December 11, 2024 • 37 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain talk about the Bill Belichick to North Carolina news, talk about the latest NFL news and Seahawks-Packers with Mike Florio, talk about the Mariners’ trade rumors, then chat with Kraken Head Coach Dan Bylsma.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where a great day to have Florio on the air
with us in about five minutes from now, because Bill
Belichick has agreed to become the head coach at North Carolina.
And remember when the story broke a couple of days
ago that he was interviewing for the job, all of
us said, whatever, that's just a bunch of nonsense.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
He's just he's bored. He's going down there.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
He's trying to, you know, pop up his resume a
little bit and maybe make himself more attractive to somebody,
to kind of put his toe in the water and
see if there's something out there for Steve. And then
three days later, boom, he's the head coach at North Carolina.
So it's unbelievable how this has progressed and how fast
it's progressed. And think it's a great day to get
Mike on Dick, because I got a lot of questions
about this. Number one, is he taking Steve with him,
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which I assume he is. Is he going to be
the head coach in waiting at Carolina, which I assume
he's going to be. And then number three, does this
say that Bill Belichick, at the age of what seventy two,
is that correct. Bill Belichick, at the age of seventy two,
is more concerned about landing his son a gig than
he is his own future. Meaning, was there a possibility
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of Bill Belichick going back to the NFL in twenty
twenty five and becoming a head coach and did he
say no to that? Because at this point, he'd rather
get his son in a position to become a head coach,
and the only way he could do that was by
taking a head coaching job in college football. So how
attractive was he to the NFL? Did he turn down
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NFL gigs? Was somebody going to come after Bill? A
lot of questions for Flori on about four minutes from now.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I actually think this makes more sense than him going
back to the NFL, because I don't know why an
owner or a general manager would want to do what
you would have to do to get Bill Belichick, and
that's basically hand the keys to your entire franchise over
a seventy two year old that had zero success on
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the field once Tom Brady left for Tampa Bay and
a guy that has been notoriously difficult to work with.
And so I think this makes more sense because Bill
comes in as the owner, the general manager, and the
head coach of North Carolina football, so everyone answers to him,
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which is exactly what he wants.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Well, he was never going to get an NFL head
coaching job where the owner would agree to make Steve
the head coach when Bill leaves. That was never going
to happen in the NFL, right, So that's my point.
That is Bill Belichick literally turning down other NFL jobs.
And I disagree with you on hiring Bill, but that's fine.
Is is he literally turning down other NFL jobs because
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you know what, Yeah, I'd like to go be the
coach of the Bears or whoever, but my main motivation
is my kid, and I want to get the guy
a job.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And look, I'll say it right now. I said it
to Hugh this morning.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Do we think it's a little bit I don't know
if douch she's the right word, But if you're Steve
Belichick and you want to be a head coach, either
in college ball or the NFL, is it a little
bit lame that the way you're getting your first job
is because your father is demanding it as terms of
him taking the gig himself. Do you feel though weird
doing that if you're Steve Belichick. Now, look, I mean
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there's nepotism going on all over the place, and you know,
Steve Belichick got a shot, Kyle Shanahan got a shot,
Brendan Carroll got a shot. I agree and understand all
of that. But Steve Belichick has already proven himself as
a defensive coordinator, and now he's going to go to
a school with his father, and the only reason why
he's going there is so his dad can include him
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along for the ride and make him the next head
coach at North Carolina. If that's the way it goes down,
Is that kind of weird? Would you feel weird about
that in the short run?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
A little bit?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
But if Steve Belichick becomes a great head coach.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
People forget ball in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Nobody's gonna remember, Hey, you only got your job told
your dad was the coach.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Totally agree. I'm talking about right now.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Right Like, for example, let's say you had you had
something that you wanted to do right and the only
way that you were going to get to do it
is if your dad took a gig and said, I'll
take the job, but you got to hire my son,
what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Would you feel weird about that? I think you feel
weird about it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
A little bit weird about that. But I think Steve
Belichick has proven to be a very good defensive coordinator.
I would think this is totally weird. If Steve Belichick
was terrible at his job. If Steve Belichick came here
and this defense was ninety second in America and they
just looked like a mess, I'd be like, come on this.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So this isn't a James deal.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
No, Steve Bellich, Like I've said many times, Steve Belichick
has impressed me more than any coordinator in this city
this football season, one of the four coordinators number one.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
What McDonald's doing now now Now, yes, but Steve Belichick,
that defense did not have a lot of studs on it,
and they were fan.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Tasted nobody up front, that's for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
But that's the big story, man, is that Bill Belichick
is heading to North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So Mike Florial, good to go, Jackson. Let's get to
it right now.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
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Speaker 1 (05:23):
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Speaker 2 (05:45):
Here he is.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
What a time to have him on the air. Great
timing with the Belichick news. Our friend from Pro Footballtalk
dot com, the NFL and NBC, Mike Florio.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
How are you man?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Not much, Bill Belichick, go to the Carolina tar Heels.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Your thoughts go ahead.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
The floor is yours, speaking of buttholes, I'm just kidding.
Here's the reality. We reported on Sunday night, Football Night
in America that Belichick had been very surprised by the
lack of interest he'd received from NFL teams this season,
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and three teams had vacancy still have vacancy. They had
not reached out to him. We reported that as well,
and we know how this game goes. There is opportunity
to contact anyone who's not connected to a team. Before
you fired the coach you had, he had heard nothing,
he was getting no interest and considered the past week
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after it became clear that he was interviewing with North
Carolina and interested in that opportunity. Did we see a
single report from anyone fit there was an NFL team
hoping to intervene and talk to him or just pay
this so maybe you should wait a little while, or
another college program saying hey, if you're going to come
to college, wait a little while. For us, there was nothing,
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not even kind of a phony vague there may be
a mystery team. It's so easy to manipulate things. And
he's got media connections who could have pushed that out there.
None of that happened. It was North Carolina or nothing,
and we'll see what the final deal is. But he
didn't have a lot of leverage if he wanted to
coach because there wasn't a door number two. It was
North Carolina or nothing. And through a full week of
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everyone knowing he was in play to coach at North Carolina,
there was nothing to suggest that anyone else was going
to do it. And remember when he said last year,
or it was attributed to him, that he doesn't need
full control of a program, he just needs to coach. Well,
one of the things he liked about going to college
he'll have full control of the program. So he always
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wanted that. I think the instincts of the owners who
didn't hire him last year were right. He's going to
come in and take over. You may as well just
let him because if you if you don't, he still will.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
How much do you think it's Bill Belichick wanting to
coach and how much do you think it's Bill Belichick
wanting to set his son up asap for a head
coaching job.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
I think that's part of it that's been reported, and
I've heard that. I don't know that he was successful
in creating a succession plan whereby Steve would join him
at North Carolina and be the coach in waiting and
Bill would become essentially coach emeritus. After X number of years.
And that's the other side of this. And look, I
have a problem with the NFL being agists, and college
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football might be that same way. But the reality is,
you want to hire a guy that's potentially going to
be there over the long haul. How long is Bill Belichick,
who turned seventy three in April, how long is he
going to be there? And that opens the door for
thinking about succession on the way in. But if they
weren't comfortable, and again we'll find out in the final
deal points. But if they weren't comfortable creating that kind
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of a promise, then Belichick would would have to make
the final decision do I want to do this or not? Again,
what's his alternative? Because anyone and everyone that would have
been remotely interested in hiring him new and there was
no delay, there was no suggestion. So whether he gets
it or not, he was trying to and we'll see
if he got something for Steve.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, how funny would it be if he just stayed
at Chapel Hill for a year and then just took
off and gave Steve the gig or maybe like a month.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
You know what, I thought I could do this. I can't.
It's Steve's gig now it's like October.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
But Mike Florio's with us, and Mike, you know, I'm
just curious about the Sunday night game. You're gonna be
on the broadcast. You do that from a studio. You're
not coming out here right for the game? Is that
correct on Sunday night?
