December 10, 2025 • 40 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler talks to Kevin Harlan about the Colts quarterback situation, Seahawks Super Bowl hopes, and AFC quarterbacks, then Dick Fain rejoins to discuss Sherrone Moore’s horrible situation before they have some Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
He are NFL champions.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
The Seeattlesyhawks have one Super Bowl forty eight.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
As part of our non stop coverage of the NFL,
this is Softy's weekly visit with Kevin harlantin.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
He's a pulldover. He's a piece brought.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
To you by Twin Peaks in tuck Willa open every
Sunday morning just in time for kickoff.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It was like a pinball hanging off putty. He's up
twenty three yard catch it.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Run catch every game, every bite and every sip only
at Twin Peaks.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Duck Willa hit the touchdown, Hit the touchdown. HiT's crab
bike curse.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Now with Kevin, here's soft and the shotgun formation hurts.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Let's over the events. Shotgun snap five man rush flips.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
His on pat. It's inter icted up the middle of
the twenty coming.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
To the near side twenty five.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Then the players hit the ball, Charge three hurts picking.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Up, he loses the ball. The ball's rolling.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Here's sideline recovered at the forty five. As they try
to untangle the bodies, the Chargers have gotten the ball.
I think everybody touched that ball on the play, bouncing
from one player to the next.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Good lord, what a call. Holy cow, what a call.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Jalen Hurts not one, but two turnovers on one play
and the Eagles loss on Monday night.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
And nobody, and I mean.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
Nobody could have called that play better than my friend
from the NFL in Westwood. Won the NFL and CBS,
the NBA on Amazon, the NCAA on CBS, some video
game somewhere, and my friend got to see a twin
peaks Kevin Harlan.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
That's a hell of a call, man.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Hell of a call. That was fine. It was weird
because you don't see it happen off and these guys,
guys are so careful with that ball, and and you
know it was I mean, unless it was a confluence
of guys criss crossing and you know, blind side hits
and punching the ball out. I mean, there was there
was mayhem, it was chaos, but the the Chargers held
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on and won in overtime interception which was deflected, And
it was kind of the day for for Hurts. He
struggled five turnovers, four interceptions. And there is no more
criticized team right now in the NFL side maybe from
the Chiefs than the Eagles. The two teams that were
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in the Super Bowl a year ago, and they're both
getting ladle with all kinds of criticism.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Yeah, it's it's bananas, man, this this league. I mean,
you and I have talked about the parody, right Kevin,
that makes the NFL go. I don't know if I've
ever seen a year with more parody in the NFL
than what we're looking at right now.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But everybody loves it, you know, because everybody's team is
still in it. Everybody has a chance. New teams are emerging.
Teams that won four or five games last year now
leading divisions. Teams that have not been the playoffs for
four or five years are leading conferences. I mean, it
really is a remarkable system that they have come up with.
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Another league are trying to emulate it very difficult to do.
The NFL just has the right recipe. They have constant competition,
they have only a few dates. Every game is an event.
Every week there's a new narrative, which is what they love.
They've patterned out their schedule in the offseason after the
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Super Bowl with something like once a week they announced
a European destination foreign destination for a game. They talk
about the beginning of free agency. It's the scouting combine,
the pro workout days. It's the lead item on every
sportscast three hundred and sixty four days a year. And
(04:03):
it's remarkable how they marketed it, how they have kept
it evolving. The formula is almost perfect, and we're getting
a taste of it. As you point out, this year
with teams that probably at the beginning of the year
no one thought, I mean, who would have thought New England,
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Who would have thought the Chicago Bears, like, who would
have thought? Who would have thought the Eagles of the
Chiefs would be where they are? And that those other
teams would be where they are. I mean, it's just
it's just it's a fascinating league. Hard to get a
grasp on, it, so fun to cover.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Well, it's bonkers.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
I'll tell you what else is bonkers, man, is the
idea that we could see the Seahawks go up against
a forty four year old grandpa at quarterback for the
Cults on Sunday. I know you're not calling the game
on Sunday for CBS. I think Andrew Catalan, I think
has the game. But the Coults signed Philip Rivers. He's
forty four, and I don't know. I mean, if I'm
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Philip Rivers, I want to play. If I'm going to sign,
I want to play. I mean Riley Leonard will see
what happens with him. And they got Brett Rippin. But
I mean, what the hell is going on in Indianapolis, man, Well.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
They're desperate. I mean, I mean they've lost, They've lost
the guy that that had led them from you know,
just kind of an afterthought to one of the premier
teams for half the season in the AFC. Now, there
were some cracks that were developing here over the last month.
We all saw him, but they had had had continued
to plow ahead. The kid had kind of resurrected his career,
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and with the torn achilles, he's done. And the backup
is injured. With the pcl Riley Leonard and then Richardson,
who they drafted so high a couple of years ago.
He's got a fractured orbital socket. They've got ripping on
the on the practice squad, and they're desperate, and this
is no way to go through the through the end
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of the season, the most important month of the year.
I really thought that they would make maybe a play
at Joe Flacco. I thought maybe they they'd reach out
and see if the Giants would cut Russell Wilson and
make him free, that he could sign there. Like I mean,
there was so much that was existing in the league.
To do what they've done is a pretty bold move.
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I mean, just getting up to speed. Now he's a
high school coach. I guess done in Alabama or Mississippi, wherever, Louisiana.
Wherever he is. I think it's Alabama, and I think
he's working out. I think that somewhere. I mean, I
do believe this. Somehow someone went down there to see
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how he looked physically, how he was operating with just
you know, the mental dexterity that you need at this
level in the NFL. How is his arm like all
these things. Then they brought him up. Then they worked
him out with all those knowledgeable eyes, more pairs of
eyes on them, and they said, yeah, you know, you
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know he's he's probably as good as we're going to
find out there in the league right now. They're going
to give it a shot. He knows the system. He
has been a cult before. Uh so he's got an
association with the with the organization. I to me, the
difference is going to be not the vocabulary, not the language,
not not not that stuff. It's going to be the
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speed of the game and going up against a defense
like the Seahawks, Yeah, which can throw a lot of
different things at you. I don't know how it's gonna work.
It's fascinating, but man oh man, what a what a
play in that building, as loud as it is, with
that team playing well and rolling and with big, big
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aspirations ahead. That's a tough position to put a forty
four year old guys then out of the league two
three years.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Right, and then getting ready for a big Thursday night
game next week against the Rams, which is a gigantic
divisional game. I know we'll talk about that more next week,
but Kevin, you mentioned aspirations there. That's a good word.
All right, it's kind of above my vocabulary. I had
to look it up to make sure.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I was kind of afraid of that. I was worried
that maybe that word wouldn't you know, gheit you the
right way. I know your audience though, in the IQ
and the intellect of your audience, yes, so high. I
knew they got it. I was kind of worried about you.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Yeah, much smarter than me, there is no question about that.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
But I began the show today and I want to
ask you if you think I'm nuts that I think
Seahawk fans and all of us in Seattle we should
be talking about these guys winning the whole damn thing.
I mean, they're they're ten and three, They're likely going
to be eleven and three. Knock on wood before the
big game with the Rams next Thursday. This thing's wide open.
Their defense is unbelievable. When they click on offense, they
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really click. I mean, why should we not be talking
about winning another Lombard right now in Seattle?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I think you should. I think it's proven out the
quarterback is. You had that little trough there that the
team hit, and there's some talk about, you know, the
propensity for turnovers from Sam he has quick showing these
last couple of games, he's back on schedule, back on
the tracks and rolling right along. Team learns about itself.
I think maybe some of the frailties that that can
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emerge during the season weren't inflecting you know, significant wounds
on the team. There were moments of pause and maybe
you know, some repair and it was keeping everybody together.
