December 12, 2025 • 28 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Hugh Millen, who breaks down the game between Seattle and Indy, plus the Sherrone Moore Michigan situation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now with you, here's Safie and Dig.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
All right, normally we have this guy on Monday for
a little more at four, but how about even more
at four on a Friday afternoon. Humelan joining us right
now on the radio station, Hue, how are you?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Palt's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm doing great, Good to be with you. What's happening?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Well, there's a lot going on, dude.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
The Sharon Moore story just getting sadder and sadder by
the second. This Kyle Whittingham story stepping down after twenty
one years as the Utah head coach. The Colts might
be starting a forty four year old grandpa on Sunday,
literally a grandpa against the Seahawks. I mean, I don't
know what's got your being a bonnet right now?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Man?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Tell us, well, I think among those things. You know,
just looking at Philip Rivers, in looking at all of
the history of the NFL. Now Rivers just turned forty
four on December eighth, right, So I said, well, okay,
all all starts by quarterbacks age forty three or above, Well,
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there's been sixty seven games that have been started by
a quarterback who's forty three or older. Of those sixty five,
the person is Tom Brady in fifty seven of them.
Steve de Bergh had one. He threw for one hundred
and seventeen yards and a forty three passer rating. Warren
Moon had one he threw for one hundred and thirty
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yards and a thirty eight passer rating, both of those losses.
By the way. Then Vinnie Testa Verdi had six and
he was two and four in those and average one
hundred and fifty nine yards passing and average just sixty
four pass rating. So now Brady had a lot of
really good starts in those. So if you're not Tom Brady, basically,
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if he has any good game, it's almost like he'll
be the second man in the history of planet Earth
to do it at his age, bucking extremely long odds.
And that's not even talking about the five year layoffs.
So I think all signs point towards a really difficult
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day for him. Now. The one thing two things to mention.
I do think that there's a galvanizing effect. I think
that the Colts they were really down on Monday with
Daniel Jones and the injury, and they thought, oh boy,
we're done. I think the old Man has probably infused
the based on reports I've seen and what have you
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comments from the Colts, I think the old Man has
infused them with some confidence that they may have for
a driver to this Sunday. It's the Seahawks obligation to
squelch that. And then the other part of it is
is the Colts actually have a really good array of
targets for any quarterback with with Ty Warren and Pittman
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and a couple other receivers and of course Jonathan Taylor.
So there's some dudes on there. That was an offense
that as of this Sunday morning was number one in
the NFL and points scored. So that's something that I
think Philip rivers. If he's going to drive some confidence,
it will be when he looks around at the guys
he's thrown to because there's some guys.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Now, Yeah, I agree with you that that's probably the
thought process to give him a little bit of hope.
It flies in the face of what Ryan Clark said
though this morning. He said it was quote incompetent and irresponsible.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
For the Colts to start Philip Rivers. How would you
respond to.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
That, Well, what does he say is the alternative? I mean,
I would not like to be Brett Rippan, who's the healthy,
you know, professional that's being overlooked on here. So I
think in that regard he has a point. I think
Ryan Clark is he's been a controversial guy for a
number of years. I don't know where the irresponsibility is.
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I heard the sound clip. I think he was alluding
to how old and how immobile Philip Rivers is. But
you know Tom Brady, you know, he makes the point
that sacks are more about the quarterback than any other aspect.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
To that point, in Tom Brady's last two years, the
quarterback in the NFL who had the lowest sack rate
was Tom Brady. The quarterback in both of those years
who had the highest sack rate was justin fields in
this era or any era, what however, you want to
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describe mobile quarterbacks and that group versus immobile quarterbacks. The
mobile quarterbacks always take more sacks, they take more chances
the immobile quarterbacks. As a rule, they know that they
don't have the legs to avoid sacks, and so they
have to be aware of what their checkdowns are, change
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the protections, get the ball out of their hand. They
never really think, oh, my legs are going to get
me out of this trouble. So that's not to say
that Philip Rivers isn't going to surrender a lot of
sacks a lot of hits. I mean he's going against
the team in the Seahawks that are number one in pressures,
number one in pressure percentage of forty four point two percent.
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Number one. This excuse me, this is since week six.
This is after Tampa Bay when they got Eamon Worry
and their guys back. This is week week six and beyond.
Number one in yards fewest yards per game, Number one
in defensive EPA, number one in percentage of plays with
five rushers that result in offensive negative EPA. Sorry that's
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reading word for word from the NFL staff portal. I
mean this is this, This defense here is you know,
a a a titanic force that he's going to have
to deal with.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
And I.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Don't see all signs. I can't. I can't close my
eyes and see Philip Rivers having any kind of successful
day off.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, well, can you close your eyes and seeing see
Riley Leonard having any success against the Hawks? I mean,
I guess the way, Well, the way we're talking here
is that we're expecting Rivers to start.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
The Colts have not said anything.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
They will not say anything until Sunday, which is smart
by them. Are you assuming, Hugh, that we're going to
see Philip Rivers start this game?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Well, I don't have anything other than what the reports
are saying, and they think, you know, people who cover
this are saying that it's leaning towards Philip Rivers. You know,
Riley Leonard has a NAMCL. I've had an mcluh. There's
grade one, two and three. I haven't heard or has
it been disclosed whether it's a grade one, which is
my grade three, which is severe. I had a Grade
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two something in between, and and so I don't know.
I think that if if Riley Leonard were healthy, I
think he'd be the starter. Brett Rippon is going to
be the backup if Riley Leonard is is not playing.
