October 27, 2025 • 25 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Hugh Millen about some college football job openings, UW’s win over Illinois and season ahead, plus Seahawks football, then the guys listen and react to some of Jedd Fisch’s press conference today.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, let's get to it a little more for
or their friend Hugh Millan, who rejoins us now on
the radio show, Hueye. I heard you on the air
today with Ian Ferns and Greg Cosell, which a fact
you did a really good job with those guys. But
I felt myself kind of wanting more.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh okay, well here we are.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
That's why we brought you back for a little summer
at four.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Lots of stuff something, yes, yes, lots of stuff to
get you. Why don't we start off before we talk
hawks and dogs and and all that stuff?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Why are you just kind of weigh in on this?
All these firings in college football, James Franklin out, Billy
Napier out, obviously, Brian Kelly got let go over the weekend.
They owned fifty four million dollars, And you know, I'm
just I'm just, first of all, curious if if Jetfish
were to ever leave you, Dub, which you know one
day he will, right we can talk about when. But
(00:53):
if he were ever to leave you, Dub, would you
have any interest in Brian Kelly or James Franklin to
repla Despite the fact they were both fired from their
last stop.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
No, okay no, and particularly Brian Kelly. I'm not a
fan of his style whatsoever. He's sixty four years old.
I'd be a hard pass on him. James Franklin would
be a little more intriguing. I don't know. I just
I saw how Tyrone and Willingham viewed Washington. Kevin Sumlin
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after you know, a Texas guy having the A and
M job, how he viewed Arizona. There's a lot many
more I can add to that list. I think that
when you when you get fired from the real elite
programs and then you step down a notch, I don't
know's it's hard how many guys have succeeded in that, right,
(01:47):
you know, how many guys have gone from a top
ten or twelve blue blood down to I'm gonna put
Washington in maybe a top fifteen, you know, not you know,
knocking on the door, want to be blue blood, like
almost a blue blood?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
That sounds like a pejorative. I didn't mean to say,
but you know, I think Washington isn't quite in the
in the ranks with the Ohio States, the Michigans. Well,
let's just talk about the teams that just washing it
may be commensurate with LSU, but I think history Penn State, Yeah, yeah,
I think they would view that as a little bit
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of a drop off, and I don't want that in
the mind of the Husky coach.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Here the talking point on the boat with the hundreds
of folks that I was leaving Husky Stadium with we're
twofold on Saturday. One was just the offense clicking like
unbelievably well. But number two was the officiating. And it's
I think it's a little easier to complain about officiating
when you win a football game than when you lose
a football game, because it doesn't sound like whining. But
(02:51):
I did not hear Husky Stadium louder all day than
on those two interceptions that were called back during penalties.
So can you talk about the Takario Davis pass interference
and whether you thought that was legit and also the
personal foul roughing the passer call that wiped out another interception.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, I'm not big on the roughing the quarterback. I
think that it's got to just jump out at you
like a thousand, right, like a thousand out of a thousand.
I've got a you know, guys, in a bar, in
a big bar. I guess it would be if there
was a thousand. But so I think that standard to
me in college football targeting, you know, roughing the passer,
(03:32):
I just I cringe when I see that too often.
The past interference I have I'm a little bit more
nebulous about in the following regard. I think that you know,
you just look and you say, there are times where
the play is materially affected by not a lot of contact.
(03:52):
And it's hard for us as football fans too, you know,
when we see guys smacking the hell out of each
other and literally driving them in the ground, that relatively
soft contact could materially affect the play. It's kind of
like in basketball, what is the what is the the
the the shot foul that most effects material effects a play.
(04:17):
It's that you know, you get the guy on the wrist,
you know, just below his hand, and you know, the
fact is the guy the rules say you're entitled to
fall through on your on your shot, and if you
get hit right there, it's gonna caut It doesn't seem
like much, but it's going that particular foul. Now, you know,
a big guy getting his hip, you know, uh hit,
(04:40):
you know on a four foot skyhook or something. You
know you're gonna let that contact go. But but are
you following me? There's there's some contact that I think
is more material than others. And there's none more material
in my mind than an offensive receiver fighting. And that
could be a defender as well, if he goes for
a pick but at that last minute extending his arm
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and you saw in this case the Illinois defender his
path got reverted. The Illinois receiver rather, his path got
reverted towards the goal line. Davis kind of launched himself
backwards towards the back of the end zone. I think
that there was an effect. I would just turn it
around this way. If it was Danzel Boston running that
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post and somebody shoved him with a straight arm and
you could see Boston has veered off his course. At
the very least, Boston would have had a chance to,
you know, just get his hands up and deflect it.
Play defender in the last second, right, I think that
we'd be saying, yeah, that's material contact. So for me,
I kind of thought it barely crept over the threshold
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for pass interfairce.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, well, Hugh, you got people talking. CFP was written
about in the newspaper this morning. Dick and I brought
it up a couple of weeks ago before the Michigan game,
and then they lost to Michigan and the talk kind
of died down a little bit at least on this
radio show. And look, I'm just gonna tell you you
just a quick history lesson here and then you can
jump in, Hugh and take the floor. In twenty twenty two,
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three years ago under Kalin his first year, right, they
were six and two, just like they are now, and
they were unranked. They eventually climbed up to number eight
in the country. They beat number twenty five Oregon State
number six Oregon. They went from twenty five to seventeen
to thirteen to twelve, and then they beat Sark in
the bowl game end of the year at number eight.
