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October 7, 2024 37 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain, plus Jackson Felts, discuss the Seahawks’ shocking loss to the Giants yesterday, plus the huge upset victory for the Washington Huskies over Michigan, plus get to Fact or Fiction and Fun with Audio clips.
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We have a short show. The Husky Hawks will be
at six today. We have a short show with Monday

(01:09):
Night football with Kansas City and New Orleans playing at
five point fifteen. That I actually like shows like this
where we can kind of just maybe breathe a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Don't have a lot of guests on the air with us.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Will Rodgers will join us for his usual Monday four
thirty interview.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
He was not with us a.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Week ago because of all the crazy stuff going on,
or two weeks ago before the Rutgers game, but he
will be with us.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
I did the.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Smart thing and reached out to him ahead of time
last night and made sure. Now with you guys leaving
Friday for Iowa, you're good to go. He said, Yes,
I'm good to go. So great time to have Will
Rodgers on the air coming off there whenever the Michigan
Wolverines on Saturday at Husky Stadium, we'll do a little
fun with out of You at three forty five. We're
gonna hear from Jed Fish and Mike McDonald at around
four o'clock this afternoon and then obviously kickoff with the

(01:53):
Chiefs and Saints coming up at five point fifteen. So
I will be honest with you, Jackson, I don't think
you heard the because you were hanging out with your
wife during her birthday dinner last night, right correct the
postgame show that Dick Fane and Hugh Millan did yesterday,
which was phenomenal. By the way, if I didn't know you,
and I do know you, so I don't think this.

(02:15):
But if I did not know you and who you are,
I would have thought tuning into last night's game, that's
a guy that just lost a.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Buttload of money on the seas and he's pissed off.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
I did not lose a buttload of money on the CEO.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Because that's exactly what you sounded like when you took
the year. I have never heard you that angry after
a football game, and I don't blame you.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
I'm not saying you're wrong and ought to feel that way.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
I mean, that was an absolute disgrace from everybody's perspective,
starting with the head coach down.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Look, I mean this is.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Not a commentary on where Mike McDonald's going to be
in five years from now or his you know, odds
of having success in Seattle. It's not a commentary on anything.
I mean, every great coach, any great player whatever. I mean,
Geno Smith may be the MVP for all I know,
Ryan grub might be the greatest offensive coordinator history of
the NFL.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Be a head coach next season.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
I got no idea, But for yesterday, that was an
absolute turt sandwich of an effort by everybody. It was
a bad effort by the coaching staff. It was a
bad effort by the players. It was a bad effort
by the line of scrimmage. It was a bad effort
by anything that the officials maybe missing the hands of
the face call, which I just saw, by the way,
on that block field goal that sealed the deal for

(03:27):
the Giants. I mean, Jackson's like off the ear talking about, Hey,
let's get a pizza. Which pizza by the way, they
got great pies here at the EMRA Queen, and let's
just cut it up. And my first question to Jackson was,
if we're doing a blame pizza pie, how big is
the pizza.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
We're talking like ten.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Slices, We're talking twenty slices of pizzas it's one of
those little Caesars square things, so there's like forty different
pizzas on there.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
You can bring it to a birthday party. It's eighteen
feet long.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
So I mean, I guess we just kind of start
number one reason why the Seahawks lost that game. And look,
we can talk about the overall approach might be the
number one reason why. When you wake up and you
read about guys that are admitting they took the Giants lightly,
that's a problem.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
That's a big okay.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
I mean, that's an issue inside the locker room that
Mike McDonald has got to address.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
So outside of that stuff, right.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
If we're just looking at individual moments, individual players, individual coaches.
You wake up today, you're angry, you're breathing fire. Right,
who is getting the majority of your eyre today after
yesterday's twenty seven seven seventeen loss to the Giants?

Speaker 5 (04:36):
You go first, Ryan Grubb.

