October 7, 2025 • 39 mins
Chuck Powell joins Softy and Dick from Detroit to give us an update on the weather-related gametime and the lineup today. He gives us the vibes from Comerica. Larry Stone joins the guys to give his thoughts on what the Mariners are dealing with on the road, plus, the historic implications with everything we've witnessed this season. Bill Kreuger joins the guys to give us some perspective on what a rain delay means to a baseball team as they prepare for first pitch.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
All right, so we're waiting for Game three of the
Alds Tigers Mariners to begin ring delay.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
If you haven't heard, we were told about.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
An hour ago that the next update will come at
three o'clock. Well three o'clock was two and a half
minutes ago, so we could find out any time what
game Game three will begin, if at all in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
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Speaker 4 (00:46):
The Jags, with a late touchdown drive, beat the Chiefs
on Monday Night Football thirty one to twenty eight. The
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Speaker 3 (01:50):
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Speaker 7 (01:52):
My then?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Girls, Here we go on a busy Tuesday afternoon. Man,
the weather here above Elliot Bay is phenomenal. I don't
know what the hell's wrong with thoseos in Michigan. Get
a roof, you freaks. For God's sakes, it's twenty twenty five. Well,
we got some breaking news I think.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
All right, Well, I.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Just say at this point, by the way, no news
is good news. No news is good news because the
news could be we're gonna call it. I think they'd
wait a long time to do something like that. But
we're gonna have some type of news to report here,
and the news may be I don't know. We'll find
out our buddy Chuck Powell, who's on the scene. We
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spent the hundreds of thousands of dollars to fly Bucky
and Chuck privately to Detroit and put them up at
a five star hotel, wining them, dining them, to have
them do nothing but sit around and apparently drink crappy
coffee waiting for a baseball game to start. Chuck Powell
joins us right now live from Kamerica Park.
Speaker 8 (02:49):
How are you man, Hold on a second, Hey, you're
getting too cute close to the cuticles.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
Be careful.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, get that manicure yee.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
I had to sit at a little downtime, so I
decided to get more pampered on the company dime. So anyway,
you guys want to talk baseball or something.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well, we just want to know what the hell is
going on. I mean, fill us in. Everyone's texting asking
emailing where's the game going to start? Like, we know,
but we're not telling anybody. So what are they telling
you guys out there? What's the weather look like right now?
Speaker 7 (03:22):
Well, I'll say this.
Speaker 8 (03:23):
I went and did some investigating, and at two minutes
before the hour, I was told we would get an
announcement at the top of the hour, so then I
had come join you. So we're supposed to they're supposed
to pass along all the information any second. Maybe it's
already happened. I think the idea is that they don't
want to risk an interruption. I think even the Mariners
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don't want Logan Gilbert to start and then stop. I
think both teams want to just let this thing blow out,
which is supposed to.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
We're not supposed to get.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
Rain again in Detroit for like another month after this
storm passes through, so let it pass through and then
we can play uninterrupted and decide game number three.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
So I mean, even if they made.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
The decision like we feel good whether it's gone, let's
pull off the tarp, you're still looking at forty five
minutes before they can get pictures ready, and then we
probably have some ceremonies here because it's the first game
in Detroit in the series, so we're probably another good
hour away from getting started.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Chuck, I've got nightmares of that Baltimore, New York Philadelphia
road trip that it just seemed like every game was
delayed due to rain, and I think it partly affected
how this team played. Is this a bad thing for
Seattle that this is happening?
Speaker 8 (04:44):
Well, I said it this morning. This team, they are
so structured, they don't they can't handle delays. It's crazy.
I mean, they had a rain delay on that trip
that you mentioned, and it sent them into a spiral
for the next two weeks. Now, I mean, be just
coincidence that that happened, but I've always felt like they
don't do well during rain delays, Yeah, whether at the
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beginning of the game or in the middle of the game.
So I don't like it, but my goodness, I mean,
it's postseason baseball. You've got to focus through it. If
you're not just completely focused right now. And like I said,
if this was Logan's starting and then he had a
long delay and maybe he's not as effective when he
comes back, or god forbid, they take him out after
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two and a third innings because he stiffens up. I'd
be more worried about that the fact that they're kind
of letting the storm pass through. I think he'll be fine.
I think cal holding his hand.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
Will make sure that he warms up the right way.
Speaker 8 (05:42):
And I'm just going to side on this not being
a reason why the Mariners could lose tonight.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, it would be a brutal way to go down
a game, no doubt. But I just looked this up
and I affirmed it at Baseball Reference dot Com that
days where there is a four hour delay or more
with Logan Gilbert on the mound when a teammate is
about to have a baby.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
The M's are undefeated this year, by the way, in
those wins, hey.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Don't purse my bubble, deack, don't purse my bubble.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So they do it. They do pretty good.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But why don't we get your thoughts because we got
some time here, And by the way, there's now reports
out that the game they're gonna aim to start this
thing at four thirty local times, So seven thirty your
time out there, Chuck in Detroit. So we'll wait for confirmation,
of course from the Mariners. But the way those first
two games went. I mean, just the drama on Saturday
and Sunday, the drama of Josh Naylor potentially not playing
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because his wife's having a baby.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
What do you make of the first eighteen.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Excuse me, I guess it'd be twenty innings right that
you saw from this series?
Speaker 8 (06:50):
Well, obviously very evenly fought. They scored the same amount
of runs, and they were very similar games.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
I mean, the decision to not pitch.
Speaker 8 (06:58):
Gabe Spire may have cost you Game one, and the
decision to pitch Game games Fire may have won you
Game two. I mean, who knows that that would require
some hindsight, but pretty evenly fought series obviously.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
To this point, I just don't think these two teams
are that evenly maxed.
Speaker 8 (07:15):
I think the Mariners are a better team, and now
that we're getting deeper, we're past Gooble, getting deeper into
the rotation. We have arguably our best guy going tonight.
They've got a good pitcher, but also one that I
feel far more vulnerable to certain things than what Logan is.
So I have a feeling the game one, where only
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two offensive guys were contributing, maybe that did have a
little bit to do with Russ and not saying why
pitching basically for more than a week, and so the
game number two, more guys were contributing to the effort.
It wasn't just the Cal and Julio show in game
number two. I haven't feeling it's gonna spand out.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
A little bit.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
I think we're gonna get a pretty decent offensive effort
of this team, maybe get not just hits outside the
heart of the order, but maybe some damage done at
the top from Randy and at the bottom, you know,
down canzone. I think might play a role in this
thing tonight. So I just think, now you know, both
teams got the first two out of the way, they
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split them. I want to avoid Trek Scooble, but I
think over games three and four, Cream's gonna rise to
the top, and on paper we're just a better baseball team.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I would agree with that.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I think if Logan's not good tonight, it's more the
delay than it is him being you know, pushed back
to a Game three starter. In retrospect, knowing what Kirby
did in Game number one, at this point, are you
okay that they flip flop Kirby and Gilbert.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
I'm okay with it.
Speaker 8 (08:47):
I guess I was never angry with it. But as
we discussed in the roundtable last Friday, I don't think
there was a bad decision that they could have made,
but I do believe they made the wrong decision.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
I still would have liked to have seeing.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
What Logan Gilbert could have done. He's not nearly as
susceptible to Carpenter is what Kirby has been this year.
So I still think they should have gone with Logan,
And maybe it doesn't change the outcome, but I would
feel probably just as good with Kirby going tonight in
game number three as I did back in Game number
one with him. So there's not a bad decision with
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this team's starting pitching depth. But yeah, I still wish
they would have thrown Logan in game number one. But
the idea was they just trusted Logan, I guess, on
the road more than what they did the previous two pitchers,
So you're gonna get him on the road here tonight.
I still wish that they would have pitched him in
game number one because he's dominant at home, even more
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so than the two guys they decided to left hit
all right.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Update by the way, Chuck, Officially they will shoot to
start at four o'clock local in Seattle. You have seven
o'clock your time, four o'clock hard time. So I just
have you on for a few more minutes and I'll
let you go and get comfort and find a nice
spot in the press Boxman, talk to me about Josh Naylor.
