February 21, 2025 • 29 mins
In the second hour, Dick Fain, Hugh Millen, and Jackson Felts shift Fun with Audio to a larger segment to fit in a bunch of NBA, hockey, and college football clips, then the guys talk to Bucky Jacobsen from Spring Training down in Peoria about the Mariners game.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
All right, we ready for this. You get the button?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Ready, have the button?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We're all good. We are ready for some fun. Hey, hu,
did you hear that? What's that?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
After the Lakers win of the Blazers last night, in
which forty year old Lebron James contributed forty points on
fourteen of twenty four, four of eight from three point range,
eight of eight from the free throw line, eight rebounds,
four assists, a block, two steals, and a partridge in
a pear tree head coach JJ Reddick wax poetic about
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his Lebron's commitment to the game.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
He really just defies.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Anything that's normal, and not just the physical feats and
the plays.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It's the mentality he is again. He's I believe I saw.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
The other day he's a billionaire and he's playing on
the second night of a back to back at forty
after twenty two years, with every fricking record and every accolade,
and the kids will say.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That I'm glazing him.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
He's one of the greatest competitors, and he's amazing to coach.
He's he brings it every single day like it's he
sets the standard for how you're supposed to approach this craft.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I think I understand now why Lebron James didn't play
in the All Star Game and got a whole bunch
of crap for it, because lots of people love to
give Lebron James crap.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I think he.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Didn't want to play because Hugh he knew what kind
of a bleep show the All Star Game was going
to be, and he was like, I want no part
of that. I want to focus on winning games for
my team. And he went out two nights in a row,
didn't get it, got a great game against Charlotte, didn't
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get it done at the end, had another great game
against Portland, did get it done, and they've won twelve
of the last sixteen games.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Well, I'm not in his head, none of us are.
We don't know.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
I mean, that's possible, it's plausible. Look, I don't think
anybody is disputing Lebron. Detractors are not going to try
and refute one thing that was uttered there. That's not
where the debate about Lebron lies. That he's a great player,
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that he's a competitive player, that he's a motivated player.
All of that is is conceded by Lebron detractors. It's
it's the other thing. So look, he's uh, you know,
we'll see what happens at the end of his career.
Right now, he's got four rings. Michael has six. I
think it's harder to make a mathematical based argument that
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Michael is the greatest basketball player than it is that
Gretzky's the greatest hockey player, that Tom Brady is the
greatest football player. You know, particularly in light of the fact,
you know, Bill Russell has eleven rings, and there's many
that have more than six. There's there's a handful that
have eight or nine.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Does Lebron in your mind, have to get to six.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
To be considered greater than Jordan.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yes, does he have to get the six because he's
gotten many, many, many more finals than Jordan.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
Well, first of all, it's every individual fan, every individual fan,
they have their criterion for our criteria for what makes
a a guy the goat. And I could I conceive
of a of a scenario where he gets to five
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and he's still he's considered greater than Michael. Possibly, but
not for me. Okay, I think Michael Jordan's the greatest
athlete I've ever seen in any sport. And yet I
will say it's a lot easier to argue that Tom
Brady's the greatest football player than it is that Michael
Jordan is the greatest basketball player. Yet I think Michael
is the greatest, not only the greatest basketball player, is
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the greatest athlete.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
That's what I value.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
It's what he showed more of what I value in
an athlete that makes me feel he's the greatest athlete
I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I want to.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Touch on that a little bit later on the show,
so we'll hold that thought.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
But hey, huge, you hear that?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
After the success of the Four Nations Tournament, steven A
shared his take on how An NBA version of an
American versus international team tournament would actually go.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
I can't sell it because Team USA is fair. They'll
get the ass kicked by those is from those international players.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
They will.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
But Steven Night, Molly, Molly, I'm gonna say it on
national television. The international players will bust their living behinds.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yes, they would, all right.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
Not just because their skill sets on par with them,
but because their care and they're compelled by their audience
from their homelands more so than that. So the level
of fervor that they would bring to the table, if
you understand, you gotta remember look at the Limptic competition
and look at how stiff it has gotten collectively. Those
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players internationally collectively on respective teams.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Don't compare the Team USA. But they gave him a
rough of their money.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Why because they go all out because they ain't playing.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
It's like that, I buy what he's selling.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I mean, we barely beat France, and we had a
hell of a lot more talent than France did. Now,
if you put now, France played together for a long time,
and I think you know can activity on a basketball
team means a lot. But man, you put Giannis and
Luca and the Joker on the same team. I mean, Wemby,
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I mean, you're you're getting a team that is every bit,
if not more so, talented than the top five Americans
can be. And I think he's right about the motivation.
The international players probably would have motivation, more motivation than
the US players.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Maybe they would. I would.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
I'd hope that's not the case. I would hope that
there'd be a leader. You know, Steve Kerr I had
an interesting comment in the Olympics. He said, we're the
only athletes in the Olympics where if we get a
silver medal, we are shamed by our fans. And that's
just part of being an American basketball player, like it
or not. I think that that could be an indictment.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
You know, the.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Referenced Jerry Colangelo and and his belief as the head
of USA basket Ball that Kobe Bryant was going to
be the leader. They would change the mindset, right, And
it was described, you know that the Krzyzewski's up there
and he's trying to figure out how to get everybody united,
and Lebron and Mellow are in the back Cadillac in it,
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and it was Kobe Bryant in row one of the
meeting room with his notebook out with a pencil, and
everybody else was in the back, and he was sitting
in the fifty yard line in row one, And famously
he would do his five am workouts. And then it
was Dwayne Wade who was the next guy because he
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had idolized Kobe. When Dwayne Wade learned that Kobe was
getting up at five am, then Dwayne Wade did it,
So then it was two and then I'm not sure
who the next word, but within a matter of days
or perhaps a week or two, whatever the timeframe was,
pretty soon the entire team was getting up at five
in the morning because and Kobe was originally doing it
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by himself.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
So if what Stephen A.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Smith said is true, then the recipe is to have
somebody as great as Kobe who has the pride of Kobe.
