November 5, 2025 • 34 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Mike Florio about two major quarterback injuries plus the trade deadline, then discuss Sam Darnold’s value to the Seahawks this season and beyond before getting Fact of Fiction and to Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where we go. I'm not rooting freaking Zagon in that game.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm just gonna go into that thing like Switzerland with
just like a poker face. And like Jackson said, hope
the roof caves in at the arena for everybody to
the roof cave in before the game, before there's people
in the arena and it just gets canceled.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
There's nowhere to play.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
That'll interrupt Sonics and that a year from now. No,
I mean you're talking about push back the NBA's timeline.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Oh, you fix the roof pretty easily.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Just give him a couple of weeks, man, he's really
to take to fix the tiles at the Kingdome when
the tiles fell off like a couple of months or whatever.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I'm not rooting freaking Zaga.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Is that still a historical monumentause they have to build
a new one, so therefore it's no longer historic monum.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Know that means they have to tap emergency funds, man,
funds that would otherwise go to homeless people go to
fix the roof and climate plage arena. Remember when they
tried to they tried to landmark a Denny's and Ballard.
Is that still there by the way, No, that's not gone.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's gone. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
They tried to Landmark because of the roof. Yeah, some
weirdo save the clock tower. Some committee, we gotta save
the roof. It's an example of Martin Marvel architecture was good.
You know what, give me a super burden? Shut the
hell off, all right. I'm not ritten for Gonzeca, no way,
there's no, there's not.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
I had a chance one team in college back.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I thought I had a chance with you, and I
still want a chance. Jackson asked me if I root
for Gonzac.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Right, here's what we got, my Florio joining us in
about five minutes from now.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
We got to bring this up with Harlem.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
By the way, remember last week or was it two
weeks ago, we were kind of just having some fun.
I think we were kind of bored and out of
ideas on the radio show and like every day, Yeah,
pretty much.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I think we're there already.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
We gotta do this for four hours and Dick was
asking on the air, would you trade Sam Donald for
four first rounders? Remember that? And I said no. I
said I probably would not. I'd consider it, but my
first answer is no. Millan came on and said yes,
but it's not a definite no for me. You said
you would do it. You said you would trade Sam
Donald for four first.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
There's only two two players in football, Mahomes and Allen
and I wouldn't And.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
You said what I say, the show yes to four,
maybe not to three? Okay, And the answer is still no,
are yes to four first rounders?
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So we're gonna ask Kevin Harland at five o'clock tonight.
I want to get Kevin Harlan's take on.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
This because I firmly believe and I don't think I'm
breaking any new ground here with this take that starting
quarterback in the NFL is the absolute most important position
in professional sports and maybe even an amateur athletics who
your quarterback is. Look at what the Patriots are doing
right now with Drake May. I mean, we can go
all around the NFL, the bow Knicks, Dan Jones, but whatever, Okay,
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got guys, I gotta be honest with you. If you
got rid of Sam Darnold, and it's not going to
happen obviously, this is just a stupid for cocta Fantasy
Land topic that we're talking about here. If you got
rid of Sam Darnald. And let's say you draft four
guys in the first round. Let's say you draft three
guys in the first round to trade one for two
second round picks. It's a total of five rookies. Three
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of them turn out to be starters in the National
Football League. Two of them are bums. But you're still
looking for the quarterback because you get rid of Sam?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Then what then?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
What I mean the hardest thing to do, if we
can agree on that that the hardest thing to do
in sports has find a elite level quarterback in the NFL.
And I'm not saying that he's elite, elite, but I
think he's top fifth in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, don't you think right now? Yes, top fifth in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You've got one of the top six quarterbacks, six seven
quarterbacks in the NFL, and you.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Get rid of him. Good luck finding it again. Good luck?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Do you have those faith in John Schneider kind of
how we have faith in Jerry Depoto finding arms. John
Schneider has always been able to find a quarterback his
entire career with the Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
He has always been able to find it.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Okay, he's done it, He's done it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Twice with Russell and now Sam Darnold, unless you want
to consider Jame Hooker ga.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
In the end you wanted to get rid of you know, whoa.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Whoa Are we just forgetting that the dude traded a
third round pick for Charlie Whitehurst. Yeah, like, I'm sorry
they invested a third round pick in that bump.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And by the way, just be honest with yourselves.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
He's got no track record outside of Russell of drafting
quarterbacks zero zero.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
He hasn't had to run right, but he still hasn't
done it. You know, we don't know. That's kind of
an incomplete.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It has to be an incomplete because the guy, as
you said, Nick, he's never really tried. So I think
even more so when you have that guy who's a
top fifth quarterback in the National Football League. Man, we
should go to bed every night and get on our
hands and freaking knees and thank the sports gods that
Minnesota let this guy walk.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Honestly, like, where would they be? What what?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Let's paint an alternate reality. They'd be flipped where would
they be? Gino Smith would still be here yep, and
they'd be what four and four? And they'd be going nowhere. Yep,
Minnesota and Minnesota would be the Seahawks, and they may
have drafted a rookie.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That guy might be sitting behind Geno right now.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
But instead we'd be instead of being number one in
some people's power polls, which they are, we'd.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Be thinking about next year. He'd be done, season be over.
Forget it. We're not going anywhere. Mike Florio joins.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
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Speaker 1 (06:03):
Every Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You see him on TV on NBC, Pro Football Talk
dot Com PFT Live. Our friend, Michael Florio, how are you, man, Oh, gentlemen,
great to hear your voice again. Hey, before we get
into what's happening here in Seattle, I want to ask
you about their opponent on Sunday. I saw where the
Cardinals put Kyler Murray on the injured reserve list, and
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I seem to remember May and a lot of people
were pissed off at Arizona when they had that deal
in his contract that he had to watch a certain
amount of film every week. People even called it racist,
that they was embarrassing for him to have that in there.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
And then I found an article that I.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Think you wrote, Mike, where Kyler Murray himself admitted he
didn't watch film. And now he stinks he's on the
IR and people are actually happy that Jacoby Brissett is
starting for Arizona. So what does Kyler Murray's future look like?
Starting today?
Speaker 8 (06:56):
You think this is a strange situation because it was
just four days ago that Cardinal's coach Jonathan Gannon said
that Murray could have a role on Monday Night against
the Cowboy, and now he's gone into reserve. He really
is training. Look, he has a real injury and there's
a very significant risk of re injury. It's a foot,
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it's not a fracture, it's not a list Frank's frain.
But you know when you try to accelerate off of
that foot, it could put more pressure on it and
cause a problem. So they want him to be healthy.
He wants to be healthy. I think this is all
pointing toward divorce in the offseason. The question is do
they trade him or do they end up doing what
the Broncos had to do with Russell Wilson. Because there's
nineteen point five million, it becomes fully guaranteed the fifth
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day of the next league year, and that's the reason
to keep him in bubble wraps, to put him on
your reserve and leave him there and ride with Jacobe Rissett.
But I think the other side of this coint is
they don't want to make it look like they salad
on Kyler Murray. If they are going to try to
trade him, you want to try to get a good return.
And if teams sense that you're done with the guy,
they may lowball you to the point where where you
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do have to cut him. So the other thing that
is covering all over it. They've been curiously transparent over
the past week or so about Murray's status, going above
and beyond what the injury report requires. And look, no
one's going to come out and admit it, but I
wouldn't be surprised if the truth was the NFL was
telling certain teams behind the scenes, don't play games. Announce
who your start is going to be. Don't do this
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back and forth guessing game for strategic game, because it
creates an important piece of inside information. It can be
abused and misused.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Mike, on your broadcast on Sunday night, the Seahawks obliterated
the Commanders. How much of what you saw was the Seahawks?
How much was it the Commanders and the dan Quinn
issue taking leaving Jayden Daniels in how much heat should
he be getting?
Speaker 8 (08:45):
Look, I think it was some of both, and the
Seahawks will clearly be a better team. But as Mike
Commins said after the Steelers somehow beat cults on Sunday.
