October 27, 2025 • 36 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler, Dick Fain, and Jackson Felts discuss the continued heartbreak after the Mariners season ended last week, John Stanton’s letter to fans and faith in the M’s Owner, plus we get to a Fact or Fiction pick and react to Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where great time to come by the Emerald Queen Casino
Sportsbook and join us for a sports gasm this evening
when the show ends at five o'clock.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
So here's my question to you nerds. All right, here's
my question.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
If you were to take the collective Seattle fan base,
not just the three of us, but I mean like
the collective fan base, and you asked everybody, what is
the number one sports topic on your brain right now?
Would it be still coming out of the Mariner funk.
Would it be the Seahawks and coming off to buy
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to play the Commanders. Would it be the NHL and
the cracking off to a hot start. Would it be
the NBA season starting. Would it be the Husky football
team at six and two coming off to win versus Illinois.
I'm not asking you what you would think. I'm just
asking you, guys, Jackson, you two, what would be the
collective answer if you asked all six million people in
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the state of Washington or three and a half in
the corridor. I guess let's just do that, because let's
face it, Eastern Washington's like Idaho.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
The hell with those people? What would they say? What
would they say? There's the number one thing on their
sports brain right now.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
So it's for me, I think the answer is pretty simple,
and it's still the heartbreak. I mean, we are less
than a week removed from one of the most devastating
emotional games of our lives as Seattle sports fans, and
it's gonna take more than a week to kind of
get over that. And especially maybe if the Seahawks had
played yesterday or if they played a night it would
be different, but that doesn't exist, so we're still in
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this limbo realm of post mortem Mariners.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Dick Well, I think.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Jackson is right that I think a Seahawk game would
have kind of refocused the attention a little bit. But
I think the Husky game and the way they played
refocus Husky fans because I know, you know, just looking
on social media and the people I follow, the people
that follow me, I mean, the Huskies, all of us.
I think the Husky fan base with that game on Saturday,
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went like, oh crap, we like could run the table here,
and like it was kind of like the the Aha
moment that this team actually could be nine and two
going into the last week of the season and people
are looking at rankings and complaining why they're not ranked
and looking at power rankings.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
So I think for Husky fans, just not all six.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Million people collective collectively.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I mean, but there's twice as many Seahawks fans as
Husky fans right there.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
But there's a point where the Huskies can get to it,
like like if they were undefeated right now, you know, yeah,
maybe they'd take over. But I mean, do you agree
with Jackson? No, because I agree with Jackson.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I still think I think I would have agreed with
Jackson all the way up to probably this weekend. And
I think now that we turn the page to this
week world Series is in full, full throat and everybody's
just like, I don't even want to watch it. Yeah,
I think it's the Seahawks. I think it's the I
think it's the six and two Seahawks that a lot
of people are thinking, Wat second, we could be the
best team in the entire conference and make the super
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Bowl when we thought it was probably still a year
or two down the road.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well, I think Jackson's right. There's no way of knowing
any of this. Obviously, nobody's gonna pull three million people,
But I think he's right. I'm just the sense that
I'm getting is that the number one thing that people
want to be us about is still the Mariners and
the and the thing that came out today in the paper.
You're write the letter that John Stanton wrote that we
can talk about in a minute here. But you know,
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I got people coming up to me at the Queen
that you know obviously haven't seen for a week.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And that's part of it. Like, man, those Mariners, dude, Man, right,
It's just I think it's still it's still there. It's
a week later from shill there.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Despite what Paul Moyer wants us to do, I don't
think collectively the city has even gotten over this yet.
I think when the World Series ends and baseball kind
of goes away and we really make that transition everybody
officially into football, basketball and hockey, I think there's going
to be a time and place, maybe in a couple
of weeks, maybe a week and a half. Hell, it
might happen by this weekend if the Dodgers win three
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in a row in LA that people will move on.
But you know, you're just sitting there, You're talking to
your buddies, and the number one conversation for at least
for me. I'm not saying that my gang or whatever
represents society, although we should.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Uh, it's the Mariners. It's the heartbreak of the Mariners.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And I'm sitting here right now at the Emerald Queen
and Youan and I were talking about this in cross talk,
and we talked about this last night at dinner with
some pals, that we should be having the freaking time
of our lives right now.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Man, would we be having the time of our lives?
I think we.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Would, and nobody knows for sure until we're actually there.
I think that everybody in Seattle would be walking around
and collectively would be happy as hell yep about Game
three of the World Series, because we'd be smiling our
asses off, Jackson right now.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
You're You're absolutely right. No matter if we were blown
out in games one and two in LA, we would
still be smelling our asses off. I think to the
point that you made, there's all this World Series going on.
I don't think it's the collective fan base in sports
people going you know, I'm turning this off at least
for maybe it's social media, But like I am paying
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very I didn't even think I would, But I'm paying
very close attention to the World Series, and I am
just because I have such a deep rooting interest in
the Dodgers to win this thing. And because of that,
I'm constantly reminded of we should be here, we should
be here, we should be here, and that's feeding into
the emotion of, well, damn it, we're not there.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
That's interesting because five days ago we were talking about, Oh,
nobody's gonna watch this.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I was wrong about myself. I totally surprised myself with
how much I care. But I am rooting so hard
for the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I've watched maybe three innings of the of the first
two games, and I'm rooting.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
I'm obviously rooting for the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I love the bat, the two jacks that they had
in Game number two to counuple three to pull that
one out. But I mean, I still think that what
you'll find out, Jackson, now that we found out twenty
five years ago, and it'll be really cool. You'll absolutely
love this, is that spring training will come so fast.
It is so I remember like ninety five in two thousand,
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in two thousand and one, those seasons last so long
that the off season seems like a blink of an eye,
and it's like pictures and catchers are reporting, and I
just remember being like, this is really cool.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
We got a great team and wet and a half
months exactly been in a half months until pitchers and
catchers November, December, January, and then you're and then you're
into the first month of pitchers and catchers in February. Man,
so it does come fast. I just I'm just constantly
reminded of what we could have had. Yep, constantly, whether
you flip on TV, and I'm thinking after game number two, God,
you know what, even game number one, we could.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Have beat these people. We could have beat these sons
of bitches.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
The Mariners could have won the whole fricking thing if
they would have found a way to get in. I mean, look,
I mean, I know I'm being maybe a bit of
a homer, but the Dodgers' bullpen is not very.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Good, and you've seen what can happen to that offense.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I mean, there are their offense has not done a
ton in the first two games of that series. Now,
maybe they explode tonight against Max Schurz or I, by
the way, got a funny feeling they will just hammer
him tonight in Game number three, because you do to
a forty year old what you're supposed to do to
a forty year old, and you run his ass out
of there. I think that that's what the Dodgers do tonight.
So I love the Dodgers in Game three. But I'm
kind of with Jackson. I have not paid as much
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attention as I normally do, but I've paid a little
more attention than I thought I was going to. And
maybe it's because I just I don't know, man, Maybe
I just like the pain, right.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Maybe I'm a massacrest.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I just like being response being reminded every fricking day
of what we could have had and how close we came.