(06:33):
So the Husky team just three years ago was six
and two and made a run to the top twelve before.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
The season even got to the bowl. To the bowl game.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
The difference is that team had two games left against
ranked teams.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
This team's got one.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Honestly, Hugh, nine to two before the Oregon game has
to be guaranteed. You gotta beat Purdue, beat Ucla, beat
Wisconsin and then make the Organ game mean something. And
then for me, Huey, I think kind of keep rooting
for those second and third teams and the big conferences
to fall off. Virginia, Ole, Miss Texas Tech, Cincinnati. Get
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get rid of those teams, get rid of that nonsense,
and the Huskies keep winning and maybe they have an
outside shot.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
But there's a lot of work to be done.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Are you even allowing yourself, first of all, to think
that they could be nine and two before that game
with Oregon and maybe even win it and maybe be
in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, I think they can be nine and two. Yeah,
I think that there. They made a vault there offensively.
When they get the left side of their offensive line back,
maybe there's a renewed vigor. Now we're still only what
nine days removed from that kind of pratfall in ann Arbor.
So I think this team has yet to declare itself.
(07:49):
But I think that Wisconsin purduer Ucla, I think it's
more likely than not that you're gonna go three and
ohero right in those three games and then at home.
I don't know, man, I'll tell you More, the quarterback
for for Oregon. When I watched him in September, I thought, Okay,
this guy's gonna be a Heisman candidate. I thought him
(08:11):
against Indiana he was so non competitive. It wasn't just
he had a bad game. We've all seen hundreds of
bad games in the and the guy who's speaking right now,
you've seen him have, you know, scores of them. But
this was something more to me that I feel like
(08:31):
I'm speaking in puns, but but this was something more
for more, there was there was a complete lack of
answers against Indiana. Now is Washington's defense Indiana's defense far
from it right now? But on the road, who knows
how the weather go. I don't know. I think it's
possible that in a in a frenzied environment, I think
(08:55):
you get that upset. And and you're right to look
back at the last numbers and you cite those. I
think those are apt. But I'm looking really keenly at
a year ago, because that's your your first playoff game, right, right,
playoff season right, And a couple of things strike me.
First of all, a lot of two loss teams. All
three of the SEC teams were two loss teams.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
The national champion lost team.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Then yeah, Penn State and Ohio State out of the
Big Ten. Now here's the thing about the they call
them the power for conferences. You know how many teams
went from the Big twelve one one one team and
two from the ACC. So this is a this is
a front loaded Big Ten and SEC. There were four
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teams from the Big Ten, three from the SEC again
all with two losses. You had Notre Dame at eleven
to one. They didn't have to play a conference championship game.
But I look, and I kind of really focus on
there were seven teams from the combined SEC in the
Big ten. Is that does that seem logical to you, guys?
And I'm not sure that maybe they're given a tie
(10:07):
that if there's seven again, it might go to the SEC,
who only had three a year ago, whereas and the
Big Ten had four. Obviously, you got to judge each
team by its merit, but if it comes down to
shaving those games, that could be a factor. But four
teams went from the Big Ten, you got to figure
(10:28):
that could happen. And I think at least three are
gonna go and and if you can, if you can
go four and over over these next four games, I
think you've got I think probably better than a fifty
chance of making the playoff. And I think the chance
of doing that, Dave I mentioned to you, you know,
(10:49):
I think somewhere between a third and forty percent, Dick,
I think about between thirty three and forty That's what
I think Washington's chance of going four and oh are
you know so? Probably probably a little a little less
probable than then, uh than not, but but I think
a real healthy chance that they could they could do
(11:10):
that and pull the upsets and and find themselves in
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Hugh, I got to fall up on what you said
about the left side the line there. Uh, offense totally
looked different with Mills and Willis back there. Do you
think that Michigan game goes differently with those two guys
and what was the effect that they had, especially on
the run game.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, I think when you talk about a three score loss,
I I it's hard for me to say their presence
could have been the factor. Now they were they were
close in the third court, you know it was was
uh that the reason for Demand's you know, near pick
six in the third quarter. Uh, No, that was a
quick you know, that was just slant flat that balls
just coming out all right. But you could say with
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the left side of the line, you know, maybe you
run better, and maybe the control of the game, it
could be a little bit of wasted energy. I would
just say, moving forward, I think Washington responded to the
loss the right way. They they played a good but
not great I think Illinois was the perfect sweet spot
where they were good enough to get Washington's real bona
(12:13):
fide attention, but not so formidable that that that that
they'd have a tough time beating them. So I think
Illinois presented exactly the right team. You know, bad weather
they're there, the strength of their offenses, their their passing game.
You know, I think a lot of things fell in
Washington's favor, but I think credit Washington for having the
(12:35):
right response to the Michigan loss. And so so, you know,
in terms of of philosophy, get Jonah Comb in the
ball a little bit more, and get you know, get
some big plays. You know, they just you know, and
and and Demon. We didn't know how we've never seen
Demon of course, of course we haven't seen him for
a lot of football, but we haven't seen him have
to bounce back from a game like that, and I
think that he he gritted his teeth and showed his
(12:57):
metal no doubt.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Hey here before you go, we got to get one
Sea Hawk question. And this is the second time this
year the Hawks are gonna watch Monday Night football with
a chance to play that team on a short week
on Sunday. It was a Jaguars first, and now it's
the Commanders. And uh, I mean did the Jaguars play
Kansas City too on that Monday night? It's the second
time both this is now against the Chiefs as well.
