December 22, 2025 • 26 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Hugh Millen debate the DK Metcalf issue after he hit a fan in Detroit yesterday and how players need to act around unruly fans, then they discuss Michigan football’s open job, Jedd Fisch’s candidacy, and his future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alright, he went for Nick Fane, Jackson's back and the
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producer's booth. After spending a week on a Mexican cruise
panning that hairy body of his, the Caribbean, Son.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Lots of alcohol, so I got the drink package.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh boys, it's funny. I wasn't even in a cruise
and I had to drink package last week.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Man, So dude, you missed the greatest thing off game
about that.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
So it's funny actually, because I what we did is
the cruise ended on Thursday morning, right, and then we
rented a car and drove from Long Beach, California over
to my sister's place in Phoenix. We get to Phoenix
in the middle of the third quarter. Man, and I
at that point, I just I don't understand this. We
don't need to watch it, you know, it's just what happened.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And then with about two minutes ago, my brother in
law says Jackson, I got a Christmas gift for you,
and he takes me into the living room and then it's.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Just absolute pandemonia, dude, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Well, we've gone from thinking they got a shot to
win the Super Bowl to thinking they have a shot
to win the Super Bowl after that game with the
Rams on Sunday, So w't chat more about that verse Thursday.
What chat more about that coming up? But hughes in
for Dick, Hugh, I want to continue the DK metcalf
conversation for a little bit because, again, just so people know,
I think that there's too many times in this business
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where we don't try and see at least another side
of a story, right, And I agree with your take
that you had last segment. There's no excuse for what
DK Metcalf did. It's horrible for the league, horrible for
the relationship between the NFL and the fans. It leads
to horrible, horrific things when players put their hands on fans.
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No matter what's being said, you can't do it top
of the mountain. Totally agree with you. But I threw
this out on Twitter seven hours ago, and by the way,
most people agree with you, Hugh that the answer is no,
there's nothing a fan can say. I said, simply put,
doesn't matter at all what the fan in Detroit said
to DK Metcalf or is DK one hundred percent and
they're wrong no matter what. And I would just like
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to offer a little bit of context to the story
that Brady Henderson, who works for ESPN, you know, Brady,
obviously Hugh Sure is reporting that DKAY reported this guy,
this fan, this Ryan Kennedy kid to Seattle team security
in the past, a source confirmed to ESPN's Brady Henderson.
The Seahawks played at Detroit in twenty twenty two, twenty
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twenty three, in twenty twenty four. So again, agree with
you in general terms. Mostly in every term, I agree
with you. I would love to know, though, a little
more context as to what dkay's issues have been with
this guy in the past, what he said to him,
and why he was allowed in the stadium in the
first place, if he's been reported by DKA on three
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different occasions to Seahawks security.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Yeah, well, I still don't know if you presented as
a dispute to my take. You've you're challenging me to
think about it, but you're not taking that take. I'll
say this, what you're suggesting, I'll take my interpretation of
what you said. You're you're in essence saying, are are
there fighting words?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (03:05):
And I believe the answer to that is yes, there
are fighting words. But the context matters. If you're in
a parking lot, or let's say you're playing some some
pickup hoop on the black top and you you know,
you come as a white person, you come up to
a black guy, and you use the N word in
almost any context, use the N word, You deserve what's
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coming to you. But let's but, but let's let's just
talk about a couple I'll say two contexts.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
One, let's suppose take.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Thurgood Marshall, the first black Supreme Court justice in the
United States history. Suppose he was walking up the court
steps and somebody from the street yelled the N word
at him. Is that is that any different? Is there
any Is there any point where you'd say, listen, that
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that is totally inappropriate, usable what what was just said
to you? It's it's evil, it's provocative. They are fighting words.
But given who you are and your environment, you can't respond.
So and obviously we could think of others. Well, I
would say this, if you're a professional athlete, I'm sorry,
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you can't do it. And and so the remedy is
this DK did what he was supposed to do and
report it. This is this is a breakdown in the
security at Detroit. It's it's it's coincidental that we're talking
about that you reference the basketball melee that also happened
in Detroit. Right, So if the if, if this becomes
an issue, the remedy would be relatively simple. On row one,
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seat one of about three or four aisles behind the
visiting bench, there is a guard, right, and and if
a player feels like he's provoked in a way that
crosses the line, they they the players would be instructed
to to, you know, kind of point at that security
guy that you know is in row one, and then
you point here and and but here's the deal. Even
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you know, if DK, let's say, the worst possible thing
you could imagine was uttered the DKA. From a pragmatic standpoint,
how do you legend now all of a sudden, if
you say, oh, it's okay that DK had that response,
how are you gonna legislate the next one? Are we
gonna have some sliding deal? Are we gonna have a chart,
and says, well, well, if if they call you the
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N word and the blah blah blah, that that's okay
you can punch. But if they just call you a bitch,
then then no, that's that's not warranting a punch like, Yeah,
the pragmatism just overwhelms any any type of defense of that.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So can I agree with that? I totally agree with that.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I mean, I'm not I'm not disputing that whatsoever I
got I guess, I guess My point is this is
that I'm not sitting here and trying to come up
with some excuse for DK Metcalf to walk over and
slug the guy.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
That's not what I'm saying to you. Whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
What I'm saying and you kind of hinted at it
right there, is that I think because of the history
with this guy, and again not knowing the context of
DK or the fans, the history with this fan and
DK Metcalf, whatever has been, whatever's gone down the previous
three years, I have no idea what it is. Because
of the potential context that's missing, I think there's room
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in this story to criticize NFL security and their culpability
in this situation becoming what it became. That would be
an angle on this story that I would approach, and
I mean, god, I would almost have DK Metcalf go
to Mike Tomlin during the game and say Hey, man,
this guy's back, This freaking idiot's back.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
What do you want me to do?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
And then Mike Tomlin goes to his guys and said,
get him the hell out of here. Get that guy
out of here, get him away from our bench. He's
got no right to be here. I want him gone.