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Well, I'm glad that you watch Football Night in America
to know where I am on Sunday night. If you watched,
you would know that we're only on the road for
the first game of the season and then a playoff
game possibly. But every Sunday we're in Connecticut at the
NBC Sports headquarters. But Rodney Harrison will be out there,
Tony Dungee and Jack Collinsworth, they're the folks who handle
contributions to the pregame show from the game site.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Well, I just thought for a split second that you know,
got for bid. You want to come out here and
see your buddies Softy and Dick and Jackson and sayalo
in person.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
But I'm sorry for thinking that.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
But let's talk about the Packers and the Seahawks on Sunday.
How do you see this thing going down on Sunday night.
This is a gigantic game for the Hawks.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Man, Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Big game for the Hawks, a big game for the
Packers too. You know, the Packers have lost four games
this year, no, five games this year to three teams
that are a combined Wait, if they've lost four games
to three teams that are combined thirty nine and five,
I think I got that right, or thirty five and
five or something like that. Bottom line, I got I
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screwed up my stat bottom line is the teams they've
lost to four total losses are really freaking good. So
they are an elite team and they are a team
that is capable of getting hot. And the Seahawks need
to keep winning and they'll know by Sunday night whether
or not the Rams have gotten their win Thursday night
against the forty nine ers. But you know, the Seahawks
have finally found consistency, four straight wins coming out of
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the by Leonard Williams told me after they be suggests
that they treated the rest of the regular season like
the playoffs, and there's a team every year that does
that and makes it work and they end up going
into the playoffs with that playoff Talus already formed, and
they can be very dangerous. And look, if they win
that division, they're going to host the Packers of the Vikings,
most likely maybe the Lions in a wild card game.
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That's going to be shades of twenty ten Beast Quake
all over again, where a team comes in with a
record maybe four or five games better, but the Seahawks
have the edge because they're playing at home.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Well, one of those teams Green Bay loss too, was Philadelphia,
and Philadelphia hasn't lost since September. But now we're hearing
that there's a bit of a spat between the quarterback
and the wide receiver. Brandon Graham unearthed that on Philly radio.
Is this something or nothing in Philadelphia?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
I think it's something, And I think one of the
things that's fascinating about the Eagles, they spent a lot
of time circling the wagons and concealing whatever it was
when Haywire last year to cause that team to start
losing and keep losing all the way through, except for
like one late season win over the Giants, they lost
all the way through to the wild Card round against
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Tampa Bay and the same circumstance nine games over five hundred,
just like last year, and they're getting ready to play
the forty nine ers big late season home game against
an elite team, Steelers coming to town. Is this the time?
Is this the moment where it all kind of catches
up with them? And these wins that are almost Kansas
City style, There aren't a lot of dominant, impressive wins.
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They barely beat the Panthers last weekend. Is this the
time that it blows up? And can they control whatever
this frustration is from AJ Brown and the problem with
it coming to the surface. It gives the Steelers a
signal on how to maybe go about defending the Eagles.
Frustrate AJ Brown, put a couple of guys on and
bang them around, keep the from getting the ball, and
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see if you can cause this thing to reach critical mass.
So I think it's important. We have eighty three net
passing yards against one of the worst teams in the NFL,
and you've got Jalen Hurts who had a market value
contract he signed it. AJ Brown, We've had two market
value contracts and to be traded the team and Deontae
Smith who has a pretty good deal as well. And
you have eighty three nets passing yards. You have a
problem in your passing game. They're riding Tae Kon Barkley
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more than they should, and the Steelers might be in
a position to knock them down a peg as they
try to chase the line to the top seed in
the NFC.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Mike Florio with us on the air, Mike, I know
the Seahawks did this earlier this year, right Dick where
they played the three games and eleven days. Thing that
the Chiefs are about to go through. And of course
when the Chiefs do it, everybody talks about it. Now
Maholmes is talking about it, so all of us get
to hear about it. Nobody gave it damn when the
Seahawks did it. But this seems borderline ridiculous and I
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don't want to sound dramatic, but kind of dangerous for
teams to be playing three games in eleven days. Is
this something the NFL is going to eventually have to
look at and stop.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Well, look, the Steelers are going to do it, The
Ravens are going to do it, the Chiefs are going
to do it. The Texans are going to do it
because they've got Sunday then Saturday. Then Whensy so the
Jets did it to start the season Monday Sunday Thursday.
The league justified years ago when it began Thursday night
football on a regular basis. They justified the short recovery
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time by saying the injury rate when games are a
week apart is no different than the injury rate when
the games are four days apart Sunday to Thursday. But
that is such a misleading statistic. Injury rate in game
speaks nothing to the cumulative wear and tear. You could
get so banged up in those two games, you have
the injury the next game. And the other problem with
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it is guys who would be ready to go on
Sunday aren't ready on Thursday. So this is a significant
late season toll on multiple different teams. But they don't care.
They're snaggling the schedule to maximize the windows on primetime
and it's just deal with it. That's the attitude. And
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so it's unfortunate, and it's permanent, and if anything, is
going to become more prevalent, because I think they're going
to keep looking for more ways to cram pizza into
the crust of the cheese or cheese and the crust
the pizza, whichever one's accurate, because that's how they make money,
more standalone games, more money, bigger audiences, and that's what
they're trying to do.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Mike, it seems funny to me that so many people
are worried about this year's Chiefs team when last year
they lost five of their last ten games to close
the season and had to go on the road and
win the playoffs, and they won the Super Bowl. And
so why are so many people worried about this Chief's
team who's winning close games versus last year's Chiefs team
who lost close games and still won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Well, I don't know many people that really are worried
about the Chiefs, because the Chiefs keep doing what they do.
They keep finding ways to win. They keep finding different
ways to win. We'll block a field goal, we'll joink
a field goal, we'll get this break, we'll make this happen.
We keep finding ways to win. And at some point
you just wonder whether or not that experience of going
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all the way to shoot both three times, down double
digits three times in the second half, come back and win.
You get into those moments in the regular season game
and you're not affected by it. Meanwhile, the team you're
playing is thinking, oh God, here it comes. They're gonna
do it again. And I think that's an important and
tangible aspect. The Chiefs have supreme confidence that they won't
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freak out in those moments, and their opponents are thinking,
oh no, oh no, it's inevitable. The only way to
really beat the chief is to just clauber them to
go up by thirty at a half or hell, maybe
gonna be up more than that, because they just find
a way and they have an appreciation of the moments
when it's time to step up and get it done.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
All right, man, hey, really great stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Looking forward to seeing you on the broadcast on Sunday night, and.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
We'll talk in a week.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
All right, see see what Mike.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Florio see At the end, you can kind of tell
there's that like half second pause where he's racking his
brain to say something like a smart ass, right, and
if he can't figure something out, he'll just say goodbye.
But you can tell there's always a little bit of
a pause. He wants to bust my balls a little
bit more before we wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
All right, we'll come back the big news in the NFL.
We'll get to that.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Obviously, there's news churning, the rumor millist churning regarding the
Mariners as well.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
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Speaker 7 (17:20):
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Speaker 1 (17:34):
All right back here on a busy Wednesday, Bill Belichick
the big news of the day, green to become the
new head coach at North Carolina. We'll see what happens
with a Steve Belichick. Buddy of mine texted me that, hey,
if maybe Brendan Carroll I should pull a power move
like Belichick did with Chapel Hill and say I'll stay
on as long as you hire my dad to be
the defensive coordinator. Yes, you think Pete Carroll wants to
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leave the classroom in LA and become the defensive coordinator?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Fish?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Would you be okay getting rid of Steve Belichick if
it meant that Pete Carroll would be the new DC
of the Huskies.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I would rather have Steve Belichick than Pete Carroll, but
I'd rather have Pete Carroll than a lot of guys
we probably could or would get.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Well, he's gonna go NFL.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
You know that he'll try to go NFL if Steve
does take off. And nothing's official on that, so got
that going on. The other big news of the day,
the Red Sox made a move for a starting pitcher,
requiring Garrett Crochet from the White Sox. Garrett Crochet had
a three five eight ERA last year and went six
and twelve. That's how much the White Sox sucked last year.
