October 24, 2025 • 28 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain discuss the Seahawks season with Sam Darnold shining right now then hear from Huskies Head Coach Jedd Fisch.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jed Fish.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
We're gonna hear a little bit from him, a little
conversation we had yesterday before this game tomorrow with the
Aliini that's coming up four thirty. John Wilner will join
at six pm to night. Brian Schmetz, you're gonna hang
on or hop on and say hi as well out
about five forty five tonight. So we got a little
audio here we're gonna play for you. Courtesy of Amazon.
Last night's Thursday night game Chargers Minnesota. Don't you know
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which the Vikings just looked terrible? Was Carson Wentz crying
during that game yesterday? It was what was going on?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I don't know if he was in pain, slash disappointed,
slash disgusted.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It was all, Yeah, he looked very twelve year old issue. Yeah, well,
I'm blaming behind that offensive line, and I'm blaming. I
did see a picture though, somebody sent out last night
that had showed Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones and Viking
uniforms at the end of last year. Reminded me that
they did have both those guys on their roster a
year ago. And I don't know, man, I feel like
we should like send them something you know, like just
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to numb the pain.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I mean, they let him both walk in.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, but I just kind of feel like, you know what,
here's a box of candy or something or whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
You and I sat in the Emerald Queen Casino in
August and said, you're really going with JJ McCarthy, okay,
and we went to the window and said, give me
the under on the nine and a half wins.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Well, you know it's just been it's too easy.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
It is too easy. I don't I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I feel bad for them a little bit that they
because it's one thing to have terrible quarterback play. It's
another to have terrible quarterback play and then know that
you had maybe two of the top five quarterbacks in
the NFL right now on your roster last year.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I just feel like, you know, if you're gonna be
kind of the sports guys, maybe we should just throw
them a bouquet or something just to say we're starting.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
An edible arrangement.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, what I mean, anything.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
We could offer Sam Darnold for their next four first
round draft pick? Would you do that for four first
round draft picks?
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I did that?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Would you really for four first round picks, yes, I
would two, No, four, Yes, I think three is the
number where three is probably that it becomes interesting. Well,
technically the NFL only allows you to trade three of them.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Then we have this conversation with a couple of years ago.
But why I live in reality? That's a good question,
because here would be my reason why I would not
do it. Of those four first rounders, they're likely if
Minnesota continues on this path, going to be fairly high picks. Ye, okay,
Now you could package them, maybe there's a quarterback coming up,
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or a defensive end whatever, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But are you more apt to find.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
More long term success if you hang on to Sam
Darnald who's twenty eight?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Is that right? How about Sam Darnal twenty eight years old?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So the way Sam Donald is playing right now, he
is trending early in a Seahawk career towards getting another
contract from the Hawks. Is that fair to say he's
trending right now? That could change in two months from now.
Maybe next year you'll feel different. But he's twenty eight
years old. Are you more apt to find long term
success for the next five six years if you hang
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on to that quarterback or dump him for four draft picks,
which every single one of them may turn out to
be a bum, or three of the four may turn
out to be a bum.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I don't know if I would do that, Dick.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
If you're convinced that Sam Donald is the quarterback of
the future and every team in the NFL is fighting
like mad to find a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I mean, for me, there's only like three players on
the planet I wouldn't trade for four draft picks, four
number one draft picks, and Sam Darnald's not one of them. Okay, dude,
I'm just telling you, man, I mean four first round
draft picks.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
He upsets you, up sets you up both with.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Talent and financially for a half a decade. But you
still have to find the quarterback to make it all work. Yes,
you do, So what good is it if you don't
have the quarterback. Look, I'm not saying I would not
do it, but you got to admit that there's logic
and saying no. Mean, if you have found the most
important piece to winning in the NFL, and you found
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him at the age of twenty eight, is.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
He the most important piece for the Seahawks winning Sam
Donald defense and their coach defense marriage. I think if
you want to win a title, you gotta have both, right, But.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
We don't know if Sam Donald is the quarterback that
will win us a title.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
We know the Sam Donald's a quarterback that is good
enough to get us to the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I think if you've got an elite defense and you've
got Sam Donald playing quarterback for you, you can win a
championship if he's playing this way, if he continues this.
Speaker 7 (04:25):
So let me just ask this question. Where are the
massive Seahawks holes right now? Where are the holes in
this team where you could say, okay, a first round
X person, right guy, right right guard, center number two?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, yeah, I mean I can get by with Sundal
for now. I'd like an upgrade, but I can get
by with Sundal for now. Right guard for sure. You're
not drafting a right guard with a number one first
round draft pick. I don't think you'll work edge rusher
left guard edge rusher for sure. I think you could
use an edge rusher, lineback, number two, wide receiver, you
could use behind JSN.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
I'm hearing a lot of the words, and I would
agree with you.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
That we could use, that we could use that you're
not like massive holes on the team. I don't think
so in that conversation. If you don't have massive holes
that you need four first round picks for, then you
don't do the deal because you can get that in
the next draft of the next couple of drafts, and
you don't need to mortgage the quarterback. Now, listen, four
is an insane number. I would go four. Three is
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the one where I kind of say.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I mean, just think if we would have had this
conversation three months ago.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Sam's been that far, of course, but Sam hasn't been
any better than he was last year. And that's what
everybody's point was, like, Oh, Sam was only good because
he was in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Well maybe he's.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Not, because you say everybody, everybody outside of Seattle that
we talked about the Vegas odds, and we talked about
the line it was where it was because the rest
of the dumb country.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I didn't think that Sam Donald was good.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I don't think I ever said that.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well I did say that, but I also know that
my biggest concern about Sam Donald is he a flash
in the pan and can he do it again? And
now he's doing it again. This is now seven games
where he doing it again. So I am way more
convinced today that Sam Darnold has arrived than I was
than I was at the end of last season with Minnesota,
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because now he's backing it up and he's backing it
up in Seattle. So I gotta tell you, man, if
you came to me and said you can have four
first round draft picks that may or may not payan out,
you're still gonna have to go out and find your quarterback,
which is the most important piece to winning in the NFL. Look,
you're right, Dick. This team could win because of their defense,
but their defense is going to have to be elite
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to win without a quarterback. I mean, Russell Wilson was
not a world beater when he was here, but he
was still pretty damn good. He was a top third
of the NFL, don't you think quarterback when in twenty thirteen,
top ten, top twelve quarterback maybe in the NFL right
around there.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But they also had an elite running game. Elite running game.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
So unless you feel convinced that you can find an
elite defense like a world class defense and an elite
running game, then yes, eventually it's going to probably come
back to having to have a star at quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I don't know if I would do it.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I mean I would think if we put it out
to the audience, I'm sure I would think more people
would rather have four first round draft That's.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Fine, But I'm not saying that's right. I'm just I'm
telling you what I think. I mean, four is just okay,
then you need a quarterback. I then go find a quarterback.
