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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where we go.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
First of all, Kaylin de Boor, to the chagrin of
a lot of Husky fans, by the way, we'll join
us coming up at three twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
This after they're complaining we're having them on. They're very
very much.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
It seems to be a perfect day of all days,
to have him on.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I think a lot of Husky fans just simply hate
his guts. And I get I mean, we've talked about
this before. I get that sentiment. I don't share that feeling.
I don't think you share that feeling, but a lot
of Husky fans do, and I understand it. But Kaylen
de Boor will join us in three twenty eight, not
to talk really Alabama or to talk Dogs, but to
talk about two players, Jalon Milroe and Robbie Oots, who
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the Seahawks drafted a quarterback and tight end from Alabama.
And I did see, by the way, one mock draft
for twenty twenty six already for next year that has
Caden Procter his tackle going number one overall and next
year's draft. So we'll talk to Klen coming up at
three twenty eight about Jalen Milroll, maybe the most polarizing
figure in the Seahawk draft class. As far as disagreements
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between Seahawk fans, we'll get to that. Jalen Milroe himself
will join us coming up at five o'clock today, and
then a little more at four with Hugh Millin at
four o'clock. We'll also get some fun with audio as
the show goes on. So, I mean, look, the Mariners
are red hot. We'll get to them in a minute. Obviously,
the big news of the weekend was the NFL Draft.
All we're asking the ms to do is just kind
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of hang around. They're doing more than hanging around right now,
so they deserve their due, and we'll get to them.
But look, I don't know what you guys think, And
I always tell myself after every draft, I'm not going
to have any real strong opinions or emotions one way
or the other about the players that they got. You know,
I always am just kind of a fan of Hey,
just tell me the logic, right, Explain to me why
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you needed that position, What your thought process is here,
what your thought process is there.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
You guys are the pros.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
You guys go out and figure out what player you
want to use to fill that role and then give
me a couple of years to see if they made
the right call.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I will just say this that I have not had
more fun.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
It's funny because both of us said, and I think
Jackson you have agreed that going in this wasn't really
a great draft for talent. I think both of us said,
the ratings may not be that great, you know, not
a lot of controversy, big names, and there ended up
being a lot of controversy with chadur Lea the way
obviously when it was all said and done, but for
a draft that we didn't think was that talented overall.
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I don't think I've ever had more fun watching a
Seahawk draft in the last maybe ten.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
To fifteen years. I mean, it was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I mean every single pick was like hell yeah, or
oh my god, or can you believe they got this guy?
Or look at the measurables or I've seen him play,
I know what a badass he is. The Damian Martinez thing, dude.
I remember going down to Oregon State with Greg and
Mario for the game two years ago in that rainstorm.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Were you there by the way for that game in
Corvallace that night?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And watching this guy just run all over UB's defense
could not tackle that dude. I mean, he was Maybe
the most impressive thing about the night was the way
he played in that game. So I'm fired up to
have Damian Martinez. This Mason Richmond, guy that the Seahawks
got in the seventh round, started forty three games at
tackle for Iowa, forty three at left tackle, and now
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he's a Seahawks. Ricky White put up stupid numbers at UNLV.
Tory Horton played with Millan's kid at Nevada and Colorado State.
You got a tight end from Alabama. You got a
guy in Arroyo who played tight end for Miami. We're
watching the tape on this guy on Friday, and the
cop you used was Jeremy Stevens. And Millan said he
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was at the Miami Florida game earlier this year in
Week one or last year in Week one and thought
he was a wide receiver. That's how good he looks
on the hoof the nickibn Wori thing. My god, look
at his numbers at the combine. He just killed the
combine like number one at almost every major thing at
the combine. Among safeties, Gray's Abel all of us wanted
a guard. We all wanted the Hawks to go high
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with the interior of the offensive line, and they don't
do much. They just go out and get the second
highest drafted interior lineman ever in team history with Gray's
on Thursday Night, and then Jalen Milroe and just the
intrigue and the disagreements going on around Jalen Milroe. Guys,
I gotta tell you again, I don't know how these
guys will turn out. Some of them won't even to
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make the team and half of them might end up
being Turks when it's all said and done. But for now,
I don't know if I've ever had this much fun
or I'm more fired up for a Seahawk draft class
than I've been in a long time.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
It's my favorite John Schneider draft of all Yeah, it
really is. And greys Abel was a no brainer pick.