In this business, you go from drinking wine one week
to squashing grapes to the next. And it's just a
handful of plays that can spark a runaway. And you
make a play here, you make a play there early,
and all of a sudden, it's the two score game,
it's the three score game. And it was over the
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issue with Dad and Daniels and well, hear so much
about analytics. I think all of these mats PhDs that
are in every front office at this point, he need
do a formula as to when you hit the kill
switch on the starting quarterback, either when you're ahead or
when you're behind. You got to play it smart because
at that point it's basically a preseason game, and how
much do we see starters playing the preseason. Get him
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off the field. For quarterback, the less you get hit,
the less likely you'll get hurt. And I preach all
the time about quarterbacks. You got to know when to
avoid contact. Well, the coaches have to know when to
get him the hell off the field, and that is
an important obligation for a head coach. And initially Dan
Quinn danced around it and didn't answer it, but when
he talked to reporters on Monday, he admitted that he
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screwed up. My guess is he was told to know
on certain terms by people above in the organization. You
screwed up, and you cost us our franchise quarterback and
there season's basically over.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Now, what'd you make of the yet sending Sauce to
the Colts for two first round draft picks. Good move
for both teams, good move for one team. What's your
end result on that thing?
Speaker 8 (10:09):
Well, the Jets were resisting a fire sale, and when
you look at what a fire sale technically is, it's
everything must go. We're done, it's over. And they got
great value for Sauce guard and the two first round picks,
and then Quinton Williams the first round pick, a second
round pick, and they got a player from each of
the two teams they did business with. So the Jets
basically got an offer that they wouldn't refuse. And they
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saw this possibility coming. They structured the Sauce Gardener contract
so it wouldn't create an, you know, an over the
top salary cap consequence next year. One of the reasons
Miles Barrett wasn't getting traded by the Brown sixty three
million dead money next year. Well, for South Gardener, it's
eleven million, and it's only eight point twenty five million
more than what it was otherwise going to be for
a signed bonus allocation. They only paid him fourteen million,
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So they they set the table. They make him happy,
but they set the table for being able if they
get an offer, they don't want to refuse to take it.
So it looked like a win win. You know, he
fits better in his own defense, like the culture run
not necessarily a man defense. And the Jets get pieces
where they if they use them properly. I mean, that's
the other side of this. You got to use those
picks properly. They got five first round picks over the
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next two years. Their position to rebuild this thing. We'll
see what they do. But it made sense for both teams,
and it was a stunner, and you know, it gave
a nice little jolt to the last few hours of
the trade period.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, Mike, it seems like the football deadline used to
be crickets and now it seems more like the baseball
trade deadline. Is that kind of how you understand it,
and if so, why is that?
Speaker 8 (11:37):
Well, I think it's different every year, and some years
we have greater expectations based upon all of the reporting
that's done ahead of time. There were a lot of
trades that happened well before the deadline. You know, you
see a need, you make a call, and you do
a deal. If there's a deal to be made, it
takes two sides. One of the realities is it takes
the full nine weeks to fully crystallize who's buying and
who's selling. And even then, some of the teams that
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should have been buying, they don't want to give up
what they think is too much by way of future
assets to get help. Now, you know, Steelers fans are
upset they didn't do anything to make the team better.
Fans of other teams, the forty nine Ers fans, they're
up in arms. They didn't do anything. But it is
a delicate balance. How much of the future do you
mortgage to go get a guy that may not be
part of the future. It may just be a rental
for the rest of the year. So I think that
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that those are factors that hey, as the trade go.
The Rashid Shaheed trade. That's the hell of a deal
for the Seahawks because you know, it's hard to plug
a receiver in in the middle of the season. But
he already knows the system, he knows the verbage, he
knows the coordinator. You know, he's gonna go from New
Orleans Seattle across the country and be expected to play
right away. But having that connection makes it a lot easier.
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And now defense is going to have to defend every
blade of grass because you're gonna have Shaheed stretching everything
deep and it opens up all the stuff underneath. Pro
jacting Simith and jig Ben Cooper Cuff. I mean, that's
I think sneaky, like great win now all in kind
of a move by Seattle.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Well, it's funny you mentioned Supercup there, Mike, because a
lot of us think that one of the reasons why
they made this deal is because they're not relying on
Cooper Cup as much. He's banged up, he's thirty two
years old, he's not producing like he used to. How
much of this trade was made because of their maybe
kind of concern about his injury and his future at
his age versus, Hey, let's just get as many missiles
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on the offense as we can find.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
I think it's apples an orange is because of the
skill set she head has, because of what a guy
with his speed can do to pull the safeties away
from all the underneath zones and dead spots where receivers
can go and have some room to maneuver and not
have to worry about the ball getting picked off, the
pass being broken up, or the guy getting tackled as
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soon as he catches the ball. That's where she heat
makes a difference. And I saw that. Mike McDonald said
today that he'll contribute in the return day and that's
how he first made his mark in New Orleans. But
once they decided this guy could be a good receiver,
they got him away from that. He was an All
Pro returner his second season. He basically stopped turning in
year three. It looks like he's going to be doing
both as they try to get the most out of
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his deal.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Can we learn anything from the Chiefs Bills matchup or
will the Chiefs just do what they always do in
January and overcome a loss earlier to the Bills by
beating the Bills?
Speaker 8 (14:14):
Well? Yeah, I mean, look, that's the reality and I
think this is a very important human dynamic that is
relevant in all sports. In any competitive venture, you get
in certain situations where the sphincter Titans and when the
Bills gets the postseason, if they cross paths with the
Chiefs again, they're going to have the weight of the
world on their shoulders. The fact that they accomplished whatever
they accomplished this year to put themselves in position to
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play that game, and then every past year against the
Chiefs all the way back to the four straight Super
Bowl appearances that most of those guys weren't even born for.
That pressure just becomes insurmountable and you can't be loose
and make that play. There's five plays a game that
make a difference. You can't make that play when that
play matters. I think that's important. But the every thing
about this game, the stakes were the highest for both
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teams that they had ever been for a chie the
Bills regular season games since they started crossing paths every
year in twenty twenty, because both teams won the division
every single year. Well, now look at where the Chiefs are.
They're in third place, a game behind the Chargers, who've
already beaten the Chiefs. Once two games behind the Broncos,
the Chiefs are gonna have to pull an inside straight
here to win the division. And at some point if
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they don't start stacking wins, and you know, it's kind
of sputtering, they win one and we think they're back,
then they lose one. Then they win one and we
think they're back, and then they lose one. They got
to put a streak together here, because there's no way
these dominoes fall. You look at I mean, I mean,
you've got Patriots Bills wild card there, the team that
doesn't win the division, You've got Broncos Chargers wild card there.
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And then if the Jaguars, who hold the tiebreaker against
the Chiefs and are five and three, if they win
enough games, they may edge the Chiefs out from making
the playoffs at all. And that's almost incomprehensible that the
Chiefs wouldn't make the playoffs. But if they don't start
putting some wins together, they're going to be in that
mix the last three weeks where they're looking at, we
need this to happen, this to happen, this to happen,
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this to happen, or we're not getting in.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Got I'm looking at the Patriots, Mike before you go.
I'm just curious if you're buying what's happening out there.
I think, Dick, you took the Buccaneers on Factor Fiction
this week, right, So even if Tampa or the Patriots lose, Mike,
there're seven and three. Then they got the Jets, Bengals, Giants. Geez,
they can win all three and be a ten win team.
Then Bill's Ravens lose those two, your ten and five
Jets Dolphins to end, you're a twelve win football team.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
It's incredible how soft their schedule has been.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So are you buying this as a product of their
schedule or are the Patriots?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Is the roster really that.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
Good so you can't control the schedule. I think back
to the nineteen ninety nine Greatest Show on Turf, the Rams,
the year that they won the Super Bowl. Their schedule
was as soft as it could be. But you know
what happens when you play a soft schedule. You start
winning games, you start feeling better about yourself, you start
gaining confidence, you develop an aura. And that's what happening
with the Patriots. Drake met consider this, and this came
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from NBC Sports Research. They put together a packet for
us every week. If I actually can, you know, muster
the attention span to read it. There's some good stuff
in there. Drake May is only the fourth guy to
have eight straight games with two hundred or more yards
passing and a passer rating of one hundred or higher.
