March 11, 2025 • 28 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain give away some Kraken tickets, remember Covid stopping the sports world five years ago today, then visit with Gregg Bell to talk about what the Seahawks have done in free agency so far and what’s next.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Cracking back at it tomorrow against Montreal Boys have lost
five of seven fading and fading fast twenty seven thirty
four and four. The host the Canadians, and we got
tickets for that game to give away. By the way,
in a minute seven o'clock pre game seven thirty face
off tomorrow right here on ninety three three KJR FM,
Did you do the tiger Wood story? By the way,
(00:21):
do the tiger Wood story? Tiger Woods ruptured.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Achilles had surgery this morning, expected to make a full recovery.
But I think you can probably rule out any tournaments
for the rest of twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Is he our age? By the way, is he fifty?
Is forty nine? Is just a year younger than nine?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, he'll be fifty on December thirtieth, nineteen seventy five.
He was born fifty years old. God, I still remember
Tiger Woods on the Was it the Mike Wallace Show?
That the show he was on? Not the Mike Wallace Show.
What was the show he was on when he was
a kid he was three years olson? No, it was
Mike Douglass. Sorry, Mike Douglas. Mike Douglas, not Mike Wallace.
(00:59):
Mike Waller is the TV newscaster, right, yeah, by the
Mike Douglass Show. And here we are forty seven years
later and Tiger Woods is maybe the greatest golfer in
the history of the of the sport.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
For giving my ignorance, is that the same Mike Douglas
as Michael Douglas.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
H No, no different, no different guy. I do not
remember the Mike Dougle Michael Douglas from the famous movie
Falling Down. Yes, where the guy loses his mind in LA.
Have you seen that movie? But Jackuly phenomenal movie. Jackson
would like that the older I've noticed one thing out
of you that the order you get the grumpy or
you're getting about a lot of stuff you would love
(01:35):
Falling Down. Absolutely, Falling Down is about a guy who
simply had enough of everything and everybody when snaps.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I haven't well, I haven't seen it since I was
probably in my late twenties, so I should watch it
again because I'm way more like Falling Down guys than
I was when I was twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Totally so good. Great movie anyway, uh five years ago.
Tonight we'll get to the NFL at a second. By
the way, for those that are two in. The Seahawks
have done nothing so far today, No surprise there. There's
a bunch of news in the NFL. We gave it
to you and the update Daniel Jones going to the Colts.
Texans picked up an Eagle safety CJ. Gardner Johnson, Vikings
got Will Fries Right, that's the guard that everybody wanted
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here in Seattle from the Colts, Is that correct? Who
was Will fries with the year as from the Colts
drafted right, and so he got a five year, eighty
eight million dollar deal from Minnesota, don't you know. And
our buddy Corbyn Smith, the Mutton shot Man, reported the
Seahawks offered him three years and the Vikings gave him
five years. So of course he's a Viking and not
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a Seahawks. So nothing new today in regards to anything
of significance with the Seahawks. Looks like DeAndre Hopkins, by
the way, is going to Baltimore to play with Lamar Jackson.
That just came down courtesy a rap sheet from the Chiefs.
So Baltimore's got a new wide receiver. There are some
wide receivers that will be available in free agency. I mean,
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do any of these names flo out your boat, Cooper Cup, yes,
Keenan Allen, Stefan Diggs, Marii, Cooper, Darius Slayton. And how
about this for another one, Tyler Lockett on a one year,
greatly reduced contract to return to the series.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I'm fine with that. I'm fine with Cooper Cup. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Cooper Cup and Tyler Lockett might be repetundon I agree, so,
but I would like to get one of those two
guys back, and I might want to try Cooper just
for something different, just a little change.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, I mean, I guess, you know, I just wonder
if he's washed. Man, I don't know. I mean, the
I think they're both probably was well the cliff.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
The cliff in the NFL is steep, right, Yeah, I mean,
there's really no kind of gradual decline, like you either
can play or you can't. I mean, they they walk
you right up to the train station like in Yellowstone,
and they shove your right off. I mean, maybe you'll
get the bus stop where you can keep going. But
the trains, you guys watch Yellowstone at all, by the way,
I have seen some episodes, but I watch the train
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stations where they go to dispose of you. Okay, it's
like on the Wyoming Border right. If you ever watched it,
you know what I'm talking about. But there is no
real gradual declient in the NFL. You're either in or
you're out. So I mean, I have no problem bringing
him back on a non guaranteed deal if that's what
he wants to do. That seems to be kind of
not the Seahawk way to treat a guy like that.
He's been here for ten years, he's a ring of
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honor member. Having him come back and have to earn
his spot on the roster like a regular schnook in
trading camp with everybody else. You know, I would tell him,
if I were John Schneider, exactly what I told Richard Sherman,
but I would actually maybe consider matching an offer this time.
And that is, Hey, go out and see what you
can get, right, do what's best for you, do what's
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best for your family. Make as much money as you
can to promote your real estate company and get some
billboards and blah blah blah, and then come back to
us and if you find something, we can talk about it.
But here's where we're at. We're looking to get younger.
We're looking to get bigger. With DK Metcalf now gone.
We got to replace you. We got to replace DK.
We got to find some freakin' linemen. Blah blah blah.
(04:56):
So go out and see what you can do. I'm
not sure if I can imagine the Seahawks even other
to ask Lockett to do something.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
The Seahawk way, I guess is more like letting a
guy go and play a couple of years someplace else
and then bringing him back for his swan song.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Right, that would be to see, like if.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Tyler Lockett had a year or two pretty decent years
someplace else, and the Seahawks are like in twenty twenty
seven eight, he's thirty five, he can still kind of
play a little bit. We'll give you a one year,
three million dollar deal to finish your career here.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Hey, by the way, if you want to take your
buddy or significant other or kid, whatever, nephew, friend, or
just grab some random person off the street to the
Kraken Montreal game tomorrow, we got a pair of tickets
that has come available for tomorrow night's game. We're going
to start the bidding at five hundred bucks. Do I
hear five hundred dollars on the web. But far no,
(05:44):
I'm kidding. Text in Jackson to four nine, four to
five to one and tell Jackson why you think you
should go. Maybe you got a son or a daughter,
never been to a game. I know a lot of
people that still have not been to a cracking game.
They've been here for four years now, and there's still
a lot of people that haven't been to a game.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
So you think you should go.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You want to take your kid, you want to take
your wife, your parent, whatever, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, blah,
blah blah. Text Jackson into four nine four or five
to one. The sappy year, the story, the better, and
I would feel free to make something up, by the way,
because Jackson in no way we'll try and confirm anything.
