November 13, 2024 • 32 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain talk about Geno Smith’s future with the Seahawks, talk to PFT’s Mike Florio about Geno and more NFL news, then Jackson shares his Fact or Fiction pick with some help from a guest before some Fun w/ Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Mike Holmgren had to say to Ian Ferness, who will
join us tomorrow? He's still on the road, by the way,
we haven't seen the guy in like a month. He
was in Where's he go? Portugal? Yeah, then he wayne
in California for some hall of fame, some hall of fame.
That sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me. I
think Mike just wanted to get the hell out of
here and go to his cabin in Santa Clara.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Wouldn't you look outside? One thousand percent?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
And if I gotta lie by the way, I'm going
into some hall of fame, I can't make it. I'll
be in California for two weeks. I'll see when I
get back.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
This is the beginning, calling bs on all this, man,
This is definitely the start of get me the hell
out of seatle no question, no question.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Well he'll join us tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Mike was on with the in for Neest today and
said that he thinks the Seahawks will sign Geno Smith
to another contract. Hang on, he says, I think they're
going to try to sign him to another contract. And
we've been talking about this for the last couple of months.
That middle of the road. Starting quarterbacks in the NFL
right now are making thirty five to forty million a year.
So let's just you know, for inflation between now and
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next April. I guess, let's just put the number of
forty million. If Geno Smith comes to you and you're
John Schneider, what's up, bro? And he wants a two year,
eighty million dollar extension. Okay, So let's say he wants
to maybe rip up next year's deal and he wants
a two year, eighty million dollar deal right now?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Do you give it to him?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I mean, if you're looking at fairness, the answer is yes,
because that puts you at fifteenth in the NFL and
average salary and Geno's.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Give him all, and which is exactly what Gino is.
He's like the fifteenth best quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
But you also have to think is that where I
want to spend my resources or are my resources better spent?
And will my team be better if I take a
bit of a hit at the quarterback position and open
up forty million dollars to spend elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It's a answer, no question. Do you want to give
him the two year eight million? Are drafting a quarterback. Yeah,
so you I can give you an answer, but just
want to answer.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Let's say.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
There's a lot of nuance here, guys, because because there's
the question of do you want to or should they.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I'm right, I'm asking you if you're John Schneider, all right,
So all of a sudden, you're like this tall Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Are you giving Geno Smith that you can do whatever
you want? Or you can draft somebody, you can trade
for somebody, you can do this.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
You can do that.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Are you giving him Let's say the NFL has a
rule that by Thanksgiving you have to decide, like the
fifty year option has to be done before the start
of year four right in the NFL for first round
draft picks. NFL just this is breaking news. The NFL
has passed a new rule that by five o'clock Pacific
time on November thirteenth, you must decide whether or not
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Gino Smith gets a two year, eighty million dollar deal
tonight tonight. And if you don't give it to him,
then you can't sign him. He would become a free
agent to the end of the twenty five season, and
he's eligible to walk away.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
What are you doing.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Since there's no other options. No, I mean i'd be grudgingly,
but I don't want to. Okay, I don't want to,
but I think he will. Is that Is that a
fair answer?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
The I think he will but I don't want is
that you can sign him and you can just draft
somebody in April, because I mean, you look, you draft
the first run guy, you draft the second round guy.
I mean, you know, the guy may not be making
that much money over the course of his contract. Maybe
it's a four year deal, maybe it's a five year
deal when it's all said and done.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
But I think the most Seahawks fans, Dick would probably
agree with you that tonight, because we are slaves to
the moment here as fans, right we really are. Uh
maybe if this is after the Atlanta game or the
Lion game, maybe people feel differently. But the Seahawks have
played so poorly offensively the last two weeks that I
don't think anybody right now is in a mood to
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be pumping up, you know, Gino's tires and giving this
guy an extra you know, a couple of years or
extra you know, forty seventy five eighty million bucks.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
It's not going to get better on Sunday, he's zero
and five against the Niners.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, Milan brought that up this morning. He's oh and
five with a passer rating of eighty one, that this
is a big game for him. Well, let's ask our
next guest, Mike Florio.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
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(04:34):
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Speaker 1 (04:36):
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Speaker 2 (04:48):
I saw your anything that you like that?
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Huh?
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I just thought it was cool that a fifty one
year old white guy used the word dope on social media.
All right, Mike Florio, who is not a dope alas,
but he looks dope every day I see him on TV.
Here he is from Pro Footballtalk dot Com, the NFL, NBC,
the CAG How dare you of all NFL media, our
friend Michael Florio, how are you men?
Speaker 6 (05:10):
Good afternoon?
Speaker 8 (05:11):
Butthole and butthole sub buttholes.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Hey, buddy, let me ask you a question about Geno Smith.
Are you prepared tonight if you have to, which you don't,
But let's just dance with me here to give Gino
Smith an extension that he so desperately seeks when his
contract ends after next year. Does he look like the
kind of guy that John Schneider is going to want
to sign to a forty million dollar a year deal.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
No, No, And I love Geno Smith, former West Virginia quarterback,
a picture of resilience, overcoming adversity, being ruined by the Jets,
resurfacing and becoming a middle of a pack starting quarterback.
And when you start listing all of the better quarterbacks,
you get down to fifteen, sixteen, seventeen before you get
to him, which is fine, which is fine. Not everyone
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can be top five. If you have every one in
the top five, you got thirty guys in the top five,
so that's fine. He's got a contract that takes him
a fair rate, around twenty five million a year. They
trumpet up when they leak the initial numbers, as they
always do. He wanted a new contract in the offseason
because basically it's a year to year deal, and they
did year one. At the end of year one, they
decided they keep it for year two. They restructured it,
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and now they're in year two. They've got one more year.
They control his rights. There's not a damn thing he
can do, and he's making more money than he ever
could have dreamed. He was going to make base on
the way his career started, so he can help and puff,
but he's not blown anyone's house down.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
He's not going to hold out.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Now, you wann't your quarterback to be happy. If the
quarterback's not all in, you can have a problem. But
he needs to be all in if he wants to
get paid somewhere else. And he does plan to keep playing.
He told me a couple of weeks ago after they
beat Atlanta. He wants to play like eight more years.
He wants to play into his forties, and he believes
he can. Whether or not it's with the Seahawks remains
to be seen. He's got good moments, he's got bad moments.
It's just like the Seahawks all year long. They're too
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inconsistent and they have to at some point become consistently
good or consistently bad, or it's just going to be
this roller up and down for the rest of the year.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Mike, you wrote about Dion today.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Do you think an NFL team will reach out and
do you think he's a better fit in the NFL
or college football?
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Well, he had said in the past he's not interested
in coaching in the NFL, and he alluded to the
fact that the guys in the NFL are making a
ton of money. Well, the guys in college at the
highest level of a programer making a ton of money
now too. I don't think he would rule it out
if somebody came calling with the money that goes along
with being an NFL head coach. And I don't think
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it's as crazy as it sounds to give him a truck.
The traditional route has produced plenty of bad coaches over
the years. You take a coordinator and you elevate him
to head coach, he's never been a head coach before.
Maybe he doesn't know what he's doing when it comes
time to take over an entire football operation. Darren Rizzy,
the interim coach of the Saints, who was a special
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teams coordinator for years and years before he got a
chance to take over the Saints for the rest of
the season. He told me after they beat the Falcons
this past weekend, and he thinks that owners in gms
don't consider special teams coordinators because they want to make buzz,
they want to win the press conference. Well, if you
want to win the press conference, Deon Sanders is going
to help you win the press conference. You put a
good staff around him, you let him be the CEO
of the team. And I think it's worth a shot,
(08:13):
because again, plenty of teams have done plenty worse over
the years and it doesn't work, you just move on,
like the Jaguars did with Irban Meyer.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
What do you make of this story that he's going
to control where Shador and Travis Hunter end up in
the draft and how likely is it that he can
succeed in doing that.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Well, first of all, it's about time somebody pushes back
against the draft industrial complex act like it's the Harry
Potter sworting hat, where it's your destiny based upon where
you're picked, and you should be thrilled. It's an honor
and a privilege. Well it's not honored in privilese. If
you go to a bad team with a bad owner
and a bad GM and a bad coach and a
bad roster in your career gets ruined, like the Jets
over the years, from Geno Smith to Sam Darnold to
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maybe Zach Wilson if he ends up becoming a better quarterback,
if he ever gets a chance to play again. So
I think it's overdue, and it's like the NFL's version
of Haley's calm. At every twenty one years, it happens.