And if you read the stories that I've read, Lebron
wouldn't won them.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Had not then now Lebron, Lebron's forty, Now, I mean
you would think this maturity level is greater than it
was twelve years.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Well, he certainly would have the impact to lead, Yeah,
but uh, that would be my respect and in essence,
I'm agreen with Stephen A. Smith potentially in that. Look,
if the United States is not motivated, then they would
get their butt kicked, right, because as you said, there
was there was teams, individual European teams that could be competitive.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Now you unite them.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
You know, Luca and and Jokic and and all that,
you know, Jannis and all of them, the born players
all together.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yes, just even on and Wemby and you know weby.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
We don't have American MVP in six years, Hugh in
the NBA, I mean, it's been a long time since.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
But I think there would have to be the best
player in the league.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
There'd have to be somebody at the forefront, like you know,
who just is a great player and the leader. You know,
the memes were going around when this when when Tom
Brady was down by twenty five points in the Super Bowl,
he's he's up and down the.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Side, keeping it go go, keeping it.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Into it, and you know, God bless Mahomes, but he
just what apparently wasn't bringing that kind of leadership. So
I think I think that the American basketball team, you know,
the you know, obviously a basketball teams call it twelve players,
but the seven or eight or nine, whatever the rotation is,
the best nine players, uh in the United States at
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any given time, I think are better than the best
nine in the world. Of course that gap is closing us.
But if the Americans aren't motivated, don't have that Kobe
kill switch.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Slammed, then they would lose absolutely. Hey, huge, you hear that?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
What's that dick?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
On the NBA on t n T last night? They
were actually talking hockey on the NBA on tn T.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Good for them.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Charles Barkley shared his reaction to Canada taking down Team US.
Speaker 8 (10:14):
And listen, Jordan Bennington, you stood on your head. I'm
not gonna be a bad loser. Congratulations to Canada. Uh sorry,
I'm sorry we got the tariffs on you.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Of the hockey game. I think they were playing hot.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
They playing hot, caught the terrifor they didn't want to
be to fit the first state.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
That's the motivation.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
God load Chuck and God loved the fact that.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I mean, they're just you know, we talked about Sean
McDonough being the perfect play by play guy. I have
a tough time finding a more perfect studio, ever, than
than the NBA on on TNT and you know, just
being able to Hey, you know what, we're gonna talk
about the NBA right now, We're gonna talk about hockey
right now, and we're gonna make it entertain.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Well, I would say the all time greatest mouthpieces former athletes.
I think Muhammad Ali's number one. You want, you every
want to go down a rabbit hole, just get on
YouTube and go Muhammad Ali interviews and you know, whether
it's the Dick Cavitt Show or what you know, like
he was, you know, obviously he brings the weight of
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who he is and how he stood the social justice
aspect of it, but also immensely colorful how he tells stories.
Oh so, Muhammad Ali's number one, but I could easily
put slot Charles Barkley right in there at number two.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well time, speaking of Charles, Hey, Hughes, you hear that?
What's that?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Dad?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Let's hear some more from Chuck. So yesterday on the show,
we heard that Steven A.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Smith. We played this yesterday, Steven A.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Smith said that an international player cannot be the face
of the NBA. Well, Charles Barkley heard that comment and
here was his response.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
Can I say one more thing.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
I saw some guys on another at work the other
day talking about face of the league, and I was
so annoyed just sitting around watching.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
You know.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
Jerry started with Kevin Durant was talking about weinby being Philly.
First of all, you don't give anybody the face of
the league?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Am I right?
Speaker 8 (12:15):
Shack Shaq took being faced Mike, when Matti Johnson, Lara
Bird came in. They're like with the new sheriffs in town.
Shaq took it, Kobe took it, Lebron took it, Steph
took it. But I get so annoyed when I hear
these guys like, you don't give somebody something. That's one
of the problems we got. These idiots won't play an
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All Star game. We've given them so much. They don't
have no respect for the history. But you don't give
anybody the face of the game.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
You take it.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I think that's right.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I mean, I think I think it will organically happen.
But to steven A's point that we played yesterday, I
think I'm not going to say it's impossible for a
Luca or a Wemby or somebody like that to be
the face of the league. But it's an American sport.
It's always been an American sport. The international side of
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it came way later than the American side. When I
was growing up, there wasn't international basketball like this.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I mean, and I'm not that old.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I mean, it's only in the last twenty years or
so that we've had a lot of international players. So
I think it would be very hard for an international
player to organically become the face of the league.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Well, I think they're arguing two different points. I think
that steven A. Smith was saying whether it's taken or
whether it's given, just the idea that bright whoever emerges
through whatever mechanism, whoever what steven A Smith was saying,
as he doesn't think that the NBA can thrive if
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the if the premier face, the face of the league,
the best player is a foreign born player. And Charles
Barkley wasn't really addressing that. He was he was focused
on how do you get that title?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Is it something that we well?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
To me?
Speaker 6 (14:04):
That could be semantics because you say, well, who gives
the title?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
It's the guy who took it? Does that make sense?
Speaker 6 (14:10):
How? How did how did we ever say Michael Jordan
is the face of the NBA. When Magic Johnson and
Larry Bird were a few years ago, Michael I wasn't
in the media then, but the media gave Michael the
title because Michael took it. That's right, that's and and
and so it's it's like, I don't I don't really
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see a distinction. I think we all know when a
guy becomes the face of the league. And if there
is a player with enough, who's skilled, dominant enough, with
a with a style to his game, and then has charism.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Those three things.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
From a from a foreigner, I think that that a
player could.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Be a foreigner and be the face of the NBA.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Tim Duncan won what four championships and was never the
face of the league because there was no charisma there.
