April 18, 2025 • 37 mins
In the first hour, Dick Fain and Hugh Millen react to the Mariners’ bats and series win in Cincinnati, then talk to ESPN’s Mina Kimes about the Seahawks, Shedeur Sanders, the defensive tackles, Jalen Milroe, and Grey Zabel before getting to some Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are here, Dave.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Softy Mahler is winging his way down to a SoCal
for the weekend. He'll be back on Monday. We'll join
you live from the Emerald Queen Casino. But as always,
when either Softy is out or I am out, we
go to the pen and we bring flame. We bring
one hundred mile an hour heat. We don't have a
problem like the Mariners do getting from the sixth inning
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to the ninth inning because we got Hugh Breed Love Millan.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
How you doing, man o, God, I'll try and bringing
absolutely everything that's right.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We're gonna talk a ton of football day. We got
Mina Kimes joining us in about fifteen minutes. We got
Lance Zerline at four twenty where you get a lot
of your thoughts on not only the Seahawks but the
draft to come. We are tick tick ticking our way
down to the draft just six days away, Hugh. But
I do want to start with the Mariners and a
chat about them. I think they I think they deserve it.
Ten and nine start. It was looking really really bleak
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at four and eight. They have since I turned things
around over the last and a half a little bit,
and you know my number one question heading into twenty
twenty five for the Seattle Mariners was does it just
look different offensively? I mean, I'm not even worried too
much about the numbers. To my eye, do does this
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baseball team offensively look different than it did a year ago?
And unquestionably to my untrained baseball eye, the answer is yes,
and we'll have some numbers that we can you know,
we can validate that in just a couple of seconds.
But you know, when you're watching this year's Mariners team,
does it look different to you what the Mariners are
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doing both at the plate and on the base paths
versus what you've seen a majority of the last four
or five years.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
To me, I think the season is broken into two halves.
There was every play and every pitch prior to Rose
Arenas Grand Slam, and everything since then interesting and I
feel like, now, look, it's early. I don't want to
be you know, drive this point home, because a lot
can still happen. But but since we only have a
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short sample size, I think that everything prior to Rose
Arena is Grand Slam. I would say the offense looked
just as bad as what we saw for most of
twenty twenty four. And I know that they they heat
it up at the very end, but a lot of
you know, a lot of that was inconsequential because right
because they were probably going to be out of it
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and they're playing teams that are out. You know, Yes,
But I think that if you would say, okay, what
have they done? You could go right up and in
to and including you know, the the last pitch before
the Era Rosarinas Slam Grand Slam and then starting with
the Arosarinus Grand Slam. Now, if you're if you're trying
to cook the books that way, you'd say, well, I
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get four runs right there. Yeah, you know, you know,
on my side, if I'm trying to make that point.
But I think I feel like they you know, obviously
Cal he started off really slow and now he's just
you know, he's bringing heat in his regard. I don't know,
I just I feel like, and I perused the numbers
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last night. This morning, I've looked in and and look,
I think you can make a case that they're about
an average offense. And a lot of people, yourself included,
have said, hey, if you're just average on offense with
this pitching staff, you could really ride that quite a bit,
and so I think that you could make the case
that they're an average offense, and you could make the
case that they're, you know, above average offense in most
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important statistics since the Rosa Raina Grand Slam.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
When you look at the numbers, and we'll we'll just
take a look at the whole season, not just since
the aros Areina Grand Slam. But last year they were
twenty first in run scored. They're fourteenth this year, so
averaged slightly above average home runs. They were actually a
slightly above average team in home runs. Last year they
were twelve with one hundred and eighty five. They're sixth
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in baseball this year on pace for two hundred and
twenty one. That's almost forty more home runs this year
than last year. Ops twenty second last year in baseball
at six eighty seven, on pace for sixteenth in baseball
right now at a seven oh one. And then the strikeouts,
this is significant. Last year worst in baseball sixteen one
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hundred and twenty five strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
This year they're only eleventh.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Worth they're still below average, but there's ten teams worse
than they are at striking out and they're on a
pace for two hundred less strikeouts this year than last year.
And so all of these metrics they've improved. And I
think you have to throw another little nugget that's very
important in with this. They've played thirteen WHOA, how about
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that he's excited about the Mariners.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Two.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
They've played thirteen of their nineteen games at home, where
their OPS is only six twenty three. So you've played
two thirds of your games in a place where it
is very, very difficult to hit. And yet Hugh, they
are still middle of the pack too, slightly above middle
of the pack, and all these metrics despite playing at
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T Mobile.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Park in April.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, and we've seen them kind of heat up in
the summertime. And look, I just think the I don't
know if it's the approach or what have you, but
you know, there was a lot of thought that Polonko
there's good reason to believe that he had been a
quality hitter and that twenty four was a one off.
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Now for those of us marin fans, you know, you know,
twenty five times bitten, you know, twenty six times shy,
or whatever the hell that you want to say. We've
seen a lot of guys that well, they don't play
to their baseball card when they come to Seattle, and
it's not just a one off. Well, if you're inclined
to believe he's going to be more like the player
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he had been in the last five years than you
would have expected him to improve.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
But uh, you've still got the issue.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Of Julio, you know, struggling in early season, struggling in
most clutch situations. You know, the double what was that
against Cleveland? The double with the bases loaded down the rights,
you know, out of the strike zone, down the line. Uh,
that was probably his best at bat of the year, right, yeah, yeah,
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And and uh and that was in the the the
Rose Arena game, right, wasn't.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I believe it was?
Speaker 5 (06:37):
I was.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I was in California, So I'm I'm I'm fuzzy week's
worth of baseball.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
For the Mariners.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, but you know, so there's still that kind of
just gnawing at the baseball team. Uh, what's happening with him?
But I think everything else, particularly you know cal Rawly,
we don't expect him to stay this hot, but that,
but that guy has really lifted the team.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Well to your.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Point on on Polaco, I was I was looking at
the stats. There is one game all season where he
doesn't either have a hit or an RBI and only
two games all season where he doesn't have a base hit.
I mean that that is pretty impressive. His OPS is
over one thousand and and this is the hardest time
for a Mariner to hit the baseball, and that is
in April, no question about it. I mean it's it's
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been terrible in April, especially at their home park. My
number one concern now is not the offense. My number
one concern now is what are we going to do
if we have to continue to pull pitchers midway through
the sixth inning? How do we get to munos? That's
my number one concern right now because I have only
seen one arm thus far in that seventh eighth inning
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role that looks like it's legit, and that was Gabe Spire.
And a lot of people talked about gab Spire and
in spring training saying this is a different gab Spire,
and so far he has been a different game Spire.
But you cannot survive with one pitcher you can count
on in the six seven.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
One well, and most hitters are right handed right so
he's not going to be the ideal matchup. I mean,
he's kind of more of a matchup. I don't know
what you'd say his role is, but he doesn't feel
like that, you know that eighth inning automatic guy, right,
you know, they feels like the goes to back to
back lefties in the seventh. Yeah, something something like that.
And and you know my question, what's the updated with Brash?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You know, and Brash pitched yesterday in Tacoma, hit ninety
seven on the gun, one scoreless inning in a strikeout,
So he's close.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
He's really close.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
So Cabury's coming and knock on wood, Munos has been
everything we could have ever thought un wanted and hope
he could be. I mean, I heard somebody make the
comment this guy, you know, it's, you know, one of
the best players in baseball through the first month, and
when you consider what's expected of your job and how
you're performing, I hadn't really thought in those terms, but
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but but.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Wow, right, absolutely, it's been fun and it's so much
it's so much more refreshing not to be saying, well,
it's early. Let's see if we can dig out of
this hole where we're already five games under five hundred
three to twelve on ninety three point three kJ RFM.
