December 13, 2024 • 38 mins
In the first hour, Dick Fain and Hugh Millen preview Sunday’s big game between the Seahawks and Packers in Primetime, discuss what could be the end of the 49ers era after a terrible loss to the Rams on Thursday night, then they get some Fun w/ Audio.
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No question about it? In early December.
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So Jackson, we got a little sunshine to offer people today, right.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
We do across this whole first two hours. We have
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We're gonna do.
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We got a little carrot. Here is Hugh beat Reed
Love Millen joints us Hi, Hugh, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
How are you doing good?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
We got a little carrot we got we got people
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And here's what we're going to do based upon what
Hugh evaluates later on in the show. And we're going
to do the evaluation in the five o'clock segment based
upon what Hugh evaluates as demand Williams grade numerical grade
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the contest once again. At five o'clock, we're going to
do a Demond Williams discussion and break down how he
did against Oregon. Hugh is going to do at the
end a numeracle grade between zero and one hundred. Zero
is like the worst quarterback performance Hugh has ever seen
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in his life at any level, right whereas one hundred
is I don't know, Joe Montana against the Chargers in
the Super Bowl or what I mean, whatever, whatever, you're
the greatest performances is whatever demand William's number that Hugh
gives him.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So we want you to do so they're gonna text
in beginning right.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Now, Jackson, make this real simple, send the number and
your name, the number one to one hundred and your
name and uh it listen as you Dick said, closest
to the pin. But if you nail it, the first
person to nail it wins the pair.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Oh so it's good to get the text in right now.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Now, first person to nail it, get the text in
right now, because if you nail the number.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Right, A couple of things, yes, a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
First of all, the forty nine Ers against the Chargers
in the Super Bowl never exists.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Steve Young, Right, yeah, okay, sorry, but.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
But we all understood what you.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Met, right.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
But I just was Steve, that was actually, you know what,
since its that Christmas season, I'm gonna just quickly You're
totally unaware that I'm about to do this, so is Jackson.
I gotta say, you're as good as anybody I've heard
on this station at promoting your spots. Like every time
I hear a commercial, I'm dying to get my house,
my ducks clean, and the carpet clean.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Help should I send that to help one? To make
sure they know that I've convinced you, Braid, I'm just
convince that you turn into Howard hughesing like thirty seconds
good stuff. But but but but two things.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
So, so the median then is basically fifty fifty would
be just your half of all the games you've seen.
We've seen half of every football game you've ever seen.
The quarterback has played below below fit.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yes, that's correct, right, So just an average, an average performance.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
And then the other thing and then on spot real quick,
this is very important. Are we grading just great looking
at a quarterback, a big ten quarterback, or or are
we grading with the the asterisk that we're looking at
a true fresh.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
No, we're just greating the quarterback performance.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Okay, so we're we're just quarterbacks performing quarterback, a big
ten quarter that's in a big ten games against the
number one is that is exactly we can take that
into account against the number one team.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Against the number one team on the road. I mean,
I just think it's it's greating his performance. I mean,
and I don't think you really need need to take
the opponent into consideration.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
The job that he's just. The opponent's definitely part of it.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Like listen, he's performing the way he is because stor
By the way, I like the strategy of some certain
people who are already texting in they're going point fives,
sort of like Gabe and to Corey and to a
few others who are giving point fives.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Interesting, interesting strategy, but now they're probably not gonna nail
it right on the money can.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Trying to try a little tiny So we'll talk.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
We'll talk Huskies later at five o'clock.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I want to get into this big game on Sunday
with the with the Seahawks and the Packers. You and
I will have the postgame show beginning right around eight
thirty to ten on Sunday night. Hopefully we're talking about
a Seahawk victory. And I've just been thinking about how
good this team is. And I was responding to a
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tweet yesterday. There was a tweet to Safti and me
that said, hey, Softian Dick, It's gonna be Seahawks Rams
for the division, isn't it. And I kind of responded
with an unfortunately, yes, I mean I kind of I kind.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Of didn't want that scenario to take place.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I wanted the Rams to lose yesterday, so potentially we
wouldn't have the situation where it would have to come
down to that, to that game.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It looks like it probably will come down.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
We'll talk a little bit about how it could or
could not and in just a few moments and then
someone else responded to this to this text thread or
this tweet thread that was going on, and they responded
with this. They said, the Hawks, as they're playing right now,
would dog walk the Rams?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That is? That was his response, And I'm like, really
would they?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Because part of the reason the Hawks are playing like
they are are right now and winning four games in
a row is because simply of who they are playing.
And they played on the seventeenth of November what we
have seen to be a underwhelming San Francisco forty nine
Ers team, and they barely won that game by three.
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Then they played what has clearly become a pretty underwhelming
Arizona Cardinals team, and then they played a Jets game
that was just painful on the eyes to watch for
four quarters, and they ended up.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Winning that game.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
And then they put together a very solid four quarters
of football, the most in my opinion, the most solid
four quarters of football all season long, in that win
against Arizona. But as you pointed out earlier in the
week on our show and on different shows, that that
Arizona team isn't really much to write home about, particularly
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in the front seven. So, Hugh, big picture, how good
a team is this? And would this team quote unquote
really walk all over with the Rams the way.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
They're playing right now, Well, you watch the Rams from
a week ago.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
They beat Buffalo.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
If they if they beat Buffalo at home, they can
beat anybody. In my opinion, I think that they are
kind of finding themselves offensively. They got a running back
that's running hard, you know, with Pooka Nakua out there.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I mean he's a magical catch every single week. He
is unbelieved.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Yeah, and paired with with with Cooper Cup. You know,
Stafford Is is a guy that can play at a
very high ceiling, extremely high ceiling with his knowledge. He
still has a live arm, moves around Okay. I mean
you know, just in the the last you know, five games,
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if you just say, all right, where is he in
terms of his touchdown interception rate is ten? That's fourth
over the last the last five weeks. You know, he's
just they're just really on on track. And you saw
him last night. What they're capable of doing defensively. I
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think that Buffalo game seem to have have really galvanized.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Them and.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Year and won a playoff game.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Yeah, I think they're they're playing with a lot of
zest and so uh yeah, I don't think they walk
them down. As for Seattle, I think you know, they've
been a volatile team. I think they're every every week
since the bye, starting with the Ram game, since that
Buffalo game, the Seahawks, if you take the defense points allowed,
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the Seahawks are number one in the NFL and uh
and and if you say take out that touchdown they
give up in the overtime, and you just filter for
quarters one through four, they're number one in the next
closest is full two points on lower. So the gap
between one and two is greater in the gap between
two and seven, And so the defense has that's been
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legit over these five games, and now they're gonna get tested. Yeah,
Green Bays got a former ofa ball offense obviously, Minnesota.
You know, if they can close this thing out, Stafford,
of course, Chicago's probably challenged offensively, but if they can
close this thing out, it'll be a pretty remarkable mirroring
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defensively of what and we've been talking about it all season,
what happened in twenty twenty two with Mike McDonald and
those Ravens in his first year there where literally I'm
down to the week, Dick. You know, from weeks nine
and beyond where the Ravens really started to go because
they had had a poor game in Week eight, just
like Seattle had a poor game in Week eight against Buffalo.
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So we'll see how this plays out. But I don't
think I don't think they can walk down the Ram.