And it hits me and just random times. I'm driving
home on Saturday afternoon, Boom, it just hit me.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
In the car.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Man, we were eight outs away driving to work. Boom,
we were eight outs away. So I don't know if
that feeling is really ever gonna go away. I still
think about a lot of losses, right, I think about
what happened in two thousand, think about two thousand and one,
think about some Husky games. You know that we've been
through and Seahawk games and all that, And I don't
think that stuff ever really truly goes away.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
It just kind of maybe dissipates a little bit. But
I don't know, man.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I mean, i'd be curious to hear from the text
line four nine, four or five one about if there's all,
if there's room for a few sports topics in your brain,
what's taking up the majority already of your brain power
right now?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I'd love to I'm still living in misery for the
Mariners or have you moved on?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I'd love to ask both of you, guys, because I've
kind of grown up in the social media world and
like for the for the big two Seattle sports heartbreaks
of my life being to pick at the one and
being this loss, there's there's been this kind of social
media and also the news cycle where pretty much every
day it just turns over new pieces of news. Was
there a Seattle sports heartbreak comparable to these pre social
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media era? And then the part B of that, and
the most important part is how long did it take
you to get over that?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Well? The ninety four Nuggets series is number one. That's
number one.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Obviously when they lost, they were the number one seed
in the Western Conference and they got beat by Denver,
the first and one seed ever to lose to an
eighth seed.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
That took me a month again Number one, okay.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, and then there's another one for me, which is
kind of this is like before, I mean, social media
was around, but not like it is now. When the
Huskies lost to Yukon in two thousand and six rushing DC,
they were leading minute and a half to go and
they went to overtime, Rashad fing Anderson to Mike Jensen, fowl,
all that stuff that we're talking about. Brandon Roy got
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that BS technical. It was twenty years ago, and I
remember walking around Washington, d C. The next day because
I was waiting for a flight to go out that night.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I was like in a daze.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I just couldn't believe what, how in the world did
we not win that game to go to the Elite
eight and they would have gone to the Final four,
because you remember it was George Mason and kN and
Yukon totally took him for granted and they got beat
and George Mason went to the Final four.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So that took me a long time.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Guys, I just think the closer you get to something again,
it's not about comparing college basketball to the NFL, or
the Huskies of the Seahawks, or the Mariners to the whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
When you get that close, when you're eight outs away.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
When you're leading with a minute and a half to go,
on the cusp of something you've never done, then it
hits you differently. It doesn't need to be the most
popular sport in the world, doesn't need to be the
most popular sport for you on your own radar, right,
But when you're that close to getting it done, the
the pain, the hurt, the impact just drives even higher
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up the list because of how close you were. And
I got vivid memories of sitting right behind the Husky
bench in Washington, DC in two thousand and six and
Cam Dowler came over to the Husky bench when the
Huskies had the lead with two minutes ago, and he
looks at the entire group and I'm sitting like right here, Dick,
like five feet away.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
He says, we got two minutes, and my god, my
heart just jumped.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Out of my chest. I'm thinking, these guys are gonna
go to the Elite eight and they're two minutes away,
and they ripped it away from.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
That's why it's just a fascinating kind of discussion that
you and Ian were having, Like, what would be our
mindset right now if we were in the World Series.
And I think for me, who knows really right, right,
I'm just guessing based upon kind of prior experience with
you know, making it or not making it to championship games.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
I think leading up to the game, I think you're right.
I think we would just be on absolute cloud nine.
We would be floating around everywhere.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
It doesn't matter if it side Ray's rain and forty
eight degrees, be like, I don't care.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
We're in the freaking World Series.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Once the game started, though, I think we would be
just so nervous because we were like, oh my god,
we're here. He might as well do it, Cal said,
and go win the bleeping things.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Maybe you're right, I mean again, nobody knows for sure.
All we can do is just gauge past experiences, and
I'm really curious to know if we ever do get there,
how we will feel. I got a feeling that it
might be the opposite, Dick, that we might just walk
into that stadium and not care and not give it
damn and you're looking at people you've known forever, You've
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looking at other ticket holders and ushers that you've bumped
into for decades, and you're just looking at him and
you're smiling. We're in the World Series. And I've always
said to myself, I'll never go to a World Series game.
I've never been to one, and I would never go
to one until the Mariners are in it. And I
would have been able to say on the air right now,
we're two hours away or an hour and forty five
away from walking into that stadium and crossing it off
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my list, and I finally, for the first time, at
fifty two years old, get to go to a World
Series game, and that would have been everything to me, everything,
And I would have walked in there and I would
have been like a pig and crap, absolute pig and crap,
hugging people high five and people fist bumping kids.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I mean, I may have been skipping down the concourse
in that stadium, Jackson if the Mariners are playing in
the World Series, So I can't say for sure, and
Dick could certainly be right that once the game gets going,
maybe we're nervous as all, but I can just imagine collectively.
It's hard to imagine collectively in general terms, an entire
city being in a good mood at the same time.
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I think that's what would have been happening right now.
If you could, like, you know, check the mood meter
of the entire city of Seattle.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Like we were in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I think everybody would be happy at Crape. You would
have as you would have a city Jackson that would
be in as good a collect of mood as they've
ever been in.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
And again, I don't think it would have mattered what
happens in game one and two. You could lose both
of them eight to nothing, and hey, we're sure we're
down to nothing, but we're against one of the greatest
teams ever assembled, and the reality is we have the
World Series in our building. Like that, it would have
created that moment, and it would have created that happiness
no matter what.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I mean, who knows.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Maybe on the other side, as Dick saying, you know,
go win the whole bleeping thing, maybe that would have
taken such pressure off of the players where they're like,
listen this, we're happy to be here. We don't have
the we are playing with house money, all the pressures
on the Dodgers to take care of business. Maybe we
would have won, won one of those games like Toronto did,
and and suddenly we're coming home one to one, saying
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to ourselves in that mindset, to Dick's point of oh
my god, could we pull a miracle? And David goliathe
all those things, So I don't know. Maybe I would
have had nerves, but I think, no matter if it's
the nervousness of oh my gosh, could we win or
just the happy to be there, the collective would have
been outrageous amounts of joy.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
But I would would like to find out would we
be find out would we.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Fight out more of it than Toronto though? I mean,
I mean to Toronto's matching them punch for punch.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, we're we I mean, like, oh, even David, Oh,
I see. I mean like you.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Said, David, and I don't. I don't necessarily see David
and Glith. When I see the Mariners and the Dodgers,
I see underdog.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
I think the.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Country would look at it that way because it's the
Dodgers in Seattle. Vegas might not look at it that way,
but the country would look at it that way. Yeah,
I mean, look, well, you know all of us have
said the Dodgers maybe were kind of bored during the
regular season. They were kind of banged up as well,
and probably should have won a hundred games if they
would have done what they were supposed to do in
the regular season, and they won one hundred and three
hundred and four games, and yeah, it probably would have
felt like a David versus Golias scenario. But you can
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do that in baseball. It's it's harder to do that
in the NBA, in the NFL. It's easier to do
it in Major League Baseball because of the way the
game goes. You're talking about a seven game sample of
one hundred and sixty two game seasons. So I would
just like to find out And look, I mean, obviously
want to talk some dogs.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
We'll talk about dogs with you. At four.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
There was an article in the paper today, or not
an article, but a letter that was written by John Stanton,
who you know, made it sound like they're motivated, you know,
motivated to go out and get this thing finished and
and get to the World Series. And you heard that
little kind of you know smirk there from Jackson. I
just wonder if fans feel the same way, because there's
a lot of that coming out on social media, like, yeah, right, right,
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there's a lot of that coming out yea on social media.
So is it deserved? Is it not deserved? I mean,
everybody has their take on it. So let's let's come
back and hit on that. Dogs get a win over Illinois,
not good enough to put them into the top twenty five,
but now they got three games in a row where
you can really envision a scenario where if they just
play the kind of football they're supposed to play, they
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could be nine and two heading into the Oregon game
and maybe, just maybe at nine and two would have
a shot at some kind of playoff conversation if they
could beat the Ducks. And for those saying with it
not even ranked, how could you have that conversation? Look
twenty twenty two, they were six and two, they were unranked,
and they beat Oregon States and they started climbing up
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the rankings. They went from twenty five to seventeen, to
thirteen to twelve and eventually finished at number eight in
the country.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
And they were in this exact same scenario, Dick.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
The difference is they had two games against top twenty
five teams versus one of them, and that was Oregon
State and Oregon. So again, can you go nine and two,
because that's what's gonna take. I mean, one more loss
than they're finished totally. They might be finished now, but
nine and two, or excuse me, nine and three, they
got no shot. So win these next three against UCLA, Perding, Wisconsin,
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and let's make the Oregon game really meaningful. We'll come
back in Yak about that, talk about the letter that
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Speaker 2 (17:24):
Did you guys read the article? Keep saying article? Why
do we keep saying article?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
The letter that was written by John Stanton that was
in the Seattle Times over the weekend. Jackson, you read it?