It happened in eighty three, which John Elway had happened
at four with Eli Manning. It's due to come around again.
And the key is you need someone who can run
public interference for you, because if you get perceived as
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a guy who is standing up, who is daring to
stand up to the draft system, you get flagged as
a troublemaker, a malcontent. The fans don't like you, and
if you don't work out, you never hear the end
of it, just like Caleb Williams here and now about
how there was a suggestion from last summer that he
was looking for a piece of equity in whatever team
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drafted him. Hey, there's nothing wrong with that. When you've
got leverage, when you can say to a team, no,
thank you, I won't come sign with you if you
draft me, there's nothing wrong with that. The problem is
fans don't like if they want players to fully and
unconditionally submit to wherever they're drafted, whatever spot it is,
however bad the team might be.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Mike, I have you gotten a feel for this opponent
of the Seahawks on Sunday, the forty nine Ers, Because
I don't. I can't figure out whether they're a Super
Bowl contending team or a team that's going to struggle
to make the playoffs. We're seeing Deebo Samuel whacking his uh,
choking his long snapper.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I mean, what is going on there? By the way,
that sounds so by disgusting. He's choking his long snapper.
Jeez man, wow wow, really yeah yeah, he listen butthole, Seriously,
you're gonna cut me with really get out of here
with that, Okay, So the.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Forty nine ers are a fascinating case study and whether
to what extent they can get healthy and stay healthy enough.
They have Christian McCaffrey back, they're stacking wins. They're in
a division that, as you guys know, is wide open.
Although they have lost to the Cardinals and they've lost
to the Rams, games they should have won playing with
their food like the Chiefs tend to do and let
teams come back when a big lead is built. So
(10:40):
they just need to keep piling together and piecing together
win after win. But it really is comical that number
one Deebo did what he did and number two Kyle
Shanahan tried to downplay it. I mean, I know he's
got to try to downplay it, but it's just laughable
because it's not like this happens all the time. Once
or twice a year we get some sort of older case,
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and I can't remember a time that somebody actually put
his hand on a teammate's throat. I remember Kevin Gilbright
getting punched in the face by Buddy Ryan. But the
fact that there aren't many of those tells you how
rare it is that Deebo did what he did. And
we're going to be talking about it for years to come.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Mike Florio's with us is Russell Wilson back is mister
unlimited back.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
I don't know, you tell me. Look at what he does.
And I love the contrast between him and Aaron Rodgers,
with Mike Williams as the pivot between the two because
number one, whatever you say about Russell Wilson, however you
want to criticize him for being corny, you're the mister
unlimited thing. And he can be goofy, and he's too
goody good, and he was always viewed as management, not
part of the rank and file with the Seahawks. He
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throw all that out.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
He would never ever ever.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Criticize the teammate publicly the way that Aaron Rodgers did
when he called out Mike Williams for running the wrong
route not Monday night game against the Buffalo Bills. And
Russell Wilson trusts his receipt and he's not obsessed with
his stats. Only want stat matters points scored and points allowed.
Aaron Rodgers I think overly obsessed with completion percentage and
touchdown the interception ratio, because that's how he distinguishes himself
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from the quarterbacks who have won more Super Bowls than
he has, so he doesn't trust these guys. I love
it how Russell Wilson will just grow how many quarterbacks
that the Steelers have to go through before they found
a guy who recognized I just need to throw it
in the general vicinity of George Pickens and everything will
be fine and lo and behold it works. So I
think it's great, and I'm going to be writing something
at PFT and I've mentioned this a couple of times
(12:33):
over the past day or so. At some point, the
Steelers have to wonder whether or not they break from
this stupid rule they have that they don't negotiate contracts
during football season, and maybe ask themselves, should we lock
Russell Wilson in for next year and maybe the year
after before the season ends, and we have to decide
whether or not to use the franchise tag or let
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him see what's out there on the market, because the
way he's playing. Here's the answer with Russell Wilson, use
him the way he was us in Seattle. If you
use him that way, he can still be as good
as he was in Seattle. It's when you try to
do too much with him, and let him do too
much and do all the things that go on behind
the line of scrimmage before the play starts. That's not him.
Just let him go do his thing. Let Russ cook
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and it's not about the predetermined recipe. It's about the
frying pan and what can dispatchelo once the heat's on.
And he's doing it in Pittsburgh and it's fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Jackson brought up a good point. We were talking about
the Colts in the in the break a few minutes ago,
he said, why didn't just the Colts just say they
benched Anthony Richardson for two weeks because he tapped out?
Why don't they just admit that that's what happened.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
I think that was part of it. I think there's
a broader maturity issue, and I think they wanted him
to get a wake up call. And you know, between
Bryce Young getting benched for a few weeks and coming
back and playing and now Anthony Richardson, it could be
the teams are rethinking this idea that once you put
a highly drafted quarterback on the field, you can never
go back, you can never bench him. It's gonna ruin him,
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like John Elway got ruined when they played games with
him early in his career. Well, guess what, he ended
up winning a couple of Super Bowls and going to
a couple.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
More beyond that.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
So maybe it's not the ruination of a quarterback to
have to sit down and get that message and mature
to a certain extent. And I think this makes sense
because look, when the Colts lost the first two games
with Joe Flackler with quarterback, it's like, Okay, the goal
in putting in putting Flacco out there was we're trying
to win games to make it to the playoffs. We're
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four and four, we can make a run. You lose
two games, Like, hey, if we're going to lose, let's
at least give this guy reps. He's got to get
to his ceiling. He can do great things. Peter King
always quotes Bill Walsh as saying, if I see a
guy do something once, I can coach him how to
do it all the time. When you see the best
of the best of Anthony Richardson, it's amazing. He needs opportunities,
he needs repetitions, he needs coaching so he can do
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his best stuff on a consistent base.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, Mike, before you go, the Bears firing Shane Waldron,
and I'll be honest with you, all of us here
in Seattle thought it was almost a joke that he
got hired there. They're going to allow this guy to
be in charge, Caleb Williams, Are you a kid?
Speaker 9 (15:01):
Me?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Guy's got less personality than this microphone I'm talking into
right now. And by the way, just so you know,
the Shane Waldron has been hired as the offensive coordinator
story from the Bears website is gone. It doesn't exist anymore.
You can't even look at it, for God's sakes. But
what did you make of that firing in Chicago?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Well, I look at it, and I say, how is
anything going to get any better by changing offensive coordinators
nine games into the season, nine games into the career
of Caleb Williams. Unless there really was some high level
dysfunction that they truly believe had to end and Shane
Waldron had to go, And it's going to improve under
Thomas Brown. But I just think this is a stopover
on the way to firing Maddy Verflus the head coach
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and hiring an offensive guy to be the head coach.
This is the problem. You have a young quarterback with
a high draft pedigree, if you have a defensive coach
and an offensive coordinator who is the number one conduit
for that quarterback. If things go well, he's going to
be gone. He's going to be a head coach somewhere else.
The things don't go well, he's going to be gone.
And then you get into an Alex Smith situation where
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the guy's got a different offensive coordinator every year for
seven years. I want Sean Payton and Drew Brees. I
want head coach from quarterback joined at the hip together
for ten years. If it works, that's what the Bears
need to do. Next year, we'll see if they do it.