So Robbie Hoots is eligible to come off the I
(13:19):
r uh. They announced that today they'd be huge to
get him back. And Huskies or the the Hawk excuse me,
first place technically in the West right now with the
Niners getting cream by the Texans, and I don't know
about you, Hugh Man, but this NFC is wide open.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Why the hell can't the Hawks be a part of
that thing?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Why can't they Well, the answer would be that they
can't run the football right now. That's the worst part
of their their team right now.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And so you really got to bring us down with
your with your with your reality, don't you come on?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I don't know, Dick. It seemed to me when when
Dave asked, why can't they?
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Yeah, whyt you to give me something positive to hang
on to?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Here, man, there sitting all World Series. I need some
positivity out of you.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
All right, let's ignore. Let's ignore the fact their thirtieth
in the NFL is We'll we'll just yeah, we'll.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Just that part doesn't count.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well, okay, but but again, they're getting Robbie Oots back. Yeah,
I think their running game looks a little better the
last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
You tell the numbers, I'm crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
The numbers do not support do you do you think do.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You think the running game is going to improve?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I'm skeptical because I've seen the offensive line and when
they've been in twenty one personnel with Robbie Eats. Trust me,
I've looked at the numbers. There's no there are no
numbers when Oots was healthy that support the argument they're
going to be better with him back. Maybe they will
be better than him back, but that would be bucking
what happened when he was healthy. So look, I think
(14:45):
I think the schedule lightens up a little bit. I'm
still shaking my head. Man the thirty third team, My
boy Mike Gettings, he was talking about all he had
all the strikes that all these teams had, and he
had the Packers that only Evan the fewest. He had
the Seahawks winning the NFC West because they were like
eighteen strikes. And and he said, he said, oh man,
(15:09):
the Broncos. He said, the Broncos are gonna win the
AFC West. They got the best. Like, I can't even
believe how prophetic this guy is. And uh and one
thing he had, he said, had the Washington Commanders with
forty four strikes. He goes, this is an aging injured team.
Like he had a major prediction the Commanders were going
to really fall off. And remember how excited everybody was
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about Jane Daniels and and you know, thinking, well, well
you got a young quarterback, you're on the incline, blah
blah blah. That's not what they were saying on the
thirty third team. And it's kind of playing out right now.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Hueye, you're the.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Man, great stuff, And we'll talk on Friday, right all right,
I enjoy guys.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You bet humelling.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Wait to say it a little bit from jeded Fish
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Speaker 3 (16:16):
Ay, a couple things we're keeping an eye on.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
We got football tonight, Commanders Kansas City, second time this
year that we can watch the opponent. Scout the opponent
for the Seahawks. We should write some notes down and
send them off to McDonald. You think he'd listen. Oh absolutely,
And here's my thoughts on what I saw Monday night.
So feel free to use or not use up to you.
So second straight, second time this year, excuse me. The
Seahawks will have a chance to watch their next opponent.
(16:41):
They got the Commanders on Sunday night playing the Chiefs tonight.
Jaydon Daniels though not gonna play. We'll see if he
plays this Sunday obviously against the Hawk, but he is
out for tonight. Brian Kelly fired with fifty four million bucks, Hey,
real quick, if we get the Jetfish, I'm curious, I
asked Hugh millin last segment. If Jetfish does leave, do
we have any interest in Brian Kelly or James Franklin
(17:02):
to replace him here in Seattle. Typically, I'm not a
fan of hiring guys that just got fired by somebody else.
I still have some scars over what we went through
with Tyrone. But I do think, though, isn't it fair
to say that James Franklin and Brian Kelly have accomplished
a lot more than Tyrone Willingham did before he came
to see.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Here's no question.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I just think there's a lot of personal things with
Brian Kelly that I have read about that it just
doesn't sound like.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
He like he's a grumpy bastard number one.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
The type of guy you want run into your college
football programs.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
About James Brow about James frank I have a little
bit more interest.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I mean, I'd have to dive in deeper to it,
but I would say a little bit more interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
First brush, first blush, I'm with you on the Franklin thing. Jackson,
how about you any interest at all?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Same way as Dick, I'm a little more interested in Franklin.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
I think I think just by the track record, I'd
be more No, absolutely not on Kelly.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Brian Kelly seems like the kind of guy that'd be
miserable to cover. Yeah, maybe I'm wrong on that, but
he just seems like the planet would not be fun
at all to be around, all right, Jed Fish. Today
with the media coming off to win over Illinois, Denzel
Boston Big Ten Player of the Week. That gives the
Huskies four of them on the offensive side demand twice?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
And Jonah Coleman at one time and now Denzel Boston
his first one hundred yard game in the Big Ten
since the Rutgers game last September, and Jed the Fish
started talking about Denzel before anything else.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Excited to hear that Denzel is the Big Ten Player
of the week, I think co Big Ten Player of
the week whatever might be so very excited for Denzel
there well deserved. Fantastic stat line for sure, and also
the way he played, the competitive edge he played with
really really impressed there. Other than that, watching the game,
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I thought we did good things, certainly things we want
to improve upon in terms of you know, technique in
terms of identification of certain coverages, identification of certain plays
on offense against our defense. Special teams had a couple
of penalties, had a couple put the ball on the
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ground too many times, put the ball on the ground
on a pump, put the ball on the ground on
a reverse, put the ball on the ground on a
snap at the end of the game. But for the
most part, we still finished plus two in the turnover battle.