So I don't know what was said on what was done,
but it seems to me that there's a possibility that
DK Metcalf, even though he's got a little bit of
a history of being a hothead, may have been pushed
too far by this guy, and that NFL security could
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have done a better job in diffusing this situation before
it got to what it was yesterday.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
That have security every team I was on.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
You have security that travels, even if you only had
three guys that were the buffer. Let's say, here's the
process and the players you could have, Like, we have
a lot of meetings in the offseason training camp regarding
you know, hey, you better not gamble, you know, be
careful of fraud. And they come in and they give
us all these examples of how athletes have been defrauded
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or roof feed in and blackmail because you got you know,
naked pictures of yourself or you know, like there's all
kinds of warnings that we get, so one of them
could be listen, Yeah, if you have if you're the
victim of inappropriate fan interaction, if you had two or
three security members, you know, right kind of right behind
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your bench, you go to your own teams secure the
Pittsburgh guy. And then you have a couple of as
I said, row one, seat one, four or five security
guards that are in the stands. And so now your
security is the is the liaison, the proxy to go over.
And then now all of a sudden, it's out of
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DK's hands.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
He said.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
He says to his own security guy, look that I
know that guy. He's done it before, he's crossing the line.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
And then that.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Pittsburgh guy immediately goes over to the guy that the
garden the bench. I mean, we're talking about listening to
ten people.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
No, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And this is all and this is all dependent on
the idea that this guy was yelling things at DK
Metcalf that he shouldn't be yelling. I mean, if none
of that is true, then forget it. I mean, it's
just you move on. You go to your side of
the argument, and it's done whatever. I mean, there's videos
coming out that are talking about how this guy was
calling him by his given name right to Kaelin obviously,
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and that was irritating the hell out of him. I
don't know if any of that stuff was being said.
That's what came metcalfis you just said yes.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
I think you qualified. You said.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
If we find out that it wasn't said, then forget
about it. My position is.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I wouldn't even have the conversation with you. That's my point.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I'm only asking you, does it matter what the fans
said based on the idea that there were some racial
overtones coming out of his mouth. That's the only reason
why I'm having that conversation with you. If this guy
called this dude the N word or called his mom
to see you next Tuesday. I'm asking you, does it
matter under those circumstances at all what came out of
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this fan's mouth.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Your answer is no.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
My reaction is unless that was the case, I wouldn't
even be asking you that. If this guy's just cat
calling a DK, you're a bum whatever. I'm not asking
you about that. Of course, I'm not asking about.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
That Okay, I understand what you said.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
So we're obviously talking about the height the worst things
that a fan could say to an athlete, right, correct?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Correct?
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Oh, yes, all right, Absolutely, what I'm saying is what.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
If he threatened to kill the guy in the parking
lot when the game is over? I mean, honestly, like
I'm just again, you have security, you have security, and
I and I again, I absolutely I think generally and
more than generally agree with you.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah, it's just the conversation.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I just think it's worth asking is there anything a
fan can say that would justify anything that DK METCF
did And if the answer is absolutely not, I see it.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I see your point.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Is there anything this guy could have said harassing him
for multiple seasons, multiple years that would have led to
anybody human being Maleman, pizza delivery boy, talk show host,
or athlete snapping the way he did yesterday.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Well, as a fan of the game, I would have
a different Yeah, I would have. I would say that
if he's called the N word, there's more justification to
throw the punch than if he called him by his
first name. And he doesn't like to be called by
his first name, So yes, there is a scale that
we can say, hey, this type of harassing a professional
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athlete is worse than that kind. Obviously, stealing a automobile
is worse than stealing a candy bar. So so yes,
of course there's a scale there. But what I'm saying
is is even stealing autimbles, there's no justification whatsoever for
what Metcalf did that.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Nope, no, sorry, No, I get it. Solved it another way.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
That's not the athlete's job to be at police fan conduct.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I get it, and I am and again for the
most part, ninety nine point nine nine percent in agreement
with you. There's a little small sliver of me that
wants to hear more about what les.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Well, Hey, if he used the N word, there's more
than a sliver than me that DK at six four five.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
I'd like him to knock him out. I'd like him
to go Mike Tyson.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
So then you would say, you're would saying me, don't
do that, the suspension warranted, but good for you.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
No, I wouldn't say good for you. I say you
can't do it.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I would like, yeah, no, there there's a side. There's
a compartment in me that that sure I would say, hey,
knock his teeth out right. But but then there are
the superseding. That reaction is the reaction of saying, what
do we have if we have a professional sports environment.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Yeah we're yeah, where athletes are doing this. It's just
it's not it's.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Not remotely feasible to uh to uh administer this. So no, no.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Well, it's just I mean, look, it's a sad situation
all around. It's a bad look for DK obviously, a
bad look for this guy, bad look for the NFL,
bad look for Pittsburgh, bad look for ford Field, all
of that, right, I mean, nothing good obviously happens out
of this unless you're the Cleveland Browns and you're playing
the Steelers next week and.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Not having a face DK Metcalf. Those are the winners.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
That's the team that wins as whoever gets the Pittsburgh
in the next two weeks and doesn't have to face
DK Metcalf because he's been popped for a couple of games.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So all right, here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Rich gannon right, Hugh, the two thousand and two NFL
MVP who played in Super Bowl thirty seven. I believe
it was with the Raiders against John Gruden and the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers in that defense. Maybe he sees some
similarities in that Tampa Bay defense that he saw in
that game to what we're seeing right now in Seattle
with the Seahawks and their phenomenal defense. So rich Gannon,
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coming up at around five o'clock tonight, you missed, Michael Pennex,
We're gonna play that for you again, coming up at six.
