November 7, 2025 • 36 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Hugh Millen about the UW game in Wisconsin coming up tomorrow, Seahawks facing Arizona on Sunday, and the acquisition of Rashid Shaheed this week, before the guys get to some Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Now with you, here's Sufdi and dig.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
All right, we're back inside the Skyey Bar outside Camp
Randall Stadium in Wisconsin, and Dick Fane, You're not gonna
believe this.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
There is a buttload of Husky fans here. That is a.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Technical term, technical term of Husky fans here at the.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Sky more lesson than a plethora.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It is way more than a plethora. It's also way
more than a crapload. By the way, it's a buttload.
And actually one guy here is wearing a humill in
Jersey as we speak.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I sir, your name and where you're from. My name's
Alex Plateau from Mercer Island, Washington.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
And your favorite ex Husky quarterback is Hugh is Why
is that great quarterback throw the ball?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Very well?
Speaker 6 (01:04):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I love that all right, Hueie, you got some fans here.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Man, you like that analysis there? He's a good quarterback,
could throw the ball.
Speaker 7 (01:11):
Good job you god?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I is why you know that the people, the people
have not forgotten.
Speaker 7 (01:18):
About my own. He might be on a one island
of one. I'm not kicking him off.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Well let's uh, let's get some thoughts because we're here.
We'll talk Hawks in a minute. But how about this
DW U dub game tomorrow?
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
U W versus you dub the Badgers and the Huskies
tomorrow a a offensively challenged you Badger team that has
scored one touchdown their last thirty offensive drives. I mean,
I don't know, man, you put yourself in the shoes
of a current Husky football player. I'm sure you played
games like this back in the day where your opponent
was kind of wounded a little bit.
Speaker 8 (01:52):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
What do you make of what we're about to see
tomorrow in Madison?
Speaker 9 (01:56):
Well, it's kind of surprising how far they've fallen down.
And Barry Alvarez, I think on some level, you know,
he developed a program that had some qualities similar to
Washington and Don James. There was an emphasis on the defense,
offensive line, toughness, don't beat yourself. So I think it
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wasn't just they both have a w on the helmets.
I think there were some style similarities. That's maybe a
long time ago. I would just say this iteration, this
Hunter Simpson. I watched some game tape, you know, I'll
just put it like this. I got drafted to the Rams.
We were in the same division of as the forty
nine ers, and then, in an act of complete geographic
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incoherence to the Falcons, were put in the NFC West
as well. I played on them. So played the forty
nine Ers twice a year, watched a ton of opponent studies.
So I've watched Joe Montana's prime and it used to
bother the hell out of me how easy it looked
to play the position.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
Because I look at Montana, I was like, he's not.
Speaker 9 (03:00):
That big, skinny Calves moves good, but not in a
Lamar Jackson or even stun Steve Young kind of way,
Like why does he make it look so easy?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
Well, I would say this, this Hunter Simpson.
Speaker 9 (03:11):
It's been a long time since I've seen a guy
who makes quarterbacking look so hard.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Everything he's not even supposed to be playing for christ.
Speaker 9 (03:26):
Well, I'm just telling you he's the guy who's under
centered for the Wisconsin Badgers, all right, So don't tell
me about the pain, show me the baby, and.
Speaker 7 (03:33):
So I would just I just look.
Speaker 9 (03:35):
Look, he's late with everything, he's inaccurate, he throws to
the wrong guy. He throws I don't know, it's it's
it's a mister. I'll say this. I'll close with this
on him. The Pro Football Focus has three hundred and
twenty five quarterbacks that they've given a grade to.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Hunter Simmons is graded three twenty fourth.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Oh jeez, So I don't want to know the guy.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
Who's three twenty five.
Speaker 9 (04:02):
But at any event, now, they do run the stretch,
the outside zone that the Seahawks have been trying to get.
You know that they can kind of hurt you, make
you a little nervous, bite some fingernails with that outside zone.
Washington's gonna have to stop that on the edge. But
this shouldn't be on paper much of a challenge.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
So because of that horrible offense, there's a couple of
ways to look at it. You can just say, hey,
we're just gonna we're gonna play conservative, We're gonna run
the ball, we're gonna score our twenty points, we're gonna
use the punt to our advantage, and we're gonna get
out of there with a twenty to seven victory. Or
do you just want to go bombs away, fast paced,
lots of possessions. But you could also be turning it
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over playing like that and giving that horrible offense a
short field where they actually could score touchdowns.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
What should be Jed Fish's at m O Tomarrow offensive.
Speaker 9 (04:49):
I think you should put the hammer down. I mean,
I think just you know, you know, just go after him.
I think that they have in their offense Wisconsin so
feeble that I think that if you make mistakes, you
should be able to cover for it your defense. So
I would say I'll gas no breaks, man, Just let's go,
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Let's try and put points up, and you know, just
develop a cohesion over the next few weeks and get
ready to be.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
Playing at our prime when we host Oregon.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Can I throw a curveball at you at least?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
All?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Right?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You mentioned Oregon, Oregon, Iowa, Oregon, Iowa tomorrow from Kinnick.
A lot of people wonder is it in Washington's best
interest to actually root for Oregon wak to beat Iowa
to make that game in late November as meaningful as possible.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You know my take on it.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I've always said, hell no, let's find another way, find
another way. The problem is, with this year's schedule, there's
not a lot of other ways left. Pal That Oregon
game is about all there is as far as quality
opponents left on their schedule. So I guess number one,
you've seen Oregon play, what do you make it tomorrow's game?
And as a lifelong Husky fan, are you calling for
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the Ducks tomorrow?
Speaker 9 (06:02):
Well, I think it's okay a fan, how you want
a fan? I think that there's a real possibility that
this team could be, you know, sitting there as a
two lost team Washington going in and playing at home
against an Oregon team, and and yeah, playing for the
right to play in the playoffs. So I think that
I think for me, I think the logic would win out.
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And clearly, if you're just going logic, then then you
would root for Oregon tomorrow. But I certainly understand if
the visceral hatred prevents anybody from doing that. I've experienced
a good part of my life in that regard. But
I think, you know, for me, I think Oregon needs
to win so that it makes for a more convincing
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Washington win when they beat the Ducks and the candidacy
to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
I see it as a no lose situation.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Either we get to laugh in Oregon's face or something
good happens to me.
Speaker 9 (06:55):
So there you go some people and say it's a
it's a it's a lose lose because it's but.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I get it.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
I like your thinking.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
You would just say this, that's the smartest thing you've
ever said.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I appreciate that. But it's a compliment, man.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
You I got one more on the dogs.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Uh how much of the UUBS run game struggles that
we saw for three or four weeks there were because
of Carver, Willis and Mills being out, And how much
of it was something that goes a little deeper than that.
Speaker 9 (07:33):
Well, it's a big part of it, particularly when they
ran to the left side. I think when they ran
the stretch to the right, I think it was less
of a factor.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
Uh so, so I I.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
Think there's elements of that. I expect them to run
the ball better. I think there's a philosophy there but
you know, it seemed like there was always somebody was
just you know, missing a block, and it wasn't necessarily
the offensive line. You know, oftentimes wide receivers they come
in and they don't root out the I think those
times where they were ineffective running to the right side.
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You know, you know, it's not Joanah Coleman's fault if
you give him a window. But I do think that
being able to rely on you know, on the on
the the running place to the left and then featuring
him mobile right handed quarterback, who, of course Demond Williams is.
I think that's a nice compliment. I'd rather be good
running to the left than running to the right for
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that reason.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well, I do have one more on the Huskies, and
it involves a conversation that Dick and I had last segment.
All of us have had this conversation before, Hugh. But
you know, there's a little smoke about Jetfish to UCLA.
There's some reports out there that says he's got interest,
some reports out there that says that UCLA has interest.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I know that Rick new heisl a week ago.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I think it was Dick said if Jetfish wanted the
UCLA job he could have it. There's one update that
says that you know, his wife doesn't like it in Seattle. Well,
you know, look, I mean his wife announced on Facebook
two months ago, Hugh, that she was taking the kids
to Tucson to finish their high school career in Arizona.