Speaker 6 (04:39):
I do not understand once again, and I know I've
been beating this drum for a long long time and
it sounds like more and more people are jumping on
the bandwagon with me. I do not understand why he
completely forgets about number nine, completely forgets about the running game,
particularly in the early stages of the game. And now
teams are just toying with him because teams know now
that there is going to be a situation where if

(05:01):
we just show a loaded front, Ryan's never gonna run.
We can totally take Grub's run game away just by saying,
you know what, We're gonna stack the box on you,
and he's not even gonna try. And now you have
gone the last four first half quarters, two against Detroit
and two against the Giants, and you have put up

(05:21):
a total of seven offensive points with a total of
six carries for ken Walker, and that cannot If that continues,
the Seattle Seahaws are gonna win seven games if that continues.
If he wants Gino throwing forty plus times a game
and ken Walker to get ten or less touches, they're

(05:43):
gonna be three or four games under five hundred at
the end of the season.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
There's no question in my mind. Kay Jackson Dick says,
Ryan Grubb number one for you.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I agree with with that, Ryan Grubb for one for me,
But I would I would say, like, if Ryan Grubb
gets like twenty slices, So if Ryan Grub gets like
four slices a peek then I would say that then,
and this pizza is like a poot pizza. It's not
a Pepperoni pizza. It's got bushrooms.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
And right, like, who the spinach who help puts let
us on their pizza?

Speaker 4 (06:11):
People actually do that? What's wrong with you? And I
get a damn salad?

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I mean, it's it's way worse than vegetables. This is
straight poop pizza. I would I would say for me,
it's it's an element of If Ryan Grubb gets four slices,
the defense gets three and a half slices, it's right there,
right alongside the chunk plays that they just kept giving up.
The freaking Tyrone Tracy. Who the hell is Tyrone Tracy?
And he just cashed us over and over Gray in

(06:37):
the first drive. I mean, just like, come on, who
are these guys and they're getting us on these massive plays.
Slayton is like thirty eight years old. I think he's
thirty eight years old, So like, how are these guys
getting chunk plays on a Mike McDonald defense?

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, well, uh, I mean all that's fair.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
I would not put Grub number one, but I put
him pretty close to the top.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
For that game yesterday.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
And look, I mean, you guys know how I feel
about Ryan, and I think all of us actually feel
the same way. Then eventually he's gonna work out and
be pretty damn good. I mean, the guy's got a
hell of a legacy in this town for what he
did at Washington, But none of that matters on game
day when you're coaching the Seahawks. Obviously, the opposing defenses
don't give a damn that you went to the National
Championship game as the offensive coordinary at you Dubs. So

(07:21):
you know, he's got recognition, he's got credibility in this town,
there's no question about it.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
But this is a different animal now.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
And I think for me, you talked about who the
hell's Tyrone Tracy. Tyrone Tracy is the kind of guy
that will burn you when you don't respect who you're playing.
That's exactly who Tyrone Tracy is. Tyrone Tracy. How many
times have you mentioned all those backup schmuck quarterbacks that
we've lost.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
To in the last three or four years, And that's
probably the last time I was this ticked after a
Seahawk loss.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
So when you play one of those dudes, when Colt
McCoy comes here and beats you. In twenty twenty, n
Wafferd beats you in the playoffs. That's because you don't
give a damn. That's exactly how that happens, because you're
not prepared, because you're thinking that you're the cock of
the walk and you're you know, big time. We can
just show up and you can just wake up and
put your pants on, and you'd show up to the
stadium and get away with the victory. So that's who

(08:10):
Tyrone Tracy is. That's when you lose to no name
guys like that. But I would put for me, and
I don't think there's a really big gap honestly, like
Jackson and you're talking about four pieces a poop pie
versus three and a half piece as a poop pie.
I don't know who your number two guy is, but
maybe he's five percent behind Ryan Grubb. I got no idea.
Maybe for you it's rubbed by a mile. For me,

(08:32):
it's the players. It's absolutely the players. And look, in
the end, if this stuff continues, the coaches won't be
able to escape it. We said the same thing about
Jetfish and Washington. If they continue to get these ridiculous penalties.
At some point, it doesn't matter the players, it's going

(08:52):
to be the coach's fault.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
And guess what they did against Michigan. They had two.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Flags, one for fifteen yards on a hand to the
faith call, one more for five and that was it.
They did a marvelous job of cleaning up the penalties
against the Michigan Wolverines on Saturday. So kudos to those guys,
and we'll talk more about them in a second, but
I just think that for now, I don't have a
big problem going back to yesterday's game and saying Trey

(09:19):
Brown played terribly in that game.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
I mean, it's like they had ten guys on the
field on defense.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Gino Smith is a veteran not knowing where the first
down marker is on third and eleven the first play
of the fourth quarter that led to a sack on
fourth down that led to a field goal going back
the other way. That's three points. Keep track of these points,
Jackson Smith and Jigba has a drop on fourth down,
excuse me, third down late in the game. The next
play was the black field goal that got returned for

(09:45):
a touchdown. That's ten points. DK Metcalf has a fumble
early third quarter. The Seahawks are driving, just like they
were Dick against the Lions on Monday Night. They go
from their own twenty nine to the Giant twenty one
in three plays. Marvelous, bing bang boo, looking phenomenal in
a ten to ten game, early third quarter, exactly what

(10:06):
we thought they'd do.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Kind of turned things on in the second half.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Okay, here we go and DK Metcalf fumbles the ball
just like he did Monday night against the Lions. Four
plays later, seventy seven yards later, it's a seventeen to
ten game.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
That's seven more points. How many points is that?