We got the Hawks in Carolina. We got the Niners
and Colts in a massive game tonight in Indy. There's
still a shot a chance if the Seahawks could finish
third in the NFC West and end up as the
seventh seed.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
In the NFC playoffs. We'll talk about that.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Michigan has still not hired a head coach, by the way,
almost two weeks after Sharon Moore got fired. We'll get
to all of that and more. Softy Dick Jackson, Dick
is out, hum Millon's in for Dick. As we continue
on a busy Monday, Don't forget we got Husky basketball
over on nine fifty am at seven o'clock against San Diego,
and the Colt Niner game is over on ten ninety
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we're gonna break more with Humillon next on ninety three
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Speaker 3 (14:36):
Alright, boys and girls, Heavy Monday.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Rich Cannon two thousand and two NFL MVP will join
us coming up at five o'clock tonight.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Hum Mellon's in for Dick.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Fane Cracking Ducks coming up pregame six thirty Face Off seven,
Michael Pennox in the six pm hour as well.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Michael Benton will join us or is it ever tonight?
Remind me againon's doing playoff play. He'll join us at six.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
There you go, We'll get to Mikey's thoughts on the
Mason march Mint trade that happened in the last few days.
Brandon Montour is now out with a hand injury, and
the Kraken are falling, falling further down the ladder in
the NHL, now tied for the worst record in the league.
So I say they've hit bottom and now it's time
to bounce back up. They got to win over the weekend.
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We'll see if they can make a two in a
row tonight at the Ducks. H Mellon rejoins us you.
We'll get some text for you coming up at four nine,
four or five to one in the next segment, looking
forward to our conversation where Rich Gannon at five pm,
the former NFL MVP. But I'm sitting here almost two
weeks from the day that Sharad Moore was fired by
Michigan and the Wolverines still don't have a football coach.
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And you know a lot of people were keeping an
eye on what Caitlyn de Bor was gonna do. That
Maybe if Kaitlin had lost to Oklahoma, Michigan would make
a run at him, but he's obviously busy. They won't
be able to get their hands on him until at
least after New Year's Day. I know Biff Poggy is
it Pogy or Poggy by the way, the interim guy
at Michigan Poggy. Okay, Biff Pogy has said he is
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in viewed now a couple of times for the head
coaching job at Michigan.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I don't remember who it was.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
It may have been new heisl who was on the
show with us about a week and a half ago,
Hugh and said, you know what, Michigan may let this
biff guy coach the football team for a year, let
the investigation go by, let everything settle down, and then
go out and take a big swing at somebody next
off season.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
So that certainly is a possibility.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
But the longer the job stays open and every day
it's still vacant, Jedfish's JOT name is still attached to
that possibility. Over at Michigan. There's a report, I don't
know if you saw this or not, Hugh a couple
of days ago, that Jed had been taken off the list.
There were some red flags that came up in the
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investigative process, I guess the discovery process looking at his background.
Nothing crazy, nothing, you know, nefarious or anything. But somebody
I think wrote that his ties to Harbaugh and has
ties to Connor Stallion's been a turn off for the Wolverines.
I don't know what that was all about, but that
was one thing I read. So the Jetfish to Michigan thing,
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can we kind of drop it? Can we officially drop it?
Or is it still very much, in your mind an issue.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Well, I think it's an issue until there's a new
coach at Michigan and maybe Poggy and and there's some
prudence to that that idea by Rick right suggesting I
think I had read that maybe the background check led
them to the Wolverines, to the Delora situation involving a
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high school, you know, rape allegation. You know, I don't
know any sort of details on that, but that may
have been something. I mean, if you're Michigan right now,
they may be fed up. Think of how proud that
institution is with respect to their academic and athletic accomplishments.
You know, they probably be a lot of factions within them.
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I would think would be saying enough, as enough, we
got to get somebody squeaky clean and so so maybe
if there's just one little mark on you, then.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Mean even if you coach Jaden DeLaura, for some people,
that might be enough to say no.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Well, I think there's I think there's he he fish uh,
you know, presented a defense of Dolaura regarding what had
taken place, and and maybe that could be off putting.
I don't wanna get over my skis on this because
I didn't you know, it's it's a pretty serious nature.
And if I don't have my ducks in a row
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on that, I'm just saying, you know, google it, read it.
I'm not in a position to give you great details.
I'll concur with what you I've read also that that
that he's been flagged in that process. But you know,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna stand on business on
on what it was. I will say say this, I
can present these facts. There's a comment you can you
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can gauge the credibility of a man named Ben Dogra.
Ben Dagra was a co head of Creative Art Agency,
a sports agency and you'll you'll know these names, Dave
uh co head with Tom Condon if you can remember him, Yeah,
you know for a number of years the you know,
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Peyton Mann and Eli Man and you know and all
the rest, the number one agent and all of it
the NFL, and also co head with Jimmy Sexton. If
you're a football fan, you know Jimmy Sexton and he's
you know, he's got Nick Saban, Kaylen de Bors, Steve
Sarkes and Langkiff and James Franklin Kirby Smart seven of
the top ten paid highest paid coaches in college football.
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So Sexton and Condon worked with Dogra at the Creative
Art Agency, got it. And Ben Dagra I'm gonna give
you a code in a second. But one more piece here,
Ben dagera by the sport uh Sports Business Journal, they
ranked Ben Dagra the number six most powerful sports agent.
