April 30, 2025 • 37 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Hugh Millen chat with Larry Stone about an M’s series win, their offense on-fire, and Jorge Polanco, then the guys discuss a death from a golf cart crash, Bill Belichick’s CBS interview and girlfriend plus hear from Dan Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for our weekly conversation with legendary sports writer
Larry Stone, brought to you by the RAM Restaurant and Brewery, Bigger,
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There's a Ram there you now with Softy and Dick,
here's Larry Stone.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
All right, big thanks to the RAM for sponsoring this
shin dig every single Wednesday at five o'clock on the
radio show. And I know about you, Hughey, but it's
so much more fun when the Mariners are winning. It's
amazingly more fun.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Indeed it is. I know a guy that agrees with that.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Our friend Larry Stone with us on the radio show
courtesy of the RAM.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
How are you pal?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
I'm doing good. How are you guys doing?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
We're good? We're good.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So why don't we just start at the top of
the mountain and work our way down? Jerry Depoto about
a month and a half ago.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Offensive team? Is he right? Do the Mariners have a
good offensive team?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Larry?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
We're a month's in. Are you ready to proclaim that
the Mariners.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Good offensive team? Have a good offensive team.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Well, I look at the lineup softy, and it shouldn't
be the case. They had three guys who started the
year in Tacoma and pat e seventh, eighth, and ninth tonight.
But you look at the stats in their top ten
and virtually every important category in top five in some
of them. So they're performing like a good offensive team,
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and I guess that makes them a good offensive team.
I really think that whatever clicked last year when Edgar
took over at the same time that Dan Wilson took over,
has carried over to this year. And there's a definite
change in approach. They're not striking out as much, they're
walking a lot more, they're putting the ball in play,
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and it's paying off. I mean, they look like a
really good offensive team. And until I see otherwise, I
mean there are you could see definite warning signs, the
guys who are playing way over their head and the like.
But I think they're going to be better than we
ever thought they would be.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
ALT say that, well, we've been having fun with the question,
all right, are you buying this offense?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
So I'm going to present it to you like this.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
You know, the kp out of never know why they
didn't call it CP, but KP is closest to the PIN.
So if I had to say to you, Larry Stone,
at the end of the year, out of thirty teams
you have to hit, you have to guess exactly where
they will rank the Mariners offense and run scored, your
answer would be what.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I'll say about twelve, okay, which you know, if the
pitching had stayed intact, that would have been more than
enough to a division title team. But now they've lost
sixty percent of their starting pitching and you know Bryce
Miller who knows. So I think they need that. They
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have to be that kind of offense to get where
they want to go.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, they were twenty first a year ago and run scored.
Now they're on pace for eight hundred and twenty one runs,
which Larry would have put them third year ago. So
even going from twenty first to twelfth, there is a
massive jump. And I mean, let's be honest, Kyle Roley's
doing his thing. We're still kind of waiting for Julio
to get going. JP has been pretty damn good, good
bounce back for him so far, I think from last year.
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But the story of the year, and maybe the story
in the American League is Hora Polanco. I mean, this
is just unbelievable what this guy is doing. So three
ninety four with a twelve ninety four ops against Righty's
why don't you just take the floor and take a
few minutes to talk about your thoughts on what we're
seeing from Horey Polanco.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah, first, let me just say one thing. JP Crawford's
doing more than pretty good. He's got He's rocking a
four to twenty three on these percentage is absolutely sensational.
I mean, he's he's he's without Polanco, he's their most
valuable offensive player, I think. But yeah, I think you
had asked me on the very first show who my
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breakout candidate was, and I said, Jorge Polonko. The David
foot season started, and then he hit a home run
on opening day, and I think I texted you and
said and gloated a little bit. But yeah, but time out.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
A second time out because you picked a guy that
was freaking terrible a year ago. There's only one way
for him to go, and that was up, Larry. That's
kind of cheating, don't you think.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Do you think anybody expected him to be anything but
terrible again this year.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'm on your side, Larry.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
I'm with you, Larry. You can gloat a little bit premature.
It might be premature, but you can glow for now.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yeah for now. Well, opening Day was definitely premature. But
I mean he's healthy now. He's actually not, which is
kind of weird. But I don't think he's as bad
off as he was last year. You know, he's been
a good player throughout his career. Last year was the aberration.
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I think people forget that that he was an All
Star type guy. He had a thirty three homer season,
he had a five one hundred plus slugging season, regularly
slugged above four fifty. So this was a good player
who we got the worst here in Seattle last year.
And I you know, now we're seeing the kind of
player he could be. And I think you know Edgar
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and Kevin Seitzer got his hands on him and changed
his approach, his stance. He's far less open stands than
he had last year, which he says has been the difference.
I know you've been debating about whether he should but
just you know, play against left handed pitchers because it
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can't for now bat right handed. I don't think so.
I think you just you don't mess with it. I
think he's going to be back getting right handed soon enough.
I wouldn't mess with what he's got going on right now.
