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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for the latest on the madness of March.
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Mike Decorsi, here's Safti and Dick.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
All right, Beck, thanks for our friends over at Northwest
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
Are Pal Eric Eric.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
We really appreciate for whatever reason, I don't know why
he keeps doing it, but he just does.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
He says yes, and everybody else says no.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Sponsoring us every single year talking to some college basketball
getting one of the greats of all time. Let's face
it on the air. Hall of Fame writer, Big ten Network,
The Sporting News, our friend Mike Decorsi, Michael, how are
you Pal?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
I am doing well, gentlemen, how are you good?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Good?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Why don't we just start right at the top with
the number one thing that everybody is debating today across
the country.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
If I'm a Colorado State ram fan, I'll be yelling
to the clouds as long as I live. It was
a travel. It was a travel. Derek Queen with the
buzzer beater from Maryland. Did he walk or did he
not walk? In your opinion, he probably walked.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
And if you're a Colorado State fan outraged about that,
I take you back to the edge of the first
half and remind you of the fact that your best
player elbowed and a reserve from Maryland in the year
and could very very well have been a flagrant one
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file which would have meant two free throws in the
ball and perhaps a four point possession.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Then that maybe don't need that at the end, and
there was a.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Very good possibility it could have been a flagrant two foul,
which would have meant your player, Nie Clifford, on the
bench for the rest of the game. So I don't
think that Colorado State wants to be talking about getting
a rough whistle there, Mike.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
We had some interesting behavior by coaches after the games.
Speaker 7 (02:14):
Let's start with Rick Patino.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
What do you think of Patino benching his conference player
of the Year for the last five minutes in their loss,
and then how he handled the questions in the press conference,
which was, you know, he had he had some saltiness
when when was asked a perfectly appropriate question.
Speaker 8 (02:31):
Yeah, I thought it was odd that he wouldn't that
he wouldn't just say this if this was the answer
that he wanted to convey, was that he did not
give us the best chance of winning or something like that,
because RJ was not r J Lewis the player we're
talking about who was a third team All American for
the Sporting News and just did not have a great
game because it was not a great matchup for him.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
He is not an outstanding shooter.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
He tried a couple early, and he had been on
a pretty good streak entering the turn, but he tried
a couple early and did not did not make those
And when that happened, Arkansas's really dynamic defense, the length
of the the athleticism that they have just they just
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turned it up.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
They knew that they didn't.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Have to worry about him getting from deep, so it
was just keep them away from the rim. And he
ended up having a pretty poor day. And if if
Rick wanted to convey the message that that he just
didn't feel like he gave him the best chance to win.
That would have been fine, and I don't think that.
You know, I know Roger Reubin really well. We covered
the Big East together a long time ago, and and
he he he would have just taken that for an answer,
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but Rick wouldn't do that. Rick kept just saying, you
know why, and right, and and so he said what
what was he He said, he played thirty.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Minutes, you know why?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
And and so Roger said, well, then because he was tired,
and he said, no, it wasn't because he was tired.
And so no, I don't know why. Then you can
explain it to me. That's why we're here. That Rick
sometimes has done that in the past. That my friend
Pat Forty from Sports Illustrated, who covered Kentucky back in
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the Patino era, reminded everyone in the article he wrote,
which was really good about what happened with Rod Rhodes
in the nineteen ninety five Elite eight and how that
became Rod kind of became the reason that they lost
and Rod played poorly. But again, that idea of blaming
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the player in the way that you did instead of
just riding it out and saying, hey, it wasn't our day. Yep.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, speaking of coaches behaving badly, I'll just follow up
on Dick's question. There used to be a time where
I really was a big fan of Danny Hurley. I
remember Dick and I, two of us were sitting here
on the air defending Yukon. They're now a blue blood
in college basketball, no question, they've arrived. And then I
don't know, maybe he was doing this already and I
wasn't noticing it, but the guy just, in my opinion,
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kind of turned into a jackass.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
And he's walked off the court.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Last night blaming the referees when you come missed twenty
one to threes in the game yesterday and they lost
by two. What do you make of the way Danny
Hurley is approaching everything these days?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Pal, I, first of all, you should still be a
fan of Dan because he is a really good person
and very good for the game, and the kind of
person that you would not be concerned about coaching your son.
I think he's a good person to have coaching your son.
If that's if you had an elite college basketball player
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for a son, but I think that Dan has an
issue of what relative to his competitiveness I think it is.