What one more?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Hey, huge, you hear that?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Let's talk some college football and Ky Adams up and
Adams Show. Yesterday, our old friend Sark announced that Texas
will not be having a spring game.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And why is that?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Sark?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Should I have been making plans to come back for
this since I'm a fan out to the spring game?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Is that a spring practice? You're gonna come to spring practice,
spring game. No, we're not going to have a spring game.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Wow, breaking news. You're the best coach Sert and just.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
Well, I think a couple of reasons why. Over the
last two years, we've played thirty games. Yeah, that's a
lot for college football fourteen two years ago, sixteen this year.
And I just mentioned we've had twenty five guys get
invited to the NFL Combine in the last two years,
so we've got a lot of young players on our roster.
We have twenty one mid year high school kids that
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just showed up, and so the development that's needed for
these guys to get ready for the fall is a
little bit different than it used to be, and so
our approach is going to be a little bit more
NFL driven, kind of more of an Ota style early on,
and as we grow into more of the scrimmage formats
in the second half of spring ball that I just
don't know, rolling the ball out, playing the game and
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when we only get fifteen practices is the best for
us to maximize the opportunities that we get.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
So it's going to be a little bit of different approach.
Speaker 9 (16:21):
But I think college football is changing right now and
we need to do a great job as coaches of
adapting to college football.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
You know, it starts the same age as me.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
And he still sounds exactly like he did when he
took over the Husky job at thirty five, Like he
still sounds like he's in his thirties. But so you
got him saying, you know, we got too many games.
You've got Matt ruhleot Nebraska saying we don't want other
teams to steal our signs by watching the spring game
on television.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Seems like it's a dying breed. Should it be here?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Well?
Speaker 6 (16:52):
I think also, you know, I know last year Jedfish
with the transfers. You know, you're you're you're trying to
get guys in this different times of the year, the
games are pushed back.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, hey, nothing surprised me. No changes.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
I felt like Sark was a little bit scattered there
trying to tie those Okay, they played thirty games, but
then he starts talking about how young they are, the
mid year high school guys, and that they want to
do more O T.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Eight uh O T eight style. That's that's interesting.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Usually I think that the benefit has been that you
want to rev them up and and see how they
compete in a situation that most resembles a game. I
mean when I played in a spring game, there was
no red jersey at Washington.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
We wore purple jerseys.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
You take a huge shot in the spring game, yeah, Fred.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Small, Yeah it was. There was another front page of
the Seattle Times.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Man.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
I was parallel to the ground and he hit me it. Now,
that wasn't the hardest hit I ever took. I took
a shot against the Jets and the metal lands from
a linebacker, ear hold me. But the hardest hit I
ever took in the Washington uniform was in a spring game.
Wow from Fred Small was a linebacker drafted the Steelers.
I mean, he got up underneath my chin. But even
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if you said, okay, we're not gonna have contact to
the quarterbacks, the idea was that you know that you
have have a few battles. Maybe it's corner, maybe it's quarterback,
maybe it's center, maybe it's kicker, but you want to
put them in a pressure situation to evaluate how they
do and try and make the spring game have as
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much pressure.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
That's that's a lot for me to chew on.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Let's head down to PORI and X and talk with
Bucky Jacobs and the Mariner season is over because they're
only one in Cactus League play. I mean, it's it's
all over for them. It's all downhill from here. Bucky
Jacobson next on ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 10 (18:55):
My from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Safie and Dick Gone your home for
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Speaker 4 (19:07):
Are you feeling the pressure of this? Come on, boys,
let's do this. I believe in you. It's time to
kind of put up a shut up.
Speaker 11 (19:14):
I can't. This is the easiest answer to that question.
I can't because if I succumb to that pressure and
everybody feels it, If I succumb to that pressure, I
do the fans of the Mariners a great disservice. I
do the Mariners organization a great disservice. I do the
people that I work with every day and who trust
me to make good decisions a great disservice.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Just a portion of just a fabulous interview with Jerry
Depoto from our guys Chuck and Buck in the morning.
You can hear that interview in its entirety immediately after.
Hugh and Jackson and I are done at six o'clock today,
and we want to thank Chuck and Buck for being
down there because it saves us an hour of work
every single day this week. It's true because we've been
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replaying Chuck and Buck highlights from six to seven every day,
which you know, honestly, I think, Jackson, we should replay
Chuck and Buck highlights every day.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, from six to I think, I think, I mean,
really we played the entires.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I don't know, Bucky, seven o'clock hour, Ye, whatever your best.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Hour is, just send it to Jackson and we're gonna
put it on the air at six o'clock.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
So, uh, good to talk Bucky.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yes, absolute, we'll give you some We'll give you some roltis.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
But first before we talk about any baseball, Buck, we
got to find out where exactly are you right now?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I right now am sitting in the kitchen of one
Great humill In crushing the food in his pantry.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Us in one room. You're in the kitchen. What have
you hammered so far?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Where are we at the whole Food and Beverage Department?
Here at what would be five thirty three mountain time.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I am, uh, well, I'll tell you this, Hugh makes
a great margarita. I'm four those deep two cours lights.
I just had four strips of turkey bacon, about two
handfuls of grapes, some tortilla chips, and I snuck a
cliff bar out of the pantry as well. So I'm
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good start so far. I love when he goes back
in the office and is on the radio with you,
because I'm just out here crushing.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Oh that is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Who could hammer the training table better? You in your
prime or brand new Mariner? Rowdy Tella's who I think
tips the scales at about two seventy.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
What table like the spread table?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, the spread table, whatever you call it. You don't
call the training table the spread table. And after a
baseball game.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Yeah, training tables where you go get your body fixed up.
I mean I spent plenty of time on that as well,
but usually the stuff in my hands from the spread table.
I don't know. This is weird now. I mean he's
the third one. I would say, maybe the fourth one.
There was day holy people compared to me didn't look
that sloppy, then vogel Beck. I was far from that
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sloppy then what Ford. What people loved me and with
those guys was not like that. When I played Okay,
six four two eighty five, kind of in shape, I
mean in better shape than those slobbies. Now, I would
say Rowdy is probably the least of all of those
or the most just naturally big guy. But if we're
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going to talk about spread crushing, there's not very many
that could touch me. I would literally walk into the clubhouse.
