October 28, 2025 • 33 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler is joined by Greg Lewis and Mario Bailey for the Husky Honks as the guys react to Washington’s win over Illinois last weekend, Demond Williams’ tough play and big game plus Jedd Fisch’s status with other college openings.
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Speaker 1 (01:35):
Now it is my pleasure to.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Welcome in one of the greatest running backs in Husky
football history, my friend Greg Lewis and a former Husky
legend eight or nine times.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Now you've done that.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Saturday, Mario Bailey out there with his mom, great family
photo in the end zone, being honored again for the
fifteenth time as the Husky football legend Saturday versus Illinois.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
How are you? I was the backup.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
And that's only my second time in the last twenty
five years.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Mario, don't let him give you a hard time. If
we recognized you every week between now the the time wait,
well deserved time out.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
You're telling me to not give him a hard time
when you were the one who spent eighty of the
three game.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Show pitching your money. How come I can't get a
second time? Did anyone on the air hear me say that, Yes,
they didn't. I didn't say that out there, deaf to
you guys off here. I think some people brought it
up to it hasn't done it well. Look maybe down
the road you'll deserve it well and we'll get you.
(02:41):
Me and Mario will do it together. There you go
absolutely out ride receiver running back combo at one time.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
But this, uh, this was a pretty complete uh performance
by you, dub. I mean, they kind of do what
they always do a little bit and kind of fall behind.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
There early on.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
They need a little razzle dazzle to take the lead.
At halftime, we're up twenty one to seventeen after the
Denzel Boston to Joanah Coleman touchdown throw back from Devon Williams.
But then they also do what they've been doing a lot,
and you mentioned this Greg on the postgame show. Defense
steps up and they kind of run away in the
second half, twenty one to eight in the second half,
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by you dub seventy three to twenty one. Is what
this team has done in the second half of these games. Now,
a lot of that was Rutgers, a lot of that
was Illinois, and a lot of that was Maryland, no doubt.
But there's no question this team is starting slow. There's
also no question they're turning into a second half football team,
which is great.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, I would think. I would argue though that this
game in particular, that the offense really didn't start slow.
They scored twenty one points in the first half, and
outside of a drop pass by deck Or de Dgraf
on a third and four where he clearly had the
first down, they were scoring on every possession in the
first half, so three out of four. So I would
argue that offensively, they started fast. One drop kept him
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from being what could have been perfect. So I think offensively,
when we're at home, we've played extremely well. You know,
I know it took us a little while to get
going against Rutgers, but we played a great first half
on both sides of the ball to a degree, outside
of some mistakes. The second half, though, the defense certainly
picked it up and again Ryan Walters in his fashion,
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kind of pokes and prods and tests what's gonna work
against you in the first half, why keeping you from
scoring and getting out too far ahead? And then the
second half he brings the house. He brings exotic blitzes
and pressures and twists, he disguises coverages, he brings different coverages,
and he just puts the offense in a guessing game
sort of situation. And you know, unfortunately for them, they
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weren't guessing right most of the time. Ryan Walter seemed
to step ahead, and we were able to really run
away from Illinois because I think before the game we
all said Illinois's best attribute is their ability to score
the football, throw the ball deep. So let's give some
credit our corners because those guys are playing out standing football,
because hardly anybody all year has gotten behind them. They're
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playing great football. The defense as a whole is really
playing well.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I thought the offense was tremendous in the first half,
and they really made that last drive to score with
two minutes left on the clock. I think me and
Greg were having a conversation and I think that score
was really what triggered the victory. Our defense struggled a
little bit in the first half, but like Greg said,
in the second half, it just seems like he makes
great halftime adjustments and we always seem to come with
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more pressure. Before a second it looked like it was
gonna be a race to see who could score last,
but our defense stepped it up in the second half.
I really love seeing Jonah. I lovedidding the second half.
We went away from Roerbaki made it where we could
actually go to Denzel, and Denzel played a phenomenal game,
got the Big Ten Player of the Week and he
definitely deserved it. And I think if we could see
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that from him every week, and we could see our
offense play like that every week from the beginning, would
be a different type of team.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Two hundred and forty yards of offense in the first
half for you, Dub and then you guys you mentioned Denzel.
Boston obviously had a huge day ten for one hundred
and fifty three through the touchdown pass to Jonah Coleman,
firste hundred yard day against a Big Ten team for
him since the Rutgers game a week ago. So let's
get the wide receiver over here to weigh in on
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this guy, right, Is it all about Roebucks stepping up
and complimenting him?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Is it all about getting the offensive line back?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I mean, you kind of, you know, maybe find it
slightly coincidental that you get John Mills and Carver Willis
back and the freshman Roebuck is stepping up and Denzel
Boston has his best game of the year.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Well, it's a little bit of both.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
If you look at the first half, Warbuck had those
two touchdowns and that will make the defense look at
somebody else. And you look at the second half, we
went to Boston a lot, and I think you know,
of course that goes with the offensive line, but also
we had some time to throw him the ball, some
deep routes. He actually did some deep routes, but we
made a concerted effort to go at him. We were
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having a conversation pre game about him. If he's a
first rounder now, if he played like that every week, yeah,
there's no question he's a first rounder now.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
First, I want to know why Softie always gave me
such a hard time about calling Roma Donza Roma duns,
but he lets you get away with calling Roebuck He's
not Mike.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Three times here's a reason why, because you called Roma
Dunes for three years.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I'll have a conversation.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
He'll he'll clean it up and he'll address.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
You know what I'm I'm I think the Huskies played
a great football game, and I think that offensively, they
came in from the outset knowing what they wanted to do.
I want to give jet Fish some credit for being
in his bag, because he talked the week before about,
you know, we're down all these tight ends and we
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may have to play some freshmen and stuff like that.
But what he actually did, and I don't know if
a lot of people notice this, he made some strategic
moves with the tight end position during the game. He
actually had an offensive line that hitting switched to number
eighty whenever they wanted to run with the double tight
end set. But what he also did in plays where
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the tight ends where both of them get out in routes,
he went to what's called twenty personnel, right, and what
that means is you got two backs and a zero
tight ends. And what he did was is he had
Jonah Coleman and Adam muhammad In and Adam Muhammet was
running the routes that the tight end would normally run
from the running back position, so instead of bringing the
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younger guys along, which he probably felt like, aren't ready
or we don't want to burn their redshirt, we're going
to change our formation in our positions. And I thought
the play calling was better than it has been all year.