So that's not exactly breaking new ground because Amber has
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admitted she was going back to Arizona. But I guess,
how convinced are you that Jetfish is more fifty to
fifty for this job next year, and how convinced are
you that he's a serious candidate for the UCLA gig.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
Well, all we can do is make inference. Is we
can take an an ensemble of facts and we can
put them together and say, okay, what best describes and
checks all of the boxes with those ensembled facts.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Well, okay, the fact that.
Speaker 9 (09:39):
Our head coach's wife is living fifteen hundred miles away,
that's a concern for a Husky fan who wants Jetfish
to remain the Husky coach, right, I mean, Caeryl James
wasn't living fifteen hundred miles away. You know, I know
a little bit about UCLA. You know, my roommate from
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college was the head coach there, you know, at a
time when Fish was the offensive coordinator. And I think
that it was regarded to be somewhat common knowledge that
she liked the Manhattan beach scene and whatever. I cannot
speak for her as far as I know. She's a delightful,
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charming lady. But she's from a Rolette, Texas. And you know,
that's that's twenty minutes outside of Dallas. That's like being
Issaguada Seattle. They have different politics down there, they have
different weather down there. I've lived there as a cowboy,
and I was a ram in Orange County. Dallas. Just
the scene feels a lot like Orange County. And and
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and I think some of it is hard of us.
For some of us, I grew up less, you know,
twenty blocks from uh Husky Stadium. It's hard for some
of us to not think of how desirable Seattle is.
But you know what for some outsiders and did Fish
grew you know, grew up less than an hour for
Manhattan in New Jersey. And as they said his wife,
Seattle may not be for everybody. And yet and and
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some coaches will say, listen, I'm gonna coach wherever is
the best place for me and our family, period, end
of story. Other coaches will say, honey, where do you
need to be? I'll just tell you this. If I
had chosen to go coaching me as a Seattle and
Western Coast guy, and and this is just a hypothetical,
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and I had a chance to coach Penn State, but
my wife really needed to be me to be to
take the Miami Hurricane job because that was that fitter stuff.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
Would I rather coach? Now, now I understand this analogy.
Speaker 9 (11:42):
I've just put Penn State as as Washington and College
Park as Seattle. I was gonna say Rutgers, but then
you'd say, wait a minute, Rutgers doesn't have Washingtons football history.
Just work with me on the analogys. My point is this,
I would rather coach in Miami and live with my
wife where and where.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
She's happy, absolutely right.
Speaker 9 (12:03):
Me being from Seattle, then be coaching fifteen hundred miles
away from my wife. And then so it's you know,
it's personal values. There's no right or wrong. But if
you don't think that this is something that is topical
for Husky fans, I can't help you. Just go on
Amberfish's Instagram. Seems like a charming, delightful woman, love everything
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about what radiates her energy. But does she look more
UCLA or does she look more University of Washington when
you look at the instagram?
Speaker 7 (12:35):
I don't know. I mean this is fair discussions to have,
given that they.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Don't live together, right right, Hugh?
Speaker 6 (12:43):
And last we left you, you the last words out
of your mouth was I can't believe you didn't ask
me about Rashid Shaheed's wide receiver attributes. So I have
it starved and circled and bolded. Give me Rashid Shaheed's
wide receiver attributes.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
Yeah, at five ten and a half, you know his release,
He's got to do it with quickness. He can get
jammed up if he's the X meaning tether did the
line of scrimmage. So I think sometimes his release with
quickness is good. Sometimes he gets swallowed up by some
longer armed guys. As far as his routes, there's a quickness,
a sewing, machigue and quality to some of his routes,
Like when he runs acute routes where he's running up
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the field and then he has to stop and then
come back to the quarterback. There's a quickness there that's
certainly above level. I don't want to say elite, but
very very good.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
Now, when he.
Speaker 9 (13:30):
Does speed cuts, there's a certain technique. It's very fixable,
very fixable. When he does a speed cut, he throws
his shoulder around, he opens up his body too much.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
That's like putting a parachute on.
Speaker 9 (13:42):
And he would be faster out of his cuts if
he just tried to esk exit out of those speeds rushes,
and then he kind of slows down. So I think,
I think that somebody needs to get with him and
really focus on some of those issues. His body control
at his size, the ability to round the corner is
really good. I've noticed on my note it's a shake route.
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A shake route is a hard route you break into
the post and basically a post corner. It's a double
move post corner. But him breaking to the post and
then back out to the corner, I thought there was
excellent quickness getting out, So again, not elite. Everything I
see is like when I see something good from him,
say that's pretty good. But there's nothing I ever see
that that's elite. Maybe is long speed on that eighty
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seven yard er on the high corner touchdown that looked
elite ball tracking in hands, you know, good but not great,
you know, losing some balls in some contested balls at
his size on the go route, and and his run
after the catch.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
Is certainly above level.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
So so those are the aspects that I look, that's
the summary of him he is.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
You know, Look, he's forty two games in his career.
Speaker 9 (14:50):
He's got two games over one hundred yards, and so
I think you're getting kind of a mill a mid
level number two receiver, and you know, and we'll see
how it plays out moving forward.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of excitement
around him.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
But again, like you said, number two guy that you
gave up a fourth and a fifth round draft pick for,
I mean, you know what, what what should the expectations
really be as far as his impact. I mean, I
don't think anyone is running around thinking this guy's the
difference between winning the championship and not. I mean, I
don't think it's that kind of impact. But what kind
of level of impact do you think this kid will bring?
Speaker 9 (15:28):
Well, I think it's gonna help open things up in
terms of the deep layer of the defense if you
can get them out of their back pedal and turning
and run to cover the def the deep ball just
a little quicker. That looks more enticing for Sam Darnold
as he's trying to project the layer that that Jackson
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Smith and Jig was coming in on those intermediates. Obviously,
that's been great thus far. If you can make it
even better, uh that that's all the better. Uh, you know,
there's a depth component. I'm very concerned about Cooper Cup.
What's gonna happen here moving on? You know, so just
basically a three year deal, that's that's in reality more
like a one year deal.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
You can get out of it.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
I think Cooper Cup's impact has been huge in terms
of what he's taught Jackson Smith and Jigm and other
guys on the offense. So he's almost like a coach
that you've acquired. And I wouldn't be surprised if he
is a coach sooner rather than later for the Seahawks.
That's that's just conjecture. But yeah, so I think all that,
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you know, just a thought on the on what you
gave about fourth and fifth round. I went back in
the in John Schneider's tenure, all the fourth and fifth rounders.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
There's exactly fifty of them.
Speaker 9 (16:41):
And I have I color coded the Spreadsheeter and Green
where it say, if go back and do it again,
the obvious one is Cam Chancer, kJ Wright and Richard Sherman.
Then will Thiss leave, Michael Dixon, Kobe Bryant, Rick Wollen,
AJ Barnet, Tory Horton, and Robbie Hughes. But and then
you got a couple of Warren, you know, Quentin Jeff
and Cash Smart, Luke Wilson. But I tell you what,
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there's a lot of Corey Tumors and Jay Howard's and
Chris Harper. So I think you only hit on you know,
ten out of fifty, so you're at about twenty percent. Obviously,
if you with two picks, a fourth and a fifth,
you double your chance in that regard. So so the
list is less impressive than one might think, even though
we say, wait a minute, Tory Orton was a fifth
and Chancer was a four, a fifth.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
And what have you. But there's a lot of other
guys that you don't want.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
So and and here's what I don't think the draft
is regarded by experts to be good for next year.
And then the Seahawks have eleven rookies on their team.
Between the practice cords, I think there's a feeling that
there's a lot of rookies that are gonna come on.
There may not be a lot of spots, and even
guys like Riley Mills. Do not sleep on Riley Mills,
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that fifth round defensive tackle from Notre Dame who had
an ACL It cost some year everybody that guy was
gonna be I tell you what, I studied a lot
of may The defensive tackle went fifth overall to the
Cleveland Browns from Michigan, and the difference between Riley Mills
and him, one guy's fifth overall, one guy's a fifth rounder.
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The look I would say Mason Graham if if I
had to pick one, obviously, but the gap is so thin.
