December 3, 2025 • 28 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler chats with Petros Papadakis about Jedd Fisch and the season for UW, plus Lane Kiffin going from Ole Miss to LSU and what Indiana football has done, then Dick Fain rejoins to discuss the 2025 year for Huskies football.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for our weekly conversation with college football analysts
Petros Papadekas.
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
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Speaker 5 (00:35):
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
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Speaker 5 (00:43):
Hans to talk to one of the most sought after
sports radio guests the industry has to offer. Producers knocking
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Our friend and one half of the legendary Petros and
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(01:31):
a nice conversation with your wife yesterday.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Oh that's cool.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Did you hear about that?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Nope, she didn't tell you. No, God, I would have
thought she would have told you. She didn't caught her
up on the telephone.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Okay, y'ao.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I spoke for a while. I didn't know if you
would have called her on the telegraph.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Or teams, meaning, yeah, I could have zumed her face
time or whatever. That would have been weird video call
from Softy coming in coming in hot.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, I'm glad that you were able to deal with it.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, that was great.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
We had a little administrative thing we had to take
care of, and you know, we took care of it.
So I'm trying to figure out who runs that family
down there, because she's got as much personality if not
more than you do.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Bell, Well, I don't do much.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I'm just here with you, just sitting and wait for
our call every Wednesday. I just ordered some crickets on
door Dash and some worms for a lizard.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
And I got to pick my daughter up from soccer
a little later, and my son is laying on a
blanket watching a YouTuber in the living room. USC is
down two to nothing to Oregon. Okay at the matt
yep yea, and the world keeps on turning Softy. It
looks like your coach is going to stay in Seattle. Yeah,
(02:46):
even though the family loves Tucson.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Yeah, well, Tucson's got a guy and he's having a
hell of a year.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yes he is. I'm very proud of Brent Brennan.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
They're ranked, They're nine to three.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
I saw where our friends over at West coach Football,
reminding everybody that Michigan you Dub played for the national
championship two years ago, and now both of them are
ranked behind Arizona, who lost their head coach to U
DUB after their coach took off for Alabama. So I
don't know, man, I mean, you tell us right. You're
always the voice of reason on this radio show. What
(03:18):
should our thoughts be on Jed Fish? How would you
characterize the first two years for this guy?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Well, I don't think it's been a failure. Yeah, so
you got that going for you.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Hey, at minimum we had it hasn't been a total
freaking disaster, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Go.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
But I think the comp for Washington, especially with the
joining of the Big Ten and the two years ago
what happened with Kaylin de boor the comparison is with Oregon,
and Oregon is going to the playoff and that's the
second year in a row they're going to the playoff.
Even though they got wiped out early last year. It
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kind of became an afterthought most all the teams with
the first round I did, so I think that it's
not enough. I think Washington football got a taste of
what it's like at the top, and don't I never
thought Jedfish was the coach to keep you there. And
(04:17):
not to say that he's a bad coach, not to
say that he hasn't had a lot of success, not
to say what he did in Arizona wasn't really commendable.
I mean it's kind of interesting. It's like Bronco menden
Hall when he turned around New Mexico last year with
the Dan Pierre quarterback who's at Utah now, and Bronco
menden Hall turned New Mexico around to where they won
(04:39):
like five games, and that was unheard of in New
Mexico in the last twenty thirty years. They've had a
really bad run of things. And they were in euphoria
just because they won some home games and everybody's like,
my god, look at this Bronco menden Hall, look what
he can do. And then the next one game at home, seriously,
(05:02):
it was that bad charge. Yeah, and the next thing
you know, here comes this guy, Jason Eck and he
brings a bunch of people from the FCS Idaho of
all places, and and that's very close to everybody's heart
in Seattle because of its proximity to Pullman and all
of that. And he brings a quarterback, his son, a back,
(05:26):
a couple other team leaders, a bunch of FCS guys,
and they went a four way tie for the Mountain
West and have they're they're filling the stadium and storm
in the field every week. So it's kind of like,
oh my god, this can get better and better, And
I think that didn't happen at Right, like Signetti left
(05:47):
James Madison and the next guy, Bob Chesney did really
well too, and now he's at UCLA. That didn't happen
at Washington. Jedfish, what is that funny?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Because it didn't.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Why wouldn't you follow that up with that chuckle?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well? I think.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
That the stakes are higher, right because your your competition
is tougher, of course than some of the examples the
Sun Belt in the Mountain West that I just gave you.
But nobody at the Washington World, especially you, wants to
hear that. You guys want to be competitive in every game.
Of course, you don't want to go to Michigan and
(06:30):
get your doors blown off and be like, well, you know,
that's what we expected, or the same thing.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Nobody expected that with Ohio State. Nobody did. We thought
they'd be in every game they play this year, including
Ohio State, of course.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
And it didn't happen, and it didn't happen against Oregon,
and maybe the quarterback mature is one more year. A
word that we use now in football more than we
use recruiting is retention. You have to retain the players
if you want them. A lot of guys that transfer
people don't realize or I guess people don't factor in,
(07:04):
are asked to leave because somebody else better or presumably better.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Right is coming in.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
And that phenomenon has been happening forever in college football.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
But I think Fish, I think Fish is like I
thought he was gonna be, which is just okay, and
that's not good enough. Washington needs to be like Oregon.
And I don't know, they're just not right. They're not
quite there, but I think they're closer to USC if
it's any consolation.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Yeah, not really, But I understand what you're talking about.
I mean there is some context there. Excuse me about
taking over, you know, something that got blown to bits
eighteen months ago, but you know that context for me
is now over. I mean it's time to win, right.
You get a year, a couple of years to kind
of rebuild the thing. And I mean you fell short.