I think he made some adjustments again with his personnel groupings,
going to a lot of twenty person nil instead of
what you would call twelve personnel or eleven where you
got one back, one tight end, and that allowed them
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to do some of the same things they would do
if they had the extra tight end in without it
by doing that with the running back. So I thought
coach Fish to me had his best game as a
Husky play calling a Husky coach against you know, I'm
not saying they were the world beaters of defense, but
they're a good right but they're a good football team
and they've won. I think he had a great football game.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, Zach Hanning from Colorado, you're right, because I mean
they're just not you know, guys like Baron Naomi, the
freshman you know Austin, they're just not ready yet to
come in and be extra offensive lineman. Person great call
by you to see number eighty, you know, Zach Henning,
who I think we'res fifty six technically, but they had
him in there with number eighty's fifty eight. Sorry, so
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you'll see him at some point play offensive line. But
then on top of that, man, you know, Jacob Moner
doesn't play the game. And we were talking earlier excuse me,
on Saturday morning, would you have played him? And both
of you, I think all of us said yes, we
play him today, just play him, see what happens. Hopefully
they'll get a ruling. Blah blah blah. They did not
play him, and now we got three games against Wisconsin, Purdue,
and UCLA. I wonder if they're now of a frame
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of mind, Mario where they're gonna set him until the
Organ game unless they get some news between now and then.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, you have to those games that you just mentioned.
Those aren't the games.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
We're gonna be favored in all those games, So you're
trying to save him to Oregon. That's gonna be the
biggest game of the season. It's against our rivals and
we're at home. But we talked about a pregame last weekend.
Is like, will he be in shape, will be in
game shape? Will he be ready for that? So I'm
concerned with that. But if the coaches made that decision
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and hopefully he got to weigh in and that decision
as well, yeah I would hope.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
So yeah, I think Jedfish just knew we're better than Illinois,
We're better than them, and we don't need him. And
you know, that might sound, you know, a bit far
fetched for some people who you know, say, well, you
just lost the previous week. But I think the Huskies
are a really good football team, especially at home, and
when all things are considered, you can see a pathway
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for them to get to nine wins pretty easily or ten.
What I'm concerned with is we have an identity crisis
for our football team. Our football team is six and
two and won some good games. We are not ranked.
We are one a percent ranked, and that's a problem
for me and I think because if you're a football team,
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part of what you want to do is one appeal
to recruits, and recruits like stuff like being ranked, being
a high profile program. Rankings also get you better TV
slots and better game slots and all of that. So
all those things enhance your program. And raise the profile
of your team. Brings more fans to the games, right,
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It brings more people around, It creates more buzz. And
when your football program doesn't have that buzz and you're
six and two, you're not getting that respect. That's an issue.
And I don't know who needs to fix that, but
somebody needs to fix the perception of our football program
because you can't win six seven eight games not be
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ranked and expect there to be excitement around, expect to
keep coaches who are hearing from top twenty programs. Well,
if I go nine to two at the University of Washington,
I can't be ranked. But if I go over here.
So those are all things that I think we got
to start talking about discussing. Somebody needs to up the
level of the marketing and the reputation of our football
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program because we're trying to peel to kids who watch
those things.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, well, you appreciate the choir. I mean, I've been
talking about this all year long. I think the AP
poll is a dinosaur. I think it needs to go.
It drives me bananas. You know that we're sitting here
talking about putting teams in a certain spot over the
offseason that have proven nothing and where they start greatly
influences in a lot of ways where they're ranked now.
I mean Notre Dame for example, Right, look at Notre Dame.
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Notre Dame is five and two with a win over
USC They're number twelve in the country. You know why
because they started number six. Texas is six and two
and Texas does have a winnver Oklahoma, which is a
nice win for them. But they began the year number one,
and that's why they're where they are now. So if
Washington was ranked twentieth, fifteenth, whatever when the year started,
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maybe they'd be a top fifteen team right now. So
this is about where you are in July when you
get ranked based on perceptions of you.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, but we as a program got to do up
our profile there. We can't just sit back and say,
well the AP didn't What do we need to do?
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
So you're a former Athletic Department employee, right if you're
telling me that you don't think the university is doing enough.
What I'm hearing you say and if I'm wrong then
you correct me, is that you don't think the university
is doing enough to market This thing is that what
you're saying.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
What I'm seeing is is somebody needs to figure out
what we're not doing, someone who's a part of the staff,
a part of the department. Where can we pull more levers,
what can we do more of it? And I say
that because we have a two team and we have
one of the most exciting players in the country. Yeah,
starting at quarterback, right, and nobody knows about it. Here's
the thing.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
So we come off that sumble, right Mario against Louisville
and Demon Williams goes bananas and we're all excited about
Demon Williams. That did nothing for the national media in
the AP because the Huskies did not get one vote
in the Preseason Bowl. They weren't even appearing in the
others receiving votes category and there was like twenty teams.
They were like fiftieth in the country as voted on
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by the Associated Press, and they had a lot of
new guys, obviously a lot of new faces. I happen
to think that this is all just still coming out
of the Kalin de Boor thing, turning over the roster,
blowing it all up. John Wilder is going to join
us at five and we'll dive into this more. But
do you think there's a problem over there that they
got to figure out why they're not getting more.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Love or is this just the way of the world now.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I don't understand how the landscape goes, so I don't
know if it's marketing, but it's definitely a problem. And
what Greg said is definitely true about like the recruits,
Like we have to be in the top twenty five,
we have to be ranked. We're a six and two
team with maybe three dynamic players, so it's a wonder
that we're not. But we have to do something. We
have to fix this problem because recruits, incoming recruits and
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the guys we have now. Greg is right when he says,
like we're six and two, we're not ranked, not nationally known.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
We have to figure it out. I don't know who's
responsible for that.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
And the ap pole has been garbage ever since I
played thirty five years ago.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Star Badge.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Yeah, you can't go with that, but there has to
be something that changes this landscape around.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
For the University of Washington.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Well, Houston is seven and two and they got to
win over Arizona State, who is now out of the
top twenty five because Houston beat them. When I look
at the Washington beat ch ILLINOI and they're out of
the top twenty five because they beat them.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
I see Michigan at twenty one, and that's where I say, Okay,
if Michigan's at twenty one and they beat us, then
I can understand it that way. But we still should
be sniffing or sneaking.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
It out there. There are two teams who are at
six and two are better in the top twenty five
US in Iowa. That's it in the Big Ten. So
is the Big Ten to me is the best conference.
We won the last two national championships. We have the
top ranked team, probably the two best teams in the
country right now. So by to some degree, being in
this conference should get you, you know, some weight. I
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just think I'm not saying whose problem it is. I'm
just saying we need to be as a school willing
to figure out how to fix it.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I don't think we're respected in the Big Ten yet.
I think we're on the outside looking in. And it
didn't do us any favors that against Michigan and Ohio
State we scored seven and six points, and I think
they're always going to put us on the back end
of the Big ten, right.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Now, right, Well, I mean, look, guys, here's the deal.