Everyone else would go to their locker immediately and started
unpacking their bag. If it wasn't already unpacked, start getting dressed.
I went straight to the spread table. I would go
first and foremost. If there was Reese's peanut butter cups,
I opened them up. I crushed one. I turned to
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the rest of the team and said, hey, guys, Reese's
peanut butter cups are safe. You guys can go ahead
with that, And I just made my way around the
rest of the spread table as a service to my
teammates to make sure everything was safe.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
To say, if yeah, you're like the rasp buttant, right,
you test the you test all the food.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Make sure it's not poisoned exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
All right, Well I didn't.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
I wasn't gonna let you go back and tell stories
about how we were resource depleted here. So after we
get off, the freezer has oreos ice cream sandwiches. So
did knock yourself out a full, big old Costco box.
All right, so you'll be I have not.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
I haven't checked the freezer yet, but you're saying this oreos.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
O ice cream sandwich. Yeah, yeah, yeah, dig for those.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Let's let's go back to Jackson played the little clip
there you're you're at Depoto. That was a h That
was a nice U pointed question that you asked him
in terms of just like, hey, dude, are you feeling
the pressure at you know? Obviously the intimation was like, uh,
you know, are you Are you feeling pressure for your
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job that you haven't produced enough with this baseball team?
First of all, before your reaction, maybe share with us.
Did he bristle? I mean, what what are the things
we're on radio? We're not on TV? Did I know
he was standing up and you guys were sitting down.
That seemed like a little bit of a flex. But
did did he did he recoil or what was what
was his Was there anything noteworthy about his body language?
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And then your your reaction to his reply?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Well, for what it's worth, I actually video taped that
so I could share on social media because rich More
loves when we do things like that. So I actually
stood up to ask that question, which little little shift
grou on the old.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
All done?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean I might not look like the
brightest guy, but I did go to school for social works.
So you want to play my games, I'll play. I'll
sit down for a second, and then when I'm gonna
ask you how you feel about your job and the
security there there is or isn't. Who knows, I might
stand up and then you're going to be back to
looking up to me. But I mean, there was a
little bit of a bristle, but it wasn't hard nose.
(24:59):
I mean, I just, first and foremost want to give
the dude credit. We asked him some pointed questions or
direct question. We weren't trying to go for blood or
get a gotcha moment, but we were gonna ask some questions.
I mean, they're to me. I don't I guess eight
years in I should feel like a guy that's part
of the media. I don't. I'm just asking as a fan,
a former player, Hey, dude, how are you feeling because
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you know that you have to hear the noise from
the outside that nine years in and you've got one
playoff appearance, and so I mean, I asked him he
was He waited until I finished the question, and it
was basically, as you guys just heard. It was, are
you feeling the pressure because you're telling me that you
believe in these guys and the fact that you are
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not making a bunch of moves. You're telling them, Hey,
I believe you're not as bad as you showed last year.
If we're speaking about the offense, and he says, I
can't right now, that isn't I can't feel the pressure,
because he went on to say everybody feels the pressure.
I can't succumb to the pressure. And I will say this,
that is a good answer, that is somewhat true. I
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do believe that he hasn't succumbed to the pressure because
I've seen plenty of times across multiple sports. But I'll
just stick in baseball. I can remember multiple gms that
are four years into their tenure. If you will and
they got a four year contract and all of a sudden,
they haven't done anything. And next thing you know, they're
feeling their seat warm up a little bit and boom,
(26:29):
what do they do. They go sell the farm. They
go spend everything they possibly can in free agency. This
is my last ditch efforts, my hail mary to save
my job, and it may or may not work out.
Now he's the opposite of throwing a hail mary, But
he went on to say in that part of the interview,
I refuse to make a core mistake or some rash judgment.
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So it's not that he likes where they're at, and
he'll pick and choose some of the stats about the
You know, the only teams to win eighty six plus
games for four straight years, there's only two of them when
the American League and the Mariners are one. Okay, fine,
I just want to get in the playoffs, and then
I want to make a deep run of the playoffs.
I don't really care if we have some imaginary number,
whether it's fifty four percent or eighty six wins or
I don't care. I just want to win, and I
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want to get in the playoffs and have a bunch
of bites at the Apple to try to win a
World Series, and I think that he's a little bit
in love with all the prospects, which to some degree,
that is the way if you are running on a
restricted budget, you have to build from within. But you
don't only have to build from within, and you have
to you don't have enough room for all those prospects
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that you love in the minor leagues. There's not enough
positions in the big leagues problem. So if you have
to trade two of them away, or three of them away,
or whatever it might be to get approven quality versus
a proven bat versus somebody you think might be better,
cheaper for longer, then those are moves that I think
everybody has the right to be a little bit disappointed in.
But the fact that he's just saying, yeah, I feel pressure.
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You're gonna feel pressure when you're part of a professional
athletic organization, whether it's from office or whether it's a player.
But I can't succumb to it because then I'm letting
everybody down. Whether people want to hate on Jerry Depote
or not, it's true he doesn't want to let the
fans down as much as you might talk down to
him or step on a rake when it comes to
how he words things. He doesn't want to let him down.
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He wants to be right, he wants to be good.
And I think that he's not making a he's very
scared of making a poor decision because he hears what's
going on on the outside the noise.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Well, you guys did a great job on that interview.
Tip of the cap to that, and you were amazingly
eloquent over the last ten minutes after pounding four margaritas
in Hugh's kitchen. So happen in two cores lights, So
have a have a frozen oreo for me, Buck, and
we'll talk to you next week when you get home.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
All right, I'll.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Report back on what oreos dipped in. Marguerite is like.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Oh God, that doesn't sound I love I love him both.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I don't think I love him together.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
I want to get him to the condition where he
would actually do that.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
That's my goal for tonight.