So yeah, I think I guess I would say I'll
be surprised if I don't see Philip Rivers, because that's
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the way the reports have suggested.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Is this an indictment on the depth of the quarterback
position in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well, I think that you know, this all transpired after
the trading deadline, right, and so I think we have
a totally different situation. I think what we have here is,
you know, Brett Rippon, for whatever reason, he has not impressed.
They took a gamble. I mean, think about this, if
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if we see Philip Rivers. Remember now this is Anthony Richardson.
You know, he's on a rookie contract, but he was
the fourth overall pick, and so the the competition was
Daniel Jones versus Anthony Richardson. Well, Anthony Richardson, you know,
evidently can't handle the rubber band without you know, blinding himself.
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So so he's out of contention. Riley Leonard has the
mc SO at best, Philip Rivers is the fourth string
quarterback right and and because of his familiarity with the
Shane Stike in offense, I believe it was some six
years that Rivers played in that offense, that that's the
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reason why it's him above all others that are being
thrust into this situation. But I think you'd see a
lot of desperate teams if they're down to their fourth
quarterback after the trade deadline.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, nobody's going to expect any depth at number four
for sure. This is crazy where the bad luck that
Indianapolis has had. But let me ask you about the
injury work that came out the other day. Because Jalen
Sundale Hugh back full participant in practice, I mean just
getting him back. I'm assuming that you think he's a
better option than big Olu, But how much of an
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upgrade is it if Jalen Sundale can actually go in
this game.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Well, he's certainly a better athlete. I think he's a
better center. I think that he's a smart guy. I
don't want to get over my skis and make proclamations
about the communication and how the unit plays better because
of his communication, But I think it's a fair inference
when you look at how they played it as a group.
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So yeah, I think he was a reason there was
a reason why he was the starter, and if you
get him back, you want him back. Now, he still
has the deficiency that he's he's a little bit weak
in terms of when he has to encounter bull rushes.
His outright strength is his biggest minus. But the athleticism
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pieces is deaf only an upgrade and so if he's
in there, I think that you're gonna have a better center.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Hugh Devin Witherspoon is the highest rated PFF player in
the entire NFL this past week, and he's the highest
defensive back on the season at a ninety point eight. Now,
he hasn't played in all the games, but when he
has played, has he played like an All pro in
your mind?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Like PFF describes him.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, I wouldn't run from that. I think that, you know,
he's played much more outside and I think that that's smart.
You know, he while he's got the feistiness, I mean,
he you know, he's like I've got a My wife
likes French bulldogs and it turns out they're a really
cool breath. But our little frenchie man, he hasn't looked
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in the mirror. You know, he thinks he's a Rottwiler
and and you know that's his mentality. And he's the
alpha dog over the our other dog who's much bigger
than him. And so I think that Witherspoon, you know,
he has not checked the scale. He doesn't know he's
one hundred and eighty one pounds. He throws his body
around like he's two twenty. Well, that's the exact weight
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that Emon Worry was at the combine. So you're picking
up thirty nine pounds by having even Worry. I'm just
going combine weights thirty nine pounds by uman Worry as
your Nicol sam as opposed to to Witherspoon. So you
push Witherspoon out outside. There's nothing he can't do. He's
got the athleticism, he's got the temperament. There's you know,
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his his feistiness shows up on outside, you know, bubble screens,
toss plays, stretch plays, like he's gonna come up and
he's gonna throw his body around. So but then he
can cover. You know, Dave wasn't in a week or
two ago. You get he said, man, I don't remember
Witherspoon making any plays. And we're like, yeah, that's a
good thing. Right out of sight, out of mind.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
If if a cry said that, I never said that.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I said that about Witherspoon, Well we're talking spoon man.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Whatever it was, Well, that's weird. You know, maybe maybe
I manufactured it. In my mind. I thought we were
I thought we were both agreen that Witherspoon, that that
he had a quiet game, and that that was a
good thing.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
You and I talked, You and I last week talked
about Woollen and said that.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah. Yeah, maybe I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
You know what, I say. A lot of things here
that I forget. So it's certainly a chance that I'm
older than Philip Rivers. So yeah, I get it, man,
I mean I don't. I don't remember the last question
I asked you for crying out loud versus what I
said a week ago on the radio show.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
But you just go with it. You said it.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, we agreed.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, dude, I said what what I did say.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I know this a couple of days ago, is that
I think that Seahawks fans should be talking about winning
a Lombardi now, not next year, not in two years,
for now. I think in Mike McDonald's second year, people
should be talking about the Seahawks winning a title?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Why wait? Right? I mean sometimes you got to go
just just put on the gas, no brakes, and and uh,
I think that the NFL is right. I mean, who's
the one team if it's not Seattle. You know, I
can look at Vegas odds just like you can.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You know, I guess the Rams, the Eagles if they
ever turn things around. Are the Patriots the best team
in the AFC? I don't know who's the best team
in the AFC, but sure I think that it's all
about just peaking. And I do think that there's issues
with the offensive line that are ultimately their biggest challenge
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to deal with that. But you still got another month
to to try and get your house in order in
that regard, and and of course a week from last
night is going to be, you know, the big test.