I think he can. So far, they've been able to
get by without, you know, with him sitting against the
rare occasions they face a left handed starter. So I
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just think we're seeing a closer version of what poor
hey Polanco really is.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
There's someone with this.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Let's stay there because I'm intrigued by by your thoughts
about this, this stance with the left handedness. Uh so
he so he doesn't have pain? Is if when he's
hitting left handed, does he ever earn the right to say, hey,
let's try and and have you go against a lefty?
Does he want that? Does he say, hey, I don't
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want to go against lefties. I don't want to hurt
my stats, Like, like, how does this play out? How
should this play out? You're saying, just wait until he's
healthy enough to hit from the other side of the plate,
But does he ever earn the right to to maybe.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Go against a lefty?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
You know, I think if he's convicted that he wants
to do it. I think he has earned the right.
But being that I am retired and no longer i'm
going to the park to check on things like that,
I can't definitively tell you what the talk has been
and what he's been his stance on that has been,
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but the fact that he hasn't done it leaves me
to believe that he's okay with not. I think, you know,
you've spent your whole life looking at a pitch from
a certain angle, you know, never having to face the
same handed pitcher because you're a switch hitter. I would
just be afraid that if suddenly he is standing up
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there left handed against a left handed pitcher, an orientation
that he's not used to, I think it could mess
up his mechanics and what he's got going on right now.
You know, I know there are some switch hitters who
give up switch hitting, but he's made a career out
of it, and I don't think it makes sense to me.
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According to Daniel Kramer, who I just he had a
note yesterday that he started taking batting practice right handed,
which leaves me to believe that it's not that far
off until he's go back into a game right handed.
So I would I would just ride the hot hand
and just play him against the right handed starters.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, no, I get it.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You know, look, I mean I looked it up and
I was actually not, I guess shocked, but I'm slightly
surprised that the guy has had over four thousand plate
appearances in his career, Larry, only one of them has
come as a lefty versus a lefty, and only one
other has come as a righty versus a righty. So
he has been on the opposite side of the plate
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every single back for the most part of his major
league career. So I totally get that. But let me
throw something just stupid at you. And this will sound
stupid because of where we were when they resigned the guy.
And again, you know, my take was, hey, look, you
want to bring him back, bring him back, but he
cannot be your biggest free agent ticket that you signed
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over the offseason. They had to do more. That was
my attitude. You want to bring him back and get Alonzo,
You want to bring him back and get Kyle Tucker
and get Bregman. Okay, great, but what ticked me off
is that this was their biggest investment over the offseason.
At seven point five million dollars. The third base thing
is now officially over. That was a joke when it started.
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The guy can't play third, and he's never going to
play third because Williamson's that guy now. But this is
a month in he's raking the ball. He's a free
agent when the year's over. How long does this have
to continue before the Mariners approach this guy about bringing
him back for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Well, I don't think there's any urgency to do that.
Maybe the All Star break something like that. I think
it's it's too early to lock them up, you know,
considering his health history and everything. Let's you know, I'm
sure their stances. Let's see where this goes. But I
agree with your main point there that that should not
have been their main addition. And you look at the
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first baseman now are hitting with even with Solano getting
four hits in his last three games, maybe starting to
break out of the season long slump, but their first
basement are hitting a accumulative one with a two twenty
seven on base percentage and a two ninety three slugging percentage,
which is abysmal for an offensive position. I mean that,
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you know, the corners were just crying out for them
to get a legitimate bat. Now everyone wanted Justin Turner
or Carlos Santana. I look them up today and they're
they're pretty bad. Turner has basically got the same numbers
as done of Van Solano, and Santana is a little
bit better, but his OPS is under six hundreds. So
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you know, people were disappointed they didn't get those guys,
but that might have not been the answer anyway. But
so you know, I don't think Alonso was ever a
legitimate possibility, but I think we all would have liked
them to see them at least make a run at it,
or Christian Walker or somebody like that. But I don't
think they, in their wildest imagination they thought that Jorge
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Polanco was going to do what he's been doing. I
think that's just a stroke of luck for them. But
then now you know they're going to have to address
the first pace situation. Then they've got Tyler Locklear at
Takomans who's hitting sweet thirty for the Rainiers with the
ops over nine hundred. So I think it's about time
to give him a look too, and maybe maybe he
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could give him a jolt like Williamson did when he
came up.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, Larry Stone with us courtesy of the RAM And
I actually didn't realize this because they spend so much
time talking about routing. Talas was a free agent for
six months and there's a reason why he was sitting
out there. You realize he's had a negative war in
four of his last five years in Major League baseball,
and now he's your starting first basement. So, I mean, honestly,
how much longer does the rowdy Tells experiment last?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
You think, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I I mean,
he had those huge hits in Toronto, though you know
they had homered in each game. He hit that grand
Slam that won that game, looked like he you know,
that showed what the potential for him is. But we
have haven't seen much of that. I haven't seen hardly
anything from Solano. I would expect almost any time now
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to see Locklear, especially since he's just tearing up the
Pacific Coach League. It just makes sense. You can't have
a first base position that's as unproductive as this one
has been for a team that has designs on winning
the division.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Larry Stone with US Larry finished this sentence.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
So I'm loving what the Manners are doing thirty games
into it, but I'm non at my fingernails because I'm
concerned about you just said at first base. I'm concerned
about first base and what's.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Finish.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Yeah, that's an easy one, Hugh. I never thought i'd
be saying this. But the starting pitching, uh, you know everybody, Yeah,
I mean Kirby is out. Uh, you know, they expect
him back soon. But until he's back, you know, he
hasn't even thrown a pitch other than a simulated game
in two months. Who knows what's going to happen when
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he gets on the mound and pitches for real, which
he's going to probably do real soon in Tacoma, Logan Gilbert.