I think he is so exceedingly competitive that when he
gets adjacent to that rectangle, he really struggles to comport
himself in the way that.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
One ordinarily would.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
In that game, there may have been some difficult calls there,
but it wasn't as if they lost that game because
of some difficult call.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Look.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I was in the exact same position more or less
when Creighton lost their Elite Elite eight game against San
Diego State in twenty twenty three, and the call that
was made in that game that sent San Diego State
to the free throw line with like a second and
a half left was really egregious. I mean it was
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there just wasn't enough contact to make the call, and
and they called it anyway. And so that would be
the kind of play that you would say, you would
you would leave the floor and say the things that
Dan said. Honestly, if that happened to him, I would
fear for what he would do. He needs to get himself,
he needs to get this addressed, because we've.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Seen it, uh for the last several years.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
And and then if you if you do get it addressed,
then it's not a problem you You're you're an excellent coach.
You're the kind of coach that anybody would want their
kid to play for, and you are a normally I mean,
he's a really good human. But that is an issue,
and it's something that he can have addressed. I don't
I just don't think it would be bad for him
to sit down with a sports psychologist and try to
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figure out how he can be as fiercely competitive as
he is, which is which is a help and which honestly,
he's no more fiercely competitive than mc cronin or or
Tom Izzo or even any of the coaches that are
less demonstrative, but he really takes it to the next level,
and it's not good for him and it's not good
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for the sport.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Well.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
The second part of the story is the Charlotte Reporter.
The whole reason we have Dan Hurley on film swearing
at the officials in the you know, in the tunnel
underneath this because a Charlotte reporter got it, and Danny
Hurley's sid says, take that down or I'll ruin your career.
I mean, is that even something that the side has
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the right to do that. I mean, you and I've
been those tunnels before. You can show your phone if
you need to.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, I don't know where he was at the time
the film was taken, but.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Right he's walking off the court. Yeah, fair game.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I will say this that when I was when I
was waiting for when I was waiting to go into
the Duke locker room after the next game, waiting to
talk to Cooper Flag for a few minutes.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
I was in a time.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I was in a what I think was the same area,
and they were. There were probably at least six to
eight television cameras filming Duke as they prepared to walk
out on the floor to play their game, or I
think I think that's what it was, or maybe I'm
trying to remember now exact timing of when I was there,
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But there were six to eight television cameras that I
had to avoid to get behind the line so that
they could film whatever they were filming.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
I think we were in the same area. So I
don't think there.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Was any reason that he couldn't have done the reporter
couldn't have done what he was doing. And I don't understand,
like the guy if the guy's not on the Yukon beat.
I don't know exactly what repercussions the Yukon se SID
could do, And as.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Far as I know, the reporter was from Charlotte, and so.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
I don't know really what control he would have at
that point, but I guess he felt pressure to try
to get it, to get that story removed because it
was embarrassing to Yukon, and he probably did not go
about it the right way.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, it's an egomaniac s ID, is what it is.
And we've seen a lot of those over the years,
by the way, in this business, no question about it.
One guy who was without ego whatsoever is our friend,
Mike the Coursi Sporting News, Big ten Network talking college
basketball every Monday. Curtnesy at Northwest Handling Systems. The Sweet
sixteen is set and there really ain't no Cinderella Pal,
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no mid majors here. We got the acc SEC, Big twelve,
Big Ten, it's the Big four and and nothing else.
How much does that kind of rub you're all a
little bet and kind of make this maybe a little
bit less interesting for you.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Well, it doesn't make it less interesting for me at all.