We were very efficient on third down, we were very
efficient in the red zone on offense. We had a
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very good second half on defense. So all together, glad
that we were six and two. We have a bye week,
and now we have an opportunity for the final four
games to see what our postseason can look like.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
You became bull weltim over the weekend.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Do you still think I was shot to get into
the playoffs with a couple of losses if you could win.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Out, sure, there was a lot of I think the
national champion last year was ten and two, So sure,
if you can win out and you can play well, yeah,
of course you can. I think that it's all a
matter of how we play this week against Wisconsin to
give us the opportunity to go to the next level.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
What about Rashid, does he have a chance to come
back up this by week?
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, yeah, Rashid. I expect Rashida to be playing against Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
How do you approach that position?
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Obviously, Desmond Roebuck has been playing very well.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Rashid was starting there before you got hurt.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
How do you kind of handle that once he's healthy.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah, Well, Rashid and Desmond were rotating through early on
and that'll continue and we've got I think this past
week we rotated some. Chris Lawson was in there, Rayden
was in there, Kevin Green had some snaps. Des had
a bunch of snaps. So we'll just continue to look
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at different substitution patterns. Maybe there's a package or two
that somebody can be responsible for that potentially give them
some more reps if we call that personnel package. But
we'll always play the guys that we think will help
us the most every given play, and then it'll be
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it's a nice problem to have when you gain depth.
It's a nice problem to have when your starters come
back or when guys that were impacting game come back.
So we'll have to really look at it. And see
as we get Quintin more back, as we get Rashid back,
We're becoming pretty healthy here, so hopefully you know. The
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last thing we're really waiting on is to just hear
what goes on with Jacob.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
You last week, the ruling on the remaining eligibility had
just come out. He had a chance to talk to
Jacob since the ruling, since we talked to you last.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
No, because the ruling doesn't affect his court case. His
court case is going to be based upon what a
judge decides, and if a judge wants to have a
temporary injunction or not, you know, And so we're just
waiting here what the judge shows.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
You mentioned that you know it would be a problem
keeping him on the sidelines, and you didn't trust him
to go to sneak into a game.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, I didn't put him on your phone this.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Year, hide it.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
No, I just put him in a sweatsuit and then
I knew he couldn't go in the game.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
How about that he said that last week, by the way,
that he if he wasn't gonna played Manu, that he
wasn't gonna let him suit up because didn't trust him and.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Just not run out there and just enter the game.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
So I mean, at this point, you know you're probably
saving him for the Oregon game. I know Greg and
Mario both said in the pregame show that they would
have played him against Illinois because you never know it
guy sits out a month, who knows, right, I mean,
what kind of shape he'll be in. But it sounds
like they're saving him for the Organ game as well.
But the hope is that even before that, they'll get
a ruling from this guy from front of the couch
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and then he could play the entire thing.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
But tho are going to Desmond.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Roebucks numbers is on pace for six hundred yards and
six touchdowns, which is a true freshman. I'll take that
all day from an eighteen year old wide receiver man.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
And I mean, look, I think this.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
If they would have beaten Michigan, they'd be seven and one.
They'd probably be in the top fifteen right now in
college football, and we'd be talking about them. They didn't,
so they're not. And I get it, right, they probably
should be ranked.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I get it. They really haven't beaten anybody yet of significance.
But part of the reason why. This is why the
eight peop pole pisses me off. Part of the reason
why they haven't beaten anybody of significance is because the
eight people just took out the ranked team that Washington
beat because they beat him.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
And I'm looking at a team and I'll just give
you a team right now that has wins over Purdue, Arkansas,
Boise State, North Carolina State, and USC and they're ranked
twelfth in America.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
They're called Notre Dame. They have the same record as Washington.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
They lost to two good teams like Washington lost the
two good teams, but because Notre Dames started fifth in
the country, they have fallen to twelfth and they have
the same resume as Washington.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Welcome to my world, pal, bout time you jump on
the wagon.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
What are you talking about. I've been telling you for
a week, so I'm moving to your side.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Stupid, stupid, the dumbest thing ever. I hate it.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
It drives me nuts, and I think if you don't
agree with me, then you're a moron. Because I don't
know how much more evidence you need that the ap
pole is idiotic and this thing is ridiculous. The only
thing left to find out now is how much of
these clowns on the CFP committee.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I don't allow themselves to be influenced by I don't
think they will.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
I think they will much more at those computer rakings.
And like you said to Ian, and you're exactly right.