I'm gonna take a quick time out because Mina Kimes
from ESPN is going to join us at three twenty
to talk a little Seahawks and NFL Draft.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
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Speaker 5 (09:14):
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Speaker 2 (09:50):
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Mina Hi, Great to have you.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Great to have you.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And before we dig deep into the whole draft side
of things, I just kind of want to get your
take on John Schneider in this offensive line because, as
most people know, you're a big Seahawk fan. You just
you love them. You know exactly what's going on with
the with the Hawks. And do you think John Schneider
is just bad at picking out offensive lineman in the
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draft or do you think he has hamstrung himself by
really never taking an interior offensive lineman high in the
draft with a first or high second round pick.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Well, I think it's more of the ladder because I
think the tackles you say he gu's been pretty pretty
dang good. Obviously A Luca's health has been the limiting factor,
but you know, considering where he was drafted, obviously he's
far exceeded that expectation. And then I think Charles Cross
was a great pick. And so really it's about the
interior and as you guys said, it's just not been
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an area where they've invested a lot, and hopefully that'll
change this draft.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Mina times with us and Mina, I think that the
most intriguing story in the draft continues to be shaudor
Sanders for seemingly so many reasons.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
But I want to I want to hit you from a.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Giants perspective, where obviously the GM the head coach are
are on the ultimate hot seat. Uh is your sense
you could kind of make an argument, Hey, if you're
on the hot seat, you need to win now, you
don't want to take a quarterback. But then again, if
you do take a quarterback and uh, maybe you struggle,
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but you feel like the future is right, maybe that
could buy you a couple extra years. What what do
you think are the important and dynamics that play for
the Giants?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Should should do?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I don't expect them to go to Cleveland whatsoever. I
think he's going to be available to the Giants. What
do you think is going to be the thought process there?
Speaker 6 (12:11):
I think you said about trying to give your family
is actually more likely and in terms of not not
more likely that they're going to do. Like if you're
in the mindset of the GM is trying to save
his job, I think you're actually more likely to draft
a quarterback for that reason, right, because even if the
team's not that good, you know, maybe at the end
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of the season, the quarter rookie quarterback comes in, he
looks good. The team's like, oh, you chose a good guy.
There's some excitement, and I think that's a bad reason
to take a quarterback. It's why if I'm the Giants,
I'm actually hopeful they act not out of job preservation,
but with the long term interests of the team in mind.
And it kind of looks like it's gonna shake out
that way. I know that they've worked out store recently,
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but it feels more likely than not they're going to
go for, you know, one of the top two players
in hard But I think that's a to be wary of. Frankly,
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I don't think they'll take him.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
But and if he does fall, how far does the
Shadoor Sanders plummet go? Because that will obviously be topic
number one on your television network when as soon as
the Giants don't take him at three, it's gonna be
where does Shador go? And that'll be talking you know,
who knows, maybe for an hour or two.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Yeah, there's two teams you're looking at, right, the New
Orleans Saints at nine and then the Pittsburgh Steelers at
twenty one and both, frankly are mysteries when it comes
to store Sanders, especially when it comes to sure Sanders
versus Jackson Dart, who has gotten a lot of There's
been a lot of smoke around him going the first round. Lately,
there's been links between him and the Saints. If you
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had told me this come months ago, I never would
have believed it. I would have thought the Saints would
be thrilled to Jake Sanders at nine. But it's gotten
a little bit too lot loud, the buzz not, you know,
not to take seriously. Yeah, at first I thought a
team was going to have to jump Saints, maybe the
series would consider jumping in for Sanders, but I'm increasingly
of the mind that's probably not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Well, a lot of people are just saying, okay, well,
it's natural. The Saints just don't have a quarterback if
Derek Carr is out for the season. I mean, they
got Spencer Ratler and they got Jake Hayner, right, and
it was it was a mixed bag last year with
Spencer Ratley Rattler and mostly bad. But is anybody talking
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about the following dynamic If Shadur were to be drafted
by the Saints. He got Kellen Moore in year one,
and one would think, okay, he's secure. Deon Sanders went
on your network on February seventh and was asked, Hey,
the only you've said. He was asked, you've said you
you would only coach in the NFL if you could
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coach your son, and he said, that's right. I didn't stutter,
and so he seems to be pretty emphatic about that proposition.
H Meanwhile, you take the coaches that are one in
on just in this decade, Antonio Pears, Jared Mayo, Frank Wright,
Levy Smith, Nathaniel Hackett, David Cutley, and Urban Meyer. That
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the idea would be that maybe if, uh, if Shadur
goes to the Saints and things don't go real well,
they could just blow out Kellen Moore after one year
and hires Deon Sanders. Is that a concern for Kellen
Moore or anybody else in this equation, anybody else thinking
about Dion that Hey, if I for Shardur, if I
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draft Shador, I could be replaced by his father in
as soon as one year.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Uh. Maybe it's like a slight consideration, but I think
the concerns questions that any of these teams have about
Sanders have a lot less to do with that distant
possibility and a lot more to do with his issues
a pocket man, to be honest, store, you know, maybe
a uestions around arm talent. You know, if he draps
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your door and he's not good. Frankly, you're worried about
keeping your job period less worried about who's going to
replace you. So I don't think the dion of it
all is a huge factor in this process. I think
there's just reasonable questions about him as a prospect that
have nothing to do with all of the other stuff
or personality or interviews or whatever. They're really just purely
about him as a football player.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
To me, ESPN's Meena Times joins us on a weekly basis,
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Mercer Island. Visit them at Bridgeptandwillness dot com. So I
saw a video that you posted, I think it was yesterday.
You had five team fits that you would like to
see in the first round, fits being the players going
to certain teams. Seattle was one of those five teams.
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So disclosed for us on the air, who did you
choose for your perfect Seahawk fit and why.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
I won't enable to the interior offensive lineman at North
Dakosta State. Really, I mean, dude, every position in college,
but I think he's best suited as the NFL guard.
I think he's a great scheme fit for the Klink
Kubiak offense. He's fast, he's athletic. I think he's already
shown some proficiency in his own blocking scheme, and as
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we talked about the beginning of the show, it's just
such a glaring I need for them. I mean, this
offense is going to be dead on arrival if they
can't protect Sam Darnold better than how they protected Gino
Smith last year. I feel pretty confident in saying that.
You know, I keep hearing, Oh, the scheme's gonna be
easier on the alignment, I got care. Yeah, we've seen
a scheme across the NFL. Sure it's easier on lineman,
but if you don't have good lineman, good luck. Right.
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So I would really like that pick for him. I
think he's a really good player. I was a little
bit late to watching him, but I really like what
I've seen.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Is he worthy of the eighteenth or is he somebody
that you think John Schneider might be able to move
the twenty two to twenty three pick up some more
picks and still get them.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's all kind of is
in depends on where you're maneuvering, and if you've I
think you've definitely go down a little bit and still
get him. I have to look at the board and
look at potential teams that might be in the market
for because I think he's the best interior offensive lineman
the class. Tyler Booker is the other player, but they're
very different. I think different schemes will be looking at them.
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But so seat I's picking at eighteen, so they're behind
his Natty, which is a potential guard team by the way,
But after them, you're going to maybe Chargers, maybe things
more likely to take a tackle. Same with the Rams.
The Ravens at twenty seven are a team that I
would watch out for as a potential guard destination. So
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I think if you could fall back somewhere in that range,
you still got a good chance of getting in.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Speaking of trading, is there a guy that you would
trade up for if you were John Schneider, a guy
that if he's there within I'm not talking about trading
up to ten or nine, I'm talking about trading up
to fifteen or fourteen. Is there is there a guy
that if he's still there at fourteen fifteen, you're like, John,
pick up the phone and give him a second round
pick and let's go.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Well, I don't know about a second round pick, so
I think I would. I don't think there's a guy
who who's worth doing a monster trade for or monster trade,
like a big trade who's realistic. But you know, if
we're talking about like marginal movements Tedoro and McMillan, I
think the wide receiver, if he was available for Seattle
and they didn't have to give up a ton to
go up, that's a player that I would be eyeballing.
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I really like Colston Loveland, and but I don't think
it's gonna be worth what it might take to jump Indianapolis.