We'll see if they realize that's what they need to do.
But it feels like that's the direction. It's movement.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Mike, you're the man. Great stuff. Love you talking a week.
See you, Thanks, Mike.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
All right, Mike Florio with us Factor Fiction. It's Wednesday,
It's Jackson's Day. We'll dive more into this Geno conversation.
By the way, I seem to remember Mike Florio making
a proclamation about Geno Smith back in August that made
people lose their fricking minds. We should revisit that a
little bit. Coming up on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
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Speaker 1 (16:57):
All right, Factor fix, brat to you by the aermo
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Speaker 2 (17:06):
Punting like you are.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
No, I'm not funning at all. I did my research
on the Louisiana Monroe Auburn game. I jumped all over
that Sunday night, was burning the midnight oil, breaking it down,
and I felt very good about my selection. I might
even bet the house on Monroe actually winning the game,
to be honest with you, that's how good I feel
about it.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
You know, when they win or cover, you're gonna have
a lot to apologize for. Pass Well, it's literally.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
A fifty to fifty shot because you absolutely did the
Roulette wheel and then just pointed at your computer screen.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Jackson's got it. He's fired up for Factor fiction.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Hey, does anybody remember when Mike Florio was on this
show over the offseason and had the audacity to come
on the air and put Geno Smith in a category
of quarterback that some people did not think he belonged in.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
He is lower third right now the National Football League,
but he's starting quarterback in the NFL. And the Seahawks
aren't about high flying passing offense. So they signed your
Deck contract in twenty twenty three. That was hyped as
a three year, one hundred million dollars deal. It was
a three year, seventy five million dollar deal, and it's
a year to year proposition. I think until you have
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a franchise quarterback, And that's how I always describe it.
These three types of teams in the NFL, teams that
have franchise quarterbacks, teams that don't, and teams that have
a guy they're not quite sure what they have, so
they're keeping their eyes open for a potential franchise quarterback.
And that's what I think the Seahawks are.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
People absolutely lost their minds when Florio said that. I
tweeted that out. People went ballistic. He's an idiot, He's
got no idea what he's talking about. To get this
guy off the air, he's a bum. You and I
were arguing on the air versus like twentieth versus twenty third, Like,
what the hell's the difference? We're literally fighting over the
tallest dwarf on the air. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
What do we think now? How about that?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Because Gino Smith has the twenty third best QBR in
the National Football League? Smith is behind guys like Bo Nicks,
Sam Darnold, Drake may and Baker Mayfield. And look, I
think he's a little bit of a better quarterback than that.
To be honest, I think we got.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
To take the guys that have only started like four
games out of there. Justin Fields is ahead of Gino Smith.
You can't put Justin Fields in a QBR discussion four games,
and I didn't mention Justin Fields. Joe how many starters?
Joe Flacco out.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Six starts, Drake May's got six, Jordan Love's got seven,
Baker Mayfield's got ten. I mean, look, dude, Dick, here's
the point. I don't think that what Mike Florio said
in August was remotely ridiculous, and I think a lot
of people would agree with that more today than they
did maybe a couple of months ago, including you. So
we got to figure out what we have in Gino
Smith here. Do we have a franchise quarterback in Gino Smith?
(19:47):
I don't think we do. But do we have a
quarterback in Gino Smith that can be the answer for
this team while they find the next Have any of.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Us ever thought we had a franchise quarterback round?
Speaker 6 (19:56):
No Smith?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
No, But people never change. But there are people out
there who believe that still.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And there's also people out there who went crazy when
Mike Florio had the.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Didn't like it to say he was bottom third.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I didn't like it, and I still don't think he's
I still don't think he's bottom third, but I will
say he's closer to the bottom of the second third
than he is to the top of the second third. Now,
he has been worse under this regime than he was
under Shane Waldron, and that's scary. And it's not all
offensive line. I had a long discussion about it when
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you were gone on Friday with you. It is not
all offensive line. It is a lot on Gino Smith
and his decision making and his holding on to the football.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
What's a lot, What's a lot if we're breaking this down,
if we're just gonna pick two categories, GINO are line,
how much does the line get?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
How much does GINO get I'd almost go third third,
third grub line.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Now we're not doing that, we're doing talent. We're doing
offensive line in GINO. I give you two options, if
it's Gino or the line. Is it a Geno problem
or is it an offensive line?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Pretty close to fifty? Do you think it's fifty to fifty? Wow? Okay,
I think he's pretty close to him.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
He just makes unbelievably horrendous decisions right, and many where
he's not even pressured.
Speaker 10 (21:09):
Well, it's gonna say a lot of them are win.
I think he's pressured. And I saw I'm going seventy
thirty line to gym.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I just think I just wonder how much of this
is because he's playing behind that line, right, how much
that's got the guy seeing goes, how much it's got
him doing things he otherwise would not do because of
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Speaker 1 (21:55):
I have never seen Jackson that's excited for a selection.
He's dressed it up, god props, He's got all kinds
of cool stuff. It's Wednesday, it's factor fiction, It's Jackson's Day.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
What do you got?
Speaker 10 (22:05):
We actually have a phone call ready to get to
here because I think I told you in the break
you're gonna love this pic. You love a home underdog,
do and you also love the Pittsburgh Steelers. I do.
They are getting three at home to the Baltimore Ravens.
And if you don't believe me, and if you don't
believe Dick who loves the Pittsburgh Steelers, then believe the
guy who's on the phone right now.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
Hey, guys, Russell here, Yes, the typical boring, Yes, Russell,
the robot Russell one does love to know a real,
real exciting you know, I'm real exciting. But anyways, Uh,
everybody has to have an ulter ego, right, And I've
been thinking about what my alter ego would be.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
And I think I have an alter ego.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
His name.
Speaker 9 (22:43):
His name's mister, mister, mister unlimited.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
You gotta be.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
Unlimited, you know.
Speaker 9 (22:49):
They gotta have a thought process of being unlimited. So
when people ask you, you know, what you're thinking about,
or what you want to do in life or where
you want to go, you gotta be unlimited. Tell him
I'm a limited, you know what I mean. So when
they ask you certain questions like brity motivation, mister unlimited,
Russell unlimited, who was.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Your go to person for advice?
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Russell? They think Pete Carol, they think this person, think
that person, love you, Pete.
Speaker 9 (23:19):
But it's mister unlimited.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
First of all, let me just tell you real quick.
When you first played that, I didn't realize that was
the original mister unlimited post. I thought, Oh, good for
him for finally making fun of himself. Nope, that's from
three years ago. That was amazing, mister Limited. By the way,
new idea for a bracket during the summer Top eight
Dorks and Sports right, now Russell's the one seed, Mike
(23:44):
Benton two seed.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
All right, I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Sorry, Mike, all right, Jackson, finish it.
Speaker 10 (23:50):
Up, come on, alright, So Pittsburgh Steels. Listen, there is
a thought to this. It's very funny to hear that.
But the Steelers, I think are a very very good
football team. They're getting points at home against the Ravens.
Ravens have been up and down this season, but I
think Pittsburgh is flying underneath.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Mister right, So we're taking to Pittsburgh plus three three, okay.
I like it on the surface, A little bit concerning
about the fact that the bubble is going to burst
at some point. It's won three in a row, a
four in a row. I think I'm limited, though, you okay,
you're right. Let's get let's all get in the mindset.
Let's all getting the unlimited mindset. Mister U limited taking
(24:24):
Pittsburgh at the points. It was on my list at
three and a half, not only at three. So he
get a lost for a field goal, but it's still
I still like it.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
And Jackson Mike Tomlin as a home underdog against the
spread in his career nineteen six and three.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I like that nineteen six and three when he's getting
points at home.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
So yeah, and these games are always super super tight,
so i'd be I think it's going to be a
three point game one way or the other. And we
win almost every scenario with a three point game absolutely.
Speaker 10 (24:53):
While we have a few seconds, can can I just
play one more thing?