So do not sleep on Riley Mills. I think the
point being they got a lot of young guys that
next year's draft is thought to be very sub average,
and you're willing to give up the fourth and fifth
rounder because of how you like your young guys and
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what you think of next year's draft.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Well, we got two choices here. We can let you
go and enjoy your evening with your lovely wife. No,
you can continue with us and talk to Jacoby Brissett
and more about the Cardinal matchup on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
So you're driving, dude ten and two.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
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Speaker 3 (19:11):
All right, we're back in Madison, Dick and Jackson back
in Seattle. We're here in Wisconsin, across the street from
Camp Randall Stadium for the Dogs and Badgers tomorrow pregame
nine thirty, kickoff one thirty right here on ninety three
to three KJRFM. Humellan rejoins us here for one more segment,
and here before we talk about the game with the
Cardinals Sunday. Titans just released Quandrydiggs, by the way, gave
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him his release, granted that request with Julian Love on
the ir' Quandary Digs a guy that you would look
at to potentially bring back to Seattle.
Speaker 10 (19:43):
Not for me.
Speaker 9 (19:45):
You're talking about thirty two years old, a guy that
I think came in, a good guy. But the idea
in there a song one bad at Apple spoils the
whole bunch, right. I think that you had in mal
Adams he was one of the guys digs who infected.
I can't say with that with one hundred percent uncertainty
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on that, but that that was the sense I get
and kind of you know, from talking to people on
the inside, and so I think time has passed.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Just just let it go.
Speaker 9 (20:18):
I think you've got you know, you've got young guys
that have stepped up. I mean, Tyle Cootta has had
a really really big improvement over the last month since
he's been playing. I'd rather just go with younger guys
that are more committed to the team.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
You know, why does Jacoby Brissette keep showing up in
places and impressing and yet never really gets a chance
to be a starter anywhere.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
Yeah, I think some guys just that they're thought to
be a backup and they you know, they lose more
games than they win. May look that up. I don't
have it in front of me, and I looked at it.
I think he's something like, you know, twenty three and
forty or something, whatever it is. I know he's well
under five hundred and and Yeah, it doesn't surprise me.
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He's kind of one of those cusp guys. You you
could say at any time, there's gonna be guys that
you say are solid starters.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Pick any year, Yeah, go back since nineteen sixty and
he's twenty and thirty six by the way, Huey twenty starters.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (21:13):
Yeah, So you know, you could always say, hey, there's
gonna be the elite guys, there's gonna be fringe starters,
there's gonna be uh fringe backups, there's and there's gonna
be backups that are at the top that really kind
of ought to be starters or fringe starters. But if
they were starters, you're looking to replace him. He's kind
of in that area.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Uh, Humillain is with us?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
You what would be the concern about this cardinal game tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
With the old question that we used to ask Steve Sarkisian,
remember what it was when your head hits the pillows,
sark on Friday night, what's keeping you up, what's what's
what's the what's the point of concern?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
If there is one about this Cardinal game on Sunday for.
Speaker 9 (21:54):
You, Well, I'd say, first of all, defensively, they they
kind of play a little on conventional They remind me
when I was a head coach in you football in
middle school. There there was a year there where I said,
I'm gonna devise a defense where I'm gonna I'm gonna.
I went on the paper and I wrote down, I said,
I want to have every gap covered, every zone covered, with.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Just ten guys. I want to, like, like in soccer,
maybe Jackson can help. Don't you if you get one.
Speaker 9 (22:22):
Guy get a red card, don't you have to play
with ten guys. So what I did is I designed.
I sit down, I go, okay, I've only got ten guys.
But then I took our best player and I said, okay,
we've just devised a ten man defense. And then you
get to do whatever you want. You can blitz if
you want to blitz, you can cover, if you want
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to cover, you can run. You know, just snip be
wherever you want. If you think the sweep is going
left side, just line up on the left side. Go
wherever you want because we've got all our gaps and
all of our significant zones covered. And it's like, that's
what the Cardinals do. With Buddha Baker. That guy is
just kind of all over. Now. He hasn't played as
well this year, but there's times like what the hell
is he doing? It looks there's no player in the
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NFL that I study that looks like he's got a
freelance ticket more than Buddha Baker. So that's a factory.
They play outside leverage down in red zone in a
peculiar sense. So I think that the crossing routes, remember
that Dick if there if Sam Darnold throws a red
zone touchdown on an inbreaking route, just remember I said
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the Cardinals are are way outside leverage over and over again,
and they get beat on that.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
So that's a factor. And then but then I would.
Speaker 9 (23:35):
Say, in a more elevated, you know, view from ten
twenty thousand feet of the Cardinals, I just think the
whole issue with Kyler Murray being replaced.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
By Jacoby Brissett. He's had three good games.
Speaker 9 (23:49):
They just had a hell of a game at Dallas.
You know, Marvin Harrison had seven catches ninety six yards
his best game. You got him Brissett of obviously a
vast differ different style. You know, big guy six foot four,
stand in their big arm, can throw to the outside,
can see over the middle. Now he's not the running threat.
He's gotten hit far more. I'm not going to give
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the numbers, but he's been hit far more than than
Murray has. So I think there's a chance for the
pastors to get after him. But I'm concerned that there's
a galvanizing effect that they think, Hey, in Kyler Murray,
I think he's the worst leader that I've ever seen
play quarterback in the National football Just wow wow. Well,
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let me let me support that because that's a strong statement.
First of all, you go with the independent study clause
that he had in his contract that he had to
study four hours a week. Watch the documentary Tom Versus Time.
He says says, I can six six, sit down in
my desk for six hours and not even get up
to go pee.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
And he's doing that when he's got Giselle one wall
over in the next room.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
And so so for Kyler Murray to have to be
held a onble in a contract, uh Now, it's been
redacted or whatever it is. He's been removed from the contract.
But you can't unknow that fact that they put that
in there. And then you go to all the the
affect h you know, he handles adversity as poorly as anybody.
(25:19):
He drops his head, he bitches it. Guys, go back
and watch the YouTube this one. Uh, Kyler Murray yells
at coach, that's all you gotta put?
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (25:27):
YouTube when he when he undressed undressed Cliff Kingsbury in
a in a game against the Saints in the late
second quarter. I've never ever, ever, ever, ever seen a
quarterback talk to a head coach the way Kyler Murray did. Then, look,
he's bad news near as I can tell.
Speaker 10 (25:44):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Now, maybe maybe he takes.
Speaker 9 (25:46):
Blankets to the homeless and feeds the uh you know
in the winner and feeds the homeless.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
I don't know. Maybe there's some aspect about him. I
don't know, and then I'll happily strike what I'm saying.
But from what I see watching this guy for a
long time.
Speaker 9 (25:59):
He's bad news. And I think that, you know, listen
to Trade McBride. I'll close with this.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Trey McBride's interview with Scott Van Pelt on Monday.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
Night after that game was very revealing, even to the
point that my wife was listening said, Wow, that is
a real shot on Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray's done as
the leader of that team based on on clearly Trey
McBride just just saying all the attributes that he's not
seen from Kyler Murray. So I think that that that
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leadership galvanizing component coming into uh to the game and
how the team feels about it. Where they are with
Jacoby Prissett for the moment. You know, they haven't lost
enough games to lose faith in Jacoby Brissett. There, believer
right now. They're like a guy who thinks that the
gual wants to go home with him.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
You know, some.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
To make a believer, and none of those guys right now.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I got news for you, pal the right amount of money,
they will go home with you. Hugh Millen, great stuff,
we'll talk soon about. Appreciate it all right, take care
of failing with us. A little Fun with Audio next
on ninety three three kJ A r FM.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
It's now time for something in Dick's Fun with Audio.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Jimmy gas Don Jimmy, mister garoppolo.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Now let's have some fun with audio as.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
We continue from the Scottie Bar. Baby Dick, this is
how stupid I am.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
You wonna know how stupid I am.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Okay, I mean I was gonna say something really mean,
but I decided.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
To just say I mean, I deserve it. Trust me
because this is so dumb.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I'm sitting around all day Jackson, You'll love this too.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
What the hell is the whole Scannie bar thing all about?
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (27:45):
Yeah, so is that what they call each other?
Speaker 9 (27:48):
Like?