So just text them your story, your sob story to
four nine four five to one, and Jackson will pick
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one winner. We'll announce the winner on the year later
today for a pair of tickets for tomorrow. But five
years ago, tonight, five years ago tonight, you remember what
happened anybary, remember what happened five years ago tonight? You
dick me Jackson, all of us were still on the air,
five years ago tonight.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
We are not in this building.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
We were not well, we were we were on the
opposite side of the side.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yes, yes, not in this studio, yes, yea.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Five years ago tonight is when the world shut down,
when the NBA shut down Oklahoma City and Utah.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Remember that Rudy.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Go Bear, Rudy Go Bear breathed on the microphone, licked
the microphone, whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Hands all over all the microphones.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
All that stuff tested positive for COVID, and everybody started
to panic and the world gradually shut down. I thought
it'd be appropriate because I still remember being kind of
wigged out, to be honest with you at the time,
by everything going on. This is what our show sounded
like five years ago tonight, when the sports world and
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the world began to slowly shut itself down. So what
happened in the Oklahoma City Utah game in Oklahoma City tonight?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
What's the story out there?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
They were seconds away from tip off between the Jazz
and Thunder, and mysteriously they told both teams to go
back to the locker rooms without any reason given. Yeah,
and then now just a few seconds ago, after about
ten minutes of a delay, here he got on the
pa at the stadium and said that the game has
been postponed. No reasons given, but it looks like there's
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some discussion the fact that Rudy Gobert has an illness,
So that could be playing a role in this postpone.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well, I'm sure it is.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I'm sure anytime anybody gets sick, has a fever, is coughing,
anything like that.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I mean automatically we.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Knew Rudy Gobert was sick like this, Yes, So why,
I mean, why do you get to the point where
they have fans in the stands if.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
You know he's sick in the morning. I will add
this that Royce Young. Royce Young is a thunder reporter.
He said that a thunder Head medical staffer, Donnie Strack
just grabbed this is seconds before tip off, just grabbed
the three officials and told them something. All players were
then told to go back, so something. So some thunder
health official came and talked to the officials and then
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everything changed.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, like I said earlier, man, you can't be surprised
by any of this stuff. There's going to be panic
all over the sports world, and you were hearing reports
that the NBA may just kind of shut her down
for a while and let this thing hopefully pass and
then move on.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Maybe take a month off, take a couple of weeks off.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Whatever. We'll see what happens in the MLS. We'll see
what happened in the NHL. We'll see what happens with
the NCUBA. We know the NCUBLEA tournament. Mark Emmerton announcing
there will not be any fans in the stands for
the entirety of the March Madness tournament.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
No fans.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Okay, so that's step one. I asked you then on
the air off the year, could this lead to maybe
canceling the tournament altogether? And then you said, Jef good
Men reported today that they're talking about it, but trying
to obviously avoid that.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Two hours ago, I said I'd be shocked if they
canceled the in Cuba tournament. Now I'm less would be
less shocked. I mean, this is how fast things are moving.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
How could you be surprised at all if they just
said everything's canceled. And that's exactly what happened. Everything got canceled,
everything got shut down. And you remember that Rudy Gobert
was criticized for what he did with the microphone and
the postgame press conference. There was that after the game
got canceled, Rudy gober met with the media or was
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it before It was the day of Okay, so the
COVID thing had started to spread a little bit, and
Rudy Gobaert was making fun of it, kind of mocking
the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
And he was when they got sick, here's what happens.
I'm gonna lick the mic or breathe on the mic.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And then he was the one to get sick, and
he got treated like a lepper, that guy. I mean,
nobody wanted to be around that dude. And then they
shut down the NCAA tournament. And I mean, dude, I mean,
the the memories we've got of just going through that.
I don't know what yours are initially, but I remember
just wondering how the hell we're going to fill the time.
(10:32):
Number one, I don't think people knew how serious it was.
I remember when the governor was going to shut the
state down. I started freaking out, and like went to
the store and bought a bunch of non perishable food
to last for nine tons was pressed on the paper.
Stores were packed to the Gills with people. Peoria shut down,
the Mariners shut down, the NBA shut down, everything closed,
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and just thinking how are they going to do this?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
And then ESPN had that Game of Horse.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Remember that, where they literally took like a cell phone
feed and went to players' houses and did a FaceTime call.
And I appreciated them doing that, but man, the quality
was terrible. It was awful. It was like an amateur
hour for those guys. So I don't know how we'd
handle that again. If something like that ever came around again,
I know we'd be better prepared for it. Maybe wouldn't
be as nervous, you know, the second time around as
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we were the first time around, because let's face it,
nobody alive today had any idea how to manage that
because nobody had ever gone through it, and there was
so much paranoia. But many when they shut down that
Oklahoma City Utah game, Dick, that was, Oh my god,
this is getting serious and there's going to be a
lot of stuff that's not going to be happening.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I had the next break.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I remember calling my mom, she was in California, and
I said, I want you to go to Costco right now,
and I want you to buy a month's.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Worth of food. That's exactly what I said.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And she told me a few days later, She's like,
I'm glad you told me to go to Costa all right,
because I don't want to go to the store right now.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Right Well that I mean, yeah, your parents are nervous
about My mom and dad were in New Jersey on
nine to eleven, by the way, on that exact same day.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, and it was chaos, So I get it.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
But man, five years ago tonight is when everything got
shut down and the NBA began to kind of They
were the first ones right to kind of wave the
white flag and get this thing going. So curious about
your memories of that night. At four nine four five one.
Greg Bell is going to join us. Coming up next segment.
Mariners do have the day off today. By the way,
we're kind of just watching. I love when people say
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things like we're watching the wire. There really is no wire.
The wire's Twitter, okay, the wire is X that that's
what the sports wire has become. Remember the old thing
ticker we had the ticker Jackson. It was a dot
matrix machine that would leave print up a piece of paper.
I still have the print out from when McGuire broke
Meris' record in nineteen ninety eight. That was thirty whatever
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years ago. We're twenty eight years ago, twenty six years ago. Sorry,
and I'm bad at math. Now we're watching Twitter to
see if any news breaks, because everything breaks first on Twitter.
Nobody's going on twit and saying, hey, we have breaking
news regarding a signing by the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Turn on ESPN.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Now they're just giving it away, so everybody has access
to the wire. But the frustration that we talked about
earlier in the show and the four o'clock or the
three o'clock hour, sorry about the lack of activity by
the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Look, there still are some pretty big frickin' names out there,
and if they go out and signed a couple of
these guys on this list, the Makai Becton, Tevin Jenkins,
Josh Myers, Kevin Zeitler, I think Seahawks fans should be
pretty happy with that. If they can get a couple
names off this list between now and maybe the end
of the week.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, I mean the word I'm looking for is solidify.
