind of well, it didn't surprise It surprised me a
little bit because he's so careful, Russell, so careful and
how he how he.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
He talks coach. There's a small handful of teams vying
for the biggest disasters in the world of sports, and
the Jets are one of them. They're zero and seven
and Aaron Glenn's probably on his way out, but he
says he's not naming a starting quarterback this week. Why
because he doesn't want to reveal his secrets to the Bengals.
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Is that is that a savvy move or is that
just kind of meaningless?
Speaker 11 (46:18):
I think it's kind of meaningless, you know, I mean,
his his h if there is a if that was
if you had Reggie White or Lawrence Taylor or someone
like that, and you weren't sure if that person was
going to play, and you know you had that guy's
a difference maker. Then then you say, okay, you might
you might get a little cute with that, but no,
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that doesn't mean anything. The other team goes about it,
I don't We don't care who plays quarterback. We see
what's on film and then that's the guy we're going
to go against. But uh, you know the Jets, you know,
and you're right there. I don't think you know Aaron Glenn.
I don't know Aaron that well, but he you know.
I'm opposed to owners firing coaches after one year. I
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don't like that. I don't think that's I don't think
that's fair at all, you know, because there's a lot
of reasons teams, you know, have a season like this,
and so it's not all a coach. But we'll see
what happens.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Well, did what did Johnson try to hire you with
the Jets? Or was it somebody else that own the team?
Speaker 11 (47:21):
Then no, it was Woody Johnson.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
What he what he said about justin Fields? No, he
said he said about justin fields. If we can just
complete a pass, it would look pretty good. This is
the owner of the Jets. So you just say you
don't like owners firing coaches. How about owners ripping their
quarterbacks they decided to make their starters over the offseason.
Speaker 11 (47:44):
Oh no, that's you know, yeah, that's but you know, owners,
I was talking to somebody today. Owners. There are owners
that help you, They really help you. Paul Allen helped me.
You know, Eddie de Barlow with the forty nine ers.
I didn't have an owner in Green Bay, so Ron
(48:04):
Wolf helped me. You know, there are some owners that
don't help you. They decide to they involved themselves in
the football thing too much, and they want a draft.
They lean towards players in the draft, and you just go, okay,
but ye Wood, he you know what I almost went.
I almost went, I will be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah, Well, good thing you didn't, Mike. We got to run.
We're up against the clock for hockey. Great stuff. Hope
you feel better and hope to see you in a week.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
All right, man, coach, all right, but thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
All right, man, Mike homeran with us on the radio show. Yeah,
you think your team's a disaster. Just go look at
the Jets and the meadow lands and how bad they've
been for as long as they've been.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Hey, we got cracking hockey.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Speaking of the Jets, here we go win a peg
and a boys boys looking for a win snapping a
little two game losing streak here from Winnipeg, Mike Benton
Everett fits you big, al Kaniski Baby. We'll take you
the rest of the way and we'll talk to tomorrow
three o'clock right here on ninety three three kJ RFN big.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Thanks for the five twenty four and grill bye.
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