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That's kind of a Mariner's unbelievable right. The Red Sox
gave up their fourth, fifth, eleventh, and fourteenth best prospects
to get the guy, including their number four prospect to
catch her, named Kyle Teel. Now there's reports and rumors,
I think Jude and Divish were on this, that the
Mariners potentially are putting Luis Castillo on the trade market.
And there's been a rumor about Tristan Cassis, the young
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first baseman for the Red Sox. He sat out I
think about one hundred games a year ago with a
rib injury. He's twenty four years old. And there's a
report that the Castillo for Casas deal might be happening.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Look, I'm just going to say this right now.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I think if you get rid of Luis Castillo for
a bat and you don't replace him with another really
good starting pitcher, it's sad and it's pathetic and it's unfortunate.
And I said that yesterday to you, right that if
we're going to be living in a world where we
have to bust up our rotation because we cannot find
offense ourselves, and the only way we can do that
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is to go out and give up a quality starting
pitcher for it, I just think it's pathetic. And if
they get Sasaki and bring him on right and then
make the trade for Castillo, okay, great, fine, but you
got to make.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Part two of that move.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Because Luis Castillo, guys, has start sixty three games the
last two years. He was sixteenth in the American League
in ERA twenty ninth in Major League Baseball. For as
much as we've been in some ways disappointed, and I
understand that dick about what we thought Luis Castile was
gonna be when they made the move for him two
years ago. We all thought he'd be your number one starter,
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he'd be dominant, he'd be complete game shutouts and be
a cy young candidate. And that hasn't happened for Luis Castile.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
He was in twenty twenty two when he came over
for us.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
He was awesome in the second half, right, But I
still think he's been pretty damn freaking.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Good, guys, pretty good. Yeah, I think he's been really good.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I mean, we are just dismissing a lot of us
around here what Luis Castillo has meant for this rotation.
So you gotta be really careful. You're gonna get rid
of this guy. You better damn well find a.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Way to go.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I think it's obvious, or get much better significantly on offense.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I think it's obvious why we feel that way about
Luis Castillo, because we're sitting here paying him a bunch
of money, and then we're like, wait a second, this
Miller guy's better, This Gilbert guy's better, This Kirby guy's better,
this wu guy's better. There's four guys right there making
no money that are better than this guy.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
But who cares about the money?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Okay, go ahead and make your point.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Go ahead, And and you know that's that's a big
reason though you saw you know you sign him to
a big deal. You expect to get big deal production,
and you are getting massive production by these four young kids,
and you were getting good production by this guy making
all this money. Same thing with the same thing with
Robbie Ray. You get one year out of Robbie Ray
and you spent a ton of money on it, and
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he ended up not being that good. And so this
is a trade that I would make. Now, I don't
know much about process, No I would make.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I would make.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
This type of trade is a trade that I would make.
I would trade Luis Castillo for a guy that the
Mariners believe is a middle of the order type bat.
This guy, I don't think is a superstar, but he's
a guy that's on the way up. He's got what'd
you say, Jackson? Five years of club control time he's
a cre agent is twenty nine, which is Jerry Depoto's
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favorite phrase, club control.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
He also missed one hundred games last year. Is even
more of a Mariner than we thought. And he strikes
out a lot.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
He does strick for this part, strikes out a lot,
but more I think maybe the timing is it might
behoove the Mariners to go after Sasaki. First and see
if you get him, and then if you get him,
then you can really make this move now. But maybe
Boss is like, no, we gotta make this deal now.
And if that's the case, then you know you probably
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either pull the trigger on this or a deal similar
to this for another three, four, five, six hitter.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, they just made the move for Crochet, so I
don't know what that says about their willingness to also
go after Castillo. Maybe they will do it, and they
want two quality guys in their rotation. They could use
some pitching, There's no question about that. But I mean,
I don't even know where to start with all this.
I think you know now what might take is on
the finance situation. The idea that we're moving this guy
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because he's underperforming his contract, I mean, I think that's
just throw that out. I mean, he's here, okay, nor
is there's another reason he's in your rotation. He's kicking ass,
he's doing great. Why would you want to get rid
of a guy who was sixteenth in the American League
in era, in top thirty in baseball and if he
ends up being your number five starter in performance? Meeting
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Wu and Miller and Kirby and Gilbert are more talented
or better pitchers than Luis Castillo.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Dick, that is phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I mean, that is exactly what every general manager goes
to bed dreaming about having a guy.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Like that in the back end of your rotation.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
But the sad part is that the finances play such
a big deal. It is pathetic, it's sad, it's annoying.
So when they so when they look at the situation
and say, look at how much Emerson Hancock makes and
look how much Luis Casino makes, and if we're talking
about a five starter and a financial difference, the sad,
pathetic thing is, that's.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
What's the odds.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I don't want to let these guys off the hook
for that, Dick, That's my point.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
And I understand that, but I mean, at some point
you got at some point you just got to let
it go. I mean, it's one thing about letting them
off the whole driving Why how how do we know?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I want to hold the fire, always hold the feet
to the fire, hold them accountable. Yeah you are good,
I'll make the fans happy.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Hold them but you never hold them accountable.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Well that's part of it, Okay, you honestly want me
to drop the idea that we have to give up
a guy because we can't develop offense and we should
factor in the finances as a reason to justify the.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
More I want to do that, I think more of
the reason is you got a factor in the park,
and nobody wants to sign here, No hitter wants to
sign here. That's what you really have to factor. And
you also have to factor in the case that. Let's
not compare Luis Castillo last year with Emerson Hancock last year. Okay,
let's compare an aging veteran starter next year compared to
an up and coming twenty four year old starter next year.
(24:48):
Keep in mind and how much difference will you really
get out of those.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
Two Luis Castillo still has three years seventy three million
on those contracts.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
What he's got three years left? Great, fantastic club control.
If you want him pitch for three years, if he's
doing this, absolutely okay.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
What if he's thirty one, he's not sixty.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
What if he's four to two e R this year
for eight e R A next year and you're like, dude,
we can't.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Start this right And what if I could hit by
a bus on the way home from work. I mean,
there's a lot of stuff that that's what happens. Do
you see do you see Louisis Castillo going to a
four and a half e r A?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I mean, why why?
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, it's true, not hear me? Why would you think
he would do that?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Here?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Though, I mean, what has Luis Castillo showing you that?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I still have not gotten over the fact that Luis
Castillle was a massive reason the twenty twenty three Mariners
barely missed the playoffs?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Okay, how about how about that guy did run perform?
Julioguez is the entire offense? How about your dh about
your first basement? How about your right field? Or how
about your left field? Or how about your third basement?