And John Schneider doesn't always take no brainer picks. John
Schneider sometimes Ziggs, when frequently Ziggs when everybody thinks he's
going to zag, and he didn't.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
This year.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
He took the best guard on the board in greys Abel.
Nick Ammon Warry. We talked about him on Friday.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
He's my favorite pick because he's the guy that if
you just look like, if you were to ask, Okay,
who's got the best chance to be a five time
All Pro? I mean, this guy just has all the
measurables to be a superstar at whatever position you want
to put him back there, whether it's Nickell, whether it's
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that they're gonna put him, I mean it's it's just
it's unbelievable what he's able to do on tape. And
then Jalen Milroe for a guy on Friday that I
wanted to have him draft in the second round. For
them to give him to in the third, I could
not be more happy. Yeah, because this is a guy
that you should put on the field week one. In
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certain situations you should use him like the Huskies used
Demon Williams last year. You put him in on a
third and two situation. You put him in on a
third and goal situation. I mean that is going to
be awful. What for defenses?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
What un the ball to run the ball? To run
the ball, Because that's not how Jet Fish used Demon Williams.
Though he let them on Williams throw the ball.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I would not let jal throw the ball as much
as jet fish. But it's not to say I wouldn't
ever let Jalen Millro run the ball because you don't
want the defense to say, well, all he's gonna do
is run, right, you got to have that dual threat.
I absolutely he had twenty rushing touchdowns last year. There
is no reason if he doesn't have fifty carries this season,
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which is about three a game or so. I think
he's being misused, and I think the question should be
asked to Mike mcdonne at the end of the year,
why do you have this athlete sitting on your bench
not getting any carries?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Well, I'm I'm cures. I mean, first of all, Jackson,
I don't know what you think. To me, the most
intriguing conversation about the draft the Seahawks had is revolving
around Jalen Milroe.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yah, of course, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I mean, the guy was the ninety second pick in
the draft. You know, I get it. But there's other
players that were drafted before him. He was the fourth
Seahawk player taken, if I'm not mistaken, Is that right? Stable,
even Warre and then Royal and then Milroe. So typically
we're not sitting here talking about the fourth player drafted
in an eleven player class and focusing the conversation around
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that guy. But that's what we're doing. I mean, what
do you think they're doing in Cleveland right now? They're
talking about shouls and he was in the fifth round.
For god, they took like seven guys before him. But
he's the conversation in Cleveland. So I mean, guys, as
I sit here right now, the most intriguing selection and
the most controversial I guess if you will, and the
most conversation is around him. Because there's a couple of
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things that I would just ask about Jalen Milroe and
like you and I talked about last week, you would
have taken him in the second round. I would not
have taken him in the second round. Jackson, you would
not have taken him in the second round. I'm okay
with ninety two. It's practically a fourth round pick. For
crying out loud, I'm okay with ninety two. I am curious, though,
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why all these teams Jackson that needed quarterbacks. Cleveland, the Saints,
the Jets, the Rams are looking at a thirty seven
year old Matt Stafford with two years left on his contract.
You draft a guy like that and put him behind
him for a couple of years, and everybody passed on him. Yeah,
we're gonna talk to Kaelin de Moore in about fifteen
minutes from now. We can talk to him about why
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he thinks he fell. But that's the question I would ask,
is that why did this guy fall all the way
to ninety two? If he's that spectacular an athlete, and
if he was gonna go, did he need to go
to a team that had a rock solid option a
quarterback right now?
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Well, definitely, definitely, this is the exact circumstance that's best
for Milroe. And it could have been the Rams. But
either way, you want a guy like Sam Donald who's there,
who can I think is the biggest thing is like,
obviously Debor is gonna rave about him. We'll see how
I'm interested to see how critical he is over the
deficiencies of Milroe because I think as football fans and
SOFTI we know you watched a ton of Alabama football
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this last year. It's very clear that Jalen Milroe's number
one deficiency is consistent accuracy and decision making. And if
he can pick up on those things from Sam Donald
and from the other quarterby Drew Locks on the roster
as well. If he can learn and round that out
his game. Where this is why he's the number one
topic I think coming out of the draft is because guys,
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is this a super Bowl team the next two years? Maybe?