Who's the team that I'm kind of looking at is
if he gets back to Indianapolis, I think he's a
good chance he's a Seahawk with if Tyler Warren goes earlier, right,
which I think is pretty likely. But I'd be worried
of giving up too much draft capital to go up
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and get a tight end.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Are the people that you work with from the standpoint
of the impression they get John Snyder, Mike McDonald Obviously Snyder,
it's different now Snyder on paper has the final word,
where as Pete Carroll had. What are you hearing in
terms of of how that relationship like for example, let's
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say Mike McDonald fast fancies himself a safety that might
match what he got from Kyle Hamilton in Baltimore, or
a week side linebacker that might match what what he
had in Patrick Queen, and and he's kind of non like, hey,
let's get this guy. My my defense can really work
around that. What's your sense of of how Schneider? Maybe
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Schneider says, no, no, no, I gotta I got I
got to address the offense more.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
What what what?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
What do you think or what's the people that you
talk through this sense about how that relationship is going
to evolve in now Draft number two?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Well, first I'll say the player that I would that, Yeah,
I'm thinking about when you're you're bringing that idea of that,
what if McDonald, you know, gets the player he wants?
I guys think he's watched you Hot Campbell, the offul
linebacker out of Alabama and salivated. He's one of my
favorite players in the draft. He would be such a
perfect fit for the Seahawks. So I think he's when
you talking about like, ooh, that difference between the coach
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and whatever. But the coach knows that they have to
get better on offense too, And you know, all I've
heard is that it's like pretty collaborative. Schnyder's obviously given
him some leeway in terms of letting defensive players walk
that he's picked them. In free agency. You remember some
pretty surprise cuts right the linebacker position in particular last year.
That to me signified that, you know, McDonald definitely has
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influence on the personnel side of things, but offensively he
took pretty big risks this offseason with the reset. So
I think Snyder's calling the shots with I think McDonald
having maybe more influence over the types of defensive players
they take.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
You love the big tubs of goo in this draft,
those big defensive tackles. It's deep right there, and you know,
talk about the run stuffing defensive tackles that you like. Obviously,
the Seahawks got a defensive tackle last year, but he's
not that huge mammoth man that just plugs up the middle.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Who do you like at that position?
Speaker 6 (21:55):
A lot of guys. I mean the top My top
three at that udition are Kenneth Grant out of Michigan
and then after him, probably Tyler Williams Ohio State, Alfred
Collins out of Texas. Who just I mean, it's funny,
kind of reminds me. I mean, not I could afford
at all, but just thinking about Texas defensive tackles. But
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there's a lot of really good noses who like if
this draft will say you placed in nineteen ninety five,
would probably all go in the first round because they're
awesome at stopping the run. So I do think if
Seattle were to go with someone later in the draft,
there's definitely gonna be some options for them.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
How about Jalen Milroe.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I got laughed out of the studio a couple days
ago by Softie and Jackson. I mean, I am just
tantalized by Jalen Milroe. I understand he's got a lot
of warts when it comes to accuracy, but I am
just tantalized by maybe unprecedented athleticism at that position. When
you just look at the measurables, where are you on
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potentially taking a shot in the second round or maybe
early third for Jalen Milroe, he last that long.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Well, I think for some teams it makes sense. So
I don't know about Seattle per se maybe later, but
I don't think he's gonna be there in third round.
But as far as the player goes, I mean, got
a cannon right, probably the strongest arm in a draft,
and is an unbelievable runner. I think that was the
thing that just shocked me. Not just fast and explosive,
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but he's really really just like gifted at He's agile.
He I mean he runs like a running back, you know,
like he sets up defenders with his moves and he
runs with great vision. He's I think like if he
were ever to make a position to change, could absolutely
be successful, which, by the way, potentially creates a floor
for him as a player if you draft him knowing
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that he has that ability. But I got major question
marks about accuracy, processing, decision making. I'd be a little
bit concerned too, because he's been playing football at a
high level for so long, so It's not just like
you can point him and say, well, he just needs
better coaching. He's he's come from Alabama, guys, right, so
he's a lottery ticket That's so, I said an NFL
life state. It's what I believe. And if you're a
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team that can afford to buy a lottery ticket ticket,
then by go means go ahead and do it.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Well, it really comes down to is he more Anthony Richardson?
And I understand Anthony Richardson. We haven't written the epitaph
on his career, but it certainly hasn't been what the
Colts would have wanted. Is he more Anthony Richardson? Is
he more Jalen hurt Slash? You know, you might even
say Lamar in terms of Okay, here's a guy that
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you know, I was just watching tape of him, and
his good plays are are exceptional, Like you go, WHOA, Okay,
that's that's elite, but his bad plays are almost confounding.
It's uh right, I mean his bad stuff is really
bad on tape.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Yeah yeah, and it's like stretches the bad games. But
the like if you cut up season, you know at
a certain point you'd be the top ten big crete,
no question, but then.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Keep highlight tape for sure.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just don't. I actually don't view
them as close to either Hurts or Richardson and the
prospects ranked. I afot Richardson was a better prospect than
Jim Milrowe to be honest, man.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Before we let you go, I saw the Athletic yesterday
came out with their roster rankings and they ranked the
Hawks roster twenty second in the NFL, and part of
their comments were quote, they have a lot of holes,
And man, I guess I don't see that other than
the obvious interior line holes where they have at least two,
I just don't see a ton of gaping holes in
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this roster. What's your assessment?
Speaker 6 (25:39):
I think the defense is probably very underrated, and I
think the offense has holes. That's how I feel it,
so kind of it depends on how you're weighing everything, right,
I think the defense is in great shape and it's
also going in the right direction offensively. Interior offensive line.
I think both wide receiver and tight ends are areas
though that they need to improve at and I hope
they do in the draft.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Man, we always appreciate it We'll talk to you next week.
Fantastic job making the semis of Celebrity Jeopardy. By the way,
I recorded that on Wednesday just so I could watch
it when I when I got home, I watched it
this week. Here so close to making the finals. But
as we found out from you scared money doesn't make money.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Right, don't make money exactly right. I hope that they
the draft the same way.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
There we go, love it. We'll talk to you next week. Thanks, Mina.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
You bet.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Mina kives from from ESPN. You know, some interesting interesting
takes there. She loves the defensive. What do you think
of the defense of the big tubs of goo, Hugh,
because that's always a you know, run stuffing, especially in
the twenty twenty five era of the NFL, where it
does we do look like we're shifting back into more
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run dominated offenses out there. What does the defensive front
look like for you with those run stuffers with Seattle, Yeah,
potentially a guy that potentially could fit there.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that, Yeah, they you
should view them as as telling it enough that you're
probably thinking more depth position now that would be the
position above all others on a team. That I would
want to be the most deep right and you know
the Eagles, they just seem to keep drafting inside guy
after the inside guy. You know, I'm kind of fond
(27:20):
of Kirby Smart's quote. He says, look, it's a passing game.
It's twenty twenty four. But that's why I want to
devote as many people, to as many bodies to the
passing game as I can. And I want to I
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want to be able to stop the run without having
to put the safety down. So stopping the run is
extremely important because of how I view the way I
want to stop the pass with having safeties back. And
so I think there's a lot of you know, I've said,
I think Mike McDonald is. You know, his resume was
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in the discussion for you know, the smartest defensive mind
on planet Earth. Now Steve Spagnola would be sharing that
conversation if you want to argue back, and I think
Kirby Smart, if you consider what he's done, not just
as the head coach at Georgia but the defense coordinator
to Alabama, his his no, depending on how you want
to ascribe, you know, NFL versus college football. But Kirby
(28:27):
Smart is is brilliant and just the fact when when
he talks about anything about philosophy, defense philosophy, I'm listening
and I think that a lot of that applies to
the NFL as well.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
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Speaker 1 (28:50):
It's now time for Softy and Dig's Fun with Audio.
Jimmy g Paint Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo. Now let's have
some fun with audio.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Let's have some fun with audio, shall we? Softy in
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the Emerald Queen Casino.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Hey, Hu, did you hear that?