I mean, I mean they've they've checked all the boxes
here to to whether that and still be in the
most difficult division I think in football and do what
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they're doing. So, yeah, we're in December and look at
the record and look what they are. Everybody is relatively healthy,
quarterback is back on track. Ye, I mean, I mean
everything that you want a team to be in December
they are. And and why not? I mean, like, like,
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who are you gonna pick over them? We just saw
what happened to the Rams and in North Carolina, right
and they struggled, and uh, we know San Francisco is
hanging on from one breath to the next. Don a
ventilator because of all the significant injuries they've had a
quarterback and otherwise, I mean, they've they've just been just
battered and yet they're still breathing, which is great. I
(10:31):
don't think anyone thinks that with the Rams and the
Seahawks in that division, that that it's gonna be it's
gonna be a very difficult hill to climb for the Niners.
But make no mistake, they've done an incredible job to
be where they are. I've got so much respect for
Shanahan and how they've maneuvered with these significant injuries at quarterback,
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two pillars on defense. I mean, it's, uh, it's amazing
what they've done, and and and so. But but as
you look at everybody else, Green Bay looks good. Rams, clearly,
we just talked about them, and all the other teams
that you would think would be there are pretty much there.
But I don't think any significantly better than the Seahawks,
(11:12):
if any are better than the Seahawks. So I agree
with you. I agree with you.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Are we ready now to say that we are going
to have an AFC playoffs that will not include Lamar
Jackson or Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, we've got Mahomes this weekend in Kansas City, And
and you know, here's the thing about that. I know
I do that on purpose. Here's here's the thing about
is is you know it usually begins with, you know,
maybe a leveling off of play, but you still you
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still get to where you want to go. Then you
start playing a lot of one score games and you
get by by the skinnier teeth, which is what happened
last year. And then the next year as an organization,
you know, you're you're you're battling a lot of cap
issues and aging roster, not a lot of flexibility, and
(12:09):
continued issues and multiple turnstile moves on your offensive line.
And and then you got a quarterback who's trying to
win all these games by himself and playing out of
what he does best. And and then this year you
start to play close games again, but you don't win them,
and you lose them, and you fail on third down,
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and and this is this happened to the Patriots, It's
happening to the Chiefs. The league is not set up
for dynasties. But we're used to him the last twenty
years with New England and Kansas City. But the league
is not set up for dynasties. And eventually it's going
to get you. You have poor drafting position. You have cap issues,
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you have aging rosters. You got guys that that that
may wear the same name played in the back of
their jersey, but are different from year to year for
a variety of reasons. They get married, they have kids,
they have business ventures, their body gets older, that they're
dealing with injuries. Life happens, so I mean, and that's
that's what's happened to the Chiefs. The sad thing for
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me with the Chiefs is that Patrick Mahomes is thirty.
He's right in his prime. And do you ever see
the movie Seabiscuit.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Oh yeah, I was watching it as a matter of fact.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
You've got it, you know you are. You have got
to be killed.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I was watching No Way.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
I was doing some YouTube surfing and I came across
Sea Biscuit, which I love.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
I love that movie.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
The story is phenomenal about the down and outlook of
the four people involved in that thing.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Great movie, phenomenal film.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
But the horse, the horse. Remember the line by the
trainer he said, I don't think he remembers. The horse
has been put through so many weird circumstances of plow horse,
and he was not trained the proper way. And and
the trainer says, I think he has forgotten what he is, right,
(14:11):
I think he's forgotten what he was, and that is
my goal is to bring him back to what he was.
And I have a fear for Mahomes, for Mahomes that
that he has. He's had to scramble so much without
the benefit of a successful running game and a good
offensive line and a lot of changes at receiver and
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the pressure of living up to what is you know
that organization is about. It creeps into my thought process
that he's forgotten what he is. Yea, he can't throw
the long ball as well. His decisions are skewed, like
like like there's stuff going on here that I don't see,
and I'm wondering, has he forgotten? Has he has? Has
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he lost his way because he's had to pluge so
many holes in the dike with all the leaks and
all the things that he's had to cover up with
the mistakes around him. The drop passes last week were embarrassing,
and the team is frightened out, like it's like they
it's like they can't they can't operate because they see
their shadow and I and that's a tough that's a
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tough way to live your life and a tough way
to play in the NFL. But but you saw it.
We all saw it with their own eyes last Sunday night.
That was a team that doesn't bear any resemblance to
what we've seen over the last ten years.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yeah, so wild you mentioned that film. I love that film.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
You know what, have you ever seen the Secretariat movie
that they made about Secretariat?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I don't at the top of my head. I may
have seen parts of it.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Back Dan Lane, Diane Lane's in it.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
It's it's a Disney movie and ce Biscuits way better
than the Secretariat film, way better.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I means.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It is a tremendous movie. It's one of the great
sports movies. Yep. And you you have you have eloquently
talked about guys down on their luck, you know, for
people coming together, finding a horse that was down on
his luck, who had lost his way, had forgotten what
he was, and and they all kind of at a crescendo,
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rose to the moment and made history. And and and
you know, the Chiefs really did that too, with so
many different things. They're from their head coach right on through.
They were they were making good free agent acquisitions. But
they were drafting well, that was the thing and surrounding Mahomes. Now,
I think because you win so much, your draft position
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isn't good. You lose a draft pick because you're trying
to keep the roster buoyant. You don't have a lot
of financial flexibility because you're paying so much money to
a defensive lineman and your quarterback and a couple others.
And they're going to be in the hole, I think
in the cap, like in that like thirty million over
or so. Like they've got there. They're in a pickle.
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They've got some issues, and we got we got a
glimpse of kind of what they are and maybe where
they're headed last week. Now, I think is Rudy tom
Janovich once said, never doubt the heart of a champion,
the greatest word spoken in sports aside from Game seven.
Never doubt the heart. Never question the heart of a champion.
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And they are a champion. They've played in seven consecutive
AFC Championship games. Now, think of that seven in a row.
They've they've been to They've been to what five of
the last six Super Bowls. I mean, this is a
dynastic run in this day and age in the NFL
is incredible. But they've done it, but it's it's showing
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leakage right now. There's a lot of leakage.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
You have no idea how many times back in the
day when we had the Sonics on this radio station
and we'd walk around the office.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
Never question the heart of a champion ever.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I love it. I love that line and we should
all you should, everybody should look at you. You should
look in the mirror every day and say, I'm going
to have a great day. I am going to kill
it today. And whatever ive got to do, whether cleaning
the house, raising the kids, selling insurance, or open heart surgery,
I'm gonna be phenomenal today.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Is that what you do I'm.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Gonna look at? Is that what you look at myself?
I say, never doubt to the heart of a champion.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Would you go on the air, whether TV or radio,
do you go find like the men's room in the
press box and just you know, look in the mirror
and go, you're Kevin Harlan, You're gonna kill it today.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
You're the best I ever was that.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Would screw it up. I never say about n to
go screw it up. But there is science that says,
if you say something out loud and and you say
it with conviction, that you can sometimes will yourself into
a performance.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
All right, well, I'll try it next time I'm on
the golf course. I'm gonna shoot a sixty five today,
and then i'll shoot a sixty five of the front
nine and I'll give you a call, all right, Kevin.
For most things, And like, uh, you got Miami Pittsburgh
on Monday, you already gave it away. You got the
Chiefs for TV on Sunday for CBS, A little surprise,
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you got Bill's Patriots in Green Bay, Denver, and they
got you on Kansas City coming up this weekend. Man,
So enjoy yourself and we'll talk in a week.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
All right, You got it, buddy, Take care.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
All right, Bud. Kevin Harlan with us. Never ever question
Kevin Harlan ever. He joins us every Wednesday right here
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The story of the day, that's the story dejure that
sounds good, I'll have that is Sharon Moore getting fired
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by Michigan. Now there's reports coming out that he was
detained by police.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Who knows what for. I mean, we could.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
Speculate that maybe we're getting out of lost his mind.