We didn't have a quarterback four months, six months ago.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
I mean, I think three is the number to debate.
Four is insane. But I think I think the masses
if we put a pull out there saying right now,
when you trade Sam Donald for three first round draft picks,
I think that would be.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
More like sixty thirty.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yes, it's closer than this way close to phrase this
pull right, I don't think it's one hundred percent that.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And again I'm not saying no, I'm just saying that
this idea.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
They're like, yeah, I mean there's I don't think I
can get there that fast because I am giving up.
I am giving up the number one thing that you
need to have in the NFL. Traditionally, to have success,
and that would make me massively nervous to walk away
from that guy. If he's as good as we think
he is, it would make me really nervous to walk away.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Again, I would say that there are not that many
major holes to fill. You can fill the holes over
these next couple of drafts, and given that you don't
need those first round draft picks to go win a
Super Bowl, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
At the same time, four is an insane number. Three.
I'm on the fence about three.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Is this a fair is a fair way to phrase this?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
At five o'clock? You think that is a fair way
to phrase this? Pole I would not trade Sam Donald
unless I got this many first round.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Picks one, two, three or four.
Speaker 8 (08:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
I like it.
Speaker 9 (08:40):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I mean, first of all, I don't even we should.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You're gonna hear from people that are asking, why is
this a topic to the show? The guy is one
of the top quarterbacks in the NFL and you want
to get rid of him.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Well, no, he was wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I think most people that would We just went from
Geno Smith that after seven games of Sam Donald validating
everything they did over the offseason.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Now you want to move on.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Twitter is gonna because.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I think Paul Moyer is gonna kill you. We gotta
tell you to get over it.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I think this is gonna show how much more Seahawks
fans value Sam Donald today than they did the day
we got him, because I remember the day we got him.
The three of us were excited. But I think there
was a collective throughout the city when we got Sam absolutely,
and now I.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Don't think there's a collective meth anymore.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
I feel was med.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
It was questioning like, okay, are we sure? Like because
I mean, keep in mind, once the details of the
contract came out, it's such a team friendly deal that
once that came out, everybody was like, all right, great
prove it.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
And boy he's proven. Well, I thought it was an
upgrade over Gino Smith. I didn't think it was gonna
be this big of an upgrade over Gino Smith. Well
that's partially dine, I mean too yeah, but still, Sam
Donald is number six in the NFL and QBR. And
where's Gino at is? He's twenty ninth. Sam Donald is
number six, Gino is twenty ninth in the NFL. His
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QBR rating is more than double what Geno Smith is
so you're right, part of its Geno falling apart. But
I mean, you would have been happy if Sam Donald
was tenth in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
How do you think this happening that is top six?
Because you want to trade him?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Don't you want to get rid of him for unknown booms?
He's wrong with you.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
I don't want to trade him or first John drop Pick.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
By the way, how bad do you think Russell Wilson
fills right now? He's got a worse QBR than Geno
Smith does? God, why is this happening now?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Because remember when we were talking about it with Geno Smith,
we were like, God, this hasn't happened since, like Jim Plunkett,
A rich Gannon, like, why all of a sudden in
a five year span?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Is there?
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Geno Smith?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Baker Mayfield, right, Sam Donald, Daniel Jones? Like why all
of a sudden a reclamation projects hitting for like twenty
five years?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Who's next? We talked about this a couple of weeks ago.
I thought out there, maybe Mariota, who was next, might start,
you know, his next the guy at San Francisco's probably
Mac Jones. Mac Jones, he might be next, but he
didn't have the long career that Darnold and Baker Mayfield
and Daniel Jones had. Those guys had to wait like
seven years. That's right, right, Mac Jones is still on
his original rookie deal. Is he not from Alabama?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So I don't know. I mean, you're right.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
There is a there's a massive reclamation wave going through
the NFL of all these I mean, hew, Joe Flacco
looked great, you know for Cincinnati. There's this massive wreck,
this title wave of reclamation projects that are taking over
the NFL. And I guarant freaking to you, guarantee you
we can sit here and talk cabab me one about
who the next guy is. There's gms out there who
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are trying to figure that out right now. They're looking
at rosters and they're looking at backup quarterbacks and third
string quarterbacks and they're trying to figure out who was
in the wrong system. How about this for a name
of a guy that could be rejuvenated somewhere else. How
about two with tongue of Iloa. If you have gets
out of Miami. Now he's making fifty million dollars a year,
I get that, But if he ever gets a brand
new coach and gets into a different system and away
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from that weirdo in Miami and he goes in places
for somebody else.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Who knows what to Tungavailoa could be all about.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
You, guys want to feel old mac Jones is actually
in his fifth year in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, it seems like he was like a rookie like
last Tuesday. But he was a first round draft pick, right,
mac Jones? So he's on his fifth year option. No, No,
we have a free agent deal with somebody else.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Is that correct? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
He was a Patriot for the first three years and
then he went to Jacksonville and San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I think the Patriots declined his options.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
They may have what they may have. Look, guys, here's
the deal. I'm just saying this. Draft picks are nice.
Draft picks are awesome. First round draft picks are even better.
The money you save versus veterans is cool. But if
you have found a quarterback, you are already winning. You
are already so far in front of the curve. And
to give that guy up. If you think that Sam
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Darnold is going to be here for six or seven
years into his mid thirties, Dick the starting quarterback for
the Seahawks and give them a top tier quarterback for
the next.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Half decade or whatever. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
What you can trade him for that would give you
what he's giving you right now. So I'm gonna well,
we'll ask you at five what he thinks about this.
But Richard Sherman, sorry, I wanted to get to this
audio was on Prime last night talking about the Seahawks
and he believes they might be actually a contender in
the NFC.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
I think the Seattle Seahawks are Super Bowl contenders. You
lie in.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
I think they have one of.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
The best defenses in the National Football League and d
line with a lot of death. You got Byron Murphy,
you got DeMarcus Lawrence, you got Leonard Williams, they keep
coming in ways. And then you've got one of the
best receivers, if not the best receiver in the National
Football League, and Jackson Smith and Jig but you got
Sam Darner, who the Minnesota Vikings are wishing they had
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right now. And I just can't see a world that
this team isn't getting better.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Get So, the Seahawks have the third best point differential
in the NFC, right now at plus fifty seven. Some
of that's aided by the Saint game, obviously, but you
know the Rams have a different point differential of plus
fifty eight, and they've got some blowouts as well, including
the Jaguars this last weekend thirty five to seven.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Look, I agree with them. I think they are a contender.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
The issue for me is, I think there's probably six
or seven contenders in the NFC, if not maybe five
or six contenders in the NFC. I think the Niners
still are a contender, The Rams are a contender, The
Lions are a contender. Philadelphia is a contender. Who in
the NFC Central would be a contender? Excuse me, the
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NFC South would be a contender. Tampa Bay's a contender.