I think the Rams are really fire. I think they
could beat the Rams sure, sure in an epic game
which is liable to be for the division. And you
know what I had thought going into this this week
was hope, hopefully the RAM game would be irrelevant, that
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somehow they could they could navigate these next few weeks
and the RAM game would be irrelevant. Well, if you
if you just make a couple of assumption, a few assumption,
let's say, because I don't want to have to be
crossing my fingers about what happens with the RAM. So
they only have two games left prior to the finale
and seattls three, right, And so if you say that
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the Rams are going to go to and O because
they're going to be Arizona six win, six and seven
Arizona team, and they're gonna be what a four win,
three win JET team? Yes, because you have to assume that,
then what does Seattle have to do.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
So there, it's almost going to be impossible.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
They'd have to be two games clear of the Rams
going into that final game for that game to be irrelevant, right,
That is unlikely to happen. Seattle have to go three
and oh, and the Rams would have to either go
go one on one or see, I'll have to go
too and one and the Rams they.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Have to go in too.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Okay, So that's that's off the table for me. Yeah,
there's an infinite testiment chance that can happen. What I'm
really focused on is, Okay, I can see this being
a championship game, last game of the year for the
NFC West. Probably not going to be able to get
a wild card. That's a whole nother conversation. But all
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the marbles is coming down to that game. But you
got to make sure from a Seattle perspective that that'll
be enough. Like, all we have to do is beat
the Rams and we're the NFC West champs in that game.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
But that's not necessarily a situation, right. You pointed that
out on the Morning show today.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
If you lose to Minnesota in Green Bay, but you
beat Chicago then and then you beat the Rams. Then
both teams, both you and the Rams, will be you know,
head to head. That's the first time breaker, you'll be
one on one. Second tiebreaker division, you'll both be four
and two. Two, third tiebreaker common opponents, you'll both be
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four and four. Next tiebreaker conference, you'll both be six
and six. Of course, the record you know you're at
both at ten and seven. Then it cuts down to
strength of victory dick where Seattle will lose that right
now at four nineteen, Seattle, the teams that Seattle's beat
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have forty four wins. The teams that the Rams have
beat have fifty one, primarily because they beat Buffalo and
Seattle didn't. But even you know, in the scenario I
just outlined where you lose to both Minnesota and Green Bay,
you don't get to pick up those wins. Those would
be quality wins and you would lose that even though
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you beat the Rams. So what's the net net of it?
To feel comfortable about this, You got to win either
this Sunday or you got to beat the Vikings next Sunday.
Otherwise you're hoping that the Rams kick one against either
the Cardinals or the Jets to make it possible for
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you to win even by beating the Rams. So these
these these next nine days are going to tell the
story for what that Ram game is going to signify.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Well, And to your point about the strength of schedule
and the strength of victory in particularly for the Seahawks,
if you just go back and look, and this is
I mean, I'm not just talking about the Seahawks. There's
a lot of teams that go to the playoffs that
rack up nine to ten victories just beating up on
the cream puffs of the NFL. So this isn't unique
to the Seahawks. But just look at who they beat
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and when they played these teams. I mean, they played
bon Knicks at his worst point of the season because
it was his first start ever and bon Knicks has
had a very very good year, but Bo Nicks wasn't
Bow Knicks on September the eighth, and they won that
game by six. They needed a block field goal to
beat New England in New England.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
New England's a three win foot.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
They beat Miami with Skyler Thompson not to a tongue
of Biloa.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
They had a complete game against.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Atlanta, but Atlanta then was a better team than what
we're seeing Atlanta now as losers of four in a row.
San Francisco, that was a team that probably was at
their height of debilitation injury wise. When the Seahawks beat them,
and they beat them by three, they did cool off
a hot Arizona team, and that I mean, I think
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that's probably their their third most impressive win of the year.
Then they looked awful against New York but found a
way to win that game, and then probably their most
impressive win was what they just did against Arizona. So
if your most impressive wins, your three most impressive wins
on the season are two against a six and seven
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Cardinal team and one against a six and seven Falcon team,
that's not a lot to write home about as far
as quality wins. That's why for me, this is a
show me game for the Seattle Seahawks on Sunday. This
to me, I equate it to like going up to
my kids room because.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Hugh love my kids. They're clean, they don't stink.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
But let me tell you, when I open up the
door to their room, I mean I can't walk from
the door to kiss them good night without stepping on
close books video game. I'm like just it's a freaking minefield, right,
And so what I felt like from the last last
week against Arizona was like, yeah, I know, it's a
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bad parenting.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
There's no questions bad parenting. And I opened up the
door and I was like, it's beautiful. Both kids' rooms
was beautiful. It was a complete game.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
The Seahawks pitched a complete game defensively, they pitched a
complete game offensively.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
And I'm like, oh my god. But you know what,
sometimes I open my kids rooms up, Hugh, and it
looks spotless.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Absolutely, But what rarely happens is when I open up
my kids rooms two days in a row and they're spotless, right.
And so I want to open up my kids room
on Sunday night football and I want to see two
spotless games in a row. Yeah, And I just don't
know if we'll see it against a team that would
be clearly the best football team that the Seahawks have
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not only beat this year, it is arguably, I mean,
right there with Detroit the best football team the Seahawks
have played this season.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Yeah, indeed. And by the way, the Rams also beat Minnesota.
So and so if you go too and one, then
in these you know, Beach Chicago and beat either Green
Bay or Minnesota, then then you're good. No matter what
happens with the Rams. Then that game, if you win,
you're the NFC West Champs. Okay, so so so in
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that regard, Yeah, I get it, we haven't seen the
impressive win.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
But I think that they are a remade defense. I
think you can.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Only really evaluate them post the Buffalo game because the
acquisition to Ernest Jones paired with an overhaul in your mindset.
Coming off the by it seemed like they just locked in.
It was just remarkable to me to watch the Buffalo
game that Monday morning and how they just they weren't
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closing gaps. They were getting gas to the inside and
the running gas to the outside, they weren't they weren't
communicating in zone coverage. I mean, they got thrashed in
every way. And then it seemed like all of a sudden,
you know, they got there. They're healthy. These are two
healthy football teams, get base getting better. They got a
tight end who's you know, Musgrave was just coming back.
But they got another young, great tight end, Romeo Dobbs
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one of their receivers. But but there for the most part,
with in Packerland talking about how they're they're relatively healthy.
They got some safeties banged up, but uh, Seattle getting
Nuosu back.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
This is as healthy as this.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Defense could ever expect to be us in December for
any team. They got everything they got him Jenkins was out.
I mean, you know, I'm in it just across the board.
I can't believe how healthy Witherspoon has remained when you
watch the tape and how he throws his body around,
and and so you know, obviously Leonard big cat, he's
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thirty years old playing like a twenty five year old.
I mean, you know, so there's a lot to like
about this defense. I'm loving just the test. I really
loving the test because because Jordan Love is one of
the ostensibly one of the real up and coming young quarterbacks.