There's even one report coming out that he may have
threatened people, another report that he may have been suicidal,
which I could see how somebody's life would be flipped
over on a dime, and all of a sudden he's
being told by Michigan he's fired. And the reason why
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you're getting fired is because you impregnated a thirty two
year old staff member and paid for her abortion, and
that violates your moral turpitude clause in your contract as
a married guy. So, just a horrible story coming out
of Michigan, and you got it feeling dick, don't you
that this is one of those stories where there's unfortunate
details that may eventually come out.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
More to that, I think I'm pretty positive that they
will come out. And you know, I've I, for one,
have been one of those Big ten fans that wanted
Haron Moore to stay at Michigan forever. It was called
the Clay Hilton plant. I wanted Clay Helton to sign
with USC forever. I wanted Charon Moore to stay at
Michigan forever. And because I think their chances of getting
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a replacement that is far better is well over seventy
five eighty percent.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
I don't feel bad for the guy that they got fired,
if he was doing what he was accused of doing.
I do feel bad the position he was in I
mean he was in a no win situation replacing Jim
Harbaugh after a national team Yeah, there's no chance. I mean,
there's all the only one way to go, and that's down.
If you're the Michigan.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Wara surprised they gave him the job.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Well, I wonder if they gave him the job because
of exactly that situation, that let's just let him be
the guy to replace the guy he fails, and then
we whack him and you move on, you hire somebody else.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
I mean, did they have a great shot at getting
a big name guy to replace Jim harbought that exact second.
It's like the Nick Saban thing. You don't want to
be the guy to replace the guys. And look at
Kaitlyn the Moore. I mean he's in the playoff and
he's getting his balls busted by everybody down there.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
I mean, maybe I'm.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
Just overestimating the power of Michigan and maybe I'm just
falling into the trap because I mean, I just I
just feel like Michigan is a top three in college football.
We don't just agree on that it should be able.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
To call almost not.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
I mean, take out the top fifteen to twenty coaches
and in the NFL. Right, other than that, the Michigan
should be able to call any coach in the country
and have interest.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Well, let me ask you this though, right, and I
I want to hire a guy like because of what
I just said, I think it's hard to get that
guy to replace the guy Like who did I mean
USC hired Lane Kiffin when he was like thirty years
old to replace Pete Carroll, Right, And I don't know, man,
I just think there's a lot of coaches out there
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that generally would not do what Kaitlyn de Boor did
and go into a place like that and take over
for a legend who was winning titles, was one of
the greatest coaches in college football because the pressure and
the expectations are so damn high. Be the next guy, right,
Be the next guy that comes in, like whoever follows
to Boor. If he doesn't pan out, right, he is
going to be in a totally different situation.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Yeah, I guess the same thing happened here.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
With Chris Peters, Yes to Jimmy Lake and then Deboor
comes in.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
And is great.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Million percent? I mean how many? And maybe there are examples.
I can't think of many right now, where a great
college coach retires and the next guy comes in and
just keeps it going and kills it.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
I got a basketball example for you. Who Dan Monson
Mark Field?
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Okay, he's the assistant, right, it's actually okay, and he
even made it better.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Now do football?
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Yeah, well, i'd have to think about it. I'm sure
there's there's coordinators that have come in.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
I'm talking talking about Yes, so Ohio State was one
that came yeah, right, but Urban yeah retired.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Yeah, no, that is one. You're right, but there's not many.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
It doesn't feel like there's a lot of examples like that, right,
They're very few and far between. Like there's a reason
why the old adage don't be the guy to replace
the guy exists, Yeah, because it generally rings true.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
So I don't know.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
I mean, I'm with you that I think Michigan's gonna
be better off now that Sharon Morris golf is bad
news for washing I think it's very bad news for
the rest of college football. I just wonder how far
their net will go, how wide their net will go.
I wonder how far down the list they'll have to
go to get the guy they're looking for. This is
a totally different situation than Penn State because Penn State
fired James Franklin for not winning when he was winning, right,
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I mean, he wasn't beating top twenty five teams. I
get that, But what was What was James Franklin's record
at Penn State, by the way, wasn't like ridiculous excellent.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
He was just terrible against top ten teams.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yeah, James Franklin at Penn State was blah blah blah
blah blah.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
This is great radio.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
He was one hundred and four and forty five at
Penn State and he got fired.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
And so a lot of coaches would say, well, I'm
not going there.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
Screw you guys, man, right, I win sixty five percent
of my games. I'm gonna get whacked just because I
can't beat the top five teams in college football. This situation,
they fired the guy for sleeping with a staff member,
not because the expectations were too hot.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
And the weird thing about the situation is how late
we are in the game. So Michigan replacing him, there
is a far less pool of available candidates, I think,
and specifically candidates who would not only want a job
that's obviously a big pool, but are in a situation
where they can jump and comfortably jump. I think for
a lot of well, I mean, look at the situation
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right here, right where Jedfish right now, he is kind
of the last of the remaining kind of pot right.
We got to look at the pool for Florida, right,
Florida's pool was pretty big. They use lots of up
and coming guys, and those up and coming guys have
kind of been pulled all these different directions. I'm not
sure what up and coming guys are remaining.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
So I'm not just talking about an existing stable head
coach of a major college football team.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Why wouldn't he go to Michigan?
Speaker 8 (27:15):
I would say a lot of that's probably because of
their if their current situation is just as okay, again,
you're what you're doing with Michigan is you are going
into some turmoil of a situation right now, late in
the game. And it's crazy to say late in the
game it's December tenth, but that's just a nature of.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
College football, right, which which so when you say stable
head coach like not necessarily a big time name, but
a stable guy like, I'll give you a name. I'm
looking at it right here. This makes total sense. Manny Diaz, right,
has turned Duke into a pretty damn good football team.
He's fifty one years old, he's around the luck christ
of Ball played at Miami, So I don't know if
he tinks it at Miami. I'm just talking about that
(27:51):
to me like that, Yes, that that would make sense.
I also, but again, I I do think Michigan's gonna
go for the big one exactly. They're gonna They're gonna
go for the biggest possible name they can find. I
just again, I'm curious how far down their list they
have to go before they get the guy that they're
looking at. Will they get their number one guy? Like
if their number one guy on their list is I
don't know, give me a name, Mike, Mike McDonald. I
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don't think he's going from the NFL to Michigan, right.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
He was the guys.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
He was there for a year. He went to Georgia
for God's sakes. And by the way, if Harball, if
Jim Harbaugh still has a bur up his ass for
the Wolverines, guarantee you McDonald's talking to Harball. His son
works for him for God's sakes on his staff. You
know he respects Jim wore.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
That would excommunicate John Harbor. It might as well, absolutely
could for sure.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
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Speaker 5 (29:11):
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Speaker 6 (29:22):
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soggy night, it's time for a little fun with audio
slash hated you hear that?
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Dick?
Speaker 5 (29:47):
We start in the NFL this morning.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
A first take ESPN NFL analyst Marcus Spears reacting to
the Colts signing Philip Rivers, who might start against the
Seahawks on Sunday.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
Well, Shay, I grew up in a Baptist charg Black
Baptist church in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. And when you get
scared and when you need the Lord to intervene, you
call you. That's what I'm doing for Philip Rivers, trying
to come back and play at forty four.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Years old after being out five years.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
I'm nervous for him because he plays the Seattle Seahawks
this week and if anybody has seen that defense play,
I'm not sure if.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
That's where you want to be.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
If you a good quarterback that's been playing and having reps,
not sure how there's gonna go around Riley Lindard may play,
but Philip Rivers coming back after five years? All I'm
doing this summon in the prayer warriors that when he
leaves this season, he can leave out the way he came.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
God.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
You know, I thought about this a lot, and I
was talking to Hugh about it that my first reaction,
Dick is if he's gonna come play and sign with him,
he wants to start.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
He wants to play. Then I thought to myself, really,
are we certain about that.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
He's forty four, he's got kids, he's coaching high school football.
Does he really want to go into an NFL football
game and risk getting killed against the Seahawks on Sunday?
Because that'd be the worst thing possible, is that Philip
Rivers plays a game and ends up getting hurt.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Are you intimating that I might want to come back
and be a bench I yes, I am.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
I don't think he big old paycheck one hundred percent
for a paycheck, Dick.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I'm not saying he doesn't want to play. I'm just
saying that.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
The idea that the only way he would do this
is if he is told he's going to start.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
I don't know if I believe that anymore. Keep in mind,
Riley Leonard practiced in full today.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Right, Yes, I think I think he's going to start. Yeah,
I think Leonard's gonna start on Sunday. I think phil
I think Philip Rivers is coming in to help it.