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
In time when you come home at the church and
you realize that you knew great Dane. We've got three
of them, right to the little one. Little puppy has
pooped everywhere, all over his creat I show you all,
but I don't want to scare you. Diarrhea poop.
Speaker 11 (25:13):
Gotta take a little man to the bit unlimited diarrhea limit.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Why is that not a drop?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I gotta tell you, I thought that was a comedian
doing Russell Wilson because the voice changed again. He's got
all these different excess and I thought that was some
white guy doing we get the unlimited diarrhea F drop.
Speaker 11 (25:32):
Limited diarrhea limit to my happy place. She out heah,
prigging uh, trying to take a photo.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I think we have enough accents to Russell Wilson that
we could do top eight Russell Wilson access.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
In a bracket over the summer.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Honestly, all right, all right, I mean do you like
do you like gangster Russell.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
She out here prigging or do you like nerdy Russell?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Limit?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Which one do you like?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
All right? Pittsburgh on the Points factor fiction four nine
four five one get him in right now, Curtesy of
the Emeral Queen a little funnel audio slash, Hey did
you hear that?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
And then Petros.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Popacketh they gotta join us, coming up.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
At four o'clock.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
You can pop your head out of your button now
right here on ninety three three kJ arfm.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I Limited, Diarrhea I Limited. It's now time for something
in Digg's Fun with Audio. Jimmy g paunt Star Jimmy
mister garoppolo. Now let's have some fun with audio Alli.
Petro's gonna join us. Coming at four o'clock.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
We'll ask Kim what our concern meter should be for
the UCLA game over the weekend. All right, ran a
poll there day and it was sixty forty. Most people
kind of concerned about it in some former fashion. Petros
will join us. Next segment, Kevin Harlan coming up five
o'clock tonight on the radio. Show right now though a
little fun with audio slash. Hey did you hear that?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Hey, Dick? Did you happen here? What's that day? What's
that dick?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Syracuse football lost thirty seven thirty one to Boston College
last weekend first year head coach Fran Brown at Syracuse
at six and three, but at the press conference this week,
Brown outlined his postgame ritual following losses that is impacting
his behavior at home.
Speaker 12 (27:17):
Honestly, I got like a ritual, like when we lose,
I ain't even get in a shower till early this morning.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I just be mad.
Speaker 12 (27:23):
I just brush my teeth. But it's like I don't
deserve soap. I don't deserve to do all that. I
just I'm just focused on like trying to get back
and trying to make sure that our players mentally understand
and know that I let them down, that they didn't
do it.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
You know.
Speaker 12 (27:35):
I just wake up all night, Especially when you lose,
you like wake up like, dang, it really happened, you know,
I really happened that way. So it's just different pieces
and then I just move on. There's a process that
I follow every week. One loser draw only. Thing is
like my wife. I can't sleep in the bed if
we lose, cause I ain't gonna get in a shower
for that day. I'm just mad and I just sit there.
(27:57):
I just brush my teeth. That's what I have to do.
So y'all, I won't say my breasting, but I'm just
just kind of locked in a certain things, certain ways.
I think you got to you got to earn the
right to do certain things. So you know, winners get washed,
you know what I'm saying. Loser, I just kind of
waited a little bit.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Is he high on something? Might be? Uh, there's a
lot of unhealthiness what I just heard in that last minute.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Is he into like self flagellation or something or what's
he like? He doesn't deserve soap because he lost a
football game. Yeah, he doesn't need to be clean. He's
dirty and needs to live in his own filth and
show somebody out there that he's not worthy of cleansing himself.
I mean, there's something wrong with that guy. And the
(28:43):
really just Hey, he's trying to be funny and it
did not come across like that or be there's something
really wrong with it.
Speaker 10 (28:50):
Hold on so again, and he's talking about the loss
on Saturday, right, I believe I think from the clip
I got that from that that was from yesterday. He
said I didn't get in the shower until this morning.
That means he didn't shower Saturday night after the game,
all of Sunday or all of Monday. Yeah, And look,
coaches don't sweat as much as players do, but they
sweat more.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Certainly.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I used to work in restaurants back in the day
when I was like sixteen seventeen years old, and I'd
be so exhausted from working the dish pit at Billy
McHale's in Factory, I just go to bed. You know
what it's like to wake up after you've been washing
dishes for eight hours and you peel the sheets off
your skin. It's disgusting. And this guy's doing that on purpose. Well, oh,
you really showed them.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Coach.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
You've always talked about the lists that the eighties have,
right the coach the potential coaching list crossed him off.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
If I'm hearing that, I'm like, sorry, you're you're weird,
and you're off.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
My right, this guy here is stinky cross him off
the list. Yeah, that's just weird, man.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Maybe he's got something figured out that none of us know,
but whatever, all right, hey Dick, did you happen here?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
During a press conference last week, Washington State head coach
Jack Dickard, who I believe does shower, shared his feelings
about the team needing more home support at Martin Stadium.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
Bottom line, though, Greg is like, our fans need to
show up. I need to show up, like on third down,
It's got to be loud in there. It's got to
have a huge impact for what this team is doing
because we are where we're at and we need them,
and any edge that we can create as great momentum
for our football team, I think is gonna be very huge.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
So I haven't paid much attention to this.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I do know that a lot of Cougar fans have
been talking about this, that the attendance at Martin Stadium
has not been good this year. Correct, And I think
the number one reason why, according to a lot of people,
is the price of hotel rooms in Pullman. Apparently it's
ridiculous how much they're charging people. I would just say this,
go to Spokane. I mean, every time I've been to
an Apple Cup we've always stayed in spoken right. But
the problemly single time. W here's the problem with Spokane.
(30:43):
You don't know what time the game's going to be
until like ten days before the game, you know, then
get two nights and cancel the next one. Book two nights.
I mean, we stay at that Northern Quest casino every time.
It's like an hour drive. It's awesome flying a Spokane
drive to Spokane. Look, I mean, I'm not here to
just tell people to suck it up, because that's not
my style. But the capitalism that's happening in Pullman with
(31:05):
these hotel rooms is never going to change.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Ever.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, as long as people keep buying rooms, they'll keep
charging you up that.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
You know what, I heard something, because you know, I
have to watch all those games, I heard something on
the broadcast that I never hear a colored person say,
and that is Wow, this crowd's really disappointing. But I
found out that the color commentator was a Cougar, So
I guess a cougar, a former Cougar player probably adds
(31:32):
a little more, you know, a little more poll to
call the Cougar crowd disappointed.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I just get one more here, Hey, Dick, did you
happen to hear that? What's that? Dick three or four?
Speaker 6 (31:41):
Pick?
Speaker 13 (31:41):
On?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
All Right?
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Fox Sports radio host Doug Gottlieb Barpal joined the Athletics
Andrew Marshawn and his Main Event podcast last weekend and
took a shot at ESPN Steven A.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Smith for his debating style and lack of preparation.
Speaker 13 (31:53):
Stephen A has become a little bit too big for
his breeches. And you know, I think a lot of
those are artificial arguments. I respect how strong an orator
he is, how strong a personality is h and the
fact that he'll bring is stephen A to everything he does,
but I also think there's a level of prepperedness that
is missing.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
So you know he wants to be president?
Speaker 7 (32:15):
Right?
Speaker 8 (32:15):
Well?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, can you imagine him giving a State of the
Union speech? Jimmy gen Jimmy, mister garoppolo, I would not
provide obbs to Iran never.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Can you imagine that guy in a stated Dude, don't
tell me you wouldn't want.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I'd pay to see that. I'd pay to vote for him.
I'd give one hundred dollars to vote for him. Oh
my god.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Ten years ago I would have said, there's absolutely no chance,
and now.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
You never know what's gonna happen. We will not provide
any weapons. We're gonna break Petro's next
Mike Holmgren had to say to Ian Ferness, who will
join us tomorrow? He's still on the road, by the way,
we haven't seen the guy in like a month. He
was in Where's he go? Portugal? Yeah, then he wayne
in California for some hall of fame, some hall of fame.
That sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me. I
think Mike just wanted to get the hell out of
here and go to his cabin in Santa Clara.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Wouldn't you look outside? One thousand percent?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
And if I gotta lie by the way, I'm going
into some hall of fame, I can't make it. I'll
be in California for two weeks. I'll see when I
get back.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
This is the beginning, calling bs on all this, man,
This is definitely the start of get me the hell
out of seatle no question, no question.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Well he'll join us tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Mike was on with the in for Neest today and
said that he thinks the Seahawks will sign Geno Smith
to another contract. Hang on, he says, I think they're
going to try to sign him to another contract. And
we've been talking about this for the last couple of months.
That middle of the road. Starting quarterbacks in the NFL
right now are making thirty five to forty million a year.
So let's just you know, for inflation between now and
(01:05):
next April. I guess, let's just put the number of
forty million. If Geno Smith comes to you and you're
John Schneider, what's up, bro? And he wants a two year,
eighty million dollar extension. Okay, So let's say he wants
to maybe rip up next year's deal and he wants
a two year, eighty million dollar deal right now?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Do you give it to him?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I mean, if you're looking at fairness, the answer is yes,
because that puts you at fifteenth in the NFL and
average salary and Geno's.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Give him all, and which is exactly what Gino is.
He's like the fifteenth best quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
But you also have to think is that where I
want to spend my resources or are my resources better spent?
And will my team be better if I take a
bit of a hit at the quarterback position and open
up forty million dollars to spend elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It's a answer, no question. Do you want to give
him the two year eight million? Are drafting a quarterback. Yeah,
so you I can give you an answer, but just
want to answer.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Let's say.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
There's a lot of nuance here, guys, because because there's
the question of do you want to or should they.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I'm right, I'm asking you if you're John Schneider, all right,
So all of a sudden, you're like this tall Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Are you giving Geno Smith that you can do whatever
you want? Or you can draft somebody, you can trade
for somebody, you can do this.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
You can do that.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Are you giving him Let's say the NFL has a
rule that by Thanksgiving you have to decide, like the
fifty year option has to be done before the start
of year four right in the NFL for first round
draft picks. NFL just this is breaking news. The NFL
has passed a new rule that by five o'clock Pacific
time on November thirteenth, you must decide whether or not
(02:55):
Gino Smith gets a two year, eighty million dollar deal
tonight tonight. And if you don't give it to him,
then you can't sign him. He would become a free
agent to the end of the twenty five season, and
he's eligible to walk away.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
What are you doing.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Since there's no other options. No, I mean i'd be grudgingly,
but I don't want to. Okay, I don't want to,
but I think he will. Is that Is that a
fair answer?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
The I think he will but I don't want is
that you can sign him and you can just draft
somebody in April, because I mean, you look, you draft
the first run guy, you draft the second round guy.
I mean, you know, the guy may not be making
that much money over the course of his contract. Maybe
it's a four year deal, maybe it's a five year
deal when it's all said and done.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
But I think the most Seahawks fans, Dick would probably
agree with you that tonight, because we are slaves to
the moment here as fans, right we really are. Uh
maybe if this is after the Atlanta game or the
Lion game, maybe people feel differently. But the Seahawks have
played so poorly offensively the last two weeks that I
don't think anybody right now is in a mood to
(03:53):
be pumping up, you know, Gino's tires and giving this
guy an extra you know, a couple of years or
extra you know, forty seventy five eighty million bucks.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
It's not going to get better on Sunday, he's zero
and five against the Niners.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, Milan brought that up this morning. He's oh and
five with a passer rating of eighty one, that this
is a big game for him. Well, let's ask our
next guest, Mike Florio.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
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Speaker 1 (04:36):
By the way, I was out there today picking up
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Speaker 2 (04:48):
I saw your anything that you like that?
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Huh?
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I just thought it was cool that a fifty one
year old white guy used the word dope on social media.
All right, Mike Florio, who is not a dope alas,
but he looks dope every day I see him on TV.
Here he is from Pro Footballtalk dot Com, the NFL, NBC,
the CAG How dare you of all NFL media, our
friend Michael Florio, how are you men?
Speaker 6 (05:10):
Good afternoon?
Speaker 8 (05:11):
Butthole and butthole sub buttholes.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Hey, buddy, let me ask you a question about Geno Smith.
Are you prepared tonight if you have to, which you don't,
But let's just dance with me here to give Gino
Smith an extension that he so desperately seeks when his
contract ends after next year. Does he look like the
kind of guy that John Schneider is going to want
to sign to a forty million dollar a year deal.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
No, No, And I love Geno Smith, former West Virginia quarterback,
a picture of resilience, overcoming adversity, being ruined by the Jets,
resurfacing and becoming a middle of a pack starting quarterback.
And when you start listing all of the better quarterbacks,
you get down to fifteen, sixteen, seventeen before you get
to him, which is fine, which is fine. Not everyone
(05:56):
can be top five. If you have every one in
the top five, you got thirty guys in the top five,
so that's fine. He's got a contract that takes him
a fair rate, around twenty five million a year. They
trumpet up when they leak the initial numbers, as they
always do. He wanted a new contract in the offseason
because basically it's a year to year deal, and they
did year one. At the end of year one, they
decided they keep it for year two. They restructured it,
(06:17):
and now they're in year two. They've got one more year.
They control his rights. There's not a damn thing he
can do, and he's making more money than he ever
could have dreamed. He was going to make base on
the way his career started, so he can help and puff,
but he's not blown anyone's house down.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
He's not going to hold out.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Now, you wann't your quarterback to be happy. If the
quarterback's not all in, you can have a problem. But
he needs to be all in if he wants to
get paid somewhere else. And he does plan to keep playing.
He told me a couple of weeks ago after they
beat Atlanta. He wants to play like eight more years.
He wants to play into his forties, and he believes
he can. Whether or not it's with the Seahawks remains
to be seen. He's got good moments, he's got bad moments.
It's just like the Seahawks all year long. They're too
(06:53):
inconsistent and they have to at some point become consistently
good or consistently bad, or it's just going to be
this roller up and down for the rest of the year.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Mike, you wrote about Dion today.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Do you think an NFL team will reach out and
do you think he's a better fit in the NFL
or college football?
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Well, he had said in the past he's not interested
in coaching in the NFL, and he alluded to the
fact that the guys in the NFL are making a
ton of money. Well, the guys in college at the
highest level of a programer making a ton of money
now too. I don't think he would rule it out
if somebody came calling with the money that goes along
with being an NFL head coach. And I don't think
(07:32):
it's as crazy as it sounds to give him a truck.
The traditional route has produced plenty of bad coaches over
the years. You take a coordinator and you elevate him
to head coach, he's never been a head coach before.
Maybe he doesn't know what he's doing when it comes
time to take over an entire football operation. Darren Rizzy,
the interim coach of the Saints, who was a special
(07:53):
teams coordinator for years and years before he got a
chance to take over the Saints for the rest of
the season. He told me after they beat the Falcons
this past weekend, and he thinks that owners in gms
don't consider special teams coordinators because they want to make buzz,
they want to win the press conference. Well, if you
want to win the press conference, Deon Sanders is going
to help you win the press conference. You put a
good staff around him, you let him be the CEO
of the team. And I think it's worth a shot,
(08:13):
because again, plenty of teams have done plenty worse over
the years and it doesn't work, you just move on,
like the Jaguars did with Irban Meyer.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
What do you make of this story that he's going
to control where Shador and Travis Hunter end up in
the draft and how likely is it that he can
succeed in doing that.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Well, first of all, it's about time somebody pushes back
against the draft industrial complex act like it's the Harry
Potter sworting hat, where it's your destiny based upon where
you're picked, and you should be thrilled. It's an honor
and a privilege. Well it's not honored in privilese. If
you go to a bad team with a bad owner
and a bad GM and a bad coach and a
bad roster in your career gets ruined, like the Jets
over the years, from Geno Smith to Sam Darnold to
(08:51):
maybe Zach Wilson if he ends up becoming a better quarterback,
if he ever gets a chance to play again. So
I think it's overdue, and it's like the NFL's version
of Haley's calm. At every twenty one years, it happens.
