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December 3, 2025 57 mins

In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler chats with Kevin Harlan about the Falcons and NFL top stories, then Dick Fain rejoins to discuss Sam Darnold before some Fun with Audio, then UW Head Coach Jedd Fisch joins to talk about recruiting, finances, and the portal.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (01:42):
Our friend Kevin Harlan, How are you, pal?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I'm doing great. You know, Brad and I were enjoying
a nice drink the other night and I was up
over Twin Peaks and I said, I said, Brad, you know,
let me ask you something. Why do you associate with
a guy like Dave's softy mall is? Because he's iconic
in the Pacific Northwest. He is he rules the airwaves.

(02:08):
You should feel, my friend, this is him talking Brad.
You should feel lucky to be on with him once
a week. And I said, you know, he never looked
at it that way. I don't know that I will,
but that's good. It's good to hear you say that.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Well, so I think Brad.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
I think Brad would say to you the reason why
he associates with me is because it's a reminder for
him that no matter how miserable your life is, it
can always be worse. I think that's why he likes
to have me in his life for that perspective. My friend,
Oh you come on, hey, just listen.

Speaker 6 (02:39):
It is.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
It is great to have you back.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
And people may be wondering, you know, God, that that
that cowboy highlight that was from a couple of weeks ago,
which it was, But you got yourself a nice little
break man, giving yourself a little R and R with
a family.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
How is Thanksgiving? And can we expect a.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Totally energized now refresh Kevin Harlan come Monday night.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, energy has never been my problem. So I don't
know if that I don't think that's gonna be that
that that has been replenished. It's always been kind of
the same. They always give me two weeks off every year.
I've just never taken it. Wow for Monday Night and
decided this year that I was going to m and
I'm glad I did. And we had we had uh
we don't know. We have seven grandkids, but we had

(03:22):
five that were up with us for the holiday, with
their moms and dads, our daughters and our son and
it was just phenomenal. So we had a great Thanksgiving.
I hope you had one as well, and I hope
your listeners that are safe and and wonderful. Thanksgivting holiday
my favorite holiday, but food and football and being with
family and friends and loved ones, and that's that's the

(03:44):
best part of the holiday season.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
No doubt.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Well, we're going to see the Seahawks back in action
on Sunday against Atlanta. I don't know if you've seen
the Falcons up close in personal, you know we're kind
of bummed out that. Okay, good, but Pennix is not playing.
He ripped up his knees out for the year. We
get Kirk Cousins on Sunday and Atlanta. You're flying out there.
Hawks are favorites, But I don't know, man, this doesn't
feel like a cakewalk to me.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Oh no, no, no. I think anytime you go on
the road, especially for these Western teams, you know, you
go across country, it's always a challenge on a variety
of levels. We all know what they are. And I
think Cousins, the more he plays, the more he feels,
you know, comfortable with the offense. Now listen with Pennix,

(04:27):
it's a different style offense. They're just different ways that
they operate. He does things that that Kirk Cousins can't do,
and Cousins does things that Michael Pennix can't do. He's
been around for a long time. He's completely healed from
the injury, which he was not last year when he
began to fall apart middle of the season, late in
the season, and I think he comes out with renewed vigor.

(04:52):
They're still very much involved in that race, but they've
they've got it. I mean, December football is just so
vital and all these teams are thinking, you know, right now,
you know, where do we fit, how are we going
to proceed? How healthy can we stay and to me,
health is everything. So they'll take on a motivated quarterback,

(05:13):
and anytime you're in a dome, I just think that begins,
you know, a different process of thinking for a team
that plays outdoors like the Hawks do. But the one
thing about Seattle is that they travel well. Their defense travels.
The season speaks for itself, you know, Darnold, aside from
that hiccup with the turnovers, you know, a couple of

(05:33):
games ago against the Rams, I still feel he is
one of the elite quarterbacks in the league. Came in
with a huge winness past weekend and they look good.
And you know, when you shut out a team that
used to play for it always right, it always speaks volumes.
And he was energized and ready to go, as he

(05:54):
will be this weekend in Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Well, I think the question about Sam.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
We brought this up yesterday Kevin on the radio show
Kevin Harlan again with us courtesy at Twin Peaks Tuckwilla
every Wednesday, unless he's got the week off like you
had last week. Is are we still as high on
Sam now as we were a month ago? I mean,
you know, weeks one through eight Passer rating of one sixteen.
He had seven total turnovers in eight games, and now

(06:18):
in the last four his passer rating has dropped to
seventy seven and he's got eight turnovers in the last
four games with a sixty four percent completion rate versus seventies. So,
I mean, I don't have any problems saying the guy's
had a bad month. How much should that kind of
maybe freak out Seahawks fans a little bit?

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Well, should the Rams fans be, you know, worrying about
what Stafford showed this past weekend? Right? I mean, quarterbacks
are gonna have bad games. Everybody has a bad day,
and and there's been a couple here for Sam. But
I still think the belief in him is strong. I
think that the infrastructure around him is sound, and I

(06:59):
think he's still feels like, you know, there there's there's
a lot of good football to play. Listen. They're nine
to three and and that is an incredible record in
a difficult conference. They're in the best division in football.
We just saw the Niners this past weekend in Cleveland,
and and they are somehow surviving. I don't know how

(07:20):
much longer that can last, because they've lost so many
important parts on their defense, but they they you know,
Shanahan is a heck of a coach. That team is good,
your division is great. Party did not have a good
game the game before. I just think that you get
into these these these big games, the weather turns a
little crumby now. This week it will be indoors in Atlanta.

(07:42):
But I I just I just think that you know,
the stakes are higher every week that you proceed on
this journey to you know, to get to the end
of the season. Every game means more. It's like Atlanta,
they're for what are they four and eight? Like, like
if they lose, like they're they're sunk, and so they're
gonna come out desperate, right, They're gonna to come out
desperate in this game against the Hawks, and they're gonna

(08:03):
give their best shot at Sam and they know what
every game now means so much so I'd like to
grade him in the month of December. Maybe November wasn't great,
but let's let's see where this month takes him. I
still have I have supreme confidence in what he can do.
And he's the quarterback that we've seen the majority of
last year.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
In this year, Yeah, who's the best team in the NFC.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Well, boy, I was going to say the Rams, and
now I don't know. I can't say the Bears. I
just can't. But the record says they are. So I
still think that we've got a team coming up that
is going to and I And again, I think it
was a blip on the screen for the Rams. Carolina

(08:48):
was ticked off about how they played and Santa Claara
the weekend before, the Monday night before against the Niners,
and you know, they they played well and they knew
how important that game was gonna be and they beat
them and and that was a big statement for that
Carolina team that was up to this point, the most
important game of the season. And the Rams just didn't answer.