But we have so much good fun with audio that
we did not want to have wasted by the end
of the weekend or by the beginning of the weekend.
Rather that we're going to do it here in our
big long seven to four o'clock. But I do want
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
All right, we ready for this. You get the button?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Ready, have the button?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We're all good. We are ready for some fun. Hey, hu,
did you hear that? What's that?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
After the Lakers win of the Blazers last night, in
which forty year old Lebron James contributed forty points on
fourteen of twenty four, four of eight from three point range,
eight of eight from the free throw line, eight rebounds,
four assists, a block, two steals, and a partridge in
a pear tree head coach JJ Reddick wax poetic about
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his Lebron's commitment to the game.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
He really just defies.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Anything that's normal, and not just the physical feats and
the plays.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It's the mentality he is again. He's I believe I saw.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
The other day he's a billionaire and he's playing on
the second night of a back to back at forty
after twenty two years, with every fricking record and every accolade,
and the kids will say.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That I'm glazing him.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
He's one of the greatest competitors, and he's amazing to coach.
He's he brings it every single day like it's he
sets the standard for how you're supposed to approach this craft.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I think I understand now why Lebron James didn't play
in the All Star Game and got a whole bunch
of crap for it, because lots of people love to
give Lebron James crap.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I think he.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Didn't want to play because Hugh he knew what kind
of a bleep show the All Star Game was going
to be, and he was like, I want no part
of that. I want to focus on winning games for
my team. And he went out two nights in a row,
didn't get it, got a great game against Charlotte, didn't
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get it done at the end, had another great game
against Portland, did get it done, and they've won twelve
of the last sixteen games.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Well, I'm not in his head, none of us are.
We don't know.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
I mean, that's possible, it's plausible. Look, I don't think
anybody is disputing Lebron. Detractors are not going to try
and refute one thing that was uttered there. That's not
where the debate about Lebron lies. That he's a great player,
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that he's a competitive player, that he's a motivated player.
All of that is is conceded by Lebron detractors. It's
it's the other thing. So look, he's uh, you know,
we'll see what happens at the end of his career.
Right now, he's got four rings. Michael has six. I
think it's harder to make a mathematical based argument that
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Michael is the greatest basketball player than it is that
Gretzky's the greatest hockey player, that Tom Brady is the
greatest football player. You know, particularly in light of the fact,
you know, Bill Russell has eleven rings, and there's many
that have more than six. There's there's a handful that
have eight or nine.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Does Lebron in your mind, have to get to six.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
To be considered greater than Jordan.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yes, does he have to get the six because he's
gotten many, many, many more finals than Jordan.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
Well, first of all, it's every individual fan, every individual fan,
they have their criterion for our criteria for what makes
a a guy the goat. And I could I conceive
of a of a scenario where he gets to five
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and he's still he's considered greater than Michael. Possibly, but
not for me. Okay, I think Michael Jordan's the greatest
athlete I've ever seen in any sport. And yet I
will say it's a lot easier to argue that Tom
Brady's the greatest football player than it is that Michael
Jordan is the greatest basketball player. Yet I think Michael
is the greatest, not only the greatest basketball player, is
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the greatest athlete.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
That's what I value.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
It's what he showed more of what I value in
an athlete that makes me feel he's the greatest athlete
I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I want to.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Touch on that a little bit later on the show,
so we'll hold that thought.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
But hey, huge, you hear that?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
After the success of the Four Nations Tournament, steven A
shared his take on how An NBA version of an
American versus international team tournament would actually go.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
I can't sell it because Team USA is fair. They'll
get the ass kicked by those is from those international players.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
They will.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
But Steven Night, Molly, Molly, I'm gonna say it on
national television. The international players will bust their living behinds.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yes, they would, all right.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
Not just because their skill sets on par with them,
but because their care and they're compelled by their audience
from their homelands more so than that. So the level
of fervor that they would bring to the table, if
you understand, you gotta remember look at the Limptic competition
and look at how stiff it has gotten collectively. Those
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players internationally collectively on respective teams.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Don't compare the Team USA. But they gave him a
rough of their money.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Why because they go all out because they ain't playing.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
It's like that, I buy what he's selling.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I mean, we barely beat France, and we had a
hell of a lot more talent than France did. Now,
if you put now, France played together for a long time,
and I think you know can activity on a basketball
team means a lot. But man, you put Giannis and
Luca and the Joker on the same team. I mean, Wemby,
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I mean, you're you're getting a team that is every bit,
if not more so, talented than the top five Americans
can be. And I think he's right about the motivation.
The international players probably would have motivation, more motivation than
the US players.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Maybe they would. I would.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
I'd hope that's not the case. I would hope that
there'd be a leader. You know, Steve Kerr I had
an interesting comment in the Olympics. He said, we're the
only athletes in the Olympics where if we get a
silver medal, we are shamed by our fans. And that's
just part of being an American basketball player, like it
or not. I think that that could be an indictment.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
You know, the.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Referenced Jerry Colangelo and and his belief as the head
of USA basket Ball that Kobe Bryant was going to
be the leader. They would change the mindset, right, And
it was described, you know that the Krzyzewski's up there
and he's trying to figure out how to get everybody united,
and Lebron and Mellow are in the back Cadillac in it,
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and it was Kobe Bryant in row one of the
meeting room with his notebook out with a pencil, and
everybody else was in the back, and he was sitting
in the fifty yard line in row one, And famously
he would do his five am workouts. And then it
was Dwayne Wade who was the next guy because he
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had idolized Kobe. When Dwayne Wade learned that Kobe was
getting up at five am, then Dwayne Wade did it,
So then it was two and then I'm not sure
who the next word, but within a matter of days
or perhaps a week or two, whatever the timeframe was,
pretty soon the entire team was getting up at five
in the morning because and Kobe was originally doing it
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by himself.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
So if what Stephen A.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Smith said is true, then the recipe is to have
somebody as great as Kobe who has the pride of Kobe.