Pick You're read it all right? Well, I mean I
want to read the whole thing on the air. It
basically talks about how heartbroken he was about the way
the season ended. We all were never came closer to
bringing the first World Series to Seattle.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
We get it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Says it was the toughest return flight of their careers
coming back home. Obviously, Northwest deserves a World Series. So
he says, I know we're to get there. This is
the beginning of a special era of Mariner baseball. There
is work to do to take that final step, and
the work starts now. We can't wait to get back
to t ball. But park with all of you, thank
you again for being the best fans in baseball. Goal Mariners.
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From John Stanton. So I got about four or five
minutes here before factor fiction.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Go around the room.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I'll give you might take on a second on your
reaction Jackson to that letter that John stant Rup.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
I liked it.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I think it was he didn't need to put that out,
so I appreciate him doing that. And it's sort of
you know, the work starts now, as is sort of
the line that caught I think a lot of fans,
which is obviously like, Okay, does that mean you're going
to go fix the seven, eight nine hitters? Doesn't mean
you're going to go make sure to bring Naylor back
and bring Polanco back x y Z. And it's the
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it's the contrasting tones between we have work to do, yeah,
but John, we also know you have a budget, and
it's we've made it very very clear that you have
to work within these walls of the budget. So when
this work you have to do. How much work is it, John,
like when you put it, when you put up the
whiteboard of like work to do this offseason? Is it
as many boxes as the fans think it is? Because
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I don't think.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
It is so little skeptical than Jackson'll but yeah, okay,
all right, Dick, got Yeah, I think that's fair.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I mean, I I would maybe go a little slightly
less skeptical than Jackson but not a lot less skeptical
than Jackson. I mean, it's one thing to say, I
know we're gonna get there and there's work to do
to take that final step. I think it's another thing
to say we are going to do what it takes
to take.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
That final step.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
And he did not say that, so I think it
had he said, had he taken that further, then I
would have believed as a fan. Oh wait a second,
this run here actually changed John Stanton. Yeah, yeah, And
I'm not sure that this run changed John Stanton. I
think that the number is what the number is, the
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one hundred and sixty whatever our number was at the
end of the year, which Jerry has said that's gonna
be the number that starts next year. I think they're
gonna hold pretty hard and fast to that number to
start twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Well, look, I don't know. I mean, I I hope
it changed him. I think if it didn't change him,
or doesn't motivate him even more so than he already was,
then he's not human. There's no way as a human
being that you cannot be even more motivated now coming
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that close to win a World Series and look, I
mean doing what it takes. I mean, that's the guy
of the beholder, right, Like he may do one thing
and say oh, that's what it takes, and we may
say no.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
It's not right.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
So that's all up for interpretation. And I would just
say this, I don't really give it. Damn how much
money they spend over the offseason. I don't because I
just want good players fill the holes.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Man. I don't care, and I don't care how you
fill him.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
If you got to fill him by paying a guy
fifty million bucks, then fine, that's one way. But if
you can get the same guy for five million, great,
I don't care. I mean that's what people I think
kind of miss here. I don't care how much they spend,
as long as they spend the money or get the
right player.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I don't care how they do it.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Let's say they get a guy from Japan that flies
under everybody's radar and he's worth fifty million, but we
get him for a quarter million.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Great, whatever. I just want good players.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
That's why people I just cringe when people say things like, well,
all you want to do is spend money, Yeah, because
spending money is spending money on good players. I don't
want to spend money on bad players. I want to
spend money on good players.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Sometimes it's spending money, other times it's just spending money
on over price play.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Okay, but that's fine.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
But if they're good players, and I think they're good players,
and there's a reason why I'm doing that because I
want good players.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I don't care how they get them.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And the problem for me is that the Mariners historically
under this ownership group, have cut off one channel, one
avenue towards getting those good players, and that's free agents.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
They haven't done it.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I mean, let's face it, guys, they didn't do crap
over the offseason last year year.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I was more disappointed going into this season than any
other season.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Blew a ten game lead with the best ERA in
the American League and that didn't motivate him to do anything.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Last year nothing, they got lucky with Polanko. Nothing.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So let's hope that this run being eight outs away
has changed them. And again, if they can get those
great players another way, then that's fine. I don't care
how you get them, just get them. But you cannot
go into this like for example, real quick. There's no
excuse for them to lose nailor none.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
There's just no.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Excuse the zero. I don't care what he's getting offered.
You sign him and you bring him back to Seattle.
You got to improve the bullpen, you got to improve
your right field spot, and you got to improve the
bottom of that lineup. Those things need to be done,
and I don't give a crap how you do it.
If it takes spending money, then you should do that.
(22:47):
If you can get away with it without spending money,
then awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
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Speaker 1 (23:15):
Alright, I'm gonna go my gut here on Factor Fiction.
I think at the end of the year, I got
a funny feeling, guys that the Apple Cup win for
you dub is gonna look even better than we thought
it was going on.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
It looks better now than it did a month ago.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Asks for sure, Wazoo has gone toe to toe with
some of the best teams in the country. Virginia ole
Miss in the last three weeks, and they could have
won both games. They should have probably won the Virginia game.
But they are recovering machine right now. And until that
well drives up, I'm gonna keep going back to it.
And when I saw the number on the Wazoo Oregon
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State game in Corvallis this weekend, I thought Wazuo would
be favored by maybe seven or eight points.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
It's three and a half. Three and a half, guys.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Oregon State is god all like, they are terrible. If
this was the English Premier League, Jackson, they'd be pushing relegation.
That's how terrible they are. Washington State's not bad. They're
not bad at all. The way they've played against all Miss,
the way they played against Virginia. They took care of
Toledo went home over the weekend, Oregon States getting hammered
(24:18):
by everybody. They got one win over Lafayette. Is that
even a school? By the way, what is that? That
was Lafayette? So I like the Cubs giving three and
a half against the Beavers in Corvallis this weekend.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I don't know why the spread is what it is,
and that, honestly, Dave, that's the.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Only thing that scares Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Like because every time you say every time it seems
like we see a number, they're like, that looks like
the easiest cover of all time.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
The only thing that would concern me, if there is
one thing is this pac twelve brothers in Arms thing
that they like to promote. Right and they show up,
They're like, Oh, good to see you, guys. We're gonna
We're gonna take it easy on you. We appreciate you
because like you didn't bail on us the way the
Huskies or the Ducks di blah blah blah. Outside of that,
if Wazoo plays to their potential, they should win this
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game by double.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
So what I'm saying there may be a little wink wink,
nod nod, because you know, the Cougars and the Beavers
play twice this season.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
All they gotta do is win by four.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
We'll give you the win at Corvallis if we could
get No, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I'm not saying that at all.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I'm just saying that maybe they show up and they
look at it as more of a friendly game, right.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
Guys, all thing I do is win by four. Yeah,
that's it, just just win by four. And the way
corgan State. Look at the games, State games, they're freaking terrible.
They're getting hammered by everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
They play.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Got nothing, they got nothing going on in Corvallis. Have
you seen the crowds down there. It's sad, It is
sad as hell. So give me the coug's baby, let's go,
let's keep let's keep this. We're taking the three times now, right,
and we should have taken them four times. By the way,
you talk me out of the Virginia game a couple
of weeks ago, I'm blaming you for that. And by
the way, somebody tell Andrews that the the numbers are
(25:59):
wrong out of the website. Well we went three and two,
but Andrews has you going one and one on the
on the individual page, so we didn't.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
We gotta fix that.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
No, we went three and two because I went one
and one, You went two and oer and Jackson lost.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
That's three year.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Are you guys gonna still let me pick? Because I'm
ones again? Question you guys letting me pick?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Are you losing your confidence. It starts. Okay, the minute
you lose confidence, you're getting pulled.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I told you, guys, for weeks I've been losing confidence.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Then you're done, you're finished. Good, go take a time out. Good,
you're out.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You're out. You're skipping a week. I can't.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I can't put a guy in the field. Yes, and
don't who admits to me that he's got no last week?
Don't this team up? You guys are killing it this year.