The Wisconsin loss obviously was was a pisser. Uh never
(07:51):
should have happened. You should have been a ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I can tell you that great information about the Civil War,
and can't randle mad want the trip right.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
PC's just totally different vibe when I was out there
knowing what I know. You know, going into that stadium
having that background just changed the whole environment for me.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
But that's why I do what I do.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Yeah, thank you well about people are gotta wonder all
the time why you're here and justifies it right there
with that education that you gave us. But Petros is
with us. I do want to ask you about Oregon
and the coaches that are losing. In a second, I
do want to ask you about the Big Ten Championship,
but I got to make sure we get this in. Dude,
you know him. You covered him at USC. I'm sure
you've had him on your show a million damn times.
(08:32):
Lane Kiffin, Yes, talk to us about this decision he
made to quit and all miss before the playoff.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
There's a lot of weirdness here right. First of all,
I've known Lane Kiffin since two thousand and one when
he was the tight end coach for Pete Carroll and
he was like a red faced guy screaming and yelling
at the scout team, holding up the play card for
the scout team to look at and give the starters
(09:02):
a look, and just mother effing everybody. And I thought
the same thing I think every time I look at
him now on TV, which is what an enormous doucheband?
He is a pretty big douche. And I've listened. I've
seen Lane kiffen in all the compromising places that you
(09:25):
read about on Twitter and back and forth. And I
know more about Lane Kiffin than I want compromising points
because it was a time of a lack of institutional
control at USC.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
That's why.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
And my father did the recruiting through the restaurant. That's
why got it. Anyway, if you if you watch Lane
Kiffin on TV and you think he's a douche, you're right.
I've known him since two thousand and one. Now does
that mean he can't put together a football team and
call plays? No, that does not mean it. But when
somebody and you know, a few of these things aren't
(09:58):
really fair. I mean, and it's first of all, it's
really hard to get fired in September. I mean, it
used to be really hard, and Lane got fired in
September twice by the Raiders and by USC. But the
Al Davis overhead thing, is that really Lane's fault? That
Al Davis is a crazy old man? No, I mean
I get it. He was dysfunctional there, like he is
(10:21):
everywhere and has a terrible exit and leaves a trail
of half confirmed nefarious stories.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
But he was like thirty years old, right.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Right, Well whatever, But I mean shame on them for
hiring him because he's a douche. But you can't really
blame him for the overhead thing with Al Davis, And
you can't really blame him for getting fired on the tarmac.
The stupid USC donors and Pat Hayden did that. I mean,
they created that mythology. Why did he have to be
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fired on the tarmac. Why couldn't he be fired at
his office or the next day at the athletic departments building. Well,
I mean, why why did that have to become this
huge story? Well because some donor told you and Pat
Hayden's an idiot, and they created this whole story, this
legend of a coach being fired on a tarmac and
(11:14):
USC being so terrible that they had to fire their coach.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
At the at the airport for charters.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
It's just that's stupid, that's not Yeah, he was really
bad at SE and some huge donor who's now no
longer with us, who gave USC like one hundred million
dollars literally said no more, I want him fired right now.
I don't want him on the bus or whatever. So
USC did his bidding and fired Lane Kiffin. And yeah,
that's on Lane, I guess for underperforming. But he didn't
(11:44):
have to be fired on a tarmac. Now what he
did at tennessee what he's done here at the Old
Miss situation and going back and forth, that's all on Lane.
The gross part about this, and it really seeps into
the college football Playoff and everything else that we're covering
(12:05):
when it comes to the sport kind of this week
and ever since they fired James Franklin is ESPN, especially
when it comes to Old Miss in the SEC, and
this Lane Kiffin story is talking out of both sides
of their mouth. Everybody's talking and consulting with him behind
the scenes, like Nick Saban. They own the SEC, they
(12:29):
own the playoff. They're begging on air for him to
be able to coach in the playoff.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Right, and which would have been ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Well, all of it's ridiculous, and it is.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I'm not surprised that Lane Kiffin is in bed with
a bunch of people from ESPN I'm not surprised about anything.
It's just gross to see it laid so bare in
front of us and everybody just says, hey, great, look
at how many clicks we got. It's just a really
ugly situation. And if you expect Lane Kiffin to handle
something poorly, it means you've probably met Lane Kiffin. I
(13:07):
don't know. I don't know what's going to happen at LSU.
I know he'll have a lot of financial resources and
maybe they could have some success, but I don't think
it's going to be like they're going to bring him
back in thirty years like Howard Schnellenberger and honor him right,
because he just doesn't seem to be able to sustain
(13:30):
relationships past the hot shot play caller. There's always someplace
better place. I would expect him to go to the
NFL next. And if he has any success at LSU,
or even not success, oh god. So I'm just imagining
if he ever became the head coach of the Seahawks
and we have this clip.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Calling Lane Kiffin a giant touchbag.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Well, am I really out on a limb there?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I know I trust your judgment on him more than
anybody honestly. I mean you said there were some compromising
situations he was in.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Can you share one? Willis?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
No? What?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
What? What are you talking about? What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
What am I talking about?
Speaker 6 (14:11):
What?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Have you ever been one to whole person?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
If you told us your dad was gonna hide OJ
in the walk infrigerator, that's true too.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Okay, come on, man, you.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Got Let's just say a lot of the stuff you
see on Twitter, Yeah, it's it's not. I don't look
at that and be like, oh, I don't believe that.
You know, knowing the situation and knowing the guy, there's
a lot I see on Twitter that I believe. Well,
Petros is with US Big Ten Championship is coming up
on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
You may have seen India.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I saw him.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Dressed like a big chicken, like the San Diego chicken,
with a huge space cutout whereas genitals were He's running
around Shut up, you did not, No, I'm he was
running around like the.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Oh god, dude, I got that image.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I played Kimma ware in a San Diego Somebody's probably
seen him do that.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well, there's nuts. I could totally see it.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Oh god, all right, Well whatever, I don't know this
Big Ten Championship coming up Saturday.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
You think Indiana, I mean, maybe Indiana cars are that
Ohio state. You don't even know what I'm gonna ask you.