And if you read the stories that I've read, Lebron
wouldn't won them.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Had not then now Lebron, Lebron's forty, Now, I mean
you would think this maturity level is greater than it
was twelve years.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Well, he certainly would have the impact to lead, Yeah,
but uh, that would be my respect and in essence,
I'm agreen with Stephen A. Smith potentially in that. Look,
if the United States is not motivated, then they would
get their butt kicked, right, because as you said, there
was there was teams, individual European teams that could be competitive.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Now you unite them.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
You know, Luca and and Jokic and and all that,
you know, Jannis and all of them, the born players
all together.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yes, just even on and Wemby and you know weby.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
We don't have American MVP in six years, Hugh in
the NBA, I mean, it's been a long time since.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
But I think there would have to be the best
player in the league.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
There'd have to be somebody at the forefront, like you know,
who just is a great player and the leader. You know,
the memes were going around when this when when Tom
Brady was down by twenty five points in the Super Bowl,
he's he's up and down the.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Side, keeping it go go, keeping it.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Into it, and you know, God bless Mahomes, but he
just what apparently wasn't bringing that kind of leadership. So
I think I think that the American basketball team, you know,
the you know, obviously a basketball teams call it twelve players,
but the seven or eight or nine, whatever the rotation is,
the best nine players, uh in the United States at
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any given time, I think are better than the best
nine in the world. Of course that gap is closing us.
But if the Americans aren't motivated, don't have that Kobe
kill switch.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Slammed, then they would lose absolutely. Hey, huge, you hear that?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
What's that dick?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
On the NBA on t n T last night? They
were actually talking hockey on the NBA on tn T.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Good for them.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Charles Barkley shared his reaction to Canada taking down Team US.
Speaker 8 (10:14):
And listen, Jordan Bennington, you stood on your head. I'm
not gonna be a bad loser. Congratulations to Canada. Uh sorry,
I'm sorry we got the tariffs on you.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Of the hockey game. I think they were playing hot.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
They playing hot, caught the terrifor they didn't want to
be to fit the first state.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
That's the motivation.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
God load Chuck and God loved the fact that.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I mean, they're just you know, we talked about Sean
McDonough being the perfect play by play guy. I have
a tough time finding a more perfect studio, ever, than
than the NBA on on TNT and you know, just
being able to Hey, you know what, we're gonna talk
about the NBA right now, We're gonna talk about hockey
right now, and we're gonna make it entertain.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Well, I would say the all time greatest mouthpieces former athletes.
I think Muhammad Ali's number one. You want, you every
want to go down a rabbit hole, just get on
YouTube and go Muhammad Ali interviews and you know, whether
it's the Dick Cavitt Show or what you know, like
he was, you know, obviously he brings the weight of
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who he is and how he stood the social justice
aspect of it, but also immensely colorful how he tells stories.
Oh so, Muhammad Ali's number one, but I could easily
put slot Charles Barkley right in there at number two.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well time, speaking of Charles, Hey, Hughes, you hear that?
What's that?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Dad?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Let's hear some more from Chuck. So yesterday on the show,
we heard that Steven A.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Smith. We played this yesterday, Steven A.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Smith said that an international player cannot be the face
of the NBA. Well, Charles Barkley heard that comment and
here was his response.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
Can I say one more thing.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
I saw some guys on another at work the other
day talking about face of the league, and I was
so annoyed just sitting around watching.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
You know.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
Jerry started with Kevin Durant was talking about weinby being Philly.
First of all, you don't give anybody the face of
the league?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Am I right?
Speaker 8 (12:15):
Shack Shaq took being faced Mike, when Matti Johnson, Lara
Bird came in. They're like with the new sheriffs in town.
Shaq took it, Kobe took it, Lebron took it, Steph
took it. But I get so annoyed when I hear
these guys like, you don't give somebody something. That's one
of the problems we got. These idiots won't play an
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All Star game. We've given them so much. They don't
have no respect for the history. But you don't give
anybody the face of the game.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
You take it.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I think that's right.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I mean, I think I think it will organically happen.
But to steven A's point that we played yesterday, I
think I'm not going to say it's impossible for a
Luca or a Wemby or somebody like that to be
the face of the league. But it's an American sport.
It's always been an American sport. The international side of
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it came way later than the American side. When I
was growing up, there wasn't international basketball like this.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I mean, and I'm not that old.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I mean, it's only in the last twenty years or
so that we've had a lot of international players. So
I think it would be very hard for an international
player to organically become the face of the league.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Well, I think they're arguing two different points. I think
that steven A. Smith was saying whether it's taken or
whether it's given, just the idea that bright whoever emerges
through whatever mechanism, whoever what steven A Smith was saying,
as he doesn't think that the NBA can thrive if
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the if the premier face, the face of the league,
the best player is a foreign born player. And Charles
Barkley wasn't really addressing that. He was he was focused
on how do you get that title?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Is it something that we well?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
To me?
Speaker 6 (14:04):
That could be semantics because you say, well, who gives
the title?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
It's the guy who took it? Does that make sense?
Speaker 6 (14:10):
How? How did how did we ever say Michael Jordan
is the face of the NBA. When Magic Johnson and
Larry Bird were a few years ago, Michael I wasn't
in the media then, but the media gave Michael the
title because Michael took it. That's right, that's and and
and so it's it's like, I don't I don't really
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see a distinction. I think we all know when a
guy becomes the face of the league. And if there
is a player with enough, who's skilled, dominant enough, with
a with a style to his game, and then has charism.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Those three things.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
From a from a foreigner, I think that that a
player could.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Be a foreigner and be the face of the NBA.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Tim Duncan won what four championships and was never the
face of the league because there was no charisma there.