Speaker 4 (29:10):
What's that dick?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Earlier this week on Fun with Audio, we heard ESPN
steven A Smith say that Phoenix Suns owner Matt Ishbia,
who just recently bought the team, is on the verge
of becoming the worst owner in the history of the NBA. Well,
yesterday's press conference is should be a fired back at
steven A.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Yeah, So, Steve Asmith you know, I don't take much
he says seriously. You know, I don't think many people do.
To be honest with you, you know, the things he
said about Kevin Durant just wrong and disrespectful. Of the things
he said about Lebron James were just disrespectful and inappropriate.
And so with that being said, I don't really think
stephen A believes that what he said. I think, you know,
he's doing his thing. He's on the mic and he's
(29:50):
doing what he and I think he'll apologize to me
because I think it's disrespectful to put my name and
aligned with anybody that was kicked out of the league
or no longer probably like, yeah, if he wants to say,
for the first two and a half years managed toy
A bought the team, we didn't win a championship, I
think you probably said about almost every owner ever. But
I think, like I said, he'll he'll apologize.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
I think he was out of line, and I think
he knows that. I don't think he really believes that.
Speaker 7 (30:11):
You know, I think if you ask the people in Phoenix,
they probably think I'm a great owner. You know, the
TV all the games on TV for free, like that's
a big profitability hit, but we led with that. I
walked the concourse and realized the concession Shandon prices are crazy,
and we lower the prices like that. That's that's what
I think a great owner would do.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I think a great owner would win when you've got
I don't know Kevin Durant on your team that might
that might do. But I guess having all the games
on free television is good. But I thought it was ludicrous, Hugh,
what steven A Smith said.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
I think.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I think much of what steven A says is just
for reaction like this. And no, I do not think
steven A is going to issue an apology to matt
ishbiet in one one iota of me thinks that's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah, that's I have a different take. My My first
thought is why is he even why why is he
even commenting on that right right now now, even if
he was directly asked, there's ways to move on, because
steven A Smith, what's he doing when he hears that,
he's grinning from ear to ear. I'm I'm living rent
(31:18):
free in this dude's head. You thank you for the publicity,
Thank you for the credibility of stamp. You know, I
just got the blue stamp on my my comments. I
don't know, just like, be above it. You're an owner
of an NBA team. Now, now, was it four number
ones or just three that they they sent for for Durant?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Oh boy, that's a good question. I think it might
have been four, actually, but I have to go back
and look, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, I mean that's uh, that's a pretty dubious deal.
But I think the really, I think the reason why
it's in this segment is because he talked about it,
and I would I would advise him. I just like,
don't give Stephen Smith the satisfaction, don't give him the credibility,
you know, just just be above it.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, it could have been easy to have a five
second response dismissing.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
It could have been and you know it should be
noted on the five second thing.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
That was fifty eight seconds of a two minute and
thirty second answer from ISHBA.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Wow you went not to minutes seconds.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Oh hey, two minutes and thirty three seconds more than
it should have been.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
That's right, Hey, Hue, you hear that? What's that?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Dick Lee Corso officially retiring from ESPN's College Game Day.
His final appearance will come in Week one of this
coming season. In honor of Courso.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Today, let's go back.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
To September of twenty twenty three when Corso said this
about the upcoming game between Wazoo and Oregon State, the last.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
Two standing in the Conference of Champions, Oregon State and
Washington stage.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
And nobody watch this bowl.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, nobody wants it for guys, where's where's his name?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
To see?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I remember when he said that. I did get a
chuckle out of that. It was not very nice of him.
It wasn't nice of me to chuckle when he said that,
but he did. Lee has been great, honestly you I've
been a religious watcher of college game Day for probably
twenty years. But I will say in the last two
or three years where Lee has kind of, you know,
(33:24):
faded off. You didn't see him every week, and when
he was in there, you know, just wasn't the same
Lee as it was, you know ten years ago, I've
watched less. So maybe maybe Lee is what brought me
to college game Day. And certainly the head gear. I
would always watch right at nine o'clock to see what
the head.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Gear pick was well, they've got they've got the greatest
coach that ever walked a sideline that replaced him. I
mean to me, I would say, if you watched it
for Corso, you should ten X watch it for Nick
saban I think Nick sabin Is is a demonstrably better
(34:03):
coach than uh than Bill Belichick, at least in my
mind what I would qualify because just take a look
before if you want to retort, take a look at
Belichick's record without Tom b Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
No, I would agree with that.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
And Nick has won championships with how many different starting quarter.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Well, he's won seven championships with six different quarterbacks. You
had one that that participated in two. So yeah, I
I I just think Nick sabin Is must listen to.
As As for Lee Corso, I think I probably feel
like everybody, he was a great part of that show
for a long long time. Then there's a period where
(34:44):
you go, well, he's kind of slipping, but it's like
he's so iconic. Like I'll just say, Keith Jackson, Keith Jackson.
Guess what if you stumble on a couple of names
where you get the yard line wrong, I still want
to hear you do.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
The Rose pick because you're Keith freaking Jackson. It's the
day long period, it's.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
The day phenomenon. Yeah, you know, swung on and belt
it in the shortstop catches it. We're fine, it's Dave
kneehouse mine.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
You're still listening to Dave.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
And but there is a point where that recedes, that
stage recedes into Oh, this is kind of getting sad,
like somebody, some one of his loved ones needs to intervene.
And I think I think that Corso has been in
that situation for a couple of years now, and so
it's good that he's stepping aside.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
In my opinion, Hey, huge, you hear that?
Speaker 4 (35:26):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
One? More here?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yesterday on the ESPN's Around the Horn, La Times columnist
Bill Platschke begged the UCLA football program to avoid bringing
in former Tennessee quarterback Nico Yamalayeva.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Bill, what's the vibe?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
What's the sell here in the UCLA?
Speaker 8 (35:43):
Don't do it. Don't take him. This kid is toxic.
At some point we have to talk about these kids.
He has two point four million dollars salary. He wants
to double his money. You know, he doesn't want to
win a playoff game, and he.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Walks out out on the team in spring practice.
Speaker 8 (35:55):
The first day of spring practice, he walks out, he leaves,
just just takes off, leaves him with nothing, goes to
Trasy Warren. And so the next thing that takes that
to understand he's all about the money. He's not out
the team and two to a half million dollars is
not enough for him, even though he's an average quarterback
against six, he's toxic.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I don't think so. Is he toxic you?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I'd have to dig in more. I've watched him play
a number of games. I thought I was. I thought
he was very overrated at Tennessee. I watched him. You know,
I just got more interested in the SEC this year
because my kid was playing in the in the conference.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
So I watched a lot of including against Florida.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I just thought, WHOA, this guy just doesn't make the
plays that you would expect a big time quarterback or
even a good quarterback to make. I thought I thought
that the Tennessee one games despite him, not because of him.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
I think he's it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I think that that this is gonna be you know, this,
this hopefully is a precedent that we can refer to two, three, four, five,
ten years from now. He's a cautionary tale to players.
So I don't know if he's toxic. I think he's
very foolish, and he's an adult.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
He's old.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I feel bad for him, but he's old enough to
walk down and enlist in the military and go get
carved up in Afghanistan. Like he's got nobody to blame
but himself. Now there's reports that maybe his dad influence him. No,
he's an adult. He's gonna regret this. This is a
life changing decision he made, and I got a feeling
he's gonna regret it for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
All Right, we come back.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Greg Bell on the TNT yesterday put his Seahawks mock
draft out there, and guess who he had the Seahawks
taking in the second round.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Jalen Milroe.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
We'll get Hughes breakdown of him, as well as a
couple of these other rookie quarterbacks when we come back
after the top of the hour Headlines on ninety three
point three KJRFM
We are here, Dave.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Softy Mahler is winging his way down to a SoCal
for the weekend. He'll be back on Monday. We'll join
you live from the Emerald Queen Casino. But as always,
when either Softy is out or I am out, we
go to the pen and we bring flame. We bring
one hundred mile an hour heat. We don't have a
problem like the Mariners do getting from the sixth inning
(00:22):
to the ninth inning because we got Hugh Breed Love Millan.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
How you doing, man o, God, I'll try and bringing
absolutely everything that's right.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We're gonna talk a ton of football day. We got
Mina Kimes joining us in about fifteen minutes. We got
Lance Zerline at four twenty where you get a lot
of your thoughts on not only the Seahawks but the
draft to come. We are tick tick ticking our way
down to the draft just six days away, Hugh. But
I do want to start with the Mariners and a
chat about them. I think they I think they deserve it.