In all, honesty.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
One of the things that's kind of cool about this,
if you think about it, is that there aren't any
games where you say, oh, that, I'm not going to
watch that until the last five minutes. And let's be frank,
when Saint Peter's played Purdue a couple of years back
to three years back, nobody was saying, oh, I just
know Saint Peter's is going to take down Purdue.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
I can't wait to watch that.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
No, they found out about the fact that it was
I don't know whatever, the score was a six point
Saint Peter's lead with five minutes left, and they jumped
on their remotes and turned it on. But now, I mean,
who doesn't want to sit there and watch BYU versus
Alabama from the very beginning.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
That's a game that is fascinating.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
That maybe the two best pure offensive teams in college
basketball this season playing one another and playing against two
of the mediocre defenses that are left as which means
there won't be a lot they can do to stop
each other. So those are the kinds of games I'm
excited about. Kentucky, Tennessee of Maryland, Florida. Those are all
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fabulous college basketball games and now they have the consequence
of whoever wins has a shot at the national championship.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
I'm not that vexed by this.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
I don't know yet whether it's an anomaly or whether
it's a future trend.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
We had more.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Upsets in college basketball's NCAA Tournament over the first couple
of years of the transfer portal.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Than we ever really did before. We never saw a
fifteen seat in the Elite eight before. We had San.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Diego State from Florida Atlantic in the Final four.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
A couple of years ago.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
So I'm not ready to decide that this is what
it's always going to be because of how the transfer
portal works and how more mid majors are transferring up
and all that.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
It may be. But I don't think one year sets
a trend.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
No, I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Always fun to see a Cinderella win, but usually that
Cinderella comes to a crashing halt in the Semats sixteen
where they lose by twenty seven and we're not gonna
get not gonna get that. Mike de Corsi joining US
Northwest Handling Systems brings us Mike every single week. Well,
we were hoping for a Zags Houston Classic it didn't
look like it was going to be a classic, but
it certainly turned into a classic in the last few minutes.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
And you gave a shout out to Gonzaga.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
On Twitter, and Kelvin Sampson gave a long shout out
on the floor after the game to Mark Few and Gonzaga.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Would you make of that whole scene?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
And Mark Mark has done a phenomenal job with the
Gonzaga program, so phenomenal that people now say, gee, they
never won a national championship.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
It's like, oh, yeah, this tiny.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Catholic school in Spokane that plays in a mid major league,
how dare they not win a national championship? Clearly not
a clearly not a successful program without it. I mean,
it's what they did was historic. The other teams that
are in that conversation about NCAA tournament straight are North.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Carolina and Dukes. North Carolina and Dukes.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Two of the bluest blue bloods in college basketball, and
then there's Gonzaga in that tournament streak deal two national
championship games in that stretch of elite eights. They've had
a phenomenal run. And it's not over by any stretch.
I do worry about Postmark when they go into a
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more challenging league.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Whether they whether they'll be equipped to continue the success,
but Mark still wants to keep going at it, and
they will help them to compete by getting the extra
money that the PAC twelve will provide. We'll see what
the next chapter holds, but we don't know what anything
is going to be in ten years for college sports,
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So why not give the Zags the best possible chance
to continue this great success that they've had.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Well, Mike de Courcy again as our guest on the
radio show Talking to Basketball Sweet sixteen starts on Thursday.
We'll have Thursday's games on AM. By the way, we're
gonna be down at the ballpark with baseball Friday, switch
to the FM, and I guess simple question, man, why
in the world where they would anybody right now, with
the way they're playing, the way they look, want to
bet against this Duke Blue Devil basketball team because they
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look awesome.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, the only reason to bet against them is the
vagaries of the tournament. That's the only thing that you
would say is a negative for them. The only thing
that's not a glare like a gleaming positive is the
fact that they're trying to win a championship with a
converted point guard. Now, Fion James has done a terrific job.
He's a great leader for that team, really intelligent, really
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understands what his role is on this team. But it
is still a little bit different than having yourself a
Raymond Felton or a Ty Lawson or a Tias Jones,
guys who played that position at a high level there
lives and know every single element of it and that
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that comes into play in the biggest games.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
They don't have that, uh in their in their defense in.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
That regard, there's a lot of teams that are contenders
that don't have that. Uh Kentucky and and Tennessee will
play each other this week and they both have one
but one of them is going to be gone after
that night.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
The Kaysigler or Lamont Butler will be gone.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
There are Auburn.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Has really really capable talented point guard play, but they
don't They kind of split the position.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Uh So that so for them it's a question. Uh
So there there are other teams.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
You look at Walter Clayton at Florida, who's an All
American and he does not. He is not a natural
point guard. He's also a converted point guard again, doing
a phenomenal job. Made First Team All American for every
single UH consensus selector.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
But so, but that's so.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
That's about the only thing that I don't like about
in terms of trying to win it all. They've got
everything else. They've got a superstar who's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
A lottery pick. They've got multiple lottery picks.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Beyond that, they've got depth, They've got size, They've got
a backup size. Patrick Gogba has done a phenomenal job
since the ACC tournament started. He's different than come on
Mala watch. He's a more offensive oriented player. There's just
so many different things that they bring to the floor
that they might pick at the beginning of the tournament,
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and after watching them up close yesterday and Friday, I
feel even better about that.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Is Florida the most equipped of any team left to
beat them? I'm trying to you know, what's the list
of teams that if Duke still plays like a B
B plus game, how many other teams can actually beat
Duke if Duke still plays a requisite good game.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yeah, I think if Houston gets to the final four.