How about your second basement? I mean, my god, I mean, look,
Luis Castillo started thirty games for you. In those thirty games,
he gave up seventy one earned runs. You want to
(26:02):
do the hairball thing? Yeah, right here, the hairrible Okay,
because you got for Hancock right, yes, Hancock's hairball thing.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
You throw it two starts for Emison, Hancock's got three
one eura lest if you throw it three starts for Castillo,
he's got a three one yard okay in twenty seven games,
and that's in how many games?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Then for Hancock nine, twelve, ten, so he started he
started twelve gameslve games. This guy did that in twenty
seven of thirty games. We want to give him away
for a dude that missed one hundred freaking games a
year ago.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
What are we doing here? We're gotta break.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Dan Bilsma joins next on ninety three to three kJ IRFM.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
It's time for Saffi and Dick's weekly visit with Seattle
Creek and head coach Dan Bilsma, brought to you by
Dick's Drive In, serving great biggers, fries and shakes the
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the nine Dicks Drive Ins locations today now with our
head coach Dan Bilsma.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Deer's Safdian diet back for Cana. Now for Steven said
doomas slot.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Terren McCann got the pump over the gourd.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
He found stevens in streaking in and must Seattle crack
it take a what nothing lead?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Oh, it would have been phenomenal to start this thing
off two weeks in a row coming off a win.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Huh, Well, they played very well last night.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
But you know what, our our friend Disco Dan has
higher expectations than that, and he joins us right now
on the radio show, head coach, if your Seattle Kraken
Disco Dan Balsma with us on the ear.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
How are you, coach?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I'm dancing.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Well, let's uh, let's go back to last night.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I mean, look, obviously nobody will ever sign up for
a two to one shootout loss. But did you go
to bed last night with some good vibes and positive
thoughts with the way your boys played against the defending
Cup champions.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Definitely did. I think you know, there was a couple
of challenges for the guys coming off the road trip
one where we you know, had a good amount of
success on the road, played, played some good games, played
some of our best hockey, and challenges to bring it
back home. And you're sitting staring at the FIDA Panthers
Stanley Cup champs and they're a very real good team
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and they were all that last night. I think you
know we went we went blow for blow with them.
I think we probably our best defensive effort of the
year playing defense against a big, strong, heavy four check
and those guys in zone. But I think we missed
a few of our opportunities that we could have had
(28:47):
with with what we had the other way, and that
some of that was some turnovers. But we Yanny Gordon
break away three on one with the two with Matty
Brenier's breaks his stick on it, Brennan montour right down
the pipe for a great scoring chance. In the third.
I think there was there was enough scoring chances for us.
(29:07):
There was enough opportunities to pull that one out, pull
out the win. And in overtime we had three more.
We had to break away all over board strand breakaway
and Jerry McCann drives in that with a great play,
doesn't score. Shane right had another opportunity there and overtime
and uh, those ones leave you wanting.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
You mentioned Gord there, you didn't get to finish the
game with with Yannie. How is he doing after leaving
the game.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
Well, he's he's day to day.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
We'll say it that he's, you know, dealing with a
little bit of an injury from the road trip. Had
some rests, thought he was good to go, just got
a little worse in the in the game, and I
think he had one shift in the third period that
(29:58):
I was the one who have to pull him out.
You can never pull that guy out of a game.
But you know, he's he's a guy who lays it
on the lawn every night, got a lot of juice,
out of energy, and you just he was. He got
to a point where he wasn't gonna go anymore. So
he's day to day. We'll see probably, you know, looking
forward to this week. Probably not seem tomorrow night, but
(30:21):
hopefully and probably for Tampa Bay game on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Well, Dan Bosmana's with us on the radio show and
coach we talked last week about Berukofski and what you
were looking for out of him. We talked about the
big boy hockey thing and that certainly showed itself on
that road trip three and one on the East Coast.
But Berkofsky, I think, if I have my numbers right,
missed the or did not play sorry in the first
two games of the trip, and now he's played three
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in a row. I guess, for lack of a better term,
has he turned the corner on the progress that you
were looking for out of him.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
I think he jumped into the Jersey game and you know,
showed showed where he's good shoe. What he can do
is a lot of speed through the neutra zone, scores
a great goal for us and in Jersey there to
get us on the board. He also had another great
rush play three on one that he took a shot
(31:15):
on which we wanted them to just narrowly off his shoulder.
But you know, he's he he's an impact player and
we need him to be an impact player for for
our team. And that's that's continued he you know, I thought, uh,
you know last night he was much like our our
team game there was he had a few opportunities. He
(31:36):
had a two on one which he caught the crest
on the goaltender, but you know it was our team
kind of went with our the puck play of Andre
and the gee. We had some opportunities to to also
play in the offensive zone and and turn those turn
those fucks over, and that made us play a lot
more des in the game than we needed to be.
(31:57):
But I think I said, he's he come to the
game last night. He's an impact player for us.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
And needs to be How's Jared doing. How's uh, we're
gonna see him tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
We'll call it day to day.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
But this wasn't part of our agreement.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
By the way, You're supposed to give us all the
injury updates and tell us the truth.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Damn well, I Gordo's not going to be that one.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
But Jared, Jared's better.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I don't know if I don't know if Boston's listening
to this on the radio right now, but Jared's day
to day he was he took a maintenance date today
and he's kind of been dealing with a nagging injury
for a little bit now. And I, well, we'll see
when the Jerseys go on tomorrow night, but I I
certainly would like to see him in the lineup.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Got ruins get all their hockey information.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
That's what I heard.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, Joe Socco is the interim guy.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I don't if you know Joe or not, but he's
got a habit of listening online to the iHeartRadio app
and tuning into our radio show to see what the
hell is going on with the Kraken. So it's it's
it's smart for you to keep your trap shut, but
coach before you go. Dan Bousma with us. I don't
know how much interaction you had with David Bonderman directly
on like a day to day or week to week basis,
(33:19):
But anytime an owner passes away, a guy that obviously
had a gigantic imprint on this team coming to Seattle
and the Arena and the Boston Celtics, share with us
if you can, maybe a couple of anecdotes your thoughts
on the passing of David Bonderman.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Yeah, I certainly sad sommer day around here with the
news of mister Bonaman passing away, and it just it
highlights just the passion and the energy and the mantra
and the dream he had for for our organization and
for Seattle League. I had the fortunate opportunity to meet
(34:00):
with him a few times and talk with him. The
best time on the plane up here to be announced
as the head coach. I spent with David and his
family and talking about the Seattle cracking, talking about the building,
talking about Seattle, talking about music and the venues and
(34:21):
the people that he's interacted with and he's had a
chance to bring to to the world. It's it was
the passion and the the energy and the the kind
of just the the real, the real uh passion he
had for the community and passion he had for the
(34:41):
organization showed through, and it's it's it's a sad day
around here. It's it's something that will surely be missed,
but something I think each and every one of us
wants to carry on going forwards.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Final minute with cracking head coach Dan Bilesman and Dan
last night notwithstanding for Boston who comes into town to
I mean, he got hammered by Winnipeg, but they had
won seven of nine with their new interim coach since
Jim Montgomery was fired. So what's been different about them
on film?
Speaker 5 (35:12):
I think Boston Brewing Hockey at leasts been a little
bit different. I think, you know, unfortunately for the previous
coach head outstanding record over the last couple of years,
but I think with the with the change, they've just
focused on getting back to Boston brewin hockey, which is hard. Nos.
(35:35):
It's gritty, good, defensively good goaltending and just you know,
they've they've done it over the course of the last
many years. Some faces have changed, but I think they
just got back to a little more, you know, grittier harder, meaner,
better defense, tops style hockey. It uh in, it's paid
(35:58):
off for him in the last ten games or so.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
I didn't. I didn't necessarily like seeing their score last
night and what happened in the game, because I think
it's just going to provide a little, a little, big,
bigger bur in their side coming into Seattle.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well, if they're gonna come here and play that physical hockey,
then punch them right in the mouth and play that
big boy hockey you talked about last week.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Just scratching clock, get them back right their kneecaps. You
know you're gonna fall down, but get back up. Yep,
it's gonna we You know, we we got a dose
of them earlier in the year, and and their first
period and in Boston was all of that. We were
(36:44):
didn't win that game. We came back and responded the
third period with a great third period count doing a
doing the same to them. So I expected to be
uh you know, I expected to be a nose to
those if we're going to have success, I expected to
the notes, punch it out, get it, get back at him,
take it to them. So let's see it, go get
(37:08):
it let's say, let's see it.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Let's see it baby, six thirty pregame seven o'clock, face
off tomorrow, go get him and we're talking a week.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I appreciate this.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
All right, thanks guys, all right, guys, all right, you bet.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Dan Bosma with us on the radio show every Wednesday
at three forty five courtesy of Dick's Drive Ins. We're
Gonna Break. Petro's gonna join us next on ninety three
to three kJ RFM
Where a great day to have Florio on the air
with us in about five minutes from now, because Bill
Belichick has agreed to become the head coach at North Carolina.