I mean, I think what he said today, if he
hurt his clip he was genuine that he wants to
help him out. He's going to come in there. He's
going to hold a clipboard. If he plays, he plays.
If he doesn't, he doesn't. Nice little payday. Whatever helps
out the Rsay family.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Who do we want to have play Ard?
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Probably Leonard, to be honest with you, Yeah, definitely, I
think so too. I mean, how terrible would you feel, though,
if this guy came in off the bench and started
a game for the Colts and got really hurt.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
Against the seat.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
My god, I think it'd be more embarrassing though, if
the Seahawks lost to Riley Leonard than if they lost
to Philip Rivers.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Oh no, I completely disagree.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
Philip Rivers is ninety three years old, but that would
be massives how to.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
Play the positions. I don't believe Leonard knows how to
play the position. Jackson's right, he hasn't played in five years.
He hasn't played in so embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Dicky's forty four gets like, I get it right, Riley
Leonard versus Philip Rivers.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
But what's it's actually a great? Riley Leonard wasn't a great?
What's more, what's.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
More embarrassing losing to a guy that's already in the
system or a guy who hasn't taken a snap in
a football game.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
In five years? Really quick?
Speaker 8 (32:39):
Because I watched the Colts Jaggs game, some of it
because the red zone Riley Leonard did not look half back.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Yeah, all right, well we'll say we'll find out on Sunday.
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to he? What's that?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Dick?
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Former Mariners and Mets closer Edwin Diaz headed to the Dodgers,
but back in New York, Frank the Tank Fleming, our buddy,
noted Mets fan Barstool's resident met raizy Head, learned about
the news from a coworker yesterday that his favorite team
had lost Edwin Diaz.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Have you have you checked Twitter?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
When last minute there's a report Edwin Diaz the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
I knew it was gonna happened.
Speaker 7 (33:13):
I know it is why such sucks the one hundred
and ninety four games next year.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
This one is dying. This question was like, you know,
take Pony Club.
Speaker 9 (33:28):
Take.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Big money anywhere, son, I know that's gonna happen. And
that's only the game that's.
Speaker 8 (33:41):
Gonna be no joy, no joy ever, and that's twenty
games or.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
More heavy and forever. Steve Code is a liar trainer.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Some of it.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
I couldn't understand a word he said until the end. Sid,
So you know what the Pink Pony Club reference is
that I got? Oh god, I mean the Mets losing
streak was on them adopting the Pink Pony Club's song
as they're unoffensed.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
Well, yeah, and then they also had the Grimmace thing.
Remember that was a good one. Yeah, and the McDonald's
good they got to go back to Grimace for crying
out loud. Well, I I don't know, man, I just
know this that the one thing that was obvious to
everybody during the playoffs, especially the World Series, was the
Dodger bullpen was not very good and signing Edwin Diaz
now to combine with the starting pitching they've got.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
I mean, they.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Could easily win three in a row. Boys easily win
three in a row. When was the last time that
happened in baseball? The A's in the seventies, It was
the last time a major.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
League based.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
I don't think the aches they could like they very
easily could have been.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
When was the I'm not asking you who could I'm
asking when was the last time?
Speaker 5 (34:52):
I mean, I'm gonna say it was the A's? Was
it the A's?
Speaker 7 (34:55):
Dick au Jackson was right, Ah, you go ninety eight
to two thousand Yankees?
Speaker 5 (35:00):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Yeah, Well, it doesn't happened for twenty five years. Man,
all right, thet do one more? We got time, We
have time.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
One more?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Come on?
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Why not? All right? Hey, Dick, did you happen to
hear that? What's that? Dick Number one? Is that right
to change the script though? All right? Change the script? Yeah,
he says, let's start with.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
Oh, Notre Dame ad Pete Bavakua. That was Kirk is
having himself a week. Let's start with his Monday interview.
All right, Oh yeah, that's what you meant by change
the script. All right, let's go back to his Monday
interview on wake up barstool, where he was critical of
(35:38):
the College Football Playoffs selection process.
Speaker 10 (35:40):
We don't have any grape with the teams that made it,
or quite frankly, other teams that deserve to be considered.
Our problem, Dave, is with the process, right. So we
were for right or wrong reasons, and you might totally
disagree with me, but we were absolutely led to believe
this entire CFP rank season that we were in. You know,
(36:02):
you go back to that first ranking. We were six
and two. Miami was six and two and they beat us,
but we were both six and two. We were tenth,
they were eighteenth. The only thing that happened from that
point is we both went out for some reason. We
end up eleventh, and on the outside looking in, we're
not getting reasonable explanations for this.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
So okay.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
So the complaint is that after week fifteen, Notre Dame
was tenth and Miami was twelfth BYU between the two
of us, right, and then BYU lost, so they're done,
and then Miami jumps. Notre Dame goes from twelfth to tenth. Well,
Notre Dame goes from tenth to eleventh, and that's what
they're mad about.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
When neither team played. So I get that, right.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
I get if you're going to make all these things
public every single week, which you kind of have to
for transparency, I can get why Notre Dame would say
what the hell? But the other truth for me is
I also think they got the right team. They got
the Miami Notre Dame they deserve to go.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
And I think the commissioner of the college Football Playoff
Committee was very transparent. He said there was a team
in between them. They were not judged by the head
to head because there was.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
A team in between them.
Speaker 7 (37:12):
And we saw lots of reports last week saying if
BYU loses, Notre Dame will be judged more head to
head with Miami, and Miami could flip them.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
This wasn't that big a shock to a lot, But
what was then?
Speaker 6 (37:26):
What was then the reasoning If you're telling me that
the only way head to head comes into play is
if BYU loses, right, what was the reasoning for having
Notre Dame ahead of Miami in the first place?
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Because if you took.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
The head to head out, but Notre Dame's got a
better resume, But why.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Would you take the head to head out if they
both have the same record.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
Because when they're not direct The way it was explained
is when they were not directly together, Okay, they would
not be judged by the head to head, so but
if they were directly next to each other in the polls,
they would have to use the head to head.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
I don't I'm still confused as to why they were
never directly together until the last poll.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Right, But that doesn't make that right. That's stupid. I'm
not saying why would this, Why would they?
Speaker 6 (38:12):
Why would why would Notre Dame be two spots ahead
of Miami and that all of a sudden the team
between them loses, and now we're going to be concerned
about head to head.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
We're not. We're not. We're not saying that this why question?
Why is that we're not saying that.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
We're not saying I understand that, I understand what you're
saying about what they said.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
I'm just confused as to why that.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Was the case. I mean, just took about this. If
we're a Husky fan, are pissed, of course, and the
committee does weird stuff. Man, Like two years ago, remember
all the crap about Florida State. Florida State ended up
getting screwed because Jordan Travis got hurt. I get that,
but they were ahead of us almost the entire way
with a way worse resume than Washington.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
Didn Miami get into national championship game over Washington even
though we beat Miami head to head and they both
had one loss in two thousand.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
Uh, yes, I thought Miami had lost that he beat.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Him in two I don't know, that's a long lest
twenty five years ago, when the year the Huskies finished third. Yes, okay,
and they had the one loss to Oregon in two thousand, right.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
Yes, I believe Miami lost one game that regular season.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Well, I know Miami played Ohio State a couple years
later in that triple overtime game.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
I just don't.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
I mean, look, I get why Notre Dame is upset.
I think the way they've reacted to it is a low, ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (39:35):
Final regular season poll. Miami was eleven and one, ranked second.
Washington was eleven and one with they win over Miami
and they were ranked third.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
But that what was Miami's resume? Who did they beat
that year?
Speaker 6 (39:46):
I look, I understand it if the resume is so
much better, right, like head to head should matter, but
it should not be the only thing that matters. If if,
if Notre Dame. I know we're laid here, but whatever.
If Notre Dame had the same record as Miami but
lost to Miami but also had eight wins against top
ten teams in Miami dozen't, then Notre Dame's got the
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better resume.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
But they didn't have that.