That's six teams I name right there. I think it's
wide freaking open. So yes, I do think they are
a contender. But I also think it's like the Mariners,
this thing is opened for the taking.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well. As I mentioned last week, the Seahawks number one
in DVOA, only the eighth team in the Super Bowl
Area to rank in the top five in all three
phases after the first six games. And you wanted me
to do a little research on what that meant, right,
So I looked at the end of the regular season
top five in DVA after twenty twenty one, twenty two,
twenty three, and twenty four, all four Super Bowl champs
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were top five DVOA teams, six of the eight Super
Bowl participants, six of the eight one seeds, and six
of the eight two seeds.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
So it while it's not the end all be all.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
For example, like the Packers were a seven seed last
year and they were a top five DVOA team. But
if you're a top five DVOA team, you're probably not
losing in the first round of the playoffs. You were
at least going to the NFC Championship Game if not
the If not the same, how many of those top.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Five dvo eight teams had to go on the road
for the wildcard round?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
The Hawks are going right now?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, I can tell you the seeds. Last year, the
Ravens were the three seed. Okay, they were number one DVOA.
The Eagles won the Super Bowl, they were the number
two dvway. Lions were third, they lost at home in
the playoffs. Vikings were fourth, they lost in the first round,
and the Packers what they do in the first round
the Packers winner loser first game out.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Of the Packers.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So I think three of those four teams you mentioned
so far all had home field.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
All at home field.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yes, most of them are having the first round because
most of them are one one in two seats.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Green Bay lost to Philadelphia by the way on the road,
So yeah, I just think it's a little bit of
an equalizer when you have to go on the road,
you know. I mean, look, the Hawks winning the NFC
West would be huge. That's why that lost to San
Francisco Week one right now stings so badly because it
put them behind the eight ball. They've got to beat
the Niners, gotta beat them on the road in weeks.
I mean that that game could be the NFC West
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championship game in San Francisco right in week eighteen, could be.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I think the Rams are probably better than the forty
nine ers.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Well, we're gonna find out. We're gonna break. How about
that for analysis? By the way, we're gonna break, We're
gonna hear from Jed fish Husky coach, what does he
make of all the rumors flying around about the UCLA
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before tomorrow's game with Illinois. Lots of topics the Michigan game,
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how do you get Jonah Coleman going?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And what about all these.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Kind of rumors going around and his name associated with
UCLA and floworda all that. Here's my conversation with Jed
Fish before tomorrow's game with the.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
ALAINI let's kind of start with I've always thought it
it's easier for players and coaches to get over losses
versus fans because you guys are in it. You guys
can do something about this. You know, the game Saturday,
the Mariner game on Monday. You sit around all week
just thinking about stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
How do you do that?
Speaker 8 (18:24):
How do you get over losses?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Or do you get over losses?
Speaker 8 (18:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (18:27):
I think it is definitely different because the fans have
to wait a week right before we get to play again.
We're Sunday at eleven. I was in Sunday at seven
thirty in the morning watching the film and grading the
film and getting ready to start moving my own brain
onto Illinois because you can't play the game twice. But yeah,
it's still challenging, it's still upsetting. You still look at
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things and like I wish this happened or I can't
believe that happened. But you know, we have to get
over it because it's our job to be able to
have a better performance the next week.
Speaker 9 (18:56):
Yeah, go back to that Michigan tape that you're watching
on Sunday morning. But what did you see that was
of the most importance that you've got to clean up
for this game Saturday.
Speaker 11 (19:07):
You know, pre snout penalties really cost us in tough
situations where we were in really good field position. So
we've got to clean that up. We you know, we
I believe that we got a little bit enamored with
the situation. I'm in the big house a little early,
and it was kind of our defense did a great
job getting an early stop, and then when we missed
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a field goal, I think there was a little bit
of a deflation and we gave up a touchdown there.
I think that, you know, the biggest thing for us
is to be able to make explosive plays on offense.
And if we're not making explosive plays on offense, it's
very hard to drive the length of the field, and
I feel like we just weren't able to get that done.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
Can you, honestly in reality do that with the current
state of your offensive line banged up like it is.
Speaker 11 (19:51):
Well, we certainly had some challenges, and I'll never make
excuses about anything.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
It's always more challenging to hold the ball a little
bit longer or to break or.
Speaker 11 (20:00):
Run when, especially in the second half, when you know,
we're playing with our third left tackle with when Max
went down and week in the second quarter or at
the end of the half, and then you know, we
still had to move some guys around, and Quentin Moore
is a huge part of what we try to do
as well, So there were some things that we had
to deal with, but you know, we got to make
it no matter what.
Speaker 9 (20:20):
Yeah, a lot of those names of the offensive line
are brand new names versus a year ago, and there
will be brand new names likely next year. Are the
days of seeing three four offensive lineman play two three
years together?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Are they over?
Speaker 8 (20:34):
I hope not.
Speaker 11 (20:35):
I mean, if you look at our team, I mean,
my hope is Drew as a Party is back next
year and that'll be his third year.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Is our right tackle? My hope and he's.
Speaker 11 (20:42):
Graded at ex feeling well land that hatchets back next year.
You you know, you look at John Mills, you know,
John Mills is only a freshman. You look at Poki
Fin now only a Redchid freshman. You look at some
of the guys that are coming in here. You know,
I think that we're going to be one of those programs.
I really hope that our fans do know our guys
and they are familiar with and in four years from now,
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Desmond Robot is a guy they're like, Wow, this guy's
played fifty something games and that would be super cool.
Speaker 9 (21:09):
Yeah, you mentioned the way you bounce back. How does
demand bounce back from a game like that?
Speaker 11 (21:14):
Yeah, I mean that was the most challenging game he's
had in his life if you look at it only
by a stat line, if you look at so many
of the plays that he did make. I tried to
point out him, like, it really wasn't that much different
than any other game that's been played, other than one
guy steps in front of a slant and you know,
we want to be on a miscommunication on a stick round,
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Like you got to think more like that. And I
think when we met and we talked and we spent
time together on Sunday for a while, I think that
hopefully helped him understand like it's really just a couple
of plays in every game, in every game, and it
sometimes the plays go your way and sometimes they don't,
and the key.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
Is really be able to go. And he's had a
really nice week of practice.