What am I gonna ask you?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Do you think Indiana can beat a High No.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
That's not what I'm gonna ask you at all.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Actually, I think they want to win the game more
than the Buck guys do, or winning the Big Ten
would mean more to them. If you went to Ryan
Day and maybe even Signetti and said, hey, you're both
in the playoff, you can skip this game and just
call it a tie and not even playing the damn thing?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Would they agree to that?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You think? I don't know. I don't know. I mean,
I think we're coming to the end.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
We're starting to realize that we don't well, first of all,
we're realizing we don't need a playoff committee. And second
we're realizing that we're realizing that we don't really need
the conference championship. And so that's kind of part of
this and it's awkward and everybody's still trying to figure
that out. But I think you're right. Probably Indiana has
more motivation because of Big Ten championship. I mean, that's
(16:15):
the I think I've said this on the show, but
to me watching football, and it was when I was
between leaving cal and going to USC that Northwestern won
the role or didn't win the Rose Bowl, but Gary
Barnett took him to the Rose Bowl, which at that
point was one of the most unheard of crazy things
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in the history of football. Yeah, and they lost to
Kyshawn Johnson's team, but they had Steve Schner and Darnell
Autry and Pat Fitzgerald was a mic backer on that team,
and that was a miracle. And I came to know
Gary Barnett later through broadcasting and really came to like
him and was always just marvel at what he did
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at Northway Western. What's happening in Indiana in the modern
times is dwarfing, that I mean, and it's getting a
lot of people fired. Because if Kurt Signetty can turn
around Indiana in a month with a bunch of guys
from the Sun Belt, then what the hell is anybody
else doing? Jed Fish, Lincoln Riley, Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Smith, I mean, what are you doing? So it's a very.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Interesting thing, and I think what Indiana has accomplished will
go down in history. I mean I know we're in
a different age and it's parody. And Indiana is an
institution that has a lot of money, but they hiring
a guy from the sun Belt and he brings in
a bunch of Sun Belt coaches and players and just
starts running the Big ten. Is pretty amazing. Yeah, and
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and that needs to be that needs to be lauded,
whether they beat Ohio State or not. But yeah, I
think that's I'm interested. You see Indiana and Ferdie Mendoza,
who we all watch play at Cow. So that's what
makes it interesting. We've all seen Ohio State perform on
you see him in the play.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Well, we got Crowning, I know you got a run.
We got Mick Cron and your buddy in town the
night taking on the dogs seven three like it.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But he still wears a suit. I do too.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
I was just remarking to Dick a couple of days
ago that I wish more coaches did that.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
No, they all look everybody looks like what they are
big slobs. Don't deserve everybody who dressed like they really are.
They're big slobs that don't deserve the paycheck.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Hey, you want to really do something bold, go put
that Lane, Kiff and Chicken outfit on and cut a
hole out where you're junk is.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Wear that to a game? Yeah, with some turf shoes.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I get him talking, all right, Grayson team issued turf shoes.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
We're talking a week buddy. All right, well done, see
him man the shoe Spopinokas.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Grab your DUTs with us on the show.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Kevin Harlan coming up at five three.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
You know, Kevin Hurlim, Cool of the game.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
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Speaker 3 (19:16):
Hi, Kevin Harlan's coming up.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
You heard.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Petro's excited for the visit with Kevin Harlan. He's back
after a week off. He actually took two weeks off.
You guys noticed that, by the way, took two weeks
off from radio, TV to the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Got a little bit of a break.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
You know, he's busting his ass man working for Amazon
during the NBA season and CBS for TV, Westwood One
on radio on Monday nights, and then he turns around
and he does it all for CBS and the NCAA
tournament coming up in March.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I mean, the guy's a machine man, He.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Is a machine.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
Can I Can I just bring one thing up that
you talked to Petros about?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I want to sure. I want to make sure bring.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Two things up if you want, go ahead. You want
to talk about Lane Kiffin's nuts? Is that what you
were talking about? Hanging out him his chicken suit?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Not that?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Did he claim that the Huskies were not competitive against
Ohio State, Oregon in Michigan?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
I don't remember did he say that. I would say
they were competitive against Oregon. I don't think they were
competitive against Michigan, especially in the second half. They got
run over by them in the second half. The Ohio State.
I mean, you and I have debated that before, right,
what that really looks like? I mean, let's face it, Dick,
the offense didn't show up in any of those games.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
No, No, they did.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
I'm totally I'm totally in agreement. But I think the
defense kept them in all three games. And so and
I've seen this. I've seen this a lot of places.
I've seen Wilner talk about it. Just like there's this
perception out there that if you didn't watch any of
those games, that the Huskies just got dominated in all
three games. And I just I went to two of them, okay,
(20:54):
and I didn't see that.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Yeah, well, I would just say this, you do you,
God bless you. I am going to tell you right
now that I'm not going to sit here and debate
three losses and try to find some silver lining of
whether or not the Huskies got overrun, got dominated, or
(21:16):
were competitive. They lost all three and the offense was
horrific in every single one they played.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
That's what I saw. Did I see a defense that
was pretty good? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
I also saw an Ohio State football team that knew
that their defense was not going to allow the Dogs
to score a point right in that game, and that
may have influenced their quarter and a rookie quarterback who
got a lot better as the year went on, by
the way, after that game. But I mean, do we
take solas I guess in that that I mean they
lost twenty four to six, They lost twenty four to seven,
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and they lost twenty six to fourteen. I think the
Oregon game of all three of them, the Oregon game
was one that was the closest.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Yes, Yes, I would agree with that, And I just
think that, you know, these I think I'm comparing them.