Speaker 5 (10:21):
Twenty four?

Speaker 4 (10:22):
That's twenty four if.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
You include well, it's actually it's it's it's seventeen for
the Giants.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
Yeah, are you counting both sides what we could have
gotten on the offensive ends.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Also, well, it's also if you just take off the
three and maybe talk about a touchdown potentially for the Hawks.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
It's either twenty or twenty four exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
But it's seventeen points on the scoreboards directly that we
know that the Giants directly were able to score because
of mistakes by Seahawk players. So look, I get the
grub stuff. I wasn't with you a week ago on
the play calling. I'm with you on it now. I
mean yesterday game. Those are two different games for me.

(11:01):
You got one hundred and seventy seven yards of offense
in the first half. What they have in the first
half yesterday. By the way, Dick, how many yards of
offense the first half?

Speaker 4 (11:08):
I got it right here, all right.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
The Seahawks had total yards they had, well, they had
They had eighty eight yards passing and they had two
yards rushing, so they.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
Had ninety yards of offense. That's a different deal they had.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
They had They had almost one hundred and eighty yards
in the first half, and yesterday had nineties.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
So these are two different things.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
They got to figure out a way to get Kenny
Walker involved when the passing game isn't even working.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
And that's the thing. And here's the question that I
got just to.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
I would say they got to get involved when the
passing game is working as well.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Right, That's fine, because otherwise the defenses are.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
Just gonna pin their ears back and rush every single
play and Gino is gonna get decimated with that right line.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
But even more so, it's not like This wasn't like
last Monday, is my point. When Gino Smith was cooking,
they were throwing the ball around the yard, they were
moving the ball that was that wasn't even happening right.
But again, Dick, it's because Metcalf fumbled the ball. I
don't have any problem. We're gonna just disagree forever on
the Ryan games. That's telling you I agree with you
on yesterday's game. Not that you're looking for affirmation. You

(12:09):
shouldn't give a damn what I think. But I'm telling
you I agree with what your take on yesterday's play calling.
Was not a good day for Ryan Grubb. But you
know what, Ryan Grubb has had days like that. Ryan
Grub had an awful day. Ryan Grub had an awful
day versus Arizona State. Ryan Greb had an awful day
versus Washington State in the Applica. Okay, so he's gonna
have games like that. Out of seventeen games, does he

(12:31):
have two of them? Does he have three of them?
And can they overcome like they did against Arizona State
and Wazoo and try to find a way to win.
I don't know if he can get away with that
at this level. But they do have to get Kenny.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Walker more involved.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
My question to you guys is this, Can we just
operate under the idea that Ryan Grubb is not a moron? Yes,
we all agree on that that Ryan Grubb is not stupid.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
Not stupid, But I do think he gets hooked into
a theme and in it like takes a freaking mac
truck to push him away from that theme.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Okay, But and the question is why I don't know why? Why?

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Well, let's talk about we don't know, because I don't
think we can go on the air here and rip
Ryan Grubb for not running the football without talking about
why he's not running the football.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
I know why he's not running the he's running though
he's not running.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
You know why running well, because he's he's not running
football because he he has two or three plays and
that's all there is. There was four in the Detroit
game in the first half, and there was two yesterday.
He gets two or three plays where ken Walker runs
into a wall and he's like, well, that's not gonna work.
But we have seen ken Walker much longer than we've
seen Ryan Grubb. Ken Walker has been around here for years,

(13:39):
and ken Walker can consistently starts off running into walls
and then he breaks free. And if you don't give
him the opportunity to run in the walls seven eight
nine times for twenty five yards, he's not gonna get
you one hundred and ten hundred and twenty yards in

(13:59):
the game because he's not being allowed to get to
that point. That's just what ken Walker in ken Walker
is not a three and a half four yards and
a cloud of dust back. He's a one yard one yards,
zero yards, three yards, twenty four yards, four yards, twenty
eight yards. That's what ken Walker is. You have to
allow him to get revved up so he gives you