Speaker 9 (21:57):
It's obvious what Jonah brings to this team. And you
spoke Thursday at your press conference about how important he
is to the culture of the locker room.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
When I look though.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
At just the Big Ten stats and I see Joanah
Coleman thirteenth in the Big Ten and rushing three and
a half yards per game, it's almost shocking to see.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Numbers like that.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
So how do you fix that?
Speaker 9 (22:15):
What do you think's been kind of holding that running
game back, besides the offensive line being maybe a bit
banged up.
Speaker 11 (22:20):
Yeah, I think what happened was in the big tech
games we had, they've all kind of been unique in
its own way. Certainly, I felt that Oha State was
just a huge challenge to run the football on, and
we made some plays, and then I felt like against
Rutgers they gave us a lot of opportunities to run
them on. So we had a lot of called runs
for Demand and a few called runs for Jonah. And
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then against Maryland when the game got their twenty nothing,
it became one of those deals.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
So every game is different.
Speaker 11 (22:47):
You know, ideally we're always going to try to get
Jonah fifteen to twenty five carries a game. He had
sixteen this past week. We would have loved to have
a few more third down conversions that it would have
got him some more. And I think that he's also
at his healthiest that he's been.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
In a few weeks. So I hope to have a
good one on Saturday.
Speaker 9 (23:03):
What does this Illinois football team present that is kind
of unique versus what you've seen so far?
Speaker 11 (23:09):
You think, well, I think that it's another very good
football team that came off with ten wins that have
been built.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
To be a Big ten program.
Speaker 11 (23:15):
So they're big, and they're good pass rushers on defense,
and they fly around in their secondary, and offensively with Altmeyer,
they've really built a really good pro style offense. So
it's going to be a great challenge and we're going
to need our fans behind.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Us before you go.
Speaker 9 (23:30):
You and I were talking off vieir about I appreciate
that you'll take on any question from anybody. I'm not
expecting you to give me your credit card number if
I ask for it. If you want to, that's fine.
But I get a lot of people that come up
to me and say, Hey, Billy Napier just got fired.
I see Jed's name at UCLA.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Is Jed going to be here long term?
Speaker 9 (23:47):
Or is this a stepping stone job for him. When
you hear people say things like that, what's your response
to that?
Speaker 11 (23:52):
It's frustrating because it's things that like, I'm not I'm
not in control of that. I think it's a credit
to our players that we were playing well in year
two and people are noticing us. But that's it, That's
all it is to me. It's literally people are noticing
that Washington Husky football is a really good brand of program.
It's certainly not a stepping stone. And that alone is
what I just tell everybody that asks, like, I don't
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know what anyone's talking about other than rumors at innuendos,
and nothing has to do.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
With the truth.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, do you like it here? And more importantly, does
a wife like it here?
Speaker 8 (24:19):
I love it here. The wife's been at every game.
Speaker 11 (24:21):
She's on airplanes all the time to make sure my
kids and my wife don't miss a thing. And we
enjoy our summers tremendously here.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
So we love it all.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Right, man, go get them Saturday. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
Thanks. Go dogs.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
So you know, we live in an era where people
are more privy to information now than ever. Right, So
when amberfish is Jed's wife goes on Facebook or Instagram
and says she's moving back to Tucson to be with
the kids while they finish school. People's radars go up like, oh,
that's interesting. The coach's wife is not even living in
Seattle full time. So people will take that information and
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do what they want with it, obviously, And I think
the one thing that Jedfish is going to have to
fight for a lot of people as simple thirteen stops
since two thousand and two, end of story, right, And.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
He's admitted that. He said, Look, I've moved around a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
So there are people that will think that Jedfish is
only here as a necessary evil to take whatever next
step he wants to take for his college football career.
And I have come to grips with that, with the possibility,
Dick that he could leave and take off and go
somewhere else. I've also come to grips with the idea
that the roster could change every single year. So I'm
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trying not to focus on that. I'm trying to just
take every year as its own entity in college football
because right now, the way this whole thing is set up,
everything can change, and it can change overnight. And we
experience that with Kaylan, and we might experience it with
Jed who knows. But I will say this, if Washington
benefits from that, like we've benefited from Kaylan's shortstop, then
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so be it.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well. I think we're going to see a lot more
jedfishes in the future. He's not going to be as
much of an anomaly in twenty thirty as he is
now or even five years.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I mean a short time. Yes, totally.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I think every score already starts to see it. I
mean the day and age of you know, fifteen of
the top thirty programs in America keeping their coach for
double digit years, those are gone.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I agree, absolutely gone.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I thought it was so cool that signety Yes exactly,
and you know, the whole happy wife, happy life thing.
I mean, you could hear from him, she says, he
comes there. Yes, his wife like this, He said, she
gets on a plane and comes to games, and she
loves it when it's sunny here.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So I mean, but it's not always sunny.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
They're not They're not hiding from the fact that she's
not here full time.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
They're just not right. And you know, look, I mean
I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Think it was necessary for her to say that on
social media. But if they're cool with it, then that's
their prerogative. Hey, I'm not who am I to tell
them what to say what not to say on social media.
But I do think that again, with the rules the
way they are set up, and with teams and universities
being able to just drop fifty million dollars to get
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rid of coaches and then buy other coaches contracts out
from their previous universities, I mean they're throwing money around
like it grows on trees literally, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I mean you you.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Allow one or two individual big pocket donors to provide
capital to run a program, then you got to tune
in and listen to what they have to say when
they want to make a move.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So it's I don't know, man, I think it's tough,
what it is.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I think it's tough for a lot of fans to,
you know, to take school seriously. Let's let's use Penn
State for an example, to take school seriously.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
When they cry, hey, we need more money, we need
more money, we need more.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Money, and then they have to pay James Franklin fifty
million dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
That's but that's normally coming from one person one rich
donor who steps up and writes a check. And some people,
I think need to realize that it's not like Penn
State has fifty million dollars sitting there that they would
have spent on the women's basketball team. That came from
somebody who had an enough of James Franklin and said.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Look, if I got to write a check, I'll write
a check.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Like the guy at Michigan State whatever the hell his
name is, who bought out what's his nuts that was
having the sex conversation with the Brandon Tracy what was
his name? Man Michigan State fired, and someone just said,
I'll buy it. I'll pay seventy million bucks to get
rid of the guy. You know, I mean, this money
isn't sitting in some bank account, Tucker, Now, Tucker. The
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money is sitting in the bank account of a donor
who happens to be a fan, who happens to have
the wherewithal to be grossly influential over the fortunes of
a college football team, and is offering that money to
better what he thinks the product will be on the field.