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I mean when he had represented at RG three and
Adrian Peterson and many others. But here's what Ben Dogra
was quoted as saying. This is from Newsweek magazine last week.
All right, I mean the regular news Week Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
this is quote. I know for a fact that he
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meaning Fish. I know for a fact that Fish has
been looking for another job. He wanted the floor to job,
did not get it, and he's very, very very interested
in the Michigan job.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
End quote.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
So that is certainly, at the very least a conversation
piece for Husky fans.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I don't have any doubt that Jedfish is interested in
the Michigan job. I'm also interested when I was sixteen
years old in dating Bo Derek.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
It's a very apt analogy. We understand. You feel there's
got to be two You got to be two parties. Yes,
I'm with you, I'm tracking right along with you. But
I do think it's a news story at now he
said or not. I'm not saying that that it's facts.
The only thing I'm saying is that it's a fact
that Newsweek reported this quote and and and the other
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part that is at least worth a conversation for Husky
sitting around having a beer is he says, I know
for a fact that he's been looking for another job. Now,
those are the words. I don't know what that means.
You know that that implies something beyond oh, I want
the Florida job and I want the Michigan job. Those
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are extremely high profile jobs and for Jedfish and of
Florida alum, very understandable. In Michigan, you don't have to
say anything any you know, Michigan is one of the
obviously one of the top jobs.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
In college football.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
But the comment I know for a fact that he's
been looking for another job, well, does he just mean
those two ors?
Speaker 6 (21:56):
You know? So at any event, Yeah, I think that's
a story.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Yeah, if you know, and people say, well, why is
Jetfish's name keep circulating?
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Well, you know what it's from. As for reasons like
this and that quote.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Sure, yeah, And I don't you know what, I don't
want to speak for all of Husky Nation or Husky fans.
I mean, speaking for anybody but yourself is actually kind
of ridiculous. Like a lot of people in this business
will say things like, I don't want to speak for
anybody else. Well, you can't really unless you're talking for
your kids or whatever. Man you're speaking for your wife.
I mean, you got one mouth and one brain and
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one opinion for crying out loud. But I get the feeling, Hugh,
and maybe Jackson you agree also, And maybe Hugh you're
tracking with me on this that most Husky fans don't
look at Jed as a long, long term answer at Washington,
Like Caitlin de Boorr, we had the conversation when he
was here, the words the next.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Don James would come up.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I don't think anybody's thinking that at all about Jetfish.
So the fact that he's got interest in this job
or interest in that job, none of that is surprising
to me what soever. I think I think the story
really becomes what other schools have interest in him?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
That's the story.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, right, because it's one of those kind of it's
the tweeter, right, he isn't a coach that has big
enough success a lah Klen de Bord to go to
a bigger program, but he's also not bad enough to
get fired from you dubbin. And then you know, you
wonder kind of in this realm, like what does Jedfish's
future look like?
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Right?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
You know, does he do well enough with demand next
year where he could go get a larger Michigan esque job,
But if he just continues to be nine to four
ish with us, like that's no, I don't think a
bigger school than the University of Washington's gonna go after him.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
It's a weird spot.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
It wasn't that kind of I mean, do you kind
of agree with that that the story, the the the
curiosity here is no longer does Jedfish have interest in
other jobs?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
It's what schools have interest in him?
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Yeah, yeah, because well, look it's a say news story,
but it's it's a story that's relevant a Husky football
fans and the and the foot Husky Football network in
the Husky football community. If the head coach of the
University of Washington is somewhat actively seeking other jobs. That's
a story. Whether he gets them or not, that's a story.
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I mean, if if we were hearing all the time,
if if sports agents were saying, I know for a
fact that Don James wanted to get the Ohio State job,
and that he wanted to get the LSU job whatever,
you know, like, Okay, that's a story. He didn't get it,
but it's still a story. And and by the way,
I think you know, just uh, you're you're comment about
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what your you can always speak to your sense.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah, that's why I say yours.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Like like people say, well, what are the Huskies you know,
you're you're eighty four team. I say, I'm not gonna
speak for my teammates, we had over one hundred of them.
I can speak to my own sense of what the
co you know, general feeling was in the locker room.
But I'm not gonna speak for my teammates with Washington
or the Patriots whatever. But I can't speak to my sense.
And so you can speak to your sense of what
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the majority of Husky you know, the majority of Husky
fans feel.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Right, Yeah, we're.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Obviously we're not in anybody's hands. But you can speak
to your sense about that well, and that's the way
I agree with you. It's a semantics yeah, it's a
semantics distinction, but I think it's an important distinction, and
so so I would agree with you my sense of
majority of Husky fans there, they tend they're their realists
about him. Yeah, and uh, you know, hey, this year's
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you know, if you're graphing, hey, things things are on
the incline is better than last year. He had a
good recruiting class, and so uh a question.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Can I ask you a question real quick because we got
like a minute left?
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Please?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Do you think Jed's done a good job in the
two years he's been here, given the context of what
he inherited?
Speaker 5 (25:47):
I think he's done part. I think he's done part yes,
Uh yeah, I mean you know is part yes? Ye yes,
I I I certainly think that, uh, that he's done.
When when you say, okay, what could be a reasonable expectation,
you know it's not you know, carry out the the
golf and geran it's not a parts or excuse me,
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not a birdie. It's not an eagle. You know that
you would have had to have beaten you know, quality
teams along the way.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
By the way, you do realize it for hacks like
me that par is very very good, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Okay, I mean you're sitting here talking about PARR like
I turned that down.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, good god. All right, Hey, Huey, let's do this.