What one more?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Hey, huge, you hear that?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Let's talk some college football and Ky Adams up and
Adams Show. Yesterday, our old friend Sark announced that Texas
will not be having a spring game.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And why is that?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Sark?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Should I have been making plans to come back for
this since I'm a fan out to the spring game?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Is that a spring practice? You're gonna come to spring practice,
spring game. No, we're not going to have a spring game.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Wow, breaking news. You're the best coach Sert and just.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
Well, I think a couple of reasons why. Over the
last two years, we've played thirty games. Yeah, that's a
lot for college football fourteen two years ago, sixteen this year.
And I just mentioned we've had twenty five guys get
invited to the NFL Combine in the last two years,
so we've got a lot of young players on our roster.
We have twenty one mid year high school kids that
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just showed up, and so the development that's needed for
these guys to get ready for the fall is a
little bit different than it used to be, and so
our approach is going to be a little bit more
NFL driven, kind of more of an Ota style early on,
and as we grow into more of the scrimmage formats
in the second half of spring ball that I just
don't know, rolling the ball out, playing the game and
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when we only get fifteen practices is the best for
us to maximize the opportunities that we get.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
So it's going to be a little bit of different approach.
Speaker 9 (16:21):
But I think college football is changing right now and
we need to do a great job as coaches of
adapting to college football.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
You know, it starts the same age as me.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
And he still sounds exactly like he did when he
took over the Husky job at thirty five, Like he
still sounds like he's in his thirties. But so you
got him saying, you know, we got too many games.
You've got Matt ruhleot Nebraska saying we don't want other
teams to steal our signs by watching the spring game
on television.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Seems like it's a dying breed. Should it be here?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Well?
Speaker 6 (16:52):
I think also, you know, I know last year Jedfish
with the transfers. You know, you're you're you're trying to
get guys in this different times of the year, the
games are pushed back.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, hey, nothing surprised me. No changes.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
I felt like Sark was a little bit scattered there
trying to tie those Okay, they played thirty games, but
then he starts talking about how young they are, the
mid year high school guys, and that they want to
do more O T.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Eight uh O T eight style. That's that's interesting.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Usually I think that the benefit has been that you
want to rev them up and and see how they
compete in a situation that most resembles a game. I
mean when I played in a spring game, there was
no red jersey at Washington.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
We wore purple jerseys.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
You take a huge shot in the spring game, yeah, Fred.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Small, Yeah it was. There was another front page of
the Seattle Times.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Man.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
I was parallel to the ground and he hit me it. Now,
that wasn't the hardest hit I ever took. I took
a shot against the Jets and the metal lands from
a linebacker, ear hold me. But the hardest hit I
ever took in the Washington uniform was in a spring game.
Wow from Fred Small was a linebacker drafted the Steelers.
I mean, he got up underneath my chin. But even
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if you said, okay, we're not gonna have contact to
the quarterbacks, the idea was that you know that you
have have a few battles. Maybe it's corner, maybe it's quarterback,
maybe it's center, maybe it's kicker, but you want to
put them in a pressure situation to evaluate how they
do and try and make the spring game have as
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much pressure.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
That's that's a lot for me to chew on.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Let's head down to PORI and X and talk with
Bucky Jacobs and the Mariner season is over because they're
only one in Cactus League play. I mean, it's it's
all over for them. It's all downhill from here. Bucky
Jacobson next on ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 10 (18:55):
My from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Safie and Dick Gone your home for
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Speaker 4 (19:07):
Are you feeling the pressure of this? Come on, boys,
let's do this. I believe in you. It's time to
kind of put up a shut up.
Speaker 11 (19:14):
I can't. This is the easiest answer to that question.
I can't because if I succumb to that pressure and
everybody feels it, If I succumb to that pressure, I
do the fans of the Mariners a great disservice. I
do the Mariners organization a great disservice. I do the
people that I work with every day and who trust
me to make good decisions a great disservice.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Just a portion of just a fabulous interview with Jerry
Depoto from our guys Chuck and Buck in the morning.
You can hear that interview in its entirety immediately after.
Hugh and Jackson and I are done at six o'clock today,
and we want to thank Chuck and Buck for being
down there because it saves us an hour of work
every single day this week. It's true because we've been
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replaying Chuck and Buck highlights from six to seven every day,
which you know, honestly, I think, Jackson, we should replay
Chuck and Buck highlights every day.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, from six to I think, I think, I mean,
really we played the entires.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I don't know, Bucky, seven o'clock hour, Ye, whatever your best.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Hour is, just send it to Jackson and we're gonna
put it on the air at six o'clock.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
So, uh, good to talk Bucky.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yes, absolute, we'll give you some We'll give you some roltis.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
But first before we talk about any baseball, Buck, we
got to find out where exactly are you right now?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I right now am sitting in the kitchen of one
Great humill In crushing the food in his pantry.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Us in one room. You're in the kitchen. What have
you hammered so far?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Where are we at the whole Food and Beverage Department?
Here at what would be five thirty three mountain time.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I am, uh, well, I'll tell you this, Hugh makes
a great margarita. I'm four those deep two cours lights.
I just had four strips of turkey bacon, about two
handfuls of grapes, some tortilla chips, and I snuck a
cliff bar out of the pantry as well. So I'm
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good start so far. I love when he goes back
in the office and is on the radio with you,
because I'm just out here crushing.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Oh that is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Who could hammer the training table better? You in your
prime or brand new Mariner? Rowdy Tella's who I think
tips the scales at about two seventy.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
What table like the spread table?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, the spread table, whatever you call it. You don't
call the training table the spread table. And after a
baseball game.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Yeah, training tables where you go get your body fixed up.
I mean I spent plenty of time on that as well,
but usually the stuff in my hands from the spread table.
I don't know. This is weird now. I mean he's
the third one. I would say, maybe the fourth one.
There was day holy people compared to me didn't look
that sloppy, then vogel Beck. I was far from that
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sloppy then what Ford. What people loved me and with
those guys was not like that. When I played Okay,
six four two eighty five, kind of in shape, I
mean in better shape than those slobbies. Now, I would
say Rowdy is probably the least of all of those
or the most just naturally big guy. But if we're
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going to talk about spread crushing, there's not very many
that could touch me. I would literally walk into the clubhouse.