Everyone's you know, pretty optimistic about the initial results of
the MRI, but for you know, you hear the word
words forearm, stiffness, you get very, very concerned. And so
I don't think. I don't think he's out of the woods,
and we probably won't see him for at least a month,
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even under the best of circumstances. Bryceon Miller has complained
of soreness recently. Last start. You know, he gutted his
way through five shoutout innings, but he was not sharp
at all. He hasn't been sharp all year, and you know,
I think there's some concern there too. So that's sixty
percent of rotation. Uh. You know, we all assume that
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at the trade deadline they would have to add a bat,
but you know, I think there's a scenario where they
may have to add a starting pitcher. The two kids
have done real well, Logan Evans and and Hancock. You
know you had that stat about five and two in
the games they started. That was after starting off oh
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and tow the first two. You know, Hancock got ripped
and then the other Testillo didn't do well his first start,
but then they won every game since. So you know,
did you just wonder how long that's going to keep up.
I think I think Hancock's are very capable rotation fill in.
I don't know about Evans yet. He could be if
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they if they pitch well, that will mitigate what I
just said. But I just having that from from being
that dominant starting rotation where you felt good every day,
I just have concerns about that being the case this year.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
So you're telling me that They got lucky with the
injury factor with the rotation last year, and we should
not count on that happening again this year. Okay, yeah,
you're right, because it's not happening again. I mean, this
is so ridiculous. This is exactly what we talked about
over the offseason. They can't count on these guys staying
healthy as a fivesome the way they did a year ago.
And it started before the season even began because Kirby
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hit the IL and now Logan Gilbert is banged up
and Bryce Miller's got some back issues, so that is frustrating.
But hey, they're getting carried by their offense, man, which
you were hoping to see and now you're seeing it.
But Larry Stone with us and Larry before you go,
I don't know how much of the NFL Draft you
watched over the weekend. You can put your old Times
columnists hat on here for a second. The story was
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obviously Shador Sanders. It's amazing how Colorado and Dion and
Schadur were a major talking point throughout the college football season,
and they were the biggest talking point over the weekend
with the draft. What did you make of the reaction
to the reaction to the reaction of Shador Sanders falling
to the fifth round, some people saying there was racism involved.
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There's this major delta between what this person sees on
tape and what that person sees on tape with Shador.
What'd you make of that whole storyline over the weekend?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Then, Yeah, it was fascinating to see it unfold and
kind of horrifying in the same way I felt, you know,
I couldn't help but feel sorry for him, as I
know he brought a lot of it on himself, but
to see somebody drop that precipitously, you know, there there
was a little bit of empathy there. But you know,
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I think it's you know, there's so many theories, as
as you said, but I just think it's the case
of him not being as highly rated, being rated as
the first round quarterback, and then not wanting the hassle
that comes with the whole Sanders family, you know, in
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a backup quarterback, and I think that pushed him down.
And then you hear how he came off in his
interviews and pro days and all that, you know, didn't
comport himself that well and turned a lot of teams
off and you put all that together, and I think
teams just didn't want to mess with the spectacle, and
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and so you just saw him drop and drop and drop.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Larry great stuff. Always appreciate this. Thanks for doing it.
And we're talking a week my friend.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
All right, thanks guys, look at Larry.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Stone with us on the radio show. Man, we're got
a break.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
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Speaker 2 (17:59):
Alright, thanks to Larry Stone for joining the radio show.
It's amazing how much funner the shows are and how
much better our lives are when the Mariners are playing
decent baseball. Man, And it's one of my favorite things
to do is just dive into baseball reference dot Com,
pour over numbers, pour over stats. You really can't do that,
or don't do that as much in other sports, I
think because baseball is so numbers driven Like dude, last night,
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couldn't sleep. One o'clock in the morning, I'm up a
Baseball Reference dot Com looking at Hore Polanco's career splits.
I think I put a tweet out at like one am.
By the way, on that, so you don't trust me
check it. That's how dedicated I am to this craft. Here, baby,
there's a story, by the way, Hughey developing. It's not developing,
it's already obviously come and gone, but involving a former
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teammate of yours in Denver, John Elway, who I still
contend was one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time
that never gets his due. Man, that guy had a
freaking hotwitzer for an arm, unbelievable, but not enough people
talk about him.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I don't know if you know that name or not.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Longtime friend, business partner, and former agent of John Elway.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Have you heard this?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
By the way, Jackson died today from injuries suffered when
he fell off a golf cart reportedly being driven by
John Elway. This happened in Riverside County in California. The
coroner confirmed the death was injured Saturday night in Lakinta
down there in the Palm Springs Palm Desert area, obviously,
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and was declared dead early Wednesday at a Palm Springs hospital.