But but yeah, I agree with that sentiment absolutely. There's
no reason to not say why not us.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I saw a price tag attached to Ken Walker for
the first time today, and the estimate was four years
between nine and ten dollars per year. If the Seahawks
wanted to do that, I can tell what Softy's response
to that is, get it what do you think you.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, I'm probably probably out on that, and it's not
because I am not a believer in his talent and
that I'm not a believer that he's by far the
most skilled running back that's been on the roster for
the last few ever since he's been on the team. Really,
I don't think that they've used him exactly the way
I would have liked to have seen him use now
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if they were load managing and managing rather because of
his ankle, I'll take that fact into consideration, but I
think that they've just kind of distributed the load too
much to warrant that type of price. And of course
he's getting older, and you don't, you know, sell your
truck while it's still running, right, And I think with
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running backs they can fall off hard. So I've probably
would be against it, But I sure do admire his talent.
When you see him just do things that he often
does by the way, you know, you look and just
say on a pretty regular basis, you go, there's nobody
on the Seahawks you can do that, right, And it
may only be a one or two yard game, but
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he didn't have a two yard loss, and you're just saying, whoa,
that's kind of breathtaking.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, I just feel huge, not interrupted, But I want
to get this before the break what you just said.
We got like one minute here about how the Hawks
aren't using him properly, and I totally agree with that.
It just seems like every coordinator they've got, they're not
able to figure it out, right, Like they kind of
weren't able to figure it out with Dk Metcalf.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
But DK's gone.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
And I just look at Kenny Walker and I see
a guy that should be catching.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Fifty balls a year out of the backfield for the Hawks.
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, I don't get down. I think that he's the
better runner. I mean, you look at his explosive rate.
It's far higher. So it's just kind of rolling dice
and the chance that it comes up with a big
play is far higher. And and so now you're gonna
let him walk and then all of a sudden you're
gonna say to me, well, how do you feel about
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the starting tailback?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Right?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
You know is and and uh you know, to me,
Zach Charbonney, if he's your your starting tailback, that's that
that that thrust into a a primary like you know,
mandatory upgrade position in the offseason.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, well you can argue they need an upgrade anyway. Right,
if they're not going to be able to figure out Canaine,
then they might want to go in the draft and
get somebody else anyway.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Hugh, hang on, we got more coming up. We want
to get to.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
We got to get your thoughts on the Sharon Moore
situation obviously at Michigan. Uh that vacancy, Jed's potential candidacy,
Klein de bores potential candidacy.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
All that and more with Hugh Mellan.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
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Speaker 4 (17:06):
Three point three FL. I'll want to jump right into it.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Uh here, we just had a little bit of a
debate off the air based on the Devin Witherspoon thing.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
It just kind of popped into my brain.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I was looking at the twenty twenty three draft and
I'm just curious if you can go back and do
it all over again two years ago, who would you
rather have on the Seahawks. He's John Robinson or Devin Witherspoon.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I think I'll still be wrestling with that question twenty
four hours from now. I the reason I I just
don't want to close my eyes and see a team
without Witherspoon, not just because of how he plays, but
I think that his competitive nature is so infectious, and
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so I just it's like a non starter for me.
But then Bijon Robinson, I think is the best running
back in football, and I can't imagine how much better
they'd be with the best running back in football. But
I don't think they've used Kenneth Walker, who's the top
five potential talent, the same way. I don't know. I
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don't know. I'll give you the worst answering radio I hack.
My strongest take is you shouldn't have a strong take
on that one, because there's you should be really close
either way.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
What do you think about it? We can chew on
it next writing. All right, how's that wen? We have
more time?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Go ahead here?
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Moving on to college football. I mean, we've seen a
lot of scandals in college football. We've seen a lot
of coaches fired for different reasons, but I mean this.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Might take the cake.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Man, where is your mind at when you see the
picture of Sharon Moore in a basically solitary confinement right
now with his hands behind.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Well, it's so appalling. There is a moral dimension to
the being a head coach. I just think back when
I was twenty years old starting for the Huskies and
the level of respect I had for Don James was immeasurable.
Sharon wore. What a stunning lapse in character for this man.
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I mean, look, it's the forbidden fruit. You know, you
can't dip your ink in. You know you're penning the
company inc.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
We all know this.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And I don't know what high cost, high price, high
class hookers cost, but they sure as hell don't cost
what Sharon Maer just cost himself financially. And then when
you considered a far more important cost, here's a man
who has three daughters, all under the age of seven.
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Google is still going to be around when they're fourteen
and seventeen and twenty seven and thirty. Like the rest
of their lives, They're going to know exactly what their
father did and for him to have have taken the
University of Michigan. If you said to me, you have
to take a piece of paper right a line right
down the middle, and you say, Okay, on one side
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is academic rating, and then the other side is is
athletic accomplishments, heavily weighted towards football first and men's basketball second.
I would argue submit to you the University of Michigan
in that calculus is the number one institution in the country.
They have won more games than any school in the
history of college football. They are a premier academic institution.
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Google it. I think most people know this. Michigan. You
did this at You had the head coaching job at Michigan,
and you did this.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Look, I certainly there's an empathy that I have for
the choice that he made. But he did this all himself,
and he knew, he knew the consequences. He didn't he
didn't value the unbelievable position that he was in and
the responsibility they had. I think it's just a stunning
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failure of of personal character.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, and they literally hundreds, if not thousand people that
will be impacted by this, right, I mean, uh, you know,
the the domino effect of all the coaches and staffers,
family members that will have to move when a new
team or new coach takes over. And it's it's insane
the impact this is going to have on people. And
now you know, Jetfish's name is on some lists. A
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lot of lists have him as the favorite to be
the new coach at Michigan. A lot of people are
mentioning Kaitlin de Bore. I mean, you tell me, man, what.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
What do you think? Who do you think fills that gig?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Well, I'm not in any position to report anything. You
leave that to the chefters of the world. But I
do find credible the reports that that the Jetfish has,
you know, had interests in Florida, has interest in Michigan.