(14:20):
those chuck runs.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Well, but he's he doesn't believe that obviously, Ryan, clearly,
because if he did, he'd do what you're talking about.
Ryan Grubb has a confidence problem with his running game
right now. He's got a confidence problem with his offensive line.
And this offensive line is not good, right I mean,
this is not the offensive line that we thought we
were gonna see when the year began, Like after the
draft in May, when we got Jim Mora on the

(14:41):
air and he's drooling over Christian Haynes. This guy's gonna
be great. Big O'lu's gonna take the next step. Abe
Lucas is gonna come back, and if he's not, we
got big George Fantas step in there. None of those
guys are playing, none of them, Like I mean, Big
o'l Lou can't even get on the field. Christian Haynes
is getting beat out by Anthony Bradford and George Fans banged.
I mean, this is not even close to the offensive

(15:02):
line that we thought we were gonna have after the draft.
Connor Williams looks like what he is a guy that's
coming off acl surgery that probably came back a little
bit too early. So for whatever reason, he's got a
little bit of a confidence issue I think with his guys,
and I just wonder if we could get him on
the air, I would ask him like, what are you
seeing in practice, for example, that leads you to go

(15:24):
with this game plan on Sunday? Because we all agree
that Ryan Grubb Jackson is not.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Stupid now, So if Ryan Grubb is.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Watching practice and he's looking at an offensive line that's
blowing people off the ball, and then he goes to
something the exact opposite on Sunday, then he is an idiot,
but he's not an idiot.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
And he's not seeing that.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
So I just wonder how much of this is a
bigger problem. Then maybe we realize, yes, he can come
out Jackson Thursday night and Dick and start pounding Kenny
Walker and see what happens. Right, But do we have
an issue with our offensive line and this rushing game.
Is this Seahawk offense be forced to be one dimensional
Jackson because the offensive line can't get the job done?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I don't think so. I go back to that first
game of the year where Kenny Walker looks fine against
a Denver defense that it's not a bad defense defense,
I think, I think it's a good front seven. So
like Walker looked good, I think against Denver he had
big chunk runs. And to Dick, I think you're absolutely right.
As he got going more in that Denver game, he
that second half, he brew starting to break off longer

(16:24):
and longer runs. I think it really kind of it
just comes down to this singular game, right, which was
they had less offensive plays in the first half, which
is you know a lot of reasons why, Right, They've
also had I think more of a situation where they
were down, And I think we're seeing a little bit
of the youth of Mike McDonald right now, where he
sees himself down by seven points and he says, all right,

(16:45):
we need to pass to get back in or maybe
Ryan Grubbs says that. I don't know either one of them.
I think they see themselves down seven and they suddenly
think they're down twenty one. You're only down a touchdown, Like,
come on, guys.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
In most of these games they've only been if they're down,
they're only down one score. Yeah, it's not been a
must path. The only must pass situation was like the
last seven or eight minutes of the game yesterday.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
But this line number two, But yeah, this number is.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
Scary, guys.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
Seattle is number one in pass play percentage in the NFL,
and the gap between one and two is the same
as the gap between.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Two and ten. Yeah that'll change.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
That is how much that is how past dominant this
football team is right now.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, that'll change.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
I mean it's week five, I mean you know that's
that that number is gonna look totally different by the
end of the year. And if it doesn't, if it
doesn't look totally different by the end of the year,
then either A they have no running game or B
they're just in love with the pass.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
And I think it's gonna change on Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
I don't know if Thursday night's the night to maybe
see the running game erupt against the Niners defense.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
We'll find out, obviously.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
I mean the Cardinals had some success clearly yesterday in
that game, but I I just think there's a deeper
question about what is going on over there that leads
them to totally abandon the run. And honestly, unless MacDonald
is just saying, hey, it's your show, right, you have
total autonomy over the offense not getting involved in saying
let's run the ball, I mean they didn't run the

(18:05):
ball at all. They didn't run the ball in the
first half or the second half yesterday.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
They just didn't the entire game.

Speaker 6 (18:11):
And then part of the defensive woes have to do
with that, because you're not helping your defense out if
you're not balanced on offense.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Well, I think some of it, not all of it.
I don't want to give the defense a pass for yes.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
No, I'm not doing that, but you make it easy.
You do make it easier. You make it easier on
your pass game. When you run and you make it
easier on your defense.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
When you run well, you make it easier when you
have the ball. Period, end the story.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
And what did Ryan Grubb do at Washington when he
needed a big third down?