It happened in eighty three, which John Elway had happened
at four with Eli Manning. It's due to come around again.
And the key is you need someone who can run
public interference for you, because if you get perceived as
(09:14):
a guy who is standing up, who is daring to
stand up to the draft system, you get flagged as
a troublemaker, a malcontent. The fans don't like you, and
if you don't work out, you never hear the end
of it, just like Caleb Williams here and now about
how there was a suggestion from last summer that he
was looking for a piece of equity in whatever team
(09:34):
drafted him. Hey, there's nothing wrong with that. When you've
got leverage, when you can say to a team, no,
thank you, I won't come sign with you if you
draft me, there's nothing wrong with that. The problem is
fans don't like if they want players to fully and
unconditionally submit to wherever they're drafted, whatever spot it is,
however bad the team might be.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Mike, I have you gotten a feel for this opponent
of the Seahawks on Sunday, the forty nine Ers, Because
I don't. I can't figure out whether they're a Super
Bowl contending team or a team that's going to struggle
to make the playoffs. We're seeing Deebo Samuel whacking his uh,
choking his long snapper.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I mean, what is going on there? By the way,
that sounds so by disgusting. He's choking his long snapper.
Jeez man, wow wow, really yeah yeah, he listen butthole, Seriously,
you're gonna cut me with really get out of here
with that, Okay, So the.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Forty nine ers are a fascinating case study and whether
to what extent they can get healthy and stay healthy enough.
They have Christian McCaffrey back, they're stacking wins. They're in
a division that, as you guys know, is wide open.
Although they have lost to the Cardinals and they've lost
to the Rams, games they should have won playing with
their food like the Chiefs tend to do and let
teams come back when a big lead is built. So
(10:40):
they just need to keep piling together and piecing together
win after win. But it really is comical that number
one Deebo did what he did and number two Kyle
Shanahan tried to downplay it. I mean, I know he's
got to try to downplay it, but it's just laughable
because it's not like this happens all the time. Once
or twice a year we get some sort of older case,
(11:00):
and I can't remember a time that somebody actually put
his hand on a teammate's throat. I remember Kevin Gilbright
getting punched in the face by Buddy Ryan. But the
fact that there aren't many of those tells you how
rare it is that Deebo did what he did. And
we're going to be talking about it for years to come.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Mike Florio's with us is Russell Wilson back is mister
unlimited back.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
I don't know, you tell me. Look at what he does.
And I love the contrast between him and Aaron Rodgers,
with Mike Williams as the pivot between the two because
number one, whatever you say about Russell Wilson, however you
want to criticize him for being corny, you're the mister
unlimited thing. And he can be goofy, and he's too
goody good, and he was always viewed as management, not
part of the rank and file with the Seahawks. He
(11:46):
throw all that out.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
He would never ever ever.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Criticize the teammate publicly the way that Aaron Rodgers did
when he called out Mike Williams for running the wrong
route not Monday night game against the Buffalo Bills. And
Russell Wilson trusts his receipt and he's not obsessed with
his stats. Only want stat matters points scored and points allowed.
Aaron Rodgers I think overly obsessed with completion percentage and
touchdown the interception ratio, because that's how he distinguishes himself
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from the quarterbacks who have won more Super Bowls than
he has, so he doesn't trust these guys. I love
it how Russell Wilson will just grow how many quarterbacks
that the Steelers have to go through before they found
a guy who recognized I just need to throw it
in the general vicinity of George Pickens and everything will
be fine and lo and behold it works. So I
think it's great, and I'm going to be writing something
at PFT and I've mentioned this a couple of times
(12:33):
over the past day or so. At some point, the
Steelers have to wonder whether or not they break from
this stupid rule they have that they don't negotiate contracts
during football season, and maybe ask themselves, should we lock
Russell Wilson in for next year and maybe the year
after before the season ends, and we have to decide
whether or not to use the franchise tag or let
(12:53):
him see what's out there on the market, because the
way he's playing. Here's the answer with Russell Wilson, use
him the way he was us in Seattle. If you
use him that way, he can still be as good
as he was in Seattle. It's when you try to
do too much with him, and let him do too
much and do all the things that go on behind
the line of scrimmage before the play starts. That's not him.
Just let him go do his thing. Let Russ cook
(13:15):
and it's not about the predetermined recipe. It's about the
frying pan and what can dispatchelo once the heat's on.
And he's doing it in Pittsburgh and it's fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Jackson brought up a good point. We were talking about
the Colts in the in the break a few minutes ago,
he said, why didn't just the Colts just say they
benched Anthony Richardson for two weeks because he tapped out?
Why don't they just admit that that's what happened.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
I think that was part of it. I think there's
a broader maturity issue, and I think they wanted him
to get a wake up call. And you know, between
Bryce Young getting benched for a few weeks and coming
back and playing and now Anthony Richardson, it could be
the teams are rethinking this idea that once you put
a highly drafted quarterback on the field, you can never
go back, you can never bench him. It's gonna ruin him,
(13:56):
like John Elway got ruined when they played games with
him early in his career. Well, guess what, he ended
up winning a couple of Super Bowls and going to
a couple.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
More beyond that.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
So maybe it's not the ruination of a quarterback to
have to sit down and get that message and mature
to a certain extent. And I think this makes sense
because look, when the Colts lost the first two games
with Joe Flackler with quarterback, it's like, Okay, the goal
in putting in putting Flacco out there was we're trying
to win games to make it to the playoffs. We're
(14:24):
four and four, we can make a run. You lose
two games, Like, hey, if we're going to lose, let's
at least give this guy reps. He's got to get
to his ceiling. He can do great things. Peter King
always quotes Bill Walsh as saying, if I see a
guy do something once, I can coach him how to
do it all the time. When you see the best
of the best of Anthony Richardson, it's amazing. He needs opportunities,
he needs repetitions, he needs coaching so he can do
(14:46):
his best stuff on a consistent base.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, Mike, before you go, the Bears firing Shane Waldron,
and I'll be honest with you, all of us here
in Seattle thought it was almost a joke that he
got hired there. They're going to allow this guy to
be in charge, Caleb Williams, Are you a kid?
Speaker 9 (15:01):
Me?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Guy's got less personality than this microphone I'm talking into
right now. And by the way, just so you know,
the Shane Waldron has been hired as the offensive coordinator
story from the Bears website is gone. It doesn't exist anymore.
You can't even look at it, for God's sakes. But
what did you make of that firing in Chicago?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Well, I look at it, and I say, how is
anything going to get any better by changing offensive coordinators
nine games into the season, nine games into the career
of Caleb Williams. Unless there really was some high level
dysfunction that they truly believe had to end and Shane
Waldron had to go, And it's going to improve under
Thomas Brown. But I just think this is a stopover
on the way to firing Maddy Verflus the head coach
(15:41):
and hiring an offensive guy to be the head coach.
This is the problem. You have a young quarterback with
a high draft pedigree, if you have a defensive coach
and an offensive coordinator who is the number one conduit
for that quarterback. If things go well, he's going to
be gone. He's going to be a head coach somewhere else.
The things don't go well, he's going to be gone.
And then you get into an Alex Smith situation where
(16:02):
the guy's got a different offensive coordinator every year for
seven years. I want Sean Payton and Drew Brees. I
want head coach from quarterback joined at the hip together
for ten years. If it works, that's what the Bears
need to do. Next year, we'll see if they do it.
We'll see if they realize that's what they need to do.