There's only three other guys who have done it. Aaron
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Rodgers did it twice, Peyton Manning did it once, Tom
Brady did it once, and every time those guys did it,
they were the NFL MVP. That's the kind of season
that Drake made is kind of quietly putting together high
completion percentage, efficient offense, reliable to score points. The defense
does enough. Mike Brabel's a great coach. There was no
denying that the Titans never should have fired him. And
it's all working out perfectly for the Patriots. And there's
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a nice little break between the Brady Patriots and the
Drake May Mike Grabel Patriots where I don't think they're
going to feel that pressure because it really isn't a
team standing in the shadows of the Patriots dynasty.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Mike Florio great stuff. We'll talking a week. Appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
Man.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Thanks Mike, Big Guy.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
All right, Mike Florida with us on the radio program.
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He will join us and give us his selection one
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I guess involving the Mariners Jorge Polonko declining a six
million dollar option so he will become a free agent.
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I just noticed that a Pro Football Focus came out
with their midseason All Pro team. You see who their
MVP is, by the way of the NFL, Sam Dow
Jackson Smith and Jigba is the offensive player of the year,
Sam Donald, Mvowels of the National Football League. And you
knuckleheads want to trade the guy really for draft picks?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Who wants to trade?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
You said you'd do it. Did you not hear yourself
in the first segment.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
There's a difference between wanting to trade Sam Donald and saying,
if you got four first round picks for your quarterback,
would you trade him?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I just said that. I just said that.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
You just said I wanted to trade first round draft picks.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
You admitted that you want to trade Dick wants to
trade the MVP of the NFL for four first round
draft picks Jackson. Guys, come on, we got it. We
gotta realize what we have here, and this could fall
apart like tomorrow right like he could turn into a pumpkin.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I doubt it.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I doubt it. I think he's here to stay. I
think he is absolutely here to stay. I think he
is the franchise quarter back of the Seahawks for the
next probably five or six seven years.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I think we got nothing to worry about.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I think it's going to be go time for the
Hawks in regards to a super Bowl window for half
a decade because of Number fourteen.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
That's what I think.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
I don't think you're wrong.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
But I'll also give you another list of guys that
I would trade for four first round draft picks, Justin Herbert,
Lamar Jackson, Matthew Stafford, Jared Goff, Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
I would not trade Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
I would rather have Mahomes than fourth first round and
I'd rather have Josh Allen. But those are the only
two players in the league. I said that two weeks ago.
I'll say it again. There's two players in the league
that I think are so transcendent first ballot Hall of
famers and are going to finish their career on the
Mount Rushmore because I think Josh Allen wins probably multiple
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Super Bowls before it's all said and done. I am
that big on Josh Allen. That is the type of player,
and only that type of player that I'd rather have
than for What.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Did the Rams get when they traded Eric Dickerson to
the Colts.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Remember that deal?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, in eighty seven, they got three first rounders and
they got two first rounders so go back and tell
me what the Rams got in the Eric Dickerson trade.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Tell you right now.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
And I'm wondering what those players turned into for LA
because I think my point is this, and this is
obviously just a kakamami conversation because it's never going to happen.
First of all, it's not even legal in NFL terms.
You can't even trade for first rounders. I'm not even
sure if you can trade three first rounders. We know
you can trade two casas Gardner just went yesterday for
two first round draft picks. But you're talking about giving
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up a guy who is giving you the answer to
the hardest thing to find in professional sports, and I
think turning that around for absolute unknown commodities. Unless you
can move some of those picks for another established quarterback
from a different football team and then add to the
team with those first round draft picks, I think you
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got a better chance of taking a step back, Dick,
then you do a step forward when you give up
the quarterback. When you give up a guy like this,
you have a better chance of regressing than you do progressing,
even if you have all that draft capital, because you've
got the burden hand already it's done.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
So that's what makes me nervous.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And look, obviously we're just having some fun here with this,
but I think it's incredible what Sam Darnold's done. Like,
you know, we'll talk to Kevin about this later on today.
The guy's twenty and five in his last twenty five
regular season starts, and he looks good. Like this is
not a guy that's just he does along for the ride.
He's not here just managing the office.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
I just think, I mean, I totally agree with you
that that I think he has done enough already to
cement the fact that he should be the starting quarterback
for at least the rest of his decade, right, I mean,
I think, And I'm actually surprised because I didn't think
i'd be able to say that after watching him play
eight games. I thought I'd at least need the entire
first season, if not into the second season, to say, yeah,
(23:04):
I think he's our guy, or no, I don't think he's.
So I've been incredibly impressed with what he has.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
So here's here's what the just for giggles is what
the Rams got in the In the trade. They got
running backs Greg Bell and Owen gil remember Owen Gil
plus six draft picks, three first rounders and three second
rounders for Eric Dickerson. Okay, those draft picks were used
to select Gaston Green wide receiver Aaron Cox, linebacker Fred
(23:31):
Strickland running back, Cleveland Gary linebacker Frank Stams, and defensive
back Darryl Henley. That's what they got with those draft picks. Now,
it doesn't mean that you can't find a way to
get some stars and get lucky, but that's what they got, and.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
That's for a freaking running back. Can you imagine the horror?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Is also almost forty years ago.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Of course, but still you're you're still drafting guys and
scouting guys like you are now. Can you imagine the
horror if you gave up Sam Darnold and got that
mess in return.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Down the road five years later? You're like, what?
Speaker 11 (24:04):
I think?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Another thing that we have not talked about yet is
the salary and implications of having all those first round
wrap picks. I mean that those are minimum for starters,
if not more. If you turn him into second third picks,
that becomes starters that you're not paying anything.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I gotta be honor, man.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I'm a little bit surprised that you haven't come off
that this at all since we brought But I don't
want you to make me sound like I'm Sam Barnold. Hay,
that's not unfair. I thought I thought you would have
come off here. Let's I would trade him for four
first rounders thing. I thought from a couple of weeks ago,
you would have moved maybe a little bit to my side,
And it sounds like you have moved there. That's a
philosophy thing. All right, let's got to break factor fiction
(24:41):
right now?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Where's that to go? Glad you're with us.
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Speaker 2 (25:03):
Al Right, here we go. I'd like to update the
standings for factor fiction. Of apparently Andrews is the only
one here that knows how to do that, But to
wait until he gets back from Hawaii. By the way,
imagine Andrews in a speedo on waiky Key Beach. It's
on Malley, by the way, SPF fifty all that whatever.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
He's picked a good time gering himself up outside.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
It's Jackson's day, it's Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
He's writing a one game winning streak with no help
from us whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Ian.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
By the way Jackson acts alone, he's his own man,
trying to make it a two game winning streak.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
What do you got, big boy?
Speaker 5 (25:36):
We're out on time.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I'll be quick.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Colts minus six and a half against the Falcons in Berlin.
They got Sauce Carter, They're feeling good about themselves, and
they're not gonna lose too straight after losing the Pittsburgh
I think, well, I mean, it's a man defenses for
you was talking about. Should be able to go into
that system and easily just cover whoever's on his side.
I think Jonathan Taylor Daniel Jones are great. So give
(25:58):
me Colts minus six and a half.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Got the game was in Germany?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Yeah, it's one game.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I forgot the game was for both teams. Okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I mean I liked it ten minutes ago when I
thought the game was it Lucas Oil. I don't like
it as much now that I find out it's in Germany.
But I'm gonna roll with you because I believe in you. Okay,
Colts minus the points is the pick?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
You like it? Fact, I hate it. Fiction to four
nine four, five to one.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
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Speaker 5 (26:28):
I like Jackson, He's my friend, That's what I'll say
about that.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But you're a moron like Jackson. Now hammer them, come
on go, he need take it. He's got thick skin.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
The Falcons have lost three games in a row, and
I think they're a better team than their record, indicase
they lost by one at New England on Sunday one
at New England.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Well, if there were better games presented for me, stupid.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I gave you the one I'm gonna take tomorrow, iOS
my pick.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
For the most too late now to you ands And
you also offered me the Cowboys on Monday and they
got destroyed by Arizona.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Okay, that was your idea, Dick, that was his idea.