Glad to see that he's back, you know, with the team,
and look, I think we all get it. You know,
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the guy's wife is going to have his first child,
for God's sakes, and it's possible that he could make
the right move, but it could also suck for the
Mariners too that he's not there. Do you think he's
been distracted the last couple of nights by this, I
mean the air, notwithstanding obviously on Sunday, but the adbats
just don't look very Josh Naylor, Like, what's your take
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on that?
Speaker 8 (10:31):
He hasn't had a good at bat yet in this series?
And he also made a serious blunder that could have
cost us game number two. That was a routine play
for at least one out and maybe a double play
to get you out of the inning.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
So I don't think he's been.
Speaker 8 (10:46):
Josh Naylor Like now, I can't sit here and tell
you that it's because he was thinking about his pregnant
wife and worried that he wasn't there for her. But
he did not play well. I mean, he probably we
named him we brushed off the old hero and goat
in the Baseball's Best post game show after Games one
and two. He was my goat both games. So I
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think that that was not the Josh Naylor that we
all came for love and want to resign, that's for sure.
So maybe with this situation, even though they're very very
quiet about exactly what's going on, because of Josh's wishes,
he just doesn't want his personal life aired at all, right,
So the Mariners are respecting his wishes. So maybe good
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news happened today. Maybe they do know the result and
it's behind him and we'll get a little more focused
Josh Naylor. So I'm not gonna say I'm not going
to directly blame him and his poor play on this
and being a distraction, but he certainly played poor baseball
and we're just not used to seeing that from him.
He's been wonderful since he's become a Mariner.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
So you're saying it's possible that they already had the baby.
Is that what you're inimating? Totally? I guess I always
just thought.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
I just thought that they would either pull him off
in the bat and have him hit a plane or
wait until the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
But I mean, I guess you're right, maybe they did.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
I just would think that that would be public information
at this point. Ninety nine times out of one hundred
in this situation, we would know about it, right.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
Yeah, Well, I mean either if she had it, didn't
have it, or there's something wrong, And either way, guess
that Josh Naylor doesn't want anyone to know his personal information.
So he it's his instruction, as I understand it, to
the Mariners CR not to air anything about his personal life.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, and that totally jobs.
Speaker 8 (12:39):
He did not take the plane with the team, but
he's obviously in the lineup here tonight.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
That absolutely jives with his personality. There's no I'm not
surprised to hear that whatsoever that he would not want
any of that stuff out there. But Chuck pals with
us again live from Camerica. First pitch Game three, ALDS
is now going to be at four o'clock our time,
a clock out there in Detroit. And it's funny we've
talked about all this stuff going on off the field.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
How about the matchups tonight?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I mean we were nervous going into game one, chuck
about George Kirby versus guys like Kerry Carpenter. Now you've
got Riley Green and Glabor Torrez to worry about, who
have had a lot of success off of Logan Gilbert.
You know, I saw John Smoltz was on TV about
an hour ago saying that he's worried that the humidity
and the rain, if it doesn't stop, could affect Logan
Gilbert's splitter. What's important for us to keep an eye
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on when it comes to Logan Gilbert versus that Tigers
lineup tonight.
Speaker 8 (13:35):
I didn't hear all of that for whatever is to
start breaking up, but I think I got enough of it,
that's all. I still think it's a good matchup. Well,
I think anytime Logan's on his game, it's a good matchup.
One thing that I think you've noticed in games numbers
one and two, this is the playoffs, all right? So
are these are the playoffs? And so there's not as
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much concern about pitch efficiency, not worried about not blowing
out the bullpen. I mean, we'll blow out the bullpen
if we have to. So what you saw out of
both George and Luis Castillo were two really good pitchers
who are gonna throw their best stuff and try to
avoid bats. I mean that's what you do in the postseason.
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You throw your swing and miss stuff and you try
to be as good as you can with it. You're
not gonna worry about getting through the fifth to make
sure you've got to win, or getting through the sixth
to save the bullpen.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
The bullpens are ready to go.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
He got eight guys down there that are ready to go,
and they just had a full day off yesterday.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
So I think Logan throwing his.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
A game to his best friend tonight, I think it
bodes well. Now, maybe he only goes five innings, maybe
maybe he gets the six, but I'll say this, the
bullpen's ready. And then I also think that if he's
going and he's at ninety five pitches after's five innings
or six innings.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
He'll go again.
Speaker 8 (15:02):
If he's dominant out on the mound, there's no concern
about well we've got to get through one hundred and
sixty two games. It's about winning this game tonight. So
even if he's at ninety five pitches through five innings
and if he's got a one hit shutout going with
nine strikeouts, he'll pitch the sixth chuck.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
As you mentioned accurately, they've scored the same amount of runs.
But I just feel like the Mariner at bats have
just looked better than the Tiger at bats. I mean,
are they really that hapless or is this a situation
where the Mariner staff has just been much better than
the Tiger offense.
Speaker 8 (15:40):
Yeah, the Tiger offense is, you know. I mean they've
been struggling as of late, and I mean they're clearly
not as deep as our guys, and I don't even
think that their best.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Guys are better than our guys.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
But for whatever reason, Kerry Carpenter loves hitting off Mariner
pitching and he's a monster against us, and Ridney Green's
the legit him at All Star. But they're also two
guys that and those are their two standouts, and they're vulnerable.
They have vulnerabilities to their game. They're both four against
left handed pitching. I mean a couple of them have
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been removed from playoff games in the middle of games
because the opponent countered with left handed relievers. And so
that's why I think Gabe's fire is going to be
maybe the key to this series, because if you throw
him first over Ferguson against these guys and you force
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aj Hensheeter to lat Green and Cartfinger face the guy
that probably is going to mow them down, or he
takes his two best hitters out of the lineup so
that he can put a ridy in there to face fire,
and then we don't have to deal with those guys
for the rest of the game. So I think that
they're very vulnerable. I don't think they're a potent offense whatsoever,
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but they have a dangerous element to them. And Carpenter
clearly hits us and our starters really well, with very
few hitters in Major League Baseball do. But I think
we can match up very well with them, and I
think Gabe Spier is going to end up playing maybe
the biggest role of anybody in this series. So that
sounds crazy from a lefty reliever specialist, I.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Love it, Chuck great stuff man, appreciate this. Stay safe
out there, stay dry, don't get food poisoning, don't get
busted by RoboCop while you're out there, and we'll talk soon. Well,
we'll probably talk after the game, all right, So we're
talk in a few hours.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
All right, we'll talk, all right.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
Go Mariner, you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Mariner's baby, Chuck foul with us from Camerica Park. Here's
what we're gonna do. First pitch is now four pm.
We have had to be very versatile today as creatures
of habit, which we don't like to do anything, but
you know, continue on the same path we've been on
for the last fifty years. We have to adjust. So
four o'clock today, Husky Hawks will join us. Greg Lewis,
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Mario Bailey, John Will will join us as well. At
five pm. Brian Schmetscher the whole thing. But we're going
to stay in pregame mode up until four o'clock. Gabe
Spyer gonna hear a little bit from him before tonight's game.
Larry Stone is going to hop on next segment and
give us all his wisdom and all his thoughts and
takes on what's about to happen in game three tonight.
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This is what do we call Softy in Dick's Hardball
pregame show and what this is show, you know what.
Don't blame me. I had nothing to do with it,
all right, we'll get to that next. Larry Stone's going
to join us with some thoughts on game three, which
is now officially a four pm first pitch on ninety
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Now with Softie and Dick, here's Larry Stone.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
All right, we wait, we wait, we wait.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
We at least know we have a time four o'clock,
our time seven o'clock in Detroit. Game three will commence.
That's the plan for now until the typhoon moves in
and wipes the whole thing off the face of the earth.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Then we have no idea how to do that and
have a double header.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Well, Larry Stone joining us now courtesy of the Ram.
Normally on Tuesdays at six, but flexible spreading his wings,
Baby showing his versatility by appearing in a little pregame
form Larry, how are you man?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I'm doing great.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
I'm retired.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I have no life now, so.