We had the same problem on a little bit of
a smaller in some ways bigger, some way smaller. When
we went through this crap of Florida State two years
ago for the national championship run, that Florida State's resume
clearly was nowhere near.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Ye what Washington's was. Yeah, this isn't a new problem.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
And they were ranked ahead of us the entire year
until the quarterback and they had done nothing, and Washington's
resume was way more impressive than Florida State. Yet the voters,
the CFP people kept putting Florida State above Washington. And
Mario you talk about, you know, not being respected in
the Big Ten. I mean there's a part of me
that would ask, you know, what have they done to
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be respected? I mean, they're a seven and seven team
in the Big Ten, and they played fourteen Big Ten
games and they're seven and seven. I think you're exactly right.
They play Ohio State, they play Michigan, they played Penn State,
they play Oregon. They need to start winning those games.
And they got one more left in a month against
the Ducks. They got three big ones between now and then.
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We'll talk about that next on ninety three three KJRFM
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Speaker 1 (18:00):
Damon looking left, looks over the middle, staying cool at
the w dow was gonna go Pengling left forty five
forty thirty five to thirty. Damon has a first down
pussy puss off. A tackler spends inside the twenty DuMond
Williams says, get off me and rolls into the red
zone as the Huskies have first and ten.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
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Mario Bailey for the eighteenth time as a Husky football
legend at the game, so that that highlight. We I
guarantee you, Greg, that will not be the last time
he does that.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
It will be the last next time. I dude, I'm
gonna be seventy some years old.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
How about and you'll still look like you're fifteen too.
How about Demon william Is blowing up Miles Scott there,
defensive back for Illinois senior. He's probably given twenty five
pounds or so because Miles Scott's listed at two ten
and Demon's what a buck ninety buck eighty five around
there whatever, and just blew him up, which to us
was like, Hey, that's great.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
But did Jetfish think the same thing. I don't know.
Let's do J Fish. I'm asking you, well, I think
Demond Williams is a lot tougher than we gave him
credit for it. Not that we've never said he wasn't tough,
but I think, you know, we've been concerned with him
running all the time and taking hits because his diminutive size.
I'm no longer with that. I mean, yet, a guy
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can get hurt on any play and we don't want
him running the ball thirty times a game. But what
I saw on that play is Demon William is one
tough SOB. This kid can not only take hits, he
can give him out. And the defensive player on that yeah,
he should be ashamed of himself. I mean he literally should.
If you get run over by a quarterback that's like
one hundred and eighty five pounds, you should take off
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your helmet and your shoulder pats. I mean literally, you
should be ashamed of yourself because that's a little guy
when you over. But we've talked about this before.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
No, this isn't about toughness, because even tough guys get hurt, right, Yeah,
I mean nobody is.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I'm talking about his mentality.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Nobody's debating his correct mentality, nobody's debating his desire, nobody's
debating his willingness to take on defenders.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Nobody would do that. But even those guys get hurt.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
You guys have all played with tough guys before, the
toughest guys you know, and they eventually get banged up,
and it's even worse when they're playing quarterbacks. So all
it takes is one hit like that and you blow
a shoulder out.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Mario.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yep, it's one of those plays where coaches. I came
over to the sideline.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Great play.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Never do that again, that's right, Never ever do that again.
Do not over your shoulder, get out of bound, slide,
figure something out. But he should never do that again.
We're never questioning that young man's toughness. Coach knows that,
we know that he can play, he can play forever,
but we we don't want him to do that.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I loved it. I loved it. I loved it over
and then he did the double spin move. Yeah, I
would never do it again. I think all of us
love it, but I was him man. It was great
in the moment, but my god, did we survive him
him on? Yes, we survived that.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Okay, So when he does that again and he gets
banged up, and you got to see, what's the guy's name,
ky Horton, we'll then we'll ask.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
You what's the guys? Are you kidding me? Ky Horton?
You asked you came on this show too much. Anybody
knows this guy. I knew the guy's name before the show.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
What about what about some of these calls, man, the quarterback,
the late hit on ty Tie that was called uh,
the defensive pass interference on Takario that wiped out, and
a picked by him. I don't know, man, I'm starting
to wonder if Pac twelve refs are better than Big
ten refs seeing a lot of the same stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I think some Pack ten refs did sneak into the
game because the Pack ten officials were awful. But had
guy was a PAC twelve guy brother, so for his
influence infected everybody. But I will say this, the team
is good enough to overcome those bad calls. When your
team is good enough to overcome mistakes, because they made
some of those and some bad calls, that means they're
playing at a higher level. Now when we play against
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the toughest teams in the country and we see the
Oregon Ducks, we can't do those kinds of things and
we don't need those bad calls. So I think this
team is just that level. You know what. You know
we talked about the big Mario said, getting respect in
the Big ten, and what does that mean? Ohio State's
the best team in the Big Ten right now, Indiana's
probably playing the second best, and we know Organ's a
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good football team. After that, maybe Michigan and.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Us there a third tier, third tier.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I think the third tier doing this second tier are compressed,
So maybe we're not the second tier. Maybe that is
Michigan right now. But I would argue that if we
played Michigan different time, different plays and all that, we
can beat Michigan. So I think we're in that, you know,
second thirdest tier in the Big Ten. So this year,
if we went nine and three and lost the Oregon
you know, guys know, I hate that, but I'm just saying,
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if we did, does that mean we should deserve respect?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Now, if we went nine and three and lost Oregon, Nope,
it's going to be the same thing as it was
this year. They're gonna worry. We're gonna have to make
sure that we recruit and we get some guys in
the portal and we're gonna come back twenty five or
twenty four. We're not gonna get respect if we lose
to the top three teams in the league.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Son, one of those three got it, got to get three.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
We're happy with Illinois because they were ranked twenty five,
but not even Moore high.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I think the top six or sevent teams in the
Big Ten should have respect because.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Not only are we not playing well, we're scoring seven
to six points and we're talking about we have this
dynamic offense.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Right.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
It's like the when we kept going on the road
last year to Penn State, and I would like, welcome
to the Big Ten, welcome to the Big Ten's.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
But I will would say that this year.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I just, guys, I just think I just think Mario
hit the nail on the head last segment that when
when you have a marquee game, and a marquee game
doesn't always mean the higher ranked team, right, because you
know Michigan wasn't.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I mean, come on, they're not a great marquee Michigan.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
You play, you play Michigan, you play Ohio State, you
play Oregon. As much as that makes you want to vomit.
You play Penn State and you don't show up and
you get drilled and you don't score. That's what people remember.