I wanted the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
He's like, He's like you, you take the Cowboys and
take the Ravens tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
There drop, guess what happened?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Man?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
The freaking midday show. Took the Ravens. For God's sakes,
they're gonna win, all right. We're taking the Cults minus
the points in Germany over Atlanta. Pennis always plays terrible internationally.
By the way, yes it should work out, yeah, four
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next on ninety three three kJ r f M.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
It's now time for someday in Diggs one with audio
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Speaker 1 (27:39):
Pawn Star, Jimmy mister Daropolo. Now let's have some fun
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Speaker 2 (27:45):
All right, boys and girls, We're back on a What
the hell is this Wednesday afternoon? Right here on ninety
three three kJ r f M. A rainy, soggy Wednesday afternoon.
I was watching Fox thirteen this morning. Our gala, Abby
Acny says it's gonna be terrible tonight were her words.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
By the way, so be prepared.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Every minute of this day has looked like it's like
seven thirty in the morning, Like it has never gone
to even like a four on a brightness scale of
one detention.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I think there's just I think they're getting this ready
for the Badger game. By the way, on day to
the atmosphere, they see it might snow maybe in the
fourth quarter, second half of that game.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
On Saturday, I.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Was talking to Matt Lape by the way, who is
the play by play voice of the Badgers, and I said, look, man,
we were kind of looking forward to coming out there
and seeing Camp Randall at its best. Will we see
Camp Randall at its best on Saturday? He said, no,
so it's gonna be. It's gonna be a weird atmosphere,
but going out there.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
We haven't really seen Husky Stadium in it's best the
last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
No, we really haven't. But you know what, I got
to be honest with you real quick. I've been pretty
impressed with the student section. Man, they have been there
all year long. All right, let's do it a little
fun with audio.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Here we go. Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear
that today? What's that? Dick? Where do you want to start?
Jackson one? All right?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Monday night ESPN's Manning cast of the Cardinals Cowboys, Charles
Barkley joined Peyton and Eli and had some details exposed
about his underwear behavior.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
I was doing research for tonight and Chugg is it true?
Speaker 9 (29:12):
And you've burned all of your underwear almost twenty years
ago and haven't worn any sex.
Speaker 12 (29:19):
Yeah, I realized that underwear would they were not a necessity,
so I had a it was a big fire to Peyton. Uh,
so I'm always going commanche is a comanche.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Commander. I've burned, I burned. I've burned all my underwear
about thirty years ago.
Speaker 12 (29:38):
I can say it was a big fire. So I'm
always going to commando for the rest of my life.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Wow, wow, COMANCHI Okay, I mean I don't typically like
to go to commando stage.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
If I have to, I have to. I can see
how after a while you might just get used to it.
I've reached a stage of my life and I could
overshare here, or I could keep it to myself. I'll
just share it with you because I think it's good
for fifty two year old men to share secrets with
each other. And I can't leave the house without powdering up.
Really yeah, every day, Chase understandable. Every day powder up. Yeah,
(30:12):
can't do it, and I started that about a year
and a half ago.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
It's all right, and I don't feel bad about it.
But I shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
No, you shouldn't feel bad about it. I mean, I
don't know if I've ever tried it, so is it
something to try? It's like somebody laying on the floor.
Just I'll tell you what. Okay, blowing in the right spot.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Disneyland a couple of weeks ago. Okay, oh my god,
are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Ninety five degrees walking, there's a lot of change going on.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, dude, we did thirty thousand steps for three days.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, you got it. You got it that. You know what?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
They should have a gold bond station at Disneyland. Did
the little store across the street? They got it on
the east side. Yeah, good for them. We're thinking it's
the female version of that.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
By the way, it's four Oh it's it's it's like
a it's like a it looks like a deodorant you
know thing that for men rule.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, yeah, all right, God, that's what this show is
turned into. That's what happens when the m's get bounced
and you know whatever. So yeah, lost of them that.
I'm sorry, you're right, you know what I suck? Yeah right,
slap all right? Hey, dick, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
What's that?
Speaker 8 (31:16):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
We wanted to do? You want to right.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It looked like the Bengals we're gonna win on Sunday,
leaving the Bears forty to forty one with less than
a minute ago, but.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Cincinnati's defense crumbled.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Is Caleb Williams threw in a fifty eight yard touchdown
pass was seventeen seconds left to Loveland?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
By the way, Is that right? Who won the player
of the week? By the way? You see that?
Speaker 5 (31:33):
That was weird.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
After the game, Bengals running game running back Chase Brown
Jackson sounded off on the team's defense.
Speaker 11 (31:43):
It sucks, but that's NFL. You got to play to
the last second. You can't let up, even even when
you feel like the momentum shifted. So that would that
would be how I'm feeling right now, is just play
all the way through.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
When what was runs through your head walking back to block.
Speaker 11 (31:59):
Room probably the same as well was running through your head,
like like what the what the We just got to
play complimentary football, like we put the ball in the
end zone and go up a point at the end,
finish the game, like just end it like that's it,
Like that's that's like that's.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
What we need to do.
Speaker 11 (32:19):
Just end the game, like get us the ball back,
let us go to twenty two Big three, and let's
end the game.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
That's how that's like, That's how I feel. So I
don't like a guy saying that.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Honestly, I think it's funny for us, But if I'm
a Bengal fan, I'm like, who the hell is this guy?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I mean he's a good player, he's not a great player, right,
he's been a bust this year. Drafted him. If Joe
Burrow had said that, different story, Right, if a guy
like that came out and said that a little bit
of a different story. I think what it does say
is that Zach Taylor's totally lost the locker rund. He's done.
He's he's dead man walking. I'm kind of surprised he's
lasted this long. I mean, Joe Burrow has been carrying
(32:54):
him a long years.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
And he's banged up. I get it. It's hard to
win when your star quarterback is hurt. Right, See what
happens when you lose a quarterback, dick?
Speaker 11 (33:01):
You know?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's hard.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
So I just think, again, I think it's it's funny
for us to hear that, but I think it's kind
of a bozo thing for him to say, unless unless
he sees guys just totally slacking off behind the scenes,
which I would hope that he did see that, and
then he just aired him out after the game was over.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
All, right, get one more here quickly?
Speaker 11 (33:21):
Three?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Three?
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
On Saturdays College Game Day on ESPN, Nick Saban cracked
the joke about himself while talking about how he used
current Ohio State quarterback Julian saying, when they were both
at Alabama back in twenty twenty three, at one point I'd.
Speaker 10 (33:37):
Like to make about Julian saying, yeah, is he was
at Alabama and the coach at Alabama played him on
the scout team for a whole years.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
The well, wait a minute, they had Milroe, right, Was
it Milroe the starter?
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (33:55):
And he was doing pretty well. Yes he was, and
then he wasn't It was I mean, it was a
smart move.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Jalen Milroe the year before Kaitlyn got there.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Was fantastic, very good.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
And then he's stunk and now he's not even a
factor in Seattle.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Is he on the team?
Speaker 5 (34:09):
He's on the team?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
You sure?
Speaker 5 (34:11):
I'm sure?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Okay, I remember you and me talking about this and
they're like, oh, man, they haven't used him at all.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
He's a zero. He's a zero.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
And partially the reason because he's a zero is because
you've got a quarterback that you just said was given
the MVP Award mid season by some webs.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Didn't well Pro Football Focus, Didn't we think they would
use him with the goal line, fourth down, fourth and inches, things.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Like, they're not even doing that.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
No, for God's sakes, I'd like to go back and
look at how many like fourth and inch opportunities they've
had where they punted the ball and maybe they could
have used Jalen Moroe instead. I'm just wondering if between
now and the end of the year we see any
role for that guy develop at all. All Right, speaking
of developed, a guy that's absolutely not fully developed yet.