Speaker 4 (18:36):
You threw the ball.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Fourth down, they threw the ball. Okay, So I don't
really care how you move the ball, just move it.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
And what was the.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Clock time in yesterday's game? It was ridiculous, right, it
was something just yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:49):
I mean we had the ball most of the fourth quarter,
so that closed the gap a little bit, but at
one point it was it was just a domination.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
It was thirty seven, twenty two to twenty two, thirty eight,
and that's with the fourth quarter going the way it
did at halftime it was twenty one. It was almost
twenty two to eight at halftime. We're gonna break factor
fiction coming up. Some of your thoughts on the text
line who do you blame for yesterday?

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Speaker 6 (19:32):
Got a lot of the Shotgun takes a snap, He's
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Speaker 4 (19:35):
Tuttle has tons of time. He zips it near a
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Speaker 3 (19:41):
In the sixth year, Senior comes up with the interception
five four three two.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Tuttle takes the snap. Here's the final play.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
Of the game.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
All the way the dead and here come to students.
You can paint this one with.

Speaker 7 (19:58):
A big purple.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
You only second time in two years we had a
chance to rush the field the Oregon game week six
and now Michigan week six this year.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
About that? What is it with week six? We saved?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
We save our field storming for the programs, not San
Jose State. Is that a shot at Wazoo? That was
a shot at Wazoo Jackson, by the way, just so
you know, that's Dick Fane, Dick Fane, Richard Lee Fane
with a shot across the bow.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
That was next time Washington fans stormed the field against
San Jose State.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
I'm selling my but it really okay, I'm gonna write
that down.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
Yeah, if I don't think we have need to worry
about if we.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Go in twelve the previous year and open the next year,
they still do not think we would ever storm the
field even under those circumstances.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
What if San Jose State makes the playoff?

Speaker 6 (20:42):
Oh, if you're telling me san Jose State becomes a
national power and is ranked five and air for what
he wishes or what was is San Jose State of power?

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Right now?

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Did I miss something?

Speaker 6 (20:51):
Because I mean maybe if they weren't ranked five in
America then okay.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Just said, if they ever play San Jose State and
storm the field, you'll give up your season.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Take I will sell my jackson. I swear to God.
I hope we played santosday.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Stay there when they're really really good, all right, because
that would be awesome. Anyway, A great win by U
dub The four hundred and twenty nine total yards, by
the way, is the most allowed by Michigan since the
semi final loss to TCU in twenty twenty two. That
was twenty one games ago. The Huskies have now won

(21:22):
eighteen games in a row at Husky Stadium. But maybe
the most important thing that I took from Saturday's game.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Two flags on the hustbus.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Not three, not twelve, not twenty two flags against Washington.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
And what did I want to see?

Speaker 3 (21:38):
What was the number one thing that I was hoping
to see in this game Saturday by udub You.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Know what it is?

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Offensive line protection, offensive line taking care of the ball,
offensive line protecting for Will Rodgers, offensive line not being dumb,
not being completely overrun. And there's one example of that
I want to throw at you, and we can talk
to Will Rodgers about this.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
At four thirty.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Go look at Jonah Coleman's touchdown when he leaped over
the offense line. And look at what di Angelo titi
Ali did to Mason Graham. This is a top ten
draft pick in the NFL. Have you seen this play
I'm talking about? Go back and remember the play. I
don't remember the blaw. Okay, I'm gonna show it to
you during the break, and I'm gonna promise you you're
gonna have a hard time keeping your pants.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Wow, you will have a hard time keeping your pants on.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Okay, when you watch this play in the break, I
might have to wait and show it to you when
the show's over. To be honest, with you, because then
you go home to your wife. Okay, I don't know
if I want to see your reaction. Okay, di Angelo
Titi Ali took Mason Graham and almost threw him right
to the north stands. It was amazing, and that's exactly
what I've been waiting for to see that the defensive

(22:38):
line was okay, right. I mean, you know, Michigan still
had their runs, but the key for this thing for
me was the way the offensive line played. I mean,
you're giving Will Rogers enough time to put up numbers
against Michigan's defense that they.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Just don't see.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Two hundred and seventy one yards passing by him, three
point fifteen total through the air, and team on the
ground four hundred and thirty yards the most allowed by
them in over a year and a half. That doesn't happen,
Dick quickly, because we get at the detector fiction unless
the offensive line shows no.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
That's exactly right, and the only reason I had faith.
There were two reasons I had faith that the offensive
line was not going to be a disaster going into
the season, and one is the fact that I trust
Jedfish's ability to get talent and identify talent and to
the w on the side of the helmet. Washington football
does not get crappy offensive linemen.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
They have never gotten crappy offensive lineman.