We're gonna break. We'll do some texts next segment, and
then Rich Gahan in the two thousand and two NFL
mvp UH former broadcast partner of Kevin Harlan. By the way,
as well, he'll join us coming up with five on
ninety three three kJ A RFM
Alright, he went for Nick Fane, Jackson's back and the
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producer's booth. After spending a week on a Mexican cruise
panning that hairy body of his, the Caribbean, Son.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Lots of alcohol, so I got the drink package.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh boys, it's funny. I wasn't even in a cruise
and I had to drink package last week.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Man, So dude, you missed the greatest thing off game
about that.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
So it's funny actually, because I what we did is
the cruise ended on Thursday morning, right, and then we
rented a car and drove from Long Beach, California over
to my sister's place in Phoenix. We get to Phoenix
in the middle of the third quarter. Man, and I
at that point, I just I don't understand this. We
don't need to watch it, you know, it's just what happened.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And then with about two minutes ago, my brother in
law says Jackson, I got a Christmas gift for you,
and he takes me into the living room and then it's.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Just absolute pandemonia, dude, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Well, we've gone from thinking they got a shot to
win the Super Bowl to thinking they have a shot
to win the Super Bowl after that game with the
Rams on Sunday, So w't chat more about that verse Thursday.
What chat more about that coming up? But hughes in
for Dick, Hugh, I want to continue the DK metcalf
conversation for a little bit because, again, just so people know,
I think that there's too many times in this business
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where we don't try and see at least another side
of a story, right, And I agree with your take
that you had last segment. There's no excuse for what
DK Metcalf did. It's horrible for the league, horrible for
the relationship between the NFL and the fans. It leads
to horrible, horrific things when players put their hands on fans.
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No matter what's being said, you can't do it top
of the mountain. Totally agree with you. But I threw
this out on Twitter seven hours ago, and by the way,
most people agree with you, Hugh that the answer is no,
there's nothing a fan can say. I said, simply put,
doesn't matter at all what the fan in Detroit said
to DK Metcalf or is DK one hundred percent and
they're wrong no matter what. And I would just like
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to offer a little bit of context to the story
that Brady Henderson, who works for ESPN, you know, Brady,
obviously Hugh Sure is reporting that DKAY reported this guy,
this fan, this Ryan Kennedy kid to Seattle team security
in the past, a source confirmed to ESPN's Brady Henderson.
The Seahawks played at Detroit in twenty twenty two, twenty
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twenty three, in twenty twenty four. So again, agree with
you in general terms. Mostly in every term, I agree
with you. I would love to know, though, a little
more context as to what dkay's issues have been with
this guy in the past, what he said to him,
and why he was allowed in the stadium in the
first place, if he's been reported by DKA on three
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different occasions to Seahawks security.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Yeah, well, I still don't know if you presented as
a dispute to my take. You've you're challenging me to
think about it, but you're not taking that take. I'll
say this, what you're suggesting, I'll take my interpretation of
what you said. You're you're in essence saying, are are
there fighting words?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (03:05):
And I believe the answer to that is yes, there
are fighting words. But the context matters. If you're in
a parking lot, or let's say you're playing some some
pickup hoop on the black top and you you know,
you come as a white person, you come up to
a black guy, and you use the N word in
almost any context, use the N word, You deserve what's
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coming to you. But let's but, but let's let's just
talk about a couple I'll say two contexts.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
One, let's suppose take.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Thurgood Marshall, the first black Supreme Court justice in the
United States history. Suppose he was walking up the court
steps and somebody from the street yelled the N word
at him. Is that is that any different? Is there
any Is there any point where you'd say, listen, that
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that is totally inappropriate, usable what what was just said
to you? It's it's evil, it's provocative. They are fighting words.
But given who you are and your environment, you can't respond.
So and obviously we could think of others. Well, I
would say this, if you're a professional athlete, I'm sorry,
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you can't do it. And and so the remedy is
this DK did what he was supposed to do and
report it. This is this is a breakdown in the
security at Detroit. It's it's it's coincidental that we're talking
about that you reference the basketball melee that also happened
in Detroit. Right, So if the if, if this becomes
an issue, the remedy would be relatively simple. On row one,
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seat one of about three or four aisles behind the
visiting bench, there is a guard, right, and and if
a player feels like he's provoked in a way that
crosses the line, they they the players would be instructed
to to, you know, kind of point at that security
guy that you know is in row one, and then
you point here and and but here's the deal. Even
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you know, if DK, let's say, the worst possible thing
you could imagine was uttered the DKA. From a pragmatic standpoint,
how do you legend now all of a sudden, if
you say, oh, it's okay that DK had that response,
how are you gonna legislate the next one? Are we
gonna have some sliding deal? Are we gonna have a chart,
and says, well, well, if if they call you the
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N word and the blah blah blah, that that's okay
you can punch. But if they just call you a bitch,
then then no, that's that's not warranting a punch like, Yeah,
the pragmatism just overwhelms any any type of defense of that.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So can I agree with that? I totally agree with that.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I mean, I'm not I'm not disputing that whatsoever I
got I guess, I guess My point is this is
that I'm not sitting here and trying to come up
with some excuse for DK Metcalf to walk over and
slug the guy.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
That's not what I'm saying to you. Whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
What I'm saying and you kind of hinted at it
right there, is that I think because of the history
with this guy, and again not knowing the context of
DK or the fans, the history with this fan and
DK Metcalf, whatever has been, whatever's gone down the previous
three years, I have no idea what it is. Because
of the potential context that's missing, I think there's room
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in this story to criticize NFL security and their culpability
in this situation becoming what it became. That would be
an angle on this story that I would approach, and
I mean, god, I would almost have DK Metcalf go
to Mike Tomlin during the game and say Hey, man,
this guy's back, This freaking idiot's back.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
What do you want me to do?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
And then Mike Tomlin goes to his guys and said,
get him the hell out of here. Get that guy
out of here, get him away from our bench. He's
got no right to be here. I want him gone.