I'm spending so much time maybe comparing him to what
happened last year, right, because last year every time we
played a good degree, yeah we got smashed.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Well, I mean they're closing the gap, right, If that's
what you're getting at. I think you're technically correct, yes,
that they are closing the gap between them and those
other teams. I mean, Iowa kicked their ass, Indiana kicked
their ass, Penn State kicked their ass, and Oregon kicked
their ass.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Those were true ass gass kickings.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
But the Buckeye game, they were never gonna even score
remotely enough points to have any chance of winning that game.
Michigan they fell apart in the second half. So yeah,
I mean look, I mean you want to debate it
and go detail and whatever, that's fine, But I just
think that is I mean, that's a question for Jedfish, right, like.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
What do you need to do?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Man?
Speaker 5 (22:45):
What do you need to do Because they've played seven
or eight of these games. I mean, if you want
to include the Michigan game a year ago, uh, that's fine.
I thought they were I've never seen a Michigan Wolverine
football team. That ineptic quarterback is the one that we
saw a year ago come to Seattle.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
But they're still Michigan. And you know what, they also
won eight games a year ago.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
I think people kind of forget that that, Yeah, that
was not a very good Michigan football team. But they
also went eight and five last season. So let's just
give them the Michigan game for the sake of argument.
Every other big game they played against a big name opponent,
they either a got destroyed or b did not show
up offensively.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
But if we can make the same, if we can
cut into the gap as much as the Huskies did
from twenty fives or twenty five as well, do that
from twenty five to twenty six you're in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Well, I think I think you got to keep going. Obviously.
It's like you know when you start to you know,
go on the treadmill. You know, one day you go
a mile, then you a couple miles, and all of
a sudden, you wake up one day and you're you're
putting three and a half four miles and you feel
pretty good. You do five push ups today, you do
ten push ups tomorrow. So they got to find a
way to keep that thing going. I think it's going
to start with a different brand of player, and that's
(23:53):
why I love the fact that they went out and
got Cody Green, who's the number one player in California,
the number four offensive ten overall.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Now obviously he's got ties. What to Eastside Catholic?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Is that right?
Speaker 5 (24:04):
And then went down to matter Day was it was?
It was it one year or two years? He spent
a matter Day, But he's a he's a local guy
and he just happened to move down there to play football.
And I mean, I don't would he have been the
number four tackle in the country if he had stayed
at Eastside Catholic.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Maybe.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
I mean JT toom Allowed did pretty damn good for
himself coming out of Eastside Catholic.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
I think there's a few schools in Washington, Eastside Catholic
being one of them, better on than national recruiting.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
That's right, app that's right, But you're but it's still
modern Day's modern day.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
I mean, they won the national championship last season, so
they're certainly at a higher level than Eastside.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
No doubt.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
I mean, I think any time you go down there
and play against that kind of talent, you're doing you're
you're doing yourself a favor and that you're preparing yourself
for the next level, maybe a little more so than
if you had stayed here and played in that conference.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
But I I think he knows it.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
And I I just look at the offensive line for example,
man like next year, And it's funny you brought this
update because I was actually jotting down some notes during
the break. Cody Green starter at left tackle. Maybe I
think they're gonna give him that shot. Jed talked about
that today at the press conference. We can ask him
when he comes on at six pm. John Mills is
coming back, Lendon Hatchet's coming back, and Drew as a
Party's coming back, and so at right guard?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Is it pockey fee?
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Now do they move Zach Hanning over there, who was
a center for a while when Landon hurt his hand.
They they've got the makings of what looks like potentially
a pretty good offensive line, much better than they were
a couple of years ago, and I think even better
than they are this year.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Well yeah, just because a lot of the I mean
you get familiar names. Now, it's almost like what you
had from from the twenty twenty two season to the
twenty twenty three season. You got all those guys back,
and look they turned into the Joe More Award winners.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Right, that's right.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Not because I mean there wasn't a lot of were
there superstar offensive line?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
It was funny about that, Dick.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Do you mention that?
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Because I was just gonna ask you when when the
season started in twenty twenty three, did you think the
Huskies had the best offensive line in college football?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I didn't.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
I thought they just had a veteran solid offensive line.
And I think next year the Huskies will have a
veteran solid offensive line with one exception, which is a
superstar freshman.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Well they Troy Fontanu was the one guy that I
remember Millan when he were talking about like Jackson Kirkland,
he'd be like, hey, Jackson's nice, but that fat Tano
guy he can play. He did the same thing with
Caleb when everyone was talking about Trey Adams, and Trey
obviously got hurt his back Blue. Remember he was like
a first round draft pick for a while there at
you and then he got hurt but yeah, I'm totally
with you. I never thought going into that year that
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that offensive line was going to be that good. In hell,
there's no way any Husky fans starting that season thought
they were going to play for the national championship. I
remember talking to you. I think you and I were
in a car driving somewhere and you looked at me.
This is like late October, early in November, and I
felt the same way. I'm not calling you out here,
trust me, because I felt the exact same way. You're like,
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they're not going to play for the national title. Remember
they just open they'd make the playoff. Yes, I mean
everyone thought they'd get killed by Oregon. The way they
played against Oregon State and the way they played against
Wazoo in the Apple Cup, right having to pull that
rabbit out of their ass on front down. Nobody thought
they had a shot against Oregon and they basically, you know,
they they were the much better team that day.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
Overall, it was bizarre how that regular season ended with
that Oregon State game and the rain storm the Wazoo game.