According to TMZ, Elway was driving the cart when Spurback
fell off and hit his head on the asphalt I
assume on the cart path or a parking lot. Spurbeck
had been sitting in the passenger seat. TMZ also reported
he was on life support following the fall. So this
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is a pretty decent sized story involving one of the
greatest players to ever play in the NFL. I'm not
sitting here trying to throw Acus nations at anybody, But
if John Elway was driving the golf cart and this
guy fell out and hit his head and died, he's
gonna have to answer some questions.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Obviously.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Yeah, there's there's some potential, real problems for John Elway,
I would think. And I really like John. His nickname
was Woody with the team. Nobody called him John.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
He's Woody. He's a really good guy. We caught horse face,
by the way, just so you know, I'm aware of that.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
And by the way, it's his it's sports agent is
his football contract agent was always Marvin dem Off.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Your agency.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Right, yeah, yeah, But so here here's where I think
the problem is. You got concerns criminally for Elway and
civilly and in terms of we don't know a lot
of things, right, there's a lot of questions that aren't answered,
like was there any blood drawn? Was there any evidence
that he was driving negligently? What did he say? Were
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their witnesses? Right in the civil manner, Remember, the burden
of proof in a civil manner is is merely preposterous?
Uh of the evidence? Was it more likely or not
that he caused a death? And that so that even
though there's a different burden of proof that the guilt
in that there's an assumption of risk that's associated with
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that standard that is not in the criminal arena. And
meaning this guy would know that he's been drinking, and
I'm hypothesizing I don't know that always been drinking at all.
So I'm not asserting that. I'm just making speculations, making
inferences that may be unwarranted. But these are the type
of questions that would need to be answered. But if
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there was certain risks like that, including drinking, then he
the victim, would have an assumption of risk that does
not occur again in the criminal arena, and the burden
of proof for criminal of course beyond a reasonable doubt.
Now would they have a pursuit and would there be
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a case? I think if there was blood drawn, and
I'm not saying that there wasn't, this could be a
real sticky legal situation for John Elway. You know, this could,
this could It's not above the possibility that he could
be found guilty of vehicular homicide. Again, a lot of questions.
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We don't know the answers to. You just make fair
instances as a guy reading a report. But these are
some of the questions that come to me.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I've shared a lot of nasty crashes in golf carts
by the way, by the way, Hughey, and most of
them were alcohol driven, to be totally honest with you.
So it is a lesson for a lot of people
out there. Man, no question, if you're out with the
guys or gals playing golf, holy moldy. So we'll see
what happens with this. The other the other story today
involving the NFL that has nothing to do with the NFL,
but it's Bill Belichick who was associated with the NFL.
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Now the head coach at North Carolina. There was a
interview with CBS News where he was discussing his book,
and Belichick, for those that don't know, is seventy three
years old. He's got a girlfriend, is it Jennifer or
Jordan Hudson? Jordan Hudson, and she's twenty four years old,
so she's pretty much fifty years younger than Belichick. And
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a lot of people, including Petros on today, I've talked
about how creepy that is. It's odd, it's weird, whatever,
blah blah blah. There's a portion of the interview where
he was asked by the interviewer how he met Hudson,
and there's a video of Hudson stepping in saying we're
not talking about that and cut off. The interview, drew
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national headlines, all that stuff, whatever, and Belichick has had
to come out now and say that it's a false narrator,
that his girlfriend was trying to control the interview with
CBS News. So I asked you off the air, and
I'll ask both of you guys on the air, why
should I care about this? Like, why should this even
be something on my radar? Is there any tangible reason
as a sports fan, or even as a fan of
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just the entertainment world, where I should even care about
this interview with Bill Belichick that was apparently cut off
by his girlfriend when the topic of how they met
came up.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Yeah, I think it's a story because, first of all,
you're talking about a figure in Bilichick that has been
called the greatest coach in the in the most popular
sport in America. Now, I don't agree with that. His
win percentage without Tom Brady was four fifty one. That's
good enough for one hundred and thirty sixth place of
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all coaches. His win percentage with Tom Brady seven seventy four.
That's good enough for second all time. Only Guy Chamberlain,
who coached in the nineteen twenties is above him. So
to you, I think, what was Vince Lombard's without Bart Starr?
You know, I don't know. I mean he with the Redskins.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Wasn't it terrible? What's terrible?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I I just I bring that up because I think that,
don't most great coaches have great players around them when
they win games.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Well, I mean when you look at his career, he
was at Buffalo Cleveland and then what he did after
Brady Left put it this way, I think Nick Saban
is significantly a better coach that's fair than a Beligic.