I mean, the Huskies are ranked like eighteenth to twenty twenty, first,
twenty second and almost all of those power rankings. So
if the CFP were released today, Washington would absolutely they'd
be easily, you.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Would think, you would think, who knows man.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
The difference is, by the time the CFP comes out,
the Huskies might be eight and two, probably will be
eight and two, so they better Dan will be in
the top twenty five. Get to nine and two, and
let's make that organ game meaningful. Right, let's make that
organ game mean something. And I agree with you. I
think Oregon's showing some cracks. So we'll see man. Football
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All right, let's get to it a little more for
or their friend Hugh Millan, who rejoins us now on
the radio show, Hueye. I heard you on the air
today with Ian Ferns and Greg Cosell, which a fact
you did a really good job with those guys. But
I felt myself kind of wanting more.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh okay, well here we are.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
That's why we brought you back for a little summer
at four.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Lots of stuff something, yes, yes, lots of stuff to
get you. Why don't we start off before we talk
hawks and dogs and and all that stuff?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Why are you just kind of weigh in on this?
All these firings in college football, James Franklin out, Billy
Napier out, obviously, Brian Kelly got let go over the weekend.
They owned fifty four million dollars, And you know, I'm
just I'm just, first of all, curious if if Jetfish
were to ever leave you, Dub, which you know one
day he will, right we can talk about when. But
(00:53):
if he were ever to leave you, Dub, would you
have any interest in Brian Kelly or James Franklin to
repla Despite the fact they were both fired from their
last stop.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
No, okay no, and particularly Brian Kelly. I'm not a
fan of his style whatsoever. He's sixty four years old.
I'd be a hard pass on him. James Franklin would
be a little more intriguing. I don't know. I just
I saw how Tyrone and Willingham viewed Washington. Kevin Sumlin
(01:26):
after you know, a Texas guy having the A and
M job, how he viewed Arizona. There's a lot many
more I can add to that list. I think that
when you when you get fired from the real elite
programs and then you step down a notch, I don't
know's it's hard how many guys have succeeded in that, right,
(01:47):
you know, how many guys have gone from a top
ten or twelve blue blood down to I'm gonna put
Washington in maybe a top fifteen, you know, not you know,
knocking on the door, want to be blue blood, like
almost a blue blood?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
That sounds like a pejorative. I didn't mean to say,
but you know, I think Washington isn't quite in the
in the ranks with the Ohio States, the Michigans. Well,
let's just talk about the teams that just washing it
may be commensurate with LSU, but I think history Penn State, Yeah, yeah,
I think they would view that as a little bit
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of a drop off, and I don't want that in
the mind of the Husky coach.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Here the talking point on the boat with the hundreds
of folks that I was leaving Husky Stadium with we're
twofold on Saturday. One was just the offense clicking like
unbelievably well. But number two was the officiating. And it's
I think it's a little easier to complain about officiating
when you win a football game than when you lose
a football game, because it doesn't sound like whining. But
(02:51):
I did not hear Husky Stadium louder all day than
on those two interceptions that were called back during penalties.
So can you talk about the Takario Davis pass interference
and whether you thought that was legit and also the
personal foul roughing the passer call that wiped out another interception.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, I'm not big on the roughing the quarterback. I
think that it's got to just jump out at you
like a thousand, right, like a thousand out of a thousand.
I've got a you know, guys, in a bar, in
a big bar. I guess it would be if there
was a thousand. But so I think that standard to
me in college football targeting, you know, roughing the passer,
(03:32):
I just I cringe when I see that too often.
The past interference I have I'm a little bit more
nebulous about in the following regard. I think that you know,
you just look and you say, there are times where
the play is materially affected by not a lot of contact.
(03:52):
And it's hard for us as football fans too, you know,
when we see guys smacking the hell out of each
other and literally driving them in the ground, that relatively
soft contact could materially affect the play. It's kind of
like in basketball, what is the what is the the
the the shot foul that most effects material effects a play.
(04:17):
It's that you know, you get the guy on the wrist,
you know, just below his hand, and you know, the
fact is the guy the rules say you're entitled to
fall through on your on your shot, and if you
get hit right there, it's gonna caut It doesn't seem
like much, but it's going that particular foul. Now, you know,
a big guy getting his hip, you know, uh hit,
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you know on a four foot skyhook or something. You
know you're gonna let that contact go. But but are
you following me? There's there's some contact that I think
is more material than others. And there's none more material
in my mind than an offensive receiver fighting. And that
could be a defender as well, if he goes for
a pick but at that last minute extending his arm
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and you saw in this case the Illinois defender his
path got reverted. The Illinois receiver rather, his path got
reverted towards the goal line. Davis kind of launched himself
backwards towards the back of the end zone. I think
that there was an effect. I would just turn it
around this way. If it was Danzel Boston running that
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post and somebody shoved him with a straight arm and
you could see Boston has veered off his course. At
the very least, Boston would have had a chance to,
you know, just get his hands up and deflect it.
Play defender in the last second, right, I think that
we'd be saying, yeah, that's material contact. So for me,
I kind of thought it barely crept over the threshold
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for pass interfairce.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, well, Hugh, you got people talking. CFP was written
about in the newspaper this morning. Dick and I brought
it up a couple of weeks ago before the Michigan game,
and then they lost to Michigan and the talk kind
of died down a little bit at least on this
radio show. And look, I'm just gonna tell you you
just a quick history lesson here and then you can
jump in, Hugh and take the floor. In twenty twenty two,
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three years ago under Kalin his first year, right, they
were six and two, just like they are now, and
they were unranked. They eventually climbed up to number eight
in the country. They beat number twenty five Oregon State
number six Oregon. They went from twenty five to seventeen
to thirteen to twelve, and then they beat Sark in
the bowl game end of the year at number eight.