(09:11):
So I have a hard time saying the Bears. I
would likely stick more with the Rams. And I don't
know how you can say no about the Philadelphia Eagles.
We're gonna see Tampa Bayer Group is this week, but
they play New Orleans. But it's a division game. And
when you play division games, Dave, as you know, you know,
all bets are off. They know you better that they

(09:31):
know you're inner workings. You play them twice a year,
Division games are the most difficult games to play on
your schedule, and that is something that we're gonna have
to watch as we go down the road. There are
a couple big division games looming for the Hawks as
we wind up the month of December, ending the regular
season in early January, and and and those will be tests.

(09:52):
This will be a great This will be an interesting
game this week with the Falcons because they're desperate indoors
cross country coming on for resounding win, a shutout victory,
you know, can they make it too in a row?
And that could be incredibly empowering for the Seahawks moving forward.
If they show well this weekend against a desperate team

(10:13):
that really is on life support needing to win to
stay involved, that could be the ramifications of a Seahawk
win this weekend against an unfamiliar folk could be really important.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
Well, Kevin Harlan again is with us speaking of ramifications
of a win, how about ramifications of a loss? If
the Chiefs dropped this one on Sunday night to the Texans,
I mean, you and I a couple of weeks ago, right,
we both thought they're on the way back.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
And then they took a little bit of a detour.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
They lose this game on Sunday, man, there's gonna be
a lot of people looking to criticize this football team
and thinking they might just be finished for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well they could be. It's exhausting to be on the
path they've been on five to the last six Super Bowls.
You know, they were in three straight. There's no one
on this earth that would tell you otherwise that has
played in that kind of scenario when you play to
the middle of February with the pressure that's on your

(11:12):
back and a big game every week you play, and
that's what the Chiefs have faced. That's what the Eagles
are facing right now. You know, I think the Eagles
best football's ahead of them, quite frankly, and I think
December and early January for Philly will be great. I
don't know that I can say that about the Chiefs.
They're struggling in some important categories. They're not running the

(11:34):
ball well. Their offensive line is not giving the protection
early on the season that they gave Mahomes. The third
down offense is really brutal, and for whatever reason, they're
just not converting and they're not stopping anybody on third down.
So the Chiefs have got a lot of concerns. I
think they realize they're not going to win the division.
They're just not. It'll be the first time in ten

(11:55):
years they've not won the AFC West. So now they
got to figure out another way to get in and
that's only going to be through the wild card. And
the competition in those last couple of spots for the
wild card is intense because you've got Houston, who they're
playing this weekend, Pittsburgh, Miami now has suddenly caught fire.
They're gonna be tough. No, the Chiefs are in trouble.

(12:16):
I think everyone would say that, but this month will
tell us all we need to know about these teams.
If they foalded early on, we know they're not ready.
And if they can survive this month move forward, as
I think a lot of these teams will. I'm speaking
frankly about the Eagles, and I think the Rams will
not disappoint. I think they're gonna stay the course. They

(12:39):
had the one bad game, They've not had many bad
games all year, and Stafford has not had a bad
game all season until this past week. And there was
a little bit of rain in Carolina, So we all
saw what they were going through. But this is going
to be a fascinating month for ball. These teams, all
the teams that we know about red about followed. This
month is going to tell it all.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
Well, I'm looking at the current MVP odds in the NFL,
and I don't know if I've ever remembered a year
where the MVP, the Coach of the year, number one, seeds,
playoff spots, everything was so up in the air the
week after Thanksgiving. The parody that's spread through the NFL
is bananas. But if you look at like, for example,

(13:19):
just to quote the MGM and their current odds, they
say it's a two main race between Matt Stafford and
Drake May and it's not even close.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Do you believe that?

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Well, yes, May has played phenomenal football and the record
would say it. And they've won, you know, a string
of games that no other team has won this year.
They've been incredible. We saw him a couple of weeks
ago in Cleveland or in Cincinnati rather, and they didn't
play their best football, but they won. And I guess

(13:50):
it's kind of hard for people to figure out in
that quarterback class of last year which had all these
big names Caleb Williams and you know Daniels, and you
know Bo Nix and Drake May and you're right on
down the line, Michael Penny. Like all these guys, this
quarterback class had great projections. But I don't know that May's,

(14:13):
even though it was a very high pick, I don't
know that May's that may was thought of in terms
of what these other quarterbacks could do. And we know
what Jayden Daniels did last year. You know, he led
the team to the to the NFC Championship game, right
he was the offensive rookie of the year. At the
very least, I think May and Stafford have to be

(14:36):
one two, as everybody is basically saying, I don't know
if anybody's individual performance in this month is going to
rise high enough that it's going to supersede those two
unless they both fall flat on their face and a
guy like Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes comes out of
no place as a dark course and does something really special.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
Kevin Harlan, speaking a special back with us on the
radio show, you mentioned the Bears for a second there
two where their last four games are against the Green
Bay Packers. One of them is this Sunday, how much
credit should we be given Ben Johnson for what's happening
in Chicago. He was a guy that when the Hawks
hired m MacDonald, he was kind of on the list, right,
It was Bobby Slowick, it was Ben Johnson, it was

(15:18):
Mike McDonald.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Those were the three hot shot young guys and the NFL.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
And here we are two years later and he's got
him right now, is the current number one seed the NFL.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
But but how about that? Your guy has done won
ten games last year, right, and then he follows it
up with the kind of season this year that has
been incredibly impressive. So you know, I can't I can't,
you know, I mean nine and three, ten and seven,
nine and three, who's better than him? I mean, listen,

(15:50):
there was a lot of talent on Chicago, but they
made some incredibly smart moves this past offseason, at the
least of which was Johnson, who is coming there and
changed the the culture as much as he can in
three quarters of a season. But they made some great
additions to their offensive line. And let me tell you,
if you give a quarterback in this league, if they're