Speaker 6 (23:33):
If you are being recruited at the University of Washington
or you are transferring into the University of Washington, there
is only a certain echelon of player that can come.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Where's that to go? Glad you're with us.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
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Speaker 4 (24:11):
FM, Jackson. You know what happened.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
I showed Dick the video of di'angelo Titi alismacka Mason Grant,
and he fell over the equipment and knocked us off
the year.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
I knew I should have waited until the show is over.
Damn it all right? Factor Fiction a little bit late.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
We apologize for that, but the pick is gonna be
the Oregon Ducks.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yes, sir, we're riding the Oregon Ducks.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Both Dick and I believe the Big Ten, especially the
Midwest teams and the far East coast teams, really are
gonna have a problem when they come out to the
West Coast and play.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
These later games that travel.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Remember mil Tucker a couple of years ago was acting
like Michigan State was going to Mars. For God's sakes,
the Spartans looked terrible against the Ducks and Eugene and
they actually look pretty good Friday and kind of shut
things down there in the late third, early fourth quarter.
I think Ohio State they might win, but I think
Oregon's gonna cover the three and a half give me
the Ducks plus the points against the Buckeyes on Saturday.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
That's funny, you know how the narrative for so long
was how are these West Coast teams gonna go to
the Big Ten country. Nobody talked about how hard it
was going to be for Midwest teams to come west,
And we have seen already, and not just in the
Pac twelve. How about Miami. Yeah, they came back and won.
Miami was down four touchdowns at Cal right because they

(25:21):
weren't ready for the football game.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
So yes, I am with you. Oregon Ducks plus the
points all the way.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
What time is this game? By the way, four thirty
seven thirty East Coast?

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (25:30):
It's a four thirty game because I'm watching that. I'm
watching that Dick California Miami game and it's eleven o'clock
on the fourth quarter, and I'm texting Lee Sterling like
are you up? It's two o'clock in Miami now and
he's watching that game at two o'clock in the morning. So, yeah,
seven thirty is not terrible for Ohio State. But we're
gonna take Oregon and the points and if they lose,

(25:52):
we can make fun of him and at least get.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
A lost by Oregon.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
It's a win win situation.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Give us the Ducks plus the three and a half
against Ohio State. You agree it's fact, you disagree, it's fiction.
To four nine, four to five one. I'll brought to
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Speaker 1 (26:13):
It's now time for Sufday.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
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Speaker 3 (26:23):
All right, boys and girls back here at the Emerald
Queen Casino, hanging out in the sports book until five
fifteen tonight. We got Chiefs, We got Saints coming up
at five point fifteen. We got some more time, I
believe Jackson for the Factor fiction picks to come into
four nine, four five one. We like Oregon and the
points against Ohio State coming up this weekend at autsin Stadium.

(26:46):
We'll hear from Mike McDonald and Jetfish coming up at
four right now, they're a little fun with audio slash.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick, did you happen
to hear that?

Speaker 6 (26:54):
Well?

Speaker 4 (26:55):
What's that? Dick?

Speaker 3 (26:56):
We start with our friend Bill Belichick, friend of the
Husky program this year.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
It was there at the game on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Joining the Pat McAfee show today while wearing a UUB
sweatshirt and talked about his first game experience at Husky
Stadium during Saturday's win.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, that was a big one.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
What an environment.

Speaker 7 (27:14):
First time I've ever been out there in the University
of Washington sale for the game, and.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Uh, you know right there on the lake.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
The crowd was incredible.

Speaker 7 (27:23):
What a what a great, great environment for a college
football game and a big, big win for the Huskies.

Speaker 8 (27:28):
What's that what's the mountain over there? What's that mountain
that's right in the back of the right here, dude?
The views over there in Seattle, I did not know
to your point. That was my first time over there
last year when we did game day. The stadium sits
on the top of this perk and the views are insane.
A beautiful place I did not expect.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, it really is. It's and the fans are into it.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
It was a, you know, Michigan Washington kind of the
rematch game, even though not too many neither team had
a whole lot of their players from last year, but
it was still a heck of a game. Pennix was there,
and you know, it was Uh, it was great.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
It was a great environment. That little promotion for you, Doug,
why not can't hurt.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
I mean, I don't know how many recruits still get
out of Bill Belichick going on TV, but it's more
than zero.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
It's interesting what I noticed watching the game back this
morning on TV. The Belichick brand really means something they
showed more shots on NBC right of Belichick. Oh yeah,
the defensive coordinator than they did at the head coat, no.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Question, at thousand percent.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
I mean that's I'm certain that's a part of the
reason why Jed Fish hired the guy. Ye honestly, because
he knows what comes along with that, and he's doing
a pretty nice job, just doing a great job.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
They're sixth in the country and yards per play an
eighth and total defense right now.