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Are you Scoannie? Is that what they call him?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I don't have any idea.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I just know that they call the they call Wisconsin
you w. They literally say you double. You guys are
in town to you.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
When we were kids, though, wasn't it weren't we you
W and not you.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
I don't remember us being you Dub when I was
like ten.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Oh you know, I don't know how you do it.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I don't have really any memories of any of that,
so I'll trust your judgments.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
I always thought, like, when I grew up, I I
like who a team you root for? I root for
you W. I don't remember saying you Dub when I
was little.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
It was always you d for me. Okay, I mean
you remember coming out of the womb.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Yeah, here's a tuesday.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I did softing something nearly said.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
That word, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
And it was your mom's too, so I would have
felt terrible, but I was gonna say that. That's what
I was gonna say. All Right, here we go a
little fun with idio slash. Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 7 (28:52):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Dick? All right? What do you say?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Were starting baseball Doctor second Basement World Series Hero when
Toronto's worst enemy, the Jordan Chris rose for an interview
this week and talked about the play in Game seven
where he barely throughout Isaiah kinder Falafa at home at
the bottom of the night.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
One out and a ball gets hit to you and
all right.
Speaker 10 (29:13):
Can you please you please stop stop stop.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
I don't wanna. I don't want to.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Watch his play.
Speaker 10 (29:17):
Why this this gave me a lot of anxiety.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Anxiety.
Speaker 10 (29:22):
Yes, that's something that I yeah, I mean, I have
to be honest, this this get me nervous right here.
I can't I can't watch a play. I mean every
time I watch a play. I feel something in my
stomach because it was like this close to be pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
What was the worst part.
Speaker 10 (29:40):
Yeah, the worst part was that I took about I
took up a route to example. I was lucky that
I put my glove on it and the ball stayed in.
And then I lose my balance and I thought it
was over. When I lost my balance, there everything like
my my my heart dropped. To be honest, I thought
it was over. I thought it was gonna beat it.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I absolutely can sympathize with what he's talking about. How
many of us have moments on our lives where if
one thing goes differently one half inch or the other,
we are in a totally different situation than we're in
right now. Absolutely, car driving a car or whatever. I
remember there was a situation Dick and Jackson. I was
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playing baseball at Bannerwood Stadium in Bellevue, and like a
freaking moron, I'm taking full cuts in the dugout and
I missed the guy's face. I swear to God by
an eighth of an inch with a metal bat. And
if I would have hit him in the face and
he would have been killed, where.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Would I be right?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Now, I mean, dude, it just like it literally sends
a shiver up my spine. Everybody has a moment like that, right,
So I can totally sympathize with Miguel Rojas just completely
wigging out when he thinks about that play and how
close he was to screon it.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
And I'm watching I've just watched it, as you're saying that,
I've watched it like five times in a row.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Here he really does kind.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
Of stumble and bumble his way to that baseball, and
he's off balance, he doesn't have a lot of zip
on it, and my gosh, I mean, yeah, we saw
it was literally an inch from being almost spelled out?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I mean, was it? And if he doesn't make that throw?
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Would there have ever been a guy who went from
hero to goat faster in a World Series game than
McGaugh Rojas?
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Oh yeah, not from hero to goat, no question.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
I mean, it's not the Buckner play because it was
still a tough play. But right, man, oh man, he
just doubled down on his hero status in LA with
that play.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Though, right, unbelievable. All right, hey, Dick, did you happen
to hear that?
Speaker 5 (31:38):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Dick? Let's go to college football.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Bill O'Brien, now the head coach of Boston College, was
asked of the press conference this week by Mike Gualtieri,
a sports podcast hosted New England Thanks for the Fineix
Jackson about his message to fans who are mad with
the team's one and eight record this year, coach wondering,
you've a message with the fans, obviously losing to Nor
Dame Catholic School rival one day now in the season BC,
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I've heard from.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
A lot of fans.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I just really yeah, I'm really glad.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
You know, I'm glad.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
You're down.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I'm not down. Nobody's down. We're fighting, we're competing. You know,
it's the second year of this program.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Mike.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
You always come in here with these.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Down questions, like you show up like once a month
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Come in here with these down questions.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
I'm not down.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I don't know what year you graduated from BC. But
this is a program that we're building.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
Nobody hears down.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
We're positive we're gonna show up and play our asses
off against SMU.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
I will, Yeah, go ahead. That guy shows up once
a month, is that right?
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Yeah, that's what he says anyway.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I mean the question.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
What I don't like is when reporters start to editorialize
their questions like that, Like, Bill, what do you say
to fans that are down about losing to Notre Dame
Catholic rival that you know, when you lose to them,
fans want to walk in the traffic and you know,
just completely slip their throats and they hate your guts,
And I'm like, come on, man, just get to the
point right. That drives me freaking crazy. But I mean,
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they're won what's their record? They won an eight and.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
They went seven and six last year, so they're going backwards.
I'd say, Bill, you're going backwards. It's not like Jed
Fish going from six and seven to whatever nine ten
wins he's gonna have this year.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
It's a perfectly reasonable question. I could see how a
guy would be a little bit ticked off with the approach,
especially if it was after a game and he was emotional, right,
But absolutely, I mean, could you imagine it's.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
The almost trick in the book.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
What do you say to fans that are angry about
the team's performance?
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Bill, Not that I am, but they are, Bill, how angry.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Would we be if Jed went six and seven last
year and he turned it around and went one and
eight to start this.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Season, yeah, he'd be getting crushed by including us.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
All Right, hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 5 (33:50):
What's that?
Speaker 7 (33:50):
Dick?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
ESPN's Mina Kimes joining Kevin Clark's This Is Football podcast
yesterday and was asked which one opinion she would want
to take back, which is, of course her take last
offseason the Hawks could not upgrade from Gino Smith at quarterback.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I got old takes.
Speaker 11 (34:07):
I getting old takes like every day on this It's
that the Seahawks wouldn't be able to upgrade at quarterback because,
to be fair, I sent that after they traded Gino
before they actually did anything, so it wasn't an anti
Sam Darnald take.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
At the time. I was just like, what are they
gonna do?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
They're not gonna get better at quarterback.
Speaker 11 (34:25):
So obviously, Gino Smith has struggled this year, and Sam
Darnald has been unbelievable. I know he had some good
games last year, but I'm telling you, somebod who watched
you know him very closely, he was kind of inconsistent
last season. Even before the final two games of the season.
He's been incredible this year and it's been an absolute
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joy to watch this season.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Mena comes, thank you pal.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
I'll eat that l So, I here's my deal, man.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I don't have any problem with people that would say,
you know what, let's see Sam Darnold do it again. Right,
it's one year out of six, let's see if he
can do it again. What I didn't understand, and I
said this on the air, and I think Dick you
had the kind of the same take. What was it
about Geno Smith that you saw that led you to
believe that that's the best the Seahawks could do?
Speaker 10 (35:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Right?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
That was what was kind of confounding to me.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
And I guess, guys, honestly, what I really appreciate about
John Schneider and these Seahawks is that, you know what,
they could have stuck with Gino.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
He was okay, he wasn't terrible. He was okay, but.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
He's getting worse every year.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
That's my thing, right, But they but they could have
stuck with him. They could have said, you know what,
let's let's fix the offensive line. Yep, let's get this
guy some weapons, and let's just stay with him.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
I think, and I think.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
But they wanted to be great, and they took a chance,
and now they have a chance to be great.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
But I do think that if you get twenty twenty two,
Gino in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, he's
probably the quarterback in twenty twenty five. But I don't
think enough people realize how much worse he actually got
each and every year he was a Seahawk.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Well, the turnovers in the red zone are just a
killer man, and that's again part of the reason why
they got rid of him. And look, we saw Sam Donald,
you know, lose a game in the opener because he
fumbled the ball in the red zone. Now, partly Abe
Lucas's fault, I get that, but that's one thing.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I think. There's I think there's two things that we're
waiting to see if Sam Darnald can clean up.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Number one, those turnovers and number two, everybody is waiting.