Speaker 8 (19:33):
I bailable anytime you want me.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, you know you fit right in here, by the way,
just like us.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Well, let's talk about first of all today, does this benefit?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Does this hurt anybody?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
You think the way these lineups are set Flaarity versus Gilbert?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Does this rain delay?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
The game was supposed to start what at one o'clock,
so we're talking a three hour away.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Does that benefit or hurt anybody in your mind?
Speaker 5 (19:57):
I don't think so, as long as the pictures didn't
get hot and then have to shut down, which I
don't think that they did.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
You know, it does depend on how, you know, mentally
they handle this, and it's hard to know, but I
think it's going to be a moot point and it'll
just beat the game that we were expecting. But three
hours later, well.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I heard something from manager I've never heard from before,
and that is the ninth the impact of the nineteenth
at bat. That is what aj Hitch said today about
moving Kerry Carpenter the one to the lead off role.
I mean, we have gotten such analytically in baseball that
we're talking about the nineteenth at bat, Larry, is it
really going to mean that much?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Well, I also got a chuckle dick when Dan Wilson
someone must have asked him about the chess match with.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Hinshin.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
He said, well, I don't know how to play chess,
so I can't comment on the chess. I think there's
people that might take that run that Dan maybe not
be equipped for a chess match with with aj Hinch.
But yeah, that that seems a little a little too
in the weeds there. But I mean Hinch's whole thing
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is on working the matchups, working the you know, he
does a lot of platoons and pinch hitting and works
the bullpen to get the favorable matchups left right, and
he's really good at it. So, I mean, and it
came into play on both games battle.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, Well, Dan Wilson got ridiculed a little bit, whether
fair unfair for letting George Kirby pitch to carry Carpenter
on Saturday. I'm wondering kind of what was your reaction
in the moment on Saturday, and if there was a
mistake made by Dan, do you think that'll be a
lesson he can maybe lean on as early as tonight.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Well, I think he learned leaned on it as early
as Sunday, because yes, in my mind it was a mistake.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
I thought so at the time.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
You know, there's been a lot of public about the
fact that Carpenter owned George Kirby with four home runs
and the third time through the lineup with a base open,
either walk them or bring in Gabe Spire bringing Inspire.
You know, I thought at the time would have been
the move, and he didn't, and he hit the home run.
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And then the next day in the virtually the exact
same situation presented itself, and this time he did bring
Inspire to face Carpenter. He struck him out very swiftly,
and you know, that was a key moment in the game.
So hopefully he learned a lesson, although I think I
don't know why the lesson was there to be learned.
I'm sure that's the situation they talked about before the game,
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so you know, it should have been something that was
handled before they even got to the got to that situation.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
But it wasn't well, Larry st Larry Stone joining us.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I was first guessing, not second guessing Carlos Vargas, and
I guess when you pitch Bizarto three total pitches in
a game and then take him out, that's going to
put you a little short in the back end, especially
when you go to extra innings. What did you think
of Vargas versus going ahead and going Emerson Hancock and
playing a little more of the long game and extra
innings on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Yeah, I mean, when you get to eleven, eleventh inning,
you're gonna you're gonna have to go deep into your book.
And I agree with you, Bazzardo probably could have been
stretched one more inning, and then you know that pushes
it back even more. But uh, you know, uh, I
I don't know about I think it's a wash. The
choice between Vargas and Emerson Hancock. You're probably gonna have
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to get to Hancock the next inning it if it
went to twelve. Anyway, Vargas has great stuff, but he
could be erratic, and that that that leadoff walk, you
almost knew that that was gonna come back and haunt him,
and it did.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, Well, we had a lot of guys putting leadoff
runners on on on Sunday, and and thank god they
didn't come back to bite him in the ass with
an owl. But I'll tell you what almost came back
to bite him in the ass, hilarry. Was that error
by Josh Naylor in the eighth inning. Man, I was
ready to rip his head off, man. And not not
that I would actually do that because I be scared,
but I was as hot as I've been at a
Mariner baseball player in a long damn time. And we've
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been speculating, and all we can do is speculate. Bec
is nobody knows for sure. But man, when you see
a guy at the plate doing some uncharacteristic stuff and
you see an air like that in the eighth inning,
and then you're it's all, well, his wife's about to
have a baby. You're like, Okay, I kind of get
it right. He's a human being. He's got to have
his mind elsewhere a little bit. How much of that
do you think played into the way he's played so far?
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Well, I saw the picture, Dave of you in the
stands with the glare, and somebody posted on Twitter of
the of the moment of the Naylor.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
Yeah, Naylor, and you did look like you were ready
to kill.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
That was me. That was me when I found out
they ran out of Calicorn. By the way, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Had nothing to do with here, Okay, I mean it
would be human nature to be distracted. Uh, you know,
I had three kids. I was distracted the lead up
to all three of them.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
So U.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
It's funny. Naylor was the darling of the Mirror fans all,
you know, the whole two months that they had him,
and then all of a sudden, everyone was furious at him,
uh after that error. But it's kind of uh, they're
being very cryptic about what's going on. He left for
personal reasons. He's back, but no one's saying whether she
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had the baby or not. So it's it's kind of
mysterious until he I guess they're just keeping it private
and letting him tell as much as he wants to tell.
But if she did have the baby, uh, he would
maybe he'll uh he'll relax now and uh and and
start producing because he's he's over eight with with a
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huge air so far, so they need him to beat
Josh Naylor again.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Well, on the downside of being very cryptic and being
super personal. If you're Josh Naylor, not letting anything out
is you're just opening up the door for massive speculation
from everybody. And if and if indeed the baby has
been born, it might be better off for everybody just
to get it out there and we can move past.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
This, or if it hasn't been born yet that he's
got a natural built of excuse right.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
That's right, right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I don't think he's helping himself to be perfectly honest
with you, Larry, keeping this whole thing a secret.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Yeah, but you know who knows what's going on behind
the scenes. I will give him his space on this.
It's an intensely personal thing.
Speaker 8 (26:30):
You know, who knows.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
What's going on. That could be extenuating.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Circumstances that are leading to this. So yeah, I guess
we'll find out after the game, because he'll he didn't
there was no media availability before the game, but there
will be after, so you know, that question will be asked.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
We'll see if it's answered. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I think I think we'd all feel terrible if we
ridiculed him and then found out there was a complication, right,
like something like that went on. So I Larry, I'm
kind of with you on that. But go back to
July eleventh, twelfth, and thirteenth. That's the last time, Larry,
the Mariners played at k America Park and they put
up thirty five runs in three games. Can we take
anything from that series in July? Or is that just
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now water away under the bridge?
Speaker 5 (27:16):
A little water under the bridge. But I think mentally
it probably gives them a little foundation of, you know,
something to take into to take into the game. And
you know, I don't I don't remember what the lineup
was then. They didn't have Nayler or Sworez by then.
But that was kind of a.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Season saving series.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
It was immediately following the Yankee sweep, right and they
were they were floundering and leading into the All Star break,
and that was a huge thing. And I mean, it
just tells them that they could they could beat the
Tigers on the road, and they could get in America Park.
So I think both of good things.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Mentally, you think energy will be lacking in the building
a little bit tonight because of the rain delay, or
do you think that the fans will just be doublely
lickored up and it'll be even harder and.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Well, that's yeah, that's an interesting question. It is their
playoff home debut. They played the Wildcard series in Cleveland,
so you know how fired up everyone was in Seattle
for the first game. I think theoretically it should be
the same in Detroit. It's a great baseball town. They
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were in the playoffs last year, so it's not like
they've had a big weight like Mariner fans have since
twenty two and you know, only one appearance since one.
So but I don't think they're jaded there yet, and
I expect a pretty lively atmosphere. But I think the
three hour rain delay is sure to put a little
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bit of a tamper.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, well, home field's now gone. It belongs to the
Tigers in this series. Does that change your confidence at all?
I mean we're now tied and it's basically a three
game series with two games out of three out there.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
How do you feel now about this thing going?
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Still like the Mariner's position. Such a huge gutty win
over over Schooble on Sunday. You know, I think if
you'd gone to Detroit with a split the other way around,
you know, you win the opener, you lose to Schooble.