Don't at this. We'll make a pick, but we'll assign
it to Jackson, will give you a bone. All right,
nobody has to know besides us. All right, it's just
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to hear that?
Speaker 5 (27:54):
What's it?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Dave? What's that? Dick say? We start in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson practice in full on Friday, but
did not play in the game this weekend ruled out Saturday,
blindsighting many in the gambling world. During NBC's Sunday Night
Football broadcast, our friend Mike Florio explaining what happened and
what punishments could come.
Speaker 9 (28:15):
When is a player who fully participated in practice not
fully participated in practice? It's a complicated question, but it's
actually a simple answer, and the rule's been on the
books for a very long time. If you're a starter
and you don't take all of the first team reps,
even if you fully participated, and what Lamar did was
participant on the scout team, you were limited.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
And the Ravens knew this and they got it wrong.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
He should have been listed as limited. John Hawker, the
coach of the team, total reporters after the game.
Speaker 9 (28:43):
It was an honest mistake, but that still sets the
Ravens up for some sort of a sanction. The question
is when the league looks into this, will they determine
there was some sort of an effort to conceal his
true status by saying he fully participated, maybe the Bears
would think he's gonna play. If they find something like that,
the punishment could be. For now, the Ravens are looking
at fines, they're looking at the potential loss and draft
picks and even suspensions are on the table based upon
(29:06):
what the NFL may find out. A Swords told me today,
the NFL understands gave we're having the NBA. It's very
bad optics and as the source said, it's an opportunity
for the league to make a very strong statement on
a very important topic.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
So I think the NFL needs to be really careful here, Dick,
because of this stuff happening in the NBA right now
with Terry Rozier and Chauncey Billips and everybody else. And
I think there's a real there's always been a part
of the fan base in any sport that thinks that
it's not on the up and up right. Referees are
on the chake, they're throwing games whatever. Now this stuff
with the NBA comes out, Now, this stuff with you,
(29:39):
This is bad timing for the NFL to have this
story come out the same week gets craped with the
NBA goes down.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So is it possible that it was an honest mistake, Sure,
it is totally.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I wonder though, if it's time for the NFL to
kind of have a third party, independent organization that actually
judges this stuff instead of leaving it up of the
coaches and staff to report it back to the league.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Wouldn't you be surprised though, if this violation reached suspension?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, no, I don't see that happening.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
I mean there might.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I don't see that.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
There might be fine.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I guarantee you a Goodell's pissed, though, yes, pis.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
I mean, Harba might get slapped, The ownership might get slapped.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
And I don't think it's gonna be anything. I don't
think so either, But I just think they gotta be
really careful. And I again, you know, having having an
independent organization that judges this stuff, that reports back to
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Have some bookworms, some computer dork or whatever.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Some guy with a pair of binoculars stands there at
practice and says, here's what I saw, and then he reports.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Back to the NFL. Right, and it's totally out of
the team's control. That'd be easy to do, to do.
All right, there we go. May Did you happen to
hear that?
Speaker 5 (30:46):
What's that dick?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yesterday on the.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
NFL and Fox pregame show, Terry Bradshaw explaining how we
talked to a pig dealer instead of Andy Reid last week.
Speaker 10 (30:56):
But the thing that I would worry about more so
in Washington is at the end of the day, I
text Andy Reid and I got a text back, and
I thought it was Andy Reid, But it's some guys
selling pigs, but I found it good.
Speaker 11 (31:09):
I shouldn't have told you all that, so y'all would.
Speaker 10 (31:11):
Have thought I actually talked to Andy Reid, but I
didn't really know people.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
I wish you could send people behind as because.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
They're like I think he was looking for a laugh.
I think Terry was looking for a laugh that never came.
And it's so bad. Like when Deshaun Foster did that
thing at Big Media Day, when you're purposely trying to
look for any guy. He's like, hello, Hello, anybody, anybody?
Thank you to the guy in the back who starts
laughing his butt off. Here's the thing about Terry Bradshaw,
that man is he is he kind of going down
(31:37):
the road of Leeke Horso or it might be time
to step aside. He's seventy seven, he hasn't played for
forty three years. I mean, this would be like when
you and I are like eight nine years old watching
somebody on TV.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
That Red Green played in like the thirties.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Honestly, I mean it might be time to say, hey,
let's let's let's get Terry key to the city and
move on.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I stopped watching pregame shows when I was like.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Twelve, Yeah, I don't either, So I don't.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
I can't tell you how lost Terry Bradshaw is. I
only see it from clips like this, so I I mean,
I can't observe it and say, hey, oh yeah, he's
definitely lost.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I don't watch it either. I mean, I'm toty William.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I just I don't have any interest in watching the
talk shows on ESPN. And You're a big fan of
all that stuff, but I'm not into that. I'm not
into the pregame shows. I don't have the patients for it.
I really have the patience to get through a game. Now,
you want me to watch a two hour pregame show.
Forget that? Jackson three, four, five, you pick which, Let's
go to five?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Five? All right? Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Last week on ESPN tip Off, the former NBA on
TNT crew, including Charles Barkley and Kenny Smith, talked about
the ongoing NBA gambling scandal.
Speaker 11 (32:53):
We have to realize it. Gambling is an addiction. The
addiction of it is what makes you make illogical decisions.
The last time I let you talk, Chuck, I will
wish because you're making me mad right here. Well, that
can make you mad, and you can make me mad.
I just have my opinion. You're gonna have yours. Man,
This ain't got nothing to do with damn gambling addiction.
This ain't got none to do with addiction. These dudes
(33:15):
are stupid. Why are they stupid? Under no circumstances? Can
you fix basketball games? Under no circumstances? Rosia makes twenty
six million dollars him bending giving people information or or
taking herself out of games? How much is he gonna
benefit taking himself out the game to get unders Well,
(33:36):
if he did that, you're proving my point. What do
you mean that a logical process? If you're making twenty
six million dollars to try to win fifty thousand, like,
that's illogical, So that you're proving my point.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
That's not an addiction.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
That's stupid.
Speaker 11 (33:52):
The same reason though someone goes and uses drugs, when
they drugs are drugs are addiction, they are gamlan addition,
let's just told its stupid. We own those two dudes.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Part Okay, So I think they're both right.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I think it's an addiction, and you can be an idiot.
I mean, it's possible to be an addicted idiot, okay,
And I think that there's certainly a chance that these
guys like who is it coming out there to day
shack how much money you need?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Well, when you're addicted to.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Something and you get your jolly's off something, whatever that is,
I don't care how much money you make. When you
have that kind of power over people and you can
make money and you're addicted to winning bets, it can
be absolutely addicting, There's no question about that. And you
can be a moron, which Terry Rogier is a moron.
You just see the story that came out about him
texting this guy when Lebron was not playing.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It's like, are you dumb? You're texting this to somebody.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
How about you pick up a phone and you call
somebody and don't leave a paper trail, you moron.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I mean, it's unbelievable. And by the way, Dick.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
This is all coming off the Johntey Porter crap from
a year and a half ago and when he got
busted and banned for life.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
See, I'm glad you brought John day Porter up because
that's the type of player I thought would get caught
up in something.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Right.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
He was on a one year, two million dollar contract.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Now, two million.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Dollars is a lot to me, and you yes by
that when you're on a one year contract and you
may never see that money again. And somebody's like, here,
here's a quarter of a mill to do this, right
or one hundred and fifty, that's significant when you're Terry
Rose here to Chuck's point, like, what the hell are
you doing?
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Man?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
You're risking throwing sure, avoiding your quarter of a billion
dollar contract.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
You may have lost a bunch of money though. That's
the thing because he's addicted. This is where it comes
back to addiction.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
But his next paycheck is going to be as much
as what the what he would have won in this.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
What if he was fifteen million bucks in the hole
to a bookie who knows. We have no idea, We
have no idea what he was, what he owed and
who he owed it to. He may have owed more
than he makes in the NBA. I have no idea
what this guy was doing. So I think they're both right.