Petros Papadaccus will join next on ninety three three KJRFM.
Where we go. I'm not rooting freaking Zagon in that game.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm just gonna go into that thing like Switzerland with
just like a poker face. And like Jackson said, hope
the roof caves in at the arena for everybody to
the roof cave in before the game, before there's people
in the arena and it just gets canceled.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
There's nowhere to play.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
That'll interrupt Sonics and that a year from now. No,
I mean you're talking about push back the NBA's timeline.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Oh, you fix the roof pretty easily.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Just give him a couple of weeks, man, he's really
to take to fix the tiles at the Kingdome when
the tiles fell off like a couple of months or whatever.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I'm not rooting freaking Zaga.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Is that still a historical monumentause they have to build
a new one, so therefore it's no longer historic monum.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Know that means they have to tap emergency funds, man,
funds that would otherwise go to homeless people go to
fix the roof and climate plage arena. Remember when they
tried to they tried to landmark a Denny's and Ballard.
Is that still there by the way, No, that's not gone.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's gone. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
They tried to Landmark because of the roof. Yeah, some
weirdo save the clock tower. Some committee, we gotta save
the roof. It's an example of Martin Marvel architecture was good.
You know what, give me a super burden? Shut the
hell off, all right. I'm not ritten for Gonzeca, no way,
there's no, there's not.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
I had a chance one team in college back.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I thought I had a chance with you, and I
still want a chance. Jackson asked me if I root
for Gonzac.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Right, here's what we got, my Florio joining us in
about five minutes from now.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
We got to bring this up with Harlem.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
By the way, remember last week or was it two
weeks ago, we were kind of just having some fun.
I think we were kind of bored and out of
ideas on the radio show and like every day, Yeah,
pretty much.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I think we're there already.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
We gotta do this for four hours and Dick was
asking on the air, would you trade Sam Donald for
four first rounders? Remember that? And I said no. I
said I probably would not. I'd consider it, but my
first answer is no. Millan came on and said yes,
but it's not a definite no for me. You said
you would do it. You said you would trade Sam
Donald for four first.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
There's only two two players in football, Mahomes and Allen
and I wouldn't And.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
You said what I say, the show yes to four,
maybe not to three? Okay, And the answer is still no,
are yes to four first rounders?
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So we're gonna ask Kevin Harland at five o'clock tonight.
I want to get Kevin Harlan's take on.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
This because I firmly believe and I don't think I'm
breaking any new ground here with this take that starting
quarterback in the NFL is the absolute most important position
in professional sports and maybe even an amateur athletics who
your quarterback is. Look at what the Patriots are doing
right now with Drake May. I mean, we can go
all around the NFL, the bow Knicks, Dan Jones, but whatever, Okay,
(02:44):
got guys, I gotta be honest with you. If you
got rid of Sam Darnold, and it's not going to
happen obviously, this is just a stupid for cocta Fantasy
Land topic that we're talking about here. If you got
rid of Sam Darnald. And let's say you draft four
guys in the first round. Let's say you draft three
guys in the first round to trade one for two
second round picks. It's a total of five rookies. Three
(03:05):
of them turn out to be starters in the National
Football League. Two of them are bums. But you're still
looking for the quarterback because you get rid of Sam?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Then what then?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
What I mean the hardest thing to do, if we
can agree on that that the hardest thing to do
in sports has find a elite level quarterback in the NFL.
And I'm not saying that he's elite, elite, but I
think he's top fifth in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, don't you think right now? Yes, top fifth in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You've got one of the top six quarterbacks, six seven
quarterbacks in the NFL, and you.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Get rid of him. Good luck finding it again. Good luck?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Do you have those faith in John Schneider kind of
how we have faith in Jerry Depoto finding arms. John
Schneider has always been able to find a quarterback his
entire career with the Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
He has always been able to find it.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Okay, he's done it, He's done it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Twice with Russell and now Sam Darnold, unless you want
to consider Jame Hooker ga.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
In the end you wanted to get rid of you know, whoa.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Whoa Are we just forgetting that the dude traded a
third round pick for Charlie Whitehurst. Yeah, like, I'm sorry
they invested a third round pick in that bump.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And by the way, just be honest with yourselves.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
He's got no track record outside of Russell of drafting
quarterbacks zero zero.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
He hasn't had to run right, but he still hasn't
done it. You know, we don't know. That's kind of
an incomplete.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It has to be an incomplete because the guy, as
you said, Nick, he's never really tried. So I think
even more so when you have that guy who's a
top fifth quarterback in the National Football League. Man, we
should go to bed every night and get on our
hands and freaking knees and thank the sports gods that
Minnesota let this guy walk.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Honestly, like, where would they be? What what?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Let's paint an alternate reality. They'd be flipped where would
they be? Gino Smith would still be here yep, and
they'd be what four and four? And they'd be going nowhere. Yep,
Minnesota and Minnesota would be the Seahawks, and they may
have drafted a rookie.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That guy might be sitting behind Geno right now.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
But instead we'd be instead of being number one in
some people's power polls, which they are, we'd.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Be thinking about next year. He'd be done, season be over.
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You see him on TV on NBC, Pro Football Talk
dot Com PFT Live. Our friend, Michael Florio, how are you, man, Oh, gentlemen,
great to hear your voice again. Hey, before we get
into what's happening here in Seattle, I want to ask
you about their opponent on Sunday. I saw where the
Cardinals put Kyler Murray on the injured reserve list, and
(06:27):
I seem to remember May and a lot of people
were pissed off at Arizona when they had that deal
in his contract that he had to watch a certain
amount of film every week. People even called it racist,
that they was embarrassing for him to have that in there.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
And then I found an article that I.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Think you wrote, Mike, where Kyler Murray himself admitted he
didn't watch film. And now he stinks he's on the
IR and people are actually happy that Jacoby Brissett is
starting for Arizona. So what does Kyler Murray's future look like?
Starting today?
Speaker 8 (06:56):
You think this is a strange situation because it was
just four days ago that Cardinal's coach Jonathan Gannon said
that Murray could have a role on Monday Night against
the Cowboy, and now he's gone into reserve. He really
is training. Look, he has a real injury and there's
a very significant risk of re injury. It's a foot,
(07:17):
it's not a fracture, it's not a list Frank's frain.
But you know when you try to accelerate off of
that foot, it could put more pressure on it and
cause a problem. So they want him to be healthy.
He wants to be healthy. I think this is all
pointing toward divorce in the offseason. The question is do
they trade him or do they end up doing what
the Broncos had to do with Russell Wilson. Because there's
nineteen point five million, it becomes fully guaranteed the fifth
(07:38):
day of the next league year, and that's the reason
to keep him in bubble wraps, to put him on
your reserve and leave him there and ride with Jacobe Rissett.
But I think the other side of this coint is
they don't want to make it look like they salad
on Kyler Murray. If they are going to try to
trade him, you want to try to get a good return.
And if teams sense that you're done with the guy,
they may lowball you to the point where where you
(08:00):
do have to cut him. So the other thing that
is covering all over it. They've been curiously transparent over
the past week or so about Murray's status, going above
and beyond what the injury report requires. And look, no
one's going to come out and admit it, but I
wouldn't be surprised if the truth was the NFL was
telling certain teams behind the scenes, don't play games. Announce
who your start is going to be. Don't do this
(08:22):
back and forth guessing game for strategic game, because it
creates an important piece of inside information. It can be
abused and misused.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Mike, on your broadcast on Sunday night, the Seahawks obliterated
the Commanders. How much of what you saw was the Seahawks?
How much was it the Commanders and the dan Quinn
issue taking leaving Jayden Daniels in how much heat should
he be getting?
Speaker 8 (08:45):
Look, I think it was some of both, and the
Seahawks will clearly be a better team. But as Mike
Commins said after the Steelers somehow beat cults on Sunday.