I think if Michigan wanted him and offered him the job,
but I think he'd take it. Again, I don't, I don't.
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I don't have anything other than just kind of, you know,
a hunch and kind of based on kind of what
you hear and and and so here let.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Me jump in for a quick second.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Do you think though, because Dick and I have discussed,
I think you would I agreed Dick that Michigan would
have to go pretty far down their list before they
would offer that job to Jed.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Do you believe that?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, I mean you just kind of, you know, put
your ear to the railroad and see, Okay, who are
the ones that all these schools are looking at. I mean,
first of all, there's already been a lot of hirings,
you know, so it's kind of like you know the
table at Nordstrom's where you know, the all the sweaters
are all messed up because everything's been picked over, and
the coaching candidates for this year, this cycle of vacancies,
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they've been picked over, and yet I still think, you know,
Jed's kind of at the bottom of the sweater pile
for most of these teams. Not that he wants to be,
but yeah, I think at this point it would surprise me.
But look, he had success to some degree as an
offensive coach at Michigan, and and I'm sure that there
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are some at Michigan that would like to see him,
you know, given his accomplishments. What he did at Arizona
was pretty impressive. What he's done at Washington, I would
say he's more or less on track. He's you know,
but he's not thrust to the top of these lists
because when people do a little digging, they say, well,
you haven't really done it against the quality teams, and
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until we see that, we're not going to get excited
about you.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Well as Kaylan at the top of the sweater list,
because I can't honestly, I can't think of a better
fit in college football right now than Kailin de Boor
from Michigan.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I certainly would think so. And of course he's from
that general region of the country, and so yeah, I
would think that all the reports that we've read that
KDB is the number one target, sure, and I think
his buyout is yeah, right, is five six million? You know,
when we're talking about you know, the sums of money
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that LSU has swallowed in Texas, A and M and
some of these other schools, that that just seems like pennies, right,
So yeah, I would think that that would be something
you know, Michigan would love to at least make Kaylen
de Bor turn you down, right.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah, yeah, you fired up for the LA ball tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Uh not really, not really. I mean we've seen Washington
against Boise State. I don't you know, I think that
Bulls have lost even more of their relevance with the
growth of the playoffs. You know, I think it's it's
it's good practice for the twenty twenty sixth season. That's
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about all I'll say. You know, gone are the days
where the players are really impressed by the swag bag
because that was kind of the only compensation you got, right,
you know, Now they're being compensated in ways that are
more commensate to what they're bringing to the institutions. So
I think that this just kind of I bet you
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one thing the players. The thing they like about this
is the date because they can just get this over
with and then they have their holidays, as opposed to
dragging things out and having to practice all the way through.
You know, if you played, like say January second or
January third, in some bowl like this, and you're still
on the company time through Christmas and New Year's I
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think the players would say, eh, you know, can't we
play this thing earlier? Well, guess what, the husky gets
played earlier. I think that's good for the players. They
might not say it publicly, but I bet that's the
aggregate refrain and sentiment among the team.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
So does the outcome of the bowl game move you
at all regarding the level of success that this season had,
the trajectory of the program, or is it just literally
a nothing burger?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
No, No, Well, I think you have more to lose
than the game. If you lose the Boise State, I
think that's a worse look than beating them, so in
that sense, right, but you know, the next step is
now the offense. Now, the defense has been fantastic, way
better than I would have thought. But offensively, and Jetfish
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is the play caller and Demon Williams is the most
high profile guy. They together they literally I'm not going
to go through the numbers again, but I can support
with numbers. I can support this claim. Jetfish in his
offense and Demond Williams the quarterback, they drop more in
their performance versus the lower defenses and then playing the
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better defenses the bottom twenty of which the five wins
in conference were against bottom twenty defenses in Power four
versus the four losses which we're all in top twenty five.
When you run those numbers, Washington, they their performance suffers
more than any other team in Power four, And so
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that really gets my attention. Is so it's like, hey,
until we see you do it against good teams. You know,
the idea that you throw with a minute and a
half to go against the Cougars and you throw the
ball forty five yards down the field and get a touchdown,
and then you want to bark about the stats at
the end of the year, loh or this and that
in the country and this and no, no, no, no, no, let's
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where are you against the good teams and and so yeah,
I don't, I don't. I don't think Boise State's gonna
move me. Yeah, yeah, unless they lose it. That that
would that would that would move me. It's like, what
the hell just happen?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Great stuff, man, We will talk next week, buddy. Enjoy
the weekend, Enjoy the game tomorrow. All right, we'll talk
humber Down.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
You're telling with us.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
By the way, you know, the Big ten was talking
about a private equity deal a few weeks ago. Yeah,
that kind of fell apart, right, sounds like the Big
twelve is doing it a private equity deal that it's
going to put five hundred million dollars into the conference.