Everybody the biggest Sam Donald critics, Oh yeah, that are
left on Sam left on Sam Donald sucks Island.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
What are they waiting for?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Show me what he does in the playoffs, right, show
me what he does in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
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All right, we're back inside the Skyey Bar outside Camp
Randall Stadium in Wisconsin, and Dick Fane, You're not gonna
believe this.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
There is a buttload of Husky fans here. That is a.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Technical term, technical term of Husky fans here at the.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Sky more lesson than a plethora.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It is way more than a plethora. It's also way
more than a crapload. By the way, it's a buttload.
And actually one guy here is wearing a humill in
Jersey as we speak.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I sir, your name and where you're from. My name's
Alex Plateau from Mercer Island, Washington.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
And your favorite ex Husky quarterback is Hugh is Why
is that great quarterback throw the ball?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Very well?
Speaker 6 (01:04):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I love that all right, Hueie, you got some fans here.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Man, you like that analysis there? He's a good quarterback,
could throw the ball.
Speaker 7 (01:11):
Good job you god?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I is why you know that the people, the people
have not forgotten.
Speaker 7 (01:18):
About my own. He might be on a one island
of one. I'm not kicking him off.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Well let's uh, let's get some thoughts because we're here.
We'll talk Hawks in a minute. But how about this
DW U dub game tomorrow?
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
U W versus you dub the Badgers and the Huskies
tomorrow a a offensively challenged you Badger team that has
scored one touchdown their last thirty offensive drives. I mean,
I don't know, man, you put yourself in the shoes
of a current Husky football player. I'm sure you played
games like this back in the day where your opponent
was kind of wounded a little bit.
Speaker 8 (01:52):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
What do you make of what we're about to see
tomorrow in Madison?
Speaker 9 (01:56):
Well, it's kind of surprising how far they've fallen down.
And Barry Alvarez, I think on some level, you know,
he developed a program that had some qualities similar to
Washington and Don James. There was an emphasis on the defense,
offensive line, toughness, don't beat yourself. So I think it
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wasn't just they both have a w on the helmets.
I think there were some style similarities. That's maybe a
long time ago. I would just say this iteration, this
Hunter Simpson. I watched some game tape, you know, I'll
just put it like this. I got drafted to the Rams.
We were in the same division of as the forty
nine ers, and then, in an act of complete geographic
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incoherence to the Falcons, were put in the NFC West
as well. I played on them. So played the forty
nine Ers twice a year, watched a ton of opponent studies.
So I've watched Joe Montana's prime and it used to
bother the hell out of me how easy it looked
to play the position.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
Because I look at Montana, I was like, he's not.
Speaker 9 (03:00):
That big, skinny Calves moves good, but not in a
Lamar Jackson or even stun Steve Young kind of way,
Like why does he make it look so easy?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
Well, I would say this, this Hunter Simpson.
Speaker 9 (03:11):
It's been a long time since I've seen a guy
who makes quarterbacking look so hard.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Everything he's not even supposed to be playing for christ.
Speaker 9 (03:26):
Well, I'm just telling you he's the guy who's under
centered for the Wisconsin Badgers, all right, So don't tell
me about the pain, show me the baby, and.
Speaker 7 (03:33):
So I would just I just look.
Speaker 9 (03:35):
Look, he's late with everything, he's inaccurate, he throws to
the wrong guy. He throws I don't know, it's it's
it's a mister. I'll say this. I'll close with this
on him. The Pro Football Focus has three hundred and
twenty five quarterbacks that they've given a grade to.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Hunter Simmons is graded three twenty fourth.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Oh jeez, So I don't want to know the guy.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
Who's three twenty five.
Speaker 9 (04:02):
But at any event, now, they do run the stretch,
the outside zone that the Seahawks have been trying to get.
You know that they can kind of hurt you, make
you a little nervous, bite some fingernails with that outside zone.
Washington's gonna have to stop that on the edge. But
this shouldn't be on paper much of a challenge.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
So because of that horrible offense, there's a couple of
ways to look at it. You can just say, hey,
we're just gonna we're gonna play conservative, We're gonna run
the ball, we're gonna score our twenty points, we're gonna
use the punt to our advantage, and we're gonna get
out of there with a twenty to seven victory. Or
do you just want to go bombs away, fast paced,
lots of possessions. But you could also be turning it
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over playing like that and giving that horrible offense a
short field where they actually could score touchdowns.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
What should be Jed Fish's at m O Tomarrow offensive.
Speaker 9 (04:49):
I think you should put the hammer down. I mean,
I think just you know, you know, just go after him.
I think that they have in their offense Wisconsin so
feeble that I think that if you make mistakes, you
should be able to cover for it your defense. So
I would say I'll gas no breaks, man, Just let's go,
(05:10):
Let's try and put points up, and you know, just
develop a cohesion over the next few weeks and get
ready to be.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
Playing at our prime when we host Oregon.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Can I throw a curveball at you at least?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
All?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Right?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You mentioned Oregon, Oregon, Iowa, Oregon, Iowa tomorrow from Kinnick.
A lot of people wonder is it in Washington's best
interest to actually root for Oregon wak to beat Iowa
to make that game in late November as meaningful as possible.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You know my take on it.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I've always said, hell no, let's find another way, find
another way. The problem is, with this year's schedule, there's
not a lot of other ways left. Pal That Oregon
game is about all there is as far as quality
opponents left on their schedule. So I guess number one,
you've seen Oregon play, what do you make it tomorrow's game?
And as a lifelong Husky fan, are you calling for
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the Ducks tomorrow?
Speaker 9 (06:02):
Well, I think it's okay a fan, how you want
a fan? I think that there's a real possibility that
this team could be, you know, sitting there as a
two lost team Washington going in and playing at home
against an Oregon team, and and yeah, playing for the
right to play in the playoffs. So I think that
I think for me, I think the logic would win out.
(06:24):
And clearly, if you're just going logic, then then you
would root for Oregon tomorrow. But I certainly understand if
the visceral hatred prevents anybody from doing that. I've experienced
a good part of my life in that regard. But
I think, you know, for me, I think Oregon needs
to win so that it makes for a more convincing
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Washington win when they beat the Ducks and the candidacy
to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
I see it as a no lose situation.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Either we get to laugh in Oregon's face or something
good happens to me.
Speaker 9 (06:55):
So there you go some people and say it's a
it's a it's a lose lose because it's but.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I get it.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
I like your thinking.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
You would just say this, that's the smartest thing you've
ever said.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I appreciate that. But it's a compliment, man.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
You I got one more on the dogs.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Uh how much of the UUBS run game struggles that
we saw for three or four weeks there were because
of Carver, Willis and Mills being out, And how much
of it was something that goes a little deeper than that.
Speaker 9 (07:33):
Well, it's a big part of it, particularly when they
ran to the left side. I think when they ran
the stretch to the right, I think it was less
of a factor.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
Uh so, so I I.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
Think there's elements of that. I expect them to run
the ball better. I think there's a philosophy there but
you know, it seemed like there was always somebody was
just you know, missing a block, and it wasn't necessarily
the offensive line. You know, oftentimes wide receivers they come
in and they don't root out the I think those
times where they were ineffective running to the right side.
(08:04):
You know, you know, it's not Joanah Coleman's fault if
you give him a window. But I do think that
being able to rely on you know, on the on
the the running place to the left and then featuring
him mobile right handed quarterback, who, of course Demond Williams is.
I think that's a nice compliment. I'd rather be good
running to the left than running to the right for
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that reason.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well, I do have one more on the Huskies, and
it involves a conversation that Dick and I had last segment.
All of us have had this conversation before, Hugh. But
you know, there's a little smoke about Jetfish to UCLA.
There's some reports out there that says he's got interest,
some reports out there that says that UCLA has interest.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I know that Rick new heisl a week ago.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I think it was Dick said if Jetfish wanted the
UCLA job he could have it. There's one update that
says that you know, his wife doesn't like it in Seattle. Well,
you know, look, I mean his wife announced on Facebook
two months ago, Hugh, that she was taking the kids
to Tucson to finish their high school career in Arizona.
So that's not exactly breaking new ground because Amber has
(09:08):
admitted she was going back to Arizona. But I guess,
how convinced are you that Jetfish is more fifty to
fifty for this job next year, and how convinced are
you that he's a serious candidate for the UCLA gig.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
Well, all we can do is make inference. Is we
can take an an ensemble of facts and we can
put them together and say, okay, what best describes and
checks all of the boxes with those ensembled facts.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Well, okay, the fact that.