He just has a knack for finding big plays. We'll
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get into some of the stats with him. But I
think your point is a fair one.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
When when we come back, I want to talk a
little bit about whether or not our arch rivals are
done and if the window has closed on the San
Francisco forty nine ers, and are they a team that
we are even going to have to worry about over
the next year or two.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
We'll do that next on ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
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Speaker 4 (20:16):
You know, if it wasn't for the fact that we
needed the forty nine ers to win last night to
help out the Seahawks chances of winning division, yesterday would
have just been absolutely perfect. The implosion of the hated
forty nine ers just playing out for a national.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
TV audience on Amazon.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
You have Brock Purty thrown into triple coverage in the
end zone for interception. You got Deebo Samuel who says,
I'm there's nothing wrong with me. I just need to
get the ball more. Dropping a just right in his
hands pass that may have ended up being a game
winning touchdown. I mean, there's a there is a there
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is a greater than zero percent chance that he catches
that makes it guy miss and ends up in the
end zone for a touchdown in the late stage of
the fourth quarter in that game. And then you've got
just the coup dei grad to top it all off,
You've got San Francisco linebacker Devondre Campbell quitting on his
football team for all to see in the third quarter,
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walking to the walking to the tunnel.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
And here's head coach Kyle Shanahan after on that happened
with Defondra Campbell. He didn't play it and he went
into the locker room at some point.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Yeah, he didn't said he didn't want to play today.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Play today?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, the coaching.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
Staff, he didn't. Whant I asked him why didn't want
to go in during the game or before that was
in the third quarter.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Does that ever happened to you where a player said
they didn't want to play in a game?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
No, he got demoted for this game. He was not
going to play.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
No, he was gonna he was going to go in
when Drake came out. We'll figure out something, but I
don't know that right now.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Did he give you any reason why he didn't want
to play today?
Speaker 4 (21:58):
No?
Speaker 8 (21:59):
Did they create this, especially knowing that at this point
in the season, with the typer season that this has
started out to be, you kind of need as much
camaraderie as possible to be successful.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
When someone says that that you move on, you don't
deal with that anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
What do you need to do to ensure that you
don't lose the rest of the locker room.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
I haven't lost anybody. That's somebody who doesn't want to
play football. That's pretty simple. I don't think we need
to talk about him anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
I mean we had a similar situation back with Percy Harvin,
but we found that out after the fact, Hugh that
he didn't want to go in when Pete Carroll told
him to go in. He didn't just walk off the
field and into the tunnel on a Thursday night football game.
And what did you think when you saw that going on?
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And like, what do you think what would be going
through your mind if you were standing on the sidelines
or even in the football game and that happened during
a game you were playing.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
It a complete shock.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
I think that we could probably you know a lot
of topics that we talk about on the radio, where
you can you can find division and reasonable minds can differ.
I can't imagine anybody in this listening audience, you know,
you get a one hundred thousand fans, you're get to
every single one hundred thousand fans is going to be
in a complete agreement.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
It's totally unacceptable.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
I mean, when you think of that, you're playing in
a division game, a division rival. The forty nine ers
would say either the Seahawks or the Rams are their
their division rival, that it's kind of their last gasp
on national TV at home to make the playoffs. And
a guy because he's salty about playing time. I mean,
this is the type of thing that your entire legacy,
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whatever however, you're going to be remembered. There's some things,
you know, like Scottie Pippen and he says he doesn't
want to go in you know, he's still trying to
live that down after all these years. And he was
a lot bigger figure in the NBA than this guy.
So this is going to be how he's remembered. His
kids and his grandkids will be able to google this,
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and it's it's beyond shocking.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I assume he's been cut.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Not yet, not yet.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Well, you know, maybe there's some legalities. You know, you
got to check and make sure there was a mental
health issues or something like that.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I'll tell you what I played.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
You know, if you're a journeyman, you bounce around, you play,
you know, I once look look at an all time
Pro Bowl roster and I'd played with ninety three Pro
Bowlers and then and then I counted the Hall of Famers.
I think it was sixteen. Andre Tippett was one of
the Hall of famers I played with. He was a
seven degree black belt Patriots, A big, big, huge linebacker,
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like two hundred and fifty pounds linebacker, and unbelievable, he's
in the Hall of Fame. One of the baddest men
that have ever walked planet Earth. I remember one time,
I can't remember what the issue was, but I remember
standing up. This is talking to the entire team. If
you do blank, whatever blank was, I will put a
boot up your ass. And he Warren, he would, he
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would take on any lineman. And I'm telling you what,
if Andre Tippett was on that hands would have been thrown.
That dude would have gone like that would have been
like no, no, no, you you don't quit like that. I
think it's I think it's appalling, and I think it's
life altering for this guy because look at Antonio Brown.
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Antonio Brown hasn't come back when he walked out out
of that back.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Of the end zone.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
He has not seen the NFL field, So I don't
know what he thought the consequences were going to be,
but I'm certain what the con conquences will be and
they should be.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
And you know, we normally see this whenever a player
misbehaves whatever whatever reason, we normally see teammates rally to
their defense. You know, it's the fraternity. You know, I'm
gonna back you, You're gonna back me. You know, it'll
all be good. We're gonna we're gonna try to put water.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
On this fire. And boy, that is not what happened.
Here's George Kittle.
Speaker 8 (25:55):
Does that create distention or just believe or his connection
on the sideline.
Speaker 9 (26:03):
Not disbelieve or disconnection like as a team. That is
one person who just decided not to, you know, play
for his teammates. And no, I don't think that that
doesn't like does make our office look at should be
like wow, man, No, we're falling apart. It's more of
a or like the defense, Hey, we're falling apart. It's
more of a one person making a like Mooney said,
(26:27):
a selfish decision. And I'm with Mooney on that, And
I have never been around anybody that's ever done that.
And I hope I'm never run anybody that does that.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Again leads to a bigger picture. Now you a bigger question.
Are the San Francisco forty nine ers done? I mean,
have we seen now? Because we saw cracks, we talked
about the Remember Softie and Jackson I talking about this
in February. We're like, ooh, Brandon I, Yuke's holding out.
This is kind of weird, like should this really be
(26:54):
happening right now? And it vibes don't seem great with
this football team. And then you get Deebo Samuel coming
out in public and he's all pissed off. And then
brock Perty's kind of had a mey year, and you've
had all these injuries, and now there's rumors that, you know,
the Chicago might trade for Kyle Shanahan to come to Chicago.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Have we seen the run? Is it over for San Francisco?
In your opinion, well, it could be.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
I think it's hard to be up at the top,
keep knocking and the door doesn't open. Their their Super
Bowl disappointments. At some point you just maybe lose some
faith in the whole enterprise. Now they've got some issues.
They're the seventh oldest team in the NFL, and the
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second youngest team is the Rams. So if you want
to if you want to do yeah, well yeah, you
think of the Rams because they had to, you know,
they went all in on the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
And plus I got an old quarterbacks. You think you
just buy by virtue of that. You're like, oh, they
got an old football team.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
But on defense, I mean, they're just playing with a
bunch of young dudes.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
And and you know, credit their front office for the
acquisition of the talent. And that may may be one
of the reasons why the Rams are finishing strong because
there they are younger, and you know, it's kind of
like when you start golfing and your handicaps dropping and
you can't wait to get back out on the course
because you think, you know, at this rate, I'm going
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to be.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
A scratch and then I'll be a plus three.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Well you're not going to be a plus three and
and and you know, and all likely the Rams aren't
winning the Super Bowl, but they're improving so much and
they're young enough that they just feel like they're on
this trend. And so that would be a couple of
facts that would be part of your argument if you
wanted to make an argument. The other thing is is
the I know we're breaking, but Brock Purdy. There was
(28:44):
something in brock Purdy. Now I understand he's small handed guy,
the weather and it's going to maybe affect him more,
there was something about his body language that I had
never seen. And all I've ever said here on the
station in defense, I like brock Purdy as a person.