I mean, they're just squeaking these things out, and yet
they go to the play coda or they go to
the BACKDELD Championship game. Win that game, fairly decidedly win
against Texas, fairly decided.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Remember how bad Pennix looked in the Apple Cup. Oh
my god, Remember that when he was going over to
the sniff and that whatever it was on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Everyone's like, what's he doing?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
There were rumors about a broken rib for Michael Pennix,
and then he goes to the Texas game and he
freaking looks unbelievable. I mean, if they would have had
the Heisman vote the day after the Texas game, Mike
Pennix is the Heisman Trophy winner, without question.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
He's the Heisman Trophy winner if they had wind.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
All right, we'll do a little testimonials next, and then
Kevin Harlan coming up at five on ninety three three
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Did you hear about that?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
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thought she would have told you. She didn't caught her
up on the telephone.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
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Speaker 4 (01:44):
I spoke for a while. I didn't know if you
would have called her on the telegraph.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Or teams, meaning, yeah, I could have zumed her face
time or whatever. That would have been weird video call
from Softy coming in coming in hot.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, I'm glad that you were able to deal with it.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, that was great.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
We had a little administrative thing we had to take
care of, and you know, we took care of it.
So I'm trying to figure out who runs that family
down there, because she's got as much personality if not
more than you do.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Bell, Well, I don't do much.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I'm just here with you, just sitting and wait for
our call every Wednesday. I just ordered some crickets on
door Dash and some worms for a lizard.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
And I got to pick my daughter up from soccer
a little later, and my son is laying on a
blanket watching a YouTuber in the living room. USC is
down two to nothing to Oregon. Okay at the matt
yep yea, and the world keeps on turning Softy. It
looks like your coach is going to stay in Seattle. Yeah,
(02:46):
even though the family loves Tucson.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Yeah, well, Tucson's got a guy and he's having a
hell of a year.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yes he is. I'm very proud of Brent Brennan.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
They're ranked, They're nine to three.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
I saw where our friends over at West coach Football,
reminding everybody that Michigan you Dub played for the national
championship two years ago, and now both of them are
ranked behind Arizona, who lost their head coach to U
DUB after their coach took off for Alabama. So I
don't know, man, I mean, you tell us right. You're
always the voice of reason on this radio show. What
(03:18):
should our thoughts be on Jed Fish? How would you
characterize the first two years for this guy?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Well, I don't think it's been a failure. Yeah, so
you got that going for you.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Hey, at minimum we had it hasn't been a total
freaking disaster, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Go.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
But I think the comp for Washington, especially with the
joining of the Big Ten and the two years ago
what happened with Kaylin de boor the comparison is with Oregon,
and Oregon is going to the playoff and that's the
second year in a row they're going to the playoff.
Even though they got wiped out early last year. It
(03:57):
kind of became an afterthought most all the teams with
the first round I did, so I think that it's
not enough. I think Washington football got a taste of
what it's like at the top, and don't I never
thought Jedfish was the coach to keep you there. And
(04:17):
not to say that he's a bad coach, not to
say that he hasn't had a lot of success, not
to say what he did in Arizona wasn't really commendable.
I mean it's kind of interesting. It's like Bronco menden
Hall when he turned around New Mexico last year with
the Dan Pierre quarterback who's at Utah now, and Bronco
menden Hall turned New Mexico around to where they won
(04:39):
like five games, and that was unheard of in New
Mexico in the last twenty thirty years. They've had a
really bad run of things. And they were in euphoria
just because they won some home games and everybody's like,
my god, look at this Bronco menden Hall, look what
he can do. And then the next one game at home, seriously,
(05:02):
it was that bad charge. Yeah, and the next thing
you know, here comes this guy, Jason Eck and he
brings a bunch of people from the FCS Idaho of
all places, and and that's very close to everybody's heart
in Seattle because of its proximity to Pullman and all
of that. And he brings a quarterback, his son, a back,
(05:26):
a couple other team leaders, a bunch of FCS guys,
and they went a four way tie for the Mountain
West and have they're they're filling the stadium and storm
in the field every week. So it's kind of like,
oh my god, this can get better and better, And
I think that didn't happen at Right, like Signetti left
(05:47):
James Madison and the next guy, Bob Chesney did really
well too, and now he's at UCLA. That didn't happen
at Washington. Jedfish, what is that funny?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Because it didn't.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Why wouldn't you follow that up with that chuckle?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well? I think.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
That the stakes are higher, right because your your competition
is tougher, of course than some of the examples the
Sun Belt in the Mountain West that I just gave you.
But nobody at the Washington World, especially you, wants to
hear that. You guys want to be competitive in every game.
Of course, you don't want to go to Michigan and
(06:30):
get your doors blown off and be like, well, you know,
that's what we expected, or the same thing.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Nobody expected that with Ohio State. Nobody did. We thought
they'd be in every game they play this year, including
Ohio State, of course.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
And it didn't happen, and it didn't happen against Oregon,
and maybe the quarterback mature is one more year. A
word that we use now in football more than we
use recruiting is retention. You have to retain the players
if you want them. A lot of guys that transfer
people don't realize or I guess people don't factor in,
(07:04):
are asked to leave because somebody else better or presumably better.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Right is coming in.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
And that phenomenon has been happening forever in college football.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
But I think Fish, I think Fish is like I
thought he was gonna be, which is just okay, and
that's not good enough. Washington needs to be like Oregon.
And I don't know, they're just not right. They're not
quite there, but I think they're closer to USC if
it's any consolation.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Yeah, not really, But I understand what you're talking about.
I mean there is some context there. Excuse me about
taking over, you know, something that got blown to bits
eighteen months ago, but you know that context for me
is now over. I mean it's time to win, right.
You get a year, a couple of years to kind
of rebuild the thing. And I mean you fell short.
The Wisconsin loss obviously was was a pisser. Uh never
(07:51):
should have happened. You should have been a ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I can tell you that great information about the Civil War,
and can't randle mad want the trip right.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
PC's just totally different vibe when I was out there
knowing what I know. You know, going into that stadium
having that background just changed the whole environment for me.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
But that's why I do what I do.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Yeah, thank you well about people are gotta wonder all
the time why you're here and justifies it right there
with that education that you gave us. But Petros is
with us. I do want to ask you about Oregon
and the coaches that are losing. In a second, I
do want to ask you about the Big Ten Championship,
but I got to make sure we get this in. Dude,
you know him. You covered him at USC. I'm sure
you've had him on your show a million damn times.