Speaker 9 (09:39):
Our head coach's wife is living fifteen hundred miles away,
that's a concern for a Husky fan who wants Jetfish
to remain the Husky coach, right, I mean, Caeryl James
wasn't living fifteen hundred miles away. You know, I know
a little bit about UCLA. You know, my roommate from
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college was the head coach there, you know, at a
time when Fish was the offensive coordinator. And I think
that it was regarded to be somewhat common knowledge that
she liked the Manhattan beach scene and whatever. I cannot
speak for her as far as I know. She's a delightful,
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charming lady. But she's from a Rolette, Texas. And you know,
that's that's twenty minutes outside of Dallas. That's like being
Issaguada Seattle. They have different politics down there, they have
different weather down there. I've lived there as a cowboy,
and I was a ram in Orange County. Dallas. Just
the scene feels a lot like Orange County. And and
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and I think some of it is hard of us.
For some of us, I grew up less, you know,
twenty blocks from uh Husky Stadium. It's hard for some
of us to not think of how desirable Seattle is.
But you know what for some outsiders and did Fish
grew you know, grew up less than an hour for
Manhattan in New Jersey. And as they said his wife,
Seattle may not be for everybody. And yet and and
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some coaches will say, listen, I'm gonna coach wherever is
the best place for me and our family, period, end
of story. Other coaches will say, honey, where do you
need to be? I'll just tell you this. If I
had chosen to go coaching me as a Seattle and
Western Coast guy, and and this is just a hypothetical,
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and I had a chance to coach Penn State, but
my wife really needed to be me to be to
take the Miami Hurricane job because that was that fitter stuff.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
Would I rather coach? Now, now I understand this analogy.
Speaker 9 (11:42):
I've just put Penn State as as Washington and College
Park as Seattle. I was gonna say Rutgers, but then
you'd say, wait a minute, Rutgers doesn't have Washingtons football history.
Just work with me on the analogys. My point is this,
I would rather coach in Miami and live with my
wife where and where.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
She's happy, absolutely right.
Speaker 9 (12:03):
Me being from Seattle, then be coaching fifteen hundred miles
away from my wife. And then so it's you know,
it's personal values. There's no right or wrong. But if
you don't think that this is something that is topical
for Husky fans, I can't help you. Just go on
Amberfish's Instagram. Seems like a charming, delightful woman, love everything
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about what radiates her energy. But does she look more
UCLA or does she look more University of Washington when
you look at the instagram?
Speaker 7 (12:35):
I don't know. I mean this is fair discussions to have,
given that they.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Don't live together, right right, Hugh?
Speaker 6 (12:43):
And last we left you, you the last words out
of your mouth was I can't believe you didn't ask
me about Rashid Shaheed's wide receiver attributes. So I have
it starved and circled and bolded. Give me Rashid Shaheed's
wide receiver attributes.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
Yeah, at five ten and a half, you know his release,
He's got to do it with quickness. He can get
jammed up if he's the X meaning tether did the
line of scrimmage. So I think sometimes his release with
quickness is good. Sometimes he gets swallowed up by some
longer armed guys. As far as his routes, there's a quickness,
a sewing, machigue and quality to some of his routes,
Like when he runs acute routes where he's running up
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the field and then he has to stop and then
come back to the quarterback. There's a quickness there that's
certainly above level. I don't want to say elite, but
very very good.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
Now, when he.
Speaker 9 (13:30):
Does speed cuts, there's a certain technique. It's very fixable,
very fixable. When he does a speed cut, he throws
his shoulder around, he opens up his body too much.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
That's like putting a parachute on.
Speaker 9 (13:42):
And he would be faster out of his cuts if
he just tried to esk exit out of those speeds rushes,
and then he kind of slows down. So I think,
I think that somebody needs to get with him and
really focus on some of those issues. His body control
at his size, the ability to round the corner is
really good. I've noticed on my note it's a shake route.
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A shake route is a hard route you break into
the post and basically a post corner. It's a double
move post corner. But him breaking to the post and
then back out to the corner, I thought there was
excellent quickness getting out, So again, not elite. Everything I
see is like when I see something good from him,
say that's pretty good. But there's nothing I ever see
that that's elite. Maybe is long speed on that eighty
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seven yard er on the high corner touchdown that looked
elite ball tracking in hands, you know, good but not great,
you know, losing some balls in some contested balls at
his size on the go route, and and his run
after the catch.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
Is certainly above level.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
So so those are the aspects that I look, that's
the summary of him he is.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
You know, Look, he's forty two games in his career.
Speaker 9 (14:50):
He's got two games over one hundred yards, and so
I think you're getting kind of a mill a mid
level number two receiver, and you know, and we'll see
how it plays out moving forward.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of excitement
around him.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
But again, like you said, number two guy that you
gave up a fourth and a fifth round draft pick for,
I mean, you know what, what what should the expectations
really be as far as his impact. I mean, I
don't think anyone is running around thinking this guy's the
difference between winning the championship and not. I mean, I
don't think it's that kind of impact. But what kind
of level of impact do you think this kid will bring?
Speaker 9 (15:28):
Well, I think it's gonna help open things up in
terms of the deep layer of the defense if you
can get them out of their back pedal and turning
and run to cover the def the deep ball just
a little quicker. That looks more enticing for Sam Darnold
as he's trying to project the layer that that Jackson
(15:49):
Smith and Jig was coming in on those intermediates. Obviously,
that's been great thus far. If you can make it
even better, uh that that's all the better. Uh, you know,
there's a depth component. I'm very concerned about Cooper Cup.
What's gonna happen here moving on? You know, so just
basically a three year deal, that's that's in reality more
like a one year deal.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
You can get out of it.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
I think Cooper Cup's impact has been huge in terms
of what he's taught Jackson Smith and Jigm and other
guys on the offense. So he's almost like a coach
that you've acquired. And I wouldn't be surprised if he
is a coach sooner rather than later for the Seahawks.
That's that's just conjecture. But yeah, so I think all that,
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you know, just a thought on the on what you
gave about fourth and fifth round. I went back in
the in John Schneider's tenure, all the fourth and fifth rounders.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
There's exactly fifty of them.
Speaker 9 (16:41):
And I have I color coded the Spreadsheeter and Green
where it say, if go back and do it again,
the obvious one is Cam Chancer, kJ Wright and Richard Sherman.
Then will Thiss leave, Michael Dixon, Kobe Bryant, Rick Wollen,
AJ Barnet, Tory Horton, and Robbie Hughes. But and then
you got a couple of Warren, you know, Quentin Jeff
and Cash Smart, Luke Wilson. But I tell you what,
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there's a lot of Corey Tumors and Jay Howard's and
Chris Harper. So I think you only hit on you know,
ten out of fifty, so you're at about twenty percent. Obviously,
if you with two picks, a fourth and a fifth,
you double your chance in that regard. So so the
list is less impressive than one might think, even though
we say, wait a minute, Tory Orton was a fifth
and Chancer was a four, a fifth.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
And what have you. But there's a lot of other
guys that you don't want.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
So and and here's what I don't think the draft
is regarded by experts to be good for next year.
And then the Seahawks have eleven rookies on their team.
Between the practice cords, I think there's a feeling that
there's a lot of rookies that are gonna come on.
There may not be a lot of spots, and even
guys like Riley Mills. Do not sleep on Riley Mills,
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that fifth round defensive tackle from Notre Dame who had
an ACL It cost some year everybody that guy was
gonna be I tell you what, I studied a lot
of may The defensive tackle went fifth overall to the
Cleveland Browns from Michigan, and the difference between Riley Mills
and him, one guy's fifth overall, one guy's a fifth rounder.
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The look I would say Mason Graham if if I
had to pick one, obviously, but the gap is so thin.
So do not sleep on Riley Mills. I think the
point being they got a lot of young guys that
next year's draft is thought to be very sub average,
and you're willing to give up the fourth and fifth
rounder because of how you like your young guys and
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what you think of next year's draft.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Well, we got two choices here. We can let you
go and enjoy your evening with your lovely wife. No,
you can continue with us and talk to Jacoby Brissett
and more about the Cardinal matchup on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
So you're driving, dude ten and two.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
All right, you're going till seven o'clock more next ninety
three to three KJRFM.