So you're right that people think like that, but that's
not necessarily the case.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
We're going to break. Humilan joins it five
Jed Fish.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
We're gonna hear a little bit from him, a little
conversation we had yesterday before this game tomorrow with the
Aliini that's coming up four thirty. John Wilner will join
at six pm to night. Brian Schmetz, you're gonna hang
on or hop on and say hi as well out
about five forty five tonight. So we got a little
audio here we're gonna play for you. Courtesy of Amazon.
Last night's Thursday night game Chargers Minnesota. Don't you know
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which the Vikings just looked terrible? Was Carson Wentz crying
during that game yesterday? It was what was going on?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I don't know if he was in pain, slash disappointed,
slash disgusted.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It was all, Yeah, he looked very twelve year old issue. Yeah, well,
I'm blaming behind that offensive line, and I'm blaming. I
did see a picture though, somebody sent out last night
that had showed Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones and Viking
uniforms at the end of last year. Reminded me that
they did have both those guys on their roster a
year ago. And I don't know, man, I feel like
we should like send them something you know, like just
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to numb the pain.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I mean, they let him both walk in.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, but I just kind of feel like, you know what,
here's a box of candy or something or whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
You and I sat in the Emerald Queen Casino in
August and said, you're really going with JJ McCarthy, okay,
and we went to the window and said, give me
the under on the nine and a half wins.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Well, you know it's just been it's too easy.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
It is too easy. I don't I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I feel bad for them a little bit that they
because it's one thing to have terrible quarterback play. It's
another to have terrible quarterback play and then know that
you had maybe two of the top five quarterbacks in
the NFL right now on your roster last year.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I just feel like, you know, if you're gonna be
kind of the sports guys, maybe we should just throw
them a bouquet or something just to say we're starting.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
An edible arrangement.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, what I mean, anything.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
We could offer Sam Darnold for their next four first
round draft pick? Would you do that for four first
round draft picks?
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I did that?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Would you really for four first round picks, yes, I
would two, No, four, Yes, I think three is the
number where three is probably that it becomes interesting. Well,
technically the NFL only allows you to trade three of them.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Then we have this conversation with a couple of years ago.
But why I live in reality? That's a good question,
because here would be my reason why I would not
do it. Of those four first rounders, they're likely if
Minnesota continues on this path, going to be fairly high picks. Ye, okay,
Now you could package them, maybe there's a quarterback coming up,
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or a defensive end whatever, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But are you more apt to find.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
More long term success if you hang on to Sam
Darnald who's twenty eight?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Is that right? How about Sam Darnal twenty eight years old?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So the way Sam Donald is playing right now, he
is trending early in a Seahawk career towards getting another
contract from the Hawks. Is that fair to say he's
trending right now? That could change in two months from now.
Maybe next year you'll feel different. But he's twenty eight
years old. Are you more apt to find long term
success for the next five six years if you hang
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on to that quarterback or dump him for four draft picks,
which every single one of them may turn out to
be a bum, or three of the four may turn
out to be a bum.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I don't know if I would do that, Dick.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
If you're convinced that Sam Donald is the quarterback of
the future and every team in the NFL is fighting
like mad to find a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I mean, for me, there's only like three players on
the planet I wouldn't trade for four draft picks, four
number one draft picks, and Sam Darnald's not one of them. Okay, dude,
I'm just telling you, man, I mean four first round
draft picks.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
He upsets you, up sets you up both with.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Talent and financially for a half a decade. But you
still have to find the quarterback to make it all work. Yes,
you do, So what good is it if you don't
have the quarterback. Look, I'm not saying I would not
do it, but you got to admit that there's logic
and saying no. Mean, if you have found the most
important piece to winning in the NFL, and you found
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him at the age of twenty eight, is.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
He the most important piece for the Seahawks winning Sam
Donald defense and their coach defense marriage. I think if
you want to win a title, you gotta have both, right, But.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
We don't know if Sam Donald is the quarterback that
will win us a title.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
We know the Sam Donald's a quarterback that is good
enough to get us to the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I think if you've got an elite defense and you've
got Sam Donald playing quarterback for you, you can win a
championship if he's playing this way, if he continues this.
Speaker 7 (04:25):
So let me just ask this question. Where are the
massive Seahawks holes right now? Where are the holes in
this team where you could say, okay, a first round
X person, right guy, right right guard, center number two?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, yeah, I mean I can get by with Sundal
for now. I'd like an upgrade, but I can get
by with Sundal for now. Right guard for sure. You're
not drafting a right guard with a number one first
round draft pick. I don't think you'll work edge rusher
left guard edge rusher for sure. I think you could
use an edge rusher, lineback, number two, wide receiver, you
could use behind JSN.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
I'm hearing a lot of the words, and I would
agree with you.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
That we could use, that we could use that you're
not like massive holes on the team. I don't think
so in that conversation. If you don't have massive holes
that you need four first round picks for, then you
don't do the deal because you can get that in
the next draft of the next couple of drafts, and
you don't need to mortgage the quarterback. Now, listen, four
is an insane number. I would go four. Three is
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the one where I kind of say.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I mean, just think if we would have had this
conversation three months ago.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Sam's been that far, of course, but Sam hasn't been
any better than he was last year. And that's what
everybody's point was, like, Oh, Sam was only good because
he was in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Well maybe he's.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Not, because you say everybody, everybody outside of Seattle that
we talked about the Vegas odds, and we talked about
the line it was where it was because the rest
of the dumb country.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I didn't think that Sam Donald was good.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I don't think I ever said that.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well I did say that, but I also know that
my biggest concern about Sam Donald is he a flash
in the pan and can he do it again? And
now he's doing it again. This is now seven games
where he doing it again. So I am way more
convinced today that Sam Darnold has arrived than I was
than I was at the end of last season with Minnesota,
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because now he's backing it up and he's backing it
up in Seattle. So I gotta tell you, man, if
you came to me and said you can have four
first round draft picks that may or may not payan out,
you're still gonna have to go out and find your quarterback,
which is the most important piece to winning in the NFL. Look,
you're right, Dick. This team could win because of their defense,
but their defense is going to have to be elite
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to win without a quarterback. I mean, Russell Wilson was
not a world beater when he was here, but he
was still pretty damn good. He was a top third
of the NFL, don't you think quarterback when in twenty thirteen,
top ten, top twelve quarterback maybe in the NFL right
around there.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But they also had an elite running game. Elite running game.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
So unless you feel convinced that you can find an
elite defense like a world class defense and an elite
running game, then yes, eventually it's going to probably come
back to having to have a star at quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I don't know if I would do it.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I mean I would think if we put it out
to the audience, I'm sure I would think more people
would rather have four first round draft That's.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Fine, But I'm not saying that's right. I'm just I'm
telling you what I think. I mean, four is just okay,
then you need a quarterback. I then go find a quarterback.
We didn't have a quarterback four months, six months ago.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
I mean, I think three is the number to debate.