In this business, you go from drinking wine one week
to squashing grapes to the next. And it's just a
handful of plays that can spark a runaway. And you
make a play here, you make a play there early,
and all of a sudden, it's the two score game,
it's the three score game. And it was over the
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issue with Dad and Daniels and well, hear so much
about analytics. I think all of these mats PhDs that
are in every front office at this point, he need
do a formula as to when you hit the kill
switch on the starting quarterback, either when you're ahead or
when you're behind. You got to play it smart because
at that point it's basically a preseason game, and how
much do we see starters playing the preseason. Get him
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off the field. For quarterback, the less you get hit,
the less likely you'll get hurt. And I preach all
the time about quarterbacks. You got to know when to
avoid contact. Well, the coaches have to know when to
get him the hell off the field, and that is
an important obligation for a head coach. And initially Dan
Quinn danced around it and didn't answer it, but when
he talked to reporters on Monday, he admitted that he
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screwed up. My guess is he was told to know
on certain terms by people above in the organization. You
screwed up, and you cost us our franchise quarterback and
there season's basically over.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Now, what'd you make of the yet sending Sauce to
the Colts for two first round draft picks. Good move
for both teams, good move for one team. What's your
end result on that thing?
Speaker 8 (10:09):
Well, the Jets were resisting a fire sale, and when
you look at what a fire sale technically is, it's
everything must go. We're done, it's over. And they got
great value for Sauce guard and the two first round picks,
and then Quinton Williams the first round pick, a second
round pick, and they got a player from each of
the two teams they did business with. So the Jets
basically got an offer that they wouldn't refuse. And they
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saw this possibility coming. They structured the Sauce Gardener contract
so it wouldn't create an, you know, an over the
top salary cap consequence next year. One of the reasons
Miles Barrett wasn't getting traded by the Brown sixty three
million dead money next year. Well, for South Gardener, it's
eleven million, and it's only eight point twenty five million
more than what it was otherwise going to be for
a signed bonus allocation. They only paid him fourteen million,
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So they they set the table. They make him happy,
but they set the table for being able if they
get an offer, they don't want to refuse to take it.
So it looked like a win win. You know, he
fits better in his own defense, like the culture run
not necessarily a man defense. And the Jets get pieces
where they if they use them properly. I mean, that's
the other side of this. You got to use those
picks properly. They got five first round picks over the
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next two years. Their position to rebuild this thing. We'll
see what they do. But it made sense for both teams,
and it was a stunner, and you know, it gave
a nice little jolt to the last few hours of
the trade period.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, Mike, it seems like the football deadline used to
be crickets and now it seems more like the baseball
trade deadline. Is that kind of how you understand it,
and if so, why is that?
Speaker 8 (11:37):
Well, I think it's different every year, and some years
we have greater expectations based upon all of the reporting
that's done ahead of time. There were a lot of
trades that happened well before the deadline. You know, you
see a need, you make a call, and you do
a deal. If there's a deal to be made, it
takes two sides. One of the realities is it takes
the full nine weeks to fully crystallize who's buying and
who's selling. And even then, some of the teams that
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should have been buying, they don't want to give up
what they think is too much by way of future
assets to get help. Now, you know, Steelers fans are
upset they didn't do anything to make the team better.
Fans of other teams, the forty nine Ers fans, they're
up in arms. They didn't do anything. But it is
a delicate balance. How much of the future do you
mortgage to go get a guy that may not be
part of the future. It may just be a rental
for the rest of the year. So I think that
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that those are factors that hey, as the trade go.
The Rashid Shaheed trade. That's the hell of a deal
for the Seahawks because you know, it's hard to plug
a receiver in in the middle of the season. But
he already knows the system, he knows the verbage, he
knows the coordinator. You know, he's gonna go from New
Orleans Seattle across the country and be expected to play
right away. But having that connection makes it a lot easier.
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And now defense is going to have to defend every
blade of grass because you're gonna have Shaheed stretching everything
deep and it opens up all the stuff underneath. Pro
jacting Simith and jig Ben Cooper Cuff. I mean, that's
I think sneaky, like great win now all in kind
of a move by Seattle.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Well, it's funny you mentioned Supercup there, Mike, because a
lot of us think that one of the reasons why
they made this deal is because they're not relying on
Cooper Cup as much. He's banged up, he's thirty two
years old, he's not producing like he used to. How
much of this trade was made because of their maybe
kind of concern about his injury and his future at
his age versus, Hey, let's just get as many missiles
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on the offense as we can find.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
I think it's apples an orange is because of the
skill set she head has, because of what a guy
with his speed can do to pull the safeties away
from all the underneath zones and dead spots where receivers
can go and have some room to maneuver and not
have to worry about the ball getting picked off, the
pass being broken up, or the guy getting tackled as
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soon as he catches the ball. That's where she heat
makes a difference. And I saw that. Mike McDonald said
today that he'll contribute in the return day and that's
how he first made his mark in New Orleans. But
once they decided this guy could be a good receiver,
they got him away from that. He was an All
Pro returner his second season. He basically stopped turning in
year three. It looks like he's going to be doing
both as they try to get the most out of
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his deal.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Can we learn anything from the Chiefs Bills matchup or
will the Chiefs just do what they always do in
January and overcome a loss earlier to the Bills by
beating the Bills?
Speaker 8 (14:14):
Well? Yeah, I mean, look, that's the reality and I
think this is a very important human dynamic that is
relevant in all sports. In any competitive venture, you get
in certain situations where the sphincter Titans and when the
Bills gets the postseason, if they cross paths with the
Chiefs again, they're going to have the weight of the
world on their shoulders. The fact that they accomplished whatever
they accomplished this year to put themselves in position to
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play that game, and then every past year against the
Chiefs all the way back to the four straight Super
Bowl appearances that most of those guys weren't even born for.
That pressure just becomes insurmountable and you can't be loose
and make that play. There's five plays a game that
make a difference. You can't make that play when that
play matters. I think that's important. But the every thing
about this game, the stakes were the highest for both
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teams that they had ever been for a chie the
Bills regular season games since they started crossing paths every
year in twenty twenty, because both teams won the division
every single year. Well, now look at where the Chiefs are.
They're in third place, a game behind the Chargers, who've
already beaten the Chiefs. Once two games behind the Broncos,
the Chiefs are gonna have to pull an inside straight
here to win the division. And at some point if
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they don't start stacking wins, and you know, it's kind
of sputtering, they win one and we think they're back,
then they lose one. Then they win one and we
think they're back, and then they lose one. They got
to put a streak together here, because there's no way
these dominoes fall. You look at I mean, I mean,
you've got Patriots Bills wild card there, the team that
doesn't win the division, You've got Broncos Chargers wild card there.
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And then if the Jaguars, who hold the tiebreaker against
the Chiefs and are five and three, if they win
enough games, they may edge the Chiefs out from making
the playoffs at all. And that's almost incomprehensible that the
Chiefs wouldn't make the playoffs. But if they don't start
putting some wins together, they're going to be in that
mix the last three weeks where they're looking at, we
need this to happen, this to happen, this to happen,
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this to happen, or we're not getting in.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Got I'm looking at the Patriots, Mike before you go.
I'm just curious if you're buying what's happening out there.
I think, Dick, you took the Buccaneers on Factor Fiction
this week, right, So even if Tampa or the Patriots lose, Mike,
there're seven and three. Then they got the Jets, Bengals, Giants. Geez,
they can win all three and be a ten win team.
Then Bill's Ravens lose those two, your ten and five
Jets Dolphins to end, you're a twelve win football team.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
It's incredible how soft their schedule has been.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So are you buying this as a product of their
schedule or are the Patriots?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Is the roster really that.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
Good so you can't control the schedule. I think back
to the nineteen ninety nine Greatest Show on Turf, the Rams,
the year that they won the Super Bowl. Their schedule
was as soft as it could be. But you know
what happens when you play a soft schedule. You start
winning games, you start feeling better about yourself, you start
gaining confidence, you develop an aura. And that's what happening
with the Patriots. Drake met consider this, and this came
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from NBC Sports Research. They put together a packet for
us every week. If I actually can, you know, muster
the attention span to read it. There's some good stuff
in there. Drake May is only the fourth guy to
have eight straight games with two hundred or more yards
passing and a passer rating of one hundred or higher.