He seems like a humble guy. The whole uh mister
irrelevant story, I think is great. What I've been I've
(29:08):
been careful to use my words. What I've said is, look,
let me try and tell you what Kyle Shanahan sees
in brock Purty. Because he can't sit there and say well,
he's got no skill set. When and say that Kyle
Shanahan is one of the brightest minds in football and say, well,
he didn't want Trey Lance, who had all the skills
you could ever want, size, speed, arm strength, Sam Darnold
(29:29):
had all the traits you could ever want.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Uh Garoppolo for that matter, quick release like he'd hole.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
Shanahan has jettisoned a lot of quarterbacks and shows in
brock Purty. So I've I've just said, look the nuance,
the finer points of quarterbacking, namely anticipation, elite it to anticipation, accuracy,
what have you, and still driving the ball down the field.
He's not a checkdown Charlie, all of those things. They
have a big question about his salary, and you know,
(29:58):
with the age of these guys, what contracts have to
go do to part party? Do you, in fact, do
you throw fifty five million at perty or do you
try and talk him down to thirty five or forty million?
And then where's Purdy's confidence? Because there was something from
Brock Purdy last night I have never seen interesting interesting
And there was just a dour look on his face,
and his play matched it absolutely And that's the worst
(30:21):
I've ever seen him look.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
And if they decide to go with him, they're gonna
have the same problem.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
You just heard Jerry Jones yesterday say quote, I knew
we're going to be a challenge financially in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's gonna be really, really tight.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Well, if the Cowboys are tight because of Dak Prescott,
the Niners are gonna be tight because of Rock Perdy.
If they bay him anywhere close to what Dak Prescott
is making fun with audio. Coming up next on ninety
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Speaker 4 (31:00):
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Speaker 2 (31:05):
We begin with a little month or it's not Monday
Night football.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
We begin with a little NFL football And this is
an interesting story. A couple of days ago, we saw
a video being revealed from a card show in twenty
twenty three of Brett Farv and former Jets defensive end
Mark Gastno, and in the video, Gastono expresses his frustration
(31:30):
that Farv took a dive during the regular season finale
in two thousand and one to give Michael Strahan the
single season sack record, breaking the sack mark that Gastono
had set in nineteen eighty five. So yesterday on Boomer
and g O on WFAM, Boomer shares his blunt thoughts
(31:51):
on former Jets defensive end Mark Gastino.
Speaker 10 (31:53):
Mark Gaston is dealing with some medical issues, is he not?
I has to be right so I can't stand a guy.
The guy was a dirty, cheap shot in the son
of a bitch as far as I'm concerned. And you
know I know this because he was on the elevator
in the West and in Cincinnati telling my buddies, who
are there to watch the game, if you tell you
boy Boomer, to call an ambulance because he's going down.
(32:14):
And he was trying to cheap shot me the whole
damn game. So screw him, That's what I say.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah, well that was okay, cheap shot. I'm dirty cheap shot.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
And it's like your buddy out there in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Hall of Famer John Randall.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I mean, Hugh, it was very odd.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
I don't know if you saw this video, but it's
literally twenty two years after Brett Fav went down on
the last play of the game that Mark Gastino finds
him at a card show and just gets in his
face about it.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I mean, like, what was.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Your experience with Mark gaston Well, I never I was
on a team that played against him. I wasn't on
the field by the time I was playing for the Patriots,
he was out of the league. But I remember kind
of preparing for me a really good player, kind of
a douce. I'll tell you what if you YouTube that
that exchanged that he had.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Uh, it's one of the.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
It will be the most cringe worthy good word video
you will watch this month, and it will be It
will make a top ten for the year.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
No question about it. Hey, Hugh, did you hear that?
What's that?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Dick?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
The Warriors were eliminated from the NBA Cup on Wednesday
with the one point loss to the Rockets Takes in
part to a loose ball foul called with three seconds left,
leaving Steve Kerr outraged with the officials after the game.
Speaker 11 (33:34):
A loose ball foul on a jump ball situation eighty
feet from the basket with the game on the line.
I've never seen that.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
That is.
Speaker 11 (33:45):
Unconscionable. I don't I don't even understand what just happened.
The game was a complete wrestling match. You know they
didn't call anything. Steph Curry got hit on the elbow
playing his day on a jump shot, just.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Clubbed right on there. No call.
Speaker 11 (34:00):
So are you've established you're just not going to call
anything throughout the game.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
It's physical game.
Speaker 11 (34:05):
I'm going to call it a loose ball foul on
a jump ball situation with guys diving on the floor
with the game on the line.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
This is a.
Speaker 11 (34:15):
Billion dollar industry, get people's jobs on the line. I
am stunned a call that I don't think an elementary
school referee would have made, because that guy would have
had feel and said, you know what, I'm not going
to decide a game on a loose ball eighty feet
from the basket.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Well, and you can tell this NBA Cup is elevated
the at least the importance to the players and the coaches.
I mean, I think he would have been angry, Hugh
had it been any regular season game, but because it
knocked them out of this NBA Cup quarterfinals with an
opportunity to make a heck of a lot more money
for him and the players.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
But I don't know if you saw the play, but
I got to agree with Steve Kerr.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Usually I'm kind of like when official or when coaches
bitch at officials after the game, I'm like, you know what, guy,
it happens, right, but his team led by one point
with three seconds left, There's a loose ball, and like
a bunch of guys just go diving on it to
get the loose ball and they call the foul on
Golden State, which just walks Houston to line boom, free throw,
(35:16):
free throw, game over.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
So I can understand why he was ticked off.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
Well, it did the foul materially affect who was going
to recover this the basketball?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Now, I mean it just went from the ball the
way he described it.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
It was like the ball was twenty feet from the basket.
There was no way either team was going to score
before the clock ran out. It went and no one
player did anything more egregious than another player in trying.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
To get the ball. It was.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I mean, it's a jump ball one hundred times out
of one hundred, except when these officials are calling a
game with three sets.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
Well, I think that anybody who says that that you
should officiate the game exactly the same in the very
first minute to the last, I think I can convince
anybody that that's not actually that that's actually nonsensical, because if,
for example, if it was the last play of the
Super Bowl, two seconds to go, fourth down on the
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four yard line and somebody went in motion and you
could say factually he went forward one degree, Yeah, that's
a violation. But it was away from the play and
the quarterback sprint it out to the right and the
motion was to lift. There's not one there's not one
person in football on that one fan. Nobody would think
that you should call that a penalty, right, because nobody's
(36:32):
gaining an advantage. Now, I am not of if an
offensive player goes down the lane and takes a shot
with two seconds and he hits on it on the
wrist and he materially affects a shot. If I'm a ref,
I'm blowing the whistle absolutely, because like the whole idea
of like, well, we're gonna let him play, What do
you mean to let him play? How about let the
(36:52):
offensive player shoot the basketball in accordance with the rules.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
So that's a totally different deal.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
But what Kerr was describing, what you're described, I mean,
if it's away from the plane, it doesn't materially affect it.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Somebody's got to commit I don't know, felony assault.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
There is nothing even egregious about it.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I got it.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Yeah, all right, we come back. Jerry Brewer is gonna
join us. I want to remind you, though you want
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(37:33):
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in that game. We want you to text a four, nine,
four or five to one anytime between now and five o'clock.