That's a team that could beat them.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I still don't necessarily believe in them as a national champion.
But you put them all on the floor in one game,
then Houston could cause defensive with their defense, I should say,
could cause offensive problems for Duke. They could they could
mess up Duke's offense. I think I could see that.
I don't know whether I would then feel that would
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be a semi final game. The way the brackets structured,
I don't know that I would then feel great about
them going on and win the championship. But I think
on a given day, I think they can do it.
Their defense is really special. But you saw what Gonzaga
did to that defense late, so so even that you know,
I mean when grahamy k hits them for twenty seven
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and I didn't think anybody, I think it took four
days to get twenty seven for a big guy against
that defense. When Graham did it, Now all of a sudden,
I'm not so sure that I feel that fearsome about
about the about playing that defense. So I do think
that that's a team that could do it, And I
agree with you. Flora has always been the team since
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I don't. I'm not saying the whole year, but since
the bracket came out that I felt like that's the
team that Duke will have to probably ultimately beat in
order to win it all.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Well, Mike, before you go, Mike to COURSEI with us
and we'll talk next week when the final four set. Obviously,
I saw where the portal opened up today and by
lunchtime there were five hundred kids in the portal and
we haven't even gotten you know, round three of the
NC DOUBLEA Tournament.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
How is this okay? For lack of a better question, I.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Think it comes down to the fact that the academic
calendar is not concerned about the sports calendar, and that's
why we have it open up when it does relative
to the college football playoff, and that's why we have
it open as it does relative to the NC DOUBLEA Tournament.
That you need to be able to get yourself in position,
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beat in the right place next year, and there's a
recognition of that. And it's not great for the sports teams,
but it is more fair to the athletes, and that's
why it is what it is, and so I think
that they just have to kind of live with it.
I know it's harder on the coaches, but hey, when
did the window open for all the coaches to go?
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I mean, we saw Will Wade basically openly and declaring
while he was coaching McNee State that he was going
to be leaving for NC State the minute they lost
their final game.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
So I don't.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Feel that badly for the coaches and the schools or
the athletic departments. I guess I should say when they
quite clearly are very willing to not worry about that
relative to coaching hires.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Mike de COURSI great stuff, appreciate it, Enjoy the sweet
sixteen Elite eight and we'll talk in a week. Palasach, buddy,
I will you bet guys, thank you.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
You got it.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Mike de Corsi, Sporting News, Big ten Networks joining us
on the show.
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Speaker 6 (20:35):
So, Jackson, we have some breaking news here at Emerald
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as he tried to inhale.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Let's see what these are.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Oh no, now you.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
No, I didn't have any Uh.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
He tried to inhale a full bag of Southern recipes
small pork rinds. During the break, he tried to get
the whole bag down. He said, I'm hungry. I'm hungry.
I haven't eaten anything all day. I gotta eat this
whole bag before we go on the air. And uh,
he got about three quarters of the way through and
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then one of them went down the wrong pipe and
he had to he had to leave the premises.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
But he's coming back here with water.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Now.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
The question is, oh, you got coffee? Are you all right?
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Because I thought I was gonna have, you know, I
thought I was gonna have to get it to end
it all?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Man, Oh boy, you wouldn't give me out the mouth.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
No, No, this could have been the day man, you know,
just keeled over on the air, had a stroke or
just you know, choke to death out of pork rinds.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Holy cow, man, I was hungry, dude, and there's one
thing you can't eat fast.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
It's a big bag of salt and pepper.
Speaker 9 (21:49):
Had what like an eight minute break there, so.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Well I didn't eat the whole bag of the break
eating those for an hour.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Yeah, my god.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Left little coffee here, a little you know, hot liquid
to kind of maybe calm things down. But I started
the ear you guys, don't watch something in that coffee. No,
I'd like, No, that's a great idea about hey, kidding,
what are we doing here? By the way, you know what,
the fact that you actually and I'm not saying you
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were wrong to do it questioning whether or not we
should be talking marinerd baseball on the Monday of the opener.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Isn't that pathetic? That just kind of ste where we're
at right now.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
It is pathetic, But I do feel like that's where
a majority of Seattle sports fans heads are. I think
a majority of that doubt. There are the hardcore baseball dudes.