Ten and nine start. It was looking really really bleak
(00:56):
at four and eight. They have since I turned things
around over the last and a half a little bit,
and you know my number one question heading into twenty
twenty five for the Seattle Mariners was does it just
look different offensively? I mean, I'm not even worried too
much about the numbers. To my eye, do does this
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baseball team offensively look different than it did a year ago?
And unquestionably to my untrained baseball eye, the answer is yes,
and we'll have some numbers that we can you know,
we can validate that in just a couple of seconds.
But you know, when you're watching this year's Mariners team,
does it look different to you what the Mariners are
(01:42):
doing both at the plate and on the base paths
versus what you've seen a majority of the last four
or five years.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
To me, I think the season is broken into two halves.
There was every play and every pitch prior to Rose
Arenas Grand Slam, and everything since then interesting and I
feel like, now, look, it's early. I don't want to
be you know, drive this point home, because a lot
can still happen. But but since we only have a
(02:10):
short sample size, I think that everything prior to Rose
Arena is Grand Slam. I would say the offense looked
just as bad as what we saw for most of
twenty twenty four. And I know that they they heat
it up at the very end, but a lot of
you know, a lot of that was inconsequential because right
because they were probably going to be out of it
(02:31):
and they're playing teams that are out. You know, Yes,
But I think that if you would say, okay, what
have they done? You could go right up and in
to and including you know, the the last pitch before
the Era Rosarinas Slam Grand Slam and then starting with
the Arosarinus Grand Slam. Now, if you're if you're trying
to cook the books that way, you'd say, well, I
(02:51):
get four runs right there. Yeah, you know, you know,
on my side, if I'm trying to make that point.
But I think I feel like they you know, obviously
Cal he started off really slow and now he's just
you know, he's bringing heat in his regard. I don't know,
I just I feel like, and I perused the numbers
(03:14):
last night. This morning, I've looked in and and look,
I think you can make a case that they're about
an average offense. And a lot of people, yourself included,
have said, hey, if you're just average on offense with
this pitching staff, you could really ride that quite a bit,
and so I think that you could make the case
that they're an average offense, and you could make the
case that they're, you know, above average offense in most
(03:38):
important statistics since the Rosa Raina Grand Slam.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
When you look at the numbers, and we'll we'll just
take a look at the whole season, not just since
the aros Areina Grand Slam. But last year they were
twenty first in run scored. They're fourteenth this year, so
averaged slightly above average home runs. They were actually a
slightly above average team in home runs. Last year they
were twelve with one hundred and eighty five. They're sixth
(04:03):
in baseball this year on pace for two hundred and
twenty one. That's almost forty more home runs this year
than last year. Ops twenty second last year in baseball
at six eighty seven, on pace for sixteenth in baseball
right now at a seven oh one. And then the strikeouts,
this is significant. Last year worst in baseball sixteen one
(04:25):
hundred and twenty five strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
This year they're only eleventh.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Worth they're still below average, but there's ten teams worse
than they are at striking out and they're on a
pace for two hundred less strikeouts this year than last year.
And so all of these metrics they've improved. And I
think you have to throw another little nugget that's very
important in with this. They've played thirteen WHOA, how about
(04:52):
that he's excited about the Mariners.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Two.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
They've played thirteen of their nineteen games at home, where
their OPS is only six twenty three. So you've played
two thirds of your games in a place where it
is very, very difficult to hit. And yet Hugh, they
are still middle of the pack too, slightly above middle
of the pack, and all these metrics despite playing at
(05:16):
T Mobile.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Park in April.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, and we've seen them kind of heat up in
the summertime. And look, I just think the I don't
know if it's the approach or what have you, but
you know, there was a lot of thought that Polonko
there's good reason to believe that he had been a
quality hitter and that twenty four was a one off.
(05:39):
Now for those of us marin fans, you know, you know,
twenty five times bitten, you know, twenty six times shy,
or whatever the hell that you want to say. We've
seen a lot of guys that well, they don't play
to their baseball card when they come to Seattle, and
it's not just a one off. Well, if you're inclined
to believe he's going to be more like the player
(06:01):
he had been in the last five years than you
would have expected him to improve.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
But uh, you've still got the issue.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Of Julio, you know, struggling in early season, struggling in
most clutch situations. You know, the double what was that
against Cleveland? The double with the bases loaded down the rights,
you know, out of the strike zone, down the line. Uh,
that was probably his best at bat of the year, right, yeah, yeah,
(06:32):
And and uh and that was in the the the
Rose Arena game, right, wasn't.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I believe it was?
Speaker 5 (06:37):
I was.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I was in California, So I'm I'm I'm fuzzy week's
worth of baseball.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
For the Mariners.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, but you know, so there's still that kind of
just gnawing at the baseball team. Uh, what's happening with him?
But I think everything else, particularly you know cal Rawly,
we don't expect him to stay this hot, but that,
but that guy has really lifted the team.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Well to your.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Point on on Polaco, I was I was looking at
the stats. There is one game all season where he
doesn't either have a hit or an RBI and only
two games all season where he doesn't have a base hit.
I mean that that is pretty impressive. His OPS is
over one thousand and and this is the hardest time
for a Mariner to hit the baseball, and that is
in April, no question about it. I mean it's it's
(07:18):
been terrible in April, especially at their home park. My
number one concern now is not the offense. My number
one concern now is what are we going to do
if we have to continue to pull pitchers midway through
the sixth inning? How do we get to munos? That's
my number one concern right now because I have only
seen one arm thus far in that seventh eighth inning
(07:42):
role that looks like it's legit, and that was Gabe Spire.
And a lot of people talked about gab Spire and
in spring training saying this is a different gab Spire,
and so far he has been a different game Spire.
But you cannot survive with one pitcher you can count
on in the six seven.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
One well, and most hitters are right handed right so
he's not going to be the ideal matchup. I mean,
he's kind of more of a matchup. I don't know
what you'd say his role is, but he doesn't feel
like that, you know that eighth inning automatic guy, right,
you know, they feels like the goes to back to
back lefties in the seventh. Yeah, something something like that.
And and you know my question, what's the updated with Brash?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You know, and Brash pitched yesterday in Tacoma, hit ninety
seven on the gun, one scoreless inning in a strikeout,
So he's close.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
He's really close.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
So Cabury's coming and knock on wood, Munos has been
everything we could have ever thought un wanted and hope
he could be. I mean, I heard somebody make the
comment this guy, you know, it's, you know, one of
the best players in baseball through the first month, and
when you consider what's expected of your job and how
you're performing, I hadn't really thought in those terms, but
(08:54):
but but.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Wow, right, absolutely, it's been fun and it's so much
it's so much more refreshing not to be saying, well,
it's early. Let's see if we can dig out of
this hole where we're already five games under five hundred
three to twelve on ninety three point three kJ RFM.