So you saw Utah struck a deal the other day
with a private equity for what the Big ten was
talking about doing the Big twelve. Apparently is now going
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to do. This is gonna happen to everybody. Everyone's gonna
start bringing in private partners. And I think, Frankly, Dick,
I think it's the precursor to college football going totally
away from the NCAA. Yes, and do we You and
I waking up one day and actually seeing football players
that play for Washington that don't go to Washington.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now with you, here's Safie and Dig.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
All right, normally we have this guy on Monday for
a little more at four, but how about even more
at four on a Friday afternoon. Humelan joining us right
now on the radio station, Hue, how are you?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Palt's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm doing great, Good to be with you. What's happening?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Well, there's a lot going on, dude.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
The Sharon Moore story just getting sadder and sadder by
the second. This Kyle Whittingham story stepping down after twenty
one years as the Utah head coach. The Colts might
be starting a forty four year old grandpa on Sunday,
literally a grandpa against the Seahawks. I mean, I don't
know what's got your being a bonnet right now?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Man?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Tell us, well, I think among those things. You know,
just looking at Philip Rivers, in looking at all of
the history of the NFL. Now Rivers just turned forty
four on December eighth, right, So I said, well, okay,
all all starts by quarterbacks age forty three or above, Well,
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there's been sixty seven games that have been started by
a quarterback who's forty three or older. Of those sixty five,
the person is Tom Brady in fifty seven of them.
Steve de Bergh had one. He threw for one hundred
and seventeen yards and a forty three passer rating. Warren
Moon had one he threw for one hundred and thirty
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yards and a thirty eight passer rating, both of those losses.
By the way. Then Vinnie Testa Verdi had six and
he was two and four in those and average one
hundred and fifty nine yards passing and average just sixty
four pass rating. So now Brady had a lot of
really good starts in those. So if you're not Tom Brady, basically,
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if he has any good game, it's almost like he'll
be the second man in the history of planet Earth
to do it at his age, bucking extremely long odds.
And that's not even talking about the five year layoffs.
So I think all signs point towards a really difficult
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day for him. Now. The one thing two things to mention.
I do think that there's a galvanizing effect. I think
that the Colts they were really down on Monday with
Daniel Jones and the injury, and they thought, oh boy,
we're done. I think the old Man has probably infused
the based on reports I've seen and what have you
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comments from the Colts, I think the old Man has
infused them with some confidence that they may have for
a driver to this Sunday. It's the Seahawks obligation to
squelch that. And then the other part of it is
is the Colts actually have a really good array of
targets for any quarterback with with Ty Warren and Pittman
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and a couple other receivers and of course Jonathan Taylor.
So there's some dudes on there. That was an offense
that as of this Sunday morning was number one in
the NFL and points scored. So that's something that I
think Philip rivers. If he's going to drive some confidence,
it will be when he looks around at the guys
he's thrown to because there's some guys.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Now, Yeah, I agree with you that that's probably the
thought process to give him a little bit of hope.
It flies in the face of what Ryan Clark said
though this morning. He said it was quote incompetent and irresponsible.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
For the Colts to start Philip Rivers. How would you
respond to.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
That, Well, what does he say is the alternative? I mean,
I would not like to be Brett Rippan, who's the healthy,
you know, professional that's being overlooked on here. So I
think in that regard he has a point. I think
Ryan Clark is he's been a controversial guy for a
number of years. I don't know where the irresponsibility is.
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I heard the sound clip. I think he was alluding
to how old and how immobile Philip Rivers is. But
you know Tom Brady, you know, he makes the point
that sacks are more about the quarterback than any other aspect.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
To that point, in Tom Brady's last two years, the
quarterback in the NFL who had the lowest sack rate
was Tom Brady. The quarterback in both of those years
who had the highest sack rate was justin fields in
this era or any era, what however, you want to
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describe mobile quarterbacks and that group versus immobile quarterbacks. The
mobile quarterbacks always take more sacks, they take more chances
the immobile quarterbacks. As a rule, they know that they
don't have the legs to avoid sacks, and so they
have to be aware of what their checkdowns are, change
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the protections, get the ball out of their hand. They
never really think, oh, my legs are going to get
me out of this trouble. So that's not to say
that Philip Rivers isn't going to surrender a lot of
sacks a lot of hits. I mean he's going against
the team in the Seahawks that are number one in pressures,
number one in pressure percentage of forty four point two percent.
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Number one. This excuse me, this is since week six.
This is after Tampa Bay when they got Eamon Worry
and their guys back. This is week week six and beyond.
Number one in yards fewest yards per game, Number one
in defensive EPA, number one in percentage of plays with
five rushers that result in offensive negative EPA. Sorry that's
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reading word for word from the NFL staff portal. I
mean this is this, This defense here is you know,
a a a titanic force that he's going to have
to deal with.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
And I.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Don't see all signs. I can't. I can't close my
eyes and see Philip Rivers having any kind of successful
day off.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, well, can you close your eyes and seeing see
Riley Leonard having any success against the Hawks? I mean,
I guess the way, Well, the way we're talking here
is that we're expecting Rivers to start.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
The Colts have not said anything.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
They will not say anything until Sunday, which is smart
by them. Are you assuming, Hugh, that we're going to
see Philip Rivers start this game?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Well, I don't have anything other than what the reports
are saying, and they think, you know, people who cover
this are saying that it's leaning towards Philip Rivers. You know,
Riley Leonard has a NAMCL. I've had an mcluh. There's
grade one, two and three. I haven't heard or has
it been disclosed whether it's a grade one, which is
my grade three, which is severe. I had a Grade
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two something in between, and and so I don't know.
I think that if if Riley Leonard were healthy, I
think he'd be the starter. Brett Rippon is going to
be the backup if Riley Leonard is is not playing.