The sooner the better, the numeracal grade that you think
Hugh is going to give Demond Williams for his performance
(37:55):
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the contest once again. At five o'clock, we're going to
do a Demond Williams discussion and break down how he
did against Oregon. Hugh is going to do at the
end a numeracle grade between zero and one hundred. Zero
is like the worst quarterback performance Hugh has ever seen
(02:48):
in his life at any level, right whereas one hundred
is I don't know, Joe Montana against the Chargers in
the Super Bowl or what I mean, whatever, whatever, you're
the greatest performances is whatever demand William's number that Hugh
gives him.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
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Speaker 5 (03:05):
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your name, the number one to one hundred and your
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person to nail it wins the pair.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
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Speaker 4 (03:20):
Now, first person to nail it, get the text in
right now, because if you nail the number.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Right, A couple of things, yes, a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
First of all, the forty nine Ers against the Chargers
in the Super Bowl never exists.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Steve Young, Right, yeah, okay, sorry, but.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
But we all understood what you.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Met, right.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
But I just was Steve, that was actually, you know what,
since its that Christmas season, I'm gonna just quickly You're
totally unaware that I'm about to do this, so is Jackson.
I gotta say, you're as good as anybody I've heard
on this station at promoting your spots. Like every time
I hear a commercial, I'm dying to get my house,
my ducks clean, and the carpet clean.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Help should I send that to help one? To make
sure they know that I've convinced you, Braid, I'm just
convince that you turn into Howard hughesing like thirty seconds
good stuff. But but but but two things.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
So, so the median then is basically fifty fifty would
be just your half of all the games you've seen.
We've seen half of every football game you've ever seen.
The quarterback has played below below fit.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yes, that's correct, right, So just an average, an average performance.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
And then the other thing and then on spot real quick,
this is very important. Are we grading just great looking
at a quarterback, a big ten quarterback, or or are
we grading with the the asterisk that we're looking at
a true fresh.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
No, we're just greating the quarterback performance.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Okay, so we're we're just quarterbacks performing quarterback, a big
ten quarter that's in a big ten games against the
number one is that is exactly we can take that
into account against the number one team.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Against the number one team on the road. I mean,
I just think it's it's greating his performance. I mean,
and I don't think you really need need to take
the opponent into consideration.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
The job that he's just. The opponent's definitely part of it.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Like listen, he's performing the way he is because stor
By the way, I like the strategy of some certain
people who are already texting in they're going point fives,
sort of like Gabe and to Corey and to a
few others who are giving point fives.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Interesting, interesting strategy, but now they're probably not gonna nail
it right on the money can.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Trying to try a little tiny So we'll talk.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
We'll talk Huskies later at five o'clock.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I want to get into this big game on Sunday
with the with the Seahawks and the Packers. You and
I will have the postgame show beginning right around eight
thirty to ten on Sunday night. Hopefully we're talking about
a Seahawk victory. And I've just been thinking about how
good this team is. And I was responding to a
(06:09):
tweet yesterday. There was a tweet to Safti and me
that said, hey, Softian Dick, It's gonna be Seahawks Rams
for the division, isn't it. And I kind of responded
with an unfortunately, yes, I mean I kind of I kind.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Of didn't want that scenario to take place.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I wanted the Rams to lose yesterday, so potentially we
wouldn't have the situation where it would have to come
down to that, to that game.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It looks like it probably will come down.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
We'll talk a little bit about how it could or
could not and in just a few moments and then
someone else responded to this to this text thread or
this tweet thread that was going on, and they responded
with this. They said, the Hawks, as they're playing right now,
would dog walk the Rams?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That is? That was his response, And I'm like, really
would they?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Because part of the reason the Hawks are playing like
they are are right now and winning four games in
a row is because simply of who they are playing.
And they played on the seventeenth of November what we
have seen to be a underwhelming San Francisco forty nine
Ers team, and they barely won that game by three.
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Then they played what has clearly become a pretty underwhelming
Arizona Cardinals team, and then they played a Jets game
that was just painful on the eyes to watch for
four quarters, and they ended up.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Winning that game.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
And then they put together a very solid four quarters
of football, the most in my opinion, the most solid
four quarters of football all season long, in that win
against Arizona. But as you pointed out earlier in the
week on our show and on different shows, that that
Arizona team isn't really much to write home about, particularly
(07:51):
in the front seven. So, Hugh, big picture, how good
a team is this? And would this team quote unquote
really walk all over with the Rams the way.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
They're playing right now, Well, you watch the Rams from
a week ago.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
They beat Buffalo.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
If they if they beat Buffalo at home, they can
beat anybody. In my opinion, I think that they are
kind of finding themselves offensively. They got a running back
that's running hard, you know, with Pooka Nakua out there.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I mean he's a magical catch every single week. He
is unbelieved.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Yeah, and paired with with with Cooper Cup. You know,
Stafford Is is a guy that can play at a
very high ceiling, extremely high ceiling with his knowledge. He
still has a live arm, moves around Okay. I mean
you know, just in the the last you know, five games,
(08:45):
if you just say, all right, where is he in
terms of his touchdown interception rate is ten? That's fourth
over the last the last five weeks. You know, he's
just they're just really on on track. And you saw
him last night. What they're capable of doing defensively. I
(09:08):
think that Buffalo game seem to have have really galvanized.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Them and.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Year and won a playoff game.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Yeah, I think they're they're playing with a lot of
zest and so uh yeah, I don't think they walk
them down. As for Seattle, I think you know, they've
been a volatile team. I think they're every every week
since the bye, starting with the Ram game, since that
Buffalo game, the Seahawks, if you take the defense points allowed,
(09:41):
the Seahawks are number one in the NFL and uh
and and if you say take out that touchdown they
give up in the overtime, and you just filter for
quarters one through four, they're number one in the next
closest is full two points on lower. So the gap
between one and two is greater in the gap between
two and seven, And so the defense has that's been
(10:05):
legit over these five games, and now they're gonna get tested. Yeah,
Green Bays got a former ofa ball offense obviously, Minnesota.
You know, if they can close this thing out, Stafford,
of course, Chicago's probably challenged offensively, but if they can
close this thing out, it'll be a pretty remarkable mirroring
(10:26):
defensively of what and we've been talking about it all season,
what happened in twenty twenty two with Mike McDonald and
those Ravens in his first year there where literally I'm
down to the week, Dick. You know, from weeks nine
and beyond where the Ravens really started to go because
they had had a poor game in Week eight, just
like Seattle had a poor game in Week eight against Buffalo.
(10:47):
So we'll see how this plays out. But I don't
think I don't think they can walk down the Ram.