And this is why this is why you're on the
Big Ten network. It's why you're playing games you know
at times that people don't bind to be appealing.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
So look, you're seven and seven.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I mean we're literally saying here that the Illinois game
Saturday was maybe Jedfish's biggest win his Husky career.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Well, they're no longer a ranked team. They were twenty third. Okay,
let me ask you this then, right now, the most
important thing I think for our program is consistency. Consistency
and the coaching staff and all of that in order
to get to that next level. Right you just said
he's seven and seven to big ten. He's six and
two this year. If he ends up winning nine or
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ten games, maybe other people start coming after. Do you
sect in him right now to keep that from happening
when he's only six and two and only seven and seven,
do you need to extend Jetfish right now? Take the chance?
And God forbid? He goes, yeah, yeah, only wins one
more game this year, but if he wins three or four,
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now you have a chance to lose him because you
do extend him right now. What do you do if
you're the you have athletic department with Jetfish right now?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
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Speaker 1 (26:40):
The local kid Rayshaun clark Y big interception first of
his career and played a really solid game. All right, Mario?
How about you?
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Well when ex Alexander thought he flew around the entire game, I.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Love it all right.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
We talked about this last segment, so a lot of
job openings in college football. Florida's open, Penn State's open,
LSU is open, UCLA is open. To name a few,
Jedfish has been around. He likes to move around a lot.
This is an era in college football where coaches leaving
they take players with him. You asked on the air
last segment if the Huskies should beat Jedfish and the
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rest of college football of the punch and sign him
to a new extension right now. They did not do
that with Caitlyn Deborn time, obviously, and he took off
and went to Alabama. So what do we think, Mario?
Is it time to extend Jedfish? Have you seen enough
after a year and a half to give the guy
brand new contract.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
No, I'm not extending anybody after two years. I might
think about it if we were to go ten to
two and we beat Oregon, then I might have the conversation.
I understand the dynamics of it, and I see all
these jobs opening, and I know coach Fish has a
history of leaving, and I see how he came here
and he brought them on here, So I understand.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
But a year and a half in, I would not
extend it. If he goes ten and two. And you
wait until then, you're not even going to be in
the conversation because there will be big time programs that
will already have offers that you can't match in front
of him. I guarantee you that. So by waiting that long,
you're saying he's gone. And you know there are certain
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number of jobs Softy just mentioned right now that are open.
They're going to be more open between that. We've seen
that people are willing to pay seventy six million dollar
buyouts like they did with Jimbo Fisher at Texas A
and M to get rid of coaches. So they're going
to be more jobs open because people want to win.
Right now, if you let your coach leave after he
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and I would pick the over under at eight. If
he wins more than eight games, which nine or more
is a very distinct possibility, he'll be an attractive candidate.
And are you willing to roll the dice to lose him?
And Desmond? I'm sorry, Demon and some of your other
top players. Is not just Demond. There's guys like Roebuck
and people like that that you may also lose, whether
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they go with him or they go somewhere else. And
then start all the way over again. Sure, I think
you have to old dice and maybe make the extention. Well,
there's precedent for this.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I mean they Jen did it with Debor after the
first eleven games before the Apple Cup, they gave him
a new deal. They didn't get to the second deal
obviously because he waited on that and took off to
go to Alabama. But they were nine to two in
November of twenty twenty two heading into the Apple Cup,
and you dub announced an extension for Kaitlin de Bor.
So when you think you got something, you might want
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to jump on it and keep the guy. I mean,
here's the deal though, with Jedfish. His buy out for
him to get out of this contract is only ten million.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
That's low.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Now Dan Lannings is twenty million at Oregon, So this
is another Troy dan and special. When he signed Jedfish
to this contract, he made it pretty damn easy for
Jedfish to walk away. And Jed can wait all the
way until the middle of January to take another job
because of where the calendar is on the buyout. So
it's very heavily favored towards Jed's camp.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Totally understand, and I get it, And uh, ten million
dollars by out is very low right now, But you
just talked about it earlier. We're seven and seven in
the Big ten. We haven't beat any big time programmed yet,
so unless we beat Oregon, I wouldn't even have the discussion.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So let me ask you this. Then, if you let
him go, what is well, no, let me reverse that.
If you resign him, what's the downside to resigning him?
What is the real downside? You think all of a
sudden he's going to be a six and six coach
every year.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Downside is if he falls apart and you got to
buy him out. That's that's the downside. Yeah, but what's
the buyout right? Well, I mean well, the buyout for
him would whatever his contract, entire contract, right, So let's
say you give him a five year fifty million dollar
extension and then two years in you want to whack him.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
You're paying him thirty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Look, if they can find someone, they can find someone
to write the check, then go for it.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
But I think you're here. Here's the thing, though, they
are going to be better in two years now with
him than they would be in two years if he's gone,
because you will be starting over, as simple as that.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
You can't always say that about starting over either. When
we seen we had to start over the last year,
when we seen what coach the board did.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, but I'm saying we went six and six.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Did you see what co We lost him on Tana
year before coach came. We went to the national championship
in two years. So you cayn't always say.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
So, we're gonna win the lottery twice. Well, most people
don't win it once.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
What what what Jed's done has been pretty impressive. But
here's the thing. I like what he's done. I like
the progress he's made. You like it, you don't love
they're still unranked. Yeah, and they're still looking back to
my first conversation and they're still and they're still about
the winning record and the big ten. I mean, if
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this was what Kaitlin was doing as a freakin loutely
lock him up.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, totally think about this. That might be more impetus
why we got to sign him now, because he's looking
at him inn I'm six and two, seven and two,
eight and two and I still can't get ranked. Well,
I might want to go somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
That and I guarantee you this man, he keeps winning,
the calls are gonna keep coming. There's no out his
his resume, his appeal is going to get bigger and
bigger and bigger across the country. And what you just said,
he's six and two, he can't get ranked. He goes
to a press conference on Thursday and there's seven people
there and.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I'm one of them.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Right, this is not like Florida or Penn State or
Michigan places that he's been to.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
By the way, you.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Know, ultimately I think Jedfish wants the NFL or Florida.
I don't know if Jedfish would take off for another
college job if it's not the Florida Gators.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I think in the end, ultimately the guy desires the NFL.
But there is a game, Greg, You're exactly right that
you've got to play. Because as long as coaches have
this power to get out of these contracts and have
people write a check to buy them out and then
they can take players with them, you're always on the
edge of your seat with this stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Yeah, and we knew that coming in, and I just
no matter what we have in this conversation, I just
say it's just not worth it. I would rather have
a new coach than I need Coach Fish. I need
to win a big game. If you're saying, our biggest
game victory since Coach Fish has been here is Illinois
last weekend, and I thought that Illinois team wasn't good,
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then no.
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Now it is my pleasure to.