Speaker 9 (28:49):
Now.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
I do believe that some of that is a much
softer offensive schedule than what we're used to. Sure, but
it is what it is. I mean, who gives a dance,
this is what you're gonna play it. It's only two teams.
I think there's only two teams in the Big ten
that are ranked higher nationally in defense, and that's Ohio State,
I mean in Penn State and there in the top ten.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
You think we're gonna get a bunch of weapons on
the outside when we go.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
To Iowa this week from them, Yeah, I mean you're
gonna get a tight end because I always had a.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Tight well you know who their quarterback is, right at McNamara. Yeah,
remember the first time we saw him. Yeah, he threw
for forty four yards three years ago, and they beat
us thirty one to ten because they ran the ball
three hundred yards right down our freaking throat. And they're
doing the same damn thing. They got a running back
named Caleb Johnson that's already reached last year's total with
like seven games left to go.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?

Speaker 3 (29:39):
For Vanderbilt ups at Alabama on Saturday in Nashville, the
jumbo tron at Vanderbilt Stadium played a clip from the
McAfee Show on September twentieth, where the Tides former head
coach Nick Saban joined and said this about playing at Vanderbilt.

Speaker 10 (29:54):
The only place you play in the SEC that's not
hard to play is Vanderbilt. Vailt You have more fans
there than they have. And that's no disrespect to them,
it's not. It's just the truth. When we played in Nashville,
we had more fans Alabama fans than what they had
Vanderbilt fans.

Speaker 8 (30:10):
Hey, Nashal's a great city to go visit too.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
You know.

Speaker 8 (30:12):
It's like in Vegas in the Midwest, if there's an
away game, it's certainly a good place to kind of
go take a weekend trip to. We'll go watch Alabama
do their thing to a football team. We'll get great
seats because there's gonna be a lot available, and then
we'll do Nashville too.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
Want to win. I didn't even think about that, So
he's not wrong.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
I love it when people just throw shade at something
or someone and then says, don't no disrespect.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Though, it's like, well, I mean, he's not wrong though,
right Like, historically Vanderbilt has been the easiest place to
play in the SEC. I mean, I don't know, maybe
when Kentucky's really awful or whatever. But it's just crazy
to me how the one time where Alabama goes to
Vanderbilt and loses happens to be two weeks after the
former head coach said that. I mean, the time he

(30:56):
could not have been better for Vanderbilt's marketing staff to
use that clip. They probably grabbed that clip and said,
all right, maybe in five years we can use it
or whatever, not two weeks later.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
I mean, are you kidding me? Bors be like, dude, really,
come on, man.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
What are they saying on what are they saying on
our guys show?

Speaker 3 (31:14):
And I know what they're saying. They're killing him, perhaps
killing him down there. They're killing him.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
But he knows that. I mean, he knew what he
was getting in signed up for.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
He wanted it, and he got it, and a lot
of Husky fans were very happy about it, by the way,
a lot of Husky fans.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?

Speaker 5 (31:29):
What's that?

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Dick? Let's go to number three.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
After his Crimson Tide got upset on Saturday, former Alabama
running back Damien Harris joined the Until Saturday podcast Tell
Like Till Tuesday of the band Uh and rip Bama
defensive back Malachai Moore for his behavior near the end
of the game and ripped head coach Kaitlin.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
De Borto number thirteen.

Speaker 9 (31:54):
Malachai More. Now, brother, I don't know you, but I'm
not trying to disrespect you. But what you did last
time that football field was complete and utter boy. You
are a two time captist, somebody who has your hand
in footprint at any chimes. I can tell y'all what
would have happened in the days that I was there.
We would have tried to rip the c off off

(32:14):
of his jersey. We would have lit him up. But
I'm gonna tell y'all exactly why he feels like he
can't act like that is you go and you look
at what Calen Debor said in his postgame press conference
about Malachai Moore. Oh, well, you know, he's one of
our guys, and he's one of our leaders, and yeah,
we expect him to use this and only bring positivity
for the rest of the sea. What supid that Nick

(32:36):
Sable would have said that. No, that's book that don't
help you win games. That does not help you control
the talent and the level of guys that you've never
coached before, Guys that you've never had experience with at
a program that you don't have. You don't know what
it takes to win these kind of games, and you
just come in here trying to be everybody's buddy. Buddy,

(32:57):
you try to be everybody's friend. Well, what does that
get you? That gets you beat against bandy on the rope?