I'm gonna take a quick time out because Mina Kimes
from ESPN is going to join us at three twenty
to talk a little Seahawks and NFL Draft.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
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Speaker 2 (09:50):
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Mina Hi, Great to have you.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Great to have you.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And before we dig deep into the whole draft side
of things, I just kind of want to get your
take on John Schneider in this offensive line because, as
most people know, you're a big Seahawk fan. You just
you love them. You know exactly what's going on with
the with the Hawks. And do you think John Schneider
is just bad at picking out offensive lineman in the
(10:39):
draft or do you think he has hamstrung himself by
really never taking an interior offensive lineman high in the
draft with a first or high second round pick.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Well, I think it's more of the ladder because I
think the tackles you say he gu's been pretty pretty
dang good. Obviously A Luca's health has been the limiting factor,
but you know, considering where he was drafted, obviously he's
far exceeded that expectation. And then I think Charles Cross
was a great pick. And so really it's about the
interior and as you guys said, it's just not been
(11:11):
an area where they've invested a lot, and hopefully that'll
change this draft.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Mina times with us and Mina, I think that the
most intriguing story in the draft continues to be shaudor
Sanders for seemingly so many reasons.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
But I want to I want to hit you from a.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Giants perspective, where obviously the GM the head coach are
are on the ultimate hot seat. Uh is your sense
you could kind of make an argument, Hey, if you're
on the hot seat, you need to win now, you
don't want to take a quarterback. But then again, if
you do take a quarterback and uh, maybe you struggle,
(11:50):
but you feel like the future is right, maybe that
could buy you a couple extra years. What what do
you think are the important and dynamics that play for
the Giants?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Should should do?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I don't expect them to go to Cleveland whatsoever. I
think he's going to be available to the Giants. What
do you think is going to be the thought process there?
Speaker 6 (12:11):
I think you said about trying to give your family
is actually more likely and in terms of not not
more likely that they're going to do. Like if you're
in the mindset of the GM is trying to save
his job, I think you're actually more likely to draft
a quarterback for that reason, right, because even if the
team's not that good, you know, maybe at the end
(12:31):
of the season, the quarter rookie quarterback comes in, he
looks good. The team's like, oh, you chose a good guy.
There's some excitement, and I think that's a bad reason
to take a quarterback. It's why if I'm the Giants,
I'm actually hopeful they act not out of job preservation,
but with the long term interests of the team in mind.
And it kind of looks like it's gonna shake out
that way. I know that they've worked out store recently,
(12:52):
but it feels more likely than not they're going to
go for, you know, one of the top two players
in hard But I think that's a to be wary of. Frankly,
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I don't think they'll take him.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
But and if he does fall, how far does the
Shadoor Sanders plummet go? Because that will obviously be topic
number one on your television network when as soon as
the Giants don't take him at three, it's gonna be
where does Shador go? And that'll be talking you know,
who knows, maybe for an hour or two.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Yeah, there's two teams you're looking at, right, the New
Orleans Saints at nine and then the Pittsburgh Steelers at
twenty one and both, frankly are mysteries when it comes
to store Sanders, especially when it comes to sure Sanders
versus Jackson Dart, who has gotten a lot of There's
been a lot of smoke around him going the first round. Lately,
there's been links between him and the Saints. If you
(13:45):
had told me this come months ago, I never would
have believed it. I would have thought the Saints would
be thrilled to Jake Sanders at nine. But it's gotten
a little bit too lot loud, the buzz not, you know,
not to take seriously. Yeah, at first I thought a
team was going to have to jump Saints, maybe the
series would consider jumping in for Sanders, but I'm increasingly
of the mind that's probably not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Well, a lot of people are just saying, okay, well,
it's natural. The Saints just don't have a quarterback if
Derek Carr is out for the season. I mean, they
got Spencer Ratler and they got Jake Hayner, right, and
it was it was a mixed bag last year with
Spencer Ratley Rattler and mostly bad. But is anybody talking
(14:27):
about the following dynamic If Shadur were to be drafted
by the Saints. He got Kellen Moore in year one,
and one would think, okay, he's secure. Deon Sanders went
on your network on February seventh and was asked, Hey,
the only you've said. He was asked, you've said you
you would only coach in the NFL if you could
(14:49):
coach your son, and he said, that's right. I didn't stutter,
and so he seems to be pretty emphatic about that proposition.
H Meanwhile, you take the coaches that are one in
on just in this decade, Antonio Pears, Jared Mayo, Frank Wright,
Levy Smith, Nathaniel Hackett, David Cutley, and Urban Meyer. That
(15:09):
the idea would be that maybe if, uh, if Shadur
goes to the Saints and things don't go real well,
they could just blow out Kellen Moore after one year
and hires Deon Sanders. Is that a concern for Kellen
Moore or anybody else in this equation, anybody else thinking
about Dion that Hey, if I for Shardur, if I
(15:32):
draft Shador, I could be replaced by his father in
as soon as one year.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Uh. Maybe it's like a slight consideration, but I think
the concerns questions that any of these teams have about
Sanders have a lot less to do with that distant
possibility and a lot more to do with his issues
a pocket man, to be honest, store, you know, maybe
a uestions around arm talent. You know, if he draps
(16:03):
your door and he's not good. Frankly, you're worried about
keeping your job period less worried about who's going to
replace you. So I don't think the dion of it
all is a huge factor in this process. I think
there's just reasonable questions about him as a prospect that
have nothing to do with all of the other stuff
or personality or interviews or whatever. They're really just purely
about him as a football player.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
To me, ESPN's Meena Times joins us on a weekly basis,
brought to you by Bridge Physical Therapy and Wellness in
Mercer Island. Visit them at Bridgeptandwillness dot com. So I
saw a video that you posted, I think it was yesterday.
You had five team fits that you would like to
see in the first round, fits being the players going
to certain teams. Seattle was one of those five teams.
(16:45):
So disclosed for us on the air, who did you
choose for your perfect Seahawk fit and why.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
I won't enable to the interior offensive lineman at North
Dakosta State. Really, I mean, dude, every position in college,
but I think he's best suited as the NFL guard.
I think he's a great scheme fit for the Klink
Kubiak offense. He's fast, he's athletic. I think he's already
shown some proficiency in his own blocking scheme, and as
(17:14):
we talked about the beginning of the show, it's just
such a glaring I need for them. I mean, this
offense is going to be dead on arrival if they
can't protect Sam Darnold better than how they protected Gino
Smith last year. I feel pretty confident in saying that.
You know, I keep hearing, Oh, the scheme's gonna be
easier on the alignment, I got care. Yeah, we've seen
a scheme across the NFL. Sure it's easier on lineman,
but if you don't have good lineman, good luck. Right.
(17:36):
So I would really like that pick for him. I
think he's a really good player. I was a little
bit late to watching him, but I really like what
I've seen.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Is he worthy of the eighteenth or is he somebody
that you think John Schneider might be able to move
the twenty two to twenty three pick up some more
picks and still get them.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's all kind of is
in depends on where you're maneuvering, and if you've I
think you've definitely go down a little bit and still
get him. I have to look at the board and
look at potential teams that might be in the market
for because I think he's the best interior offensive lineman
the class. Tyler Booker is the other player, but they're
very different. I think different schemes will be looking at them.
(18:14):
But so seat I's picking at eighteen, so they're behind
his Natty, which is a potential guard team by the way,
But after them, you're going to maybe Chargers, maybe things
more likely to take a tackle. Same with the Rams.
The Ravens at twenty seven are a team that I
would watch out for as a potential guard destination. So
(18:34):
I think if you could fall back somewhere in that range,
you still got a good chance of getting in.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Speaking of trading, is there a guy that you would
trade up for if you were John Schneider, a guy
that if he's there within I'm not talking about trading
up to ten or nine, I'm talking about trading up
to fifteen or fourteen. Is there is there a guy
that if he's still there at fourteen fifteen, you're like, John,
pick up the phone and give him a second round
pick and let's go.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Well, I don't know about a second round pick, so
I think I would. I don't think there's a guy
who who's worth doing a monster trade for or monster trade,
like a big trade who's realistic. But you know, if
we're talking about like marginal movements Tedoro and McMillan, I
think the wide receiver, if he was available for Seattle
and they didn't have to give up a ton to
go up, that's a player that I would be eyeballing.
(19:22):
I really like Colston Loveland, and but I don't think
it's gonna be worth what it might take to jump Indianapolis.