I think everyone would have said, well, that's kind of
the way we you know, that's a natural thing to
lose to the cy Young Award winner. They did it
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the other way around. You know, everyone said Game one
was was vital. You know, it's captain obvious here. But
game three, this one is even more vital. Right, you
don't want to go down to one and have I
guess Bryce Millard to pitch tomorrow to save your season
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the way he's been kind of inconsistent here. If you're
up to one, you know, Bryce Miller, that's that's fine
because you still have Game five at home with probably
George Kirby. Although you're facing Schooble a game, but you
beat school three times. So I still like the position.
I still think they have a slight edge. If they
win today, they take the home field advantage, and so
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that you know, they just have to win tonight.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I'm starting to have serious two thousand and one Game
five Indians vibes. By the way, from from that series
back in the day, that this thing could go exactly
the way that one went. The difference is Game four,
they came right home, played Game five the next day.
I know because I was late to Game five after
my flight got in. All right, Larry, you're the man,
great stuff, Enjoy the game, appreciate the flexibility, and we'll
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talk soon.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Manler.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
All right, guys, thanks you bet.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Larry Stone with us. All right, first pitch at four
from Detroit. We're gonna keep in pregame mode Husky Hanks,
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Speaker 6 (31:00):
kJ r FL.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
All right, here we go. We're getting ready for first
picks in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
We have a first pick start time four pm, about
fifteen minutes away.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I cannot think of a better guy to get.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Us ready with some final pregame analysis, final pregame messages,
final pregame speech. That our friend all courtesy of the
Occidental Hall, our buddy, Billy Krueger, Bill, how are you
man right?
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Good? You know, the the anticipation is killing us.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Literally killing us man lineups around of Rose Arena Raleig,
Julio Polanco, Naylor Suarez, Ken Zone, Robles Crawford. But I
learned a long time from you that the one thing
I should really focus on is the starting pitcher, especially
in the postseasons. So let's talk about this delay. Let's
talk about this lineup against Logan Gilbert tonight and the
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whole view from thirty five thousand feet go.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
Well, I think again is a pretty steady eddy. I
think that he's organized, and he knows how to carry himself.
He's been there and done that. I think he's pretty cool,
a pretty cool customer. So I don't think any of
this stuff's going to rattle him too much. I think
he's going to do his he get on his program.
They give you enough, fine, they don't give you, like, hey,
thirty seconds and you've got twenty minutes to start drawing.
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You know, you have a little bit more insight than
the rest of us idiots out here that don't know
when the game is going to start. So you know,
he'll be able to watch the other pictures warm up.
You know, he can kind of gauge himself that way,
so he'll be fine. He'll be fine. He'll have playing
time to warm up and he'll be he'll be ready
to go. And I like Gilbert in this game. I
think you already heard me. I like Gilbert in game one,
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but that's not the direction they went to. But now
here he is, and I think he's the toughest guy
in our staff to hit, so I'll expect him to
have a beg.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Jack flairt is eight and fifteen with a four point
six y nine ERA in his last thirty games, and
that's who Seattle's facing today. He was okay and his
four and two thirds innings pitch last week, but I
mean this.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Seems like a big advantage.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Do you want to come out extra aggressive, particularly after
the delay against this guy or do you see if
he's got location and try to, you know, be a
little bit more patient at the plate against this guy?
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Well, yes, he throws a lot of curveballs, and the
curveball is a real tough pis to land. So but
you know, the marriage and the Mariners, I mean, this
isn't a patient team. The patient the most patient hit
or hits nine. So and sometimes he loses patience because
he wishes he was the lead off there. So yeah,
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I mean JP, I would love to have JP lead enough,
but that's all cast in stone at this point, because
I'd like to have a guy up there that that
kind of makes this guy have a tough time getting
started in the game right and kind of works the
count and files a couple of balls off and makes
him throw everything at him. You know, I would love
to see that, but you know we're talking hypothetically not reality.
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You know, you like to see him get into a
fastball count. He doesn't throw real hard, He's got a
good curve ball. He's been around the block. He can pitch.
It's still the updown game. You know, don't chase the
ball above your hands and you know, try to get
a ball you can handle. He's knocking to overpower you,
so uh, you know, I think the Mariners can do.
And they're away from home, so that these green light
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on hitting like those on so and you kind of
expect some guys. I mean that, really this series has
been carried by two guys and then a great cameo
by Polonco. That means that everybody else hasn't hit. That
means that some of these guys are going to hit
just that's just human nature, right, So I kind of
see the weight of the world coming off Naylor's shoulders,
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and I think he could have a big game and
play play up to his potential again. And and these
other guys, especially in that top six, and you got
canzone down here. He's sneaky. I thought he was way
impatient in the game he played the first game. He's
swinging at the first pitch they're throwing them, pick the
ball and change up, so he's fillyling and everything he
needs to really and go up there and get a
good ball to hit. Yeah, I think our offense is
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going to come on and Gilbert's going to be tough
to hit. The real question for Gilbert is he exhausts
himself trying to strike everybody out and he starts to
get weary in the fifth inning. Hopefully he can get
a few easy outs just by just by accident. Hopefully
he gets some easy out so he doesn't have to
strike everybody out and he can carry the game a
little bit further.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Well, Polanco, cal and Julio have twenty two total bases
combined the first two games. The rest of the team's
got three in the first two games. Of this series.
But you know, I'll ask you the same question I
asked Larry Stone Bill when he was on with us
last segment before you and Bill Krueger a game with us.
We're just minutes away from first pitch four o'clock today
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from Detroit in game three of the AODS that the
last time the Mariners were at Camerica, the weather was
a bit different, it was mid July and they scored
thirty five runs. Does that series resonate mean anything at all?
Or is that just history at this point?
Speaker 6 (36:01):
I think it's history. You know, these speaks come and go.
You catch a team that you not their starting pitcher
out and then you get a little bit of cannon
fodder in the game, and then the game gets out
of reach.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
Right.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
But this this this Tiger team from a standpoint of pitching.
They got one giant, tough guy to hit that we've
already faced and we may face him again, who knows.
But the rest of their staff isn't like big stuff,
so uh, none of them and so uh thirty is
not going to be overpowering. Mice is not going to
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be overpowering. They don't have a real scary bullpen. They
got some guys that can pitch a little bit. That
Holton kid could pitch. I think he's tough, But yeah,
the Marriers could score runs, and I hope so I'd
like to see Jilbert carry the game a little bit further.
I'd like to see the Mariners so confident in the
starting pitcher and not get into a chess match with
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eight D Hinch. Let let Logan pitch.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
A little bit.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Let's score some runs. Let's have it's a confidence in
our offense. Does not get to one to one and
it's given up one hit. One guy's on base and
you have to take him out because Carpenter's coming to
the plate like he's ruth. I mean what, Gilbert, he's
got better stuff than any of those guys. Think we
got our bullpen? He does, so I hope he gets
to pitch a little bit more. I understand the gravity
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of the situation. I understand all that. It's it's everything
hinges on one play, one pitch, and you know it.
I get it. But this is what I hope to
see a few runs score. Gilbert carries the game a
little bit further and it becomes more of a Mariner
style of game, where the starting pitchers, is at least
the co star of the game, along with the offense.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Bill the rain delaid. Does it hurt the Mariners? That
certainly hurt him in that road trip a couple of
months ago.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Does that matter at all?
Speaker 6 (37:51):
I think that they have so much adrenaline now that
I can't see how any of that's going to affect him. Yeah,
I really don't. I think that the guys are amp
to play. It's a big moment. They're they're gonna be fine.
They're gonna come out ready to go.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Bill Krueger, great stuff. Enjoy the game, and just do
us a favor.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Uh, don't don't turn your ringer off, all right, because
you never know we might call you at midnight.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Tonight to jump on the radio station with us.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
All right, buddy, I know who knows when this game
is gonna end, but fellows, it's gonna be high theater,
and I like the club man. I think they're gonna
win the series and win tonight.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
I love it.