Speaker 6 (40:11):
Neither team had a particular neither team had scheduled, So
what the hell was Notre Dame doing there in the
first place.
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Speaker 2 (00:56):
Let's over the events. Shotgun snap five man rush flips.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
His on pat. It's inter icted up the middle of
the twenty coming.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
To the near side twenty five.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Then the players hit the ball, Charge three hurts picking.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Up, he loses the ball. The ball's rolling.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Here's sideline recovered at the forty five. As they try
to untangle the bodies, the Chargers have gotten the ball.
I think everybody touched that ball on the play, bouncing
from one player to the next.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Good lord, what a call. Holy cow, what a call.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Jalen Hurts not one, but two turnovers on one play
and the Eagles loss on Monday night.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
And nobody, and I mean.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
Nobody could have called that play better than my friend
from the NFL in Westwood. Won the NFL and CBS,
the NBA on Amazon, the NCAA on CBS, some video
game somewhere, and my friend got to see a twin
peaks Kevin Harlan.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
That's a hell of a call, man.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Hell of a call. That was fine. It was weird
because you don't see it happen off and these guys,
guys are so careful with that ball, and and you
know it was I mean, unless it was a confluence
of guys criss crossing and you know, blind side hits
and punching the ball out. I mean, there was there
was mayhem, it was chaos, but the the Chargers held
(02:17):
on and won in overtime interception which was deflected, And
it was kind of the day for for Hurts. He
struggled five turnovers, four interceptions. And there is no more
criticized team right now in the NFL side maybe from
the Chiefs than the Eagles. The two teams that were
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in the Super Bowl a year ago, and they're both
getting ladle with all kinds of criticism.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Yeah, it's it's bananas, man, this this league. I mean,
you and I have talked about the parody, right Kevin,
that makes the NFL go. I don't know if I've
ever seen a year with more parody in the NFL
than what we're looking at right now.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But everybody loves it, you know, because everybody's team is
still in it. Everybody has a chance. New teams are emerging.
Teams that won four or five games last year now
leading divisions. Teams that have not been the playoffs for
four or five years are leading conferences. I mean, it
really is a remarkable system that they have come up with.
(03:20):
Another league are trying to emulate it very difficult to do.
The NFL just has the right recipe. They have constant competition,
they have only a few dates. Every game is an event.
Every week there's a new narrative, which is what they love.
They've patterned out their schedule in the offseason after the
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Super Bowl with something like once a week they announced
a European destination foreign destination for a game. They talk
about the beginning of free agency. It's the scouting combine,
the pro workout days. It's the lead item on every
sportscast three hundred and sixty four days a year. And
(04:03):
it's remarkable how they marketed it, how they have kept
it evolving. The formula is almost perfect, and we're getting
a taste of it. As you point out, this year
with teams that probably at the beginning of the year
no one thought, I mean, who would have thought New England,
(04:23):
Who would have thought the Chicago Bears, like, who would
have thought? Who would have thought the Eagles of the
Chiefs would be where they are? And that those other
teams would be where they are. I mean, it's just
it's just it's a fascinating league. Hard to get a
grasp on, it, so fun to cover.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Well, it's bonkers.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
I'll tell you what else is bonkers, man, is the
idea that we could see the Seahawks go up against
a forty four year old grandpa at quarterback for the
Cults on Sunday. I know you're not calling the game
on Sunday for CBS. I think Andrew Catalan, I think
has the game. But the Coults signed Philip Rivers. He's
forty four, and I don't know. I mean, if I'm
(05:00):
Philip Rivers, I want to play. If I'm going to sign,
I want to play. I mean Riley Leonard will see
what happens with him. And they got Brett Rippin. But
I mean, what the hell is going on in Indianapolis, man, Well.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
They're desperate. I mean, I mean they've lost, They've lost
the guy that that had led them from you know,
just kind of an afterthought to one of the premier
teams for half the season in the AFC. Now, there
were some cracks that were developing here over the last month.
We all saw him, but they had had had continued
to plow ahead. The kid had kind of resurrected his career,
(05:35):
and with the torn achilles, he's done. And the backup
is injured. With the pcl Riley Leonard and then Richardson,
who they drafted so high a couple of years ago.
He's got a fractured orbital socket. They've got ripping on
the on the practice squad, and they're desperate, and this
is no way to go through the through the end
(05:57):
of the season, the most important month of the year.
I really thought that they would make maybe a play
at Joe Flacco. I thought maybe they they'd reach out
and see if the Giants would cut Russell Wilson and
make him free, that he could sign there. Like I mean,
there was so much that was existing in the league.
To do what they've done is a pretty bold move.
(06:20):
I mean, just getting up to speed. Now he's a
high school coach. I guess done in Alabama or Mississippi, wherever, Louisiana.
Wherever he is. I think it's Alabama, and I think
he's working out. I think that somewhere. I mean, I
do believe this. Somehow someone went down there to see
(06:45):
how he looked physically, how he was operating with just
you know, the mental dexterity that you need at this
level in the NFL. How is his arm like all
these things. Then they brought him up. Then they worked
him out with all those knowledgeable eyes, more pairs of
eyes on them, and they said, yeah, you know, you
(07:07):
know he's he's probably as good as we're going to
find out there in the league right now. They're going
to give it a shot. He knows the system. He
has been a cult before. Uh so he's got an
association with the with the organization. I to me, the
difference is going to be not the vocabulary, not the language,
not not not that stuff. It's going to be the
(07:31):
speed of the game and going up against a defense
like the Seahawks, Yeah, which can throw a lot of
different things at you. I don't know how it's gonna work.
It's fascinating, but man oh man, what a what a
play in that building, as loud as it is, with
that team playing well and rolling and with big, big
(07:51):
aspirations ahead. That's a tough position to put a forty
four year old guys then out of the league two
three years.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Right, and then getting ready for a big Thursday night
game next week against the Rams, which is a gigantic
divisional game. I know we'll talk about that more next week,
but Kevin, you mentioned aspirations there. That's a good word.
All right, it's kind of above my vocabulary. I had
to look it up to make sure.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I was kind of afraid of that. I was worried
that maybe that word wouldn't you know, gheit you the
right way. I know your audience though, in the IQ
and the intellect of your audience, yes, so high. I
knew they got it. I was kind of worried about you.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Yeah, much smarter than me, there is no question about that.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
But I began the show today and I want to
ask you if you think I'm nuts that I think
Seahawk fans and all of us in Seattle we should
be talking about these guys winning the whole damn thing.
I mean, they're they're ten and three, They're likely going
to be eleven and three. Knock on wood before the
big game with the Rams next Thursday. This thing's wide open.
Their defense is unbelievable. When they click on offense, they
(08:55):
really click. I mean, why should we not be talking
about winning another Lombard right now in Seattle?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I think you should. I think it's proven out the
quarterback is. You had that little trough there that the
team hit, and there's some talk about, you know, the
propensity for turnovers from Sam he has quick showing these
last couple of games, he's back on schedule, back on
the tracks and rolling right along. Team learns about itself.
I think maybe some of the frailties that that can
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emerge during the season weren't inflecting you know, significant wounds
on the team. There were moments of pause and maybe
you know, some repair and it was keeping everybody together.
I mean, I mean they've they've checked all the boxes
here to to whether that and still be in the
most difficult division I think in football and do what
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they're doing. So, yeah, we're in December and look at
the record and look what they are. Everybody is relatively healthy,
quarterback is back on track. Ye, I mean, I mean
everything that you want a team to be in December
they are. And and why not? I mean, like, like,
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who are you gonna pick over them? We just saw
what happened to the Rams and in North Carolina, right
and they struggled, and uh, we know San Francisco is
hanging on from one breath to the next. Don a
ventilator because of all the significant injuries they've had a
quarterback and otherwise, I mean, they've they've just been just
battered and yet they're still breathing, which is great. I
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don't think anyone thinks that with the Rams and the
Seahawks in that division, that that it's gonna be it's
gonna be a very difficult hill to climb for the Niners.