Who's the team that I'm kind of looking at is
if he gets back to Indianapolis, I think he's a
good chance he's a Seahawk with if Tyler Warren goes earlier, right,
which I think is pretty likely. But I'd be worried
of giving up too much draft capital to go up
(19:43):
and get a tight end.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Are the people that you work with from the standpoint
of the impression they get John Snyder, Mike McDonald Obviously Snyder,
it's different now Snyder on paper has the final word,
where as Pete Carroll had. What are you hearing in
terms of of how that relationship like for example, let's
(20:08):
say Mike McDonald fast fancies himself a safety that might
match what he got from Kyle Hamilton in Baltimore, or
a week side linebacker that might match what what he
had in Patrick Queen, and and he's kind of non like, hey,
let's get this guy. My my defense can really work
around that. What's your sense of of how Schneider? Maybe
(20:30):
Schneider says, no, no, no, I gotta I got I
got to address the offense more.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
What what what?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
What do you think or what's the people that you
talk through this sense about how that relationship is going
to evolve in now Draft number two?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Well, first I'll say the player that I would that, Yeah,
I'm thinking about when you're you're bringing that idea of that,
what if McDonald, you know, gets the player he wants?
I guys think he's watched you Hot Campbell, the offul
linebacker out of Alabama and salivated. He's one of my
favorite players in the draft. He would be such a
perfect fit for the Seahawks. So I think he's when
you talking about like, ooh, that difference between the coach
(21:02):
and whatever. But the coach knows that they have to
get better on offense too, And you know, all I've
heard is that it's like pretty collaborative. Schnyder's obviously given
him some leeway in terms of letting defensive players walk
that he's picked them. In free agency. You remember some
pretty surprise cuts right the linebacker position in particular last year.
That to me signified that, you know, McDonald definitely has
(21:22):
influence on the personnel side of things, but offensively he
took pretty big risks this offseason with the reset. So
I think Snyder's calling the shots with I think McDonald
having maybe more influence over the types of defensive players
they take.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
You love the big tubs of goo in this draft,
those big defensive tackles. It's deep right there, and you know,
talk about the run stuffing defensive tackles that you like. Obviously,
the Seahawks got a defensive tackle last year, but he's
not that huge mammoth man that just plugs up the middle.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Who do you like at that position?
Speaker 6 (21:55):
A lot of guys. I mean the top My top
three at that udition are Kenneth Grant out of Michigan
and then after him, probably Tyler Williams Ohio State, Alfred
Collins out of Texas. Who just I mean, it's funny,
kind of reminds me. I mean, not I could afford
at all, but just thinking about Texas defensive tackles. But
(22:16):
there's a lot of really good noses who like if
this draft will say you placed in nineteen ninety five,
would probably all go in the first round because they're
awesome at stopping the run. So I do think if
Seattle were to go with someone later in the draft,
there's definitely gonna be some options for them.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
How about Jalen Milroe.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I got laughed out of the studio a couple days
ago by Softie and Jackson. I mean, I am just
tantalized by Jalen Milroe. I understand he's got a lot
of warts when it comes to accuracy, but I am
just tantalized by maybe unprecedented athleticism at that position. When
you just look at the measurables, where are you on
(22:54):
potentially taking a shot in the second round or maybe
early third for Jalen Milroe, he last that long.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Well, I think for some teams it makes sense. So
I don't know about Seattle per se maybe later, but
I don't think he's gonna be there in third round.
But as far as the player goes, I mean, got
a cannon right, probably the strongest arm in a draft,
and is an unbelievable runner. I think that was the
thing that just shocked me. Not just fast and explosive,
(23:22):
but he's really really just like gifted at He's agile.
He I mean he runs like a running back, you know,
like he sets up defenders with his moves and he
runs with great vision. He's I think like if he
were ever to make a position to change, could absolutely
be successful, which, by the way, potentially creates a floor
for him as a player if you draft him knowing
(23:44):
that he has that ability. But I got major question
marks about accuracy, processing, decision making. I'd be a little
bit concerned too, because he's been playing football at a
high level for so long, so It's not just like
you can point him and say, well, he just needs
better coaching. He's he's come from Alabama, guys, right, so
he's a lottery ticket That's so, I said an NFL
life state. It's what I believe. And if you're a
(24:04):
team that can afford to buy a lottery ticket ticket,
then by go means go ahead and do it.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Well, it really comes down to is he more Anthony Richardson?
And I understand Anthony Richardson. We haven't written the epitaph
on his career, but it certainly hasn't been what the
Colts would have wanted. Is he more Anthony Richardson? Is
he more Jalen hurt Slash? You know, you might even
say Lamar in terms of Okay, here's a guy that
(24:32):
you know, I was just watching tape of him, and
his good plays are are exceptional, Like you go, WHOA, Okay,
that's that's elite, but his bad plays are almost confounding.
It's uh right, I mean his bad stuff is really
bad on tape.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Yeah yeah, and it's like stretches the bad games. But
the like if you cut up season, you know at
a certain point you'd be the top ten big crete,
no question, but then.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Keep highlight tape for sure.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just don't. I actually don't view
them as close to either Hurts or Richardson and the
prospects ranked. I afot Richardson was a better prospect than
Jim Milrowe to be honest, man.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Before we let you go, I saw the Athletic yesterday
came out with their roster rankings and they ranked the
Hawks roster twenty second in the NFL, and part of
their comments were quote, they have a lot of holes,
And man, I guess I don't see that other than
the obvious interior line holes where they have at least two,
I just don't see a ton of gaping holes in
(25:36):
this roster. What's your assessment?
Speaker 6 (25:39):
I think the defense is probably very underrated, and I
think the offense has holes. That's how I feel it,
so kind of it depends on how you're weighing everything, right,
I think the defense is in great shape and it's
also going in the right direction offensively. Interior offensive line.
I think both wide receiver and tight ends are areas
though that they need to improve at and I hope
they do in the draft.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Man, we always appreciate it We'll talk to you next week.
Fantastic job making the semis of Celebrity Jeopardy. By the way,
I recorded that on Wednesday just so I could watch
it when I when I got home, I watched it
this week. Here so close to making the finals. But
as we found out from you scared money doesn't make money.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Right, don't make money exactly right. I hope that they
the draft the same way.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
There we go, love it. We'll talk to you next week. Thanks, Mina.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
You bet.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Mina kives from from ESPN. You know, some interesting interesting
takes there. She loves the defensive. What do you think
of the defense of the big tubs of goo, Hugh,
because that's always a you know, run stuffing, especially in
the twenty twenty five era of the NFL, where it
does we do look like we're shifting back into more
(26:46):
run dominated offenses out there. What does the defensive front
look like for you with those run stuffers with Seattle, Yeah,
potentially a guy that potentially could fit there.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that, Yeah, they you
should view them as as telling it enough that you're
probably thinking more depth position now that would be the
position above all others on a team. That I would
want to be the most deep right and you know
the Eagles, they just seem to keep drafting inside guy
after the inside guy. You know, I'm kind of fond
(27:20):
of Kirby Smart's quote. He says, look, it's a passing game.
It's twenty twenty four. But that's why I want to
devote as many people, to as many bodies to the
passing game as I can. And I want to I
(27:40):
want to be able to stop the run without having
to put the safety down. So stopping the run is
extremely important because of how I view the way I
want to stop the pass with having safeties back. And
so I think there's a lot of you know, I've said,
I think Mike McDonald is. You know, his resume was
(28:03):
in the discussion for you know, the smartest defensive mind
on planet Earth. Now Steve Spagnola would be sharing that
conversation if you want to argue back, and I think
Kirby Smart, if you consider what he's done, not just
as the head coach at Georgia but the defense coordinator
to Alabama, his his no, depending on how you want
to ascribe, you know, NFL versus college football. But Kirby
(28:27):
Smart is is brilliant and just the fact when when
he talks about anything about philosophy, defense philosophy, I'm listening
and I think that a lot of that applies to
the NFL as well.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Great stuff from Mena Kimes. We appreciate her joining us
on a weekly basis. Brought to you by Bridge Physical
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Speaker 1 (28:50):
It's now time for Softy and Dig's Fun with Audio.