And remember when the story broke a couple of days
ago that he was interviewing for the job, all of
us said, whatever, that's just a bunch of nonsense.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
He's just he's bored. He's going down there.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
He's trying to, you know, pop up his resume a
little bit and maybe make himself more attractive to somebody,
to kind of put his toe in the water and
see if there's something out there for Steve. And then
three days later, boom, he's the head coach at North Carolina.
So it's unbelievable how this has progressed and how fast
it's progressed. And think it's a great day to get
Mike on Dick, because I got a lot of questions
about this. Number one, is he taking Steve with him,
(00:42):
which I assume he is. Is he going to be
the head coach in waiting at Carolina, which I assume
he's going to be. And then number three, does this
say that Bill Belichick, at the age of what seventy two,
is that correct. Bill Belichick, at the age of seventy two,
is more concerned about landing his son a gig than
he is his own future. Meaning, was there a possibility
(01:04):
of Bill Belichick going back to the NFL in twenty
twenty five and becoming a head coach and did he
say no to that? Because at this point, he'd rather
get his son in a position to become a head coach,
and the only way he could do that was by
taking a head coaching job in college football. So how
attractive was he to the NFL? Did he turn down
(01:27):
NFL gigs? Was somebody going to come after Bill? A
lot of questions for Flori on about four minutes from now.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I actually think this makes more sense than him going
back to the NFL, because I don't know why an
owner or a general manager would want to do what
you would have to do to get Bill Belichick, and
that's basically hand the keys to your entire franchise over
a seventy two year old that had zero success on
(01:53):
the field once Tom Brady left for Tampa Bay and
a guy that has been notoriously difficult to work with.
And so I think this makes more sense because Bill
comes in as the owner, the general manager, and the
head coach of North Carolina football, so everyone answers to him,
(02:14):
which is exactly what he wants.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Well, he was never going to get an NFL head
coaching job where the owner would agree to make Steve
the head coach when Bill leaves. That was never going
to happen in the NFL, right, So that's my point.
That is Bill Belichick literally turning down other NFL jobs.
And I disagree with you on hiring Bill, but that's fine.
Is is he literally turning down other NFL jobs because
(02:39):
you know what, Yeah, I'd like to go be the
coach of the Bears or whoever, but my main motivation
is my kid, and I want to get the guy
a job.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And look, I'll say it right now. I said it
to Hugh this morning.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Do we think it's a little bit I don't know
if douch she's the right word, But if you're Steve
Belichick and you want to be a head coach, either
in college ball or the NFL, is it a little
bit lame that the way you're getting your first job
is because your father is demanding it as terms of
him taking the gig himself. Do you feel though weird
doing that if you're Steve Belichick. Now, look, I mean
(03:15):
there's nepotism going on all over the place, and you know,
Steve Belichick got a shot, Kyle Shanahan got a shot,
Brendan Carroll got a shot. I agree and understand all
of that. But Steve Belichick has already proven himself as
a defensive coordinator, and now he's going to go to
a school with his father, and the only reason why
he's going there is so his dad can include him
(03:36):
along for the ride and make him the next head
coach at North Carolina. If that's the way it goes down,
Is that kind of weird? Would you feel weird about
that in the short run?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
A little bit?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
But if Steve Belichick becomes a great head coach.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
People forget ball in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Nobody's gonna remember, Hey, you only got your job told
your dad was the coach.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Totally agree. I'm talking about right now.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Right Like, for example, let's say you had you had
something that you wanted to do right and the only
way that you were going to get to do it
is if your dad took a gig and said, I'll
take the job, but you got to hire my son,
what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Would you feel weird about that? I think you feel
weird about it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
A little bit weird about that. But I think Steve
Belichick has proven to be a very good defensive coordinator.
I would think this is totally weird. If Steve Belichick
was terrible at his job. If Steve Belichick came here
and this defense was ninety second in America and they
just looked like a mess, I'd be like, come on this.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So this isn't a James deal.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
No, Steve Bellich, Like I've said many times, Steve Belichick
has impressed me more than any coordinator in this city
this football season, one of the four coordinators number one.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
What McDonald's doing now now Now, yes, but Steve Belichick,
that defense did not have a lot of studs on it,
and they were fan.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Tasted nobody up front, that's for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
But that's the big story, man, is that Bill Belichick
is heading to North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So Mike Florial, good to go, Jackson. Let's get to
it right now.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
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(05:22):
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Speaker 1 (05:23):
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Speaker 2 (05:45):
Here he is.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
What a time to have him on the air. Great
timing with the Belichick news. Our friend from Pro Footballtalk
dot com, the NFL and NBC, Mike Florio.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
How are you man?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Not much, Bill Belichick, go to the Carolina tar Heels.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Your thoughts go ahead.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
The floor is yours, speaking of buttholes, I'm just kidding.
Here's the reality. We reported on Sunday night, Football Night
in America that Belichick had been very surprised by the
lack of interest he'd received from NFL teams this season,
(06:25):
and three teams had vacancy still have vacancy. They had
not reached out to him. We reported that as well,
and we know how this game goes. There is opportunity
to contact anyone who's not connected to a team. Before
you fired the coach you had, he had heard nothing,
he was getting no interest and considered the past week
(06:46):
after it became clear that he was interviewing with North
Carolina and interested in that opportunity. Did we see a
single report from anyone fit there was an NFL team
hoping to intervene and talk to him or just pay
this so maybe you should wait a little while, or
another college program saying hey, if you're going to come
to college, wait a little while. For us, there was nothing,
(07:07):
not even kind of a phony vague there may be
a mystery team. It's so easy to manipulate things. And
he's got media connections who could have pushed that out there.
None of that happened. It was North Carolina or nothing,
and we'll see what the final deal is. But he
didn't have a lot of leverage if he wanted to
coach because there wasn't a door number two. It was
North Carolina or nothing. And through a full week of
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everyone knowing he was in play to coach at North Carolina,
there was nothing to suggest that anyone else was going
to do it. And remember when he said last year,
or it was attributed to him, that he doesn't need
full control of a program, he just needs to coach. Well,
one of the things he liked about going to college
he'll have full control of the program. So he always
(07:50):
wanted that. I think the instincts of the owners who
didn't hire him last year were right. He's going to
come in and take over. You may as well just
let him because if you if you don't, he still will.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
How much do you think it's Bill Belichick wanting to
coach and how much do you think it's Bill Belichick
wanting to set his son up asap for a head
coaching job.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
I think that's part of it that's been reported, and
I've heard that. I don't know that he was successful
in creating a succession plan whereby Steve would join him
at North Carolina and be the coach in waiting and
Bill would become essentially coach emeritus. After X number of years.
And that's the other side of this. And look, I
have a problem with the NFL being agists, and college
(08:31):
football might be that same way. But the reality is,
you want to hire a guy that's potentially going to
be there over the long haul. How long is Bill Belichick,
who turned seventy three in April, how long is he
going to be there? And that opens the door for
thinking about succession on the way in. But if they
weren't comfortable, and again we'll find out in the final
deal points. But if they weren't comfortable creating that kind
(08:53):
of a promise, then Belichick would would have to make
the final decision do I want to do this or not? Again,
what's his alternative? Because anyone and everyone that would have
been remotely interested in hiring him new and there was
no delay, there was no suggestion. So whether he gets
it or not, he was trying to and we'll see
if he got something for Steve.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, how funny would it be if he just stayed
at Chapel Hill for a year and then just took
off and gave Steve the gig or maybe like a month.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
You know what, I thought I could do this. I can't.
It's Steve's gig now it's like October.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
But Mike Florio's with us, and Mike, you know, I'm
just curious about the Sunday night game. You're gonna be
on the broadcast. You do that from a studio. You're
not coming out here right for the game? Is that
correct on Sunday night?