(16:11):
good enough to get drafted, if they're good enough to
play in this league, if they've got time, more times
than not, even the no name guys are going to
find that receiver. They're going to be able to excel
to some degree in that offense. And Caleb Williams now
has got a quarterback minded head coach and they're joined
at the hip, and he's brought them along in a

(16:34):
very patterned, deliberate, and effective way, and they bolstered their
offensive line. They've always had some nice players at the
skill positions. They're probably playing without their best defensive player,
but the team has just they've cashed in when they
need to cash in. They haven't had the most difficult schedule,

(16:55):
but they've had a schedule that they've met and conquered
like New England. So you know they are where they are.
They're a top the NFC. The quarterback is playing with
great confidence. Caleb Williams feels like a different quarterback. He's
always had a high percentage, low interception rate following again
like that, but he's got more of a run game.
He's got a better offensive line, as I mentioned, and
he's got a coach that is that that that is

(17:17):
making them believe they can win. We have seen time
and time again in this league four or five win
seasons the year before turning to double digit wins the
next year. And and that's where we are with the
Chicago Bears. They're they're they're nine wins, Is that right?
Or they have nine wins? They are nine.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Wins, yep, nine and three.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Rams are nine and three. They're one win away from
a double digit win season. But you're right, you you
point out the big thing. Green Bay had a nice
win this past Thanksgiving. They are coming in with a
ton of confidence, a ton and they've mastered the Bears.
They know how to beat the Bears, and they got
and the Bears have got to get the Packers out

(17:59):
of their psyche, out of their mind.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
And that's gonna be a tough thing to do. But
if they can, if they can erase that wash that away,
I think it speaks volumes, even more so than what
they've accomplished, speaks volumes of the journey they've been on.
Getting a tenth win, beating a divisional foe and a
team that has beaten them like a you know, like
a drum over these last two decades. They've had their

(18:22):
way with that team. But if they can beat them
in Lambeau, that's that's going to be a huge, huge
victory and a gigantic, gigantic impact on that franchise.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
Now, I'll be big, all right, Kevin, great stuff. You're
a smart guy, because you already told us you're doing
the Saints and Buccaneers for TV.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I want to do that every week, people said, and
you sneak it in and and foil his attempt to
make this non story a story. I'll be happy to
so I did today, and and I'll do it next
week too, and the week after and the week after that.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
Well whatever sts TV on Sunday, and then Eagles Chargers
at the home of UCLA Football, SOFI Stadium on Monday
night in La. All right, man, great stuff, Glad to
have you back, Glad you had a great break, and
look forward to seeing you Sunday and here in your
Monday poll.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Appreciate this, Bud.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Thank you, Dave, take care of my best of you
and we'll talk to you in a week.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
All right, man, Kevin Harlan with us on the radio show.
Jedfish is going to join. How about that big signing
day press conference? Recruits his reaction to the Oregon game.
The transfer portal coming up? Is he back next year?
For sure? We'll get to all that at six ninety
three to three KJRFM.

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Speaker 5 (19:51):
All right, so, Kevin Harlan says, give Sam Darnold a break.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Everybody has a bad month, everybody has a bad.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Game, says the Great Kevin Harlan. We talked about this
yesterday on the radio show. Right, how much is our
belief system? Do you have a belief system?

Speaker 6 (20:06):
Dick?

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Do you have a belief system? Jackson feltz I do okay?

Speaker 5 (20:10):
Well, whatever your belief system says about Sam Darnold today,
is it the same as it was a month ago
when through eight games he had a past rating of
one hundred and sixteen two thousand and eighty four yards
ten yards per throw. The last month he's down to
six yards of throw. And Harlan says, We're fine, give
him a break, right, but we're all going to keep
an eye on December. So if this guy continues to

(20:33):
drop the football man Seahawk Nation, Dick, you know is
going to have a fricking panic attack with this guy.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
If this keeps going, you know that I.

Speaker 7 (20:42):
Agree with everything Kevin Harlan had to say. I just
don't I try, and I'm not always good at it,
but I try not to be the recency bias sports fan,
and anything you see last is exactly what the person.

Speaker 6 (20:57):
Is, right.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
And if you everybody, every quarterback goes through stretches where
they're great, every quarterback goes through stretches where they're not great.
And I think we've seen enough of Sam Donald to
pretty much know what he is. He is not an
elite quarterback, but he is not a bottom half of
the NFL quarterback So you can kind of eliminate sixteen
through thirty two, you can eliminate one through five. He's

(21:20):
somewhere in the middle. He's much better than Geno Smith was,
He's certainly much better than Jill Smith is now, and
he's good enough to win football games with the defense
that you have.

Speaker 8 (21:30):
I just think that at a certain point, Donald's got
to step up in these big games. I mean last
year there was only a couple big games and he
didn't step up. And this year we've only seen a
couple of big games so far and he hasn't stepped up.
And we have a few massive games down the stretch,
I mean Colts, Rams, suddenly, the Panthers away, the game
suddenly is all of them, four of.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
The last five.

Speaker 8 (21:52):
So, buddy, Sam, like you were great in the first
half of the year, MVP caliber in the first half
of the year, but these are the pressure games, and guys,
we just haven't seen him in the clutch yet. So
I need to see that before I kind of turn
my head and believe this guy.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Can lead us in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
If you want to, just look at the body of work,
going back to last year's opener again for Minnesota. Okay,
the guy has in his last twenty nine games, he
is twenty three and six as a starter. This is
just regular season, so we're not including the playoff game
against the Rams.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Right, twenty three and.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
Six, sixty seven percent, fifty four touchdowns, twenty two interceptions,
passer rating of one oh two point seven. Uh he's
also taken sixty three sacks. The majority of those were
with the Vikings, by the way, obviously, because it's only
taken fifteen this year. But if I would have told
you over a near thirty game period that the guy

(22:46):
is twenty three and six with fifty four touchdowns, twenty
two interceptions at a passer rating of one hundred and three,
you would say, you know what before I just roll
the dice and look at door number two, right, just
I'll take it. Yeah, give it to us, We'll.