There's Chuck and Buck. I mean that just I mean,
they love every single second of Spring course, and that's them, dude.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
I love every single second of March Madness.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
People don't know.
Speaker 9 (22:45):
Not everybody likes every single second of March matter.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
There's other things. I love every single second of a
PGA Tour event on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
That's this. That's our own gig.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
So that's cool.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
But I think the general audience in Seattle that are
listening to us are like, you know what, I'm I'm
gonna watch.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
When the season starts.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
Yeah, but I'm not getting jacked up for it. I'm
not getting optimistic for it. Everybody says they're gonna be good.
I need to see it before I believe it. I
saw them be ten games over five last year.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Really, really, I.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Mean, you remember how I was about this team. I
was really optimistic compared to most people. I was softer
on Jerry than most people. I was softer on Stanton
than most people. And when this team failed to do
anything last year during the offseason and then got to
a ten game lead in the division, right, and not
only blew it over the course of four months, they
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blew it over a course of weeks. Yeah, and not
only was it gone there, there didn't even seem like
there was hope to get it back. And that to
I mean, they really crushed me last year. And I
am super Jay.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Well, I think a lot of people agree with that,
and I totally understand it, you know, I guess I
just you know, I'm I'm into, uh, you know, the
pain that comes along with being a baseball fan. I
just keep coming back for more, Right, I'm just here
for another flogging, is what I'm doing as a baseball fan. Right,
I'll just I'll just bend over and take it in,
you know, every single year, I'll be with you right now.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
Right from the game.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Look, I mean, I don't really care what people do
as far as how they want to fan or they
want to jump on the wagon late they want to
be a die hard. They want to be a Johnny
come Lately. Look, i mean every team needs, you know,
that Johnny cum Lately segment.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I mean, can you imagine.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
If the Seahawks could only rely on diehards from the
seventies to be their fan base, there'd be nobody watching
the team. Right, So the more you win, people jump
on the wagon. The grandma's and the kids get involved
in all that stuff.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
I'm not gonna jump on the wagon. I'm gonna watch
them day one. I'm just saying I'm not fired.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Well, look, but I still think for me, we're doing
a damn sports talk radio show here and the Mariners
are opening the season on Thursday. So you know, what's
a bigger deal, what's a bigger story, What's what's the
top of mind? And maybe for you it's the tournament.
Maybe for others it's hockey. I got no idea. Maybe
for Jackson it's the Sounders or whatever they're doing this week.
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But for me, you know, we've got we've got you know,
four major, three major franchises here in Seattle, in the
Big Four right without the NBA. No disrespect to the
Storm and the Sounders, but the Big Four you guys
know typically what those four franchises mean, and one of
them is starting in three days. I mean, to me,
that's a big damn deal. So I'm looking forward to
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Thursday Night. But the excitement could dissipate very quickly. And
I know that Marita fans their leash is gonna be
very short with this baseball team. If they come out
and they lose the series to the A's and the
opening week, people are gonna be pissed. Hell, if they
lose Thursday Night with Logan Gilbert in the mound, who's
now your number one guy? People are not gonna give
these guys any Quarterjackson.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
And then whatsoever they're not.
Speaker 10 (25:52):
And I think that that's the difference for me for
this year compared to the last. I don't know how
many many many years, if not my entire time being
a Marat fan. Is that I I said, I'm gonna
be a fan day one. I'm going to just ride
or die until you lose me. And that's it's flipped
this year. It's the opposite. It's I'm not with you
until you get me on board. Like I will, I
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will wait for the ship to pass me in the
night and then once I not on the night again
on Tom Hanks in the ocean, I'm waiting for a
ship to come, and the Mariners are still like at
the dock, and until they actually like set sail, and
until they actually make progress out into the ocean to
get to the other continent, that being the playoffs, I'm
not going to jump onto the ship because.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
It just won't be there. I think.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I think the Mariners, and I really hope that they
hear things like this standing among them, by the way,
because I think they have to ask themselves, what did
we do to get to a point where three days
before the first game of the year, we have a
major problem where the fans are actually debating on the
air whether or not.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
We should be a priority, right right right?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
That's insane, Yeah, absolutely insane, especially with this pitching staff,
Like everybody should be fired up, we should be excited,
we should be thrilled that baseball season is starting on
Thursday because of this pitching staff that you've got, Julio Rondrigaez,
Cal Rowley, You've got some decent parts of the offense.