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Well, I'm glad that you watch Football Night in America
to know where I am on Sunday night. If you watched,
you would know that we're only on the road for
the first game of the season and then a playoff
game possibly. But every Sunday we're in Connecticut at the
NBC Sports headquarters. But Rodney Harrison will be out there,
Tony Dungee and Jack Collinsworth, they're the folks who handle
contributions to the pregame show from the game site.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Well, I just thought for a split second that you know,
got for bid. You want to come out here and
see your buddies Softy and Dick and Jackson and sayalo
in person.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
But I'm sorry for thinking that.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
But let's talk about the Packers and the Seahawks on Sunday.
How do you see this thing going down on Sunday night.
This is a gigantic game for the Hawks.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Man, Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Big game for the Hawks, a big game for the
Packers too. You know, the Packers have lost four games
this year, no, five games this year to three teams
that are a combined Wait, if they've lost four games
to three teams that are combined thirty nine and five,
I think I got that right, or thirty five and
five or something like that. Bottom line, I got I
(10:36):
screwed up my stat bottom line is the teams they've
lost to four total losses are really freaking good. So
they are an elite team and they are a team
that is capable of getting hot. And the Seahawks need
to keep winning and they'll know by Sunday night whether
or not the Rams have gotten their win Thursday night
against the forty nine ers. But you know, the Seahawks
have finally found consistency, four straight wins coming out of
(10:58):
the by Leonard Williams told me after they be suggests
that they treated the rest of the regular season like
the playoffs, and there's a team every year that does
that and makes it work and they end up going
into the playoffs with that playoff Talus already formed, and
they can be very dangerous. And look, if they win
that division, they're going to host the Packers of the Vikings,
most likely maybe the Lions in a wild card game.
(11:20):
That's going to be shades of twenty ten Beast Quake
all over again, where a team comes in with a
record maybe four or five games better, but the Seahawks
have the edge because they're playing at home.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Well, one of those teams Green Bay loss too, was Philadelphia,
and Philadelphia hasn't lost since September. But now we're hearing
that there's a bit of a spat between the quarterback
and the wide receiver. Brandon Graham unearthed that on Philly radio.
Is this something or nothing in Philadelphia?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
I think it's something, And I think one of the
things that's fascinating about the Eagles, they spent a lot
of time circling the wagons and concealing whatever it was
when Haywire last year to cause that team to start
losing and keep losing all the way through, except for
like one late season win over the Giants, they lost
all the way through to the wild Card round against
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Tampa Bay and the same circumstance nine games over five hundred,
just like last year, and they're getting ready to play
the forty nine ers big late season home game against
an elite team, Steelers coming to town. Is this the time?
Is this the moment where it all kind of catches
up with them? And these wins that are almost Kansas
City style, There aren't a lot of dominant, impressive wins.
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They barely beat the Panthers last weekend. Is this the
time that it blows up? And can they control whatever
this frustration is from AJ Brown and the problem with
it coming to the surface. It gives the Steelers a
signal on how to maybe go about defending the Eagles.
Frustrate AJ Brown, put a couple of guys on and
bang them around, keep the from getting the ball, and
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see if you can cause this thing to reach critical mass.
So I think it's important. We have eighty three net
passing yards against one of the worst teams in the NFL,
and you've got Jalen Hurts who had a market value
contract he signed it. AJ Brown, We've had two market
value contracts and to be traded the team and Deontae
Smith who has a pretty good deal as well. And
you have eighty three nets passing yards. You have a
problem in your passing game. They're riding Tae Kon Barkley
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more than they should, and the Steelers might be in
a position to knock them down a peg as they
try to chase the line to the top seed in
the NFC.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Mike Florio with us on the air, Mike, I know
the Seahawks did this earlier this year, right Dick where
they played the three games and eleven days. Thing that
the Chiefs are about to go through. And of course
when the Chiefs do it, everybody talks about it. Now
Maholmes is talking about it, so all of us get
to hear about it. Nobody gave it damn when the
Seahawks did it. But this seems borderline ridiculous and I
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don't want to sound dramatic, but kind of dangerous for
teams to be playing three games in eleven days. Is
this something the NFL is going to eventually have to
look at and stop.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Well, look, the Steelers are going to do it, The
Ravens are going to do it, the Chiefs are going
to do it. The Texans are going to do it
because they've got Sunday then Saturday. Then Whensy so the
Jets did it to start the season Monday Sunday Thursday.
The league justified years ago when it began Thursday night
football on a regular basis. They justified the short recovery
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time by saying the injury rate when games are a
week apart is no different than the injury rate when
the games are four days apart Sunday to Thursday. But
that is such a misleading statistic. Injury rate in game
speaks nothing to the cumulative wear and tear. You could
get so banged up in those two games, you have
the injury the next game. And the other problem with
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it is guys who would be ready to go on
Sunday aren't ready on Thursday. So this is a significant
late season toll on multiple different teams. But they don't care.
They're snaggling the schedule to maximize the windows on primetime
and it's just deal with it. That's the attitude. And
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so it's unfortunate, and it's permanent, and if anything, is
going to become more prevalent, because I think they're going
to keep looking for more ways to cram pizza into
the crust of the cheese or cheese and the crust
the pizza, whichever one's accurate, because that's how they make money,
more standalone games, more money, bigger audiences, and that's what
they're trying to do.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Mike, it seems funny to me that so many people
are worried about this year's Chiefs team when last year
they lost five of their last ten games to close
the season and had to go on the road and
win the playoffs, and they won the Super Bowl. And
so why are so many people worried about this Chief's
team who's winning close games versus last year's Chiefs team
who lost close games and still won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Well, I don't know many people that really are worried
about the Chiefs, because the Chiefs keep doing what they do.
They keep finding ways to win. They keep finding different
ways to win. We'll block a field goal, we'll joink
a field goal, we'll get this break, we'll make this happen.
We keep finding ways to win. And at some point
you just wonder whether or not that experience of going
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all the way to shoot both three times, down double
digits three times in the second half, come back and win.
You get into those moments in the regular season game
and you're not affected by it. Meanwhile, the team you're
playing is thinking, oh God, here it comes. They're gonna
do it again. And I think that's an important and
tangible aspect. The Chiefs have supreme confidence that they won't
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freak out in those moments, and their opponents are thinking,
oh no, oh no, it's inevitable. The only way to
really beat the chief is to just clauber them to
go up by thirty at a half or hell, maybe
gonna be up more than that, because they just find
a way and they have an appreciation of the moments
when it's time to step up and get it done.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
All right, man, hey, really great stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Looking forward to seeing you on the broadcast on Sunday night, and.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
We'll talk in a week.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
All right, see see what Mike.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Florio see At the end, you can kind of tell
there's that like half second pause where he's racking his
brain to say something like a smart ass, right, and
if he can't figure something out, he'll just say goodbye.
But you can tell there's always a little bit of
a pause. He wants to bust my balls a little
bit more before we wrap it up.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
All right, we'll come back the big news in the NFL.
We'll get to that.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Obviously, there's news churning, the rumor millist churning regarding the
Mariners as well.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Next on ninety three to three KJARFM.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick on your home for
the Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJR FM.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
All right back here on a busy Wednesday, Bill Belichick
the big news of the day, green to become the
new head coach at North Carolina. We'll see what happens
with a Steve Belichick. Buddy of mine texted me that, hey,
if maybe Brendan Carroll I should pull a power move
like Belichick did with Chapel Hill and say I'll stay
on as long as you hire my dad to be
the defensive coordinator. Yes, you think Pete Carroll wants to
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leave the classroom in LA and become the defensive coordinator?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Fish?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Would you be okay getting rid of Steve Belichick if
it meant that Pete Carroll would be the new DC
of the Huskies.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I would rather have Steve Belichick than Pete Carroll, but
I'd rather have Pete Carroll than a lot of guys
we probably could or would get.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Well, he's gonna go NFL.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
You know that he'll try to go NFL if Steve
does take off. And nothing's official on that, so got
that going on. The other big news of the day,
the Red Sox made a move for a starting pitcher,
requiring Garrett Crochet from the White Sox. Garrett Crochet had
a three five eight ERA last year and went six
and twelve. That's how much the White Sox sucked last year.