But make no mistake, they've done an incredible job to
be where they are. I've got so much respect for
Shanahan and how they've maneuvered with these significant injuries at quarterback,
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two pillars on defense. I mean, it's, uh, it's amazing
what they've done, and and and so. But but as
you look at everybody else, Green Bay looks good. Rams, clearly,
we just talked about them, and all the other teams
that you would think would be there are pretty much there.
But I don't think any significantly better than the Seahawks,
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if any are better than the Seahawks. So I agree
with you. I agree with you.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Are we ready now to say that we are going
to have an AFC playoffs that will not include Lamar
Jackson or Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, we've got Mahomes this weekend in Kansas City, And
and you know, here's the thing about that. I know
I do that on purpose. Here's here's the thing about
is is you know it usually begins with, you know,
maybe a leveling off of play, but you still you
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still get to where you want to go. Then you
start playing a lot of one score games and you
get by by the skinnier teeth, which is what happened
last year. And then the next year as an organization,
you know, you're you're you're battling a lot of cap
issues and aging roster, not a lot of flexibility, and
(12:09):
continued issues and multiple turnstile moves on your offensive line.
And and then you got a quarterback who's trying to
win all these games by himself and playing out of
what he does best. And and then this year you
start to play close games again, but you don't win them,
and you lose them, and you fail on third down,
(12:31):
and and this is this happened to the Patriots, It's
happening to the Chiefs. The league is not set up
for dynasties. But we're used to him the last twenty
years with New England and Kansas City. But the league
is not set up for dynasties. And eventually it's going
to get you. You have poor drafting position. You have cap issues,
(12:52):
you have aging rosters. You got guys that that that
may wear the same name played in the back of
their jersey, but are different from year to year for
a variety of reasons. They get married, they have kids,
they have business ventures, their body gets older, that they're
dealing with injuries. Life happens, so I mean, and that's
that's what's happened to the Chiefs. The sad thing for
(13:14):
me with the Chiefs is that Patrick Mahomes is thirty.
He's right in his prime. And do you ever see
the movie Seabiscuit.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Oh yeah, I was watching it as a matter of fact.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
You've got it, you know you are. You have got
to be killed.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I was watching No Way.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
I was doing some YouTube surfing and I came across
Sea Biscuit, which I love.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
I love that movie.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
The story is phenomenal about the down and outlook of
the four people involved in that thing.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Great movie, phenomenal film.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
But the horse, the horse. Remember the line by the
trainer he said, I don't think he remembers. The horse
has been put through so many weird circumstances of plow horse,
and he was not trained the proper way. And and
the trainer says, I think he has forgotten what he is, right,
(14:11):
I think he's forgotten what he was, and that is
my goal is to bring him back to what he was.
And I have a fear for Mahomes, for Mahomes that
that he has. He's had to scramble so much without
the benefit of a successful running game and a good
offensive line and a lot of changes at receiver and
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the pressure of living up to what is you know
that organization is about. It creeps into my thought process
that he's forgotten what he is. Yea, he can't throw
the long ball as well. His decisions are skewed, like
like like there's stuff going on here that I don't see,
and I'm wondering, has he forgotten? Has he has? Has
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he lost his way because he's had to pluge so
many holes in the dike with all the leaks and
all the things that he's had to cover up with
the mistakes around him. The drop passes last week were embarrassing,
and the team is frightened out, like it's like they
it's like they can't they can't operate because they see
their shadow and I and that's a tough that's a
(15:17):
tough way to live your life and a tough way
to play in the NFL. But but you saw it.
We all saw it with their own eyes last Sunday night.
That was a team that doesn't bear any resemblance to
what we've seen over the last ten years.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yeah, so wild you mentioned that film. I love that film.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
You know what, have you ever seen the Secretariat movie
that they made about Secretariat?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I don't at the top of my head. I may
have seen parts of it.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Back Dan Lane, Diane Lane's in it.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
It's it's a Disney movie and ce Biscuits way better
than the Secretariat film, way better.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
I means.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It is a tremendous movie. It's one of the great
sports movies. Yep. And you you have you have eloquently
talked about guys down on their luck, you know, for
people coming together, finding a horse that was down on
his luck, who had lost his way, had forgotten what
he was, and and they all kind of at a crescendo,
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rose to the moment and made history. And and and
you know, the Chiefs really did that too, with so
many different things. They're from their head coach right on through.
They were they were making good free agent acquisitions. But
they were drafting well, that was the thing and surrounding Mahomes. Now,
I think because you win so much, your draft position
(16:32):
isn't good. You lose a draft pick because you're trying
to keep the roster buoyant. You don't have a lot
of financial flexibility because you're paying so much money to
a defensive lineman and your quarterback and a couple others.
And they're going to be in the hole, I think
in the cap, like in that like thirty million over
or so. Like they've got there. They're in a pickle.
(16:53):
They've got some issues, and we got we got a
glimpse of kind of what they are and maybe where
they're headed last week. Now, I think is Rudy tom
Janovich once said, never doubt the heart of a champion,
the greatest word spoken in sports aside from Game seven.
Never doubt the heart. Never question the heart of a champion.
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And they are a champion. They've played in seven consecutive
AFC Championship games. Now, think of that seven in a row.
They've they've been to They've been to what five of
the last six Super Bowls. I mean, this is a
dynastic run in this day and age in the NFL
is incredible. But they've done it, but it's it's showing
(17:35):
leakage right now. There's a lot of leakage.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
You have no idea how many times back in the
day when we had the Sonics on this radio station
and we'd walk around the office.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
Never question the heart of a champion ever.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I love it. I love that line and we should
all you should, everybody should look at you. You should
look in the mirror every day and say, I'm going
to have a great day. I am going to kill
it today. And whatever ive got to do, whether cleaning
the house, raising the kids, selling insurance, or open heart surgery,
I'm gonna be phenomenal today.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Is that what you do I'm.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Gonna look at? Is that what you look at myself?
I say, never doubt to the heart of a champion.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Would you go on the air, whether TV or radio,
do you go find like the men's room in the
press box and just you know, look in the mirror
and go, you're Kevin Harlan, You're gonna kill it today.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
You're the best I ever was that.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Would screw it up. I never say about n to
go screw it up. But there is science that says,
if you say something out loud and and you say
it with conviction, that you can sometimes will yourself into
a performance.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
All right, well, I'll try it next time I'm on
the golf course. I'm gonna shoot a sixty five today,
and then i'll shoot a sixty five of the front
nine and I'll give you a call, all right, Kevin.
For most things, And like, uh, you got Miami Pittsburgh
on Monday, you already gave it away. You got the
Chiefs for TV on Sunday for CBS, A little surprise,
(19:03):
you got Bill's Patriots in Green Bay, Denver, and they
got you on Kansas City coming up this weekend. Man,
So enjoy yourself and we'll talk in a week.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
All right, You got it, buddy, Take care.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
All right, Bud. Kevin Harlan with us. Never ever question
Kevin Harlan ever. He joins us every Wednesday right here
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The story of the day, that's the story dejure that
sounds good, I'll have that is Sharon Moore getting fired
(21:13):
by Michigan. Now there's reports coming out that he was
detained by police.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Who knows what for. I mean, we could.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
Speculate that maybe we're getting out of lost his mind.
There's even one report coming out that he may have
threatened people, another report that he may have been suicidal,
which I could see how somebody's life would be flipped
over on a dime, and all of a sudden he's
being told by Michigan he's fired. And the reason why
(21:41):
you're getting fired is because you impregnated a thirty two
year old staff member and paid for her abortion, and
that violates your moral turpitude clause in your contract as
a married guy. So, just a horrible story coming out
of Michigan, and you got it feeling dick, don't you
that this is one of those stories where there's unfortunate
details that may eventually come out.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
More to that, I think I'm pretty positive that they
will come out. And you know, I've I, for one,
have been one of those Big ten fans that wanted
Haron Moore to stay at Michigan forever. It was called
the Clay Hilton plant. I wanted Clay Helton to sign
with USC forever. I wanted Charon Moore to stay at
Michigan forever. And because I think their chances of getting
(22:27):
a replacement that is far better is well over seventy
five eighty percent.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
I don't feel bad for the guy that they got fired,
if he was doing what he was accused of doing.