Speaker 8 (23:01):
Take I would say, really quick again, all those numbers
are great, and I absolutely would take those numbers. I
would love to look at just the stats in what
we would consider the three of us would consider big,
big clutch games. Yes, and I those stats just aren't
there touch games.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
But let me just ask you guys this, and give
full credit to Millan because he brought this up. So
we're talking about what I think you're talking about, Jackson,
is the Lion game, the RAM game in the playoffs,
and the RAM game this year for the Seahawks. Correct, Yeah,
those are the games that you're focused on, those three.
But right, okay, So, as Hugh has said, and I

(23:39):
agree with him. Was the Packer game last year at
Lambeau a big game for the Vikings and Sam darm
When was that that was in Week four? Was the
Packer game in Week seventeen?

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Yes? At home? Was that a big game.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
For Sam Darny the thirty three of forty three, three
seventy seven, three touchdowns and a pick and he was
at seventy eight percent.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
There we go, but nobody, nobody talks about that. Don't
talk about it, you know why? Because they won. That's why. Yes,
nobody's gonna sit.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Around and go, oh, this is great, Sam, don't won
a game of importance.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
No, they wait and they wait and they wait to pout.

Speaker 8 (24:15):
So do that again against Indianapolis, please, Sam.

Speaker 6 (24:17):
Well.

Speaker 7 (24:18):
And it is very difficult for even really good quarterbacks
to have great games against great defenses and big spots.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
It's just hard.

Speaker 7 (24:27):
If you're if your name's not Patrick Mahomes, if your
name's not Josh Allen, I mean, are you really gonna
shred top five defenses in the biggest spots. No, you
just have to play well enough to win.

Speaker 8 (24:40):
Indianapolis doesn't have a good defense right now, especially with
Sauce Gardner out right now. So I would say that
game's here, right, Yeah, the perfect opportunity for Sam to
have a big game against the Okay defense.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
Well yeah, I mean this game on Sunday is a
is a tricky one because the Falcons like to get
after the quarterback. So I'm really curious to see what
Biac does, what the offensive line does to protect him
on Sunday. I don't think this is going to be
like if the Hawks go down to Atlanta and they
win by three or four, or they come from behind
to win the game. I'm not going to be surprised
by that. I'm kind of at a point now in

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the season. Look, guys, you're fighting for let's be honest
with you. You're fighting for the number one seed in
the NFC. You have the exact same record as the
team with the number one seed in the NFC has,
and that's the Chicago Bears. Okay, reason why you don't
have it because you got the tiebreaker lost to the
Rams and they have the division.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
But you're fighting for the one seed. I don't even
know if people really.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Kind of realize that right now, we are literally fighting,
guys for a home field that vantaged Dick in the
NFL playoffs with five games to go.

Speaker 7 (25:44):
And we know what that means. That means so far
in Seahawks history, perfection, Yes every year, Yes, six and
oh never losing when you have the you have the
one seed. But I mean, I'm with you on the
on the Falcons game. I mean, if you win, dude,
just win. I think there's a better chance that we
were in a dog fight with eight minutes left to

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go in that game than we win by twenty. I
just think it's look what Atlanta's done the last five weeks.
They lost at New England, pretty good team, by one point.
They lost in overtime against Indianapolis, they lost in overtime
to Carolina, They blew out in New Orleans, and they

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lost by three at the Jets. They have covered this
seven point spread that's coming up with Seattle. They've covered
it five weeks in a row.

Speaker 8 (26:33):
I really quickly say all but one of those were
with Drake London, and he made not playing.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
That that's fair.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
That Saints game, by the way, was sixteen to ten
with twelve minutes to go in the fourth quarter. Atlanta
had a one score lead in that game, and they
found a way to get the late touchdown from the
Cousins to Moody. But the point is is that they're
playing much better football. They're better playing better football, they're
playing better for better.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Yes, well, I just think this man.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
I think going back to Sam and everything he's doing
for the Seahawks this year, Okay, fine, he has struggled
in some big games that we've seen him play. But
I think people, as Don James said to hum Millin,
they only remember the games you lost. They don't talk
about the games that you won. There's no position in
sports that's nitpicked more than quarterback and critics right that

(27:27):
Sam Donald goes. And that's also why he makes thirty
five million guys. Come on, there's a reason why these
guys are making sixty million dollars a year because they
take all the crap and they get all the credit
when things go well, and they take it all when
things go poorly. But to act like Sam Donald has
never won a big game since he became a starter
a year ago is stupid.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
I just gave you two of them he won last year.

Speaker 7 (27:49):
I just think if Seahawk fans can just accept Sam
Donald for what he is, which is a good starting
NFL quarterback, a solid NFL starting quarterback. You're not gonna
worry so much when he has bad games. That does
happen all the time.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
If I made you an offer and said you can,
you can do one of two things. You can hang
on to Sam Donald, or you can take him back
and we can go over here and we can open
up door number three and see what's sitting there.

Speaker 7 (28:18):
There's nothing indoor number three. It's a goat, Like, let's
make a deal. Okay, there's literally like a goat.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
I'm just saying that there might be a better option,
or there might be a worse option.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
There.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
Odds are there's gonna be a worse option. That's part you.

Speaker 7 (28:30):
Know why the odds are because there's only like nine
quarterbacks on the planet better than Sam Darnald.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
We extracars.

Speaker 7 (28:36):
Yet we did that exercise yesterday.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
We will get a break a little fun with audio
slash hat did you hear that? Including Abdul Carter, who
did not play on the opening drive for the Giants
the other night. Question is why and was the Twitter
report that he was caught watching pornography in a team
meeting accurate? That's coming up. And then Jedfish at six

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on ninety three three kJ RFM.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
It's now time for Softy in Dig's Fun with Audio.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
Jimmy Gaunt, Jimmy mister garoppolo.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Now let's have some fun with audio.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Jetfish will join next segment. Signing day over at you
talk about some of the highlights of the class. Is
Denzel Boston back, Jacob Manu Buddha, the linebacker, Tyreek Aluk?
Does he coming back next year? So lots of questions,
man hey, is jet Fish coming back? Is he get
to answer all I he better from what we're paying for?

Speaker 8 (29:31):
What?

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Or I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna kick
his ass. That's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna punch
him right in the nose. If he doesn't answer all
those questions.

Speaker 7 (29:40):
You know what you say, would you pay us for that?

Speaker 6 (29:42):
Watch? Softy?

Speaker 5 (29:43):
Just a cost j Fish.