Could it be a super Bowl team in three, four,
five Years' abs a freaking lutely because those are the
years where we're talking about a probably Milros still on
rookie deal, and then b we're talking about a guy
who may have his game fully rounded out to that
point to take us to the promised Land.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I think he's a bust proof pick because of his athleticism.
I'm not saying he's a bust proof pick because I'm
claiming that he is going to be a Seahawks starting
quarterback for seven or eight years.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
But there is that opportunity.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
There is a percentage, and I don't think it's a
five percent chance. I think it's much greater than that
that he is the Seahawks starting quarterback for seven, eight,
nine years. But I think there's just about a zero
percent chance because of the way if you use him
the way that I just talked about, a couple of
minutes ago. There's a zero percent chance he doesn't help.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
You at all.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Like most of these quarterbacks that are gonna get drafted
because of their lack of athleticism, they either have to
be the starter going forward in two or three years
or else they just rot right and they mean nothing
for you.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I just don't think ninety two can he be a
bust anyway? I mean he's the ninety second. I mean
what guy got drafted ninety two and then five Oh,
he was a bust. He was almost one hundredth player
taken for God's sake. So I don't even know if
he would ever even deserve to be a bust no
matter what his career does. But like people have compared
him to Taysom Hill, he's he's a different body style.
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He's probably faster than Taysom Hill. He might even be
tougher than Taysom Hill. You know where Taysom Hill was drafted.
He was undrafted, he was undrafted free agent. So that's
typically guys like that, And maybe the Taysom Hill experiment
in New Orleans has kind of risen his stock a
little bit. Just like we talk about what Russell Wilson
did for guys like Kyler Murray, right, I mean Bryce Young,
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same thing. If those guys don't have success, you know,
teams aren't taking short quarterbacks number one. But I mean,
there's so many polarizing just quotes about this guy. And
again he'll join us at five. We'll ask him what
he thinks about all of it. Cavin de Boor coming
up at three twenty eight. I'm looking at a quote
from Tom. Tom Pellisero actually spoke to one NFL coordinator
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who said that they heard that if he had gone
back to Alabama, all the Skolle players would have left
and quit because the guy can't throw the ball. That
sounds a little hyperbombic, But would they have had a
couple of guys left maybe? I mean, look, I watched
a lot of his games last year, and he's not
a good passer. I mean, yes, he's got all the
athleticism in the world. I mean, Millin's made it perfectly clear,
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and he's talked about it before. Beautiful deep ball cannon
for an arm, But Jacob Eason had a cannon for
an arm and couldn't survive in the NFL. Jacob Eason,
though doesn't run like, this guy doesn't have this guy's speed.
So I mean, it's just it's very intriguing. I love
where they got him. Again, I would not have been
a fan of using anything more than that on him.
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I don't know how big of a role he plays
from day one. I would assume that you're right, Dick,
that there's gonna be some kind of package for him
right away.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Third and short, fourth and short.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I mean, imagine, like I said this, going into the
AFC Championship game with Buffalo in Kansas City, how aggressive
will Buffalo be with Josh Allen on fourth and one
from their own thirty yard line in that game and
just run his ass right.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Up the middle? How aggressive?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Now can Mike McDonald be and clip koobiak things that
Pete Carroll never would have thought about doing?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Ever? Ever? Ever?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Fourth and six inches, fourth and ten inches, fourth and
a foot from your own thirty five yard line. We're
gonna see now, big balls. McDonald give the ball to
mil Row and say the hell with it, let's go
get our free first down and keep this thing going.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Well.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I think what also it does is it turns third
and three, third and four into a run pass situation
like Philadelphia does right. Almost every team third and three,
third and four is shotgun, you're throwing. But Philadelphia, you
know what they do third and three and third and four.
They run the ball because they know fourth and a
yard and a half. They're just gonna toush push for
the first down.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
And by the way, that quote by Pelisaro, there's another
one here from NFL dot Com at a story I
think the zerline may have done. The story, by the way,
where one AFC quarterback coach said he's the greatest runner
of the football at quarterback I've ever seen, ever says
this guy it's Lamar, It's it's Jalen Hurts, it's Lamar Jackson,
It's called him Kaepernick. AFC coordinator has a lot of
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accuracy issues, but he's a freak.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
This is this is the second person here.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
He's the best running quarterback I've ever evaluated.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
His case.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
He's got Cam Newton's power with Lamar Jackson's.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Speed, Hm Newton's.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
He's a true developmental type player. He's electric. But they
all go on to say, here's one more. One AFC executive, Uh,
he's the fastest guy on the damn field. He was
out running angles. He's just so efing aerratic. He's a
smart enough kid, but not a fast processor. He's into
all these effing mental coaches. Has to see it open.