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
All right, so we're waiting for Game three of the
Alds Tigers Mariners to begin ring delay.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
If you haven't heard, we were told about.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
An hour ago that the next update will come at
three o'clock. Well three o'clock was two and a half
minutes ago, so we could find out any time what
game Game three will begin, if at all in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
All right, follow all that.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
The Jags, with a late touchdown drive, beat the Chiefs
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Speaker 2 (00:54):
Last night, the Dodger is taking a two to nothing
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Speaker 3 (01:08):
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Speaker 4 (01:08):
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Speaker 2 (01:26):
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Speaker 5 (01:35):
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Speaker 3 (01:45):
By forty one yards from an Ilia day.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Can you feel it? Now?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
This is softy ANDed all right?
Speaker 7 (01:52):
My then?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Girls, Here we go on a busy Tuesday afternoon. Man,
the weather here above Elliot Bay is phenomenal. I don't
know what the hell's wrong with thoseos in Michigan. Get
a roof, you freaks. For God's sakes, it's twenty twenty five. Well,
we got some breaking news I think.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
All right, Well, I.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Just say at this point, by the way, no news
is good news. No news is good news because the
news could be we're gonna call it. I think they'd
wait a long time to do something like that. But
we're gonna have some type of news to report here,
and the news may be I don't know. We'll find
out our buddy Chuck Powell, who's on the scene. We
(02:30):
spent the hundreds of thousands of dollars to fly Bucky
and Chuck privately to Detroit and put them up at
a five star hotel, wining them, dining them, to have
them do nothing but sit around and apparently drink crappy
coffee waiting for a baseball game to start. Chuck Powell
joins us right now live from Kamerica Park.
Speaker 8 (02:49):
How are you man, Hold on a second, Hey, you're
getting too cute close to the cuticles.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
Be careful.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, get that manicure yee.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
I had to sit at a little downtime, so I
decided to get more pampered on the company dime. So anyway,
you guys want to talk baseball or something.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well, we just want to know what the hell is
going on. I mean, fill us in. Everyone's texting asking
emailing where's the game going to start? Like, we know,
but we're not telling anybody. So what are they telling
you guys out there? What's the weather look like right now?
Speaker 7 (03:22):
Well, I'll say this.
Speaker 8 (03:23):
I went and did some investigating, and at two minutes
before the hour, I was told we would get an
announcement at the top of the hour, so then I
had come join you. So we're supposed to they're supposed
to pass along all the information any second. Maybe it's
already happened. I think the idea is that they don't
want to risk an interruption. I think even the Mariners
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don't want Logan Gilbert to start and then stop. I
think both teams want to just let this thing blow out,
which is supposed to.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
We're not supposed to get.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
Rain again in Detroit for like another month after this
storm passes through, so let it pass through and then
we can play uninterrupted and decide game number three.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
So I mean, even if they made.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
The decision like we feel good whether it's gone, let's
pull off the tarp, you're still looking at forty five
minutes before they can get pictures ready, and then we
probably have some ceremonies here because it's the first game
in Detroit in the series, so we're probably another good
hour away from getting started.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Chuck, I've got nightmares of that Baltimore, New York Philadelphia
road trip that it just seemed like every game was
delayed due to rain, and I think it partly affected
how this team played. Is this a bad thing for
Seattle that this is happening?
Speaker 8 (04:44):
Well, I said it this morning. This team, they are
so structured, they don't they can't handle delays. It's crazy.
I mean, they had a rain delay on that trip
that you mentioned, and it sent them into a spiral
for the next two weeks. Now, I mean, be just
coincidence that that happened, but I've always felt like they
don't do well during rain delays, Yeah, whether at the
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beginning of the game or in the middle of the game.
So I don't like it, but my goodness, I mean,
it's postseason baseball. You've got to focus through it. If
you're not just completely focused right now. And like I said,
if this was Logan's starting and then he had a
long delay and maybe he's not as effective when he
comes back, or god forbid, they take him out after
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two and a third innings because he stiffens up. I'd
be more worried about that the fact that they're kind
of letting the storm pass through. I think he'll be fine.
I think cal holding his hand.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
Will make sure that he warms up the right way.
Speaker 8 (05:42):
And I'm just going to side on this not being
a reason why the Mariners could lose tonight.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, it would be a brutal way to go down
a game, no doubt. But I just looked this up
and I affirmed it at Baseball Reference dot Com that
days where there is a four hour delay or more
with Logan Gilbert on the mound when a teammate is
about to have a baby.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
The M's are undefeated this year, by the way, in
those wins, hey.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Don't purse my bubble, deack, don't purse my bubble.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So they do it. They do pretty good.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But why don't we get your thoughts because we got
some time here, And by the way, there's now reports
out that the game they're gonna aim to start this
thing at four thirty local times, So seven thirty your
time out there, Chuck in Detroit. So we'll wait for confirmation,
of course from the Mariners. But the way those first
two games went. I mean, just the drama on Saturday
and Sunday, the drama of Josh Naylor potentially not playing
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because his wife's having a baby.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
What do you make of the first eighteen.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Excuse me, I guess it'd be twenty innings right that
you saw from this series?
Speaker 8 (06:50):
Well, obviously very evenly fought. They scored the same amount
of runs, and they were very similar games.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
I mean, the decision to not pitch.
Speaker 8 (06:58):
Gabe Spire may have cost you Game one, and the
decision to pitch Game games Fire may have won you
Game two. I mean, who knows that that would require
some hindsight, but pretty evenly fought series obviously.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
To this point, I just don't think these two teams
are that evenly maxed.
Speaker 8 (07:15):
I think the Mariners are a better team, and now
that we're getting deeper, we're past Gooble, getting deeper into
the rotation. We have arguably our best guy going tonight.
They've got a good pitcher, but also one that I
feel far more vulnerable to certain things than what Logan is.
So I have a feeling the game one, where only
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two offensive guys were contributing, maybe that did have a
little bit to do with Russ and not saying why
pitching basically for more than a week, and so the
game number two, more guys were contributing to the effort.
It wasn't just the Cal and Julio show in game
number two. I haven't feeling it's gonna spand out.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
A little bit.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
I think we're gonna get a pretty decent offensive effort
of this team, maybe get not just hits outside the
heart of the order, but maybe some damage done at
the top from Randy and at the bottom, you know,
down canzone. I think might play a role in this
thing tonight. So I just think, now you know, both
teams got the first two out of the way, they
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split them. I want to avoid Trek Scooble, but I
think over games three and four, Cream's gonna rise to
the top, and on paper we're just a better baseball team.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I would agree with that.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I think if Logan's not good tonight, it's more the
delay than it is him being you know, pushed back
to a Game three starter. In retrospect, knowing what Kirby
did in Game number one, at this point, are you
okay that they flip flop Kirby and Gilbert.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
I'm okay with it.
Speaker 8 (08:47):
I guess I was never angry with it. But as
we discussed in the roundtable last Friday, I don't think
there was a bad decision that they could have made,
but I do believe they made the wrong decision.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
I still would have liked to have seeing.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
What Logan Gilbert could have done. He's not nearly as
susceptible to Carpenter is what Kirby has been this year.
So I still think they should have gone with Logan,
And maybe it doesn't change the outcome, but I would
feel probably just as good with Kirby going tonight in
game number three as I did back in Game number
one with him. So there's not a bad decision with
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this team's starting pitching depth. But yeah, I still wish
they would have thrown Logan in game number one. But
the idea was they just trusted Logan, I guess, on
the road more than what they did the previous two pitchers,
So you're gonna get him on the road here tonight.
I still wish that they would have pitched him in
game number one because he's dominant at home, even more
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so than the two guys they decided to left hit
all right.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Update by the way, Chuck, Officially they will shoot to
start at four o'clock local in Seattle. You have seven
o'clock your time, four o'clock hard time. So I just
have you on for a few more minutes and I'll
let you go and get comfort and find a nice
spot in the press Boxman, talk to me about Josh Naylor.
Glad to see that he's back, you know, with the team,
and look, I think we all get it. You know,
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the guy's wife is going to have his first child,
for God's sakes, and it's possible that he could make
the right move, but it could also suck for the
Mariners too that he's not there. Do you think he's
been distracted the last couple of nights by this, I
mean the air, notwithstanding obviously on Sunday, but the adbats
just don't look very Josh Naylor, Like, what's your take
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on that?
Speaker 8 (10:31):
He hasn't had a good at bat yet in this series?