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Welcome in one of the greatest running backs in Husky
football history, my friend Greg Lewis and a former Husky
legend eight or nine times.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Now you've done that.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Saturday, Mario Bailey out there with his mom, great family
photo in the end zone, being honored again for the
fifteenth time as the Husky football legend Saturday versus Illinois.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
How are you? I was the backup.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
And that's only my second time in the last twenty
five years.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Mario, don't let him give you a hard time. If
we recognized you every week between now the the time wait,
well deserved time out.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
You're telling me to not give him a hard time
when you were the one who spent eighty of the
three game.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Show pitching your money. How come I can't get a
second time? Did anyone on the air hear me say that, Yes,
they didn't. I didn't say that out there, deaf to
you guys off here. I think some people brought it
up to it hasn't done it well. Look maybe down
the road you'll deserve it well and we'll get you.
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Me and Mario will do it together. There you go
absolutely out ride receiver running back combo at one time.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
But this, uh, this was a pretty complete uh performance
by you, dub. I mean, they kind of do what
they always do a little bit and kind of fall behind.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
There early on.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
They need a little razzle dazzle to take the lead.
At halftime, we're up twenty one to seventeen after the
Denzel Boston to Joanah Coleman touchdown throw back from Devon Williams.
But then they also do what they've been doing a lot,
and you mentioned this Greg on the postgame show. Defense
steps up and they kind of run away in the
second half, twenty one to eight in the second half,
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by you dub seventy three to twenty one. Is what
this team has done in the second half of these games. Now,
a lot of that was Rutgers, a lot of that
was Illinois, and a lot of that was Maryland, no doubt.
But there's no question this team is starting slow. There's
also no question they're turning into a second half football team,
which is great.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, I would think. I would argue though that this
game in particular, that the offense really didn't start slow.
They scored twenty one points in the first half, and
outside of a drop pass by deck Or de Dgraf
on a third and four where he clearly had the
first down, they were scoring on every possession in the
first half, so three out of four. So I would
argue that offensively, they started fast. One drop kept him
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from being what could have been perfect. So I think offensively,
when we're at home, we've played extremely well. You know,
I know it took us a little while to get
going against Rutgers, but we played a great first half
on both sides of the ball to a degree, outside
of some mistakes. The second half, though, the defense certainly
picked it up and again Ryan Walters in his fashion,
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kind of pokes and prods and tests what's gonna work
against you in the first half, why keeping you from
scoring and getting out too far ahead? And then the
second half he brings the house. He brings exotic blitzes
and pressures and twists, he disguises coverages, he brings different coverages,
and he just puts the offense in a guessing game
sort of situation. And you know, unfortunately for them, they
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weren't guessing right most of the time. Ryan Walter seemed
to step ahead, and we were able to really run
away from Illinois because I think before the game we
all said Illinois's best attribute is their ability to score
the football, throw the ball deep. So let's give some
credit our corners because those guys are playing out standing football,
because hardly anybody all year has gotten behind them. They're
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playing great football. The defense as a whole is really
playing well.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I thought the offense was tremendous in the first half,
and they really made that last drive to score with
two minutes left on the clock. I think me and
Greg were having a conversation and I think that score
was really what triggered the victory. Our defense struggled a
little bit in the first half, but like Greg said,
in the second half, it just seems like he makes
great halftime adjustments and we always seem to come with
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more pressure. Before a second it looked like it was
gonna be a race to see who could score last,
but our defense stepped it up in the second half.
I really love seeing Jonah. I lovedidding the second half.
We went away from Roerbaki made it where we could
actually go to Denzel, and Denzel played a phenomenal game,
got the Big Ten Player of the Week and he
definitely deserved it. And I think if we could see
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that from him every week, and we could see our
offense play like that every week from the beginning, would
be a different type of team.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Two hundred and forty yards of offense in the first
half for you, Dub and then you guys you mentioned Denzel.
Boston obviously had a huge day ten for one hundred
and fifty three through the touchdown pass to Jonah Coleman,
firste hundred yard day against a Big Ten team for
him since the Rutgers game a week ago. So let's
get the wide receiver over here to weigh in on
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this guy, right, Is it all about Roebucks stepping up
and complimenting him?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Is it all about getting the offensive line back?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I mean, you kind of, you know, maybe find it
slightly coincidental that you get John Mills and Carver Willis
back and the freshman Roebuck is stepping up and Denzel
Boston has his best game of the year.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Well, it's a little bit of both.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
If you look at the first half, Warbuck had those
two touchdowns and that will make the defense look at
somebody else. And you look at the second half, we
went to Boston a lot, and I think you know,
of course that goes with the offensive line, but also
we had some time to throw him the ball, some
deep routes. He actually did some deep routes, but we
made a concerted effort to go at him. We were
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having a conversation pre game about him. If he's a
first rounder now, if he played like that every week, yeah,
there's no question he's a first rounder now.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
First, I want to know why Softie always gave me
such a hard time about calling Roma Donza Roma duns,
but he lets you get away with calling Roebuck He's
not Mike.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Three times here's a reason why, because you called Roma
Dunes for three years.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I'll have a conversation.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
He'll he'll clean it up and he'll address.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
You know what I'm I'm I think the Huskies played
a great football game, and I think that offensively, they
came in from the outset knowing what they wanted to do.
I want to give jet Fish some credit for being
in his bag, because he talked the week before about,
you know, we're down all these tight ends and we
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may have to play some freshmen and stuff like that.
But what he actually did, and I don't know if
a lot of people notice this, he made some strategic
moves with the tight end position during the game. He
actually had an offensive line that hitting switched to number
eighty whenever they wanted to run with the double tight
end set. But what he also did in plays where
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the tight ends where both of them get out in routes,
he went to what's called twenty personnel, right, and what
that means is you got two backs and a zero
tight ends. And what he did was is he had
Jonah Coleman and Adam muhammad In and Adam Muhammet was
running the routes that the tight end would normally run
from the running back position, so instead of bringing the
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younger guys along, which he probably felt like, aren't ready
or we don't want to burn their redshirt, we're going
to change our formation in our positions. And I thought
the play calling was better than it has been all year.
I think he made some adjustments again with his personnel groupings,
going to a lot of twenty person nil instead of
what you would call twelve personnel or eleven where you
got one back, one tight end, and that allowed them
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to do some of the same things they would do
if they had the extra tight end in without it
by doing that with the running back. So I thought
coach Fish to me had his best game as a
Husky play calling a Husky coach against you know, I'm
not saying they were the world beaters of defense, but
they're a good right but they're a good football team
and they've won. I think he had a great football game.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, Zach Hanning from Colorado, you're right, because I mean
they're just not you know, guys like Baron Naomi, the
freshman you know Austin, they're just not ready yet to
come in and be extra offensive lineman. Person great call
by you to see number eighty, you know, Zach Henning,
who I think we'res fifty six technically, but they had
him in there with number eighty's fifty eight. Sorry, so
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you'll see him at some point play offensive line. But
then on top of that, man, you know, Jacob Moner
doesn't play the game. And we were talking earlier excuse me,
on Saturday morning, would you have played him? And both
of you, I think all of us said yes, we
play him today, just play him, see what happens. Hopefully
they'll get a ruling. Blah blah blah. They did not
play him, and now we got three games against Wisconsin, Purdue,
and UCLA. I wonder if they're now of a frame
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of mind, Mario where they're gonna set him until the
Organ game unless they get some news between now and then.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, you have to those games that you just mentioned.