But it feels like that's the direction. It's movement.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Mike, you're the man. Great stuff. Love you talking a week.
See you, Thanks, Mike.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
All right, Mike Florio with us Factor Fiction. It's Wednesday,
It's Jackson's Day. We'll dive more into this Geno conversation.
By the way, I seem to remember Mike Florio making
a proclamation about Geno Smith back in August that made
people lose their fricking minds. We should revisit that a
little bit. Coming up on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
Love from the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick on your Home for
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three kjr FM.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
All right, Factor fix, brat to you by the aermo
Queak and see you know, come on up in five
minutes for actually four minutes and twenty six, twenty five,
twenty four.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Punting like you are.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
No, I'm not funning at all. I did my research
on the Louisiana Monroe Auburn game. I jumped all over
that Sunday night, was burning the midnight oil, breaking it down,
and I felt very good about my selection. I might
even bet the house on Monroe actually winning the game,
to be honest with you, that's how good I feel
about it.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
You know, when they win or cover, you're gonna have
a lot to apologize for. Pass Well, it's literally.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
A fifty to fifty shot because you absolutely did the
Roulette wheel and then just pointed at your computer screen.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Jackson's got it. He's fired up for Factor fiction.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Hey, does anybody remember when Mike Florio was on this
show over the offseason and had the audacity to come
on the air and put Geno Smith in a category
of quarterback that some people did not think he belonged in.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
He is lower third right now the National Football League,
but he's starting quarterback in the NFL. And the Seahawks
aren't about high flying passing offense. So they signed your
Deck contract in twenty twenty three. That was hyped as
a three year, one hundred million dollars deal. It was
a three year, seventy five million dollar deal, and it's
a year to year proposition. I think until you have
(18:16):
a franchise quarterback, And that's how I always describe it.
These three types of teams in the NFL, teams that
have franchise quarterbacks, teams that don't, and teams that have
a guy they're not quite sure what they have, so
they're keeping their eyes open for a potential franchise quarterback.
And that's what I think the Seahawks are.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
People absolutely lost their minds when Florio said that. I
tweeted that out. People went ballistic. He's an idiot, He's
got no idea what he's talking about. To get this
guy off the air, he's a bum. You and I
were arguing on the air versus like twentieth versus twenty third, Like,
what the hell's the difference? We're literally fighting over the
tallest dwarf on the air. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
What do we think now? How about that?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Because Gino Smith has the twenty third best QBR in
the National Football League? Smith is behind guys like Bo Nicks,
Sam Darnold, Drake may and Baker Mayfield. And look, I
think he's a little bit of a better quarterback than that.
To be honest, I think we got.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
To take the guys that have only started like four
games out of there. Justin Fields is ahead of Gino Smith.
You can't put Justin Fields in a QBR discussion four games,
and I didn't mention Justin Fields. Joe how many starters?
Joe Flacco out.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Six starts, Drake May's got six, Jordan Love's got seven,
Baker Mayfield's got ten. I mean, look, dude, Dick, here's
the point. I don't think that what Mike Florio said
in August was remotely ridiculous, and I think a lot
of people would agree with that more today than they
did maybe a couple of months ago, including you. So
we got to figure out what we have in Gino
Smith here. Do we have a franchise quarterback in Gino Smith?
(19:47):
I don't think we do. But do we have a
quarterback in Gino Smith that can be the answer for
this team while they find the next Have any of.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Us ever thought we had a franchise quarterback round?
Speaker 6 (19:56):
No Smith?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
No, But people never change. But there are people out
there who believe that still.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And there's also people out there who went crazy when
Mike Florio had the.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Didn't like it to say he was bottom third.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I didn't like it, and I still don't think he's
I still don't think he's bottom third, but I will
say he's closer to the bottom of the second third
than he is to the top of the second third. Now,
he has been worse under this regime than he was
under Shane Waldron, and that's scary. And it's not all
offensive line. I had a long discussion about it when
(20:31):
you were gone on Friday with you. It is not
all offensive line. It is a lot on Gino Smith
and his decision making and his holding on to the football.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
What's a lot, What's a lot if we're breaking this down,
if we're just gonna pick two categories, GINO are line,
how much does the line get?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
How much does GINO get I'd almost go third third,
third grub line.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Now we're not doing that, we're doing talent. We're doing
offensive line in GINO. I give you two options, if
it's Gino or the line. Is it a Geno problem
or is it an offensive line?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Pretty close to fifty? Do you think it's fifty to fifty? Wow? Okay,
I think he's pretty close to him.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
He just makes unbelievably horrendous decisions right, and many where
he's not even pressured.
Speaker 10 (21:09):
Well, it's gonna say a lot of them are win.
I think he's pressured. And I saw I'm going seventy
thirty line to gym.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I just think I just wonder how much of this
is because he's playing behind that line, right, how much
that's got the guy seeing goes, how much it's got
him doing things he otherwise would not do because of
the line he's playing behind. Uh factor fiction brought to
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Speaker 1 (21:55):
I have never seen Jackson that's excited for a selection.
He's dressed it up, god props, He's got all kinds
of cool stuff. It's Wednesday, it's factor fiction, It's Jackson's Day.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
What do you got?
Speaker 10 (22:05):
We actually have a phone call ready to get to
here because I think I told you in the break
you're gonna love this pic. You love a home underdog,
do and you also love the Pittsburgh Steelers. I do.
They are getting three at home to the Baltimore Ravens.
And if you don't believe me, and if you don't
believe Dick who loves the Pittsburgh Steelers, then believe the
guy who's on the phone right now.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
Hey, guys, Russell here, Yes, the typical boring, Yes, Russell,
the robot Russell one does love to know a real,
real exciting you know, I'm real exciting. But anyways, Uh,
everybody has to have an ulter ego, right, And I've
been thinking about what my alter ego would be.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
And I think I have an alter ego.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
His name.
Speaker 9 (22:43):
His name's mister, mister, mister unlimited.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
You gotta be.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
Unlimited, you know.
Speaker 9 (22:49):
They gotta have a thought process of being unlimited. So
when people ask you, you know, what you're thinking about,
or what you want to do in life or where
you want to go, you gotta be unlimited. Tell him
I'm a limited, you know what I mean. So when
they ask you certain questions like brity motivation, mister unlimited,
Russell unlimited, who was.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Your go to person for advice?
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Russell? They think Pete Carol, they think this person, think
that person, love you, Pete.
Speaker 9 (23:19):
But it's mister unlimited.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
First of all, let me just tell you real quick.
When you first played that, I didn't realize that was
the original mister unlimited post. I thought, Oh, good for
him for finally making fun of himself. Nope, that's from
three years ago. That was amazing, mister Limited. By the way,
new idea for a bracket during the summer Top eight
Dorks and Sports right, now Russell's the one seed, Mike
(23:44):
Benton two seed.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
All right, I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Sorry, Mike, all right, Jackson, finish it.
Speaker 10 (23:50):
Up, come on, alright, So Pittsburgh Steels. Listen, there is
a thought to this. It's very funny to hear that.
But the Steelers, I think are a very very good
football team. They're getting points at home against the Ravens.
Ravens have been up and down this season, but I
think Pittsburgh is flying underneath.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Mister right, So we're taking to Pittsburgh plus three three, okay.
I like it on the surface, A little bit concerning
about the fact that the bubble is going to burst
at some point. It's won three in a row, a
four in a row. I think I'm limited, though, you okay,
you're right. Let's get let's all get in the mindset.
Let's all getting the unlimited mindset. Mister U limited taking
(24:24):
Pittsburgh at the points. It was on my list at
three and a half, not only at three. So he
get a lost for a field goal, but it's still
I still like it.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
And Jackson Mike Tomlin as a home underdog against the
spread in his career nineteen six and three.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I like that nineteen six and three when he's getting
points at home.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
So yeah, and these games are always super super tight,
so i'd be I think it's going to be a
three point game one way or the other. And we
win almost every scenario with a three point game absolutely.