Speaker 8 (29:44):
I think the better question, Dick is if we started
a Kickstarter, how much money could we raise?

Speaker 4 (29:49):
Is that like a go fund me?

Speaker 5 (29:50):
By the way, did you see the story on Twitter
there night that some guy was at a Lows and
there was like an eighty eight year old Army veteran
that was working there and he said he had to
work at the age of eighty eight, beca as he
lost his pension with General Motors and his wife passed
away like seven years ago. And so Twitter and this
might be a hoax, It might be a scam. I
might be somebody ripping somebody off. Twitter got together and

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started a GoFundMe page for the guy. They have over
a million dollars for the guy now so he can retire.
That's tremendous. Sometimes Twitter is not the piss hole that
you think it is, by the way, he usually is,
but not in that case.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that day? What's that?

Speaker 6 (30:28):
Dick?

Speaker 4 (30:28):
All right? Monday there was a report. Are we sure
this was fake?

Speaker 8 (30:33):
We are knowing that it's from a parody account.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
Okay, Wesley Steinberg was at his name whatever. There was
a report from a parody Giants reporter that said that
New York rookie lineman Abdua Carter would be sitting out
the start of Monday night's game because he was caught
watching porn during a team meeting. The plot thickened when
Carter was actually benched for the start of the game,

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so after.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
New York's loss.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
Here is what interim head coach Mike Acas said about
his decision to keep Carter out of the game.

Speaker 7 (31:04):
Was abduel not out there the first couple of series.

Speaker 9 (31:07):
That was a coach's decision, my decision.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Why have you made that decision.

Speaker 9 (31:12):
Just based on how we how we went during the week.
Just that was that was a decision I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Make another just onary reason.

Speaker 9 (31:18):
No, it was just my decision to not to not
play them. There was a report that that he had
was missed part of or all of a team event.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Is that true.

Speaker 9 (31:29):
No, it was just strictly my decision.

Speaker 7 (31:31):
I mean, Mike, I imagine that when you mentioned on
the first time you hope that the message would get
through to the fact that this now two weeks later.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
It's it's the same exact thing again, I mean, or
it's something similar again.

Speaker 9 (31:41):
I mean what so just say, we have great communication
and he's one of my favorite players on the team,
and that was one thing that you know, we talked
about and it was my decision to not play this
one again. That was again, this is one of the
things that I decided to do a time.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Still a problem may that being a constant problem.

Speaker 9 (31:59):
It's this was just strictly my decision to not plan
this week.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
And by the way, it went on like that for
another minute. So I'm confused. Was it whose decision was.

Speaker 7 (32:08):
I don't think I think it was Kafka's decision, but
I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
He didn't make it very clear at.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
One point after the eighteenth it was my decision? Does
a member of the New York media, And I'm stunned
that nobody actually asked, is it true he was watching
Forrest Hump.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
In a team meeting?

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Is it true he got caught watching the Da Vinci load.

Speaker 10 (32:32):
Ohe Nobody stepped up and asked that question. Nobody asked,
there's like fifty people that cover the giants in New
York City, Mike, is it true he was watching womb Raider?

Speaker 7 (32:47):
Eh, you're spitting these out way too easily.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Dave whether on the web. I'm looking at him right now? Oh, okay,
would like me to continue? Please?

Speaker 5 (32:56):
Actually, Edward Penis hands, I mean, I don't know, dude, Dick.
Are you shocked though that nobody actually just asked that
flat out? All the knuckleheads that live in New York
can cover the team and we saw that.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
We saw the report off the air.

Speaker 7 (33:14):
And we were like, is this really true?

Speaker 4 (33:17):
And we were we were like, ye, but it is.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
We do know it is a parody. Wesley Steinberg. Guy, Okay,
all right, well there you go. But at minimum we
do know whose decision it was, and it was Mike
Kafka's decision.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?

Speaker 6 (33:33):
What's that?

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Dick? You want to go to two?

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Then?

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (33:35):
All right.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
Abdul Carter himself also spoke briefly after the loss and
was asked about why he was benched for the start
of the game.

Speaker 9 (33:42):
Second time in three weeks, start for half?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
It happens?

Speaker 6 (33:48):
What happened to the detail?

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Why? Why? I for asking the same question? I just answered,
is it true you were caught watching drill Bill?

Speaker 5 (34:04):
I just I'm amazed man that when it came to
his locker room interview and Kafka's interview, that nobody actually
mentioned that because they were hiding something.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Right, clearly clearly hiding something.

Speaker 7 (34:16):
God, well, are you going to get in trouble for
on the company computer looking up all those movies?

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Probably it's all work related, man, Right, I just typed
in porn parody titles, and all these names came up
on the screen here. Oh wait, he's just gonna you
know what, I'd realized. I just screwed up. I'm sorry,
they just came up automatically. I'm logged into Mark James's account.

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We're gonna break Jeed Fish gonna join next on ninety
three three KJRFM.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
All right, let's get to it.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
Uh Husky's thirteenth best class in America is deemed by
our friends over at two four seven would you say?

Speaker 4 (34:54):
Dick Composite has them at.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
Number twelve in the country, including the number one player
in California, tackle Cody Green. Great day for Jedfish and
company over at you Dub, and he joins us right
now on the radio program, Coach, how are you?

Speaker 6 (35:10):
I'm doing great, really excited about the way it went today.
I think our whole staff, Matt Doherty's personnel department are
assistant coaches, did an unbelievable job. Highest ranked class in
the history, you Dub. I'm just so proud of the
team and the amount of great players we brought in.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
Well, let's talk about these guys, a few of them
in detail, because I think in years past, you have
a class like this and maybe there's two or three
guys jed that would play right away, right, you know,
most freshmen back in the day would sit and learn
for a couple of years and not the way of
the world coach anymore. And let's start with the big
offensive tackle from matter day, Cody Green. There's gonna be

(35:49):
an opening in case you didn't know, at left tackle
next year with Carver Willis taken off. So where does
Cody Green fit into your plans as far as a
day one player on that offensive line?