(08:32):
Lane Kiffin, Yes, talk to us about this decision he
made to quit and all miss before the playoff.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
There's a lot of weirdness here right. First of all,
I've known Lane Kiffin since two thousand and one when
he was the tight end coach for Pete Carroll and
he was like a red faced guy screaming and yelling
at the scout team, holding up the play card for
the scout team to look at and give the starters
(09:02):
a look, and just mother effing everybody. And I thought
the same thing I think every time I look at
him now on TV, which is what an enormous doucheband?
He is a pretty big douche. And I've listened. I've
seen Lane kiffen in all the compromising places that you
(09:25):
read about on Twitter and back and forth. And I
know more about Lane Kiffin than I want compromising points
because it was a time of a lack of institutional
control at USC.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
That's why.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
And my father did the recruiting through the restaurant. That's
why got it. Anyway, if you if you watch Lane
Kiffin on TV and you think he's a douche, you're right.
I've known him since two thousand and one. Now does
that mean he can't put together a football team and
call plays? No, that does not mean it. But when
somebody and you know, a few of these things aren't
(09:58):
really fair. I mean, and it's first of all, it's
really hard to get fired in September. I mean, it
used to be really hard, and Lane got fired in
September twice by the Raiders and by USC. But the
Al Davis overhead thing, is that really Lane's fault? That
Al Davis is a crazy old man? No, I mean
I get it. He was dysfunctional there, like he is
(10:21):
everywhere and has a terrible exit and leaves a trail
of half confirmed nefarious stories.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
But he was like thirty years old, right.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Right, Well whatever, But I mean shame on them for
hiring him because he's a douche. But you can't really
blame him for the overhead thing with Al Davis, And
you can't really blame him for getting fired on the tarmac.
The stupid USC donors and Pat Hayden did that. I mean,
they created that mythology. Why did he have to be
(10:52):
fired on the tarmac. Why couldn't he be fired at
his office or the next day at the athletic departments building. Well,
I mean, why why did that have to become this
huge story? Well because some donor told you and Pat
Hayden's an idiot, and they created this whole story, this
legend of a coach being fired on a tarmac and
(11:14):
USC being so terrible that they had to fire their coach.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
At the at the airport for charters.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
It's just that's stupid, that's not Yeah, he was really
bad at SE and some huge donor who's now no
longer with us, who gave USC like one hundred million
dollars literally said no more, I want him fired right now.
I don't want him on the bus or whatever. So
USC did his bidding and fired Lane Kiffin. And yeah,
that's on Lane, I guess for underperforming. But he didn't
(11:44):
have to be fired on a tarmac. Now what he
did at tennessee what he's done here at the Old
Miss situation and going back and forth, that's all on Lane.
The gross part about this, and it really seeps into
the college football Playoff and everything else that we're covering
(12:05):
when it comes to the sport kind of this week
and ever since they fired James Franklin is ESPN, especially
when it comes to Old Miss in the SEC, and
this Lane Kiffin story is talking out of both sides
of their mouth. Everybody's talking and consulting with him behind
the scenes, like Nick Saban. They own the SEC, they
(12:29):
own the playoff. They're begging on air for him to
be able to coach in the playoff.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Right, and which would have been ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Well, all of it's ridiculous, and it is.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I'm not surprised that Lane Kiffin is in bed with
a bunch of people from ESPN I'm not surprised about anything.
It's just gross to see it laid so bare in
front of us and everybody just says, hey, great, look
at how many clicks we got. It's just a really
ugly situation. And if you expect Lane Kiffin to handle
something poorly, it means you've probably met Lane Kiffin. I
(13:07):
don't know. I don't know what's going to happen at LSU.
I know he'll have a lot of financial resources and
maybe they could have some success, but I don't think
it's going to be like they're going to bring him
back in thirty years like Howard Schnellenberger and honor him right,
because he just doesn't seem to be able to sustain
(13:30):
relationships past the hot shot play caller. There's always someplace
better place. I would expect him to go to the
NFL next. And if he has any success at LSU,
or even not success, oh god. So I'm just imagining
if he ever became the head coach of the Seahawks
and we have this clip.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Calling Lane Kiffin a giant touchbag.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Well, am I really out on a limb there?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I know I trust your judgment on him more than
anybody honestly. I mean you said there were some compromising
situations he was in.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Can you share one? Willis?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
No? What?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
What? What are you talking about? What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
What am I talking about?
Speaker 6 (14:11):
What?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Have you ever been one to whole person?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
If you told us your dad was gonna hide OJ
in the walk infrigerator, that's true too.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Okay, come on, man, you.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Got Let's just say a lot of the stuff you
see on Twitter, Yeah, it's it's not. I don't look
at that and be like, oh, I don't believe that.
You know, knowing the situation and knowing the guy, there's
a lot I see on Twitter that I believe. Well,
Petros is with US Big Ten Championship is coming up
on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
You may have seen India.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I saw him.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Dressed like a big chicken, like the San Diego chicken,
with a huge space cutout whereas genitals were He's running
around Shut up, you did not, No, I'm he was
running around like the.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Oh god, dude, I got that image.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I played Kimma ware in a San Diego Somebody's probably
seen him do that.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well, there's nuts. I could totally see it.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Oh god, all right, Well whatever, I don't know this
Big Ten Championship coming up Saturday.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
You think Indiana, I mean, maybe Indiana cars are that
Ohio state. You don't even know what I'm gonna ask you.