Four is insane. But I think I think the masses
if we put a pull out there saying right now,
when you trade Sam Donald for three first round draft picks,
I think that would be.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
More like sixty thirty.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yes, it's closer than this way close to phrase this
pull right, I don't think it's one hundred percent that.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And again I'm not saying no, I'm just saying that
this idea.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
They're like, yeah, I mean there's I don't think I
can get there that fast because I am giving up.
I am giving up the number one thing that you
need to have in the NFL. Traditionally, to have success,
and that would make me massively nervous to walk away
from that guy. If he's as good as we think
he is, it would make me really nervous to walk away.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Again, I would say that there are not that many
major holes to fill. You can fill the holes over
these next couple of drafts, and given that you don't
need those first round draft picks to go win a
Super Bowl, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
At the same time, four is an insane number. Three.
I'm on the fence about three.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Is this a fair is a fair way to phrase this?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
At five o'clock? You think that is a fair way
to phrase this? Pole I would not trade Sam Donald
unless I got this many first round.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Picks one, two, three or four.
Speaker 8 (08:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
I like it.
Speaker 9 (08:40):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I mean, first of all, I don't even we should.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You're gonna hear from people that are asking, why is
this a topic to the show? The guy is one
of the top quarterbacks in the NFL and you want
to get rid of him.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Well, no, he was wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I think most people that would We just went from
Geno Smith that after seven games of Sam Donald validating
everything they did over the offseason.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Now you want to move on.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Twitter is gonna because.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I think Paul Moyer is gonna kill you. We gotta
tell you to get over it.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I think this is gonna show how much more Seahawks
fans value Sam Donald today than they did the day
we got him, because I remember the day we got him.
The three of us were excited. But I think there
was a collective throughout the city when we got Sam absolutely,
and now I.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Don't think there's a collective meth anymore.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
I feel was med.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
It was questioning like, okay, are we sure? Like because
I mean, keep in mind, once the details of the
contract came out, it's such a team friendly deal that
once that came out, everybody was like, all right, great
prove it.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
And boy he's proven. Well, I thought it was an
upgrade over Gino Smith. I didn't think it was gonna
be this big of an upgrade over Gino Smith. Well
that's partially dine, I mean too yeah, but still, Sam
Donald is number six in the NFL and QBR. And
where's Gino at is? He's twenty ninth. Sam Donald is
number six, Gino is twenty ninth in the NFL. His
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QBR rating is more than double what Geno Smith is
so you're right, part of its Geno falling apart. But
I mean, you would have been happy if Sam Donald
was tenth in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
How do you think this happening that is top six?
Because you want to trade him?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Don't you want to get rid of him for unknown booms?
He's wrong with you.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
I don't want to trade him or first John drop Pick.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
By the way, how bad do you think Russell Wilson
fills right now? He's got a worse QBR than Geno
Smith does? God, why is this happening now?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Because remember when we were talking about it with Geno Smith,
we were like, God, this hasn't happened since, like Jim Plunkett,
A rich Gannon, like, why all of a sudden in
a five year span?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Is there?
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Geno Smith?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Baker Mayfield, right, Sam Donald, Daniel Jones? Like why all
of a sudden a reclamation projects hitting for like twenty
five years?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Who's next? We talked about this a couple of weeks ago.
I thought out there, maybe Mariota, who was next, might start,
you know, his next the guy at San Francisco's probably
Mac Jones. Mac Jones, he might be next, but he
didn't have the long career that Darnold and Baker Mayfield
and Daniel Jones had. Those guys had to wait like
seven years. That's right, right, Mac Jones is still on
his original rookie deal. Is he not from Alabama?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So I don't know. I mean, you're right.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
There is a there's a massive reclamation wave going through
the NFL of all these I mean, hew, Joe Flacco
looked great, you know for Cincinnati. There's this massive wreck,
this title wave of reclamation projects that are taking over
the NFL. And I guarant freaking to you, guarantee you
we can sit here and talk cabab me one about
who the next guy is. There's gms out there who
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are trying to figure that out right now. They're looking
at rosters and they're looking at backup quarterbacks and third
string quarterbacks and they're trying to figure out who was
in the wrong system. How about this for a name
of a guy that could be rejuvenated somewhere else. How
about two with tongue of Iloa. If you have gets
out of Miami. Now he's making fifty million dollars a year,
I get that, But if he ever gets a brand
new coach and gets into a different system and away
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from that weirdo in Miami and he goes in places
for somebody else.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Who knows what to Tungavailoa could be all about.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
You, guys want to feel old mac Jones is actually
in his fifth year in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, it seems like he was like a rookie like
last Tuesday. But he was a first round draft pick, right,
mac Jones? So he's on his fifth year option. No, No,
we have a free agent deal with somebody else.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Is that correct? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
He was a Patriot for the first three years and
then he went to Jacksonville and San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I think the Patriots declined his options.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
They may have what they may have. Look, guys, here's
the deal. I'm just saying this. Draft picks are nice.
Draft picks are awesome. First round draft picks are even better.
The money you save versus veterans is cool. But if
you have found a quarterback, you are already winning. You
are already so far in front of the curve. And
to give that guy up. If you think that Sam
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Darnold is going to be here for six or seven
years into his mid thirties, Dick the starting quarterback for
the Seahawks and give them a top tier quarterback for
the next.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Half decade or whatever. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
What you can trade him for that would give you
what he's giving you right now. So I'm gonna well,
we'll ask you at five what he thinks about this.
But Richard Sherman, sorry, I wanted to get to this
audio was on Prime last night talking about the Seahawks
and he believes they might be actually a contender in
the NFC.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
I think the Seattle Seahawks are Super Bowl contenders. You
lie in.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
I think they have one of.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
The best defenses in the National Football League and d
line with a lot of death. You got Byron Murphy,
you got DeMarcus Lawrence, you got Leonard Williams, they keep
coming in ways. And then you've got one of the
best receivers, if not the best receiver in the National
Football League, and Jackson Smith and Jig but you got
Sam Darner, who the Minnesota Vikings are wishing they had
(13:56):
right now. And I just can't see a world that
this team isn't getting better.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Get So, the Seahawks have the third best point differential
in the NFC, right now at plus fifty seven. Some
of that's aided by the Saint game, obviously, but you
know the Rams have a different point differential of plus
fifty eight, and they've got some blowouts as well, including
the Jaguars this last weekend thirty five to seven.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Look, I agree with them. I think they are a contender.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
The issue for me is, I think there's probably six
or seven contenders in the NFC, if not maybe five
or six contenders in the NFC. I think the Niners
still are a contender, The Rams are a contender, The
Lions are a contender. Philadelphia is a contender. Who in
the NFC Central would be a contender? Excuse me, the
(14:43):
NFC South would be a contender. Tampa Bay's a contender.