I do feel bad the position he was in I
mean he was in a no win situation replacing Jim
Harbaugh after a national team Yeah, there's no chance. I mean,
there's all the only one way to go, and that's down.
If you're the Michigan.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Wara surprised they gave him the job.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Well, I wonder if they gave him the job because
of exactly that situation, that let's just let him be
the guy to replace the guy he fails, and then
we whack him and you move on, you hire somebody else.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
I mean, did they have a great shot at getting
a big name guy to replace Jim harbought that exact second.
It's like the Nick Saban thing. You don't want to
be the guy to replace the guys. And look at
Kaitlyn the Moore. I mean he's in the playoff and
he's getting his balls busted by everybody down there.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
I mean, maybe I'm.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
Just overestimating the power of Michigan and maybe I'm just
falling into the trap because I mean, I just I
just feel like Michigan is a top three in college football.
We don't just agree on that it should be able.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
To call almost not.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
I mean, take out the top fifteen to twenty coaches
and in the NFL. Right, other than that, the Michigan
should be able to call any coach in the country
and have interest.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Well, let me ask you this though, right, and I
I want to hire a guy like because of what
I just said, I think it's hard to get that
guy to replace the guy Like who did I mean
USC hired Lane Kiffin when he was like thirty years
old to replace Pete Carroll, Right, And I don't know, man,
I just think there's a lot of coaches out there
(24:06):
that generally would not do what Kaitlyn de Boor did
and go into a place like that and take over
for a legend who was winning titles, was one of
the greatest coaches in college football because the pressure and
the expectations are so damn high. Be the next guy, right,
Be the next guy that comes in, like whoever follows
to Boor. If he doesn't pan out, right, he is
going to be in a totally different situation.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Yeah, I guess the same thing happened here.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
With Chris Peters, Yes to Jimmy Lake and then Deboor
comes in.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
And is great.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Million percent? I mean how many? And maybe there are examples.
I can't think of many right now, where a great
college coach retires and the next guy comes in and
just keeps it going and kills it.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
I got a basketball example for you. Who Dan Monson
Mark Field?
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Okay, he's the assistant, right, it's actually okay, and he
even made it better.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Now do football?
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Yeah, well, i'd have to think about it. I'm sure
there's there's coordinators that have come in.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
I'm talking talking about Yes, so Ohio State was one
that came yeah, right, but Urban yeah retired.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Yeah, no, that is one. You're right, but there's not many.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
It doesn't feel like there's a lot of examples like that, right,
They're very few and far between. Like there's a reason
why the old adage don't be the guy to replace
the guy exists, Yeah, because it generally rings true.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
So I don't know.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
I mean, I'm with you that I think Michigan's gonna
be better off now that Sharon Morris golf is bad
news for washing I think it's very bad news for
the rest of college football. I just wonder how far
their net will go, how wide their net will go.
I wonder how far down the list they'll have to
go to get the guy they're looking for. This is
a totally different situation than Penn State because Penn State
fired James Franklin for not winning when he was winning, right,
(25:45):
I mean, he wasn't beating top twenty five teams. I
get that, But what was What was James Franklin's record
at Penn State, by the way, wasn't like ridiculous excellent.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
He was just terrible against top ten teams.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yeah, James Franklin at Penn State was blah blah blah
blah blah.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
This is great radio.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
He was one hundred and four and forty five at
Penn State and he got fired.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
And so a lot of coaches would say, well, I'm
not going there.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
Screw you guys, man, right, I win sixty five percent
of my games. I'm gonna get whacked just because I
can't beat the top five teams in college football. This situation,
they fired the guy for sleeping with a staff member,
not because the expectations were too hot.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
And the weird thing about the situation is how late
we are in the game. So Michigan replacing him, there
is a far less pool of available candidates, I think,
and specifically candidates who would not only want a job
that's obviously a big pool, but are in a situation
where they can jump and comfortably jump. I think for
a lot of well, I mean, look at the situation
(26:46):
right here, right where Jedfish right now, he is kind
of the last of the remaining kind of pot right.
We got to look at the pool for Florida, right,
Florida's pool was pretty big. They use lots of up
and coming guys, and those up and coming guys have
kind of been pulled all these different directions. I'm not
sure what up and coming guys are remaining.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
So I'm not just talking about an existing stable head
coach of a major college football team.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Why wouldn't he go to Michigan?
Speaker 8 (27:15):
I would say a lot of that's probably because of
their if their current situation is just as okay, again,
you're what you're doing with Michigan is you are going
into some turmoil of a situation right now, late in
the game. And it's crazy to say late in the
game it's December tenth, but that's just a nature of.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
College football, right, which which so when you say stable
head coach like not necessarily a big time name, but
a stable guy like, I'll give you a name. I'm
looking at it right here. This makes total sense. Manny Diaz, right,
has turned Duke into a pretty damn good football team.
He's fifty one years old, he's around the luck christ
of Ball played at Miami, So I don't know if
he tinks it at Miami. I'm just talking about that
(27:51):
to me like that, Yes, that that would make sense.
I also, but again, I I do think Michigan's gonna
go for the big one exactly. They're gonna They're gonna
go for the biggest possible name they can find. I
just again, I'm curious how far down their list they
have to go before they get the guy that they're
looking at. Will they get their number one guy? Like
if their number one guy on their list is I
don't know, give me a name, Mike, Mike McDonald. I
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don't think he's going from the NFL to Michigan, right.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
He was the guys.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
He was there for a year. He went to Georgia
for God's sakes. And by the way, if Harball, if
Jim Harbaugh still has a bur up his ass for
the Wolverines, guarantee you McDonald's talking to Harball. His son
works for him for God's sakes on his staff. You
know he respects Jim wore.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
That would excommunicate John Harbor. It might as well, absolutely
could for sure.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
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Speaker 5 (29:11):
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Speaker 6 (29:22):
All right, here we go on a busy Wednesday night,
Cracking Hockey. The Boys coming up against the Kings. Pregame
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slash hated you hear that?
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Dick?
Speaker 5 (29:47):
We start in the NFL this morning.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
A first take ESPN NFL analyst Marcus Spears reacting to
the Colts signing Philip Rivers, who might start against the
Seahawks on Sunday.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
Well, Shay, I grew up in a Baptist charg Black
Baptist church in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. And when you get
scared and when you need the Lord to intervene, you
call you. That's what I'm doing for Philip Rivers, trying
to come back and play at forty four.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Years old after being out five years.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
I'm nervous for him because he plays the Seattle Seahawks
this week and if anybody has seen that defense play,
I'm not sure if.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
That's where you want to be.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
If you a good quarterback that's been playing and having reps,
not sure how there's gonna go around Riley Lindard may play,
but Philip Rivers coming back after five years? All I'm
doing this summon in the prayer warriors that when he
leaves this season, he can leave out the way he came.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
God.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
You know, I thought about this a lot, and I
was talking to Hugh about it that my first reaction,
Dick is if he's gonna come play and sign with him,
he wants to start.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
He wants to play. Then I thought to myself, really,
are we certain about that.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
He's forty four, he's got kids, he's coaching high school football.
Does he really want to go into an NFL football
game and risk getting killed against the Seahawks on Sunday?
Because that'd be the worst thing possible, is that Philip
Rivers plays a game and ends up getting hurt.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Are you intimating that I might want to come back
and be a bench I yes, I am.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
I don't think he big old paycheck one hundred percent
for a paycheck, Dick.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I'm not saying he doesn't want to play. I'm just
saying that.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
The idea that the only way he would do this
is if he is told he's going to start.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
I don't know if I believe that anymore. Keep in mind,
Riley Leonard practiced in full today.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Right, Yes, I think I think he's going to start. Yeah,
I think Leonard's gonna start on Sunday. I think phil
I think Philip Rivers is coming in to help it.