And he also made a serious blunder that could have
cost us game number two. That was a routine play
for at least one out and maybe a double play
to get you out of the inning.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
So I don't think he's been.
Speaker 8 (10:46):
Josh Naylor Like now, I can't sit here and tell
you that it's because he was thinking about his pregnant
wife and worried that he wasn't there for her. But
he did not play well. I mean, he probably we
named him we brushed off the old hero and goat
in the Baseball's Best post game show after Games one
and two. He was my goat both games. So I
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think that that was not the Josh Naylor that we
all came for love and want to resign, that's for sure.
So maybe with this situation, even though they're very very
quiet about exactly what's going on, because of Josh's wishes,
he just doesn't want his personal life aired at all, right,
So the Mariners are respecting his wishes. So maybe good
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news happened today. Maybe they do know the result and
it's behind him and we'll get a little more focused
Josh Naylor. So I'm not gonna say I'm not going
to directly blame him and his poor play on this
and being a distraction, but he certainly played poor baseball
and we're just not used to seeing that from him.
He's been wonderful since he's become a Mariner.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
So you're saying it's possible that they already had the baby.
Is that what you're inimating? Totally? I guess I always
just thought.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
I just thought that they would either pull him off
in the bat and have him hit a plane or
wait until the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
But I mean, I guess you're right, maybe they did.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
I just would think that that would be public information
at this point. Ninety nine times out of one hundred
in this situation, we would know about it, right.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
Yeah, Well, I mean either if she had it, didn't
have it, or there's something wrong, And either way, guess
that Josh Naylor doesn't want anyone to know his personal information.
So he it's his instruction, as I understand it, to
the Mariners CR not to air anything about his personal life.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, and that totally jobs.
Speaker 8 (12:39):
He did not take the plane with the team, but
he's obviously in the lineup here tonight.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
That absolutely jives with his personality. There's no I'm not
surprised to hear that whatsoever that he would not want
any of that stuff out there. But Chuck pals with
us again live from Camerica. First pitch Game three, ALDS
is now going to be at four o'clock our time,
a clock out there in Detroit. And it's funny we've
talked about all this stuff going on off the field.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
How about the matchups tonight?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I mean we were nervous going into game one, chuck
about George Kirby versus guys like Kerry Carpenter. Now you've
got Riley Green and Glabor Torrez to worry about, who
have had a lot of success off of Logan Gilbert.
You know, I saw John Smoltz was on TV about
an hour ago saying that he's worried that the humidity
and the rain, if it doesn't stop, could affect Logan
Gilbert's splitter. What's important for us to keep an eye
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on when it comes to Logan Gilbert versus that Tigers
lineup tonight.
Speaker 8 (13:35):
I didn't hear all of that for whatever is to
start breaking up, but I think I got enough of it,
that's all. I still think it's a good matchup. Well,
I think anytime Logan's on his game, it's a good matchup.
One thing that I think you've noticed in games numbers
one and two, this is the playoffs, all right? So
are these are the playoffs? And so there's not as
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much concern about pitch efficiency, not worried about not blowing
out the bullpen. I mean, we'll blow out the bullpen
if we have to. So what you saw out of
both George and Luis Castillo were two really good pitchers
who are gonna throw their best stuff and try to
avoid bats. I mean that's what you do in the postseason.
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You throw your swing and miss stuff and you try
to be as good as you can with it. You're
not gonna worry about getting through the fifth to make
sure you've got to win, or getting through the sixth
to save the bullpen.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
The bullpens are ready to go.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
He got eight guys down there that are ready to go,
and they just had a full day off yesterday.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
So I think Logan throwing his.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
A game to his best friend tonight, I think it
bodes well. Now, maybe he only goes five innings, maybe
maybe he gets the six, but I'll say this, the
bullpen's ready. And then I also think that if he's
going and he's at ninety five pitches after's five innings
or six innings.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
He'll go again.
Speaker 8 (15:02):
If he's dominant out on the mound, there's no concern
about well we've got to get through one hundred and
sixty two games. It's about winning this game tonight. So
even if he's at ninety five pitches through five innings
and if he's got a one hit shutout going with
nine strikeouts, he'll pitch the sixth chuck.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
As you mentioned accurately, they've scored the same amount of runs.
But I just feel like the Mariner at bats have
just looked better than the Tiger at bats. I mean,
are they really that hapless or is this a situation
where the Mariner staff has just been much better than
the Tiger offense.
Speaker 8 (15:40):
Yeah, the Tiger offense is, you know. I mean they've
been struggling as of late, and I mean they're clearly
not as deep as our guys, and I don't even
think that their best.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Guys are better than our guys.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
But for whatever reason, Kerry Carpenter loves hitting off Mariner
pitching and he's a monster against us, and Ridney Green's
the legit him at All Star. But they're also two
guys that and those are their two standouts, and they're vulnerable.
They have vulnerabilities to their game. They're both four against
left handed pitching. I mean a couple of them have
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been removed from playoff games in the middle of games
because the opponent countered with left handed relievers. And so
that's why I think Gabe's fire is going to be
maybe the key to this series, because if you throw
him first over Ferguson against these guys and you force
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aj Hensheeter to lat Green and Cartfinger face the guy
that probably is going to mow them down, or he
takes his two best hitters out of the lineup so
that he can put a ridy in there to face fire,
and then we don't have to deal with those guys
for the rest of the game. So I think that
they're very vulnerable. I don't think they're a potent offense whatsoever,
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but they have a dangerous element to them. And Carpenter
clearly hits us and our starters really well, with very
few hitters in Major League Baseball do. But I think
we can match up very well with them, and I
think Gabe Spier is going to end up playing maybe
the biggest role of anybody in this series. So that
sounds crazy from a lefty reliever specialist, I.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Love it, Chuck great stuff man, appreciate this. Stay safe
out there, stay dry, don't get food poisoning, don't get
busted by RoboCop while you're out there, and we'll talk soon. Well,
we'll probably talk after the game, all right, So we're
talk in a few hours.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
All right, we'll talk, all right.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
Go Mariner, you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Mariner's baby, Chuck foul with us from Camerica Park. Here's
what we're gonna do. First pitch is now four pm.
We have had to be very versatile today as creatures
of habit, which we don't like to do anything, but
you know, continue on the same path we've been on
for the last fifty years. We have to adjust. So
four o'clock today, Husky Hawks will join us. Greg Lewis,
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Mario Bailey, John Will will join us as well. At
five pm. Brian Schmetscher the whole thing. But we're going
to stay in pregame mode up until four o'clock. Gabe
Spyer gonna hear a little bit from him before tonight's game.
Larry Stone is going to hop on next segment and
give us all his wisdom and all his thoughts and
takes on what's about to happen in game three tonight.
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This is what do we call Softy in Dick's Hardball
pregame show and what this is show, you know what.
Don't blame me. I had nothing to do with it,
all right, we'll get to that next. Larry Stone's going
to join us with some thoughts on game three, which
is now officially a four pm first pitch on ninety
three to three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
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Speaker 3 (18:56):
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Speaker 1 (18:58):
Now with Softie and Dick, here's Larry Stone.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
All right, we wait, we wait, we wait.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
We at least know we have a time four o'clock,
our time seven o'clock in Detroit. Game three will commence.
That's the plan for now until the typhoon moves in
and wipes the whole thing off the face of the earth.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Then we have no idea how to do that and
have a double header.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Well, Larry Stone joining us now courtesy of the Ram.
Normally on Tuesdays at six, but flexible spreading his wings,
Baby showing his versatility by appearing in a little pregame
form Larry, how are you man?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I'm doing great.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
I'm retired.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I have no life now, so.
Speaker 8 (19:33):
I bailable anytime you want me.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, you know you fit right in here, by the way,
just like us.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Well, let's talk about first of all today, does this benefit?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Does this hurt anybody?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
You think the way these lineups are set Flaarity versus Gilbert?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Does this rain delay?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
The game was supposed to start what at one o'clock,
so we're talking a three hour away.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Does that benefit or hurt anybody in your mind?