Those aren't the games.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
We're gonna be favored in all those games, So you're
trying to save him to Oregon. That's gonna be the
biggest game of the season. It's against our rivals and
we're at home. But we talked about a pregame last weekend.
Is like, will he be in shape, will be in
game shape? Will he be ready for that? So I'm
concerned with that. But if the coaches made that decision
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and hopefully he got to weigh in and that decision
as well, yeah I would hope.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
So yeah, I think Jedfish just knew we're better than Illinois,
We're better than them, and we don't need him. And
you know, that might sound, you know, a bit far
fetched for some people who you know, say, well, you
just lost the previous week. But I think the Huskies
are a really good football team, especially at home, and
when all things are considered, you can see a pathway
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for them to get to nine wins pretty easily or ten.
What I'm concerned with is we have an identity crisis
for our football team. Our football team is six and
two and won some good games. We are not ranked.
We are one a percent ranked, and that's a problem
for me and I think because if you're a football team,
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part of what you want to do is one appeal
to recruits, and recruits like stuff like being ranked, being
a high profile program. Rankings also get you better TV
slots and better game slots and all of that. So
all those things enhance your program. And raise the profile
of your team. Brings more fans to the games, right,
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It brings more people around, It creates more buzz. And
when your football program doesn't have that buzz and you're
six and two, you're not getting that respect. That's an issue.
And I don't know who needs to fix that, but
somebody needs to fix the perception of our football program
because you can't win six seven eight games not be
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ranked and expect there to be excitement around, expect to
keep coaches who are hearing from top twenty programs. Well,
if I go nine to two at the University of Washington,
I can't be ranked. But if I go over here.
So those are all things that I think we got
to start talking about discussing. Somebody needs to up the
level of the marketing and the reputation of our football
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program because we're trying to peel to kids who watch
those things.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, well, you appreciate the choir. I mean, I've been
talking about this all year long. I think the AP
poll is a dinosaur. I think it needs to go.
It drives me bananas. You know that we're sitting here
talking about putting teams in a certain spot over the
offseason that have proven nothing and where they start greatly
influences in a lot of ways where they're ranked now.
I mean Notre Dame for example, Right, look at Notre Dame.
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Notre Dame is five and two with a win over
USC They're number twelve in the country. You know why
because they started number six. Texas is six and two
and Texas does have a winnver Oklahoma, which is a
nice win for them. But they began the year number one,
and that's why they're where they are now. So if
Washington was ranked twentieth, fifteenth, whatever when the year started,
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maybe they'd be a top fifteen team right now. So
this is about where you are in July when you
get ranked based on perceptions of you.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, but we as a program got to do up
our profile there. We can't just sit back and say,
well the AP didn't What do we need to do?
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
So you're a former Athletic Department employee, right if you're
telling me that you don't think the university is doing enough.
What I'm hearing you say and if I'm wrong then
you correct me, is that you don't think the university
is doing enough to market This thing is that what
you're saying.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
What I'm seeing is is somebody needs to figure out
what we're not doing, someone who's a part of the staff,
a part of the department. Where can we pull more levers,
what can we do more of it? And I say
that because we have a two team and we have
one of the most exciting players in the country. Yeah,
starting at quarterback, right, and nobody knows about it. Here's
the thing.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
So we come off that sumble, right Mario against Louisville
and Demon Williams goes bananas and we're all excited about
Demon Williams. That did nothing for the national media in
the AP because the Huskies did not get one vote
in the Preseason Bowl. They weren't even appearing in the
others receiving votes category and there was like twenty teams.
They were like fiftieth in the country as voted on
(14:28):
by the Associated Press, and they had a lot of
new guys, obviously a lot of new faces. I happen
to think that this is all just still coming out
of the Kalin de Boor thing, turning over the roster,
blowing it all up. John Wilder is going to join
us at five and we'll dive into this more. But
do you think there's a problem over there that they
got to figure out why they're not getting more.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Love or is this just the way of the world now.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I don't understand how the landscape goes, so I don't
know if it's marketing, but it's definitely a problem. And
what Greg said is definitely true about like the recruits,
Like we have to be in the top twenty five,
we have to be ranked. We're a six and two
team with maybe three dynamic players, so it's a wonder
that we're not. But we have to do something. We
have to fix this problem because recruits, incoming recruits and
(15:13):
the guys we have now. Greg is right when he says,
like we're six and two, we're not ranked, not nationally known.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
We have to figure it out. I don't know who's
responsible for that.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
And the ap pole has been garbage ever since I
played thirty five years ago.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Star Badge.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Yeah, you can't go with that, but there has to
be something that changes this landscape around.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
For the University of Washington.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Well, Houston is seven and two and they got to
win over Arizona State, who is now out of the
top twenty five because Houston beat them. When I look
at the Washington beat ch ILLINOI and they're out of
the top twenty five because they beat them.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
I see Michigan at twenty one, and that's where I say, Okay,
if Michigan's at twenty one and they beat us, then
I can understand it that way. But we still should
be sniffing or sneaking.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
It out there. There are two teams who are at
six and two are better in the top twenty five
US in Iowa. That's it in the Big Ten. So
is the Big Ten to me is the best conference.
We won the last two national championships. We have the
top ranked team, probably the two best teams in the
country right now. So by to some degree, being in
this conference should get you, you know, some weight. I
(16:19):
just think I'm not saying whose problem it is. I'm
just saying we need to be as a school willing
to figure out how to fix it.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I don't think we're respected in the Big Ten yet.
I think we're on the outside looking in. And it
didn't do us any favors that against Michigan and Ohio
State we scored seven and six points, and I think
they're always going to put us on the back end
of the Big ten, right.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Now, right, Well, I mean, look, guys, here's the deal.
We had the same problem on a little bit of
a smaller in some ways bigger, some way smaller. When
we went through this crap of Florida State two years
ago for the national championship run, that Florida State's resume
clearly was nowhere near.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Ye what Washington's was. Yeah, this isn't a new problem.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
And they were ranked ahead of us the entire year
until the quarterback and they had done nothing, and Washington's
resume was way more impressive than Florida State. Yet the voters,
the CFP people kept putting Florida State above Washington. And
Mario you talk about, you know, not being respected in
the Big Ten. I mean there's a part of me
that would ask, you know, what have they done to
(17:24):
be respected? I mean, they're a seven and seven team
in the Big Ten, and they played fourteen Big Ten
games and they're seven and seven. I think you're exactly right.