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Doesn't have anticipation. Typical big rifle, armed effort, who throws
everything effing hard and fast.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Guy likes that. Guy likes this a.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's intriguing, right, It's very intriguing how they'll use him.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
It's obvious that John Schneider was prioritizing athleticism. You know,
next Gen Stats does their athleticism scale for all these
guys that get drafted. Ninety to one hundred is elite,
one hundred is perfect. Here's your first four picks, Zabel ninety, Emon,
Worry ninety one, Arroyo eighty five, mil Row ninety nine
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on a scale of zero.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Do I'll tell you what I think they're prioritizing is
running the ball. That's what I think. I think they're
prioritizing pounding the ball.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Don how do you think that makes me feel dead?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I think it gives you.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I'm already sweating.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Can you say, I guess I just didn't. I was
trying to think of member.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, I was trying to think of a different word
and nothing where it came to me. I'm just gonna
go ahead and say it. Man, we're all married, blah
blah blah.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Does this on Sunday and I got Jonah Coleman on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
God my god, Nick's fall is going to be unbelievable
for me.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
May have to get a room by Yeah, we're gonna
have to get fait in a room at the iHeart Studios.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But yeah, I mean that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I just think they're just looking at that they're looking
at I mean again, this left tackle from Iowa, this
Mason Richmond Kidd, and I just love them to know
more about why fell. Damian Martinez, who was at Oregon
State went to Miami. I mean, these guys are all
just they are smash mouth football players. You got a
tight end from Bama, you got a safety from the SEC.
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You got maybe the greatest running quarterback in the history
of college football. You got a road greater in Zabel,
who comes from a school that just churns out offensive
lineman like Dary Gold churns out Butter. It's unfreaking believable
what they've done. So yeah, I'm a little excited Jackson
about this drecon.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
We should be we should all be excited because they
took care of the number we got.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
A week ago.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Guys, we were having the conversation right the number one
need and really the biggest hole and you really can't
find another hole even close to his big is an
interior offensive line and they freaking did it at eighteen?
Are you beautiful sonta ah?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Kaylen de Boor, by the way, you can say bitch
on the raide.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
We just said something, Kaylen de Boor, a lot of
Husky fans might be saying the same thing.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
He'll join us next to talk about a couple of players.
Jalen Milroe, Robbie Oots, who the Seahawks got in the
fifth round and then again he may have the number
one picking next year's draft.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Two.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
What's what Jalen Milroe? What does he offer? How much
better can he get as a pastor? What happened at Alabama?
How does he think the Seahawks will then should use him?
Next on ninety three to three KJRFM.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
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Now back to Softie and Dick on your Home for
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Speaker 8 (16:48):
This is so good. This is a family car right here.
With the ninety second pick of the twenty twenty five
NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks has select my nephew, quarterback
Alabama Jalen Milroe.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
You know, I just put two and two together. Did
they let Sean.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Make that pick because they knew it was a Bama
guy introducing Obama guy.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I knew right away that he was going to be doing.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I looked pretty good. It woked out pretty good well.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Jalen Milroe drafted with the ninety second pick overall by
the Seahawks over the weekend and joining us right now
in the radio sare to talk about him. The former
head coach of the Huskies and the current head coach
of the Alabama Crimson Tide.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Kaylin de boor with US coach, how are you?
Speaker 6 (17:35):
I'm good? How are you guys doing?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Ah good? Good? Appreciate you doing this?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Uh your reaction to Jalen Milroe, you go, you leave
Seattle to go to Tuscaloosa, and now Milroe's leaving Tuscaloosa
to come to Seattle. So tell tell us what we're
getting in this guy. What kind of kid is he?
When you when you first hear the name Jalen Milroe
cayln what what kind of pops in your head?
Speaker 9 (18:00):
Well, I think as a kid, and I mean he's
not a kid anymore, but uh, there's just as a
person you got, you got top tier, I mean, first
class in every way. And so, uh, he's gonna he's
a guy that's someone that you know, the franchise is
always going to be proud of and gonna lead him
in the right right direction. The community's gonna love being
around this guy. He's very Many people use the word polarizing.