So yeah, I think I guess I would say I'll
be surprised if I don't see Philip Rivers, because that's
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the way the reports have suggested.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Is this an indictment on the depth of the quarterback
position in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well, I think that you know, this all transpired after
the trading deadline, right, and so I think we have
a totally different situation. I think what we have here is,
you know, Brett Rippon, for whatever reason, he has not impressed.
They took a gamble. I mean, think about this, if
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if we see Philip Rivers. Remember now this is Anthony Richardson.
You know, he's on a rookie contract, but he was
the fourth overall pick, and so the the competition was
Daniel Jones versus Anthony Richardson. Well, Anthony Richardson, you know,
evidently can't handle the rubber band without you know, blinding himself.
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So so he's out of contention. Riley Leonard has the
mc SO at best, Philip Rivers is the fourth string
quarterback right and and because of his familiarity with the
Shane Stike in offense, I believe it was some six
years that Rivers played in that offense, that that's the
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reason why it's him above all others that are being
thrust into this situation. But I think you'd see a
lot of desperate teams if they're down to their fourth
quarterback after the trade deadline.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, nobody's going to expect any depth at number four
for sure. This is crazy where the bad luck that
Indianapolis has had. But let me ask you about the
injury work that came out the other day. Because Jalen
Sundale Hugh back full participant in practice, I mean just
getting him back. I'm assuming that you think he's a
better option than big Olu, But how much of an
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upgrade is it if Jalen Sundale can actually go in
this game.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Well, he's certainly a better athlete. I think he's a
better center. I think that he's a smart guy. I
don't want to get over my skis and make proclamations
about the communication and how the unit plays better because
of his communication, But I think it's a fair inference
when you look at how they played it as a group.
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So yeah, I think he was a reason there was
a reason why he was the starter, and if you
get him back, you want him back. Now, he still
has the deficiency that he's he's a little bit weak
in terms of when he has to encounter bull rushes.
His outright strength is his biggest minus. But the athleticism
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pieces is deaf only an upgrade and so if he's
in there, I think that you're gonna have a better center.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Hugh Devin Witherspoon is the highest rated PFF player in
the entire NFL this past week, and he's the highest
defensive back on the season at a ninety point eight. Now,
he hasn't played in all the games, but when he
has played, has he played like an All pro in
your mind?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Like PFF describes him.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, I wouldn't run from that. I think that, you know,
he's played much more outside and I think that that's smart.
You know, he while he's got the feistiness, I mean,
he you know, he's like I've got a My wife
likes French bulldogs and it turns out they're a really
cool breath. But our little frenchie man, he hasn't looked
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in the mirror. You know, he thinks he's a Rottwiler
and and you know that's his mentality. And he's the
alpha dog over the our other dog who's much bigger
than him. And so I think that Witherspoon, you know,
he has not checked the scale. He doesn't know he's
one hundred and eighty one pounds. He throws his body
around like he's two twenty. Well, that's the exact weight
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that Emon Worry was at the combine. So you're picking
up thirty nine pounds by having even Worry. I'm just
going combine weights thirty nine pounds by uman Worry as
your Nicol sam as opposed to to Witherspoon. So you
push Witherspoon out outside. There's nothing he can't do. He's
got the athleticism, he's got the temperament. There's you know,
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his his feistiness shows up on outside, you know, bubble screens,
toss plays, stretch plays, like he's gonna come up and
he's gonna throw his body around. So but then he
can cover. You know, Dave wasn't in a week or
two ago. You get he said, man, I don't remember
Witherspoon making any plays. And we're like, yeah, that's a
good thing. Right out of sight, out of mind.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
If if a cry said that, I never said that.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I said that about Witherspoon, Well we're talking spoon man.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Whatever it was, Well, that's weird. You know, maybe maybe
I manufactured it. In my mind. I thought we were
I thought we were both agreen that Witherspoon, that that
he had a quiet game, and that that was a
good thing.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
You and I talked, You and I last week talked
about Woollen and said that.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah. Yeah, maybe I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
You know what, I say. A lot of things here
that I forget. So it's certainly a chance that I'm
older than Philip Rivers. So yeah, I get it, man,
I mean I don't. I don't remember the last question
I asked you for crying out loud versus what I
said a week ago on the radio show.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
But you just go with it. You said it.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, we agreed.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, dude, I said what what I did say.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I know this a couple of days ago, is that
I think that Seahawks fans should be talking about winning
a Lombardi now, not next year, not in two years,
for now. I think in Mike McDonald's second year, people
should be talking about the Seahawks winning a title?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Why wait? Right? I mean sometimes you got to go
just just put on the gas, no brakes, and and uh,
I think that the NFL is right. I mean, who's
the one team if it's not Seattle. You know, I
can look at Vegas odds just like you can.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You know, I guess the Rams, the Eagles if they
ever turn things around. Are the Patriots the best team
in the AFC? I don't know who's the best team
in the AFC, but sure I think that it's all
about just peaking. And I do think that there's issues
with the offensive line that are ultimately their biggest challenge
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to deal with that. But you still got another month
to to try and get your house in order in
that regard, and and of course a week from last
night is going to be, you know, the big test.