So I don't know what was said on what was done,
but it seems to me that there's a possibility that
DK Metcalf, even though he's got a little bit of
a history of being a hothead, may have been pushed
too far by this guy, and that NFL security could
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have done a better job in diffusing this situation before
it got to what it was yesterday.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
That have security every team I was on.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
You have security that travels, even if you only had
three guys that were the buffer. Let's say, here's the
process and the players you could have, Like, we have
a lot of meetings in the offseason training camp regarding
you know, hey, you better not gamble, you know, be
careful of fraud. And they come in and they give
us all these examples of how athletes have been defrauded
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or roof feed in and blackmail because you got you know,
naked pictures of yourself or you know, like there's all
kinds of warnings that we get, so one of them
could be listen, Yeah, if you have if you're the
victim of inappropriate fan interaction, if you had two or
three security members, you know, right kind of right behind
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your bench, you go to your own teams secure the
Pittsburgh guy. And then you have a couple of as
I said, row one, seat one, four or five security
guards that are in the stands. And so now your
security is the is the liaison, the proxy to go over.
And then now all of a sudden, it's out of
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DK's hands.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
He said.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
He says to his own security guy, look that I
know that guy. He's done it before, he's crossing the line.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
And then that.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Pittsburgh guy immediately goes over to the guy that the
garden the bench. I mean, we're talking about listening to
ten people.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
No, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And this is all and this is all dependent on
the idea that this guy was yelling things at DK
Metcalf that he shouldn't be yelling. I mean, if none
of that is true, then forget it. I mean, it's
just you move on. You go to your side of
the argument, and it's done whatever. I mean, there's videos
coming out that are talking about how this guy was
calling him by his given name right to Kaelin obviously,
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and that was irritating the hell out of him. I
don't know if any of that stuff was being said.
That's what came metcalfis you just said yes.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
I think you qualified. You said.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
If we find out that it wasn't said, then forget
about it. My position is.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I wouldn't even have the conversation with you. That's my point.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I'm only asking you, does it matter what the fans
said based on the idea that there were some racial
overtones coming out of his mouth. That's the only reason
why I'm having that conversation with you. If this guy
called this dude the N word or called his mom
to see you next Tuesday. I'm asking you, does it
matter under those circumstances at all what came out of
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this fan's mouth.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Your answer is no.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
My reaction is unless that was the case, I wouldn't
even be asking you that. If this guy's just cat
calling a DK, you're a bum whatever. I'm not asking
you about that. Of course, I'm not asking about.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
That Okay, I understand what you said.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
So we're obviously talking about the height the worst things
that a fan could say to an athlete, right, correct?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Correct?
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Oh, yes, all right, Absolutely, what I'm saying is what.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
If he threatened to kill the guy in the parking
lot when the game is over? I mean, honestly, like
I'm just again, you have security, you have security, and
I and I again, I absolutely I think generally and
more than generally agree with you.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah, it's just the conversation.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I just think it's worth asking is there anything a
fan can say that would justify anything that DK METCF
did And if the answer is absolutely not, I see it.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I see your point.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Is there anything this guy could have said harassing him
for multiple seasons, multiple years that would have led to
anybody human being Maleman, pizza delivery boy, talk show host,
or athlete snapping the way he did yesterday.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Well, as a fan of the game, I would have
a different Yeah, I would have. I would say that
if he's called the N word, there's more justification to
throw the punch than if he called him by his
first name. And he doesn't like to be called by
his first name, So yes, there is a scale that
we can say, hey, this type of harassing a professional
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athlete is worse than that kind. Obviously, stealing a automobile
is worse than stealing a candy bar. So so yes,
of course there's a scale there. But what I'm saying
is is even stealing autimbles, there's no justification whatsoever for
what Metcalf did that.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Nope, no, sorry, No, I get it. Solved it another way.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
That's not the athlete's job to be at police fan conduct.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I get it, and I am and again for the
most part, ninety nine point nine nine percent in agreement
with you. There's a little small sliver of me that
wants to hear more about what les.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Well, Hey, if he used the N word, there's more
than a sliver than me that DK at six four five.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
I'd like him to knock him out. I'd like him
to go Mike Tyson.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
So then you would say, you're would saying me, don't
do that, the suspension warranted, but good for you.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
No, I wouldn't say good for you. I say you
can't do it.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I would like, yeah, no, there there's a side. There's
a compartment in me that that sure I would say, hey,
knock his teeth out right. But but then there are
the superseding. That reaction is the reaction of saying, what
do we have if we have a professional sports environment.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Yeah we're yeah, where athletes are doing this. It's just
it's not it's.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Not remotely feasible to uh to uh administer this. So no, no.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Well, it's just I mean, look, it's a sad situation
all around. It's a bad look for DK obviously, a
bad look for this guy, bad look for the NFL,
bad look for Pittsburgh, bad look for ford Field, all
of that, right, I mean, nothing good obviously happens out
of this unless you're the Cleveland Browns and you're playing
the Steelers next week and.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Not having a face DK Metcalf. Those are the winners.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
That's the team that wins as whoever gets the Pittsburgh
in the next two weeks and doesn't have to face
DK Metcalf because he's been popped for a couple of games.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So all right, here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Rich gannon right, Hugh, the two thousand and two NFL
MVP who played in Super Bowl thirty seven. I believe
it was with the Raiders against John Gruden and the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers in that defense. Maybe he sees some
similarities in that Tampa Bay defense that he saw in
that game to what we're seeing right now in Seattle
with the Seahawks and their phenomenal defense. So rich Gannon,
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coming up at around five o'clock tonight, you missed, Michael Pennex,
We're gonna play that for you again, coming up at six.