I just think again, when the stories come out that
he was texting somebody about Lebron James not playing. That's
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where Chuck comes in, and he's exactly right that you
gotta be a world class dipstick to do something like that.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I mean, you gotta be just stupid as hell to
do something like.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
That, all right, three fifty seven Hugh Millan, who's not
stupid as hell. No, he'll join us next A little
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
So here's my question to you nerds. All right, here's
my question.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
If you were to take the collective Seattle fan base,
not just the three of us, but I mean like
the collective fan base, and you asked everybody, what is
the number one sports topic on your brain right now?
Would it be still coming out of the Mariner funk.
Would it be the Seahawks and coming off to buy
(00:34):
to play the Commanders. Would it be the NHL and
the cracking off to a hot start. Would it be
the NBA season starting. Would it be the Husky football
team at six and two coming off to win versus Illinois.
I'm not asking you what you would think. I'm just
asking you, guys, Jackson, you two, what would be the
collective answer if you asked all six million people in
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the state of Washington or three and a half in
the corridor. I guess let's just do that, because let's
face it, Eastern Washington's like Idaho.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
The hell with those people? What would they say? What
would they say? There's the number one thing on their
sports brain right now.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
So it's for me, I think the answer is pretty simple,
and it's still the heartbreak. I mean, we are less
than a week removed from one of the most devastating
emotional games of our lives as Seattle sports fans, and
it's gonna take more than a week to kind of
get over that. And especially maybe if the Seahawks had
played yesterday or if they played a night it would
be different, but that doesn't exist, so we're still in
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this limbo realm of post mortem Mariners.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Dick Well, I think.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Jackson is right that I think a Seahawk game would
have kind of refocused the attention a little bit. But
I think the Husky game and the way they played
refocus Husky fans because I know, you know, just looking
on social media and the people I follow, the people
that follow me, I mean, the Huskies, all of us.
I think the Husky fan base with that game on Saturday,
(01:58):
went like, oh crap, we like could run the table here,
and like it was kind of like the the Aha
moment that this team actually could be nine and two
going into the last week of the season and people
are looking at rankings and complaining why they're not ranked
and looking at power rankings.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
So I think for Husky fans, just not all six.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Million people collective collectively.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I mean, but there's twice as many Seahawks fans as
Husky fans right there.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
But there's a point where the Huskies can get to it,
like like if they were undefeated right now, you know, yeah,
maybe they'd take over. But I mean, do you agree
with Jackson? No, because I agree with Jackson.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I still think I think I would have agreed with
Jackson all the way up to probably this weekend. And
I think now that we turn the page to this
week world Series is in full, full throat and everybody's
just like, I don't even want to watch it. Yeah,
I think it's the Seahawks. I think it's the I
think it's the six and two Seahawks that a lot
of people are thinking, Wat second, we could be the
best team in the entire conference and make the super
(02:59):
Bowl when we thought it was probably still a year
or two down the road.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well, I think Jackson's right. There's no way of knowing
any of this. Obviously, nobody's gonna pull three million people,
But I think he's right. I'm just the sense that
I'm getting is that the number one thing that people
want to be us about is still the Mariners and
the and the thing that came out today in the paper.
You're write the letter that John Stanton wrote that we
can talk about in a minute here. But you know,
(03:23):
I got people coming up to me at the Queen
that you know obviously haven't seen for a week.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And that's part of it. Like, man, those Mariners, dude, Man, right,
It's just I think it's still it's still there. It's
a week later from shill there.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Despite what Paul Moyer wants us to do, I don't
think collectively the city has even gotten over this yet.
I think when the World Series ends and baseball kind
of goes away and we really make that transition everybody
officially into football, basketball and hockey, I think there's going
to be a time and place, maybe in a couple
of weeks, maybe a week and a half. Hell, it
might happen by this weekend if the Dodgers win three
(03:56):
in a row in LA that people will move on.
But you know, you're just sitting there, You're talking to
your buddies, and the number one conversation for at least
for me. I'm not saying that my gang or whatever
represents society, although we should.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Uh, it's the Mariners. It's the heartbreak of the Mariners.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And I'm sitting here right now at the Emerald Queen
and Youan and I were talking about this in cross talk,
and we talked about this last night at dinner with
some pals, that we should be having the freaking time
of our lives right now.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Man, would we be having the time of our lives?
I think we.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Would, and nobody knows for sure until we're actually there.
I think that everybody in Seattle would be walking around
and collectively would be happy as hell yep about Game
three of the World Series, because we'd be smiling our
asses off, Jackson right now.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
You're You're absolutely right. No matter if we were blown
out in games one and two in LA, we would
still be smelling our asses off. I think to the
point that you made, there's all this World Series going on.
I don't think it's the collective fan base in sports
people going you know, I'm turning this off at least
for maybe it's social media, But like I am paying
(05:00):
very I didn't even think I would, But I'm paying
very close attention to the World Series, and I am
just because I have such a deep rooting interest in
the Dodgers to win this thing. And because of that,
I'm constantly reminded of we should be here, we should
be here, we should be here, and that's feeding into
the emotion of, well, damn it, we're not there.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
That's interesting because five days ago we were talking about, Oh,
nobody's gonna watch this.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I was wrong about myself. I totally surprised myself with
how much I care. But I am rooting so hard
for the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I've watched maybe three innings of the of the first
two games, and I'm rooting.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
I'm obviously rooting for the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I love the bat, the two jacks that they had
in Game number two to counuple three to pull that
one out. But I mean, I still think that what
you'll find out, Jackson, now that we found out twenty
five years ago, and it'll be really cool. You'll absolutely
love this, is that spring training will come so fast.
It is so I remember like ninety five in two thousand,
(05:57):
in two thousand and one, those seasons last so long
that the off season seems like a blink of an eye,
and it's like pictures and catchers are reporting, and I
just remember being like, this is really cool.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
We got a great team and wet and a half
months exactly been in a half months until pitchers and
catchers November, December, January, and then you're and then you're
into the first month of pitchers and catchers in February. Man,
so it does come fast. I just I'm just constantly
reminded of what we could have had. Yep, constantly, whether
you flip on TV, and I'm thinking after game number two, God,
you know what, even game number one, we could.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Have beat these people. We could have beat these sons
of bitches.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
The Mariners could have won the whole fricking thing if
they would have found a way to get in. I mean, look,
I mean, I know I'm being maybe a bit of
a homer, but the Dodgers' bullpen is not very.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Good, and you've seen what can happen to that offense.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I mean, there are their offense has not done a
ton in the first two games of that series. Now,
maybe they explode tonight against Max Schurz or I, by
the way, got a funny feeling they will just hammer
him tonight in Game number three, because you do to
a forty year old what you're supposed to do to
a forty year old, and you run his ass out
of there. I think that that's what the Dodgers do tonight.
So I love the Dodgers in Game three. But I'm
kind of with Jackson. I have not paid as much
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attention as I normally do, but I've paid a little
more attention than I thought I was going to. And
maybe it's because I just I don't know, man, Maybe
I just like the pain, right.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Maybe I'm a massacrest.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I just like being response being reminded every fricking day
of what we could have had and how close we came.