Can you that doesn't mean stars. That doesn't mean spending
fourteen million dollars a player. That just means solidify. Give
me five. I just asked John Schneider on day one
of the regular.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Seasons, you know you asked him.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I will make sure that Ike knows can Can we
just have five NFL legit hitimate NFL starting offensive lineman
one through five on our line? Because that's because we
only have two right now, right and that's if Abe
Lucas is healthy. Ifl Abe Lucas somehow has the mysterious
knee in the in August and ah looks like Abe
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Lucas isn't going to play till October, then you could
have four holes on that line. Can we just get
a capable starter at every single one of the positions now?
And God bless Olu and Bradford and you know, Michael
Jarrell and Christian Haynes and Jalen Sundell and all those
guys that they got, Fine, put them on the roster,
but not as starters.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I want legitimate starters on this team.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Well, and look, there's plenty of guys out there to
do that. They just have to be willing to commit
to it, and I would trust them a lot more
to sign a veteran free agent offensive lineman who's already
established than to draft one and coach them into a
veteran offensive lineman who's already established. Like the new guy
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John Benton, right, new offensive line coach. I don't know
about you, guys. I am getting so tired of the
fans and the media telling me how great these coaches
are because they all come here as the new guy,
whether it's Ryan Grubb or whether it's Scott Huff or
whether it's Clint Kobiak, or whether it's Shane Waldron is
gonna be the guru. Andy Dickenson, whatever the hell that
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guy's name was, right, I mean he was running game.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Well, this guy's great, So look at his pedigree. Blah blah.
Would you shut up already?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I mean, honestly, like you just have a critical eye
in you say something critical about the guy. Well, he
screwed up here, he messed up there, because he's not perfect.
All these guys make mistakes. Obviously, they all make mistakes.
But this idea that all of a sudden, because you
have this new offensive line coach or this new offensive coordinator,
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when you have the same general manager that the same
problem is not gonna be the same problem is ludicrous
to me?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Well, Ludicris, Hugh's exactly right when he says, can you
just bring someone in that is an offensive line whisper.
There's got to be someone out there that just specializes
in breaking down the film of offensive lineman, particularly interior
offensive lineman, because obviously there's been no one in this
system that's been able to do that for the last decade.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I don't know who that guy is.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I mean, honestly, right, like, is Alex Gibbs still alive?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
He was the zone gun? Is he the guy?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I mean, is there really a guy like that? Is
there a who's the guy for the Tom Emansky guy
back in the day?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Right hitting?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
This guy developed back to back to back first team
All Pro tackles right by his videotape now, I mean, honestly, like,
this just comes down.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
To having a team of people, the right team of people.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
And does John Schneider think he's got an offensive line
whisper on his staff. I'm sure he does. I'm sure
he's thought that for the last ten years that he's
had that guy. And you're exactly right, every coach, every
offensive line coach every coordinator that they hire, Well, this.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Guy the best. This guy's the next wave. Who is
the the.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Defensive backs coach that we talked about, Oh Shanda sa
Shanda said he was the next great defensive coordinator in
the NFL. I think he's on like his third team
since he was here. By the way, I mean, come on, guys,
stop it. Start drafting the proper people and get a
general manager to either a do his job or B
find somebody else who can.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
We're gonna break.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Greg Bell is going to join us next on ninety
three three KJRFM.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
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Speaker 1 (17:43):
Al right back here on a Tuesday afternoon in Zaga.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Saint marys WSS.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
He's He's He's E championship game coming up six pm tonight.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Is that still in Vegas, by the way? At the
Orleans Orleans? Yeah, the Orleans, the good old Orleans.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
They still have a dollar ninety eight stak and eggs
at two in the morning down there, or is it a.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Thing on the past memories of the Orleans, Oh, very
good memories of that place. Yeah, I was rolling and.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
My brother and losses. Now I gotta play. I gotta
play some more. I gotta play some more.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
And I was stupid enough to listen to him, And well,
listening to your brother's pretty dumb.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I would know my brother in law. Listen to my
brother is very dumb. My brother in law not usually dumb.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I'm not even a member of your immediate family, man,
I mean, come on, jeez, well, joining us right now
on the radio show, our own resident Seahawk insider. You
hear him every morning with Chuck and Buck our friend Greg, Greg.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
How you doing man?
Speaker 6 (18:35):
All right, how are you guys doing good?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Hey, condolences by the way on your pops. Uh thinking
about you guys. Number one, Let me just toss that
out there up there. I've been there, that you have
the spot that you're at right now, and it's not fun.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
So uh he raised, he raised a hell of a son,
no question about That'd be proud as hell of you, man.
So thanks, thanks for everything you do for us, and
condolences to your family. Let's uh, let's get to the
Seahawks here and and just talk about kind of there's
all this just mounting frustration right by the fans. And
it's not just about the last twenty four to forty
eight hours. It's about the last five, six, seven years,
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if not longer, where they just for some reason have
this major hole in their game where they can't fix
the damn line either through the draft or through free agency.
So when Seahawks fans see a guy like Will Fries
get five years, eighty eight million from Minnesota and they're
annoyed the Seahawks did not get a deal done with
a guy like that, are they justified in being annoyed?
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
And I've talked and written many times guys that if
they want to change the results of the last half
dozen you could even argue ten years back to trading
Max Hunger for Jimmy Graham. They want to change the
results on the offensive line, they have to change the input.
They have to change the evaluation, the signing, the drafting,
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and then the development of those offensive line or us.
You're going to get the same results, right, You're put
in the same ingredients, you get in the same cake. Well,
today is another example that the process of signing is
the same as it has been for the last ten years.
I was told him and have heard from a couple
people that the Seahawks offered three years just over fifty
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million dollars to Will Freese this morning. That's the same
deal they offered Drama gave Draymond Jones, who signed a
couple of years ago, and he flamed out and got
cut last week. But that's a big splash for John Schneider,
especially an interier offensive line, as we know in the
famous quote of him saying guards are overdrafting of a
paid But they offered him three years for fifty one
about seventeen million years. He signs for five years and
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eighty eight with the Colts with the Vikings, excuse me,
from the Colts, which is about the same average annual value, right,
seventeen point five six million dollars. So it wasn't the money,
it was the length and you can go. I went
back writing a story for the News Tribune newscregren dot
com right now, aside from Jason Myers, the kicker in
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twenty nineteen from a jet, So we've got a four
year deal. John Schneider has not given an outside free
agent who played the previous year from another team a
contract of more than three years. Since you want to
guess the year guys, Oh geez, fourteen, twenty eleven, you
want to guess the players?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
No, just tell us because it's hurting Ares Sidney Rice.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Sidney Rice and Zach Miller the tight end are the
last guys outside free agents that are not Jason Meyers
a kicker? What about to get a deal more than
three years?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
But what about Draymond Jones deal? He was three got you?
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Got you?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Sorry?
Speaker 6 (21:36):
He only realized two of them before he got cut.