We got the Hawks in Carolina. We got the Niners
and Colts in a massive game tonight in Indy. There's
still a shot a chance if the Seahawks could finish
third in the NFC West and end up as the
seventh seed.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
In the NFC playoffs. We'll talk about that.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Michigan has still not hired a head coach, by the way,
almost two weeks after Sharon Moore got fired. We'll get
to all of that and more. Softy Dick Jackson, Dick
is out, hum Millon's in for Dick. As we continue
on a busy Monday, Don't forget we got Husky basketball
over on nine fifty am at seven o'clock against San Diego,
and the Colt Niner game is over on ten ninety
(14:13):
with kickoff at five point fifteen from Indie and now
we're gonna break more with Humillon next on ninety three
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Speaker 4 (14:22):
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Speaker 3 (14:36):
Alright, boys and girls, Heavy Monday.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Rich Cannon two thousand and two NFL MVP will join
us coming up at five o'clock tonight.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Hum Mellon's in for Dick.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Fane Cracking Ducks coming up pregame six thirty Face Off seven,
Michael Pennox in the six pm hour as well.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Michael Benton will join us or is it ever tonight?
Remind me againon's doing playoff play. He'll join us at six.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
There you go, We'll get to Mikey's thoughts on the
Mason march Mint trade that happened in the last few days.
Brandon Montour is now out with a hand injury, and
the Kraken are falling, falling further down the ladder in
the NHL, now tied for the worst record in the league.
So I say they've hit bottom and now it's time
to bounce back up. They got to win over the weekend.
(15:17):
We'll see if they can make a two in a
row tonight at the Ducks. H Mellon rejoins us you.
We'll get some text for you coming up at four nine,
four or five to one in the next segment, looking
forward to our conversation where Rich Gannon at five pm,
the former NFL MVP. But I'm sitting here almost two
weeks from the day that Sharad Moore was fired by
Michigan and the Wolverines still don't have a football coach.
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And you know a lot of people were keeping an
eye on what Caitlyn de Bor was gonna do. That
Maybe if Kaitlin had lost to Oklahoma, Michigan would make
a run at him, but he's obviously busy. They won't
be able to get their hands on him until at
least after New Year's Day. I know Biff Poggy is
it Pogy or Poggy by the way, the interim guy
at Michigan Poggy. Okay, Biff Pogy has said he is
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in viewed now a couple of times for the head
coaching job at Michigan.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I don't remember who it was.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
It may have been new heisl who was on the
show with us about a week and a half ago,
Hugh and said, you know what, Michigan may let this
biff guy coach the football team for a year, let
the investigation go by, let everything settle down, and then
go out and take a big swing at somebody next
off season.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
So that certainly is a possibility.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
But the longer the job stays open and every day
it's still vacant, Jedfish's JOT name is still attached to
that possibility. Over at Michigan. There's a report, I don't
know if you saw this or not, Hugh a couple
of days ago, that Jed had been taken off the list.
There were some red flags that came up in the
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investigative process, I guess the discovery process looking at his background.
Nothing crazy, nothing, you know, nefarious or anything. But somebody
I think wrote that his ties to Harbaugh and has
ties to Connor Stallion's been a turn off for the Wolverines.
I don't know what that was all about, but that
was one thing I read. So the Jetfish to Michigan thing,
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can we kind of drop it? Can we officially drop it?
Or is it still very much, in your mind an issue.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Well, I think it's an issue until there's a new
coach at Michigan and maybe Poggy and and there's some
prudence to that that idea by Rick right suggesting I
think I had read that maybe the background check led
them to the Wolverines, to the Delora situation involving a
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high school, you know, rape allegation. You know, I don't
know any sort of details on that, but that may
have been something. I mean, if you're Michigan right now,
they may be fed up. Think of how proud that
institution is with respect to their academic and athletic accomplishments.
You know, they probably be a lot of factions within them.
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I would think would be saying enough, as enough, we
got to get somebody squeaky clean and so so maybe
if there's just one little mark on you, then.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Mean even if you coach Jaden DeLaura, for some people,
that might be enough to say no.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Well, I think there's I think there's he he fish uh,
you know, presented a defense of Dolaura regarding what had
taken place, and and maybe that could be off putting.
I don't wanna get over my skis on this because
I didn't you know, it's it's a pretty serious nature.
And if I don't have my ducks in a row
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on that, I'm just saying, you know, google it, read it.
I'm not in a position to give you great details.
I'll concur with what you I've read also that that
that he's been flagged in that process. But you know,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna stand on business on
on what it was. I will say say this, I
can present these facts. There's a comment you can you
(18:55):
can gauge the credibility of a man named Ben Dogra.
Ben Dagra was a co head of Creative Art Agency,
a sports agency and you'll you'll know these names, Dave
uh co head with Tom Condon if you can remember him, Yeah,
you know for a number of years the you know,
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Peyton Mann and Eli Man and you know and all
the rest, the number one agent and all of it
the NFL, and also co head with Jimmy Sexton. If
you're a football fan, you know Jimmy Sexton and he's
you know, he's got Nick Saban, Kaylen de Bors, Steve
Sarkes and Langkiff and James Franklin Kirby Smart seven of
the top ten paid highest paid coaches in college football.
(19:39):
So Sexton and Condon worked with Dogra at the Creative
Art Agency, got it. And Ben Dagra I'm gonna give
you a code in a second. But one more piece here,
Ben dagera by the sport uh Sports Business Journal, they
ranked Ben Dagra the number six most powerful sports agent.
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I mean when he had represented at RG three and
Adrian Peterson and many others. But here's what Ben Dogra
was quoted as saying. This is from Newsweek magazine last week.