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Speaker 3 (19:11):
All right, we're back in Madison, Dick and Jackson back
in Seattle. We're here in Wisconsin, across the street from
Camp Randall Stadium for the Dogs and Badgers tomorrow pregame
nine thirty, kickoff one thirty right here on ninety three
to three KJRFM. Humellan rejoins us here for one more segment,
and here before we talk about the game with the
Cardinals Sunday. Titans just released Quandrydiggs, by the way, gave
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him his release, granted that request with Julian Love on
the ir' Quandary Digs a guy that you would look
at to potentially bring back to Seattle.
Speaker 10 (19:43):
Not for me.
Speaker 9 (19:45):
You're talking about thirty two years old, a guy that
I think came in, a good guy. But the idea
in there a song one bad at Apple spoils the
whole bunch, right. I think that you had in mal
Adams he was one of the guys digs who infected.
I can't say with that with one hundred percent uncertainty
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on that, but that that was the sense I get
and kind of you know, from talking to people on
the inside, and so I think time has passed.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Just just let it go.
Speaker 9 (20:18):
I think you've got you know, you've got young guys
that have stepped up. I mean, Tyle Cootta has had
a really really big improvement over the last month since
he's been playing. I'd rather just go with younger guys
that are more committed to the team.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
You know, why does Jacoby Brissette keep showing up in
places and impressing and yet never really gets a chance
to be a starter anywhere.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
Yeah, I think some guys just that they're thought to
be a backup and they you know, they lose more
games than they win. May look that up. I don't
have it in front of me, and I looked at it.
I think he's something like, you know, twenty three and
forty or something, whatever it is. I know he's well
under five hundred and and Yeah, it doesn't surprise me.
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He's kind of one of those cusp guys. You you
could say at any time, there's gonna be guys that
you say are solid starters.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Pick any year, Yeah, go back since nineteen sixty and
he's twenty and thirty six by the way, Huey twenty starters.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (21:13):
Yeah, So you know, you could always say, hey, there's
gonna be the elite guys, there's gonna be fringe starters,
there's gonna be uh fringe backups, there's and there's gonna
be backups that are at the top that really kind
of ought to be starters or fringe starters. But if
they were starters, you're looking to replace him. He's kind
of in that area.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Uh, Humillain is with us?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
You what would be the concern about this cardinal game tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
With the old question that we used to ask Steve Sarkisian,
remember what it was when your head hits the pillows,
sark on Friday night, what's keeping you up, what's what's
what's the what's the point of concern?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
If there is one about this Cardinal game on Sunday for.
Speaker 9 (21:54):
You, Well, I'd say, first of all, defensively, they they
kind of play a little on conventional They remind me
when I was a head coach in you football in
middle school. There there was a year there where I said,
I'm gonna devise a defense where I'm gonna I'm gonna.
I went on the paper and I wrote down, I said,
I want to have every gap covered, every zone covered, with.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Just ten guys. I want to, like, like in soccer,
maybe Jackson can help. Don't you if you get one.
Speaker 9 (22:22):
Guy get a red card, don't you have to play
with ten guys. So what I did is I designed.
I sit down, I go, okay, I've only got ten guys.
But then I took our best player and I said, okay,
we've just devised a ten man defense. And then you
get to do whatever you want. You can blitz if
you want to blitz, you can cover, if you want
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to cover, you can run. You know, just snip be
wherever you want. If you think the sweep is going
left side, just line up on the left side. Go
wherever you want because we've got all our gaps and
all of our significant zones covered. And it's like, that's
what the Cardinals do. With Buddha Baker. That guy is
just kind of all over. Now. He hasn't played as
well this year, but there's times like what the hell
is he doing? It looks there's no player in the
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NFL that I study that looks like he's got a
freelance ticket more than Buddha Baker. So that's a factory.
They play outside leverage down in red zone in a
peculiar sense. So I think that the crossing routes, remember
that Dick if there if Sam Darnold throws a red
zone touchdown on an inbreaking route, just remember I said
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the Cardinals are are way outside leverage over and over again,
and they get beat on that.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
So that's a factor. And then but then I would.
Speaker 9 (23:35):
Say, in a more elevated, you know, view from ten
twenty thousand feet of the Cardinals, I just think the
whole issue with Kyler Murray being replaced.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
By Jacoby Brissett. He's had three good games.
Speaker 9 (23:49):
They just had a hell of a game at Dallas.
You know, Marvin Harrison had seven catches ninety six yards
his best game. You got him Brissett of obviously a
vast differ different style. You know, big guy six foot four,
stand in their big arm, can throw to the outside,
can see over the middle. Now he's not the running threat.
He's gotten hit far more. I'm not going to give
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the numbers, but he's been hit far more than than
Murray has. So I think there's a chance for the
pastors to get after him. But I'm concerned that there's
a galvanizing effect that they think, Hey, in Kyler Murray,
I think he's the worst leader that I've ever seen
play quarterback in the National football Just wow wow. Well,
(24:32):
let me let me support that because that's a strong statement.
First of all, you go with the independent study clause
that he had in his contract that he had to
study four hours a week. Watch the documentary Tom Versus Time.
He says says, I can six six, sit down in
my desk for six hours and not even get up
to go pee.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
And he's doing that when he's got Giselle one wall
over in the next room.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
And so so for Kyler Murray to have to be
held a onble in a contract, uh Now, it's been
redacted or whatever it is. He's been removed from the contract.
But you can't unknow that fact that they put that
in there. And then you go to all the the
affect h you know, he handles adversity as poorly as anybody.
(25:19):
He drops his head, he bitches it. Guys, go back
and watch the YouTube this one. Uh, Kyler Murray yells
at coach, that's all you gotta put?
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (25:27):
YouTube when he when he undressed undressed Cliff Kingsbury in
a in a game against the Saints in the late
second quarter. I've never ever, ever, ever, ever seen a
quarterback talk to a head coach the way Kyler Murray did. Then, look,
he's bad news near as I can tell.
Speaker 10 (25:44):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Now, maybe maybe he takes.
Speaker 9 (25:46):
Blankets to the homeless and feeds the uh you know
in the winner and feeds the homeless.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
I don't know. Maybe there's some aspect about him. I
don't know, and then I'll happily strike what I'm saying.
But from what I see watching this guy for a
long time.
Speaker 9 (25:59):
He's bad news. And I think that, you know, listen
to Trade McBride. I'll close with this.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Trey McBride's interview with Scott Van Pelt on Monday.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
Night after that game was very revealing, even to the
point that my wife was listening said, Wow, that is
a real shot on Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray's done as
the leader of that team based on on clearly Trey
McBride just just saying all the attributes that he's not
seen from Kyler Murray. So I think that that that
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leadership galvanizing component coming into uh to the game and
how the team feels about it. Where they are with
Jacoby Prissett for the moment. You know, they haven't lost
enough games to lose faith in Jacoby Brissett. There, believer
right now. They're like a guy who thinks that the
gual wants to go home with him.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
You know, some.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
To make a believer, and none of those guys right now.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I got news for you, pal the right amount of money,
they will go home with you. Hugh Millen, great stuff,
we'll talk soon about. Appreciate it all right, take care
of failing with us. A little Fun with Audio next
on ninety three three kJ A r FM.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
It's now time for something in Dick's Fun with Audio.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Jimmy gas Don Jimmy, mister garoppolo.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Now let's have some fun with audio as.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
We continue from the Scottie Bar. Baby Dick, this is
how stupid I am.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
You wonna know how stupid I am.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Okay, I mean I was gonna say something really mean,
but I decided.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
To just say I mean, I deserve it. Trust me
because this is so dumb.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I'm sitting around all day Jackson, You'll love this too.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
What the hell is the whole Scannie bar thing all about?
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (27:45):
Yeah, so is that what they call each other?
Speaker 9 (27:48):
Like?