Speaker 5 (19:57):
I don't think so, as long as the pictures didn't
get hot and then have to shut down, which I
don't think that they did.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
You know, it does depend on how, you know, mentally
they handle this, and it's hard to know, but I
think it's going to be a moot point and it'll
just beat the game that we were expecting. But three
hours later, well.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I heard something from manager I've never heard from before,
and that is the ninth the impact of the nineteenth
at bat. That is what aj Hitch said today about
moving Kerry Carpenter the one to the lead off role.
I mean, we have gotten such analytically in baseball that
we're talking about the nineteenth at bat, Larry, is it
really going to mean that much?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Well, I also got a chuckle dick when Dan Wilson
someone must have asked him about the chess match with.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Hinshin.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
He said, well, I don't know how to play chess,
so I can't comment on the chess. I think there's
people that might take that run that Dan maybe not
be equipped for a chess match with with aj Hinch.
But yeah, that that seems a little a little too
in the weeds there. But I mean Hinch's whole thing
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is on working the matchups, working the you know, he
does a lot of platoons and pinch hitting and works
the bullpen to get the favorable matchups left right, and
he's really good at it. So, I mean, and it
came into play on both games battle.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, Well, Dan Wilson got ridiculed a little bit, whether
fair unfair for letting George Kirby pitch to carry Carpenter
on Saturday. I'm wondering kind of what was your reaction
in the moment on Saturday, and if there was a
mistake made by Dan, do you think that'll be a
lesson he can maybe lean on as early as tonight.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Well, I think he learned leaned on it as early
as Sunday, because yes, in my mind it was a mistake.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
I thought so at the time.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
You know, there's been a lot of public about the
fact that Carpenter owned George Kirby with four home runs
and the third time through the lineup with a base open,
either walk them or bring in Gabe Spire bringing Inspire.
You know, I thought at the time would have been
the move, and he didn't, and he hit the home run.
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And then the next day in the virtually the exact
same situation presented itself, and this time he did bring
Inspire to face Carpenter. He struck him out very swiftly,
and you know, that was a key moment in the game.
So hopefully he learned a lesson, although I think I
don't know why the lesson was there to be learned.
I'm sure that's the situation they talked about before the game,
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so you know, it should have been something that was
handled before they even got to the got to that situation.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
But it wasn't well, Larry st Larry Stone joining us.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I was first guessing, not second guessing Carlos Vargas, and
I guess when you pitch Bizarto three total pitches in
a game and then take him out, that's going to
put you a little short in the back end, especially
when you go to extra innings. What did you think
of Vargas versus going ahead and going Emerson Hancock and
playing a little more of the long game and extra
innings on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Yeah, I mean, when you get to eleven, eleventh inning,
you're gonna you're gonna have to go deep into your book.
And I agree with you, Bazzardo probably could have been
stretched one more inning, and then you know that pushes
it back even more. But uh, you know, uh, I
I don't know about I think it's a wash. The
choice between Vargas and Emerson Hancock. You're probably gonna have
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to get to Hancock the next inning it if it
went to twelve. Anyway, Vargas has great stuff, but he
could be erratic, and that that that leadoff walk, you
almost knew that that was gonna come back and haunt him,
and it did.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, Well, we had a lot of guys putting leadoff
runners on on on Sunday, and and thank god they
didn't come back to bite him in the ass with
an owl. But I'll tell you what almost came back
to bite him in the ass, hilarry. Was that error
by Josh Naylor in the eighth inning. Man, I was
ready to rip his head off, man. And not not
that I would actually do that because I be scared,
but I was as hot as I've been at a
Mariner baseball player in a long damn time. And we've
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been speculating, and all we can do is speculate. Bec
is nobody knows for sure. But man, when you see
a guy at the plate doing some uncharacteristic stuff and
you see an air like that in the eighth inning,
and then you're it's all, well, his wife's about to
have a baby. You're like, Okay, I kind of get
it right. He's a human being. He's got to have
his mind elsewhere a little bit. How much of that
do you think played into the way he's played so far?
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Well, I saw the picture, Dave of you in the
stands with the glare, and somebody posted on Twitter of
the of the moment of the Naylor.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
Yeah, Naylor, and you did look like you were ready
to kill.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
That was me. That was me when I found out
they ran out of Calicorn. By the way, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Had nothing to do with here, Okay, I mean it
would be human nature to be distracted. Uh, you know,
I had three kids. I was distracted the lead up
to all three of them.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
So U.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
It's funny. Naylor was the darling of the Mirror fans all,
you know, the whole two months that they had him,
and then all of a sudden, everyone was furious at him,
uh after that error. But it's kind of uh, they're
being very cryptic about what's going on. He left for
personal reasons. He's back, but no one's saying whether she
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had the baby or not. So it's it's kind of
mysterious until he I guess they're just keeping it private
and letting him tell as much as he wants to tell.
But if she did have the baby, uh, he would
maybe he'll uh he'll relax now and uh and and
start producing because he's he's over eight with with a
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huge air so far, so they need him to beat
Josh Naylor again.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Well, on the downside of being very cryptic and being
super personal. If you're Josh Naylor, not letting anything out
is you're just opening up the door for massive speculation
from everybody. And if and if indeed the baby has
been born, it might be better off for everybody just
to get it out there and we can move past.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
This, or if it hasn't been born yet that he's
got a natural built of excuse right.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
That's right, right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I don't think he's helping himself to be perfectly honest
with you, Larry, keeping this whole thing a secret.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Yeah, but you know who knows what's going on behind
the scenes. I will give him his space on this.
It's an intensely personal thing.
Speaker 8 (26:30):
You know, who knows.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
What's going on. That could be extenuating.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Circumstances that are leading to this. So yeah, I guess
we'll find out after the game, because he'll he didn't
there was no media availability before the game, but there
will be after, so you know, that question will be asked.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
We'll see if it's answered. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I think I think we'd all feel terrible if we
ridiculed him and then found out there was a complication, right,
like something like that went on. So I Larry, I'm
kind of with you on that. But go back to
July eleventh, twelfth, and thirteenth. That's the last time, Larry,
the Mariners played at k America Park and they put
up thirty five runs in three games. Can we take
anything from that series in July? Or is that just
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now water away under the bridge?
Speaker 5 (27:16):
A little water under the bridge. But I think mentally
it probably gives them a little foundation of, you know,
something to take into to take into the game. And
you know, I don't I don't remember what the lineup
was then. They didn't have Nayler or Sworez by then.
But that was kind of a.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Season saving series.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
It was immediately following the Yankee sweep, right and they
were they were floundering and leading into the All Star break,
and that was a huge thing. And I mean, it
just tells them that they could they could beat the
Tigers on the road, and they could get in America Park.
So I think both of good things.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Mentally, you think energy will be lacking in the building
a little bit tonight because of the rain delay, or
do you think that the fans will just be doublely
lickored up and it'll be even harder and.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Well, that's yeah, that's an interesting question. It is their
playoff home debut. They played the Wildcard series in Cleveland,
so you know how fired up everyone was in Seattle
for the first game. I think theoretically it should be
the same in Detroit. It's a great baseball town. They
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were in the playoffs last year, so it's not like
they've had a big weight like Mariner fans have since
twenty two and you know, only one appearance since one.
So but I don't think they're jaded there yet, and
I expect a pretty lively atmosphere. But I think the
three hour rain delay is sure to put a little
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bit of a tamper.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, well, home field's now gone. It belongs to the
Tigers in this series. Does that change your confidence at all?
I mean we're now tied and it's basically a three
game series with two games out of three out there.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
How do you feel now about this thing going?
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Still like the Mariner's position. Such a huge gutty win
over over Schooble on Sunday. You know, I think if
you'd gone to Detroit with a split the other way around,
you know, you win the opener, you lose to Schooble.
I think everyone would have said, well, that's kind of
the way we you know, that's a natural thing to
lose to the cy Young Award winner. They did it
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the other way around. You know, everyone said Game one
was was vital. You know, it's captain obvious here. But
game three, this one is even more vital. Right, you
don't want to go down to one and have I
guess Bryce Millard to pitch tomorrow to save your season
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the way he's been kind of inconsistent here. If you're
up to one, you know, Bryce Miller, that's that's fine
because you still have Game five at home with probably
George Kirby. Although you're facing Schooble a game, but you
beat school three times. So I still like the position.