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That's kind of a Mariner's unbelievable right. The Red Sox
gave up their fourth, fifth, eleventh, and fourteenth best prospects
to get the guy, including their number four prospect to
catch her, named Kyle Teel. Now there's reports and rumors,
I think Jude and Divish were on this, that the
Mariners potentially are putting Luis Castillo on the trade market.
And there's been a rumor about Tristan Cassis, the young
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first baseman for the Red Sox. He sat out I
think about one hundred games a year ago with a
rib injury. He's twenty four years old. And there's a
report that the Castillo for Casas deal might be happening.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Look, I'm just going to say this right now.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I think if you get rid of Luis Castillo for
a bat and you don't replace him with another really
good starting pitcher, it's sad and it's pathetic and it's unfortunate.
And I said that yesterday to you, right that if
we're going to be living in a world where we
have to bust up our rotation because we cannot find
offense ourselves, and the only way we can do that
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is to go out and give up a quality starting
pitcher for it, I just think it's pathetic. And if
they get Sasaki and bring him on right and then
make the trade for Castillo, okay, great, fine, but you
got to make.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Part two of that move.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Because Luis Castillo, guys, has start sixty three games the
last two years. He was sixteenth in the American League
in ERA twenty ninth in Major League Baseball. For as
much as we've been in some ways disappointed, and I
understand that dick about what we thought Luis Castile was
gonna be when they made the move for him two
years ago. We all thought he'd be your number one starter,
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he'd be dominant, he'd be complete game shutouts and be
a cy young candidate. And that hasn't happened for Luis Castile.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
He was in twenty twenty two when he came over
for us.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
He was awesome in the second half, right, But I
still think he's been pretty damn freaking.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Good, guys, pretty good. Yeah, I think he's been really good.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I mean, we are just dismissing a lot of us
around here what Luis Castillo has meant for this rotation.
So you gotta be really careful. You're gonna get rid
of this guy. You better damn well find a.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Way to go.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I think it's obvious, or get much better significantly on offense.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I think it's obvious why we feel that way about
Luis Castillo, because we're sitting here paying him a bunch
of money, and then we're like, wait a second, this
Miller guy's better, This Gilbert guy's better, This Kirby guy's better,
this wu guy's better. There's four guys right there making
no money that are better than this guy.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
But who cares about the money?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Okay, go ahead and make your point.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Go ahead, And and you know that's that's a big
reason though you saw you know you sign him to
a big deal. You expect to get big deal production,
and you are getting massive production by these four young kids,
and you were getting good production by this guy making
all this money. Same thing with the same thing with
Robbie Ray. You get one year out of Robbie Ray
and you spent a ton of money on it, and
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he ended up not being that good. And so this
is a trade that I would make. Now, I don't
know much about process, No I would make.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I would make.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
This type of trade is a trade that I would make.
I would trade Luis Castillo for a guy that the
Mariners believe is a middle of the order type bat.
This guy, I don't think is a superstar, but he's
a guy that's on the way up. He's got what'd
you say, Jackson? Five years of club control time he's
a cre agent is twenty nine, which is Jerry Depoto's
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favorite phrase, club control.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
He also missed one hundred games last year. Is even
more of a Mariner than we thought. And he strikes
out a lot.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
He does strick for this part, strikes out a lot,
but more I think maybe the timing is it might
behoove the Mariners to go after Sasaki. First and see
if you get him, and then if you get him,
then you can really make this move now. But maybe
Boss is like, no, we gotta make this deal now.
And if that's the case, then you know you probably
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either pull the trigger on this or a deal similar
to this for another three, four, five, six hitter.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, they just made the move for Crochet, so I
don't know what that says about their willingness to also
go after Castillo. Maybe they will do it, and they
want two quality guys in their rotation. They could use
some pitching, There's no question about that. But I mean,
I don't even know where to start with all this.
I think you know now what might take is on
the finance situation. The idea that we're moving this guy
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because he's underperforming his contract, I mean, I think that's
just throw that out. I mean, he's here, okay, nor
is there's another reason he's in your rotation. He's kicking ass,
he's doing great. Why would you want to get rid
of a guy who was sixteenth in the American League
in era, in top thirty in baseball and if he
ends up being your number five starter in performance? Meeting
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Wu and Miller and Kirby and Gilbert are more talented
or better pitchers than Luis Castillo.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Dick, that is phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I mean, that is exactly what every general manager goes
to bed dreaming about having a guy.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Like that in the back end of your rotation.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
But the sad part is that the finances play such
a big deal. It is pathetic, it's sad, it's annoying.
So when they so when they look at the situation
and say, look at how much Emerson Hancock makes and
look how much Luis Casino makes, and if we're talking
about a five starter and a financial difference, the sad,
pathetic thing is, that's.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
What's the odds.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I don't want to let these guys off the hook
for that, Dick, That's my point.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
And I understand that, but I mean, at some point
you got at some point you just got to let
it go. I mean, it's one thing about letting them
off the whole driving Why how how do we know?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I want to hold the fire, always hold the feet
to the fire, hold them accountable. Yeah you are good,
I'll make the fans happy.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Hold them but you never hold them accountable.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Well that's part of it, Okay, you honestly want me
to drop the idea that we have to give up
a guy because we can't develop offense and we should
factor in the finances as a reason to justify the.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
More I want to do that, I think more of
the reason is you got a factor in the park,
and nobody wants to sign here, No hitter wants to
sign here. That's what you really have to factor. And
you also have to factor in the case that. Let's
not compare Luis Castillo last year with Emerson Hancock last year. Okay,
let's compare an aging veteran starter next year compared to
an up and coming twenty four year old starter next year.
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Keep in mind and how much difference will you really
get out of those.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
Two Luis Castillo still has three years seventy three million
on those contracts.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
What he's got three years left? Great, fantastic club control.
If you want him pitch for three years, if he's
doing this, absolutely okay.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
What if he's thirty one, he's not sixty.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
What if he's four to two e R this year
for eight e R A next year and you're like, dude,
we can't.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Start this right And what if I could hit by
a bus on the way home from work. I mean,
there's a lot of stuff that that's what happens. Do
you see do you see Louisis Castillo going to a
four and a half e r A?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I mean, why why?
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, it's true, not hear me? Why would you think
he would do that?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Here?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Though, I mean, what has Luis Castillo showing you that?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I still have not gotten over the fact that Luis
Castillle was a massive reason the twenty twenty three Mariners
barely missed the playoffs?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Okay, how about how about that guy did run perform?
Julioguez is the entire offense? How about your dh about
your first basement? How about your right field? Or how
about your left field? Or how about your third basement?