Everyone else would go to their locker immediately and started
unpacking their bag. If it wasn't already unpacked, start getting dressed.
I went straight to the spread table. I would go
first and foremost. If there was Reese's peanut butter cups,
I opened them up. I crushed one. I turned to
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the rest of the team and said, hey, guys, Reese's
peanut butter cups are safe. You guys can go ahead
with that, And I just made my way around the
rest of the spread table as a service to my
teammates to make sure everything was safe.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
To say, if yeah, you're like the rasp buttant, right,
you test the you test all the food.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Make sure it's not poisoned exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
All right, Well I didn't.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
I wasn't gonna let you go back and tell stories
about how we were resource depleted here. So after we
get off, the freezer has oreos ice cream sandwiches. So
did knock yourself out a full, big old Costco box.
All right, so you'll be I have not.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
I haven't checked the freezer yet, but you're saying this oreos.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
O ice cream sandwich. Yeah, yeah, yeah, dig for those.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Let's let's go back to Jackson played the little clip
there you're you're at Depoto. That was a h That
was a nice U pointed question that you asked him
in terms of just like, hey, dude, are you feeling
the pressure at you know? Obviously the intimation was like, uh,
you know, are you Are you feeling pressure for your
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job that you haven't produced enough with this baseball team?
First of all, before your reaction, maybe share with us.
Did he bristle? I mean, what what are the things
we're on radio? We're not on TV? Did I know
he was standing up and you guys were sitting down.
That seemed like a little bit of a flex. But
did did he did he recoil or what was what
was his Was there anything noteworthy about his body language?
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And then your your reaction to his reply?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Well, for what it's worth, I actually video taped that
so I could share on social media because rich More
loves when we do things like that. So I actually
stood up to ask that question, which little little shift
grou on the old.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
All done?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean I might not look like the
brightest guy, but I did go to school for social works.
So you want to play my games, I'll play. I'll
sit down for a second, and then when I'm gonna
ask you how you feel about your job and the
security there there is or isn't. Who knows, I might
stand up and then you're going to be back to
looking up to me. But I mean, there was a
little bit of a bristle, but it wasn't hard nose.
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I mean, I just, first and foremost want to give
the dude credit. We asked him some pointed questions or
direct question. We weren't trying to go for blood or
get a gotcha moment, but we were gonna ask some questions.
I mean, they're to me. I don't I guess eight
years in I should feel like a guy that's part
of the media. I don't. I'm just asking as a fan,
a former player, Hey, dude, how are you feeling because
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you know that you have to hear the noise from
the outside that nine years in and you've got one
playoff appearance, and so I mean, I asked him he
was He waited until I finished the question, and it
was basically, as you guys just heard. It was, are
you feeling the pressure because you're telling me that you
believe in these guys and the fact that you are
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not making a bunch of moves. You're telling them, Hey,
I believe you're not as bad as you showed last year.
If we're speaking about the offense, and he says, I
can't right now, that isn't I can't feel the pressure,
because he went on to say everybody feels the pressure.
I can't succumb to the pressure. And I will say this,
that is a good answer, that is somewhat true. I
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do believe that he hasn't succumbed to the pressure because
I've seen plenty of times across multiple sports. But I'll
just stick in baseball. I can remember multiple gms that
are four years into their tenure. If you will and
they got a four year contract and all of a sudden,
they haven't done anything. And next thing you know, they're
feeling their seat warm up a little bit and boom,
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what do they do. They go sell the farm. They
go spend everything they possibly can in free agency. This
is my last ditch efforts, my hail mary to save
my job, and it may or may not work out.
Now he's the opposite of throwing a hail mary, But
he went on to say in that part of the interview,
I refuse to make a core mistake or some rash judgment.
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So it's not that he likes where they're at, and
he'll pick and choose some of the stats about the
You know, the only teams to win eighty six plus
games for four straight years, there's only two of them when
the American League and the Mariners are one. Okay, fine,
I just want to get in the playoffs, and then
I want to make a deep run of the playoffs.
I don't really care if we have some imaginary number,
whether it's fifty four percent or eighty six wins or
I don't care. I just want to win, and I
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want to get in the playoffs and have a bunch
of bites at the Apple to try to win a
World Series, and I think that he's a little bit
in love with all the prospects, which to some degree,
that is the way if you are running on a
restricted budget, you have to build from within. But you
don't only have to build from within, and you have
to you don't have enough room for all those prospects
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that you love in the minor leagues. There's not enough
positions in the big leagues problem. So if you have
to trade two of them away, or three of them away,
or whatever it might be to get approven quality versus
a proven bat versus somebody you think might be better,
cheaper for longer, then those are moves that I think
everybody has the right to be a little bit disappointed in.
But the fact that he's just saying, yeah, I feel pressure.
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You're gonna feel pressure when you're part of a professional
athletic organization, whether it's from office or whether it's a player.
But I can't succumb to it because then I'm letting
everybody down. Whether people want to hate on Jerry Depote
or not, it's true he doesn't want to let the
fans down as much as you might talk down to
him or step on a rake when it comes to
how he words things. He doesn't want to let him down.
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He wants to be right, he wants to be good.
And I think that he's not making a he's very
scared of making a poor decision because he hears what's
going on on the outside the noise.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Well, you guys did a great job on that interview.
Tip of the cap to that, and you were amazingly
eloquent over the last ten minutes after pounding four margaritas
in Hugh's kitchen. So happen in two cores lights, So
have a have a frozen oreo for me, Buck, and
we'll talk to you next week when you get home.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
All right, I'll.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Report back on what oreos dipped in. Marguerite is like.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Oh God, that doesn't sound I love I love him both.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I don't think I love him together.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
I want to get him to the condition where he
would actually do that.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
That's my goal for tonight.
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