So the point is the process didn't change here. To
get Will Free signed, they would have had to go
to five years, but they don't do that. Now there's
all kinds of conspiracy theories that the Seahawks don't want
to go to five years because Paul Allen's the state
is going to sell the Seahawks sooner than later, and
they don't want to commit to monies to a new owner.
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But that's been going on now. As I said, back
to twenty eleven, Rob Paul Island was still around. So
this is a philosophy that John Schneider has in his
free agency for outside free agent. Now he's done of
course four and five years for Russell Wilson and Richard Sherman,
his own homegrown guys. The contracts and resigning. I'm talking
about outside free agency of the teams. So if you
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want offensive line resolves to change, you got to get
the process to change. And today it didn't change, and
that's why they will freeze. And that's the way the
game goes in free agency the guys, some agents will
tell their twenty six year old client about to turn
twenty seven, take the three year deal so you can
go back to free agency before your thirtieth birthday. But
in Freeze's case, he took the five years in the
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eighty eight instead of the three for fifty and a half.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
How many new offensive line starters do you think will
be acquired by the Seahawks in free agency this year? Oh?
Speaker 6 (22:52):
In free agency? Maybe one? The way it's shaping up now, Okay,
perhaps to replace Lake and Thomlinson at left? Are I
hear m Kai Beckton from of course the Jets eleventh
overall pick from Louisville and a few years ago and
flamed out in New York and had to bounce back
year with the Eagles when they moved it from tackle
into guard. But Beckden is a huge man. He's six
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six three pounds. That's not what they need for outside
zone and be able to block outside and move latterly
and run off the ball. Now, of course he could
be coached into that, but it doesn't appear that that's
a fit for Clint Kubiak's new system. And like McDonald
has said, and John Schneider has said the same words,
we need offensive lineman who run off the ball. What's
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that mean? They don't want round graders who just drive
somebody into the mud. DJ Flucker types, Guy Becton types.
They need athletic lateral moving, run outside, more of a
finesse thing. Denver Broncos Terrell Davis, super Bowl years, Mike Sennehan.
That's exactly what this offense is based upon. So Beckden
doesn't seem to be a fit. But I would think
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they're going to have to sign a veteran instead of
relying on if they go with one in the draft,
they're gonna have a second year starter at right guard,
a rookie starting at left guard, and an unproven half
a rookie at best and ol with Timmy were perhaps
an undrafted rookie last year and Jalensondell as your center
as it stands right now.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, So who are the guys Greg Greg Bell again
with us on the radio show talking free agency, kind
of focusing for a while here on the offensive line.
Who are the realistic targets for them? I mean, Josh Myers,
Tevin Jenkins. You mentioned Mackay Beckton. If you had to
look into your Greg Bell crystal ball, right and tell us, Okay,
here's the Bell ball, rub that thing and tell us
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what it says.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Well, that came out weird, by the way.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
I apologize.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
I just glossed over.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Thank you, good for you. You're a problem.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
You know, in a perfect world, Trey Smith would have
been available, right course, I could argue the Seawks wouldn't
have given him a deal longer and rich enough to
get him, But yeah, I thought threes fit them very well.
Although there was some hesitation because the fact he had
a broken tibia in October and there's some thought that
the Seahawks wanted to get him in the building and
take a physical before they would commit to signing him,
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and that couldn't happen till league year starts. Tomorrow. But
the fact that I was told they were really in
on him and it just went three years of they
lost out, not because of the physical but because of
the length of the contract. Tvin Jenkins is an interesting
case and he pass protection has been his problem. Their
coaching staff thinks that they can make pass protectors be
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past eight. They need run blockers and movers on the line,
and it was pass protection with the Browns that Tevin
Jenkins that sometimes had problems with. At this point, that's
probably the best available option for them with the most
experience in doing what they need to do. John Venton
is the new offensive line coach in nineteen year betch
in the NFL. We haven't seen even teaching in mode
(25:55):
and develop mode here in Seattle. Yet we're all respected
in the outside zone in the Shanahan system from way
back when Rick Dennison the same way, the former offensive
coordinator and line coach for the Broncos and their Super
Bowl team. So they have the pedigree and the experience
to coach these guys up into their system. I think
Jenkins would fit that. I thought Freeze would fit that.
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I don't think Becton fits it. But that doesn't mean
you can't develop them into it, but I would the
two best of double are Jenkins and Beckham. At this point,
let's see if the Seahawks make a play. If they
do three years, they could lose out again.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Greg, real quick, do you think the Seahawks upgraded a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
I don't. I'm not sold.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I'm not.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
I mean, we don't know how good Sam Donald is. Right.
The Seahawks don't have Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison and
t J. Hawkinson coming down by their starting lineup this year.
And that's I mean not to say that the guy
throwing the ball wasn't responsible for some of that, but
he drew for twenty three hundred yards and twenty eight
touchdowns to his two wide receivers. The Seahawks have Jackson
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Smith and Jiggla and Jake Bobo and that's it. And
right now, even if they draft wide receivers, they're still
going to have. I would I would put four guys
covering Jackson Smith and Jigger next year if I was
a few cents, because they have nobody. They have nobody else,
So the run game is even more important for Sam Darnold.
He holds onto the ball a long time. We saw
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that playoff game against the Rams. We got sacked nine
times to tie a playoff record. Those guys nine sacks. Guys,
he held the ball for four point seven three seconds.
That would make that would make Hugh Mellen's head explode.
It's like twice twice as long as you should can
hold the ball in the with the Seattle line, I thought,
Gino Smith, if you just take who's the better quarterback
right now? I think Geno Smith is. He wanted he
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wanted more money. Yeah, so the Seahawks didn't want to
pay him. And that's just what happened. As soon as
Pete Carroll took the Raiders job, John Schneider knew he
had an escape patch. If the contract negotiations stalled with
Gino Smith. He knew he could trade him to the Raiders,
and one second, he knew that Pete care would take him.
He knew that Smith would love to go to the
coach that resurrected his career, and he had to act
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quickly because he hadn't needed the money and the space
to go after Sam Donald at the start of free agency.
But time will tell if he's better than Gino Smith
at right now, and especially with what the Seahawks have
on offense, the offensive line, I'd say no.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Got you Greg, great stuff, man. Hear you again tomorrow
morning and we'll talk down the road. Budy appreciate it. Thanks, Greg,
appreciate you guys. Thanks for ward, Greg Bell you bet
man with us on the radio show. Text amdials. That's
interesting that Greg says he does not think the Seahawks
got better at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Four nine four to five to one. Answer that question,
Did they get better at quarterback? Yes's a simple question,
yes or no? Four nine four to five one. John
Wilder joins at five to war and Moon at five
twenty eight on ninety three three KJRFM
Cracking back at it tomorrow against Montreal Boys have lost
five of seven fading and fading fast twenty seven thirty
four and four. The host the Canadians, and we got
tickets for that game to give away. By the way,
in a minute seven o'clock pre game seven thirty face
off tomorrow right here on ninety three three KJR FM,
Did you do the tiger Wood story? By the way,
(00:21):
do the tiger Wood story? Tiger Woods ruptured.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Achilles had surgery this morning, expected to make a full recovery.