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I think it's a good one. I mean a lot
of people just like to see and feel and be
around him. I mean, you know, whether it's autographs or
interviews or whatever it is. Uh, you know, he's just
got that smile, he's got that personality.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Uh, he's fun to be around.
Speaker 9 (18:39):
So I think when it comes to the football piece,
this guy is extremely hard working.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Uh he's gonna be you know, I don't know if.
Speaker 9 (18:47):
He's gonna be the first one because I don't want
to slight the Seahawks organization, the players staff, but he's
gonna be one of the first people in the facility
every morning, and he's gonna pour everything into it every day.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
I think a lot of it.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
Is is he just has this mindset that he's not
there yet, he's not arrived. I think that's the way
it will be until the last day he plays, you know,
his his final game or downs of football. It's just
a growth mindset that's very you know, very fun to
be around. And I think you know, from from the
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from a standpoint of getting picked in the third round
where he was at, I think, you know, if you're
a Seahawks fan, you're you're thinking that that's a really
really good value for where you got him, because you know,
I think, you know, you could even argue you could
a gun higher and.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
You just still felt that way.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
The last thing I'll just say, and the reason why
I feel that strong about him is I think he's
got a pronounced strength that is just crazy strong you
know everyone's got. When you're a top pick, first round,
second round, third round, you know, usually you have something
that is like what I prefer to with Jalen as
a superpower, and the guy can do things with his
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feet running the football that you know are unlike all
most quarterbacks and many tailbacks. And so that's something you know,
I know, you get a guy like that in your
organization to utilize, and I'm sure that there's a reason
why they have him, and I'm sure he'll get on
the football field this ball.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Caitlyn Wor, Alabama head coach joining us.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Great to hear your voice again, coach, And you know
you got him more out of him rushing the ball
around the goal line last year than he did the
prior year. He went from twelve rushing touchdowns to twenty
with you, So, how would you expect him to be
used year one, knowing what kind of a weapon on
the ground he is.
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Yeah, I think, yeah, I think there's packages you can
probably use him in. And again I anticipate that that's
probably a part of why they felt good about bringing
him in. I think it's a perfect situation to have
a quarterback you know that is probably the starter there
and Jally get a chance to kind of see it
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from a different perspective when you're in the fire like
he has been in the last two years. Uh. And
there was a you know some time two years ago
where uh, he got pulled away from.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
It and then got put back in it.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
But you know, he was so much into the day
to day uh and competing for the spot and competing
week to week for us, I think there's a piece
where yeah, he'll be he'll be in the competition for
for the job, and that's the way he'll look at
it and take advantage of every rep. But I also
know that it's be good for him to have that perspective,
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I mean, and not not to get it because every
everyone always wants to compare, you know, Michael Pennix. But
you think it was really good for Michael to have
some games to sit back and kind of see it
and feel it and then you know, take advantage of
his opportunity when it came up.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Well, Cayln de boris with us, we're talking about Jalen Milroll. Well,
well we'll get to the tight end oots in just
a second. But obviously, Kaylen, a lot of the conversation
has been about Jalen, obviously with the Seahawk draft and look, man,
I'll be honest with you. Some of the games I
watched last year, I saw a guy that really struggled
with accuracy, especially in these short and intermediate routes. Some
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of the Oklahoma games stands out, the Michigan game stands out.
So two things. You know that an NFL quarterback has
got to have his accuracy in anticipation. Tell me about
why you think he struggled late down the stretch last
year and how much of that at this level you
think can be fixed.
Speaker 9 (22:30):
Yeah, I think there's a lot of things that can
can be can he can work on to improve? You know,
really there was the three games you mentioned, two of them.
Three of those games were the ones we lost, you know,
Tennessee and you know, Michigan at the end and in Oklahoma,
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and you can you can point to things in each
of those games that I guess you could justify. But
I think in the end, it's like you said, there's
areas where he can continue to improve. And you know,
I think again that perspective and maybe even some things
where you know, a pro style offense adding that to
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his game where you know, we put him in the
gun a lot and wanted him to always be a
threat whether he was keeping it or you know the
threat of keeping it.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
In a lot of the red game.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
We just felt like with where our team was at,
we needed that threat to always be there, and I
think it's a pocket movement and things like that where
he gets out in space and you know, adding the
under center stuff.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
He does throw the ball, like you said, down.