That's six teams I name right there. I think it's
wide freaking open. So yes, I do think they are
a contender. But I also think it's like the Mariners,
this thing is opened for the taking.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well. As I mentioned last week, the Seahawks number one
in DVOA, only the eighth team in the Super Bowl
Area to rank in the top five in all three
phases after the first six games. And you wanted me
to do a little research on what that meant, right,
So I looked at the end of the regular season
top five in DVA after twenty twenty one, twenty two,
twenty three, and twenty four, all four Super Bowl champs
(15:18):
were top five DVOA teams, six of the eight Super
Bowl participants, six of the eight one seeds, and six
of the eight two seeds.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
So it while it's not the end all be all.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
For example, like the Packers were a seven seed last
year and they were a top five DVOA team. But
if you're a top five DVOA team, you're probably not
losing in the first round of the playoffs. You were
at least going to the NFC Championship Game if not
the If not the same, how many of those top.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Five dvo eight teams had to go on the road
for the wildcard round?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
The Hawks are going right now?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, I can tell you the seeds. Last year, the
Ravens were the three seed. Okay, they were number one DVOA.
The Eagles won the Super Bowl, they were the number
two dvway. Lions were third, they lost at home in
the playoffs. Vikings were fourth, they lost in the first round,
and the Packers what they do in the first round
the Packers winner loser first game out.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Of the Packers.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So I think three of those four teams you mentioned
so far all had home field.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
All at home field.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yes, most of them are having the first round because
most of them are one one in two seats.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Green Bay lost to Philadelphia by the way on the road,
So yeah, I just think it's a little bit of
an equalizer when you have to go on the road,
you know. I mean, look, the Hawks winning the NFC
West would be huge. That's why that lost to San
Francisco Week one right now stings so badly because it
put them behind the eight ball. They've got to beat
the Niners, gotta beat them on the road in weeks.
I mean that that game could be the NFC West
(16:43):
championship game in San Francisco right in week eighteen, could be.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I think the Rams are probably better than the forty
nine ers.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Well, we're gonna find out. We're gonna break. How about
that for analysis? By the way, we're gonna break, We're
gonna hear from Jed fish Husky coach, what does he
make of all the rumors flying around about the UCLA
job and the lord a job. Way whispering, I don't
know next on ninety three three KJRFM.
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for tomorrow's game. Courtesy of Go Huskies dot Com. Had
a chance to catch up with Jedfish, ub head coach
before tomorrow's game with Illinois. Lots of topics the Michigan game,
(17:55):
how do you get Jonah Coleman going?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And what about all these.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Kind of rumors going around and his name associated with
UCLA and floworda all that. Here's my conversation with Jed
Fish before tomorrow's game with the.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
ALAINI let's kind of start with I've always thought it
it's easier for players and coaches to get over losses
versus fans because you guys are in it. You guys
can do something about this. You know, the game Saturday,
the Mariner game on Monday. You sit around all week
just thinking about stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
How do you do that?
Speaker 8 (18:24):
How do you get over losses?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Or do you get over losses?
Speaker 8 (18:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (18:27):
I think it is definitely different because the fans have
to wait a week right before we get to play again.
We're Sunday at eleven. I was in Sunday at seven
thirty in the morning watching the film and grading the
film and getting ready to start moving my own brain
onto Illinois because you can't play the game twice. But yeah,
it's still challenging, it's still upsetting. You still look at
(18:48):
things and like I wish this happened or I can't
believe that happened. But you know, we have to get
over it because it's our job to be able to
have a better performance the next week.
Speaker 9 (18:56):
Yeah, go back to that Michigan tape that you're watching
on Sunday morning. But what did you see that was
of the most importance that you've got to clean up
for this game Saturday.
Speaker 11 (19:07):
You know, pre snout penalties really cost us in tough
situations where we were in really good field position. So
we've got to clean that up. We you know, we
I believe that we got a little bit enamored with
the situation. I'm in the big house a little early,
and it was kind of our defense did a great
job getting an early stop, and then when we missed
(19:27):
a field goal, I think there was a little bit
of a deflation and we gave up a touchdown there.
I think that, you know, the biggest thing for us
is to be able to make explosive plays on offense.
And if we're not making explosive plays on offense, it's
very hard to drive the length of the field, and
I feel like we just weren't able to get that done.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
Can you, honestly in reality do that with the current
state of your offensive line banged up like it is.
Speaker 11 (19:51):
Well, we certainly had some challenges, and I'll never make
excuses about anything.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
It's always more challenging to hold the ball a little
bit longer or to break or.
Speaker 11 (20:00):
Run when, especially in the second half, when you know,
we're playing with our third left tackle with when Max
went down and week in the second quarter or at
the end of the half, and then you know, we
still had to move some guys around, and Quentin Moore
is a huge part of what we try to do
as well, So there were some things that we had
to deal with, but you know, we got to make
it no matter what.
Speaker 9 (20:20):
Yeah, a lot of those names of the offensive line
are brand new names versus a year ago, and there
will be brand new names likely next year. Are the
days of seeing three four offensive lineman play two three
years together?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Are they over?
Speaker 8 (20:34):
I hope not.
Speaker 11 (20:35):
I mean, if you look at our team, I mean,
my hope is Drew as a Party is back next
year and that'll be his third year.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Is our right tackle? My hope and he's.
Speaker 11 (20:42):
Graded at ex feeling well land that hatchets back next year.
You you know, you look at John Mills, you know,
John Mills is only a freshman. You look at Poki
Fin now only a Redchid freshman. You look at some
of the guys that are coming in here. You know,
I think that we're going to be one of those programs.
I really hope that our fans do know our guys
and they are familiar with and in four years from now,
(21:03):
Desmond Robot is a guy they're like, Wow, this guy's
played fifty something games and that would be super cool.
Speaker 9 (21:09):
Yeah, you mentioned the way you bounce back. How does
demand bounce back from a game like that?
Speaker 11 (21:14):
Yeah, I mean that was the most challenging game he's
had in his life if you look at it only
by a stat line, if you look at so many
of the plays that he did make. I tried to
point out him, like, it really wasn't that much different
than any other game that's been played, other than one
guy steps in front of a slant and you know,
we want to be on a miscommunication on a stick round,
(21:36):
Like you got to think more like that. And I
think when we met and we talked and we spent
time together on Sunday for a while, I think that
hopefully helped him understand like it's really just a couple
of plays in every game, in every game, and it
sometimes the plays go your way and sometimes they don't,
and the key.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
Is really be able to go. And he's had a
really nice week of practice.