But I think you can probably rule out any tournaments
for the rest of twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Is he our age? By the way, is he fifty?
Is forty nine? Is just a year younger than nine?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, he'll be fifty on December thirtieth, nineteen seventy five.
He was born fifty years old. God, I still remember
Tiger Woods on the Was it the Mike Wallace Show?
That the show he was on? Not the Mike Wallace Show.
What was the show he was on when he was
a kid he was three years olson? No, it was
Mike Douglass. Sorry, Mike Douglas. Mike Douglas, not Mike Wallace.
(00:59):
Mike Waller is the TV newscaster, right, yeah, by the
Mike Douglass Show. And here we are forty seven years
later and Tiger Woods is maybe the greatest golfer in
the history of the of the sport.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
For giving my ignorance, is that the same Mike Douglas
as Michael Douglas.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
H No, no different, no different guy. I do not
remember the Mike Dougle Michael Douglas from the famous movie
Falling Down. Yes, where the guy loses his mind in LA.
Have you seen that movie? But Jackuly phenomenal movie. Jackson
would like that the older I've noticed one thing out
of you that the order you get the grumpy or
you're getting about a lot of stuff you would love
(01:35):
Falling Down. Absolutely, Falling Down is about a guy who
simply had enough of everything and everybody when snaps.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I haven't well, I haven't seen it since I was
probably in my late twenties, so I should watch it
again because I'm way more like Falling Down guys than
I was when I was twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Totally so good. Great movie anyway, uh five years ago.
Tonight we'll get to the NFL at a second. By
the way, for those that are two in. The Seahawks
have done nothing so far today, No surprise there. There's
a bunch of news in the NFL. We gave it
to you and the update Daniel Jones going to the Colts.
Texans picked up an Eagle safety CJ. Gardner Johnson, Vikings
got Will Fries Right, that's the guard that everybody wanted
(02:15):
here in Seattle from the Colts, Is that correct? Who
was Will fries with the year as from the Colts
drafted right, and so he got a five year, eighty
eight million dollar deal from Minnesota, don't you know. And
our buddy Corbyn Smith, the Mutton shot Man, reported the
Seahawks offered him three years and the Vikings gave him
five years. So of course he's a Viking and not
(02:36):
a Seahawks. So nothing new today in regards to anything
of significance with the Seahawks. Looks like DeAndre Hopkins, by
the way, is going to Baltimore to play with Lamar Jackson.
That just came down courtesy a rap sheet from the Chiefs.
So Baltimore's got a new wide receiver. There are some
wide receivers that will be available in free agency. I mean,
(02:56):
do any of these names flo out your boat, Cooper Cup, yes,
Keenan Allen, Stefan Diggs, Marii, Cooper, Darius Slayton. And how
about this for another one, Tyler Lockett on a one year,
greatly reduced contract to return to the series.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I'm fine with that. I'm fine with Cooper Cup. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Cooper Cup and Tyler Lockett might be repetundon I agree, so,
but I would like to get one of those two
guys back, and I might want to try Cooper just
for something different, just a little change.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, I mean, I guess, you know, I just wonder
if he's washed. Man, I don't know. I mean, the
I think they're both probably was well the cliff.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
The cliff in the NFL is steep, right, Yeah, I mean,
there's really no kind of gradual decline, like you either
can play or you can't. I mean, they they walk
you right up to the train station like in Yellowstone,
and they shove your right off. I mean, maybe you'll
get the bus stop where you can keep going. But
the trains, you guys watch Yellowstone at all, by the way,
I have seen some episodes, but I watch the train
(03:52):
stations where they go to dispose of you. Okay, it's
like on the Wyoming Border right. If you ever watched it,
you know what I'm talking about. But there is no
real gradual declient in the NFL. You're either in or
you're out. So I mean, I have no problem bringing
him back on a non guaranteed deal if that's what
he wants to do. That seems to be kind of
not the Seahawk way to treat a guy like that.
He's been here for ten years, he's a ring of
(04:13):
honor member. Having him come back and have to earn
his spot on the roster like a regular schnook in
trading camp with everybody else. You know, I would tell him,
if I were John Schneider, exactly what I told Richard Sherman,
but I would actually maybe consider matching an offer this time.
And that is, Hey, go out and see what you
can get, right, do what's best for you, do what's
(04:35):
best for your family. Make as much money as you
can to promote your real estate company and get some
billboards and blah blah blah, and then come back to
us and if you find something, we can talk about it.
But here's where we're at. We're looking to get younger.
We're looking to get bigger. With DK Metcalf now gone.
We got to replace you. We got to replace DK.
We got to find some freakin' linemen. Blah blah blah.
(04:56):
So go out and see what you can do. I'm
not sure if I can imagine the Seahawks even other
to ask Lockett to do something.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
The Seahawk way, I guess is more like letting a
guy go and play a couple of years someplace else
and then bringing him back for his swan song.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Right, that would be to see, like if.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Tyler Lockett had a year or two pretty decent years
someplace else, and the Seahawks are like in twenty twenty
seven eight, he's thirty five, he can still kind of
play a little bit. We'll give you a one year,
three million dollar deal to finish your career here.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Hey, by the way, if you want to take your
buddy or significant other or kid, whatever, nephew, friend, or
just grab some random person off the street to the
Kraken Montreal game tomorrow, we got a pair of tickets
that has come available for tomorrow night's game. We're going
to start the bidding at five hundred bucks. Do I
hear five hundred dollars on the web. But far no,
(05:44):
I'm kidding. Text in Jackson to four nine, four to
five to one and tell Jackson why you think you
should go. Maybe you got a son or a daughter,
never been to a game. I know a lot of
people that still have not been to a cracking game.
They've been here for four years now, and there's still
a lot of people that haven't been to a game.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
So you think you should go.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You want to take your kid, you want to take
your wife, your parent, whatever, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, blah,
blah blah. Text Jackson into four nine four or five
to one. The sappy year, the story, the better, and
I would feel free to make something up, by the way,
because Jackson in no way we'll try and confirm anything.