And it hits me and just random times. I'm driving
home on Saturday afternoon, Boom, it just hit me.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
In the car.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Man, we were eight outs away driving to work. Boom,
we were eight outs away. So I don't know if
that feeling is really ever gonna go away. I still
think about a lot of losses, right, I think about
what happened in two thousand, think about two thousand and one,
think about some Husky games. You know that we've been
through and Seahawk games and all that, And I don't
think that stuff ever really truly goes away.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
It just kind of maybe dissipates a little bit. But
I don't know, man.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I mean, i'd be curious to hear from the text
line four nine, four or five one about if there's all,
if there's room for a few sports topics in your brain,
what's taking up the majority already of your brain power
right now?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I'd love to I'm still living in misery for the
Mariners or have you moved on?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I'd love to ask both of you, guys, because I've
kind of grown up in the social media world and
like for the for the big two Seattle sports heartbreaks
of my life being to pick at the one and
being this loss, there's there's been this kind of social
media and also the news cycle where pretty much every
day it just turns over new pieces of news. Was
there a Seattle sports heartbreak comparable to these pre social
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media era? And then the part B of that, and
the most important part is how long did it take
you to get over that?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Well? The ninety four Nuggets series is number one. That's
number one.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Obviously when they lost, they were the number one seed
in the Western Conference and they got beat by Denver,
the first and one seed ever to lose to an
eighth seed.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
That took me a month again Number one, okay.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, and then there's another one for me, which is
kind of this is like before, I mean, social media
was around, but not like it is now. When the
Huskies lost to Yukon in two thousand and six rushing DC,
they were leading minute and a half to go and
they went to overtime, Rashad fing Anderson to Mike Jensen, fowl,
all that stuff that we're talking about. Brandon Roy got
(09:07):
that BS technical. It was twenty years ago, and I
remember walking around Washington, d C. The next day because
I was waiting for a flight to go out that night.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I was like in a daze.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I just couldn't believe what, how in the world did
we not win that game to go to the Elite
eight and they would have gone to the Final four,
because you remember it was George Mason and kN and
Yukon totally took him for granted and they got beat
and George Mason went to the Final four.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So that took me a long time.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Guys, I just think the closer you get to something again,
it's not about comparing college basketball to the NFL, or
the Huskies of the Seahawks, or the Mariners to the whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
When you get that close, when you're eight outs away.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
When you're leading with a minute and a half to go,
on the cusp of something you've never done, then it
hits you differently. It doesn't need to be the most
popular sport in the world, doesn't need to be the
most popular sport for you on your own radar, right,
But when you're that close to getting it done, the
the pain, the hurt, the impact just drives even higher
(10:07):
up the list because of how close you were. And
I got vivid memories of sitting right behind the Husky
bench in Washington, DC in two thousand and six and
Cam Dowler came over to the Husky bench when the
Huskies had the lead with two minutes ago, and he
looks at the entire group and I'm sitting like right here, Dick,
like five feet away.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
He says, we got two minutes, and my god, my
heart just jumped.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Out of my chest. I'm thinking, these guys are gonna
go to the Elite eight and they're two minutes away,
and they ripped it away from.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
That's why it's just a fascinating kind of discussion that
you and Ian were having, Like, what would be our
mindset right now if we were in the World Series.
And I think for me, who knows really right, right,
I'm just guessing based upon kind of prior experience with
you know, making it or not making it to championship games.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
I think leading up to the game, I think you're right.
I think we would just be on absolute cloud nine.
We would be floating around everywhere.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
It doesn't matter if it side Ray's rain and forty
eight degrees, be like, I don't care.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
We're in the freaking World Series.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Once the game started, though, I think we would be
just so nervous because we were like, oh my god,
we're here. He might as well do it, Cal said,
and go win the bleeping things.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Maybe you're right, I mean again, nobody knows for sure.
All we can do is just gauge past experiences, and
I'm really curious to know if we ever do get there,
how we will feel. I got a feeling that it
might be the opposite, Dick, that we might just walk
into that stadium and not care and not give it
damn and you're looking at people you've known forever, You've
(11:39):
looking at other ticket holders and ushers that you've bumped
into for decades, and you're just looking at him and
you're smiling. We're in the World Series. And I've always
said to myself, I'll never go to a World Series game.
I've never been to one, and I would never go
to one until the Mariners are in it. And I
would have been able to say on the air right now,
we're two hours away or an hour and forty five
away from walking into that stadium and crossing it off
(12:03):
my list, and I finally, for the first time, at
fifty two years old, get to go to a World
Series game, and that would have been everything to me, everything,
And I would have walked in there and I would
have been like a pig and crap, absolute pig and crap,
hugging people high five and people fist bumping kids.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I mean, I may have been skipping down the concourse
in that stadium, Jackson if the Mariners are playing in
the World Series, So I can't say for sure, and
Dick could certainly be right that once the game gets going,
maybe we're nervous as all, but I can just imagine collectively.
It's hard to imagine collectively in general terms, an entire
city being in a good mood at the same time.
(12:43):
I think that's what would have been happening right now.
If you could, like, you know, check the mood meter
of the entire city of Seattle.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Like we were in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I think everybody would be happy at Crape. You would
have as you would have a city Jackson that would
be in as good a collect of mood as they've
ever been in.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
And again, I don't think it would have mattered what
happens in game one and two. You could lose both
of them eight to nothing, and hey, we're sure we're
down to nothing, but we're against one of the greatest
teams ever assembled, and the reality is we have the
World Series in our building. Like that, it would have
created that moment, and it would have created that happiness
no matter what.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I mean, who knows.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Maybe on the other side, as Dick saying, you know,
go win the whole bleeping thing, maybe that would have
taken such pressure off of the players where they're like,
listen this, we're happy to be here. We don't have
the we are playing with house money, all the pressures
on the Dodgers to take care of business. Maybe we
would have won, won one of those games like Toronto did,
and and suddenly we're coming home one to one, saying
(13:44):
to ourselves in that mindset, to Dick's point of oh
my god, could we pull a miracle? And David goliathe
all those things, So I don't know. Maybe I would
have had nerves, but I think, no matter if it's
the nervousness of oh my gosh, could we win or
just the happy to be there, the collective would have
been outrageous amounts of joy.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
But I would would like to find out would we
be find out would we.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Fight out more of it than Toronto though? I mean,
I mean to Toronto's matching them punch for punch.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, we're we I mean, like, oh, even David, Oh,
I see. I mean like you.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Said, David, and I don't. I don't necessarily see David
and Glith. When I see the Mariners and the Dodgers,
I see underdog.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
I think the.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Country would look at it that way because it's the
Dodgers in Seattle. Vegas might not look at it that way,
but the country would look at it that way. Yeah,
I mean, look, well, you know all of us have
said the Dodgers maybe were kind of bored during the
regular season. They were kind of banged up as well,
and probably should have won a hundred games if they
would have done what they were supposed to do in
the regular season, and they won one hundred and three
hundred and four games, and yeah, it probably would have
felt like a David versus Golias scenario. But you can
(14:42):
do that in baseball. It's it's harder to do that
in the NBA, in the NFL. It's easier to do
it in Major League Baseball because of the way the
game goes. You're talking about a seven game sample of
one hundred and sixty two game seasons. So I would
just like to find out And look, I mean, obviously
want to talk some dogs.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
We'll talk about dogs with you. At four.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
There was an article in the paper today, or not
an article, but a letter that was written by John Stanton,
who you know, made it sound like they're motivated, you know,
motivated to go out and get this thing finished and
and get to the World Series. And you heard that
little kind of you know smirk there from Jackson. I
just wonder if fans feel the same way, because there's
a lot of that coming out on social media, like, yeah, right, right,
(15:22):
there's a lot of that coming out yea on social media.
So is it deserved? Is it not deserved? I mean,
everybody has their take on it. So let's let's come
back and hit on that. Dogs get a win over Illinois,
not good enough to put them into the top twenty five,
but now they got three games in a row where
you can really envision a scenario where if they just
play the kind of football they're supposed to play, they
(15:43):
could be nine and two heading into the Oregon game
and maybe, just maybe at nine and two would have
a shot at some kind of playoff conversation if they
could beat the Ducks. And for those saying with it
not even ranked, how could you have that conversation? Look
twenty twenty two, they were six and two, they were unranked,
and they beat Oregon States and they started climbing up
(16:03):
the rankings. They went from twenty five to seventeen, to
thirteen to twelve and eventually finished at number eight in
the country.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
And they were in this exact same scenario, Dick.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
The difference is they had two games against top twenty
five teams versus one of them, and that was Oregon
State and Oregon. So again, can you go nine and two,
because that's what's gonna take. I mean, one more loss
than they're finished totally. They might be finished now, but
nine and two, or excuse me, nine and three, they
got no shot. So win these next three against UCLA, Perding, Wisconsin,
(16:36):
and let's make the Oregon game really meaningful. We'll come
back in Yak about that, talk about the letter that
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Speaker 2 (17:24):
Did you guys read the article? Keep saying article? Why
do we keep saying article?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
The letter that was written by John Stanton that was
in the Seattle Times over the weekend. Jackson, you read it?