But but yeah, I agree with that sentiment absolutely. There's
no reason to not say why not us.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I saw a price tag attached to Ken Walker for
the first time today, and the estimate was four years
between nine and ten dollars per year. If the Seahawks
wanted to do that, I can tell what Softy's response
to that is, get it what do you think you.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, I'm probably probably out on that, and it's not
because I am not a believer in his talent and
that I'm not a believer that he's by far the
most skilled running back that's been on the roster for
the last few ever since he's been on the team. Really,
I don't think that they've used him exactly the way
I would have liked to have seen him use now
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if they were load managing and managing rather because of
his ankle, I'll take that fact into consideration, but I
think that they've just kind of distributed the load too
much to warrant that type of price. And of course
he's getting older, and you don't, you know, sell your
truck while it's still running, right, And I think with
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running backs they can fall off hard. So I've probably
would be against it, But I sure do admire his talent.
When you see him just do things that he often
does by the way, you know, you look and just
say on a pretty regular basis, you go, there's nobody
on the Seahawks you can do that, right, And it
may only be a one or two yard game, but
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he didn't have a two yard loss, and you're just saying, whoa,
that's kind of breathtaking.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, I just feel huge, not interrupted, But I want
to get this before the break what you just said.
We got like one minute here about how the Hawks
aren't using him properly, and I totally agree with that.
It just seems like every coordinator they've got, they're not
able to figure it out, right, Like they kind of
weren't able to figure it out with Dk Metcalf.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
But DK's gone.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
And I just look at Kenny Walker and I see
a guy that should be catching.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Fifty balls a year out of the backfield for the Hawks.
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, I don't get down. I think that he's the
better runner. I mean, you look at his explosive rate.
It's far higher. So it's just kind of rolling dice
and the chance that it comes up with a big
play is far higher. And and so now you're gonna
let him walk and then all of a sudden you're
gonna say to me, well, how do you feel about
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the starting tailback?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Right?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
You know is and and uh you know, to me,
Zach Charbonney, if he's your your starting tailback, that's that
that that thrust into a a primary like you know,
mandatory upgrade position in the offseason.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, well you can argue they need an upgrade anyway. Right,
if they're not going to be able to figure out Canaine,
then they might want to go in the draft and
get somebody else anyway.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Hugh, hang on, we got more coming up. We want
to get to.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
We got to get your thoughts on the Sharon Moore
situation obviously at Michigan. Uh that vacancy, Jed's potential candidacy,
Klein de bores potential candidacy.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
All that and more with Hugh Mellan.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
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Speaker 4 (17:06):
Three point three FL. I'll want to jump right into it.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Uh here, we just had a little bit of a
debate off the air based on the Devin Witherspoon thing.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
It just kind of popped into my brain.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I was looking at the twenty twenty three draft and
I'm just curious if you can go back and do
it all over again two years ago, who would you
rather have on the Seahawks. He's John Robinson or Devin Witherspoon.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I think I'll still be wrestling with that question twenty
four hours from now. I the reason I I just
don't want to close my eyes and see a team
without Witherspoon, not just because of how he plays, but
I think that his competitive nature is so infectious, and
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so I just it's like a non starter for me.
But then Bijon Robinson, I think is the best running
back in football, and I can't imagine how much better
they'd be with the best running back in football. But
I don't think they've used Kenneth Walker, who's the top
five potential talent, the same way. I don't know. I
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don't know. I'll give you the worst answering radio I hack.
My strongest take is you shouldn't have a strong take
on that one, because there's you should be really close
either way.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
What do you think about it? We can chew on
it next writing. All right, how's that wen? We have
more time?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Go ahead here?
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Moving on to college football. I mean, we've seen a
lot of scandals in college football. We've seen a lot
of coaches fired for different reasons, but I mean this.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Might take the cake.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Man, where is your mind at when you see the
picture of Sharon Moore in a basically solitary confinement right
now with his hands behind.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Well, it's so appalling. There is a moral dimension to
the being a head coach. I just think back when
I was twenty years old starting for the Huskies and
the level of respect I had for Don James was immeasurable.
Sharon wore. What a stunning lapse in character for this man.
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I mean, look, it's the forbidden fruit. You know, you
can't dip your ink in. You know you're penning the
company inc.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
We all know this.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And I don't know what high cost, high price, high
class hookers cost, but they sure as hell don't cost
what Sharon Maer just cost himself financially. And then when
you considered a far more important cost, here's a man
who has three daughters, all under the age of seven.
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Google is still going to be around when they're fourteen
and seventeen and twenty seven and thirty. Like the rest
of their lives, They're going to know exactly what their
father did and for him to have have taken the
University of Michigan. If you said to me, you have
to take a piece of paper right a line right
down the middle, and you say, Okay, on one side
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is academic rating, and then the other side is is
athletic accomplishments, heavily weighted towards football first and men's basketball second.
I would argue submit to you the University of Michigan
in that calculus is the number one institution in the country.
They have won more games than any school in the
history of college football. They are a premier academic institution.
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Google it. I think most people know this. Michigan. You
did this at You had the head coaching job at Michigan,
and you did this.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Look, I certainly there's an empathy that I have for
the choice that he made. But he did this all himself,
and he knew, he knew the consequences. He didn't he
didn't value the unbelievable position that he was in and
the responsibility they had. I think it's just a stunning
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failure of of personal character.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, and they literally hundreds, if not thousand people that
will be impacted by this, right, I mean, uh, you know,
the the domino effect of all the coaches and staffers,
family members that will have to move when a new
team or new coach takes over. And it's it's insane
the impact this is going to have on people. And
now you know, Jetfish's name is on some lists. A
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lot of lists have him as the favorite to be
the new coach at Michigan. A lot of people are
mentioning Kaitlin de Bore. I mean, you tell me, man, what.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
What do you think? Who do you think fills that gig?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Well, I'm not in any position to report anything. You
leave that to the chefters of the world. But I
do find credible the reports that that the Jetfish has,
you know, had interests in Florida, has interest in Michigan.