There's only three other guys who have done it. Aaron
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Rodgers did it twice, Peyton Manning did it once, Tom
Brady did it once, and every time those guys did it,
they were the NFL MVP. That's the kind of season
that Drake made is kind of quietly putting together high
completion percentage, efficient offense, reliable to score points. The defense
does enough. Mike Brabel's a great coach. There was no
denying that the Titans never should have fired him. And
it's all working out perfectly for the Patriots. And there's
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a nice little break between the Brady Patriots and the
Drake May Mike Grabel Patriots where I don't think they're
going to feel that pressure because it really isn't a
team standing in the shadows of the Patriots dynasty.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Mike Florio great stuff. We'll talking a week. Appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
Man.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Thanks Mike, Big Guy.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
All right, Mike Florida with us on the radio program.
We're gonna break gets Factor Fiction. It's Wednesday, It's Jackson's Day.
He will join us and give us his selection one
last week. Will they make it two in a row
or go back to the pit of despair? Next on
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Speaker 1 (18:29):
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I guess involving the Mariners Jorge Polonko declining a six
million dollar option so he will become a free agent.
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I just noticed that a Pro Football Focus came out
with their midseason All Pro team. You see who their
MVP is, by the way of the NFL, Sam Dow
Jackson Smith and Jigba is the offensive player of the year,
Sam Donald, Mvowels of the National Football League. And you
knuckleheads want to trade the guy really for draft picks?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Who wants to trade?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
You said you'd do it. Did you not hear yourself
in the first segment.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
There's a difference between wanting to trade Sam Donald and saying,
if you got four first round picks for your quarterback,
would you trade him?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I just said that. I just said that.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
You just said I wanted to trade first round draft picks.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
You admitted that you want to trade Dick wants to
trade the MVP of the NFL for four first round
draft picks Jackson. Guys, come on, we got it. We
gotta realize what we have here, and this could fall
apart like tomorrow right like he could turn into a pumpkin.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I doubt it.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I doubt it. I think he's here to stay. I
think he is absolutely here to stay. I think he
is the franchise quarter back of the Seahawks for the
next probably five or six seven years.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I think we got nothing to worry about.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I think it's going to be go time for the
Hawks in regards to a super Bowl window for half
a decade because of Number fourteen.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
That's what I think.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
I don't think you're wrong.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
But I'll also give you another list of guys that
I would trade for four first round draft picks, Justin Herbert,
Lamar Jackson, Matthew Stafford, Jared Goff, Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
I would not trade Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
I would rather have Mahomes than fourth first round and
I'd rather have Josh Allen. But those are the only
two players in the league. I said that two weeks ago.
I'll say it again. There's two players in the league
that I think are so transcendent first ballot Hall of
famers and are going to finish their career on the
Mount Rushmore because I think Josh Allen wins probably multiple
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Super Bowls before it's all said and done. I am
that big on Josh Allen. That is the type of player,
and only that type of player that I'd rather have
than for What.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Did the Rams get when they traded Eric Dickerson to
the Colts.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Remember that deal?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, in eighty seven, they got three first rounders and
they got two first rounders so go back and tell
me what the Rams got in the Eric Dickerson trade.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Tell you right now.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
And I'm wondering what those players turned into for LA
because I think my point is this, and this is
obviously just a kakamami conversation because it's never going to happen.
First of all, it's not even legal in NFL terms.
You can't even trade for first rounders. I'm not even
sure if you can trade three first rounders. We know
you can trade two casas Gardner just went yesterday for
two first round draft picks. But you're talking about giving
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up a guy who is giving you the answer to
the hardest thing to find in professional sports, and I
think turning that around for absolute unknown commodities. Unless you
can move some of those picks for another established quarterback
from a different football team and then add to the
team with those first round draft picks, I think you
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got a better chance of taking a step back, Dick,
then you do a step forward when you give up
the quarterback. When you give up a guy like this,
you have a better chance of regressing than you do progressing,
even if you have all that draft capital, because you've
got the burden hand already it's done.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
So that's what makes me nervous.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And look, obviously we're just having some fun here with this,
but I think it's incredible what Sam Darnold's done. Like,
you know, we'll talk to Kevin about this later on today.
The guy's twenty and five in his last twenty five
regular season starts, and he looks good. Like this is
not a guy that's just he does along for the ride.
He's not here just managing the office.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
I just think, I mean, I totally agree with you
that that I think he has done enough already to
cement the fact that he should be the starting quarterback
for at least the rest of his decade, right, I mean,
I think, And I'm actually surprised because I didn't think
i'd be able to say that after watching him play
eight games. I thought I'd at least need the entire
first season, if not into the second season, to say, yeah,
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I think he's our guy, or no, I don't think he's.
So I've been incredibly impressed with what he has.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
So here's here's what the just for giggles is what
the Rams got in the In the trade. They got
running backs Greg Bell and Owen gil remember Owen Gil
plus six draft picks, three first rounders and three second
rounders for Eric Dickerson. Okay, those draft picks were used
to select Gaston Green wide receiver Aaron Cox, linebacker Fred
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Strickland running back, Cleveland Gary linebacker Frank Stams, and defensive
back Darryl Henley. That's what they got with those draft picks. Now,
it doesn't mean that you can't find a way to
get some stars and get lucky, but that's what they got, and.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
That's for a freaking running back. Can you imagine the horror?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Is also almost forty years ago.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Of course, but still you're you're still drafting guys and
scouting guys like you are now. Can you imagine the
horror if you gave up Sam Darnold and got that
mess in return.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Down the road five years later? You're like, what?
Speaker 11 (24:04):
I think?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Another thing that we have not talked about yet is
the salary and implications of having all those first round
wrap picks. I mean that those are minimum for starters,
if not more. If you turn him into second third picks,
that becomes starters that you're not paying anything.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I gotta be honor, man.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I'm a little bit surprised that you haven't come off
that this at all since we brought But I don't
want you to make me sound like I'm Sam Barnold. Hay,
that's not unfair. I thought I thought you would have
come off here. Let's I would trade him for four
first rounders thing. I thought from a couple of weeks ago,
you would have moved maybe a little bit to my side,
And it sounds like you have moved there. That's a
philosophy thing. All right, let's got to break factor fiction
(24:41):
right now?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Where's that to go? Glad you're with us.
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Speaker 2 (25:03):
Al Right, here we go. I'd like to update the
standings for factor fiction. Of apparently Andrews is the only
one here that knows how to do that, But to
wait until he gets back from Hawaii. By the way,
imagine Andrews in a speedo on waiky Key Beach. It's
on Malley, by the way, SPF fifty all that whatever.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
He's picked a good time gering himself up outside.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
It's Jackson's day, it's Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
He's writing a one game winning streak with no help
from us whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Ian.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
By the way Jackson acts alone, he's his own man,
trying to make it a two game winning streak.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
What do you got, big boy?
Speaker 5 (25:36):
We're out on time.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I'll be quick.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Colts minus six and a half against the Falcons in Berlin.
They got Sauce Carter, They're feeling good about themselves, and
they're not gonna lose too straight after losing the Pittsburgh
I think, well, I mean, it's a man defenses for
you was talking about. Should be able to go into
that system and easily just cover whoever's on his side.
I think Jonathan Taylor Daniel Jones are great. So give
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me Colts minus six and a half.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Got the game was in Germany?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Yeah, it's one game.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I forgot the game was for both teams. Okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I mean I liked it ten minutes ago when I
thought the game was it Lucas Oil. I don't like
it as much now that I find out it's in Germany.
But I'm gonna roll with you because I believe in you. Okay,
Colts minus the points is the pick?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
You like it? Fact, I hate it. Fiction to four
nine four, five to one.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
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Speaker 5 (26:28):
I like Jackson, He's my friend, That's what I'll say
about that.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But you're a moron like Jackson. Now hammer them, come
on go, he need take it. He's got thick skin.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
The Falcons have lost three games in a row, and
I think they're a better team than their record, indicase
they lost by one at New England on Sunday one
at New England.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Well, if there were better games presented for me, stupid.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I gave you the one I'm gonna take tomorrow, iOS
my pick.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
For the most too late now to you ands And
you also offered me the Cowboys on Monday and they
got destroyed by Arizona.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Okay, that was your idea, Dick, that was his idea.