I think the Rams are really fire. I think they
could beat the Rams sure, sure in an epic game
which is liable to be for the division. And you
know what I had thought going into this this week
was hope, hopefully the RAM game would be irrelevant, that
(11:08):
somehow they could they could navigate these next few weeks
and the RAM game would be irrelevant. Well, if you
if you just make a couple of assumption, a few assumption,
let's say, because I don't want to have to be
crossing my fingers about what happens with the RAM. So
they only have two games left prior to the finale
and seattls three, right, And so if you say that
(11:30):
the Rams are going to go to and O because
they're going to be Arizona six win, six and seven
Arizona team, and they're gonna be what a four win,
three win JET team? Yes, because you have to assume that,
then what does Seattle have to do.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
So there, it's almost going to be impossible.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
They'd have to be two games clear of the Rams
going into that final game for that game to be irrelevant, right,
That is unlikely to happen. Seattle have to go three
and oh, and the Rams would have to either go
go one on one or see, I'll have to go
too and one and the Rams they.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Have to go in too.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Okay, So that's that's off the table for me. Yeah,
there's an infinite testiment chance that can happen. What I'm
really focused on is, Okay, I can see this being
a championship game, last game of the year for the
NFC West. Probably not going to be able to get
a wild card. That's a whole nother conversation. But all
(12:26):
the marbles is coming down to that game. But you
got to make sure from a Seattle perspective that that'll
be enough. Like, all we have to do is beat
the Rams and we're the NFC West champs in that game.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
But that's not necessarily a situation, right. You pointed that
out on the Morning show today.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
If you lose to Minnesota in Green Bay, but you
beat Chicago then and then you beat the Rams. Then
both teams, both you and the Rams, will be you know,
head to head. That's the first time breaker, you'll be
one on one. Second tiebreaker division, you'll both be four
and two. Two, third tiebreaker common opponents, you'll both be
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four and four. Next tiebreaker conference, you'll both be six
and six. Of course, the record you know you're at
both at ten and seven. Then it cuts down to
strength of victory dick where Seattle will lose that right
now at four nineteen, Seattle, the teams that Seattle's beat
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have forty four wins. The teams that the Rams have
beat have fifty one, primarily because they beat Buffalo and
Seattle didn't. But even you know, in the scenario I
just outlined where you lose to both Minnesota and Green Bay,
you don't get to pick up those wins. Those would
be quality wins and you would lose that even though
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you beat the Rams. So what's the net net of it?
To feel comfortable about this, You got to win either
this Sunday or you got to beat the Vikings next Sunday.
Otherwise you're hoping that the Rams kick one against either
the Cardinals or the Jets to make it possible for
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you to win even by beating the Rams. So these
these these next nine days are going to tell the
story for what that Ram game is going to signify.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Well, And to your point about the strength of schedule
and the strength of victory in particularly for the Seahawks,
if you just go back and look, and this is
I mean, I'm not just talking about the Seahawks. There's
a lot of teams that go to the playoffs that
rack up nine to ten victories just beating up on
the cream puffs of the NFL. So this isn't unique
to the Seahawks. But just look at who they beat
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and when they played these teams. I mean, they played
bon Knicks at his worst point of the season because
it was his first start ever and bon Knicks has
had a very very good year, but Bo Nicks wasn't
Bow Knicks on September the eighth, and they won that
game by six. They needed a block field goal to
beat New England in New England.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
New England's a three win foot.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
They beat Miami with Skyler Thompson not to a tongue
of Biloa.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
They had a complete game against.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Atlanta, but Atlanta then was a better team than what
we're seeing Atlanta now as losers of four in a row.
San Francisco, that was a team that probably was at
their height of debilitation injury wise. When the Seahawks beat them,
and they beat them by three, they did cool off
a hot Arizona team, and that I mean, I think
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that's probably their their third most impressive win of the year.
Then they looked awful against New York but found a
way to win that game, and then probably their most
impressive win was what they just did against Arizona. So
if your most impressive wins, your three most impressive wins
on the season are two against a six and seven
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Cardinal team and one against a six and seven Falcon team,
that's not a lot to write home about as far
as quality wins. That's why for me, this is a
show me game for the Seattle Seahawks on Sunday. This
to me, I equate it to like going up to
my kids room because.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Hugh love my kids. They're clean, they don't stink.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
But let me tell you, when I open up the
door to their room, I mean I can't walk from
the door to kiss them good night without stepping on
close books video game. I'm like just it's a freaking minefield, right,
And so what I felt like from the last last
week against Arizona was like, yeah, I know, it's a
(16:34):
bad parenting.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
There's no questions bad parenting. And I opened up the
door and I was like, it's beautiful. Both kids' rooms
was beautiful. It was a complete game.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
The Seahawks pitched a complete game defensively, they pitched a
complete game offensively.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
And I'm like, oh my god. But you know what,
sometimes I open my kids rooms up, Hugh, and it
looks spotless.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Absolutely, But what rarely happens is when I open up
my kids rooms two days in a row and they're spotless, right.
And so I want to open up my kids room
on Sunday night football and I want to see two
spotless games in a row. Yeah, And I just don't
know if we'll see it against a team that would
be clearly the best football team that the Seahawks have
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not only beat this year, it is arguably, I mean,
right there with Detroit the best football team the Seahawks
have played this season.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Yeah, indeed. And by the way, the Rams also beat Minnesota.
So and so if you go too and one, then
in these you know, Beach Chicago and beat either Green
Bay or Minnesota, then then you're good. No matter what
happens with the Rams. Then that game, if you win,
you're the NFC West Champs. Okay, so so so in
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that regard, Yeah, I get it, we haven't seen the
impressive win.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
But I think that they are a remade defense. I
think you can.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Only really evaluate them post the Buffalo game because the
acquisition to Ernest Jones paired with an overhaul in your mindset.
Coming off the by it seemed like they just locked in.
It was just remarkable to me to watch the Buffalo
game that Monday morning and how they just they weren't
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closing gaps. They were getting gas to the inside and
the running gas to the outside, they weren't they weren't
communicating in zone coverage. I mean, they got thrashed in
every way. And then it seemed like all of a sudden,
you know, they got there. They're healthy. These are two
healthy football teams, get base getting better. They got a
tight end who's you know, Musgrave was just coming back.
But they got another young, great tight end, Romeo Dobbs
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one of their receivers. But but there for the most part,
with in Packerland talking about how they're they're relatively healthy.
They got some safeties banged up, but uh, Seattle getting
Nuosu back.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
This is as healthy as this.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Defense could ever expect to be us in December for
any team. They got everything they got him Jenkins was out.
I mean, you know, I'm in it just across the board.
I can't believe how healthy Witherspoon has remained when you
watch the tape and how he throws his body around,
and and so you know, obviously Leonard big cat, he's
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thirty years old playing like a twenty five year old.
I mean, you know, so there's a lot to like
about this defense. I'm loving just the test. I really
loving the test because because Jordan Love is one of
the ostensibly one of the real up and coming young quarterbacks.
He just has a knack for finding big plays. We'll
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get into some of the stats with him. But I
think your point is a fair one.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
When when we come back, I want to talk a
little bit about whether or not our arch rivals are
done and if the window has closed on the San
Francisco forty nine ers, and are they a team that
we are even going to have to worry about over
the next year or two.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
We'll do that next on ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Now back to the Washington State Beat Commissions Football Friday
with Safti and Dick on your home for the NFL.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FL.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
You know, if it wasn't for the fact that we
needed the forty nine ers to win last night to
help out the Seahawks chances of winning division, yesterday would
have just been absolutely perfect. The implosion of the hated
forty nine ers just playing out for a national.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
TV audience on Amazon.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
You have Brock Purty thrown into triple coverage in the
end zone for interception. You got Deebo Samuel who says,
I'm there's nothing wrong with me. I just need to
get the ball more. Dropping a just right in his
hands pass that may have ended up being a game
winning touchdown. I mean, there's a there is a there
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is a greater than zero percent chance that he catches
that makes it guy miss and ends up in the
end zone for a touchdown in the late stage of
the fourth quarter in that game. And then you've got
just the coup dei grad to top it all off,
You've got San Francisco linebacker Devondre Campbell quitting on his
football team for all to see in the third quarter,
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walking to the walking to the tunnel.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
And here's head coach Kyle Shanahan after on that happened
with Defondra Campbell. He didn't play it and he went
into the locker room at some point.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Yeah, he didn't said he didn't want to play today.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Play today?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, the coaching.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
Staff, he didn't. Whant I asked him why didn't want
to go in during the game or before that was
in the third quarter.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Does that ever happened to you where a player said
they didn't want to play in a game?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
No, he got demoted for this game. He was not
going to play.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
No, he was gonna he was going to go in
when Drake came out. We'll figure out something, but I
don't know that right now.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Did he give you any reason why he didn't want
to play today?