But again, they've just completely beaten us down so badly
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where there's actually a conversation had. Can you imagine having
potentially the league's best pitching staff and actually wondering if
three days before the first game of the year, you're
gonna be looking forward to baseball?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
What kind of a mean, stupid question is that?
Speaker 7 (27:36):
But here we are.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
I just thought of this analogy. Can you imagine that
you know, you've got yourself a nice home with nice furniture,
and you just decided to let a roof leak all
over your living room, and instead of spending the money
to fix the roof, you're just like, you know what,
we can live here. I mean, I can put a
tarp up that might stop some of the wetness from
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just my living room. And that's basically what this franchise
has done. They have built themselves a good house, they've
brought the furniture in, and they've just let this offense
leak all over their furniture and they did nothing to
fix it.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
See.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I think it's more like having a great house, but
nobody wants to buy it because the front yard's full
of poop. They won't even walking your front door. You
got this beautiful home, but nobody wants to go see
it because you've got all this crap in the front yard.
You got weeds growing so high that nobody can even
see the damn place. I don't know, dude, you know,
whatever analogy we want to come up with. I mean,
the bottom line is that this should not be a
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conversation yet it is a conversation.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
This should not be a problem, yet it is a problem.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Everybody should be excited, but instead we're taking texts from
people that are literally yelling at me for starting the
radio show of the Monday before Opening Day.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I was in baseball.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I mean, how did you get how did we get here?
Right to ask, how did we get here? Where that
actually happened?
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Speaker 2 (29:22):
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Speaker 3 (29:29):
Arizona is getting eight and a half. I like Arizona
a lot. You know what I want to do. I
want to do a parlay on every Sweet sixteen game?
How about that? All eight of Oh why did you
just take?
Speaker 6 (29:39):
Just take the heavy favorites and see what kind of
odds you can get to like, take Houston money line, Yeah,
take Duke money line. Take four or five money line
teams and see if you can get it. You know,
we're not gonna great odds, but you're gonna get decent.
You'll probably get plus odds if you take four of
the number one seeds to win this week.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well, and then when I win, I want to pull
the Mark James and tell the world about it.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
And if I lose, I won't say a damn.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
Screenshot your running tech.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
We're gonna do that roundtable tomorrow morning at nine o'clock.
I gotta bust his balls a little bit, man, So
the new guy needs his balls busting. Don't you think
a little indoctrination for crying out loud? Well, Hugh Mellen
was on with us at four o'clock today, and I
want to kind of go round the room on this
thing because another offensive lineman that visited the Seahawks has
come and gone and signed a contract with somebody else,
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and that's Dylan Redunds or I think signed with the Titans.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Tevin Jenkins was here he's gone.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
And the Seahawks, let's face it, outside of getting is
it the Jones kid whatever his name is, the backup? Yeah,
the new George Fan. They really haven't done anything, you know,
in free agency. And look, if they think that this
class of free agents is not worth the money and
they're terrible, then fine. I mean I've said to you before,
I don't mind overpaying for something if I'm terrible at
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doing it myself. Right, And all of us, as guys
that own a home, have had to fix something in
the house knowing we have no chance of doing it
ourself and have to pay somebody to do.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
It for it. I do that all the time, right, And.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
If we did it ourself, we probably could have saved
a ton of money, but we have no idea how
to do it, so we have to go pay somebody
two hund and fifty bucks an hour to come out
and do it ourselfs I had to put in like
a little timer for our outdoor lights near the front
entrance and take out the panel and all that stuff,
and I had no idea.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
How to do it, I'd fry myself.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I paid a guy like one hundred and fifty bucks.
He was there for twenty minutes. I'm like, what the
hell does that happen?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
But Gina looked at me and said, you know what,
better he does it than you, because you would have.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Killed yourself, right, or you would have gotten so furious
right it would have ruined your day.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
So the equivalent of that is John Schneider not knowing
how to develop and draft offensive lineman. Yes, so if
I have to go out and overpay for a street
free agent, knowing that I have no other choice because
I can't do it myself, I would be potentially willing
to do that.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
He apparently is not willing to do that.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
And Curtis Crabtree today, our old pal who now works
for Fox thirteen, brought up a point on Twitter that
maybe one of the reasons why the Seahawks aren't overpaying
for the guys on the market right now is because
they're stung and scarred by the Luke Jocal experience from
five or six years ago.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Which I would say that's possible.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I would also say if that's the case, then that's ridiculous,
Like we can't be running around not making moves because
we're concerned about getting burned the way that.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
We were five years ago.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
So I asked Hugh on the air today for his
thoughts on the lack of movement by the Hawks so
far when it comes to the offensive line and free agency.