So just text them your story, your sob story to
four nine four five to one, and Jackson will pick
(06:22):
one winner. We'll announce the winner on the year later
today for a pair of tickets for tomorrow. But five
years ago, tonight, five years ago tonight, you remember what
happened anybary, remember what happened five years ago tonight? You
dick me Jackson, all of us were still on the air,
five years ago tonight.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
We are not in this building.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
We were not well, we were we were on the
opposite side of the side.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yes, yes, not in this studio, yes, yea.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Five years ago tonight is when the world shut down,
when the NBA shut down Oklahoma City and Utah.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Remember that Rudy.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Go Bear, Rudy Go Bear breathed on the microphone, licked
the microphone, whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Hands all over all the microphones.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
All that stuff tested positive for COVID, and everybody started
to panic and the world gradually shut down. I thought
it'd be appropriate because I still remember being kind of
wigged out, to be honest with you at the time,
by everything going on. This is what our show sounded
like five years ago tonight, when the sports world and
(07:26):
the world began to slowly shut itself down. So what
happened in the Oklahoma City Utah game in Oklahoma City tonight?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
What's the story out there?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
They were seconds away from tip off between the Jazz
and Thunder, and mysteriously they told both teams to go
back to the locker rooms without any reason given. Yeah,
and then now just a few seconds ago, after about
ten minutes of a delay, here he got on the
pa at the stadium and said that the game has
been postponed. No reasons given, but it looks like there's
(07:58):
some discussion the fact that Rudy Gobert has an illness,
So that could be playing a role in this postpone.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well, I'm sure it is.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I'm sure anytime anybody gets sick, has a fever, is coughing,
anything like that.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I mean automatically we.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Knew Rudy Gobert was sick like this, Yes, So why,
I mean, why do you get to the point where
they have fans in the stands if.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
You know he's sick in the morning. I will add
this that Royce Young. Royce Young is a thunder reporter.
He said that a thunder Head medical staffer, Donnie Strack
just grabbed this is seconds before tip off, just grabbed
the three officials and told them something. All players were
then told to go back, so something. So some thunder
health official came and talked to the officials and then
(08:42):
everything changed.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, like I said earlier, man, you can't be surprised
by any of this stuff. There's going to be panic
all over the sports world, and you were hearing reports
that the NBA may just kind of shut her down
for a while and let this thing hopefully pass and
then move on.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Maybe take a month off, take a couple of weeks off.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Whatever. We'll see what happens in the MLS. We'll see
what happened in the NHL. We'll see what happens with
the NCUBA. We know the NCUBLEA tournament. Mark Emmerton announcing
there will not be any fans in the stands for
the entirety of the March Madness tournament.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
No fans.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Okay, so that's step one. I asked you then on
the air off the year, could this lead to maybe
canceling the tournament altogether? And then you said, Jef good
Men reported today that they're talking about it, but trying
to obviously avoid that.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Two hours ago, I said I'd be shocked if they
canceled the in Cuba tournament. Now I'm less would be
less shocked. I mean, this is how fast things are moving.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
How could you be surprised at all if they just
said everything's canceled. And that's exactly what happened. Everything got canceled,
everything got shut down. And you remember that Rudy Gobert
was criticized for what he did with the microphone and
the postgame press conference. There was that after the game
got canceled, Rudy gober met with the media or was
(09:58):
it before It was the day of Okay, so the
COVID thing had started to spread a little bit, and
Rudy Gobaert was making fun of it, kind of mocking
the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
And he was when they got sick, here's what happens.
I'm gonna lick the mic or breathe on the mic.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And then he was the one to get sick, and
he got treated like a lepper, that guy. I mean,
nobody wanted to be around that dude. And then they
shut down the NCAA tournament. And I mean, dude, I mean,
the the memories we've got of just going through that.
I don't know what yours are initially, but I remember
just wondering how the hell we're going to fill the time.
(10:32):
Number one, I don't think people knew how serious it was.
I remember when the governor was going to shut the
state down. I started freaking out, and like went to
the store and bought a bunch of non perishable food
to last for nine tons was pressed on the paper.
Stores were packed to the Gills with people. Peoria shut down,
the Mariners shut down, the NBA shut down, everything closed,
(10:54):
and just thinking how are they going to do this?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
And then ESPN had that Game of Horse.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Remember that, where they literally took like a cell phone
feed and went to players' houses and did a FaceTime call.
And I appreciated them doing that, but man, the quality
was terrible. It was awful. It was like an amateur
hour for those guys. So I don't know how we'd
handle that again. If something like that ever came around again,
I know we'd be better prepared for it. Maybe wouldn't
be as nervous, you know, the second time around as
(11:19):
we were the first time around, because let's face it,
nobody alive today had any idea how to manage that
because nobody had ever gone through it, and there was
so much paranoia. But many when they shut down that
Oklahoma City Utah game, Dick, that was, Oh my god,
this is getting serious and there's going to be a
lot of stuff that's not going to be happening.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I had the next break.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I remember calling my mom, she was in California, and
I said, I want you to go to Costco right now,
and I want you to buy a month's.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Worth of food. That's exactly what I said.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And she told me a few days later, She's like,
I'm glad you told me to go to Costa all right,
because I don't want to go to the store right now.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Right Well that I mean, yeah, your parents are nervous
about My mom and dad were in New Jersey on
nine to eleven, by the way, on that exact same day.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, and it was chaos, So I get it.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
But man, five years ago tonight is when everything got
shut down and the NBA began to kind of They
were the first ones right to kind of wave the
white flag and get this thing going. So curious about
your memories of that night. At four nine four five one.
Greg Bell is going to join us. Coming up next segment.
Mariners do have the day off today. By the way,
we're kind of just watching. I love when people say
(12:27):
things like we're watching the wire. There really is no wire.
The wire's Twitter, okay, the wire is X that that's
what the sports wire has become. Remember the old thing
ticker we had the ticker Jackson. It was a dot
matrix machine that would leave print up a piece of paper.
I still have the print out from when McGuire broke
Meris' record in nineteen ninety eight. That was thirty whatever
(12:49):
years ago. We're twenty eight years ago, twenty six years ago. Sorry,
and I'm bad at math. Now we're watching Twitter to
see if any news breaks, because everything breaks first on Twitter.
Nobody's going on twit and saying, hey, we have breaking
news regarding a signing by the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Turn on ESPN.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Now they're just giving it away, so everybody has access
to the wire. But the frustration that we talked about
earlier in the show and the four o'clock or the
three o'clock hour, sorry about the lack of activity by
the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Look, there still are some pretty big frickin' names out there,
and if they go out and signed a couple of
these guys on this list, the Makai Becton, Tevin Jenkins,
Josh Myers, Kevin Zeitler, I think Seahawks fans should be
pretty happy with that. If they can get a couple
names off this list between now and maybe the end
of the week.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, I mean the word I'm looking for is solidify.