Speaker 9 (23:35):
The field extremely well, and you know, to me that
would be the probably the harder part. And he was
extremely accurate two years ago and he did a pretty
good job again for us last year. So I think
some of those progressions and things like that that you know,
take timing, and you know, we really we had just
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a couple of receivers that you you know, were consistent,
you know, we can and weak out for him, and
sometimes those guys maybe were in and out of practices,
especially as the season went on. So there's a lot
of things again that I can say justify, but in
the end, he knows, he knows he just needs to
continue to improve and he's looking for He's the guy
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that's up to the challenge and he can handle the
heat and he will always put it on himself like
you'd want any leader a quarterback to do, and maybe
even almost to a fault, you know, sometimes he puts
so much on him to where everyone kind of always
looks at it as his fault. You know, and so
you're gonna love this guy. He's he's what a leader exudes,
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and you know he's gonna come in and smile on
his face and great work ethic and improve in all
those areas that I think, you know, you felt maybe
he's a little short on.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Well, we talked about how many more rushing touchdowns he
had with you than than the prior year, but in passing,
you know, he had a twenty three touchdown six interception
season in twenty twenty three. So when you came in,
I mean my expectation was, my god, I mean, this
guy's gonna absolutely blow up.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
With Ki in the boar as as his head coach.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
So maybe talk about some of the reasons that the
numbers had a little drop and maybe something you would
have done differently had you had another year with Jalen.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
Yeah, I think the depth of our receiving corps will
be something that naturally this year continues to help out
the quarterback position. And you know, I think that there.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
Was probably a little more continuity.
Speaker 9 (25:24):
And he had been around some of those guys and
you know it's gonna it was a new system, so
there's new verbiage and there's uh kind of a teaching
and I know they had different coordinators even when he
was younger. So uh, you know, there's there's a lot
of stuff that's been thrown on his plate, and I
think what will be really nice is for him to
have some continuity consistency again, where a year after year
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after year, hopefully you have a lot of the same
verbage and you know, the same receivers, you know. So
I think that would have helped him out. You know,
coming back this year with our top two guys, you
guys know, Jeremy Bernard and then Ryan Williams. I mean,
those two guys coming back, they were brand new, you know,
not just to Alabama but to him, and and you
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know he had to learn those guys, and there's just
a lot of moving parts, especially in the first year,
and he's you know, front and center, being the quarterback
and having to orchestrate all that.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Well, Calen de Bores was with us.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
There was a report out from an anonymous scout I
think it was a lot of anonymous quotes this time
of the year, calon As you know, that said that
if Jalen Milroe had gone back to Alabama, they heard
a lot of skilled players would have transferred you you
stuck with him last year, and I'm wondering would you
have sensed that that that would have been a problem
if he would have come back to be your quarterback
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again next year inside that locker room.
Speaker 9 (26:45):
Well, I mean, I think I've heard I heard that
same quote, and I think the word all was used,
and so whenever absolutes are used like that, I kind
of questioned it right there, like the words never and always, uh,
you know all. I mean, I think I think that's
a little far fetched. I don't think we would have
lost all of our receivers for anything, but I will
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also say that there were guys that left we I mean,
we had six receivers transfer out just on this last
year's team already, you know, and there's reasons for that,
you know. So who you're hearing that from or what's happening,
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
That's really not a concern of mine.
Speaker 9 (27:25):
And I know that Jalen is a guy that really
works hard to unite people, and so from a personality standpoint,
I don't really question that. And you know, just from
a continuity, I mean year one to year two, the.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Guy you're gonna see he can throw the ball.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
You know, we talked about the deep ball, and I
think a lot of it's just being comfortable and that timing,
and you know, I think there's a piece where we
can continue to improve.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
We could have continued to prove the.
Speaker 9 (27:55):
Consistency of the pocket and continue to develop a little
bit that movement and things. You know, that's year one
to year two progression, just like we did there with Michael.