I wanted the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
He's like, He's like you, you take the Cowboys and
take the Ravens tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
There drop, guess what happened?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Man?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
The freaking midday show. Took the Ravens. For God's sakes,
they're gonna win, all right. We're taking the Cults minus
the points in Germany over Atlanta. Pennis always plays terrible internationally.
By the way, yes it should work out, yeah, four
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Speaker 6 (27:35):
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Pawn Star, Jimmy mister Daropolo. Now let's have some fun
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Speaker 2 (27:45):
All right, boys and girls, We're back on a What
the hell is this Wednesday afternoon? Right here on ninety
three three kJ r f M. A rainy, soggy Wednesday afternoon.
I was watching Fox thirteen this morning. Our gala, Abby
Acny says it's gonna be terrible tonight were her words.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
By the way, so be prepared.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Every minute of this day has looked like it's like
seven thirty in the morning, Like it has never gone
to even like a four on a brightness scale of
one detention.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I think there's just I think they're getting this ready
for the Badger game. By the way, on day to
the atmosphere, they see it might snow maybe in the
fourth quarter, second half of that game.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
On Saturday, I.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Was talking to Matt Lape by the way, who is
the play by play voice of the Badgers, and I said, look, man,
we were kind of looking forward to coming out there
and seeing Camp Randall at its best. Will we see
Camp Randall at its best on Saturday? He said, no,
so it's gonna be. It's gonna be a weird atmosphere,
but going out there.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
We haven't really seen Husky Stadium in it's best the
last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
No, we really haven't. But you know what, I got
to be honest with you real quick. I've been pretty
impressed with the student section. Man, they have been there
all year long. All right, let's do it a little
fun with audio.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Here we go. Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear
that today? What's that? Dick? Where do you want to start?
Jackson one? All right?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Monday night ESPN's Manning cast of the Cardinals Cowboys, Charles
Barkley joined Peyton and Eli and had some details exposed
about his underwear behavior.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
I was doing research for tonight and Chugg is it true?
Speaker 9 (29:12):
And you've burned all of your underwear almost twenty years
ago and haven't worn any sex.
Speaker 12 (29:19):
Yeah, I realized that underwear would they were not a necessity,
so I had a it was a big fire to Peyton. Uh,
so I'm always going commanche is a comanche.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Commander. I've burned, I burned. I've burned all my underwear
about thirty years ago.
Speaker 12 (29:38):
I can say it was a big fire. So I'm
always going to commando for the rest of my life.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Wow, wow, COMANCHI Okay, I mean I don't typically like
to go to commando stage.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
If I have to, I have to. I can see
how after a while you might just get used to it.
I've reached a stage of my life and I could
overshare here, or I could keep it to myself. I'll
just share it with you because I think it's good
for fifty two year old men to share secrets with
each other. And I can't leave the house without powdering up.
Really yeah, every day, Chase understandable. Every day powder up. Yeah,
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can't do it, and I started that about a year
and a half ago.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
It's all right, and I don't feel bad about it.
But I shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
No, you shouldn't feel bad about it. I mean, I
don't know if I've ever tried it, so is it
something to try? It's like somebody laying on the floor.
Just I'll tell you what. Okay, blowing in the right spot.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Disneyland a couple of weeks ago. Okay, oh my god,
are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Ninety five degrees walking, there's a lot of change going on.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, dude, we did thirty thousand steps for three days.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, you got it. You got it that. You know what?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
They should have a gold bond station at Disneyland. Did
the little store across the street? They got it on
the east side. Yeah, good for them. We're thinking it's
the female version of that.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
By the way, it's four Oh it's it's it's like
a it's like a it looks like a deodorant you
know thing that for men rule.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, yeah, all right, God, that's what this show is
turned into. That's what happens when the m's get bounced
and you know whatever. So yeah, lost of them that.
I'm sorry, you're right, you know what I suck? Yeah right,
slap all right? Hey, dick, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
What's that?
Speaker 8 (31:16):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
We wanted to do? You want to right.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It looked like the Bengals we're gonna win on Sunday,
leaving the Bears forty to forty one with less than
a minute ago, but.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Cincinnati's defense crumbled.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Is Caleb Williams threw in a fifty eight yard touchdown
pass was seventeen seconds left to Loveland?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
By the way, Is that right? Who won the player
of the week? By the way? You see that?
Speaker 5 (31:33):
That was weird.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
After the game, Bengals running game running back Chase Brown
Jackson sounded off on the team's defense.
Speaker 11 (31:43):
It sucks, but that's NFL. You got to play to
the last second. You can't let up, even even when
you feel like the momentum shifted. So that would that
would be how I'm feeling right now, is just play
all the way through.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
When what was runs through your head walking back to block.
Speaker 11 (31:59):
Room probably the same as well was running through your head,
like like what the what the We just got to
play complimentary football, like we put the ball in the
end zone and go up a point at the end,
finish the game, like just end it like that's it,
Like that's that's like that's.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
What we need to do.
Speaker 11 (32:19):
Just end the game, like get us the ball back,
let us go to twenty two Big three, and let's
end the game.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
That's how that's like, That's how I feel. So I
don't like a guy saying that.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Honestly, I think it's funny for us, But if I'm
a Bengal fan, I'm like, who the hell is this guy?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I mean he's a good player, he's not a great player, right,
he's been a bust this year. Drafted him. If Joe
Burrow had said that, different story, Right, if a guy
like that came out and said that a little bit
of a different story. I think what it does say
is that Zach Taylor's totally lost the locker rund. He's done.
He's he's dead man walking. I'm kind of surprised he's
lasted this long. I mean, Joe Burrow has been carrying
(32:54):
him a long years.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
And he's banged up. I get it. It's hard to
win when your star quarterback is hurt. Right, See what
happens when you lose a quarterback, dick?
Speaker 11 (33:01):
You know?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's hard.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
So I just think, again, I think it's it's funny
for us to hear that, but I think it's kind
of a bozo thing for him to say, unless unless
he sees guys just totally slacking off behind the scenes,
which I would hope that he did see that, and
then he just aired him out after the game was over.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
All, right, get one more here quickly?
Speaker 11 (33:21):
Three?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Three?
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
On Saturdays College Game Day on ESPN, Nick Saban cracked
the joke about himself while talking about how he used
current Ohio State quarterback Julian saying, when they were both
at Alabama back in twenty twenty three, at one point I'd.
Speaker 10 (33:37):
Like to make about Julian saying, yeah, is he was
at Alabama and the coach at Alabama played him on
the scout team for a whole years.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
The well, wait a minute, they had Milroe, right, Was
it Milroe the starter?
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (33:55):
And he was doing pretty well. Yes he was, and
then he wasn't It was I mean, it was a
smart move.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Jalen Milroe the year before Kaitlyn got there.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Was fantastic, very good.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
And then he's stunk and now he's not even a
factor in Seattle.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Is he on the team?
Speaker 5 (34:09):
He's on the team?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
You sure?
Speaker 5 (34:11):
I'm sure?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Okay, I remember you and me talking about this and
they're like, oh, man, they haven't used him at all.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
He's a zero. He's a zero.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
And partially the reason because he's a zero is because
you've got a quarterback that you just said was given
the MVP Award mid season by some webs.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Didn't well Pro Football Focus, Didn't we think they would
use him with the goal line, fourth down, fourth and inches, things.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Like, they're not even doing that.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
No, for God's sakes, I'd like to go back and
look at how many like fourth and inch opportunities they've
had where they punted the ball and maybe they could
have used Jalen Moroe instead. I'm just wondering if between
now and the end of the year we see any
role for that guy develop at all. All Right, speaking
of developed, a guy that's absolutely not fully developed yet.
Petros Papadaccus will join next on ninety three three KJRFM.
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