Speaker 4 (21:58):
No?
Speaker 8 (21:59):
Did they create this, especially knowing that at this point
in the season, with the typer season that this has
started out to be, you kind of need as much
camaraderie as possible to be successful.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
When someone says that that you move on, you don't
deal with that anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
What do you need to do to ensure that you
don't lose the rest of the locker room.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
I haven't lost anybody. That's somebody who doesn't want to
play football. That's pretty simple. I don't think we need
to talk about him anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
I mean we had a similar situation back with Percy Harvin,
but we found that out after the fact, Hugh that
he didn't want to go in when Pete Carroll told
him to go in. He didn't just walk off the
field and into the tunnel on a Thursday night football game.
And what did you think when you saw that going on?
(22:46):
And like, what do you think what would be going
through your mind if you were standing on the sidelines
or even in the football game and that happened during
a game you were playing.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
It a complete shock.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
I think that we could probably you know a lot
of topics that we talk about on the radio, where
you can you can find division and reasonable minds can differ.
I can't imagine anybody in this listening audience, you know,
you get a one hundred thousand fans, you're get to
every single one hundred thousand fans is going to be
in a complete agreement.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
It's totally unacceptable.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
I mean, when you think of that, you're playing in
a division game, a division rival. The forty nine ers
would say either the Seahawks or the Rams are their
their division rival, that it's kind of their last gasp
on national TV at home to make the playoffs. And
a guy because he's salty about playing time. I mean,
this is the type of thing that your entire legacy,
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whatever however, you're going to be remembered. There's some things,
you know, like Scottie Pippen and he says he doesn't
want to go in you know, he's still trying to
live that down after all these years. And he was
a lot bigger figure in the NBA than this guy.
So this is going to be how he's remembered. His
kids and his grandkids will be able to google this,
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and it's it's beyond shocking.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I assume he's been cut.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Not yet, not yet.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Well, you know, maybe there's some legalities. You know, you
got to check and make sure there was a mental
health issues or something like that.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I'll tell you what I played.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
You know, if you're a journeyman, you bounce around, you play,
you know, I once look look at an all time
Pro Bowl roster and I'd played with ninety three Pro
Bowlers and then and then I counted the Hall of Famers.
I think it was sixteen. Andre Tippett was one of
the Hall of famers I played with. He was a
seven degree black belt Patriots, A big, big, huge linebacker,
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like two hundred and fifty pounds linebacker, and unbelievable, he's
in the Hall of Fame. One of the baddest men
that have ever walked planet Earth. I remember one time,
I can't remember what the issue was, but I remember
standing up. This is talking to the entire team. If
you do blank, whatever blank was, I will put a
boot up your ass. And he Warren, he would, he
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would take on any lineman. And I'm telling you what,
if Andre Tippett was on that hands would have been thrown.
That dude would have gone like that would have been
like no, no, no, you you don't quit like that. I
think it's I think it's appalling, and I think it's
life altering for this guy because look at Antonio Brown.
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Antonio Brown hasn't come back when he walked out out
of that back.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Of the end zone.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
He has not seen the NFL field, So I don't
know what he thought the consequences were going to be,
but I'm certain what the con conquences will be and
they should be.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
And you know, we normally see this whenever a player
misbehaves whatever whatever reason, we normally see teammates rally to
their defense. You know, it's the fraternity. You know, I'm
gonna back you, You're gonna back me. You know, it'll
all be good. We're gonna we're gonna try to put water.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
On this fire. And boy, that is not what happened.
Here's George Kittle.
Speaker 8 (25:55):
Does that create distention or just believe or his connection
on the sideline.
Speaker 9 (26:03):
Not disbelieve or disconnection like as a team. That is
one person who just decided not to, you know, play
for his teammates. And no, I don't think that that
doesn't like does make our office look at should be
like wow, man, No, we're falling apart. It's more of
a or like the defense, Hey, we're falling apart. It's
more of a one person making a like Mooney said,
(26:27):
a selfish decision. And I'm with Mooney on that, And
I have never been around anybody that's ever done that.
And I hope I'm never run anybody that does that.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Again leads to a bigger picture. Now you a bigger question.
Are the San Francisco forty nine ers done? I mean,
have we seen now? Because we saw cracks, we talked
about the Remember Softie and Jackson I talking about this
in February. We're like, ooh, Brandon I, Yuke's holding out.
This is kind of weird, like should this really be
(26:54):
happening right now? And it vibes don't seem great with
this football team. And then you get Deebo Samuel coming
out in public and he's all pissed off. And then
brock Perty's kind of had a mey year, and you've
had all these injuries, and now there's rumors that, you know,
the Chicago might trade for Kyle Shanahan to come to Chicago.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Have we seen the run? Is it over for San Francisco?
In your opinion, well, it could be.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
I think it's hard to be up at the top,
keep knocking and the door doesn't open. Their their Super
Bowl disappointments. At some point you just maybe lose some
faith in the whole enterprise. Now they've got some issues.
They're the seventh oldest team in the NFL, and the
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second youngest team is the Rams. So if you want
to if you want to do yeah, well yeah, you
think of the Rams because they had to, you know,
they went all in on the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
And plus I got an old quarterbacks. You think you
just buy by virtue of that. You're like, oh, they
got an old football team.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
But on defense, I mean, they're just playing with a
bunch of young dudes.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
And and you know, credit their front office for the
acquisition of the talent. And that may may be one
of the reasons why the Rams are finishing strong because
there they are younger, and you know, it's kind of
like when you start golfing and your handicaps dropping and
you can't wait to get back out on the course
because you think, you know, at this rate, I'm going
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to be.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
A scratch and then I'll be a plus three.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Well you're not going to be a plus three and
and and you know, and all likely the Rams aren't
winning the Super Bowl, but they're improving so much and
they're young enough that they just feel like they're on
this trend. And so that would be a couple of
facts that would be part of your argument if you
wanted to make an argument. The other thing is is
the I know we're breaking, but Brock Purdy. There was
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something in brock Purdy. Now I understand he's small handed guy,
the weather and it's going to maybe affect him more,
there was something about his body language that I had
never seen. And all I've ever said here on the
station in defense, I like brock Purdy as a person.
He seems like a humble guy. The whole uh mister
irrelevant story, I think is great. What I've been I've
(29:08):
been careful to use my words. What I've said is, look,
let me try and tell you what Kyle Shanahan sees
in brock Purty. Because he can't sit there and say well,
he's got no skill set. When and say that Kyle
Shanahan is one of the brightest minds in football and say, well,
he didn't want Trey Lance, who had all the skills
you could ever want, size, speed, arm strength, Sam Darnold
(29:29):
had all the traits you could ever want.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Uh Garoppolo for that matter, quick release like he'd hole.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
Shanahan has jettisoned a lot of quarterbacks and shows in
brock Purty. So I've I've just said, look the nuance,
the finer points of quarterbacking, namely anticipation, elite it to anticipation, accuracy,
what have you, and still driving the ball down the field.