What am I gonna ask you?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Do you think Indiana can beat a High No.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
That's not what I'm gonna ask you at all.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Actually, I think they want to win the game more
than the Buck guys do, or winning the Big Ten
would mean more to them. If you went to Ryan
Day and maybe even Signetti and said, hey, you're both
in the playoff, you can skip this game and just
call it a tie and not even playing the damn thing?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Would they agree to that?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You think? I don't know. I don't know. I mean,
I think we're coming to the end.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
We're starting to realize that we don't well, first of all,
we're realizing we don't need a playoff committee. And second
we're realizing that we're realizing that we don't really need
the conference championship. And so that's kind of part of
this and it's awkward and everybody's still trying to figure
that out. But I think you're right. Probably Indiana has
more motivation because of Big Ten championship. I mean, that's
(16:15):
the I think I've said this on the show, but
to me watching football, and it was when I was
between leaving cal and going to USC that Northwestern won
the role or didn't win the Rose Bowl, but Gary
Barnett took him to the Rose Bowl, which at that
point was one of the most unheard of crazy things
(16:36):
in the history of football. Yeah, and they lost to
Kyshawn Johnson's team, but they had Steve Schner and Darnell
Autry and Pat Fitzgerald was a mic backer on that team,
and that was a miracle. And I came to know
Gary Barnett later through broadcasting and really came to like
him and was always just marvel at what he did
(16:59):
at Northway Western. What's happening in Indiana in the modern
times is dwarfing, that I mean, and it's getting a
lot of people fired. Because if Kurt Signetty can turn
around Indiana in a month with a bunch of guys
from the Sun Belt, then what the hell is anybody
else doing? Jed Fish, Lincoln Riley, Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Smith, I mean, what are you doing? So it's a very.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Interesting thing, and I think what Indiana has accomplished will
go down in history. I mean I know we're in
a different age and it's parody. And Indiana is an
institution that has a lot of money, but they hiring
a guy from the sun Belt and he brings in
a bunch of Sun Belt coaches and players and just
starts running the Big ten. Is pretty amazing. Yeah, and
(17:51):
and that needs to be that needs to be lauded,
whether they beat Ohio State or not. But yeah, I
think that's I'm interested. You see Indiana and Ferdie Mendoza,
who we all watch play at Cow. So that's what
makes it interesting. We've all seen Ohio State perform on
you see him in the play.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Well, we got Crowning, I know you got a run.
We got Mick Cron and your buddy in town the
night taking on the dogs seven three like it.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But he still wears a suit. I do too.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
I was just remarking to Dick a couple of days
ago that I wish more coaches did that.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
No, they all look everybody looks like what they are
big slobs. Don't deserve everybody who dressed like they really are.
They're big slobs that don't deserve the paycheck.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Hey, you want to really do something bold, go put
that Lane, Kiff and Chicken outfit on and cut a
hole out where you're junk is.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Wear that to a game? Yeah, with some turf shoes.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I get him talking, all right, Grayson team issued turf shoes.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
We're talking a week buddy. All right, well done, see
him man the shoe Spopinokas.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Grab your DUTs with us on the show.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Kevin Harlan coming up at five three.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
You know, Kevin Hurlim, Cool of the game.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
From the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now
back to Softy and Dick on your home for the Huskies,
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Speaker 3 (19:16):
Hi, Kevin Harlan's coming up.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
You heard.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Petro's excited for the visit with Kevin Harlan. He's back
after a week off. He actually took two weeks off.
You guys noticed that, by the way, took two weeks
off from radio, TV to the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Got a little bit of a break.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
You know, he's busting his ass man working for Amazon
during the NBA season and CBS for TV, Westwood One
on radio on Monday nights, and then he turns around
and he does it all for CBS and the NCAA
tournament coming up in March.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I mean, the guy's a machine man, He.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Is a machine.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
Can I Can I just bring one thing up that
you talked to Petros about?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I want to sure. I want to make sure bring.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Two things up if you want, go ahead. You want
to talk about Lane Kiffin's nuts? Is that what you
were talking about? Hanging out him his chicken suit?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Not that?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Did he claim that the Huskies were not competitive against
Ohio State, Oregon in Michigan?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
I don't remember did he say that. I would say
they were competitive against Oregon. I don't think they were
competitive against Michigan, especially in the second half. They got
run over by them in the second half. The Ohio State.
I mean, you and I have debated that before, right,
what that really looks like? I mean, let's face it, Dick,
the offense didn't show up in any of those games.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
No, No, they did.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
I'm totally I'm totally in agreement. But I think the
defense kept them in all three games. And so and
I've seen this. I've seen this a lot of places.
I've seen Wilner talk about it. Just like there's this
perception out there that if you didn't watch any of
those games, that the Huskies just got dominated in all
three games. And I just I went to two of them, okay,
(20:54):
and I didn't see that.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Yeah, well, I would just say this, you do you,
God bless you. I am going to tell you right
now that I'm not going to sit here and debate
three losses and try to find some silver lining of
whether or not the Huskies got overrun, got dominated, or
(21:16):
were competitive. They lost all three and the offense was
horrific in every single one they played.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
That's what I saw. Did I see a defense that
was pretty good? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
I also saw an Ohio State football team that knew
that their defense was not going to allow the Dogs
to score a point right in that game, and that
may have influenced their quarter and a rookie quarterback who
got a lot better as the year went on, by
the way, after that game. But I mean, do we
take solas I guess in that that I mean they
lost twenty four to six, They lost twenty four to seven,
(21:49):
and they lost twenty six to fourteen. I think the
Oregon game of all three of them, the Oregon game
was one that was the closest.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Yes, Yes, I would agree with that, And I just
think that, you know, these I think I'm comparing them.
I'm spending so much time maybe comparing him to what
happened last year, right, because last year every time we
played a good degree, yeah we got smashed.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Well, I mean they're closing the gap, right, If that's
what you're getting at. I think you're technically correct, yes,
that they are closing the gap between them and those
other teams. I mean, Iowa kicked their ass, Indiana kicked
their ass, Penn State kicked their ass, and Oregon kicked
their ass.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Those were true ass gass kickings.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
But the Buckeye game, they were never gonna even score
remotely enough points to have any chance of winning that game.