Speaker 10 (24:53):
While we have a few seconds, can can I just
play one more thing?
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
In time when you come home at the church and
you realize that you knew great Dane. We've got three
of them, right to the little one. Little puppy has
pooped everywhere, all over his creat I show you all,
but I don't want to scare you. Diarrhea poop.
Speaker 11 (25:13):
Gotta take a little man to the bit unlimited diarrhea limit.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Why is that not a drop?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I gotta tell you, I thought that was a comedian
doing Russell Wilson because the voice changed again. He's got
all these different excess and I thought that was some
white guy doing we get the unlimited diarrhea F drop.
Speaker 11 (25:32):
Limited diarrhea limit to my happy place. She out heah,
prigging uh, trying to take a photo.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I think we have enough accents to Russell Wilson that
we could do top eight Russell Wilson access.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
In a bracket over the summer.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Honestly, all right, all right, I mean do you like
do you like gangster Russell.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
She out here prigging or do you like nerdy Russell?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Limit?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Which one do you like?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
All right? Pittsburgh on the Points factor fiction four nine
four five one get him in right now, Curtesy of
the Emeral Queen a little funnel audio slash, Hey did
you hear that?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
And then Petros.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Popacketh they gotta join us, coming up.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
At four o'clock.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
You can pop your head out of your button now
right here on ninety three three kJ arfm.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I Limited, Diarrhea I Limited. It's now time for something
in Digg's Fun with Audio. Jimmy g paunt Star Jimmy
mister garoppolo. Now let's have some fun with audio Alli.
Petro's gonna join us. Coming at four o'clock.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
We'll ask Kim what our concern meter should be for
the UCLA game over the weekend. All right, ran a
poll there day and it was sixty forty. Most people
kind of concerned about it in some former fashion. Petros
will join us. Next segment, Kevin Harlan coming up five
o'clock tonight on the radio. Show right now though a
little fun with audio slash. Hey did you hear that?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Hey, Dick? Did you happen here? What's that day? What's
that dick?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Syracuse football lost thirty seven thirty one to Boston College
last weekend first year head coach Fran Brown at Syracuse
at six and three, but at the press conference this week,
Brown outlined his postgame ritual following losses that is impacting
his behavior at home.
Speaker 12 (27:17):
Honestly, I got like a ritual, like when we lose,
I ain't even get in a shower till early this morning.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I just be mad.
Speaker 12 (27:23):
I just brush my teeth. But it's like I don't
deserve soap. I don't deserve to do all that. I
just I'm just focused on like trying to get back
and trying to make sure that our players mentally understand
and know that I let them down, that they didn't
do it.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
You know.
Speaker 12 (27:35):
I just wake up all night, Especially when you lose,
you like wake up like, dang, it really happened, you know,
I really happened that way. So it's just different pieces
and then I just move on. There's a process that
I follow every week. One loser draw only. Thing is
like my wife. I can't sleep in the bed if
we lose, cause I ain't gonna get in a shower
for that day. I'm just mad and I just sit there.
(27:57):
I just brush my teeth. That's what I have to do.
So y'all, I won't say my breasting, but I'm just
just kind of locked in a certain things, certain ways.
I think you got to you got to earn the
right to do certain things. So you know, winners get washed,
you know what I'm saying. Loser, I just kind of
waited a little bit.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Is he high on something? Might be? Uh, there's a
lot of unhealthiness what I just heard in that last minute.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Is he into like self flagellation or something or what's
he like? He doesn't deserve soap because he lost a
football game. Yeah, he doesn't need to be clean. He's
dirty and needs to live in his own filth and
show somebody out there that he's not worthy of cleansing himself.
I mean, there's something wrong with that guy. And the
(28:43):
really just Hey, he's trying to be funny and it
did not come across like that or be there's something
really wrong with it.
Speaker 10 (28:50):
Hold on so again, and he's talking about the loss
on Saturday, right, I believe I think from the clip
I got that from that that was from yesterday. He
said I didn't get in the shower until this morning.
That means he didn't shower Saturday night after the game,
all of Sunday or all of Monday. Yeah, And look,
coaches don't sweat as much as players do, but they
sweat more.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Certainly.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I used to work in restaurants back in the day
when I was like sixteen seventeen years old, and I'd
be so exhausted from working the dish pit at Billy
McHale's in Factory, I just go to bed. You know
what it's like to wake up after you've been washing
dishes for eight hours and you peel the sheets off
your skin. It's disgusting. And this guy's doing that on purpose. Well, oh,
you really showed them.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Coach.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
You've always talked about the lists that the eighties have,
right the coach the potential coaching list crossed him off.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
If I'm hearing that, I'm like, sorry, you're you're weird,
and you're off.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
My right, this guy here is stinky cross him off
the list. Yeah, that's just weird, man.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Maybe he's got something figured out that none of us know,
but whatever, all right, hey Dick, did you happen here?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
During a press conference last week, Washington State head coach
Jack Dickard, who I believe does shower, shared his feelings
about the team needing more home support at Martin Stadium.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
Bottom line, though, Greg is like, our fans need to
show up. I need to show up, like on third down,
It's got to be loud in there. It's got to
have a huge impact for what this team is doing
because we are where we're at and we need them,
and any edge that we can create as great momentum
for our football team, I think is gonna be very huge.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
So I haven't paid much attention to this.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I do know that a lot of Cougar fans have
been talking about this, that the attendance at Martin Stadium
has not been good this year. Correct, And I think
the number one reason why, according to a lot of people,
is the price of hotel rooms in Pullman. Apparently it's
ridiculous how much they're charging people. I would just say this,
go to Spokane. I mean, every time I've been to
an Apple Cup we've always stayed in spoken right. But
the problemly single time. W here's the problem with Spokane.
(30:43):
You don't know what time the game's going to be
until like ten days before the game, you know, then
get two nights and cancel the next one. Book two nights.
I mean, we stay at that Northern Quest casino every time.
It's like an hour drive. It's awesome flying a Spokane
drive to Spokane. Look, I mean, I'm not here to
just tell people to suck it up, because that's not
my style. But the capitalism that's happening in Pullman with
(31:05):
these hotel rooms is never going to change.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Ever.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, as long as people keep buying rooms, they'll keep
charging you up that.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
You know what, I heard something, because you know, I
have to watch all those games, I heard something on
the broadcast that I never hear a colored person say,
and that is Wow, this crowd's really disappointing. But I
found out that the color commentator was a Cougar, So
I guess a cougar, a former Cougar player probably adds
(31:32):
a little more, you know, a little more poll to
call the Cougar crowd disappointed.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I just get one more here, Hey, Dick, did you
happen to hear that? What's that? Dick three or four?
Speaker 6 (31:41):
Pick?
Speaker 13 (31:41):
On?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
All Right?
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Fox Sports radio host Doug Gottlieb Barpal joined the Athletics
Andrew Marshawn and his Main Event podcast last weekend and
took a shot at ESPN Steven A.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Smith for his debating style and lack of preparation.
Speaker 13 (31:53):
Stephen A has become a little bit too big for
his breeches. And you know, I think a lot of
those are artificial arguments. I respect how strong an orator
he is, how strong a personality is h and the
fact that he'll bring is stephen A to everything he does,
but I also think there's a level of prepperedness that
is missing.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
So you know he wants to be president?
Speaker 7 (32:15):
Right?
Speaker 8 (32:15):
Well?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, can you imagine him giving a State of the
Union speech? Jimmy gen Jimmy, mister garoppolo, I would not
provide obbs to Iran never.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Can you imagine that guy in a stated Dude, don't
tell me you wouldn't want.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I'd pay to see that. I'd pay to vote for him.
I'd give one hundred dollars to vote for him. Oh
my god.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Ten years ago I would have said, there's absolutely no chance,
and now.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
You never know what's gonna happen. We will not provide
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