Speaker 9 (21:57):
It's obvious what Jonah brings to this team. And you
spoke Thursday at your press conference about how important he
is to the culture of the locker room.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
When I look though.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
At just the Big Ten stats and I see Joanah
Coleman thirteenth in the Big Ten and rushing three and
a half yards per game, it's almost shocking to see.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Numbers like that.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
So how do you fix that?
Speaker 9 (22:15):
What do you think's been kind of holding that running
game back, besides the offensive line being maybe a bit
banged up.
Speaker 11 (22:20):
Yeah, I think what happened was in the big tech
games we had, they've all kind of been unique in
its own way. Certainly, I felt that Oha State was
just a huge challenge to run the football on, and
we made some plays, and then I felt like against
Rutgers they gave us a lot of opportunities to run
them on. So we had a lot of called runs
for Demand and a few called runs for Jonah. And
(22:41):
then against Maryland when the game got their twenty nothing,
it became one of those deals.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
So every game is different.
Speaker 11 (22:47):
You know, ideally we're always going to try to get
Jonah fifteen to twenty five carries a game. He had
sixteen this past week. We would have loved to have
a few more third down conversions that it would have
got him some more. And I think that he's also
at his healthiest that he's been.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
In a few weeks. So I hope to have a
good one on Saturday.
Speaker 9 (23:03):
What does this Illinois football team present that is kind
of unique versus what you've seen so far?
Speaker 11 (23:09):
You think, well, I think that it's another very good
football team that came off with ten wins that have
been built.
Speaker 8 (23:14):
To be a Big ten program.
Speaker 11 (23:15):
So they're big, and they're good pass rushers on defense,
and they fly around in their secondary, and offensively with Altmeyer,
they've really built a really good pro style offense. So
it's going to be a great challenge and we're going
to need our fans behind.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Us before you go.
Speaker 9 (23:30):
You and I were talking off vieir about I appreciate
that you'll take on any question from anybody. I'm not
expecting you to give me your credit card number if
I ask for it. If you want to, that's fine.
But I get a lot of people that come up
to me and say, Hey, Billy Napier just got fired.
I see Jed's name at UCLA.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Is Jed going to be here long term?
Speaker 9 (23:47):
Or is this a stepping stone job for him. When
you hear people say things like that, what's your response
to that?
Speaker 11 (23:52):
It's frustrating because it's things that like, I'm not I'm
not in control of that. I think it's a credit
to our players that we were playing well in year
two and people are noticing us. But that's it, That's
all it is to me. It's literally people are noticing
that Washington Husky football is a really good brand of program.
It's certainly not a stepping stone. And that alone is
what I just tell everybody that asks, like, I don't
(24:12):
know what anyone's talking about other than rumors at innuendos,
and nothing has to do.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
With the truth.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, do you like it here? And more importantly, does
a wife like it here?
Speaker 8 (24:19):
I love it here. The wife's been at every game.
Speaker 11 (24:21):
She's on airplanes all the time to make sure my
kids and my wife don't miss a thing. And we
enjoy our summers tremendously here.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
So we love it all.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Right, man, go get them Saturday. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
Thanks. Go dogs.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
So you know, we live in an era where people
are more privy to information now than ever. Right, So
when amberfish is Jed's wife goes on Facebook or Instagram
and says she's moving back to Tucson to be with
the kids while they finish school. People's radars go up like, oh,
that's interesting. The coach's wife is not even living in
Seattle full time. So people will take that information and
(24:56):
do what they want with it, obviously, And I think
the one thing that Jedfish is going to have to
fight for a lot of people as simple thirteen stops
since two thousand and two, end of story, right, And.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
He's admitted that. He said, Look, I've moved around a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
So there are people that will think that Jedfish is
only here as a necessary evil to take whatever next
step he wants to take for his college football career.
And I have come to grips with that, with the possibility,
Dick that he could leave and take off and go
somewhere else. I've also come to grips with the idea
that the roster could change every single year. So I'm
(25:29):
trying not to focus on that. I'm trying to just
take every year as its own entity in college football
because right now, the way this whole thing is set up,
everything can change, and it can change overnight. And we
experience that with Kaylan, and we might experience it with
Jed who knows. But I will say this, if Washington
benefits from that, like we've benefited from Kaylan's shortstop, then
(25:51):
so be it.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well. I think we're going to see a lot more
jedfishes in the future. He's not going to be as
much of an anomaly in twenty thirty as he is
now or even five years.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I mean a short time. Yes, totally.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I think every score already starts to see it. I
mean the day and age of you know, fifteen of
the top thirty programs in America keeping their coach for
double digit years, those are gone.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I agree, absolutely gone.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I thought it was so cool that signety Yes exactly,
and you know, the whole happy wife, happy life thing.
I mean, you could hear from him, she says, he
comes there. Yes, his wife like this, He said, she
gets on a plane and comes to games, and she
loves it when it's sunny here.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So I mean, but it's not always sunny.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
They're not They're not hiding from the fact that she's
not here full time.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
They're just not right. And you know, look, I mean
I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Think it was necessary for her to say that on
social media. But if they're cool with it, then that's
their prerogative. Hey, I'm not who am I to tell
them what to say what not to say on social media.
But I do think that again, with the rules the
way they are set up, and with teams and universities
being able to just drop fifty million dollars to get
(27:00):
rid of coaches and then buy other coaches contracts out
from their previous universities, I mean they're throwing money around
like it grows on trees literally, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I mean you you.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Allow one or two individual big pocket donors to provide
capital to run a program, then you got to tune
in and listen to what they have to say when
they want to make a move.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So it's I don't know, man, I think it's tough,
what it is.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I think it's tough for a lot of fans to,
you know, to take school seriously. Let's let's use Penn
State for an example, to take school seriously.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
When they cry, hey, we need more money, we need
more money, we need more.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Money, and then they have to pay James Franklin fifty
million dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
That's but that's normally coming from one person one rich
donor who steps up and writes a check. And some people,
I think need to realize that it's not like Penn
State has fifty million dollars sitting there that they would
have spent on the women's basketball team. That came from
somebody who had an enough of James Franklin and said.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Look, if I got to write a check, I'll write
a check.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Like the guy at Michigan State whatever the hell his
name is, who bought out what's his nuts that was
having the sex conversation with the Brandon Tracy what was
his name? Man Michigan State fired, and someone just said,
I'll buy it. I'll pay seventy million bucks to get
rid of the guy. You know, I mean, this money
isn't sitting in some bank account, Tucker, Now, Tucker. The
(28:26):
money is sitting in the bank account of a donor
who happens to be a fan, who happens to have
the wherewithal to be grossly influential over the fortunes of
a college football team, and is offering that money to
better what he thinks the product will be on the field.
So you're right that people think like that, but that's
not necessarily the case.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
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