Can you that doesn't mean stars. That doesn't mean spending
fourteen million dollars a player. That just means solidify. Give
me five. I just asked John Schneider on day one
of the regular.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Seasons, you know you asked him.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I will make sure that Ike knows can Can we
just have five NFL legit hitimate NFL starting offensive lineman
one through five on our line? Because that's because we
only have two right now, right and that's if Abe
Lucas is healthy. Ifl Abe Lucas somehow has the mysterious
knee in the in August and ah looks like Abe
(14:14):
Lucas isn't going to play till October, then you could
have four holes on that line. Can we just get
a capable starter at every single one of the positions now?
And God bless Olu and Bradford and you know, Michael
Jarrell and Christian Haynes and Jalen Sundell and all those
guys that they got, Fine, put them on the roster,
but not as starters.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I want legitimate starters on this team.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Well, and look, there's plenty of guys out there to
do that. They just have to be willing to commit
to it, and I would trust them a lot more
to sign a veteran free agent offensive lineman who's already
established than to draft one and coach them into a
veteran offensive lineman who's already established. Like the new guy
(14:59):
John Benton, right, new offensive line coach. I don't know
about you, guys. I am getting so tired of the
fans and the media telling me how great these coaches
are because they all come here as the new guy,
whether it's Ryan Grubb or whether it's Scott Huff or
whether it's Clint Kobiak, or whether it's Shane Waldron is
gonna be the guru. Andy Dickenson, whatever the hell that
(15:22):
guy's name was, right, I mean he was running game.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Well, this guy's great, So look at his pedigree. Blah blah.
Would you shut up already?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I mean, honestly, like you just have a critical eye
in you say something critical about the guy. Well, he
screwed up here, he messed up there, because he's not perfect.
All these guys make mistakes. Obviously, they all make mistakes.
But this idea that all of a sudden, because you
have this new offensive line coach or this new offensive coordinator,
(15:51):
when you have the same general manager that the same
problem is not gonna be the same problem is ludicrous
to me?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Well, Ludicris, Hugh's exactly right when he says, can you
just bring someone in that is an offensive line whisper.
There's got to be someone out there that just specializes
in breaking down the film of offensive lineman, particularly interior
offensive lineman, because obviously there's been no one in this
system that's been able to do that for the last decade.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I don't know who that guy is.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I mean, honestly, right, like, is Alex Gibbs still alive?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
He was the zone gun? Is he the guy?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I mean, is there really a guy like that? Is
there a who's the guy for the Tom Emansky guy
back in the day?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Right hitting?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
This guy developed back to back to back first team
All Pro tackles right by his videotape now, I mean, honestly, like,
this just comes down.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
To having a team of people, the right team of people.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
And does John Schneider think he's got an offensive line
whisper on his staff. I'm sure he does. I'm sure
he's thought that for the last ten years that he's
had that guy. And you're exactly right, every coach, every
offensive line coach every coordinator that they hire, Well, this.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Guy the best. This guy's the next wave. Who is
the the.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Defensive backs coach that we talked about, Oh Shanda sa
Shanda said he was the next great defensive coordinator in
the NFL. I think he's on like his third team
since he was here. By the way, I mean, come on, guys,
stop it. Start drafting the proper people and get a
general manager to either a do his job or B
find somebody else who can.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
We're gonna break.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Greg Bell is going to join us next on ninety
three three KJRFM.
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He's He's He's E championship game coming up six pm tonight.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Is that still in Vegas, by the way? At the
Orleans Orleans? Yeah, the Orleans, the good old Orleans.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
They still have a dollar ninety eight stak and eggs
at two in the morning down there, or is it a.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Thing on the past memories of the Orleans, Oh, very
good memories of that place. Yeah, I was rolling and.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
My brother and losses. Now I gotta play. I gotta
play some more. I gotta play some more.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
And I was stupid enough to listen to him, And well,
listening to your brother's pretty dumb.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I would know my brother in law. Listen to my
brother is very dumb. My brother in law not usually dumb.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I'm not even a member of your immediate family, man,
I mean, come on, jeez, well, joining us right now
on the radio show, our own resident Seahawk insider. You
hear him every morning with Chuck and Buck our friend Greg, Greg.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
How you doing man?
Speaker 6 (18:35):
All right, how are you guys doing good?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Hey, condolences by the way on your pops. Uh thinking
about you guys. Number one, Let me just toss that
out there up there. I've been there, that you have
the spot that you're at right now, and it's not fun.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
So uh he raised, he raised a hell of a son,
no question about That'd be proud as hell of you, man.
So thanks, thanks for everything you do for us, and
condolences to your family. Let's uh, let's get to the
Seahawks here and and just talk about kind of there's
all this just mounting frustration right by the fans. And
it's not just about the last twenty four to forty
eight hours. It's about the last five, six, seven years,
(19:09):
if not longer, where they just for some reason have
this major hole in their game where they can't fix
the damn line either through the draft or through free agency.
So when Seahawks fans see a guy like Will Fries
get five years, eighty eight million from Minnesota and they're
annoyed the Seahawks did not get a deal done with
a guy like that, are they justified in being annoyed?
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
And I've talked and written many times guys that if
they want to change the results of the last half
dozen you could even argue ten years back to trading
Max Hunger for Jimmy Graham. They want to change the
results on the offensive line, they have to change the input.
They have to change the evaluation, the signing, the drafting,
(19:53):
and then the development of those offensive line or us.
You're going to get the same results, right, You're put
in the same ingredients, you get in the same cake. Well,
today is another example that the process of signing is
the same as it has been for the last ten years.
I was told him and have heard from a couple
people that the Seahawks offered three years just over fifty
(20:15):
million dollars to Will Freese this morning. That's the same
deal they offered Drama gave Draymond Jones, who signed a
couple of years ago, and he flamed out and got
cut last week. But that's a big splash for John Schneider,
especially an interier offensive line, as we know in the
famous quote of him saying guards are overdrafting of a
paid But they offered him three years for fifty one
about seventeen million years. He signs for five years and
(20:37):
eighty eight with the Colts with the Vikings, excuse me,
from the Colts, which is about the same average annual value, right,
seventeen point five six million dollars. So it wasn't the money,
it was the length and you can go. I went
back writing a story for the News Tribune newscregren dot
com right now, aside from Jason Myers, the kicker in
(20:58):
twenty nineteen from a jet, So we've got a four
year deal. John Schneider has not given an outside free
agent who played the previous year from another team a
contract of more than three years. Since you want to
guess the year guys, Oh geez, fourteen, twenty eleven, you
want to guess the players?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
No, just tell us because it's hurting Ares Sidney Rice.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Sidney Rice and Zach Miller the tight end are the
last guys outside free agents that are not Jason Meyers
a kicker? What about to get a deal more than
three years?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
But what about Draymond Jones deal? He was three got you?
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Got you?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Sorry?
Speaker 6 (21:36):
He only realized two of them before he got cut.