He's not a checkdown Charlie, all of those things. They
have a big question about his salary, and you know,
(29:58):
with the age of these guys, what contracts have to
go do to part party? Do you, in fact, do
you throw fifty five million at perty or do you
try and talk him down to thirty five or forty million?
And then where's Purdy's confidence? Because there was something from
Brock Purdy last night I have never seen interesting interesting
And there was just a dour look on his face,
and his play matched it absolutely And that's the worst
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I've ever seen him look.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
And if they decide to go with him, they're gonna
have the same problem.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
You just heard Jerry Jones yesterday say quote, I knew
we're going to be a challenge financially in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's gonna be really, really tight.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Well, if the Cowboys are tight because of Dak Prescott,
the Niners are gonna be tight because of Rock Perdy.
If they bay him anywhere close to what Dak Prescott
is making fun with audio. Coming up next on ninety
three point three KJFM.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
It's now time for someday in Dick's Fun with Audio.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Now let's have some fun with audio.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
It's fun with audio time here on ninety three point
three KJRFM.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
We begin with a little month or it's not Monday
Night football.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
We begin with a little NFL football And this is
an interesting story. A couple of days ago, we saw
a video being revealed from a card show in twenty
twenty three of Brett Farv and former Jets defensive end
Mark Gastno, and in the video, Gastono expresses his frustration
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that Farv took a dive during the regular season finale
in two thousand and one to give Michael Strahan the
single season sack record, breaking the sack mark that Gastono
had set in nineteen eighty five. So yesterday on Boomer
and g O on WFAM, Boomer shares his blunt thoughts
(31:51):
on former Jets defensive end Mark Gastino.
Speaker 10 (31:53):
Mark Gaston is dealing with some medical issues, is he not?
I has to be right so I can't stand a guy.
The guy was a dirty, cheap shot in the son
of a bitch as far as I'm concerned. And you
know I know this because he was on the elevator
in the West and in Cincinnati telling my buddies, who
are there to watch the game, if you tell you
boy Boomer, to call an ambulance because he's going down.
(32:14):
And he was trying to cheap shot me the whole
damn game. So screw him, That's what I say.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah, well that was okay, cheap shot. I'm dirty cheap shot.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
And it's like your buddy out there in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Hall of Famer John Randall.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I mean, Hugh, it was very odd.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
I don't know if you saw this video, but it's
literally twenty two years after Brett Fav went down on
the last play of the game that Mark Gastino finds
him at a card show and just gets in his
face about it.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I mean, like, what was.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Your experience with Mark gaston Well, I never I was
on a team that played against him. I wasn't on
the field by the time I was playing for the Patriots,
he was out of the league. But I remember kind
of preparing for me a really good player, kind of
a douce. I'll tell you what if you YouTube that
that exchanged that he had.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Uh, it's one of the.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
It will be the most cringe worthy good word video
you will watch this month, and it will be It
will make a top ten for the year.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
No question about it. Hey, Hugh, did you hear that?
What's that?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Dick?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
The Warriors were eliminated from the NBA Cup on Wednesday
with the one point loss to the Rockets Takes in
part to a loose ball foul called with three seconds left,
leaving Steve Kerr outraged with the officials after the game.
Speaker 11 (33:34):
A loose ball foul on a jump ball situation eighty
feet from the basket with the game on the line.
I've never seen that.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
That is.
Speaker 11 (33:45):
Unconscionable. I don't I don't even understand what just happened.
The game was a complete wrestling match. You know they
didn't call anything. Steph Curry got hit on the elbow
playing his day on a jump shot, just.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Clubbed right on there. No call.
Speaker 11 (34:00):
So are you've established you're just not going to call
anything throughout the game.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
It's physical game.
Speaker 11 (34:05):
I'm going to call it a loose ball foul on
a jump ball situation with guys diving on the floor
with the game on the line.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
This is a.
Speaker 11 (34:15):
Billion dollar industry, get people's jobs on the line. I
am stunned a call that I don't think an elementary
school referee would have made, because that guy would have
had feel and said, you know what, I'm not going
to decide a game on a loose ball eighty feet
from the basket.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Well, and you can tell this NBA Cup is elevated
the at least the importance to the players and the coaches.
I mean, I think he would have been angry, Hugh
had it been any regular season game, but because it
knocked them out of this NBA Cup quarterfinals with an
opportunity to make a heck of a lot more money
for him and the players.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
But I don't know if you saw the play, but
I got to agree with Steve Kerr.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Usually I'm kind of like when official or when coaches
bitch at officials after the game, I'm like, you know what, guy,
it happens, right, but his team led by one point
with three seconds left, There's a loose ball, and like
a bunch of guys just go diving on it to
get the loose ball and they call the foul on
Golden State, which just walks Houston to line boom, free throw,
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free throw, game over.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
So I can understand why he was ticked off.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
Well, it did the foul materially affect who was going
to recover this the basketball?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Now, I mean it just went from the ball the
way he described it.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
It was like the ball was twenty feet from the basket.
There was no way either team was going to score
before the clock ran out. It went and no one
player did anything more egregious than another player in trying.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
To get the ball. It was.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I mean, it's a jump ball one hundred times out
of one hundred, except when these officials are calling a
game with three sets.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
Well, I think that anybody who says that that you
should officiate the game exactly the same in the very
first minute to the last, I think I can convince
anybody that that's not actually that that's actually nonsensical, because if,
for example, if it was the last play of the
Super Bowl, two seconds to go, fourth down on the
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four yard line and somebody went in motion and you
could say factually he went forward one degree, Yeah, that's
a violation. But it was away from the play and
the quarterback sprint it out to the right and the
motion was to lift. There's not one there's not one
person in football on that one fan. Nobody would think
that you should call that a penalty, right, because nobody's
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gaining an advantage. Now, I am not of if an
offensive player goes down the lane and takes a shot
with two seconds and he hits on it on the
wrist and he materially affects a shot. If I'm a ref,
I'm blowing the whistle absolutely, because like the whole idea
of like, well, we're gonna let him play, What do
you mean to let him play? How about let the
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offensive player shoot the basketball in accordance with the rules.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
So that's a totally different deal.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
But what Kerr was describing, what you're described, I mean,
if it's away from the plane, it doesn't materially affect it.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Somebody's got to commit I don't know, felony assault.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
There is nothing even egregious about it.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I got it.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Yeah, all right, we come back. Jerry Brewer is gonna
join us. I want to remind you, though you want
to be tuning in, you want to be texting now
and tuning in the five o'clock segment when Jue when
Hugh breaks down, demand Williams performance against Oregon because you
have an opportunity to win a pair of Around the
Sound golf passes valuated over five hundred dollars each one
(37:33):
of them's two seventy nine. You can get him at
seattlegolfpass dot com. But Hugh's gonna give a numerical grade
between one and one hundred on how Demond Williams performed
in that game. We want you to text a four, nine,
four or five to one anytime between now and five o'clock.
The sooner the better, the numeracal grade that you think
Hugh is going to give Demond Williams for his performance
(37:55):
against Oregon, and the closest to the pin wins the
pair of Around the Sound golf passes. JAB Jerry Brewer
joins us next on Night three point three KJRFM
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