We progress from year one to year two. People start
seeing you do certain things over and over, and you know,
as you expand and go on the tangents of the
offense and grow it, pocket movement and that kind of.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
Stuff is all a part of that.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
But you know, there's pocket awareness, there's protection, there's receivers
on time. There's a lot of pieces of that all
come into play. So yeah, I think we're talking absolutes
like that. It's a little little far fretched, far fetch
to say, and I guess not really concern of mine
right now.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Kaylen, real quick one more from me on Milroe and
Caylen de bores with us. We're gonna get your thoughts
on the tight end. The Seahawks got as well in
Hoots in a minute but look, obviously being the quarterback
at Alabama, you know this from being the head coach,
there's some pressure that comes along with that gig for
certain right. I mean, there may not be a quarterback
in college football that's under more scrutiny than the guy
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that's playing quarterback for the Albema Crimson Tide. And there
was criticism of him last year, and we heard of
that here in Seattle. You know that there was criticism.
How did he handle that behind the scenes, because playing
in the NFL there's gonna be a lot of that
here as well. How did he handle being the Alabemic
quarterback and the positives and negatives that come along with
that job.
Speaker 9 (29:15):
Yeah, I mean that's that's kind of you know what
I was saying before too, Just the guy's gonna shoulder
the blame. He's going to own it, you know, And
that's I think, you know, something that was really heavy
on him here because any loss, you know, head coach,
offensive coordinator, quarterback, I mean you go right and down
the line and then take it on another level, you know,
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uh here with the quarterback position and the successful quarterbacks
that have that have come through you know, the program,
and you know the expectation for every quarterback to be there.
And again there's some growing pains that you guys have
hit on that that we experienced, and you know he's
he just took it, always just and kept using his motivation,
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kept going back to work. And you know, like I said,
he's one of the first guys to show up and.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
He never wavered from that.
Speaker 9 (30:07):
He never wavered from you know, coming with a positive attitude,
having a smile in his face, some good energy. So
you know, he's been through that fire, and I mean,
you know there's gonna be more fires he's gonna.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Have to go through at the pro level too.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
Well.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Coach, a lot of those rushing touchdowns he got was
because number forty five was head hunting linebackers and ends
out there.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Tell us what the Seahawks got in your tight end.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Robbie Oots, Well.
Speaker 9 (30:31):
You can about imagine what it's gonna sound like when
when he makes a big block or makes a catch.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
I mean you can hear what the crowd's staying with
the big Oots.
Speaker 9 (30:38):
You know, That's that's one of the things. The guy
was a fan favorite. I think he had less than
ten catches and he had eight catches for us a
couple of touchdowns, but everyone just really knew who he was.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
He's you know, probably more of a full back than
a tight end in our offense.
Speaker 9 (30:56):
You know, he got to play a little bit of
both different roles and things, and you know, I don't
know what he's listed at, but you know, you're talking
probably two hundred and eighty pounds of you know, just
guy that the guy that's got the mindset. He will
stick his helmet right between your breastplate and just you know,
hitch his heart as he can't every play, and great
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on special teams. So I mean, he's smart, he's trustworthy,
he's he's a fun.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Guy to be around. He's really quiet, just you know,
goes about his work. So I'm a huge I'm a
huge Robbie Ootz fan.
Speaker 9 (31:32):
And I say that because a lot of people really
don't know who he is, and so I'm excited for
him and this opportunity.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Hey, listen, thanks for doing this.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I appreciate it, and I'm sure there'll be more reason
to have you one down the road talking about Alabama football.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
So thanks again and best of Lark. Thanks coach.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
Yeah, I appreciate, appreciate you guys. Thanks for having me
on you bet.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Caitlin Debor with us on the radio show. Wow, lots
of unpack there. I'll do that next on ninety three
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Speaker 9 (32:11):
He does throw the ball, like you said, down the
field extremely well, and he was extremely accurate two years
ago and he did a pretty good job again for
us last year.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
So he's the guy.
Speaker 9 (32:21):
That's up to the challenge and he can handle the
heat and he will always put it on himself like
you'd want any leader a quarterback to do.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
That is the voice of Cavin de Boor, who was
with us last segment talking about Jalen Milroll a little
bit on Robbie Oots as well, the tight end the
Seahawks got from Alabama.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
In what round was he drafted? Is he a seventh
round guy? Fifth round seventy five overall?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
So I don't know what you guys stick out there
in radio land, but the Jalen Milroe selection to me
has been the most talked about and most pole the
rising pick of this draft for the Seahawks, and it's
not even close right polarizing.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I mean I have not, honestly, I have not read
a lot of people that at that pick hated it.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I have read way more people that loved it at
that Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Well, I guess I got more negative mentions in my
feed than you do. I put a poll out there
on Twitter today or on X as the kids like
to say, asking people kind of what they think this
dude's going to become, right when it's all said and done,
like you know, three to five whatever years from now,
what do you think? Thirty seven percent said he'll be
a top half starting quarterback in the NFL, which is wow.