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So the Husky team just three years ago was six
and two and made a run to the top twelve before.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
The season even got to the bowl. To the bowl game.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
The difference is that team had two games left against
ranked teams.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
This team's got one.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Honestly, Hugh, nine to two before the Oregon game has
to be guaranteed. You gotta beat Purdue, beat Ucla, beat
Wisconsin and then make the Organ game mean something. And
then for me, Huey, I think kind of keep rooting
for those second and third teams and the big conferences
to fall off. Virginia, Ole, Miss Texas Tech, Cincinnati. Get
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get rid of those teams, get rid of that nonsense,
and the Huskies keep winning and maybe they have an
outside shot.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
But there's a lot of work to be done.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Are you even allowing yourself, first of all, to think
that they could be nine and two before that game
with Oregon and maybe even win it and maybe be
in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, I think they can be nine and two. Yeah,
I think that there. They made a vault there offensively.
When they get the left side of their offensive line back,
maybe there's a renewed vigor. Now we're still only what
nine days removed from that kind of pratfall in ann Arbor.
So I think this team has yet to declare itself.
(07:49):
But I think that Wisconsin purduer Ucla, I think it's
more likely than not that you're gonna go three and
ohero right in those three games and then at home.
I don't know, man, I'll tell you More, the quarterback
for for Oregon. When I watched him in September, I thought, Okay,
this guy's gonna be a Heisman candidate. I thought him
(08:11):
against Indiana he was so non competitive. It wasn't just
he had a bad game. We've all seen hundreds of
bad games in the and the guy who's speaking right now,
you've seen him have, you know, scores of them. But
this was something more to me that I feel like
(08:31):
I'm speaking in puns, but but this was something more
for more, there was there was a complete lack of
answers against Indiana. Now is Washington's defense Indiana's defense far
from it right now? But on the road, who knows
how the weather go. I don't know. I think it's
possible that in a in a frenzied environment, I think
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you get that upset. And and you're right to look
back at the last numbers and you cite those. I
think those are apt. But I'm looking really keenly at
a year ago, because that's your your first playoff game, right, right,
playoff season right, And a couple of things strike me.
First of all, a lot of two loss teams. All
three of the SEC teams were two loss teams.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
The national champion lost team.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Then yeah, Penn State and Ohio State out of the
Big Ten. Now here's the thing about the they call
them the power for conferences. You know how many teams
went from the Big twelve one one one team and
two from the ACC. So this is a this is
a front loaded Big Ten and SEC. There were four
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teams from the Big Ten, three from the SEC again
all with two losses. You had Notre Dame at eleven
to one. They didn't have to play a conference championship game.
But I look, and I kind of really focus on
there were seven teams from the combined SEC in the
Big ten. Is that does that seem logical to you, guys?
And I'm not sure that maybe they're given a tie
(10:07):
that if there's seven again, it might go to the SEC,
who only had three a year ago, whereas and the
Big Ten had four. Obviously, you got to judge each
team by its merit, but if it comes down to
shaving those games, that could be a factor. But four
teams went from the Big Ten, you got to figure
(10:28):
that could happen. And I think at least three are
gonna go and and if you can, if you can
go four and over over these next four games, I
think you've got I think probably better than a fifty
chance of making the playoff. And I think the chance
of doing that, Dave I mentioned to you, you know,
(10:49):
I think somewhere between a third and forty percent, Dick,
I think about between thirty three and forty That's what
I think Washington's chance of going four and oh are
you know so? Probably probably a little a little less
probable than then, uh than not, but but I think
a real healthy chance that they could they could do
(11:10):
that and pull the upsets and and find themselves in
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Hugh, I got to fall up on what you said
about the left side the line there. Uh, offense totally
looked different with Mills and Willis back there. Do you
think that Michigan game goes differently with those two guys
and what was the effect that they had, especially on
the run game.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, I think when you talk about a three score loss,
I I it's hard for me to say their presence
could have been the factor. Now they were they were
close in the third court, you know it was was
uh that the reason for Demand's you know, near pick
six in the third quarter. Uh, No, that was a
quick you know, that was just slant flat that balls
just coming out all right. But you could say with
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the left side of the line, you know, maybe you
run better, and maybe the control of the game, it
could be a little bit of wasted energy. I would
just say, moving forward, I think Washington responded to the
loss the right way. They they played a good but
not great I think Illinois was the perfect sweet spot
where they were good enough to get Washington's real bona
(12:13):
fide attention, but not so formidable that that that that
they'd have a tough time beating them. So I think
Illinois presented exactly the right team. You know, bad weather
they're there, the strength of their offenses, their their passing game.
You know, I think a lot of things fell in
Washington's favor, but I think credit Washington for having the
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right response to the Michigan loss. And so so, you know,
in terms of of philosophy, get Jonah Comb in the
ball a little bit more, and get you know, get
some big plays. You know, they just you know, and
and and Demon. We didn't know how we've never seen
Demon of course, of course we haven't seen him for
a lot of football, but we haven't seen him have
to bounce back from a game like that, and I
think that he he gritted his teeth and showed his
(12:57):
metal no doubt.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Hey here before you go, we got to get one
Sea Hawk question. And this is the second time this
year the Hawks are gonna watch Monday Night football with
a chance to play that team on a short week
on Sunday. It was a Jaguars first, and now it's
the Commanders. And uh, I mean did the Jaguars play
Kansas City too on that Monday night? It's the second
time both this is now against the Chiefs as well.