But that's just one But the getting back to this,
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So why I think it's a story. I think it's
come almost like a People magazine cover People Magazine story,
because you do anytime if you walk into home depot
and you see a seventy three year old with a
twenty four year old, first of all, you're gonna think
she's his daughter or granddaughter. If it becomes clear to
you that they're actually a romantic item, the first thing
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I thought it is going to come to you is
what how much money does he have? What kind of
what is he doing for her? Right like, that's just
a natural response. My take is threefold. Jackson number one,
it's his business, More power to him. Number two, he
hasn't lost his mind. He has responded like most single,
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average looking, overweight seventy three year olds when they are
dating a twenty four I mean, good god, she's a
If she showed up on the arm of Drake May,
the twenty three year old starting quarterback, good looking guy,
you wouldn't blink an eye. You might say, well, you know,
he could do a little better. I mean her her
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uniforms better than her helmet, but I mean but when
compared to still Belichick. So I think he's doing what
most seventy three year sen year old single guys would
do if they had an opportunity to, of course date.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Is it more creepy from her perspective that it is
his perspective.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
I think there's a blurred line between girlfriend, right and
call girl?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Oh wow, wow, the call hookers.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Hugh careful, Well, I didn't want to use that term,
but okay, I mean now and and look, he kind
of looks like a fool's like, what do you have
in common?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Do you really think that she is into you? Now?
Speaker 6 (27:10):
This is not part of my vocabulary, but there's a
a word called gerontophilia, never heard of it, which which
Webster calls attraction to old people. I'm not even kidding you,
sex attraction toward old person. So maybe she has girontophelia that.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Today.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I think I had a case at gerontophelia when I
was in high school. By the way, holy Craft subtophyliac like, like,
I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I don't think she's a jernt.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Well, the president of Francis, his wife is seventy two
years old.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
And you know what, there been more power to him.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
But so how so time out of second time out?
Because this this brings up a big conversation because society
says that what Bill Bellach check and in some ways
what Emmanuel Macron, the president of France, who's forty seven
and his wife is seventy two. They find that creepy?
How how how much can we can we squeeze the
gap before it becomes acceptable?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
If he's twenty years older than her, is that okay?
Speaker 7 (28:16):
Half your age plus ten?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
If he's thirty, is that okay? Half half his age?
That's that's that's the rule. That's society.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
So if she is so forty five years old, she'd
have to be like forty five years old.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I mean, that's just to be accepted that.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
I want to go back to your your earlier question, Softy, because.
Speaker 8 (28:31):
I mean, on all of this points like love is
love whatever, I don't really care. But the base, the base,
the base question. The base question was why is this
a Storian? Should I care? Why should I care?
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I think this is the this is the.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
Best question to ask when we're talking about this stupid,
stupid topic.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
Okay, I'm not sure if you guys.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Well, I learned we learn where to gionta what's it
called again?
Speaker 6 (29:00):
That means that you can be a gronto. So I
think here's the thing. Do you guys' wives watch like
reality shows like Real house and stuff? So like, so
my wife watches like Real housewives shows, right, And I
feel like in this in the realm of like that
kind of you know, entertainment, Bravo, that kind of stuff TV.
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There's the mainstream sports topics, which for us would be
NBA playoffs going on right now, NFL Draft. It's the
mainstream stuff you're gonna pay attention. And then there's just
the really stupid stuff you don't pay attention to and
you just roll your eyes at.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
And that's like the Kardashians.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
For us, this is that it's this deserves absolutely none
of our time or interest or care at all. It's
just roll of the eyes. Get this stupidity off my
Twitter timeline because.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
It's you and you disagree.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Why is that you?
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Well, I would say, when she's walking out on a
North Carolina football field and interrupting football drills and she
has a business card, I don't know. It's something like
chief operating officer in North Carolin, like she.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Is that true? By the way, does she have a title?
I think it's cheap offering, operating off the officer.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Chief gegra genre, whatever the hell it is, operating I
lack old people.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
But but she has inserted herself that A reasonable question
is is is that impacting his ability to coach?
Speaker 7 (30:32):
As sourcing on her interrupting a practice?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
What can I ask you?
Speaker 7 (30:38):
You're sourcing on her interrupting?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
There there's a video. There's a video on Twitter. Yeah,
there's a video. There's a video of her literally Jackson
walking onto a field. I'm watching you right now in
North Carolina. Yeah, I've seen the video. I don't know
if I called the video. You're watching it right now.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I don't know this, okay, but just time out of second.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
How many wives or wags would ever even be on
the field period, per right?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Like, I mean, we've seen a lot.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Of wives that like to watch practice from the sideline
that happens in the stands. I don't ever remember one
of them walking being on the actual playing surface when
there's drills happening on the same field, sir. From that perspective.
Hugh is correct, interrupting, Well, the question is does she
have more power over North Carolina football than we think
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she does? And how does that land for you if
you're a UNC football fan. Well, she's got the testicles
of the head coach in her curse. That's pretty obvious.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I forget a break.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
We're gonna hear a little bit from Dan Wilson coming
up after today's Mariner When next on ninety three to
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Speaker 5 (31:44):
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Speaker 2 (32:00):
We're back Mike Florio coming up six pm hour on
the radio program Humiling In for Dick Fane Today off
the rest of the week and through next week.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yes, it's true, Yeah, this man has.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
We'll be at you up for the spring game on Friday,
by the way back of the Emeral Queen on Monday.