Pick You're read it all right? Well, I mean I
want to read the whole thing on the air. It
basically talks about how heartbroken he was about the way
the season ended. We all were never came closer to
bringing the first World Series to Seattle.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
We get it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Says it was the toughest return flight of their careers
coming back home. Obviously, Northwest deserves a World Series. So
he says, I know we're to get there. This is
the beginning of a special era of Mariner baseball. There
is work to do to take that final step, and
the work starts now. We can't wait to get back
to t ball. But park with all of you, thank
you again for being the best fans in baseball. Goal Mariners.
(18:13):
From John Stanton. So I got about four or five
minutes here before factor fiction.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Go around the room.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I'll give you might take on a second on your
reaction Jackson to that letter that John stant Rup.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
I liked it.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I think it was he didn't need to put that out,
so I appreciate him doing that. And it's sort of
you know, the work starts now, as is sort of
the line that caught I think a lot of fans,
which is obviously like, Okay, does that mean you're going
to go fix the seven, eight nine hitters? Doesn't mean
you're going to go make sure to bring Naylor back
and bring Polanco back x y Z. And it's the
(18:46):
it's the contrasting tones between we have work to do, yeah,
but John, we also know you have a budget, and
it's we've made it very very clear that you have
to work within these walls of the budget. So when
this work you have to do. How much work is it, John,
like when you put it, when you put up the
whiteboard of like work to do this offseason? Is it
as many boxes as the fans think it is? Because
(19:07):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
It is so little skeptical than Jackson'll but yeah, okay,
all right, Dick, got Yeah, I think that's fair.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I mean, I I would maybe go a little slightly
less skeptical than Jackson but not a lot less skeptical
than Jackson. I mean, it's one thing to say, I
know we're gonna get there and there's work to do
to take that final step. I think it's another thing
to say we are going to do what it takes
to take.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
That final step.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
And he did not say that, so I think it
had he said, had he taken that further, then I
would have believed as a fan. Oh wait a second,
this run here actually changed John Stanton. Yeah, yeah, And
I'm not sure that this run changed John Stanton. I
think that the number is what the number is, the
(19:53):
one hundred and sixty whatever our number was at the
end of the year, which Jerry has said that's gonna
be the number that starts next year. I think they're
gonna hold pretty hard and fast to that number to
start twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Well, look, I don't know. I mean, I I hope
it changed him. I think if it didn't change him,
or doesn't motivate him even more so than he already was,
then he's not human. There's no way as a human
being that you cannot be even more motivated now coming
(20:26):
that close to win a World Series and look, I
mean doing what it takes. I mean, that's the guy
of the beholder, right, Like he may do one thing
and say oh, that's what it takes, and we may
say no.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
It's not right.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
So that's all up for interpretation. And I would just
say this, I don't really give it. Damn how much
money they spend over the offseason. I don't because I
just want good players fill the holes.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Man. I don't care, and I don't care how you
fill him.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
If you got to fill him by paying a guy
fifty million bucks, then fine, that's one way. But if
you can get the same guy for five million, great,
I don't care. I mean that's what people I think
kind of miss here. I don't care how much they spend,
as long as they spend the money or get the
right player.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I don't care how they do it.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Let's say they get a guy from Japan that flies
under everybody's radar and he's worth fifty million, but we
get him for a quarter million.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Great, whatever. I just want good players.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
That's why people I just cringe when people say things like, well,
all you want to do is spend money, Yeah, because
spending money is spending money on good players. I don't
want to spend money on bad players. I want to
spend money on good players.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Sometimes it's spending money, other times it's just spending money
on over price play.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Okay, but that's fine.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
But if they're good players, and I think they're good players,
and there's a reason why I'm doing that because I
want good players.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I don't care how they get them.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And the problem for me is that the Mariners historically
under this ownership group, have cut off one channel, one
avenue towards getting those good players, and that's free agents.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
They haven't done it.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I mean, let's face it, guys, they didn't do crap
over the offseason last year year.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I was more disappointed going into this season than any
other season.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Blew a ten game lead with the best ERA in
the American League and that didn't motivate him to do anything.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Last year nothing, they got lucky with Polanko. Nothing.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So let's hope that this run being eight outs away
has changed them. And again, if they can get those
great players another way, then that's fine. I don't care
how you get them, just get them. But you cannot
go into this like for example, real quick. There's no
excuse for them to lose nailor none.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
There's just no.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Excuse the zero. I don't care what he's getting offered.
You sign him and you bring him back to Seattle.
You got to improve the bullpen, you got to improve
your right field spot, and you got to improve the
bottom of that lineup. Those things need to be done,
and I don't give a crap how you do it.
If it takes spending money, then you should do that.
(22:47):
If you can get away with it without spending money,
then awesome.
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Speaker 1 (23:15):
Alright, I'm gonna go my gut here on Factor Fiction.
I think at the end of the year, I got
a funny feeling, guys that the Apple Cup win for
you dub is gonna look even better than we thought
it was going on.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
It looks better now than it did a month ago.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Asks for sure, Wazoo has gone toe to toe with
some of the best teams in the country. Virginia ole
Miss in the last three weeks, and they could have
won both games. They should have probably won the Virginia game.
But they are recovering machine right now. And until that
well drives up, I'm gonna keep going back to it.
And when I saw the number on the Wazoo Oregon
(23:50):
State game in Corvallis this weekend, I thought Wazuo would
be favored by maybe seven or eight points.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
It's three and a half. Three and a half, guys.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Oregon State is god all like, they are terrible. If
this was the English Premier League, Jackson, they'd be pushing relegation.
That's how terrible they are. Washington State's not bad. They're
not bad at all. The way they've played against all Miss,
the way they played against Virginia. They took care of
Toledo went home over the weekend, Oregon States getting hammered
(24:18):
by everybody. They got one win over Lafayette. Is that
even a school? By the way, what is that? That
was Lafayette? So I like the Cubs giving three and
a half against the Beavers in Corvallis this weekend.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I don't know why the spread is what it is,
and that, honestly, Dave, that's the.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Only thing that scares Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Like because every time you say every time it seems
like we see a number, they're like, that looks like
the easiest cover of all time.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
The only thing that would concern me, if there is
one thing is this pac twelve brothers in Arms thing
that they like to promote. Right and they show up,
They're like, Oh, good to see you, guys. We're gonna
We're gonna take it easy on you. We appreciate you
because like you didn't bail on us the way the
Huskies or the Ducks di blah blah blah. Outside of that,
if Wazoo plays to their potential, they should win this
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game by double.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
So what I'm saying there may be a little wink wink,
nod nod, because you know, the Cougars and the Beavers
play twice this season.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
All they gotta do is win by four.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
We'll give you the win at Corvallis if we could
get No, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I'm not saying that at all.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I'm just saying that maybe they show up and they
look at it as more of a friendly game, right.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
Guys, all thing I do is win by four. Yeah,
that's it, just just win by four. And the way
corgan State. Look at the games, State games, they're freaking terrible.
They're getting hammered by everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
They play.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Got nothing, they got nothing going on in Corvallis. Have
you seen the crowds down there. It's sad, It is
sad as hell. So give me the coug's baby, let's go,
let's keep let's keep this. We're taking the three times now, right,
and we should have taken them four times. By the way,
you talk me out of the Virginia game a couple
of weeks ago, I'm blaming you for that. And by
the way, somebody tell Andrews that the the numbers are
(25:59):
wrong out of the website. Well we went three and two,
but Andrews has you going one and one on the
on the individual page, so we didn't.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
We gotta fix that.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
No, we went three and two because I went one
and one, You went two and oer and Jackson lost.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
That's three year.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Are you guys gonna still let me pick? Because I'm
ones again? Question you guys letting me pick?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Are you losing your confidence. It starts. Okay, the minute
you lose confidence, you're getting pulled.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I told you, guys, for weeks I've been losing confidence.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Then you're done, you're finished. Good, go take a time out. Good,
you're out.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You're out. You're skipping a week. I can't.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I can't put a guy in the field. Yes, and
don't who admits to me that he's got no last week?