I still think they have a slight edge. If they
win today, they take the home field advantage, and so
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that you know, they just have to win tonight.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I'm starting to have serious two thousand and one Game
five Indians vibes. By the way, from from that series
back in the day, that this thing could go exactly
the way that one went. The difference is Game four,
they came right home, played Game five the next day.
I know because I was late to Game five after
my flight got in. All right, Larry, you're the man,
great stuff, Enjoy the game, appreciate the flexibility, and we'll
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talk soon.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Manler.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
All right, guys, thanks you bet.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Larry Stone with us. All right, first pitch at four
from Detroit. We're gonna keep in pregame mode Husky Hanks,
Greg Lewis, Mario Bailey in case you're up for some
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Speaker 3 (31:03):
All right, here we go. We're getting ready for first
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Speaker 2 (31:06):
We have a first pick start time four pm, about
fifteen minutes away.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I cannot think of a better guy to get.
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man right?
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Good? You know, the the anticipation is killing us.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Literally killing us man lineups around of Rose Arena Raleig,
Julio Polanco, Naylor Suarez, Ken Zone, Robles Crawford. But I
learned a long time from you that the one thing
I should really focus on is the starting pitcher, especially
in the postseasons. So let's talk about this delay. Let's
talk about this lineup against Logan Gilbert tonight and the
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whole view from thirty five thousand feet go.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
Well, I think again is a pretty steady eddy. I
think that he's organized, and he knows how to carry himself.
He's been there and done that. I think he's pretty cool,
a pretty cool customer. So I don't think any of
this stuff's going to rattle him too much. I think
he's going to do his he get on his program.
They give you enough, fine, they don't give you, like, hey,
thirty seconds and you've got twenty minutes to start drawing.
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You know, you have a little bit more insight than
the rest of us idiots out here that don't know
when the game is going to start. So you know,
he'll be able to watch the other pictures warm up.
You know, he can kind of gauge himself that way,
so he'll be fine. He'll be fine. He'll have playing
time to warm up and he'll be he'll be ready
to go. And I like Gilbert in this game. I
think you already heard me. I like Gilbert in game one,
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but that's not the direction they went to. But now
here he is, and I think he's the toughest guy
in our staff to hit, so I'll expect him to
have a beg.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Jack flairt is eight and fifteen with a four point
six y nine ERA in his last thirty games, and
that's who Seattle's facing today. He was okay and his
four and two thirds innings pitch last week, but I
mean this.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Seems like a big advantage.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Do you want to come out extra aggressive, particularly after
the delay against this guy or do you see if
he's got location and try to, you know, be a
little bit more patient at the plate against this guy?
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Well, yes, he throws a lot of curveballs, and the
curveball is a real tough pis to land. So but
you know, the marriage and the Mariners, I mean, this
isn't a patient team. The patient the most patient hit
or hits nine. So and sometimes he loses patience because
he wishes he was the lead off there. So yeah,
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I mean JP, I would love to have JP lead enough,
but that's all cast in stone at this point, because
I'd like to have a guy up there that that
kind of makes this guy have a tough time getting
started in the game right and kind of works the
count and files a couple of balls off and makes
him throw everything at him. You know, I would love
to see that, but you know we're talking hypothetically not reality.
(34:00):
You know, you like to see him get into a
fastball count. He doesn't throw real hard, He's got a
good curve ball. He's been around the block. He can pitch.
It's still the updown game. You know, don't chase the
ball above your hands and you know, try to get
a ball you can handle. He's knocking to overpower you,
so uh, you know, I think the Mariners can do.
And they're away from home, so that these green light
(34:21):
on hitting like those on so and you kind of
expect some guys. I mean that, really this series has
been carried by two guys and then a great cameo
by Polonco. That means that everybody else hasn't hit. That
means that some of these guys are going to hit
just that's just human nature, right, So I kind of
see the weight of the world coming off Naylor's shoulders,
(34:42):
and I think he could have a big game and
play play up to his potential again. And and these
other guys, especially in that top six, and you got
canzone down here. He's sneaky. I thought he was way
impatient in the game he played the first game. He's
swinging at the first pitch they're throwing them, pick the
ball and change up, so he's fillyling and everything he
needs to really and go up there and get a
good ball to hit. Yeah, I think our offense is
(35:04):
going to come on and Gilbert's going to be tough
to hit. The real question for Gilbert is he exhausts
himself trying to strike everybody out and he starts to
get weary in the fifth inning. Hopefully he can get
a few easy outs just by just by accident. Hopefully
he gets some easy out so he doesn't have to
strike everybody out and he can carry the game a
little bit further.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Well, Polanco, cal and Julio have twenty two total bases
combined the first two games. The rest of the team's
got three in the first two games. Of this series.
But you know, I'll ask you the same question I
asked Larry Stone Bill when he was on with us
last segment before you and Bill Krueger a game with us.
We're just minutes away from first pitch four o'clock today
(35:45):
from Detroit in game three of the AODS that the
last time the Mariners were at Camerica, the weather was
a bit different, it was mid July and they scored
thirty five runs. Does that series resonate mean anything at all?
Or is that just history at this point?
Speaker 6 (36:01):
I think it's history. You know, these speaks come and go.
You catch a team that you not their starting pitcher
out and then you get a little bit of cannon
fodder in the game, and then the game gets out
of reach.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
Right.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
But this this this Tiger team from a standpoint of pitching.
They got one giant, tough guy to hit that we've
already faced and we may face him again, who knows.
But the rest of their staff isn't like big stuff,
so uh, none of them and so uh thirty is
not going to be overpowering. Mice is not going to
(36:35):
be overpowering. They don't have a real scary bullpen. They
got some guys that can pitch a little bit. That
Holton kid could pitch. I think he's tough, But yeah,
the Marriers could score runs, and I hope so I'd
like to see Jilbert carry the game a little bit further.
I'd like to see the Mariners so confident in the
starting pitcher and not get into a chess match with
(36:56):
eight D Hinch. Let let Logan pitch.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
A little bit.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Let's score some runs. Let's have it's a confidence in
our offense. Does not get to one to one and
it's given up one hit. One guy's on base and
you have to take him out because Carpenter's coming to
the plate like he's ruth. I mean what, Gilbert, he's
got better stuff than any of those guys. Think we
got our bullpen? He does, so I hope he gets
to pitch a little bit more. I understand the gravity
(37:20):
of the situation. I understand all that. It's it's everything
hinges on one play, one pitch, and you know it.
I get it. But this is what I hope to
see a few runs score. Gilbert carries the game a
little bit further and it becomes more of a Mariner
style of game, where the starting pitchers, is at least
the co star of the game, along with the offense.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Bill the rain delaid. Does it hurt the Mariners? That
certainly hurt him in that road trip a couple of
months ago.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Does that matter at all?
Speaker 6 (37:51):
I think that they have so much adrenaline now that
I can't see how any of that's going to affect him. Yeah,
I really don't. I think that the guys are amp
to play. It's a big moment. They're they're gonna be fine.
They're gonna come out ready to go.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Bill Krueger, great stuff. Enjoy the game, and just do
us a favor.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Uh, don't don't turn your ringer off, all right, because
you never know we might call you at midnight.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Tonight to jump on the radio station with us.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
All right, buddy, I know who knows when this game
is gonna end, but fellows, it's gonna be high theater,
and I like the club man. I think they're gonna
win the series and win tonight.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I love it, all right, go get the Bill Krueger
with us. Courtesy of the Oxen in the Hall. We'll
get a break. Husky honks. Greg Lewis, Mario Bailey, Plus
we award somebody's gonna win round trip airfair to to
Detroit and game tickets for you dub Michigan courtesy of Delta.
In the we Fly You Buy contest, we fly you
buy everything else. We're gonna get your game tickets too.
(38:50):
By the way, we're not that cheap, so we fly
you by courtesy of Delta Airlines for everybody who signed
up for round trip airfare to Michigan game tickets courtesy
of Innue Kings for the game next weekend against the Wolverines.
We will announce that winner coming up after the update
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