Softy Hugh Jackson hanging out with you until seven o'clock tonight.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Here he is.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
You know, the Mariner's got to win today nine to
three over the Angels. Dan Wilson, Mariner manager, reacting to
today's offensive explosion, A.
Speaker 9 (32:28):
Really good way to cap the home stand here, you know,
another just a really good ball game all up and
down around when you look at offensively, defensively on the mound,
you know a lot of great stuff today. You know,
I thought Emerson pitched very very well. He gave up
ten hits, but you know a lot of broken bats,
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you know, nothing that was not a lot of them
hit hard, you know, singles, and able to get out
of a couple of tough, tough spots there early on.
I thought he threw the ball very very well. And
and you know it's a couple of back to back
outings that have been really strong for him, Randy early on,
you know, putting us on the board with the homer
and then uh taking a runaway from them with a
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with a great throw from left field was right on
the money, you know, big defensive play right there to
kind of keep the game where it was. Legs doing
a great job, you know, coming out of the bullpen
again and and uh, you know, getting out of a
tough spot there with with a couple of guys on
you know, and then Zarto and and Troy Taylor did
to finish it up. Those guys continued to throw the
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ball well. Uh and then you know the seventh inning
was was big getting on base to lead it off,
and then a great bunt by Simon to get his
first big league knock, which is you know, that's a
that's a big that's a big thing in anybody's life
and any player's life, and and to be able to
do that, and then you know the rest of the
offense took took over from there.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Jp with a big.
Speaker 9 (33:51):
Knock, Leo Revos with a big knock, Catchers getting a
couple of stolen bases today. You got to love to
see that. And so just you know, I'm afraid to
keep going because I'm afraid I'm gonna miss something. But
you know, just a great job all around, up and
down the lineup, offense, defense on the mound. A really
good way to end this home stand.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
Would you look at the most about how that rally
came together in the sudden.
Speaker 9 (34:16):
Really just you know where we were getting the contributions
from everybody, and you know, a couple of guys down
at the bottom to kind of set the table and
then you know, things kind of took off from there,
and you know, and then the guys at the top
continuing it. It's just, you know, when you've got that
kind of momentum, that that synergy going, it's it's something
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that you know, you can break open the game in
a situation like that, and we were able to do that,
and then you know, I thought Leo's at bat there
to get two more. I think if you get out
of that situation and you're the Angels, you feel pretty
good about only giving up four in that situation. But
Leo just putting together a really good at bat to
get a couple more h to kind of really break
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it open at that point. Just just some really good
at bats all the way through.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I gotta be totally honest with you, guys.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I'm listening to Dan Wilson talk the entire time thereafter
today's Mariner win. The boys are now eighteen and twelve,
they're on pace to win ninety seven games, and the
only thing I can think about the entire time that
Dan Wilson's talking is Bill Belichick's girlfriend really a hooker, because.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
You brought that up last segment.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
And then I see a report that Jordan Hudson within
days and weeks of after dating Bill Belichick amassed at
eight million dollar real estate fortune.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
So what's going on here? Man? How did see a
mass it and I have connected to Belichick? What are
you guess? Why did you take a guess? Man?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
You're the one that put that in my brain that
Bill Belichick's girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Actually might be a hooker.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
Well, I mean, like I said, it's a blurred line
between girlfriend because, oh dude, here's my supposition. No, I
don't think she's a torontophiliac. I don't think she's attracted
to him. I think that she you know, you know,
I'm net in her head. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm wrong,
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And and if evidence comes forward and it's to the contrary.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I'll change my mind.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
I go in with a raised eyebrow thinking what does
she stand to benefit from a relationship with Bill Belichick?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Well?
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Money and fame. Oh what a surprise, what a motivation? Right,
We've never heard that before? So yeah, I mean, I
I you saw pretty women?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
At what point? Did did Richard Julia Roberts? Yeah? I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
I doubt it's very appropriate for me to compare Bill
Belichick and this to Richard Gear that.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
None of this is appropriate.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I'll be the one to say, I'm sorry, man, the
Mariners one, we should be in rejoicing, embracing that fired
up for them.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
They're doing great, they're offenses kicking assen.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
You put that in my brain, you put that little
seed of thought in my brain, and I'm sorry. I
just cannot stop thinking about it that we got a
pretty woman type situation here, and look, if she's into
old dudes, she's into old dudes. I mean, what do
you what do you call somebody who's into blondes? What
do you call somebody who's into brunettes?
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I mean, good god, I mean yeah, maybe she's attracted
to that whatever, good for her. Normal. So it's not
normal to be attracted to an old person or I
don't know, I don't think that's normal in the statistical
statistical sense.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
It may exist. Let's get a break.