Speaker 6 (36:01):
Yeah, I mean, he's you know, the coolest part about
Cody is he's you know, he's from Seattle, just played
a modern day Dad's a you know, dad's a teacher
here in Bellevue. So just so excited about having Cody
with us. I think, you know, when you bring in
somebody of his caliber, athleticism, size, way, mentality, he reminds

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me a lot of bringing a guy like John Mills
that they're ready to play day one. Now you've got
to earn it, you've got to compete for it. You've
got to be able to, you know, handle the pass
rushers of the big can and be able to handle
everything that goes into being a starting offensive lineman. But
he's in position to have that to compete for that spot,
and we're excited about having him here. Obviously, the number

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one player in the state of California to come to
the University of Washington's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
No question.

Speaker 7 (36:52):
Well, about ten years ago we got the moniker DBU
over there at at mont Lake and you guys are
still great at the defensive back position, but it he's
almost turning into wide receiver. You over the last few
years with the last few recruiting classes, tell us about
Jordan Clay, another kid with just NFL body six three
from Texas.

Speaker 6 (37:12):
Yeah, you know he was. He was one of our
later rivals. We were able to get him yesterday and
we've recruited him. Really, we've known about him for I
don't know, nine ten months. I think I have like
original messages since July and even before with him. But
he is he looks he looks how you want him

(37:34):
to look. And you know, he looks like a younger
Denzel Boston type body type and a younger t mac
and that type of body that you know we want
to have in our exposition is that somebody that's in
that above six two frame, somebody that's long and linear,
that could win one on one battles. And when we

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were able to sign him along with you know, Mason James,
whos been committed to us from the very beginning, you know,
with the number one player in Oklahoma, and then adding
in Trads and Blaze of Vista Group.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
Let's talk about the kid from Kennedy Catholic right down
where Dick and I live by the way, just off
the highway. There there's a great history, a great pipeline
from Kennedy to you dub as you know that's been
going on for a long long time. And Derek Coleman
Brusa edge rusher Man. I think you talk to a
lot of Husky fans and you ask him what's one
thing you'd love to have over the offseason, They say,

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a war daddy on the on the edge, on the
defensive line. So I'm just gonna call the guy d
c B. Where does DCB fit with your plans for
twenty twenty six?

Speaker 6 (38:40):
Oh? Well, he's special now he's he is playing that
we will be playing him early. Wow. I beck him
to walk in here and make a huge difference. He
reminds me of you know what it looks like when
you take a first round pick in the NFL's He's
a first round pick here in college, and you know

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we'd beat the best teams in the country for him.
He's the number one player in the state of Washington,
him and Zadrias from a year ago. It's important to
us to get the best players in the state to
stay here and to get back to back number one
players in the States. It's critical. And then this guy
is I think he can rush the poster. I think
he'd stop the run. I think he could play really

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at all four spots on the defensive line, depending on
what we need and when. And really thrilled about him
joining us, Softie.

Speaker 7 (39:32):
I saw him about four weeks ago in person and
he had four sacks in the second half against my
alma Maters, So you know, I wasn't happy about that game,
but I was happy he was coming to the University
of Watching, no question about it.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Coach.

Speaker 7 (39:42):
You know, recruiters need a ward chest these days. It's
a it's a different world than it used to be.
How satisfied were you with with the ward chest you
had to work with?

Speaker 6 (39:52):
Well, you know, as I said to our staff that
I've read a lot of articles over the last week
or so about what some teams have done, and I'm
very proud of the fact that we recruited the old
fashioned way and we were able to get players to
commit here based on their ability to be developed. We

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were ready to get players to commit here based on
the relationships, and then they learned that when they get
here that they'll be able to receive compensation. And we
were not in that position to be able to play
high school players early, and we didn't do it. So
we're really happy with how it worked. And now we're
trying to build that war chest out to be able

(40:35):
to make sure that we can retain the team that
we need to retain here in January and then also
be able to reward the team after spring for next year.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
On what you look on well, Jake, you said just
a couple of weeks ago, I think you and I
were talking on a Monday or a Thursday, that you're
not where you got to be with the nil budget.
How much of your daily grind is spent convincing people
to help get you where you need to be financially
to be on that level where you can recruit the

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old fashioned way with a great sales job, but also
have the war chest, as Dick talked about, to get
the players you're looking for and keep the players you have.

Speaker 6 (41:17):
Yeah, it certainly takes up a good amount of time
as we're continuing to try to, you know, create the
program that we want to create. You could see really
throughout the last two weeks there's been a lot of
reports of programs, you know, trying to get to ten
million dollars out above above revenue share, you know, and

(41:40):
most of these programs that we've heard about on Twitter,
and you know, that's what you're looking to do. And
I think the top twenty five rosters next year will
probably cost somewhere between twenty to thirty million dollars. And
you know, those are going to be the teams that
are going to be competing the CFP annually. And it's
going to be our goal to be able to get

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our revenue share plus our community behind a great third
party program and be able to put ourselves in position
to have that type of roster.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
Well, let me just let me just jump in there,
because you mentioned between twenty and thirty million. Where are
we at I mean, I'll just ask you flat out,
how much are we spending on football next year?

Speaker 6 (42:18):
Yeah, we're gonna have to We're gonna have to find
a way to get to that number. Uh, We're gonna
have to find a way to get to, you know,
between twenty and twenty five million dollars. And we're gonna
work really hard over the next you know, six months
to get there. And I think we can get there.
And I believe if we can get there, we'll be
able to put ourselves in a position that there won't

(42:38):
be as big of a gap as there as there
was this season in terms of some of the some
of the teams and some of the rosters that we played.
I think we all can see good way the gaps work.
Some programs that we we had a big gap on
that we played our team a lot more than their team,
and you could see the scores, and there's other times
that you could see some of the programs that paid

(43:00):
their guys a lot more than what we were able
to do, and you see the scores. And we're proud
that all of our games that we didn't win was
a one score game in the fourth quarter. For all
four games, we feel we're one quarter away, and we
feel like that quarter is a quarter of depth, and
we got to be able to pay for depth, and

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that's going to be the key for us to be
able to get to that next spot.

Speaker 7 (43:24):
Are the conversations with players and parents a lot different
now in the nil era? Or is too much being
made and it's really not a ton of parents or
players that are just looking for the most money now.