I think if Michigan wanted him and offered him the job,
but I think he'd take it. Again, I don't, I don't.
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I don't have anything other than just kind of, you know,
a hunch and kind of based on kind of what
you hear and and and so here let.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Me jump in for a quick second.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Do you think though, because Dick and I have discussed,
I think you would I agreed Dick that Michigan would
have to go pretty far down their list before they
would offer that job to Jed.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Do you believe that?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, I mean you just kind of, you know, put
your ear to the railroad and see, Okay, who are
the ones that all these schools are looking at. I mean,
first of all, there's already been a lot of hirings,
you know, so it's kind of like you know the
table at Nordstrom's where you know, the all the sweaters
are all messed up because everything's been picked over, and
the coaching candidates for this year, this cycle of vacancies,
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they've been picked over, and yet I still think, you know,
Jed's kind of at the bottom of the sweater pile
for most of these teams. Not that he wants to be,
but yeah, I think at this point it would surprise me.
But look, he had success to some degree as an
offensive coach at Michigan, and and I'm sure that there
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are some at Michigan that would like to see him,
you know, given his accomplishments. What he did at Arizona
was pretty impressive. What he's done at Washington, I would
say he's more or less on track. He's you know,
but he's not thrust to the top of these lists
because when people do a little digging, they say, well,
you haven't really done it against the quality teams, and
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until we see that, we're not going to get excited
about you.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Well as Kaylan at the top of the sweater list,
because I can't honestly, I can't think of a better
fit in college football right now than Kailin de Boor
from Michigan.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I certainly would think so. And of course he's from
that general region of the country, and so yeah, I
would think that all the reports that we've read that
KDB is the number one target, sure, and I think
his buyout is yeah, right, is five six million? You know,
when we're talking about you know, the sums of money
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that LSU has swallowed in Texas, A and M and
some of these other schools, that that just seems like pennies, right,
So yeah, I would think that that would be something
you know, Michigan would love to at least make Kaylen
de Bor turn you down, right.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah, yeah, you fired up for the LA ball tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Uh not really, not really. I mean we've seen Washington
against Boise State. I don't you know, I think that
Bulls have lost even more of their relevance with the
growth of the playoffs. You know, I think it's it's
it's good practice for the twenty twenty sixth season. That's
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about all I'll say. You know, gone are the days
where the players are really impressed by the swag bag
because that was kind of the only compensation you got, right,
you know, Now they're being compensated in ways that are
more commensate to what they're bringing to the institutions. So
I think that this just kind of I bet you
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one thing the players. The thing they like about this
is the date because they can just get this over
with and then they have their holidays, as opposed to
dragging things out and having to practice all the way through.
You know, if you played, like say January second or
January third, in some bowl like this, and you're still
on the company time through Christmas and New Year's I
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think the players would say, eh, you know, can't we
play this thing earlier? Well, guess what, the husky gets
played earlier. I think that's good for the players. They
might not say it publicly, but I bet that's the
aggregate refrain and sentiment among the team.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
So does the outcome of the bowl game move you
at all regarding the level of success that this season had,
the trajectory of the program, or is it just literally
a nothing burger?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
No, No, Well, I think you have more to lose
than the game. If you lose the Boise State, I
think that's a worse look than beating them, so in
that sense, right, but you know, the next step is
now the offense. Now, the defense has been fantastic, way
better than I would have thought. But offensively, and Jetfish
(26:11):
is the play caller and Demon Williams is the most
high profile guy. They together they literally I'm not going
to go through the numbers again, but I can support
with numbers. I can support this claim. Jetfish in his
offense and Demond Williams the quarterback, they drop more in
their performance versus the lower defenses and then playing the
(26:37):
better defenses the bottom twenty of which the five wins
in conference were against bottom twenty defenses in Power four
versus the four losses which we're all in top twenty five.
When you run those numbers, Washington, they their performance suffers
more than any other team in Power four, And so
(26:59):
that really gets my attention. Is so it's like, hey,
until we see you do it against good teams. You know,
the idea that you throw with a minute and a
half to go against the Cougars and you throw the
ball forty five yards down the field and get a touchdown,
and then you want to bark about the stats at
the end of the year, loh or this and that
in the country and this and no, no, no, no, no, let's
(27:20):
where are you against the good teams and and so yeah,
I don't, I don't. I don't think Boise State's gonna
move me. Yeah, yeah, unless they lose it. That that
would that would that would move me. It's like, what
the hell just happen?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Great stuff, man, We will talk next week, buddy. Enjoy
the weekend, Enjoy the game tomorrow. All right, we'll talk
humber Down.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
You're telling with us.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
By the way, you know, the Big ten was talking
about a private equity deal a few weeks ago. Yeah,
that kind of fell apart, right, sounds like the Big
twelve is doing it a private equity deal that it's
going to put five hundred million dollars into the conference.
So you saw Utah struck a deal the other day
with a private equity for what the Big ten was
talking about doing the Big twelve. Apparently is now going
(28:04):
to do. This is gonna happen to everybody. Everyone's gonna
start bringing in private partners. And I think, Frankly, Dick,
I think it's the precursor to college football going totally
away from the NCAA. Yes, and do we You and
I waking up one day and actually seeing football players
that play for Washington that don't go to Washington.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Watch it happen. I'm telling you
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