I mean, I think what he said today, if he
hurt his clip he was genuine that he wants to
help him out. He's going to come in there. He's
going to hold a clipboard. If he plays, he plays.
If he doesn't, he doesn't. Nice little payday. Whatever helps
out the Rsay family.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Who do we want to have play Ard?
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Probably Leonard, to be honest with you, Yeah, definitely, I
think so too. I mean, how terrible would you feel, though,
if this guy came in off the bench and started
a game for the Colts and got really hurt.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
Against the seat.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
My god, I think it'd be more embarrassing though, if
the Seahawks lost to Riley Leonard than if they lost
to Philip Rivers.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Oh no, I completely disagree.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
Philip Rivers is ninety three years old, but that would
be massives how to.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
Play the positions. I don't believe Leonard knows how to
play the position. Jackson's right, he hasn't played in five years.
He hasn't played in so embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Dicky's forty four gets like, I get it right, Riley
Leonard versus Philip Rivers.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
But what's it's actually a great? Riley Leonard wasn't a great?
What's more, what's.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
More embarrassing losing to a guy that's already in the
system or a guy who hasn't taken a snap in
a football game.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
In five years? Really quick?
Speaker 8 (32:39):
Because I watched the Colts Jaggs game, some of it
because the red zone Riley Leonard did not look half back.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Yeah, all right, well we'll say we'll find out on Sunday.
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to he? What's that?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Dick?
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Former Mariners and Mets closer Edwin Diaz headed to the Dodgers,
but back in New York, Frank the Tank Fleming, our buddy,
noted Mets fan Barstool's resident met raizy Head, learned about
the news from a coworker yesterday that his favorite team
had lost Edwin Diaz.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Have you have you checked Twitter?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
When last minute there's a report Edwin Diaz the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
I knew it was gonna happened.
Speaker 7 (33:13):
I know it is why such sucks the one hundred
and ninety four games next year.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
This one is dying. This question was like, you know,
take Pony Club.
Speaker 9 (33:28):
Take.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Big money anywhere, son, I know that's gonna happen. And
that's only the game that's.
Speaker 8 (33:41):
Gonna be no joy, no joy ever, and that's twenty
games or.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
More heavy and forever. Steve Code is a liar trainer.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Some of it.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
I couldn't understand a word he said until the end. Sid,
So you know what the Pink Pony Club reference is
that I got? Oh god, I mean the Mets losing
streak was on them adopting the Pink Pony Club's song
as they're unoffensed.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
Well, yeah, and then they also had the Grimmace thing.
Remember that was a good one. Yeah, and the McDonald's
good they got to go back to Grimace for crying
out loud. Well, I I don't know, man, I just
know this that the one thing that was obvious to
everybody during the playoffs, especially the World Series, was the
Dodger bullpen was not very good and signing Edwin Diaz
now to combine with the starting pitching they've got.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
I mean, they.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Could easily win three in a row. Boys easily win
three in a row. When was the last time that
happened in baseball? The A's in the seventies, It was
the last time a major.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
League based.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
I don't think the aches they could like they very
easily could have been.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
When was the I'm not asking you who could I'm
asking when was the last time?
Speaker 5 (34:52):
I mean, I'm gonna say it was the A's? Was
it the A's?
Speaker 7 (34:55):
Dick au Jackson was right, Ah, you go ninety eight
to two thousand Yankees?
Speaker 5 (35:00):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Yeah, Well, it doesn't happened for twenty five years. Man,
all right, thet do one more? We got time, We
have time.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
One more?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Come on?
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Why not? All right? Hey, Dick, did you happen to
hear that? What's that? Dick Number one? Is that right
to change the script though? All right? Change the script? Yeah,
he says, let's start with.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
Oh, Notre Dame ad Pete Bavakua. That was Kirk is
having himself a week. Let's start with his Monday interview.
All right, Oh yeah, that's what you meant by change
the script. All right, let's go back to his Monday
interview on wake up barstool, where he was critical of
(35:38):
the College Football Playoffs selection process.
Speaker 10 (35:40):
We don't have any grape with the teams that made it,
or quite frankly, other teams that deserve to be considered.
Our problem, Dave, is with the process, right. So we
were for right or wrong reasons, and you might totally
disagree with me, but we were absolutely led to believe
this entire CFP rank season that we were in. You know,
(36:02):
you go back to that first ranking. We were six
and two. Miami was six and two and they beat us,
but we were both six and two. We were tenth,
they were eighteenth. The only thing that happened from that
point is we both went out for some reason. We
end up eleventh, and on the outside looking in, we're
not getting reasonable explanations for this.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
So okay.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
So the complaint is that after week fifteen, Notre Dame
was tenth and Miami was twelfth BYU between the two
of us, right, and then BYU lost, so they're done,
and then Miami jumps. Notre Dame goes from twelfth to tenth. Well,
Notre Dame goes from tenth to eleventh, and that's what
they're mad about.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
When neither team played. So I get that, right.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
I get if you're going to make all these things
public every single week, which you kind of have to
for transparency, I can get why Notre Dame would say
what the hell? But the other truth for me is
I also think they got the right team. They got
the Miami Notre Dame they deserve to go.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
And I think the commissioner of the college Football Playoff
Committee was very transparent. He said there was a team
in between them. They were not judged by the head
to head because there was.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
A team in between them.
Speaker 7 (37:12):
And we saw lots of reports last week saying if
BYU loses, Notre Dame will be judged more head to
head with Miami, and Miami could flip them.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
This wasn't that big a shock to a lot, But
what was then?
Speaker 6 (37:26):
What was then the reasoning If you're telling me that
the only way head to head comes into play is
if BYU loses, right, what was the reasoning for having
Notre Dame ahead of Miami in the first place?
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Because if you took.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
The head to head out, but Notre Dame's got a
better resume, But why.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Would you take the head to head out if they
both have the same record.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
Because when they're not direct The way it was explained
is when they were not directly together, Okay, they would
not be judged by the head to head, so but
if they were directly next to each other in the polls,
they would have to use the head to head.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
I don't I'm still confused as to why they were
never directly together until the last poll.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Right, But that doesn't make that right. That's stupid. I'm
not saying why would this, Why would they?
Speaker 6 (38:12):
Why would why would Notre Dame be two spots ahead
of Miami and that all of a sudden the team
between them loses, and now we're going to be concerned
about head to head.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
We're not. We're not. We're not saying that this why question?
Why is that we're not saying that.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
We're not saying I understand that, I understand what you're
saying about what they said.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
I'm just confused as to why that.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Was the case. I mean, just took about this. If
we're a Husky fan, are pissed, of course, and the
committee does weird stuff. Man, Like two years ago, remember
all the crap about Florida State. Florida State ended up
getting screwed because Jordan Travis got hurt. I get that,
but they were ahead of us almost the entire way
with a way worse resume than Washington.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
Didn Miami get into national championship game over Washington even
though we beat Miami head to head and they both
had one loss in two thousand.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
Uh, yes, I thought Miami had lost that he beat.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Him in two I don't know, that's a long lest
twenty five years ago, when the year the Huskies finished third. Yes, okay,
and they had the one loss to Oregon in two thousand, right.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
Yes, I believe Miami lost one game that regular season.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Well, I know Miami played Ohio State a couple years
later in that triple overtime game.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
I just don't.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
I mean, look, I get why Notre Dame is upset.
I think the way they've reacted to it is a low, ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (39:35):
Final regular season poll. Miami was eleven and one, ranked second.
Washington was eleven and one with they win over Miami
and they were ranked third.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
But that what was Miami's resume? Who did they beat
that year?
Speaker 6 (39:46):
I look, I understand it if the resume is so
much better, right, like head to head should matter, but
it should not be the only thing that matters. If if,
if Notre Dame. I know we're laid here, but whatever.
If Notre Dame had the same record as Miami but
lost to Miami but also had eight wins against top
ten teams in Miami dozen't, then Notre Dame's got the
(40:08):
better resume.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
But they didn't have that.
Speaker 6 (40:11):
Neither team had a particular neither team had scheduled, So
what the hell was Notre Dame doing there in the
first place.
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