Speaker 11 (32:37):
Well, I'm disappointed. I think it's the same old, same
old say. You know, here, John Schneider was reported like
four days ago. He says, you just can't throw money
at marginal play. Was the quote from Snyder, And that's
on last year. He said, I think that offensive guard
is overvalued and overdrafted.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Right.
Speaker 11 (32:56):
Well, meanwhile, as the Seahawks are sitting on their hands,
you know, I took note of Lake and Tomlinson he
signed with the Texans for four point two million. I
generally think the market kind of speaks.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Well.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
I think that you've got two issues here.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
One issue is there was nobody other than Will Fries
that they really really liked. And Will Fries took the
bird in hand versus you know, coming to Seattle and
taking the physical and I totally don't blame him for that.
The rest of these guys are just guys they're taking
to look at They don't really like. They're getting probably
more money from from elsewhere than Seattle wanted to pay him.
(33:38):
But we can't create a good free agent market for
interior offensive lineman. Some years you do have a good market.
This one clearly, and I'm not making this up. The
market is screaming that this is a terrible year for
interior offensive lineman in free agency. That's one thing. Another
thing is and there are some number to back it up.
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When you look at a guy like Garrett Bradbury and
you compare him to olu Ola with Timmy, the PFF
numbers are almost identical. Sure, so it's like you got
Olu and they think, and the PFF numbers back it up,
that he's just as good as Garrett Bradbury.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Why would you bring in Garrett Bradbury.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, Well, and maybe maybe that will pan out to
be true. Maybe it also will pan out that when
big big Olu is the starting center and doesn't get
pushed for his starting job and doesn't lose it to
Connor Williams like he did a year ago, or get
benched almost like he did a year ago, that he's
gonna go back to being the same guy he was
before he got pushed. I mean, there really is not
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a lot of data on OLU at all. Right, There's
not a big sample size with this kid whatsoever. There
was a bigger sampracise sample size with Garrett Bradberry for sure.
So look, I mean, if you want to roll with
the guy, that's fine, roll with the guy. But I
think all of us have an absolute reason to be
totally skeptical about what they're doing until they prove otherwise.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
Well, that's absolutely right here.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
And there's another avenue that we haven't talked about yet,
which I think John Schneider should be very aggressive during
draft season and doing, and that is trading a draft
pick for an existing starter on a team that has
got strength and depth in their interior offensive line. There
has got to be a team that where that is
their deepest position or one of their deepest positions, and
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they need more draft picks.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
Well, we got plenty of draft picks. So instead of drafting.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
A guard with the second round pick, trade your second
round pick for an established dude that has four years
of experience, three years of experience as a starter, and
you know, beyond the shadow of doubt from day number one,
he can start at left guard for you.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, I just think again, you've got you got six
months or five and a half months to fix this
before the season starts. And if they don't fix it,
they're going to take a world of heat, right, same
thing with.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Jerry Depoto with the offense falls apart.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
They're going to take a bunch of crap as well
from everybody, and it'll be all deserved. I mean, this
approach that they're taking, that Hugh talked about about not
overpaying guys and don't want to pay for marginal play
and blah blah blah. Okay, that's fine, but your attitude
hasn't worked, right, I mean, your attitude just has been
the wrong one because it has not resulted in good
players at that position.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
And I would say to your point, I would say
to John Schneider, every year could not have possibly been
a terrible year for centers and guards.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
And free agents.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Right, you have ignored good free agent situations. You've ignored
great free agent situations. Now you're ignoring a bad free agency.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Well again, you know you think just by stepping in it,
you know, once every fifteen years you'd find a way
to put a good line together. So maybe just by
sheer dumb luck, they'll be able to do it this year.
But I'm not seeing anything yet. And again, it's only
March twenty fourth, but I'm not seeing anything yet that
tells me that this Seahawk offensive line is going to
be that much improved over what we saw a year ago.