So Robbie Hoots is eligible to come off the I
(13:19):
r uh. They announced that today they'd be huge to
get him back. And Huskies or the the Hawk excuse me,
first place technically in the West right now with the
Niners getting cream by the Texans, and I don't know
about you, Hugh Man, but this NFC is wide open.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Why the hell can't the Hawks be a part of
that thing?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Why can't they Well, the answer would be that they
can't run the football right now. That's the worst part
of their their team right now.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And so you really got to bring us down with
your with your with your reality, don't you come on?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I don't know, Dick. It seemed to me when when
Dave asked, why can't they?
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Yeah, whyt you to give me something positive to hang
on to?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Here, man, there sitting all World Series. I need some
positivity out of you.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
All right, let's ignore. Let's ignore the fact their thirtieth
in the NFL is We'll we'll just yeah, we'll.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Just that part doesn't count.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well, okay, but but again, they're getting Robbie Oots back. Yeah,
I think their running game looks a little better the
last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
You tell the numbers, I'm crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
The numbers do not support do you do you think do.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You think the running game is going to improve?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I'm skeptical because I've seen the offensive line and when
they've been in twenty one personnel with Robbie Eats. Trust me,
I've looked at the numbers. There's no there are no
numbers when Oots was healthy that support the argument they're
going to be better with him back. Maybe they will
be better than him back, but that would be bucking
what happened when he was healthy. So look, I think
(14:45):
I think the schedule lightens up a little bit. I'm
still shaking my head. Man the thirty third team, My
boy Mike Gettings, he was talking about all he had
all the strikes that all these teams had, and he
had the Packers that only Evan the fewest. He had
the Seahawks winning the NFC West because they were like
eighteen strikes. And and he said, he said, oh man,
(15:09):
the Broncos. He said, the Broncos are gonna win the
AFC West. They got the best. Like, I can't even
believe how prophetic this guy is. And uh and one
thing he had, he said, had the Washington Commanders with
forty four strikes. He goes, this is an aging injured team.
Like he had a major prediction the Commanders were going
to really fall off. And remember how excited everybody was
(15:33):
about Jane Daniels and and you know, thinking, well, well
you got a young quarterback, you're on the incline, blah
blah blah. That's not what they were saying on the
thirty third team. And it's kind of playing out right now.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Hueye, you're the.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Man, great stuff, And we'll talk on Friday, right all right,
I enjoy guys.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You bet humelling.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Wait to say it a little bit from jeded Fish
just press conference study coming off the win over Illinois,
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Speaker 3 (16:16):
Ay, a couple things we're keeping an eye on.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
We got football tonight, Commanders Kansas City, second time this
year that we can watch the opponent. Scout the opponent
for the Seahawks. We should write some notes down and
send them off to McDonald. You think he'd listen. Oh absolutely,
And here's my thoughts on what I saw Monday night.
So feel free to use or not use up to you.
So second straight, second time this year, excuse me. The
Seahawks will have a chance to watch their next opponent.
(16:41):
They got the Commanders on Sunday night playing the Chiefs tonight.
Jaydon Daniels though not gonna play. We'll see if he
plays this Sunday obviously against the Hawk, but he is
out for tonight. Brian Kelly fired with fifty four million bucks, Hey,
real quick, if we get the Jetfish, I'm curious, I
asked Hugh millin last segment. If Jetfish does leave, do
we have any interest in Brian Kelly or James Franklin
(17:02):
to replace him here in Seattle. Typically, I'm not a
fan of hiring guys that just got fired by somebody else.
I still have some scars over what we went through
with Tyrone. But I do think, though, isn't it fair
to say that James Franklin and Brian Kelly have accomplished
a lot more than Tyrone Willingham did before he came
to see.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Here's no question.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I just think there's a lot of personal things with
Brian Kelly that I have read about that it just
doesn't sound like.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
He like he's a grumpy bastard number one.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
The type of guy you want run into your college
football programs.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
About James Brow about James frank I have a little
bit more interest.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I mean, I'd have to dive in deeper to it,
but I would say a little bit more interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
First brush, first blush, I'm with you on the Franklin thing. Jackson,
how about you any interest at all?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Same way as Dick, I'm a little more interested in Franklin.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
I think I think just by the track record, I'd
be more No, absolutely not on Kelly.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Brian Kelly seems like the kind of guy that'd be
miserable to cover. Yeah, maybe I'm wrong on that, but
he just seems like the planet would not be fun
at all to be around, all right, Jed Fish. Today
with the media coming off to win over Illinois, Denzel
Boston Big Ten Player of the Week. That gives the
Huskies four of them on the offensive side demand twice?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
And Jonah Coleman at one time and now Denzel Boston
his first one hundred yard game in the Big Ten
since the Rutgers game last September, and Jed the Fish
started talking about Denzel before anything else.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Excited to hear that Denzel is the Big Ten Player
of the week, I think co Big Ten Player of
the week whatever might be so very excited for Denzel
there well deserved. Fantastic stat line for sure, and also
the way he played, the competitive edge he played with
really really impressed there. Other than that, watching the game,
(18:48):
I thought we did good things, certainly things we want
to improve upon in terms of you know, technique in
terms of identification of certain coverages, identification of certain plays
on offense against our defense. Special teams had a couple
of penalties, had a couple put the ball on the
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ground too many times, put the ball on the ground
on a pump, put the ball on the ground on
a reverse, put the ball on the ground on a
snap at the end of the game. But for the
most part, we still finished plus two in the turnover battle.