Michigan they fell apart in the second half. So yeah,
I mean look, I mean you want to debate it
and go detail and whatever, that's fine, But I just
think that is I mean, that's a question for Jedfish, right, like.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
What do you need to do?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Man?
Speaker 5 (22:45):
What do you need to do Because they've played seven
or eight of these games. I mean, if you want
to include the Michigan game a year ago, uh, that's fine.
I thought they were I've never seen a Michigan Wolverine
football team. That ineptic quarterback is the one that we
saw a year ago come to Seattle.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
But they're still Michigan. And you know what, they also
won eight games a year ago.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
I think people kind of forget that that, Yeah, that
was not a very good Michigan football team. But they
also went eight and five last season. So let's just
give them the Michigan game for the sake of argument.
Every other big game they played against a big name opponent,
they either a got destroyed or b did not show
up offensively.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
But if we can make the same, if we can
cut into the gap as much as the Huskies did
from twenty fives or twenty five as well, do that
from twenty five to twenty six you're in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Well, I think I think you got to keep going. Obviously.
It's like you know when you start to you know,
go on the treadmill. You know, one day you go
a mile, then you a couple miles, and all of
a sudden, you wake up one day and you're you're
putting three and a half four miles and you feel
pretty good. You do five push ups today, you do
ten push ups tomorrow. So they got to find a
way to keep that thing going. I think it's going
to start with a different brand of player, and that's
(23:53):
why I love the fact that they went out and
got Cody Green, who's the number one player in California,
the number four offensive ten overall.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Now obviously he's got ties. What to Eastside Catholic?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Is that right?
Speaker 5 (24:04):
And then went down to matter Day was it was?
It was it one year or two years? He spent
a matter Day, But he's a he's a local guy
and he just happened to move down there to play football.
And I mean, I don't would he have been the
number four tackle in the country if he had stayed
at Eastside Catholic.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Maybe.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
I mean JT toom Allowed did pretty damn good for
himself coming out of Eastside Catholic.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
I think there's a few schools in Washington, Eastside Catholic
being one of them, better on than national recruiting.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
That's right, app that's right, But you're but it's still
modern Day's modern day.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
I mean, they won the national championship last season, so
they're certainly at a higher level than Eastside.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
No doubt.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
I mean, I think any time you go down there
and play against that kind of talent, you're doing you're
you're doing yourself a favor and that you're preparing yourself
for the next level, maybe a little more so than
if you had stayed here and played in that conference.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
But I I think he knows it.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
And I I just look at the offensive line for example,
man like next year, And it's funny you brought this
update because I was actually jotting down some notes during
the break. Cody Green starter at left tackle. Maybe I
think they're gonna give him that shot. Jed talked about
that today at the press conference. We can ask him
when he comes on at six pm. John Mills is
coming back, Lendon Hatchet's coming back, and Drew as a
Party's coming back, and so at right guard?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Is it pockey fee?
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Now do they move Zach Hanning over there, who was
a center for a while when Landon hurt his hand.
They they've got the makings of what looks like potentially
a pretty good offensive line, much better than they were
a couple of years ago, and I think even better
than they are this year.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Well yeah, just because a lot of the I mean
you get familiar names. Now, it's almost like what you
had from from the twenty twenty two season to the
twenty twenty three season. You got all those guys back,
and look they turned into the Joe More Award winners.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Right, that's right.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Not because I mean there wasn't a lot of were
there superstar offensive line?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
It was funny about that, Dick.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Do you mention that?
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Because I was just gonna ask you when when the
season started in twenty twenty three, did you think the
Huskies had the best offensive line in college football?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I didn't.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
I thought they just had a veteran solid offensive line.
And I think next year the Huskies will have a
veteran solid offensive line with one exception, which is a
superstar freshman.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Well they Troy Fontanu was the one guy that I
remember Millan when he were talking about like Jackson Kirkland,
he'd be like, hey, Jackson's nice, but that fat Tano
guy he can play. He did the same thing with
Caleb when everyone was talking about Trey Adams, and Trey
obviously got hurt his back Blue. Remember he was like
a first round draft pick for a while there at
you and then he got hurt but yeah, I'm totally
with you. I never thought going into that year that
(26:37):
that offensive line was going to be that good. In hell,
there's no way any Husky fans starting that season thought
they were going to play for the national championship. I
remember talking to you. I think you and I were
in a car driving somewhere and you looked at me.
This is like late October, early in November, and I
felt the same way. I'm not calling you out here,
trust me, because I felt the exact same way. You're like,
(26:58):
they're not going to play for the national title. Remember
they just open they'd make the playoff. Yes, I mean
everyone thought they'd get killed by Oregon. The way they
played against Oregon State and the way they played against
Wazoo in the Apple Cup, right having to pull that
rabbit out of their ass on front down. Nobody thought
they had a shot against Oregon and they basically, you know,
they they were the much better team that day.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
Overall, it was bizarre how that regular season ended with
that Oregon State game and the rain storm the Wazoo game.
I mean, they're just squeaking these things out, and yet
they go to the play coda or they go to
the BACKDELD Championship game. Win that game, fairly decidedly win
against Texas, fairly decided.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Remember how bad Pennix looked in the Apple Cup. Oh
my god, Remember that when he was going over to
the sniff and that whatever it was on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Everyone's like, what's he doing?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
There were rumors about a broken rib for Michael Pennix,
and then he goes to the Texas game and he
freaking looks unbelievable. I mean, if they would have had
the Heisman vote the day after the Texas game, Mike
Pennix is the Heisman Trophy winner, without question.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
He's the Heisman Trophy winner if they had wind.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
All right, we'll do a little testimonials next, and then
Kevin Harlan coming up at five on ninety three three
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