Don't this team up? You guys are killing it this year.
Don't at this. We'll make a pick, but we'll assign
it to Jackson, will give you a bone. All right,
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Speaker 9 (28:15):
When is a player who fully participated in practice not
fully participated in practice? It's a complicated question, but it's
actually a simple answer, and the rule's been on the
books for a very long time. If you're a starter
and you don't take all of the first team reps,
even if you fully participated, and what Lamar did was
participant on the scout team, you were limited.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
And the Ravens knew this and they got it wrong.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
He should have been listed as limited. John Hawker, the
coach of the team, total reporters after the game.
Speaker 9 (28:43):
It was an honest mistake, but that still sets the
Ravens up for some sort of a sanction. The question
is when the league looks into this, will they determine
there was some sort of an effort to conceal his
true status by saying he fully participated, maybe the Bears
would think he's gonna play. If they find something like that,
the punishment could be. For now, the Ravens are looking
at fines, they're looking at the potential loss and draft
picks and even suspensions are on the table based upon
(29:06):
what the NFL may find out. A Swords told me today,
the NFL understands gave we're having the NBA. It's very
bad optics and as the source said, it's an opportunity
for the league to make a very strong statement on
a very important topic.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
So I think the NFL needs to be really careful here, Dick,
because of this stuff happening in the NBA right now
with Terry Rozier and Chauncey Billips and everybody else. And
I think there's a real there's always been a part
of the fan base in any sport that thinks that
it's not on the up and up right. Referees are
on the chake, they're throwing games whatever. Now this stuff
with the NBA comes out, Now, this stuff with you,
(29:39):
This is bad timing for the NFL to have this
story come out the same week gets craped with the
NBA goes down.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So is it possible that it was an honest mistake, Sure,
it is totally.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I wonder though, if it's time for the NFL to
kind of have a third party, independent organization that actually
judges this stuff instead of leaving it up of the
coaches and staff to report it back to the league.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Wouldn't you be surprised though, if this violation reached suspension?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, no, I don't see that happening.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
I mean there might.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I don't see that.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
There might be fine.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I guarantee you a Goodell's pissed, though, yes, pis.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
I mean, Harba might get slapped, The ownership might get slapped.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
And I don't think it's gonna be anything. I don't
think so either, But I just think they gotta be
really careful. And I again, you know, having having an
independent organization that judges this stuff, that reports back to
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Have some bookworms, some computer dork or whatever.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Some guy with a pair of binoculars stands there at
practice and says, here's what I saw, and then he reports.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Back to the NFL. Right, and it's totally out of
the team's control. That'd be easy to do, to do.
All right, there we go. May Did you happen to
hear that?
Speaker 5 (30:46):
What's that dick?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yesterday on the.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
NFL and Fox pregame show, Terry Bradshaw explaining how we
talked to a pig dealer instead of Andy Reid last week.
Speaker 10 (30:56):
But the thing that I would worry about more so
in Washington is at the end of the day, I
text Andy Reid and I got a text back, and
I thought it was Andy Reid, But it's some guys
selling pigs, but I found it good.
Speaker 11 (31:09):
I shouldn't have told you all that, so y'all would.
Speaker 10 (31:11):
Have thought I actually talked to Andy Reid, but I
didn't really know people.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
I wish you could send people behind as because.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
They're like I think he was looking for a laugh.
I think Terry was looking for a laugh that never came.
And it's so bad. Like when Deshaun Foster did that
thing at Big Media Day, when you're purposely trying to
look for any guy. He's like, hello, Hello, anybody, anybody?
Thank you to the guy in the back who starts
laughing his butt off. Here's the thing about Terry Bradshaw,
that man is he is he kind of going down
(31:37):
the road of Leeke Horso or it might be time
to step aside. He's seventy seven, he hasn't played for
forty three years. I mean, this would be like when
you and I are like eight nine years old watching
somebody on TV.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
That Red Green played in like the thirties.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Honestly, I mean it might be time to say, hey,
let's let's let's get Terry key to the city and
move on.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I stopped watching pregame shows when I was like.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Twelve, Yeah, I don't either, So I don't.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
I can't tell you how lost Terry Bradshaw is. I
only see it from clips like this, so I I mean,
I can't observe it and say, hey, oh yeah, he's
definitely lost.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I don't watch it either. I mean, I'm toty William.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I just I don't have any interest in watching the
talk shows on ESPN. And You're a big fan of
all that stuff, but I'm not into that. I'm not
into the pregame shows. I don't have the patients for it.
I really have the patience to get through a game. Now,
you want me to watch a two hour pregame show.
Forget that? Jackson three, four, five, you pick which, Let's
go to five?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Five? All right? Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Last week on ESPN tip Off, the former NBA on
TNT crew, including Charles Barkley and Kenny Smith, talked about
the ongoing NBA gambling scandal.
Speaker 11 (32:53):
We have to realize it. Gambling is an addiction. The
addiction of it is what makes you make illogical decisions.
The last time I let you talk, Chuck, I will
wish because you're making me mad right here. Well, that
can make you mad, and you can make me mad.
I just have my opinion. You're gonna have yours. Man,
This ain't got nothing to do with damn gambling addiction.
This ain't got none to do with addiction. These dudes
(33:15):
are stupid. Why are they stupid? Under no circumstances? Can
you fix basketball games? Under no circumstances? Rosia makes twenty
six million dollars him bending giving people information or or
taking herself out of games? How much is he gonna
benefit taking himself out the game to get unders Well,
(33:36):
if he did that, you're proving my point. What do
you mean that a logical process? If you're making twenty
six million dollars to try to win fifty thousand, like,
that's illogical, So that you're proving my point.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
That's not an addiction.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
That's stupid.
Speaker 11 (33:52):
The same reason though someone goes and uses drugs, when
they drugs are drugs are addiction, they are gamlan addition,
let's just told its stupid. We own those two dudes.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Part Okay, So I think they're both right.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I think it's an addiction, and you can be an idiot.
I mean, it's possible to be an addicted idiot, okay,
And I think that there's certainly a chance that these
guys like who is it coming out there to day
shack how much money you need?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Well, when you're addicted to.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Something and you get your jolly's off something, whatever that is,
I don't care how much money you make. When you
have that kind of power over people and you can
make money and you're addicted to winning bets, it can
be absolutely addicting, There's no question about that. And you
can be a moron, which Terry Rogier is a moron.
You just see the story that came out about him
texting this guy when Lebron was not playing.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It's like, are you dumb? You're texting this to somebody.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
How about you pick up a phone and you call
somebody and don't leave a paper trail, you moron.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I mean, it's unbelievable. And by the way, Dick.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
This is all coming off the Johntey Porter crap from
a year and a half ago and when he got
busted and banned for life.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
See, I'm glad you brought John day Porter up because
that's the type of player I thought would get caught
up in something.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Right.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
He was on a one year, two million dollar contract.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Now, two million.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Dollars is a lot to me, and you yes by
that when you're on a one year contract and you
may never see that money again. And somebody's like, here,
here's a quarter of a mill to do this, right
or one hundred and fifty, that's significant when you're Terry
Rose here to Chuck's point, like, what the hell are
you doing?
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Man?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
You're risking throwing sure, avoiding your quarter of a billion
dollar contract.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
You may have lost a bunch of money though. That's
the thing because he's addicted. This is where it comes
back to addiction.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
But his next paycheck is going to be as much
as what the what he would have won in this.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
What if he was fifteen million bucks in the hole
to a bookie who knows. We have no idea, We
have no idea what he was, what he owed and
who he owed it to. He may have owed more
than he makes in the NBA. I have no idea
what this guy was doing. So I think they're both right.
I just think again, when the stories come out that
he was texting somebody about Lebron James not playing. That's
(36:09):
where Chuck comes in, and he's exactly right that you
gotta be a world class dipstick to do something like that.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I mean, you gotta be just stupid as hell to
do something like.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
That, all right, three fifty seven Hugh Millan, who's not
stupid as hell. No, he'll join us next A little
more four with you coming up on ninety three three
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