We were very efficient on third down, we were very
efficient in the red zone on offense. We had a
(19:30):
very good second half on defense. So all together, glad
that we were six and two. We have a bye week,
and now we have an opportunity for the final four
games to see what our postseason can look like.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
You became bull weltim over the weekend.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Do you still think I was shot to get into
the playoffs with a couple of losses if you could win.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Out, sure, there was a lot of I think the
national champion last year was ten and two, So sure,
if you can win out and you can play well, yeah,
of course you can. I think that it's all a
matter of how we play this week against Wisconsin to
give us the opportunity to go to the next level.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
What about Rashid, does he have a chance to come
back up this by week?
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, yeah, Rashid. I expect Rashida to be playing against Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
How do you approach that position?
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Obviously, Desmond Roebuck has been playing very well.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Rashid was starting there before you got hurt.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
How do you kind of handle that once he's healthy.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah, Well, Rashid and Desmond were rotating through early on
and that'll continue and we've got I think this past
week we rotated some. Chris Lawson was in there, Rayden
was in there, Kevin Green had some snaps. Des had
a bunch of snaps. So we'll just continue to look
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at different substitution patterns. Maybe there's a package or two
that somebody can be responsible for that potentially give them
some more reps if we call that personnel package. But
we'll always play the guys that we think will help
us the most every given play, and then it'll be
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it's a nice problem to have when you gain depth.
It's a nice problem to have when your starters come
back or when guys that were impacting game come back.
So we'll have to really look at it. And see
as we get Quintin more back, as we get Rashid back,
We're becoming pretty healthy here, so hopefully you know. The
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last thing we're really waiting on is to just hear
what goes on with Jacob.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
You last week, the ruling on the remaining eligibility had
just come out. He had a chance to talk to
Jacob since the ruling, since we talked to you last.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
No, because the ruling doesn't affect his court case. His
court case is going to be based upon what a
judge decides, and if a judge wants to have a
temporary injunction or not, you know, And so we're just
waiting here what the judge shows.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
You mentioned that you know it would be a problem
keeping him on the sidelines, and you didn't trust him
to go to sneak into a game.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, I didn't put him on your phone this.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Year, hide it.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
No, I just put him in a sweatsuit and then
I knew he couldn't go in the game.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
How about that he said that last week, by the way,
that he if he wasn't gonna played Manu, that he
wasn't gonna let him suit up because didn't trust him and.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Just not run out there and just enter the game.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
So I mean, at this point, you know you're probably
saving him for the Oregon game. I know Greg and
Mario both said in the pregame show that they would
have played him against Illinois because you never know it
guy sits out a month, who knows, right, I mean,
what kind of shape he'll be in. But it sounds
like they're saving him for the Organ game as well.
But the hope is that even before that, they'll get
a ruling from this guy from front of the couch
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and then he could play the entire thing.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
But tho are going to Desmond.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Roebucks numbers is on pace for six hundred yards and
six touchdowns, which is a true freshman. I'll take that
all day from an eighteen year old wide receiver man.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
And I mean, look, I think this.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
If they would have beaten Michigan, they'd be seven and one.
They'd probably be in the top fifteen right now in
college football, and we'd be talking about them. They didn't,
so they're not. And I get it, right, they probably
should be ranked.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I get it. They really haven't beaten anybody yet of significance.
But part of the reason why. This is why the
eight peop pole pisses me off. Part of the reason
why they haven't beaten anybody of significance is because the
eight people just took out the ranked team that Washington
beat because they beat him.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
And I'm looking at a team and I'll just give
you a team right now that has wins over Purdue, Arkansas,
Boise State, North Carolina State, and USC and they're ranked
twelfth in America.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
They're called Notre Dame. They have the same record as Washington.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
They lost to two good teams like Washington lost the
two good teams, but because Notre Dames started fifth in
the country, they have fallen to twelfth and they have
the same resume as Washington.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Welcome to my world, pal, bout time you jump on
the wagon.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
What are you talking about. I've been telling you for
a week, so I'm moving to your side.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Stupid, stupid, the dumbest thing ever. I hate it.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
It drives me nuts, and I think if you don't
agree with me, then you're a moron. Because I don't
know how much more evidence you need that the ap
pole is idiotic and this thing is ridiculous. The only
thing left to find out now is how much of
these clowns on the CFP committee.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I don't allow themselves to be influenced by I don't
think they will.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
I think they will much more at those computer rakings.
And like you said to Ian, and you're exactly right.
I mean, the Huskies are ranked like eighteenth to twenty twenty, first,
twenty second and almost all of those power rankings. So
if the CFP were released today, Washington would absolutely they'd
be easily, you.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Would think, you would think, who knows man.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
The difference is, by the time the CFP comes out,
the Huskies might be eight and two, probably will be
eight and two, so they better Dan will be in
the top twenty five. Get to nine and two, and
let's make that organ game meaningful. Right, let's make that
organ game mean something. And I agree with you. I
think Oregon's showing some cracks. So we'll see man. Football
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