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Are you Scoannie? Is that what they call him?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I don't have any idea.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I just know that they call the they call Wisconsin
you w. They literally say you double. You guys are
in town to you.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
When we were kids, though, wasn't it weren't we you
W and not you.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
I don't remember us being you Dub when I was
like ten.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Oh you know, I don't know how you do it.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I don't have really any memories of any of that,
so I'll trust your judgments.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
I always thought, like, when I grew up, I I
like who a team you root for? I root for
you W. I don't remember saying you Dub when I
was little.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
It was always you d for me. Okay, I mean
you remember coming out of the womb.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Yeah, here's a tuesday.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I did softing something nearly said.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
That word, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
And it was your mom's too, so I would have
felt terrible, but I was gonna say that. That's what
I was gonna say. All Right, here we go a
little fun with idio slash. Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 7 (28:52):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Dick? All right? What do you say?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Were starting baseball Doctor second Basement World Series Hero when
Toronto's worst enemy, the Jordan Chris rose for an interview
this week and talked about the play in Game seven
where he barely throughout Isaiah kinder Falafa at home at
the bottom of the night.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
One out and a ball gets hit to you and
all right.
Speaker 10 (29:13):
Can you please you please stop stop stop.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
I don't wanna. I don't want to.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Watch his play.
Speaker 10 (29:17):
Why this this gave me a lot of anxiety.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Anxiety.
Speaker 10 (29:22):
Yes, that's something that I yeah, I mean, I have
to be honest, this this get me nervous right here.
I can't I can't watch a play. I mean every
time I watch a play. I feel something in my
stomach because it was like this close to be pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
What was the worst part.
Speaker 10 (29:40):
Yeah, the worst part was that I took about I
took up a route to example. I was lucky that
I put my glove on it and the ball stayed in.
And then I lose my balance and I thought it
was over. When I lost my balance, there everything like
my my my heart dropped. To be honest, I thought
it was over. I thought it was gonna beat it.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I absolutely can sympathize with what he's talking about. How
many of us have moments on our lives where if
one thing goes differently one half inch or the other,
we are in a totally different situation than we're in
right now. Absolutely, car driving a car or whatever. I
remember there was a situation Dick and Jackson. I was
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playing baseball at Bannerwood Stadium in Bellevue, and like a
freaking moron, I'm taking full cuts in the dugout and
I missed the guy's face. I swear to God by
an eighth of an inch with a metal bat. And
if I would have hit him in the face and
he would have been killed, where.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Would I be right?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Now, I mean, dude, it just like it literally sends
a shiver up my spine. Everybody has a moment like that, right,
So I can totally sympathize with Miguel Rojas just completely
wigging out when he thinks about that play and how
close he was to screon it.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
And I'm watching I've just watched it, as you're saying that,
I've watched it like five times in a row.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Here he really does kind.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
Of stumble and bumble his way to that baseball, and
he's off balance, he doesn't have a lot of zip
on it, and my gosh, I mean, yeah, we saw
it was literally an inch from being almost spelled out?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I mean, was it? And if he doesn't make that throw?
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Would there have ever been a guy who went from
hero to goat faster in a World Series game than
McGaugh Rojas?
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Oh yeah, not from hero to goat, no question.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
I mean, it's not the Buckner play because it was
still a tough play. But right, man, oh man, he
just doubled down on his hero status in LA with
that play.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Though, right, unbelievable. All right, hey, Dick, did you happen
to hear that?
Speaker 5 (31:38):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Dick? Let's go to college football.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Bill O'Brien, now the head coach of Boston College, was
asked of the press conference this week by Mike Gualtieri,
a sports podcast hosted New England Thanks for the Fineix
Jackson about his message to fans who are mad with
the team's one and eight record this year, coach wondering,
you've a message with the fans, obviously losing to Nor
Dame Catholic School rival one day now in the season BC,
(32:04):
I've heard from.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
A lot of fans.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I just really yeah, I'm really glad.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
You know, I'm glad.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
You're down.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I'm not down. Nobody's down. We're fighting, we're competing. You know,
it's the second year of this program.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Mike.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
You always come in here with these.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Down questions, like you show up like once a month
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Come in here with these down questions.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
I'm not down.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I don't know what year you graduated from BC. But
this is a program that we're building.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
Nobody hears down.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
We're positive we're gonna show up and play our asses
off against SMU.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
I will, Yeah, go ahead. That guy shows up once
a month, is that right?
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Yeah, that's what he says anyway.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I mean the question.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
What I don't like is when reporters start to editorialize
their questions like that, Like, Bill, what do you say
to fans that are down about losing to Notre Dame
Catholic rival that you know, when you lose to them,
fans want to walk in the traffic and you know,
just completely slip their throats and they hate your guts,
And I'm like, come on, man, just get to the
point right. That drives me freaking crazy. But I mean,
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they're won what's their record? They won an eight and.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
They went seven and six last year, so they're going backwards.
I'd say, Bill, you're going backwards. It's not like Jed
Fish going from six and seven to whatever nine ten
wins he's gonna have this year.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
It's a perfectly reasonable question. I could see how a
guy would be a little bit ticked off with the approach,
especially if it was after a game and he was emotional, right,
But absolutely, I mean, could you imagine it's.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
The almost trick in the book.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
What do you say to fans that are angry about
the team's performance?
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Bill, Not that I am, but they are, Bill, how angry.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Would we be if Jed went six and seven last
year and he turned it around and went one and
eight to start this.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Season, yeah, he'd be getting crushed by including us.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
All Right, hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 5 (33:50):
What's that?
Speaker 7 (33:50):
Dick?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
ESPN's Mina Kimes joining Kevin Clark's This Is Football podcast
yesterday and was asked which one opinion she would want
to take back, which is, of course her take last
offseason the Hawks could not upgrade from Gino Smith at quarterback.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I got old takes.
Speaker 11 (34:07):
I getting old takes like every day on this It's
that the Seahawks wouldn't be able to upgrade at quarterback because,
to be fair, I sent that after they traded Gino
before they actually did anything, so it wasn't an anti
Sam Darnald take.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
At the time. I was just like, what are they
gonna do?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
They're not gonna get better at quarterback.
Speaker 11 (34:25):
So obviously, Gino Smith has struggled this year, and Sam
Darnald has been unbelievable. I know he had some good
games last year, but I'm telling you, somebod who watched
you know him very closely, he was kind of inconsistent
last season. Even before the final two games of the season.
He's been incredible this year and it's been an absolute
(34:48):
joy to watch this season.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Mena comes, thank you pal.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
I'll eat that l So, I here's my deal, man.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I don't have any problem with people that would say,
you know what, let's see Sam Darnold do it again. Right,
it's one year out of six, let's see if he
can do it again. What I didn't understand, and I
said this on the air, and I think Dick you
had the kind of the same take. What was it
about Geno Smith that you saw that led you to
believe that that's the best the Seahawks could do?
Speaker 10 (35:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Right?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
That was what was kind of confounding to me.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
And I guess, guys, honestly, what I really appreciate about
John Schneider and these Seahawks is that, you know what,
they could have stuck with Gino.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
He was okay, he wasn't terrible. He was okay, but.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
He's getting worse every year.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
That's my thing, right, But they but they could have
stuck with him. They could have said, you know what,
let's let's fix the offensive line. Yep, let's get this
guy some weapons, and let's just stay with him.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
I think, and I think.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
But they wanted to be great, and they took a chance,
and now they have a chance to be great.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
But I do think that if you get twenty twenty two,
Gino in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, he's
probably the quarterback in twenty twenty five. But I don't
think enough people realize how much worse he actually got
each and every year he was a Seahawk.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Well, the turnovers in the red zone are just a
killer man, and that's again part of the reason why
they got rid of him. And look, we saw Sam Donald,
you know, lose a game in the opener because he
fumbled the ball in the red zone. Now, partly Abe
Lucas's fault, I get that, but that's one thing.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I think. There's I think there's two things that we're
waiting to see if Sam Darnald can clean up.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Number one, those turnovers and number two, everybody is waiting.
Everybody the biggest Sam Donald critics, Oh yeah, that are
left on Sam left on Sam Donald sucks Island.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
What are they waiting for?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Show me what he does in the playoffs, right, show
me what he does in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
So we'll see five point fifty six. We're gonna break
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