Speaker 6 (43:38):
Unfortunately, I would say that they are what you would
expect them to be at the end, I'd say, you know,
for about three hundred and sixty days or so, you know,
if you're recruiting a kid for a year, for about
three hundred and sixty days or so, not ninety nine
percent of the conversations are what they've always been. It's
the last five days when I think people so trying

(44:00):
to get involved. Agents start calling kids up and start
saying we can get you more if you sign with us.
And you have guys that have come out of the
woodwork and wanting to try to get a hold of you,
you know, twenty four hours before signing today and tell
you that they now represent X, Y or Z. Yeah,
and you know, the challenge becomes, you know, a lot

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of these agents are out there trying to pedal guys
and you don't even know what they're really getting and
what they're really asking for, but they're just trying to
prove their worth. So you got to be able to
get through all of that. And you know, it's a
lot more fun to work with agents that represent NFL
players as you kind of know that they're making their
money off of those guys, not off of these kids.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
Well, Jeff Fish is with us a signing day you
dub thirteenth in the country according to our friends over
at two four seven sports. You're bringing in the four
wide receivers. Audric hitting the portal yesterday. You mentioned Denzel Boston.
He did walk for the Oregon game, but he's got
one more year if he wants it.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
You think Denzel's coming back next year?

Speaker 6 (45:01):
I don't know. You know, there's a lot of conversations
about it. There's a lot going on in his said
there's a lot of people that are, you know, giving
him a lot of information. I'm a big believer that
you have to you have to make he has to
make that decision, because I don't want to be in
a situation.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Where he has to regret one.

Speaker 6 (45:21):
Way or the other who had support it one hundred
percent either way, there's great arguments for both. You know,
there's always opportunities now that there never were before to
come back, get paid and give your chance self a
chance to rise in the draft. And then there's other
opportunities to say, I feel good where I'm at and
it's time for me to go. So we're gonna continue

(45:43):
to have those conversations here, but I'm gonna, you know,
leave it up to him to make that final call. Certainly,
I've had a lot of players that have returned in
my past and they've all benefited from that. But again,
you know, you just never know.

Speaker 7 (45:58):
Well, we talked a lot about the wide receiver. Do
you feel like that that position group got the most
help in this recruiting class or is there another group
that you really think really benefited.

Speaker 6 (46:09):
Well, I think our receiver group continued to to be enhanced.
But we played a lot of freshmen this year at receiver,
and those guys are going to have an off season,
they're going to know the system, they're going to build
the callus up and the guys that we have here,
the robots, the Chris Lawson's the Raid and Vines Bright.
Those guys were huge, you know, huge impact in our program.

(46:33):
And I expect those guys to make even more of
an impact next next year as well as the market
terrists of the world that are that are all so young,
so that group is going to continue to grow. With
the four guys that we were that came as well.
But I think that we got reinforcements the defensive backs.
We signed five signed five dbs. We signed two safeties,

(46:56):
three corners, and I think that's going to make a
huge difference for US. US getting those five guys, I
really like, I love, I love signing Ramsack threw in
another in state player from Bethel. I think he's gonna
make a huge impact as another in state linebacker, very
similar to Dadrius. We're now looking at two six foot

(47:17):
three linebackers out there and Ziotokio another linebacker six foot three.
So as I told you, guys, man, we're growing. And
I look back in the twenty twenty three game of
Washington brus Michigan, and you know what it looked like
rushing the football, what it looked like in score? And
I say, okay, well that was the big ten vers

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Pac twelve game.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (47:39):
Now it's time for the Big ten versus Big ten
games to work themselves out the way we hope. Now.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
I love it well.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
Jet Fish is with us, and I'm just just curious
about the transfer portal. If I'm not mistaken, you got
nineteen kids in the portal a year ago, including your
starting left tackle and Carver Willison. I'm also interested in
guys that are, you know, coming back or maybe taking off.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
I mean, can we, for example, Jay, can we count
on Jacob.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
Manu and Buddha tarik Al Lucta playing together for you
next season?

Speaker 6 (48:08):
Yeah? We can counnot we can count on those guys
being here. Yeah, you know, I believe that's what I'm
planning on. No, those guys are good. Yeah, but I
think that, you know, as we look at it, there
are always gonna be some changes. There's always gonna be
some players that you know, get talked into going into

(48:31):
the portal, that feel that they should go in the
portal so they can play. Guys that have played that
feel like compensation might work out better from somewhere else.
On the same token, you know, I always throw our players.
I will take as many players from the portal that
enter the portal. So if nobody enters, nobody comes. If
one enters, one comes, three enters, free come. So you know,

(48:54):
it's up to the locker room. It's up to the
team to figure out how they want to do it.
But I am loyal to the players that I signed
and that we signed and then or that came here
from high school. After that, if they choose to move on,
then well then we'll go find players in the portal.

(49:14):
But the key is I want the core nucleus of
players that we signed to be here for Senior Day
and for our fans to say, wow, I've known this
kid for four years, and I think that just will
make college football remain the best sport there is.

Speaker 7 (49:32):
Coach, you know, preseason hype means nothing in the NFL
as far as reaching the playoffs, But preseason hype in
college football still matters because the teams that are ranked two, three,
four in the preseason, they can lose a few games
and still be right there at the at the end
of the season. What needs to be done fan base,
University of Washington itself to let the country know how

(49:55):
damn good this team should be. In twenty twenty six,
So they're ranked I in twenty two that first poll.

Speaker 6 (50:02):
Yeah, I think that we just have to be behind
our team and the more positive, the more positive we are,
you know, the more positive the national media will look
at us. But you know, there's gonna be a there's
a prove it, there's a proven world that we live in,

(50:22):
and it's gonna be our job that when we host Indiana,
when we host ten State uh here, that we're gonna
you know, we got to come out on top. And
we host Iowa here, we've got to come out on top.
And when we go to Michigan State, and when we
go to USC and when we go to Purdue and
you know, we go to Minnesota or whatever the games
are that we have, we got to come out on top.

(50:44):
And if you win, you'll be run time. And that's
what I tell our team. Just win. If you keep winning,
it doesn't matter where you start, you'll finish in the
top twelve. And that's gonna be our goal, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
Jed finish with us and John tell you what you know,
Dick and I mentioned the other day that we're gonna
have you on and the text line just blows up
with questions for you, right, I mean, we gotta Jeded,
we gotta have you come down here over the offseason
like he did last summer and sit in the studio
and just stare at the text line for about an hour.
All right, just see what people are asking, what the

(51:15):
questions they want to know, the answers they want to know.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Can I can I pull a couple off.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
The text line from the audience for you here? Do
you mind before you take off? Is that all right?