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Oh boy, here we go. So Jackson, did you see
what he did Malachi Moore?

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, what did you think.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Didn't you take you guys head and like slam it
into the ground.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
What I'm watching is when Vanderbilt has the ball, he's
all pissed off.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
He's throwing stuff right right that.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, he had a personal foul where he like really
hurt a guy.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
Okay, all right, I just saw the tantrum.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
So I didn't see that part.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
I mean, yeah, I mean, if that's the case, then
he probably should sit him down and rip him a
new one.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Here's the problem.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Alabama expects to win, and they expect to win a
certain way, and when they lose, they expect the head
coach to say certain things, and when that doesn't happen,
they get mad.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
They get very very mad.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
I think they bounce back, though.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
Yeah, I think they're gonna I still think they're one
of the two or three best teams in the country,
and I would be I'd be surprised if they were
not at least playing in the final four, if not
the national chain.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Well, they've got South Carolina at home this weekend, and
then they go to number eight Tennessee. Then they got
number twenty one Missouri, Then they have number thirteen LSU,
Then they have their annual buy in the middle of
the year against Mercer. Then they play number eight in
Oklahoma at Oklahoma. Correct, So four of the next seven
games are against top twenty teams. And by the way,

(34:18):
speaking of Missouri, Rick new Heisel's o win seven.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
By the way in the year.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
Oo, gimme right now, give me Alabama at Tennessee right now, gotcha.
I don't even I don't even care what the spread is.
Gimme Alabama at Tennessee. We have seen top ten ranked
Tennessee teams who play nobody between you know, September and
the end of October, and then they get absolutely hammered
in the middle.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Jacks, we get time for one more five, five, one more? Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that?

Speaker 4 (34:43):
That's that Dick? All right? Twenty nine years ago today
Edgar Martinez did this.

Speaker 7 (34:51):
And John Wetland one more times seven Here comes the
two two pitch to Edgar Martinez.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Now in the fastball swung on.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Let the deep tenner fail, Bernie win.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
He goes back and it is get out the right
bread and the bustard. At this time, Grandma green Salam
had the murders.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
Later at ten Sex. I don't believe it.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Bye, oh Jackson, you're he old again.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
I'm thirty two.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
Okay, see you were three.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, remember about that day in zero See that pisses
me off. We're talking about stuff that is ancient history.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Now, did you.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
Go straight from the Husky game to the Mariners game
that night?

Speaker 4 (35:34):
I remember?

Speaker 5 (35:35):
You don't remember it was the day of the Notre
Dame game.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Notre Dame probably, I mean, I honestly, I don't remember
what I was doing that day.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
I may have watched the game somewhere else. Were you
at the Mariga game?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (35:46):
I was at the Mariner game. I was in every
Mariner game for sure. I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
I had to bear it the Husky game because it
was ninety five and I was already working here.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yeah, you had been.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
I I just think that that is turning into now.
People are now almost like getting annoyed.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
With that stuff.

Speaker 8 (36:02):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
I think people got annoyed with ninety five stuff ten
years ago.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
And it'd be great if they had all these awesome moments,
like two World Series titles since then, and we can
go back and just really embrace all that and hey,
this was awesome.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Let me to the kids.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Let me tell you, but people get pissed off now
when you bring it up.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
They do.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Oh, they get angry on social media when you bring
up the ninety five Mariners.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
I don't blame them, It's not their fault.

Speaker 6 (36:24):
A great postseason. I mean, what great postseason memories do
we have? I mean we got the Carloski in double
bunt since then, like, what what other great moments do
we have?

Speaker 3 (36:35):
So the individual moment since then, Carloski's bun against the
Indians in Game three, right, and two thousand and one,
two thousand, two thousand thousand, Edgar's home run against the
Indians out there, Yeah, the bloop, the blue bloop by
Toronto by Fraser, and then cal Rally's homer to Clay
the post season.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
All the JP bloop and then the Adam Fraser.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
We got three nothing nothing. All right, we're gonna break Jetfish.
Mike McDonald here from both of them next on ninety
three three KJRFL

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