How about your second basement? I mean, my god, I mean, look,
Luis Castillo started thirty games for you. In those thirty games,
he gave up seventy one earned runs. You want to
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do the hairball thing? Yeah, right here, the hairrible Okay,
because you got for Hancock right, yes, Hancock's hairball thing.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
You throw it two starts for Emison, Hancock's got three
one eura lest if you throw it three starts for Castillo,
he's got a three one yard okay in twenty seven games,
and that's in how many games?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Then for Hancock nine, twelve, ten, so he started he
started twelve gameslve games. This guy did that in twenty
seven of thirty games. We want to give him away
for a dude that missed one hundred freaking games a
year ago.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
What are we doing here? We're gotta break.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Dan Bilsma joins next on ninety three to three kJ IRFM.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
It's time for Saffi and Dick's weekly visit with Seattle
Creek and head coach Dan Bilsma, brought to you by
Dick's Drive In, serving great biggers, fries and shakes the
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the nine Dicks Drive Ins locations today now with our
head coach Dan Bilsma.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Deer's Safdian diet back for Cana. Now for Steven said
doomas slot.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Terren McCann got the pump over the gourd.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
He found stevens in streaking in and must Seattle crack
it take a what nothing lead?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Oh, it would have been phenomenal to start this thing
off two weeks in a row coming off a win.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Huh, Well, they played very well last night.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
But you know what, our our friend Disco Dan has
higher expectations than that, and he joins us right now
on the radio show, head coach, if your Seattle Kraken
Disco Dan Balsma with us on the ear.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
How are you, coach?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I'm dancing.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Well, let's uh, let's go back to last night.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I mean, look, obviously nobody will ever sign up for
a two to one shootout loss. But did you go
to bed last night with some good vibes and positive
thoughts with the way your boys played against the defending
Cup champions.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Definitely did. I think you know, there was a couple
of challenges for the guys coming off the road trip
one where we you know, had a good amount of
success on the road, played, played some good games, played
some of our best hockey, and challenges to bring it
back home. And you're sitting staring at the FIDA Panthers
Stanley Cup champs and they're a very real good team
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and they were all that last night. I think you
know we went we went blow for blow with them.
I think we probably our best defensive effort of the
year playing defense against a big, strong, heavy four check
and those guys in zone. But I think we missed
a few of our opportunities that we could have had
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with with what we had the other way, and that
some of that was some turnovers. But we Yanny Gordon
break away three on one with the two with Matty
Brenier's breaks his stick on it, Brennan montour right down
the pipe for a great scoring chance. In the third.
I think there was there was enough scoring chances for us.
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There was enough opportunities to pull that one out, pull
out the win. And in overtime we had three more.
We had to break away all over board strand breakaway
and Jerry McCann drives in that with a great play,
doesn't score. Shane right had another opportunity there and overtime
and uh, those ones leave you wanting.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
You mentioned Gord there, you didn't get to finish the
game with with Yannie. How is he doing after leaving
the game.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
Well, he's he's day to day.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
We'll say it that he's, you know, dealing with a
little bit of an injury from the road trip. Had
some rests, thought he was good to go, just got
a little worse in the in the game, and I
think he had one shift in the third period that
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I was the one who have to pull him out.
You can never pull that guy out of a game.
But you know, he's he's a guy who lays it
on the lawn every night, got a lot of juice,
out of energy, and you just he was. He got
to a point where he wasn't gonna go anymore. So
he's day to day. We'll see probably, you know, looking
forward to this week. Probably not seem tomorrow night, but
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hopefully and probably for Tampa Bay game on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Well, Dan Bosmana's with us on the radio show and
coach we talked last week about Berukofski and what you
were looking for out of him. We talked about the
big boy hockey thing and that certainly showed itself on
that road trip three and one on the East Coast.
But Berkofsky, I think, if I have my numbers right,
missed the or did not play sorry in the first
two games of the trip, and now he's played three
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in a row. I guess, for lack of a better term,
has he turned the corner on the progress that you
were looking for out of him.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
I think he jumped into the Jersey game and you know,
showed showed where he's good shoe. What he can do
is a lot of speed through the neutra zone, scores
a great goal for us and in Jersey there to
get us on the board. He also had another great
rush play three on one that he took a shot
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on which we wanted them to just narrowly off his shoulder.
But you know, he's he he's an impact player and
we need him to be an impact player for for
our team. And that's that's continued he you know, I thought, uh,
you know last night he was much like our our
team game there was he had a few opportunities. He
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had a two on one which he caught the crest
on the goaltender, but you know it was our team
kind of went with our the puck play of Andre
and the gee. We had some opportunities to to also
play in the offensive zone and and turn those turn
those fucks over, and that made us play a lot
more des in the game than we needed to be.
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But I think I said, he's he come to the
game last night. He's an impact player for us.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
And needs to be How's Jared doing. How's uh, we're
gonna see him tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
We'll call it day to day.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
But this wasn't part of our agreement.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
By the way, You're supposed to give us all the
injury updates and tell us the truth.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Damn well, I Gordo's not going to be that one.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
But Jared, Jared's better.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I don't know if I don't know if Boston's listening
to this on the radio right now, but Jared's day
to day he was he took a maintenance date today
and he's kind of been dealing with a nagging injury
for a little bit now. And I, well, we'll see
when the Jerseys go on tomorrow night, but I I
certainly would like to see him in the lineup.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Got ruins get all their hockey information.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
That's what I heard.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, Joe Socco is the interim guy.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I don't if you know Joe or not, but he's
got a habit of listening online to the iHeartRadio app
and tuning into our radio show to see what the
hell is going on with the Kraken. So it's it's
it's smart for you to keep your trap shut, but
coach before you go. Dan Bousma with us. I don't
know how much interaction you had with David Bonderman directly
on like a day to day or week to week basis,
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But anytime an owner passes away, a guy that obviously
had a gigantic imprint on this team coming to Seattle
and the Arena and the Boston Celtics, share with us
if you can, maybe a couple of anecdotes your thoughts
on the passing of David Bonderman.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Yeah, I certainly sad sommer day around here with the
news of mister Bonaman passing away, and it just it
highlights just the passion and the energy and the mantra
and the dream he had for for our organization and
for Seattle League. I had the fortunate opportunity to meet
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with him a few times and talk with him. The
best time on the plane up here to be announced
as the head coach. I spent with David and his
family and talking about the Seattle cracking, talking about the building,
talking about Seattle, talking about music and the venues and
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the people that he's interacted with and he's had a
chance to bring to to the world. It's it was
the passion and the the energy and the the kind
of just the the real, the real uh passion he
had for the community and passion he had for the
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organization showed through, and it's it's it's a sad day
around here. It's it's something that will surely be missed,
but something I think each and every one of us
wants to carry on going forwards.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Final minute with cracking head coach Dan Bilesman and Dan
last night notwithstanding for Boston who comes into town to
I mean, he got hammered by Winnipeg, but they had
won seven of nine with their new interim coach since
Jim Montgomery was fired. So what's been different about them
on film?
Speaker 5 (35:12):
I think Boston Brewing Hockey at leasts been a little
bit different. I think, you know, unfortunately for the previous
coach head outstanding record over the last couple of years,
but I think with the with the change, they've just
focused on getting back to Boston brewin hockey, which is hard. Nos.
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It's gritty, good, defensively good goaltending and just you know,
they've they've done it over the course of the last
many years. Some faces have changed, but I think they
just got back to a little more, you know, grittier harder, meaner,
better defense, tops style hockey. It uh in, it's paid
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off for him in the last ten games or so.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
I didn't. I didn't necessarily like seeing their score last
night and what happened in the game, because I think
it's just going to provide a little, a little, big,
bigger bur in their side coming into Seattle.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well, if they're gonna come here and play that physical hockey,
then punch them right in the mouth and play that
big boy hockey you talked about last week.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Just scratching clock, get them back right their kneecaps. You
know you're gonna fall down, but get back up. Yep,
it's gonna we You know, we we got a dose
of them earlier in the year, and and their first
period and in Boston was all of that. We were
(36:44):
didn't win that game. We came back and responded the
third period with a great third period count doing a
doing the same to them. So I expected to be
uh you know, I expected to be a nose to
those if we're going to have success, I expected to
the notes, punch it out, get it, get back at him,
take it to them. So let's see it, go get
(37:08):
it let's say, let's see it.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Let's see it baby, six thirty pregame seven o'clock, face
off tomorrow, go get him and we're talking a week.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I appreciate this.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
All right, thanks guys, all right, guys, all right, you bet.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Dan Bosma with us on the radio show every Wednesday
at three forty five courtesy of Dick's Drive Ins. We're
Gonna Break. Petro's gonna join us next on ninety three
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