It's time for our weekly conversation with legendary sports writer
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
All right, big thanks to the RAM for sponsoring this
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radio show. And I know about you, Hughey, but it's
so much more fun when the Mariners are winning. It's
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Indeed it is. I know a guy that agrees with that.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Our friend Larry Stone with us on the radio show
courtesy of the RAM.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
How are you pal?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
I'm doing good. How are you guys doing?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
We're good? We're good.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So why don't we just start at the top of
the mountain and work our way down? Jerry Depoto about
a month and a half ago.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Offensive team? Is he right? Do the Mariners have a
good offensive team?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Larry?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
We're a month's in. Are you ready to proclaim that
the Mariners.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Good offensive team? Have a good offensive team.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Well, I look at the lineup softy, and it shouldn't
be the case. They had three guys who started the
year in Tacoma and pat e seventh, eighth, and ninth tonight.
But you look at the stats in their top ten
and virtually every important category in top five in some
of them. So they're performing like a good offensive team,
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and I guess that makes them a good offensive team.
I really think that whatever clicked last year when Edgar
took over at the same time that Dan Wilson took over,
has carried over to this year. And there's a definite
change in approach. They're not striking out as much, they're
walking a lot more, they're putting the ball in play,
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and it's paying off. I mean, they look like a
really good offensive team. And until I see otherwise, I
mean there are you could see definite warning signs, the
guys who are playing way over their head and the like.
But I think they're going to be better than we
ever thought they would be.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
ALT say that, well, we've been having fun with the question,
all right, are you buying this offense?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
So I'm going to present it to you like this.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
You know, the kp out of never know why they
didn't call it CP, but KP is closest to the PIN.
So if I had to say to you, Larry Stone,
at the end of the year, out of thirty teams
you have to hit, you have to guess exactly where
they will rank the Mariners offense and run scored, your
answer would be what.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I'll say about twelve, okay, which you know, if the
pitching had stayed intact, that would have been more than
enough to a division title team. But now they've lost
sixty percent of their starting pitching and you know Bryce
Miller who knows. So I think they need that. They
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have to be that kind of offense to get where
they want to go.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, they were twenty first a year ago and run scored.
Now they're on pace for eight hundred and twenty one runs,
which Larry would have put them third year ago. So
even going from twenty first to twelfth, there is a
massive jump. And I mean, let's be honest, Kyle Roley's
doing his thing. We're still kind of waiting for Julio
to get going. JP has been pretty damn good, good
bounce back for him so far, I think from last year.
(03:13):
But the story of the year, and maybe the story
in the American League is Hora Polanco. I mean, this
is just unbelievable what this guy is doing. So three
ninety four with a twelve ninety four ops against Righty's
why don't you just take the floor and take a
few minutes to talk about your thoughts on what we're
seeing from Horey Polanco.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah, first, let me just say one thing. JP Crawford's
doing more than pretty good. He's got He's rocking a
four to twenty three on these percentage is absolutely sensational.
I mean, he's he's he's without Polanco, he's their most
valuable offensive player, I think. But yeah, I think you
had asked me on the very first show who my
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breakout candidate was, and I said, Jorge Polonko. The David
foot season started, and then he hit a home run
on opening day, and I think I texted you and
said and gloated a little bit. But yeah, but time out.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
A second time out because you picked a guy that
was freaking terrible a year ago. There's only one way
for him to go, and that was up, Larry. That's
kind of cheating, don't you think.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Do you think anybody expected him to be anything but
terrible again this year.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'm on your side, Larry.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
I'm with you, Larry. You can gloat a little bit premature.
It might be premature, but you can glow for now.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yeah for now. Well, opening Day was definitely premature. But
I mean he's healthy now. He's actually not, which is
kind of weird. But I don't think he's as bad
off as he was last year. You know, he's been
a good player throughout his career. Last year was the aberration.
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I think people forget that that he was an All
Star type guy. He had a thirty three homer season,
he had a five one hundred plus slugging season, regularly
slugged above four fifty. So this was a good player
who we got the worst here in Seattle last year.
And I you know, now we're seeing the kind of
player he could be. And I think you know Edgar
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and Kevin Seitzer got his hands on him and changed
his approach, his stance. He's far less open stands than
he had last year, which he says has been the difference.
I know you've been debating about whether he should but
just you know, play against left handed pitchers because it
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can't for now bat right handed. I don't think so.
I think you just you don't mess with it. I
think he's going to be back getting right handed soon enough.
I wouldn't mess with what he's got going on right now.
I think he can. So far, they've been able to
get by without, you know, with him sitting against the
rare occasions they face a left handed starter. So I
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just think we're seeing a closer version of what poor
hey Polanco really is.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
There's someone with this.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Let's stay there because I'm intrigued by by your thoughts
about this, this stance with the left handedness. Uh so
he so he doesn't have pain? Is if when he's
hitting left handed, does he ever earn the right to say, hey,
let's try and and have you go against a lefty?
Does he want that? Does he say, hey, I don't
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want to go against lefties. I don't want to hurt
my stats, Like, like, how does this play out? How
should this play out? You're saying, just wait until he's
healthy enough to hit from the other side of the plate,
But does he ever earn the right to to maybe.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Go against a lefty?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
You know, I think if he's convicted that he wants
to do it. I think he has earned the right.