They play Ohio State, they play Michigan, they played Penn State,
they play Oregon. They need to start winning those games.
And they got one more left in a month against
the Ducks. They got three big ones between now and then.
(17:44):
We'll talk about that next on ninety three three KJRFM
Back to.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
The Coors Life Husky Hunks on Tuesdays, Ray Lewis, Mario
Bailey and Dave Suffi Mullen on your Home for the
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Speaker 1 (18:00):
Damon looking left, looks over the middle, staying cool at
the w dow was gonna go Pengling left forty five
forty thirty five to thirty. Damon has a first down
pussy puss off. A tackler spends inside the twenty DuMond
Williams says, get off me and rolls into the red
zone as the Huskies have first and ten.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
All right, The voice of Tony Kasher Coe want chat
more about that? Played by demand in a minute. I
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Go to seattlecrackin dot com slash tickets for more information
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Mario Bailey for the eighteenth time as a Husky football
legend at the game, so that that highlight. We I
guarantee you, Greg, that will not be the last time
he does that.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
It will be the last next time. I dude, I'm
gonna be seventy some years old.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
How about and you'll still look like you're fifteen too.
How about Demon william Is blowing up Miles Scott there,
defensive back for Illinois senior. He's probably given twenty five
pounds or so because Miles Scott's listed at two ten
and Demon's what a buck ninety buck eighty five around
there whatever, and just blew him up, which to us
was like, Hey, that's great.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
But did Jetfish think the same thing. I don't know.
Let's do J Fish. I'm asking you, well, I think
Demond Williams is a lot tougher than we gave him
credit for it. Not that we've never said he wasn't tough,
but I think, you know, we've been concerned with him
running all the time and taking hits because his diminutive size.
I'm no longer with that. I mean, yet, a guy
(19:51):
can get hurt on any play and we don't want
him running the ball thirty times a game. But what
I saw on that play is Demon William is one
tough SOB. This kid can not only take hits, he
can give him out. And the defensive player on that yeah,
he should be ashamed of himself. I mean he literally should.
If you get run over by a quarterback that's like
one hundred and eighty five pounds, you should take off
(20:12):
your helmet and your shoulder pats. I mean literally, you
should be ashamed of yourself because that's a little guy
when you over. But we've talked about this before.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
No, this isn't about toughness, because even tough guys get hurt, right, Yeah,
I mean nobody is.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I'm talking about his mentality.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Nobody's debating his correct mentality, nobody's debating his desire, nobody's
debating his willingness to take on defenders.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Nobody would do that. But even those guys get hurt.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
You guys have all played with tough guys before, the
toughest guys you know, and they eventually get banged up,
and it's even worse when they're playing quarterbacks. So all
it takes is one hit like that and you blow
a shoulder out.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Mario.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yep, it's one of those plays where coaches. I came
over to the sideline.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Great play.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Never do that again, that's right, Never ever do that again.
Do not over your shoulder, get out of bound, slide,
figure something out. But he should never do that again.
We're never questioning that young man's toughness. Coach knows that,
we know that he can play, he can play forever,
but we we don't want him to do that.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I loved it. I loved it. I loved it over
and then he did the double spin move. Yeah, I
would never do it again. I think all of us
love it, but I was him man. It was great
in the moment, but my god, did we survive him
him on? Yes, we survived that.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Okay, So when he does that again and he gets
banged up, and you got to see, what's the guy's name,
ky Horton, we'll then we'll ask.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
You what's the guys? Are you kidding me? Ky Horton?
You asked you came on this show too much. Anybody
knows this guy. I knew the guy's name before the show.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
What about what about some of these calls, man, the quarterback,
the late hit on ty Tie that was called uh,
the defensive pass interference on Takario that wiped out, and
a picked by him. I don't know, man, I'm starting
to wonder if Pac twelve refs are better than Big
ten refs seeing a lot of the same stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I think some Pack ten refs did sneak into the
game because the Pack ten officials were awful. But had
guy was a PAC twelve guy brother, so for his
influence infected everybody. But I will say this, the team
is good enough to overcome those bad calls. When your
team is good enough to overcome mistakes, because they made
some of those and some bad calls, that means they're
playing at a higher level. Now when we play against
(22:30):
the toughest teams in the country and we see the
Oregon Ducks, we can't do those kinds of things and
we don't need those bad calls. So I think this
team is just that level. You know what. You know
we talked about the big Mario said, getting respect in
the Big ten, and what does that mean? Ohio State's
the best team in the Big Ten right now, Indiana's
probably playing the second best, and we know Organ's a
(22:51):
good football team. After that, maybe Michigan and.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Us there a third tier, third tier.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I think the third tier doing this second tier are compressed,
So maybe we're not the second tier. Maybe that is
Michigan right now. But I would argue that if we
played Michigan different time, different plays and all that, we
can beat Michigan. So I think we're in that, you know,
second thirdest tier in the Big Ten. So this year,
if we went nine and three and lost the Oregon
you know, guys know, I hate that, but I'm just saying,
(23:20):
if we did, does that mean we should deserve respect?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Now, if we went nine and three and lost Oregon, Nope,
it's going to be the same thing as it was
this year. They're gonna worry. We're gonna have to make
sure that we recruit and we get some guys in
the portal and we're gonna come back twenty five or
twenty four. We're not gonna get respect if we lose
to the top three teams in the league.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Son, one of those three got it, got to get three.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
We're happy with Illinois because they were ranked twenty five,
but not even Moore high.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I think the top six or sevent teams in the
Big Ten should have respect because.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Not only are we not playing well, we're scoring seven
to six points and we're talking about we have this
dynamic offense.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Right.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
It's like the when we kept going on the road
last year to Penn State, and I would like, welcome
to the Big Ten, welcome to the Big Ten's.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
But I will would say that this year.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I just, guys, I just think I just think Mario
hit the nail on the head last segment that when
when you have a marquee game, and a marquee game
doesn't always mean the higher ranked team, right, because you
know Michigan wasn't.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I mean, come on, they're not a great marquee Michigan.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
You play, you play Michigan, you play Ohio State, you
play Oregon. As much as that makes you want to vomit.
You play Penn State and you don't show up and
you get drilled and you don't score. That's what people remember.
And this is why this is why you're on the
Big Ten network. It's why you're playing games you know
at times that people don't bind to be appealing.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
So look, you're seven and seven.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I mean we're literally saying here that the Illinois game
Saturday was maybe Jedfish's biggest win his Husky career.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Well, they're no longer a ranked team. They were twenty third. Okay,
let me ask you this then, right now, the most
important thing I think for our program is consistency. Consistency
and the coaching staff and all of that in order
to get to that next level. Right you just said
he's seven and seven to big ten. He's six and
two this year. If he ends up winning nine or
(25:21):
ten games, maybe other people start coming after. Do you
sect in him right now to keep that from happening
when he's only six and two and only seven and seven,
do you need to extend Jetfish right now? Take the chance?