Jimmy g Paint Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo. Now let's have
some fun with audio.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Let's have some fun with audio, shall we? Softy in
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Speaker 1 (29:08):
Hey, Hu, did you hear that?
Speaker 4 (29:10):
What's that dick?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Earlier this week on Fun with Audio, we heard ESPN
steven A Smith say that Phoenix Suns owner Matt Ishbia,
who just recently bought the team, is on the verge
of becoming the worst owner in the history of the NBA. Well,
yesterday's press conference is should be a fired back at
steven A.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Yeah, So, Steve Asmith you know, I don't take much
he says seriously. You know, I don't think many people do.
To be honest with you, you know, the things he
said about Kevin Durant just wrong and disrespectful. Of the things
he said about Lebron James were just disrespectful and inappropriate.
And so with that being said, I don't really think
stephen A believes that what he said. I think, you know,
he's doing his thing. He's on the mic and he's
(29:50):
doing what he and I think he'll apologize to me
because I think it's disrespectful to put my name and
aligned with anybody that was kicked out of the league
or no longer probably like, yeah, if he wants to say,
for the first two and a half years managed toy
A bought the team, we didn't win a championship, I
think you probably said about almost every owner ever. But
I think, like I said, he'll he'll apologize.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
I think he was out of line, and I think
he knows that. I don't think he really believes that.
Speaker 7 (30:11):
You know, I think if you ask the people in Phoenix,
they probably think I'm a great owner. You know, the
TV all the games on TV for free, like that's
a big profitability hit, but we led with that. I
walked the concourse and realized the concession Shandon prices are crazy,
and we lower the prices like that. That's that's what
I think a great owner would do.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I think a great owner would win when you've got
I don't know Kevin Durant on your team that might
that might do. But I guess having all the games
on free television is good. But I thought it was ludicrous, Hugh,
what steven A Smith said.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
I think.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I think much of what steven A says is just
for reaction like this. And no, I do not think
steven A is going to issue an apology to matt
ishbiet in one one iota of me thinks that's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah, that's I have a different take. My My first
thought is why is he even why why is he
even commenting on that right right now now, even if
he was directly asked, there's ways to move on, because
steven A Smith, what's he doing when he hears that,
he's grinning from ear to ear. I'm I'm living rent
(31:18):
free in this dude's head. You thank you for the publicity,
Thank you for the credibility of stamp. You know, I
just got the blue stamp on my my comments. I
don't know, just like, be above it. You're an owner
of an NBA team. Now, now, was it four number
ones or just three that they they sent for for Durant?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Oh boy, that's a good question. I think it might
have been four, actually, but I have to go back
and look, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, I mean that's uh, that's a pretty dubious deal.
But I think the really, I think the reason why
it's in this segment is because he talked about it,
and I would I would advise him. I just like,
don't give Stephen Smith the satisfaction, don't give him the credibility,
you know, just just be above it.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, it could have been easy to have a five
second response dismissing.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
It could have been and you know it should be
noted on the five second thing.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
That was fifty eight seconds of a two minute and
thirty second answer from ISHBA.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Wow you went not to minutes seconds.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Oh hey, two minutes and thirty three seconds more than
it should have been.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
That's right, Hey, Hue, you hear that? What's that?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Dick Lee Corso officially retiring from ESPN's College Game Day.
His final appearance will come in Week one of this
coming season. In honor of Courso.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Today, let's go back.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
To September of twenty twenty three when Corso said this
about the upcoming game between Wazoo and Oregon State, the last.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
Two standing in the Conference of Champions, Oregon State and
Washington stage.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
And nobody watch this bowl.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, nobody wants it for guys, where's where's his name?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
To see?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I remember when he said that. I did get a
chuckle out of that. It was not very nice of him.
It wasn't nice of me to chuckle when he said that,
but he did. Lee has been great, honestly you I've
been a religious watcher of college game Day for probably
twenty years. But I will say in the last two
or three years where Lee has kind of, you know,
(33:24):
faded off. You didn't see him every week, and when
he was in there, you know, just wasn't the same
Lee as it was, you know ten years ago, I've
watched less. So maybe maybe Lee is what brought me
to college game Day. And certainly the head gear. I
would always watch right at nine o'clock to see what
the head.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Gear pick was well, they've got they've got the greatest
coach that ever walked a sideline that replaced him. I
mean to me, I would say, if you watched it
for Corso, you should ten X watch it for Nick
saban I think Nick sabin Is is a demonstrably better
(34:03):
coach than uh than Bill Belichick, at least in my
mind what I would qualify because just take a look
before if you want to retort, take a look at
Belichick's record without Tom b Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
No, I would agree with that.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
And Nick has won championships with how many different starting quarter.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Well, he's won seven championships with six different quarterbacks. You
had one that that participated in two. So yeah, I
I I just think Nick sabin Is must listen to.
As As for Lee Corso, I think I probably feel
like everybody, he was a great part of that show
for a long long time. Then there's a period where
(34:44):
you go, well, he's kind of slipping, but it's like
he's so iconic. Like I'll just say, Keith Jackson, Keith Jackson.
Guess what if you stumble on a couple of names
where you get the yard line wrong, I still want
to hear you do.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
The Rose pick because you're Keith freaking Jackson. It's the
day long period, it's.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
The day phenomenon. Yeah, you know, swung on and belt
it in the shortstop catches it. We're fine, it's Dave
kneehouse mine.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
You're still listening to Dave.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
And but there is a point where that recedes, that
stage recedes into Oh, this is kind of getting sad,
like somebody, some one of his loved ones needs to intervene.
And I think I think that Corso has been in
that situation for a couple of years now, and so
it's good that he's stepping aside.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
In my opinion, Hey, huge, you hear that?
Speaker 4 (35:26):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
One? More here?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yesterday on the ESPN's Around the Horn, La Times columnist
Bill Platschke begged the UCLA football program to avoid bringing
in former Tennessee quarterback Nico Yamalayeva.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Bill, what's the vibe?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
What's the sell here in the UCLA?
Speaker 8 (35:43):
Don't do it. Don't take him. This kid is toxic.
At some point we have to talk about these kids.
He has two point four million dollars salary. He wants
to double his money. You know, he doesn't want to
win a playoff game, and he.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Walks out out on the team in spring practice.
Speaker 8 (35:55):
The first day of spring practice, he walks out, he leaves,
just just takes off, leaves him with nothing, goes to
Trasy Warren. And so the next thing that takes that
to understand he's all about the money. He's not out
the team and two to a half million dollars is
not enough for him, even though he's an average quarterback
against six, he's toxic.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I don't think so. Is he toxic you?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I'd have to dig in more. I've watched him play
a number of games. I thought I was. I thought
he was very overrated at Tennessee. I watched him. You know,
I just got more interested in the SEC this year
because my kid was playing in the in the conference.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
So I watched a lot of including against Florida.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I just thought, WHOA, this guy just doesn't make the
plays that you would expect a big time quarterback or
even a good quarterback to make. I thought I thought
that the Tennessee one games despite him, not because of him.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
I think he's it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I think that that this is gonna be you know, this,
this hopefully is a precedent that we can refer to two, three, four, five,
ten years from now. He's a cautionary tale to players.
So I don't know if he's toxic. I think he's
very foolish, and he's an adult.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
He's old.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I feel bad for him, but he's old enough to
walk down and enlist in the military and go get
carved up in Afghanistan. Like he's got nobody to blame
but himself. Now there's reports that maybe his dad influence him. No,
he's an adult. He's gonna regret this. This is a
life changing decision he made, and I got a feeling
he's gonna regret it for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
All Right, we come back.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Greg Bell on the TNT yesterday put his Seahawks mock
draft out there, and guess who he had the Seahawks
taking in the second round.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Jalen Milroe.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
We'll get Hughes breakdown of him, as well as a
couple of these other rookie quarterbacks when we come back
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