So the point is the process didn't change here. To
get Will Free signed, they would have had to go
to five years, but they don't do that. Now there's
all kinds of conspiracy theories that the Seahawks don't want
to go to five years because Paul Allen's the state
is going to sell the Seahawks sooner than later, and
they don't want to commit to monies to a new owner.
(21:58):
But that's been going on now. As I said, back
to twenty eleven, Rob Paul Island was still around. So
this is a philosophy that John Schneider has in his
free agency for outside free agent. Now he's done of
course four and five years for Russell Wilson and Richard Sherman,
his own homegrown guys. The contracts and resigning. I'm talking
about outside free agency of the teams. So if you
(22:18):
want offensive line resolves to change, you got to get
the process to change. And today it didn't change, and
that's why they will freeze. And that's the way the
game goes in free agency the guys, some agents will
tell their twenty six year old client about to turn
twenty seven, take the three year deal so you can
go back to free agency before your thirtieth birthday. But
in Freeze's case, he took the five years in the
(22:41):
eighty eight instead of the three for fifty and a half.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
How many new offensive line starters do you think will
be acquired by the Seahawks in free agency this year? Oh?
Speaker 6 (22:52):
In free agency? Maybe one? The way it's shaping up now, Okay,
perhaps to replace Lake and Thomlinson at left? Are I
hear m Kai Beckton from of course the Jets eleventh
overall pick from Louisville and a few years ago and
flamed out in New York and had to bounce back
year with the Eagles when they moved it from tackle
into guard. But Beckden is a huge man. He's six
(23:15):
six three pounds. That's not what they need for outside
zone and be able to block outside and move latterly
and run off the ball. Now, of course he could
be coached into that, but it doesn't appear that that's
a fit for Clint Kubiak's new system. And like McDonald
has said, and John Schneider has said the same words,
we need offensive lineman who run off the ball. What's
(23:36):
that mean? They don't want round graders who just drive
somebody into the mud. DJ Flucker types, Guy Becton types.
They need athletic lateral moving, run outside, more of a
finesse thing. Denver Broncos Terrell Davis, super Bowl years, Mike Sennehan.
That's exactly what this offense is based upon. So Beckden
doesn't seem to be a fit. But I would think
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they're going to have to sign a veteran instead of
relying on if they go with one in the draft,
they're gonna have a second year starter at right guard,
a rookie starting at left guard, and an unproven half
a rookie at best and ol with Timmy were perhaps
an undrafted rookie last year and Jalensondell as your center
as it stands right now.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, So who are the guys Greg Greg Bell again
with us on the radio show talking free agency, kind
of focusing for a while here on the offensive line.
Who are the realistic targets for them? I mean, Josh Myers,
Tevin Jenkins. You mentioned Mackay Beckton. If you had to
look into your Greg Bell crystal ball, right and tell us, Okay,
here's the Bell ball, rub that thing and tell us
(24:40):
what it says.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Well, that came out weird, by the way.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
I apologize.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
I just glossed over.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Thank you, good for you. You're a problem.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
You know, in a perfect world, Trey Smith would have
been available, right course, I could argue the Seawks wouldn't
have given him a deal longer and rich enough to
get him, But yeah, I thought threes fit them very well.
Although there was some hesitation because the fact he had
a broken tibia in October and there's some thought that
the Seahawks wanted to get him in the building and
take a physical before they would commit to signing him,
(25:13):
and that couldn't happen till league year starts. Tomorrow. But
the fact that I was told they were really in
on him and it just went three years of they
lost out, not because of the physical but because of
the length of the contract. Tvin Jenkins is an interesting
case and he pass protection has been his problem. Their
coaching staff thinks that they can make pass protectors be
(25:33):
past eight. They need run blockers and movers on the line,
and it was pass protection with the Browns that Tevin
Jenkins that sometimes had problems with. At this point, that's
probably the best available option for them with the most
experience in doing what they need to do. John Venton
is the new offensive line coach in nineteen year betch
in the NFL. We haven't seen even teaching in mode
(25:55):
and develop mode here in Seattle. Yet we're all respected
in the outside zone in the Shanahan system from way
back when Rick Dennison the same way, the former offensive
coordinator and line coach for the Broncos and their Super
Bowl team. So they have the pedigree and the experience
to coach these guys up into their system. I think
Jenkins would fit that. I thought Freeze would fit that.
(26:16):
I don't think Becton fits it. But that doesn't mean
you can't develop them into it, but I would the
two best of double are Jenkins and Beckham. At this point,
let's see if the Seahawks make a play. If they
do three years, they could lose out again.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Greg, real quick, do you think the Seahawks upgraded a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
I don't. I'm not sold.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I'm not.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
I mean, we don't know how good Sam Donald is. Right.
The Seahawks don't have Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison and
t J. Hawkinson coming down by their starting lineup this year.
And that's I mean not to say that the guy
throwing the ball wasn't responsible for some of that, but
he drew for twenty three hundred yards and twenty eight
touchdowns to his two wide receivers. The Seahawks have Jackson
(27:01):
Smith and Jiggla and Jake Bobo and that's it. And
right now, even if they draft wide receivers, they're still
going to have. I would I would put four guys
covering Jackson Smith and Jigger next year if I was
a few cents, because they have nobody. They have nobody else,
So the run game is even more important for Sam Darnold.
He holds onto the ball a long time. We saw
(27:22):
that playoff game against the Rams. We got sacked nine
times to tie a playoff record. Those guys nine sacks. Guys,
he held the ball for four point seven three seconds.
That would make that would make Hugh Mellen's head explode.
It's like twice twice as long as you should can
hold the ball in the with the Seattle line, I thought,
Gino Smith, if you just take who's the better quarterback
right now? I think Geno Smith is. He wanted he
(27:45):
wanted more money. Yeah, so the Seahawks didn't want to
pay him. And that's just what happened. As soon as
Pete Carroll took the Raiders job, John Schneider knew he
had an escape patch. If the contract negotiations stalled with
Gino Smith. He knew he could trade him to the Raiders,
and one second, he knew that Pete care would take him.
He knew that Smith would love to go to the
coach that resurrected his career, and he had to act
(28:07):
quickly because he hadn't needed the money and the space
to go after Sam Donald at the start of free agency.
But time will tell if he's better than Gino Smith
at right now, and especially with what the Seahawks have
on offense, the offensive line, I'd say no.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Got you Greg, great stuff, man. Hear you again tomorrow
morning and we'll talk down the road. Budy appreciate it. Thanks, Greg,
appreciate you guys. Thanks for ward, Greg Bell you bet
man with us on the radio show. Text amdials. That's
interesting that Greg says he does not think the Seahawks
got better at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Four nine four to five to one. Answer that question,
Did they get better at quarterback? Yes's a simple question,
yes or no? Four nine four to five one. John
Wilder joins at five to war and Moon at five
twenty eight on ninety three three KJRFM
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