And God forbid? He goes, yeah, yeah, only wins one
more game this year, but if he wins three or four,
(25:42):
now you have a chance to lose him because you
do extend him right now. What do you do if
you're the you have athletic department with Jetfish right now?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Well that thought we'll talk about that next on ninety
three three KJRFM.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
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Speaker 1 (26:40):
The local kid Rayshaun clark Y big interception first of
his career and played a really solid game. All right, Mario?
How about you?
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Well when ex Alexander thought he flew around the entire game, I.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Love it all right.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
We talked about this last segment, so a lot of
job openings in college football. Florida's open, Penn State's open,
LSU is open, UCLA is open. To name a few,
Jedfish has been around. He likes to move around a lot.
This is an era in college football where coaches leaving
they take players with him. You asked on the air
last segment if the Huskies should beat Jedfish and the
(27:14):
rest of college football of the punch and sign him
to a new extension right now. They did not do
that with Caitlyn Deborn time, obviously, and he took off
and went to Alabama. So what do we think, Mario?
Is it time to extend Jedfish? Have you seen enough
after a year and a half to give the guy
brand new contract.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
No, I'm not extending anybody after two years. I might
think about it if we were to go ten to
two and we beat Oregon, then I might have the conversation.
I understand the dynamics of it, and I see all
these jobs opening, and I know coach Fish has a
history of leaving, and I see how he came here
and he brought them on here, So I understand.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
But a year and a half in, I would not
extend it. If he goes ten and two. And you
wait until then, you're not even going to be in
the conversation because there will be big time programs that
will already have offers that you can't match in front
of him. I guarantee you that. So by waiting that long,
you're saying he's gone. And you know there are certain
(28:10):
number of jobs Softy just mentioned right now that are open.
They're going to be more open between that. We've seen
that people are willing to pay seventy six million dollar
buyouts like they did with Jimbo Fisher at Texas A
and M to get rid of coaches. So they're going
to be more jobs open because people want to win.
Right now, if you let your coach leave after he
(28:31):
and I would pick the over under at eight. If
he wins more than eight games, which nine or more
is a very distinct possibility, he'll be an attractive candidate.
And are you willing to roll the dice to lose him?
And Desmond? I'm sorry, Demon and some of your other
top players. Is not just Demond. There's guys like Roebuck
and people like that that you may also lose, whether
(28:53):
they go with him or they go somewhere else. And
then start all the way over again. Sure, I think
you have to old dice and maybe make the extention. Well,
there's precedent for this.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I mean they Jen did it with Debor after the
first eleven games before the Apple Cup, they gave him
a new deal. They didn't get to the second deal
obviously because he waited on that and took off to
go to Alabama. But they were nine to two in
November of twenty twenty two heading into the Apple Cup,
and you dub announced an extension for Kaitlin de Bor.
So when you think you got something, you might want
(29:26):
to jump on it and keep the guy. I mean,
here's the deal though, with Jedfish. His buy out for
him to get out of this contract is only ten million.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
That's low.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Now Dan Lannings is twenty million at Oregon, So this
is another Troy dan and special. When he signed Jedfish
to this contract, he made it pretty damn easy for
Jedfish to walk away. And Jed can wait all the
way until the middle of January to take another job
because of where the calendar is on the buyout. So
it's very heavily favored towards Jed's camp.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Totally understand, and I get it, And uh, ten million
dollars by out is very low right now, But you
just talked about it earlier. We're seven and seven in
the Big ten. We haven't beat any big time programmed yet,
so unless we beat Oregon, I wouldn't even have the discussion.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So let me ask you this. Then, if you let
him go, what is well, no, let me reverse that.
If you resign him, what's the downside to resigning him?
What is the real downside? You think all of a
sudden he's going to be a six and six coach
every year.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Downside is if he falls apart and you got to
buy him out. That's that's the downside. Yeah, but what's
the buyout right? Well, I mean well, the buyout for
him would whatever his contract, entire contract, right, So let's
say you give him a five year fifty million dollar
extension and then two years in you want to whack him.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
You're paying him thirty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Look, if they can find someone, they can find someone
to write the check, then go for it.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
But I think you're here. Here's the thing, though, they
are going to be better in two years now with
him than they would be in two years if he's gone,
because you will be starting over, as simple as that.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
You can't always say that about starting over either. When
we seen we had to start over the last year,
when we seen what coach the board did.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, but I'm saying we went six and six.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Did you see what co We lost him on Tana
year before coach came. We went to the national championship
in two years. So you cayn't always say.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
So, we're gonna win the lottery twice. Well, most people
don't win it once.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
What what what Jed's done has been pretty impressive. But
here's the thing. I like what he's done. I like
the progress he's made. You like it, you don't love
they're still unranked. Yeah, and they're still looking back to
my first conversation and they're still and they're still about
the winning record and the big ten. I mean, if
(31:39):
this was what Kaitlin was doing as a freakin loutely
lock him up.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, totally think about this. That might be more impetus
why we got to sign him now, because he's looking
at him inn I'm six and two, seven and two,
eight and two and I still can't get ranked. Well,
I might want to go somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
That and I guarantee you this man, he keeps winning,
the calls are gonna keep coming. There's no out his
his resume, his appeal is going to get bigger and
bigger and bigger across the country. And what you just said,
he's six and two, he can't get ranked. He goes
to a press conference on Thursday and there's seven people
there and.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I'm one of them.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Right, this is not like Florida or Penn State or
Michigan places that he's been to.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
By the way, you.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Know, ultimately I think Jedfish wants the NFL or Florida.
I don't know if Jedfish would take off for another
college job if it's not the Florida Gators.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I think in the end, ultimately the guy desires the NFL.
But there is a game, Greg, You're exactly right that
you've got to play. Because as long as coaches have
this power to get out of these contracts and have
people write a check to buy them out and then
they can take players with them, you're always on the
edge of your seat with this stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Yeah, and we knew that coming in, and I just
no matter what we have in this conversation, I just
say it's just not worth it. I would rather have
a new coach than I need Coach Fish. I need
to win a big game. If you're saying, our biggest
game victory since Coach Fish has been here is Illinois
last weekend, and I thought that Illinois team wasn't good,
(33:04):
then no.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
All right, well we'll ask John Wilner that question when
he comes on with us next segment.
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We'll shout about them next week. All right, you guys
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Speaker 3 (33:28):
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twenty fifth time again as the Husky football legend.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Good stuff. John Wilder is gonna join.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
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don't give me that look.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Don't give me that look. I'm just ready.
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