Speaker 6 (51:25):
Sure? Go ahead?

Speaker 4 (51:26):
All right?

Speaker 5 (51:26):
So this one's for the two five three. Ask Jed
why he didn't run the ball more against Oregon. Mohammed
was the hot hand and he took him out of
the game too early. What do you say to people
who have that take on the game with the Ducks?

Speaker 6 (51:41):
Yeah, I mean I think we ran at thirty three times.
We probably could have kept running some more. I think
there were some opportunities that you know, that we probably
could have given them the ball a few more times.
I also think that we had some great opportunities there
to hit on some passes that we didn't, and then
we hit on some we needed to. So the last

(52:02):
seven plays of the game or five, we're passes because
we were down by twelve. Other than that, I think
we ran the ball pretty decent. I love the fact
that we outgained him by sixty yards. It tells me
that we went from you know, a year ago, they
outrushed us by over o one hundred yards. A year ago,
they had eleven more first downs than we did this week.

(52:23):
This year, we had one first time more than they did,
and we outgained them by sixty So we're getting there.
But yeah, we got to keep running the ball and
keep doing great team that can do both.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
And this is from the eight oh eight area code.
I think that's Hawaii, Dick, if I'm not mistaken. We
got a lot of people tuning in from Hawaii. Softy,
I'm considering buying season tickets for next year. I love
the group that's potentially coming back. Can you please ask
Jed if he can guarantee he'll be coaching Washington in
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Respond to that, I will be.

Speaker 6 (52:56):
Coaching Washington in twenty twenty six. He should buy his ticket,
buy their tickets. There was a there was a lot
of articles and a lot of rumors about me now
coaching Washington, but that dose ever came from me, and
I really one hundred percent believe in this team. I
believe in the jump that we made from year one

(53:16):
to year two, and I had zero interest in seeing
anything other than the jump we're going to make from
year two to three. And it would be very nice
to one day have a tenure at a place that
people can look back on and say, wow, that was
one hell of a run, so.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
That where I see it good.

Speaker 7 (53:33):
Was that a distraction at all for your kids in
your locker room this year? All those articles you talked about, you.

Speaker 6 (53:40):
Know, I hope not, but I'm sure they were at
some point. You know, I'm sure at at some point
kids start thinking and talking their kids. They're you know,
everyone's talking a little bit about what's true, what's false,
what does it look like, what it doesn't. But in
the end, I thought that the last few weeks of
the season, our guys played some of our best games
of football against perdu in UCLA, which were two games

(54:01):
that the rumors were hot and heavy. And you know,
I look back at the Oregon game and I say,
you know, you look at our team and it's nineteen
to fourteen with eight minutes left in the game, a
year ago he lost by twenty eight points and it
wasn't even that close. So I felt like our team
has really taken a big stride of being able to
put distractions, you know, aside. And I thought, we came

(54:23):
out ready to play this whole month of November, and
we're gonna do the same thing for the Bowl.

Speaker 5 (54:27):
Well before you go, jed to get to that point
you want to get to and look, you know, I
think all of us see a bright future starting obviously
this offseason, you know, heading in the next year. But
Demand the season he had. I think if you were
to told people at the start of the year that
Demand would have the year he had numbers wise, especially
against the big boys right Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, I think.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
A lot of folks would have been disappointed.

Speaker 5 (54:51):
You know, twelve sacks, five picks, two touchdowns in those
games and you went oh and three. So how do
you assess from your perspective the year that Demand just Chad?

Speaker 6 (55:01):
Yeah, I mean I talked to our team a little
bit about it, you know, and I said, you guys,
when you look at last year, we were one hundred
and fourth in the country and scoring this year, we
were twenty third, we were one hundred and first and
third down. This year we were seventh, We were seventy
fifth in the red zone. This year were fourteen, and
we were ninety seventh in touchdowns and this year a fifth.
So when you look at that type of jump, you

(55:22):
got to look at a twelve game You got to
look at a twelve game schedule, just like we did
a year ago. When you look at games against some
of the teams that were the better teams, I would
say that, you know, statistically, it wasn't much different than
you know, a guy that might have been taking in
the first round against teams like Michigan and Ohio State.

(55:43):
There's some really good defenses. I think Ohio State had
the record for the greatest defense in college football this year,
and I think they let up one hundred points or
less than one hundred points all season long. These guys
are elite, and we're working to become elite. But Demon's nineteen,
and when Demon's twenty, he's going to be better than

(56:05):
when he was nineteen. And I think that it's easy
to get so excited about the mom when we score
fifty and sixty and seventy points in games that we
forget about the challenge when you start playing teams like Michigan, Oregon,
Wisconsin in the snow, rain, whatever, and we get real

(56:27):
disappointed in certain outcomes and we forget the fact that
all we're going to do is get better. And I
believe that when you look at what he's done overall,
I thought he's had an elite year for where he
was as a true freshman. This was his first year
ever as a starter now as a true sophomore, and
he didn't red shirt when he got here. He played
right away, and his receivers were too true freshmen. He

(56:50):
was playing with two true freshman out of three. He
was playing with a true sophomore tight end, he was
playing with a true freshman at tackle, a true sophomore
running back when Jonah got hurt, and the truth, you know,
and really with no backup behind them, that were the
two true freshmen that were behind them both got hurt.
So you know, as I look at what we've done

(57:11):
and how we've done it, I think that he's done
some great things and I can't wait to watch what
demand does next year. When now you're playing against those
teams and you have a year of experience. Those teams
are really really good on defense, and that's been proven
across the country.

Speaker 5 (57:26):
Yeah, it feels like the nucleus is there. I'll give
you one more before you go. You can tell this
to your marketing team over there. There were only ten
teams in the country that finished in the top twenty
three in scoring defense and scoring offense.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
And you were one of them this year.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
So find a way to finish those games, be competitive
in the second half against the big boys, and who
knows what's coming. Hey, listen, good stuff. Appreciate this, Thanks
for doing this. Congrats on the class, and we'll talk soon.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
Coach.

Speaker 6 (57:51):
Thanks coach, Thanks guys, appreciate you having me on here.

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