All right, I mean the regular news Week Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
this is quote. I know for a fact that he
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meaning Fish. I know for a fact that Fish has
been looking for another job. He wanted the floor to job,
did not get it, and he's very, very very interested
in the Michigan job.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
End quote.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
So that is certainly, at the very least a conversation
piece for Husky fans.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I don't have any doubt that Jedfish is interested in
the Michigan job. I'm also interested when I was sixteen
years old in dating Bo Derek.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
It's a very apt analogy. We understand. You feel there's
got to be two You got to be two parties. Yes,
I'm with you, I'm tracking right along with you. But
I do think it's a news story at now he
said or not. I'm not saying that that it's facts.
The only thing I'm saying is that it's a fact
that Newsweek reported this quote and and and the other
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part that is at least worth a conversation for Husky
sitting around having a beer is he says, I know
for a fact that he's been looking for another job. Now,
those are the words. I don't know what that means.
You know that that implies something beyond oh, I want
the Florida job and I want the Michigan job. Those
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are extremely high profile jobs and for Jedfish and of
Florida alum, very understandable. In Michigan, you don't have to
say anything any you know, Michigan is one of the
obviously one of the top jobs.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
In college football.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
But the comment I know for a fact that he's
been looking for another job, well, does he just mean
those two ors?
Speaker 6 (21:56):
You know? So at any event, Yeah, I think that's
a story.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Yeah, if you know, and people say, well, why is
Jetfish's name keep circulating?
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Well, you know what it's from. As for reasons like
this and that quote.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Sure, yeah, And I don't you know what, I don't
want to speak for all of Husky Nation or Husky fans.
I mean, speaking for anybody but yourself is actually kind
of ridiculous. Like a lot of people in this business
will say things like, I don't want to speak for
anybody else. Well, you can't really unless you're talking for
your kids or whatever. Man you're speaking for your wife.
I mean, you got one mouth and one brain and
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one opinion for crying out loud. But I get the feeling, Hugh,
and maybe Jackson you agree also, And maybe Hugh you're
tracking with me on this that most Husky fans don't
look at Jed as a long, long term answer at Washington,
Like Caitlin de Boorr, we had the conversation when he
was here, the words the next.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Don James would come up.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I don't think anybody's thinking that at all about Jetfish.
So the fact that he's got interest in this job
or interest in that job, none of that is surprising
to me what soever. I think I think the story
really becomes what other schools have interest in him?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
That's the story.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, right, because it's one of those kind of it's
the tweeter, right, he isn't a coach that has big
enough success a lah Klen de Bord to go to
a bigger program, but he's also not bad enough to
get fired from you dubbin. And then you know, you
wonder kind of in this realm, like what does Jedfish's
future look like?
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Right?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
You know, does he do well enough with demand next
year where he could go get a larger Michigan esque job,
But if he just continues to be nine to four
ish with us, like that's no, I don't think a
bigger school than the University of Washington's gonna go after him.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
It's a weird spot.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
It wasn't that kind of I mean, do you kind
of agree with that that the story, the the the
curiosity here is no longer does Jedfish have interest in
other jobs?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
It's what schools have interest in him?
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Yeah, yeah, because well, look it's a say news story,
but it's it's a story that's relevant a Husky football
fans and the and the foot Husky Football network in
the Husky football community. If the head coach of the
University of Washington is somewhat actively seeking other jobs. That's
a story. Whether he gets them or not, that's a story.
(24:15):
I mean, if if we were hearing all the time,
if if sports agents were saying, I know for a
fact that Don James wanted to get the Ohio State job,
and that he wanted to get the LSU job whatever,
you know, like, Okay, that's a story. He didn't get it,
but it's still a story. And and by the way,
I think you know, just uh, you're you're comment about
(24:38):
what your you can always speak to your sense.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah, that's why I say yours.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Like like people say, well, what are the Huskies you know,
you're you're eighty four team. I say, I'm not gonna
speak for my teammates, we had over one hundred of them.
I can speak to my own sense of what the
co you know, general feeling was in the locker room.
But I'm not gonna speak for my teammates with Washington
or the Patriots whatever. But I can't speak to my sense.
And so you can speak to your sense of what
(25:03):
the majority of Husky you know, the majority of Husky
fans feel.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Right, Yeah, we're.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Obviously we're not in anybody's hands. But you can speak
to your sense about that well, and that's the way
I agree with you. It's a semantics yeah, it's a
semantics distinction, but I think it's an important distinction, and
so so I would agree with you my sense of
majority of Husky fans there, they tend they're their realists
about him. Yeah, and uh, you know, hey, this year's
(25:28):
you know, if you're graphing, hey, things things are on
the incline is better than last year. He had a
good recruiting class, and so uh a question.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Can I ask you a question real quick because we got
like a minute left?
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Please?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Do you think Jed's done a good job in the
two years he's been here, given the context of what
he inherited?
Speaker 5 (25:47):
I think he's done part. I think he's done part yes,
Uh yeah, I mean you know is part yes? Ye yes,
I I I certainly think that, uh, that he's done.
When when you say, okay, what could be a reasonable expectation,
you know it's not you know, carry out the the
golf and geran it's not a parts or excuse me,
(26:08):
not a birdie. It's not an eagle. You know that
you would have had to have beaten you know, quality
teams along the way.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
By the way, you do realize it for hacks like
me that par is very very good, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Okay, I mean you're sitting here talking about PARR like
I turned that down.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, good god. All right, Hey, Huey, let's do this.
We're gonna break. We'll do some texts next segment, and
then Rich Gahan in the two thousand and two NFL
mvp UH former broadcast partner of Kevin Harlan. By the way,
as well, he'll join us coming up with five on
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