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Fourteen bottom half starting quarterback eighteen percent. Career backup thirty
one percent said Taysom Hill type. Now, to be fair,
I never gave you the complete bust. He's out of
the league in a year option that was not on there.
But there's a lot of responses to it and just
the text line, you know, talking about how this guy
can't throw the ball. I mean, I think even zerline
was on the year with last last week, So I'm
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not seeing it with him as a passer. Now, if
you're talking about drafting him as an athlete, right, like,
there's this whole thing in recruiting now in the last
like ten to fifteen years, a new phenomenon where there's
the athlete designation. If you're talking about doing something like
that with the guy, then I totally get it. But
I don't think the Seahawks drafted Jalen Milroe and look
at him as a successor to Sam Darnold in two
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or three years from now. I think they look at
him as a guy that can be a playmaker and
a toy for them starting in September.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I think they potentially look at and his both right,
And they're certainly not ruling out that that first situation
that you just talked about, but they definitely see him
as the second situation that you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
And we've got dueling polls, right, dueling Jalen.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
But let me just go back to that for a second,
because when you say they're not well, I mean, look,
of course they're not ruling anything out. Nobody's gonna come
up and say, well, he's never gonna be our starting quarterball.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I think if you drafted I don't fact that's what the.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Seahawks' vision for him is long term. I don't believe
that's their vision for him. I don't believe that because again,
unless they think they can fix it. And we'll talk
to you about this next segment at four o'clock, how
much of his problems as a pastor can be fixed
while he's in the NFL. We had this conversation last week.
Jackson was a part of it with Jalen Hurts. Jalen
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Hurts went from Alabama to Oklahoma and fixed enough issues
that made him a second round draft pick in the
National Football.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Yeah, and there's been a lot of quarterbacks like that,
and guess what, none of those quarterbacks had the athleticism
that the Jylen Milroll has.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
But guys, yeah, sorry, really quick, because it just came out.
Either way, whether he's going to be the guy you
like Taysom Hill or a starter, he will be playing
quarterback behind Charles Cross because Charles Cross, He's just had
this fifty year option exercised by the Seattle Seahawks that
according to Ian Rappaport.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Why were they so weird about that?
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Good question. Every time the Schnyder was actually like, I
don't know, okay, talk about it.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Well, maybe they're trying to work out a long term deal,
and they they at this point haven't worked out a
long term deal, So like, all right, we'll just plan
his fifth.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
And why not just say that? Why don't just say yeah?
I mean, you know, he's a big part of our future.
We'd love to have the guy a long term and
we're working on a few things. But it was almost
like they just wanted the whole conversation to end.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
It was just odd. Anyway, go back to your point.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
No, they I just said, well, Jalen Milroe get a
second contract with the Seahawks, not a second contract in
the NFL, because I think everybody he's gonna get a
second contract in the NFL because somebody's gonna take a
shot at that athlete in three years, right, I mean,
that's that's gonna happen. But will he get one with
the Seahawks? Sixty seven percent said yes, Yeah, thirty three
percent said no. Which what do we think he is?
Do we think he is the successor to Sam Donald?
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Do we think that in two or three years from now,
like Jordan Love and like Aaron Rodgers, that he steps
in in two thousand and twenty seven, maybe twenty eight, whatever,
one of those years that Jalen Milroe is going to
be the starting quarterback for your Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
I do, I absolutely do. I think he learns that
to throw better underneath these guys. And a few years
from now, when Sam Donald is you know, does on
the route of Gino Smith or just you know done,
I think we're looking at Jalen Millill being the starting
quarterback in twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
I mean I think there's a I don't know what
the percentage is.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
I mean, if if I'd had to bet the house
on it which way it would I bet.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
I think it's.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Pretty close to fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
I really do, because because I don't think the Seahawks
are gonna be in a position to draft that next
guy to Sam Darnold, right, I mean, this is gonna
be your shot. You're gonna win ten. You should win
with this roster. You should win ten, eleven, twelve games
every single year for the next three years. You're not
gonna be drafted with an opportunity to take a quarterback
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in the top ten.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
There's a lot that you both just said that I
disagree with Unfortunately we're up against the clock and we
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