But being that I am retired and no longer i'm
going to the park to check on things like that,
I can't definitively tell you what the talk has been
and what he's been his stance on that has been,
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but the fact that he hasn't done it leaves me
to believe that he's okay with not. I think, you know,
you've spent your whole life looking at a pitch from
a certain angle, you know, never having to face the
same handed pitcher because you're a switch hitter. I would
just be afraid that if suddenly he is standing up
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there left handed against a left handed pitcher, an orientation
that he's not used to, I think it could mess
up his mechanics and what he's got going on right now.
You know, I know there are some switch hitters who
give up switch hitting, but he's made a career out
of it, and I don't think it makes sense to me.
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According to Daniel Kramer, who I just he had a
note yesterday that he started taking batting practice right handed,
which leaves me to believe that it's not that far
off until he's go back into a game right handed.
So I would I would just ride the hot hand
and just play him against the right handed starters.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, no, I get it.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You know, look, I mean I looked it up and
I was actually not, I guess shocked, but I'm slightly
surprised that the guy has had over four thousand plate
appearances in his career, Larry, only one of them has
come as a lefty versus a lefty, and only one
other has come as a righty versus a righty. So
he has been on the opposite side of the plate
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every single back for the most part of his major
league career. So I totally get that. But let me
throw something just stupid at you. And this will sound
stupid because of where we were when they resigned the guy.
And again, you know, my take was, hey, look, you
want to bring him back, bring him back, but he
cannot be your biggest free agent ticket that you signed
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over the offseason. They had to do more. That was
my attitude. You want to bring him back and get Alonzo,
You want to bring him back and get Kyle Tucker
and get Bregman. Okay, great, but what ticked me off
is that this was their biggest investment over the offseason.
At seven point five million dollars. The third base thing
is now officially over. That was a joke when it started.
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The guy can't play third, and he's never going to
play third because Williamson's that guy now. But this is
a month in he's raking the ball. He's a free
agent when the year's over. How long does this have
to continue before the Mariners approach this guy about bringing
him back for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Well, I don't think there's any urgency to do that.
Maybe the All Star break something like that. I think
it's it's too early to lock them up, you know,
considering his health history and everything. Let's you know, I'm
sure their stances. Let's see where this goes. But I
agree with your main point there that that should not
have been their main addition. And you look at the
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first baseman now are hitting with even with Solano getting
four hits in his last three games, maybe starting to
break out of the season long slump, but their first
basement are hitting a accumulative one with a two twenty
seven on base percentage and a two ninety three slugging percentage,
which is abysmal for an offensive position. I mean that,
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you know, the corners were just crying out for them
to get a legitimate bat. Now everyone wanted Justin Turner
or Carlos Santana. I look them up today and they're
they're pretty bad. Turner has basically got the same numbers
as done of Van Solano, and Santana is a little
bit better, but his OPS is under six hundreds. So
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you know, people were disappointed they didn't get those guys,
but that might have not been the answer anyway. But
so you know, I don't think Alonso was ever a
legitimate possibility, but I think we all would have liked
them to see them at least make a run at it,
or Christian Walker or somebody like that. But I don't
think they, in their wildest imagination they thought that Jorge
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Polanco was going to do what he's been doing. I
think that's just a stroke of luck for them. But
then now you know they're going to have to address
the first pace situation. Then they've got Tyler Locklear at
Takomans who's hitting sweet thirty for the Rainiers with the
ops over nine hundred. So I think it's about time
to give him a look too, and maybe maybe he
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could give him a jolt like Williamson did when he
came up.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, Larry Stone with us courtesy of the RAM And
I actually didn't realize this because they spend so much
time talking about routing. Talas was a free agent for
six months and there's a reason why he was sitting
out there. You realize he's had a negative war in
four of his last five years in Major League baseball,
and now he's your starting first basement. So, I mean, honestly,
how much longer does the rowdy Tells experiment last?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
You think, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I I mean,
he had those huge hits in Toronto, though you know
they had homered in each game. He hit that grand
Slam that won that game, looked like he you know,
that showed what the potential for him is. But we
have haven't seen much of that. I haven't seen hardly
anything from Solano. I would expect almost any time now
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to see Locklear, especially since he's just tearing up the
Pacific Coach League. It just makes sense. You can't have
a first base position that's as unproductive as this one
has been for a team that has designs on winning
the division.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Larry Stone with US Larry finished this sentence.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
So I'm loving what the Manners are doing thirty games
into it, but I'm non at my fingernails because I'm
concerned about you just said at first base. I'm concerned
about first base and what's.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Finish.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Yeah, that's an easy one, Hugh. I never thought i'd
be saying this. But the starting pitching, uh, you know everybody, Yeah,
I mean Kirby is out. Uh, you know, they expect
him back soon. But until he's back, you know, he
hasn't even thrown a pitch other than a simulated game
in two months. Who knows what's going to happen when
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he gets on the mound and pitches for real, which
he's going to probably do real soon in Tacoma, Logan Gilbert.
Everyone's you know, pretty optimistic about the initial results of
the MRI, but for you know, you hear the word
words forearm, stiffness, you get very, very concerned. And so
I don't think. I don't think he's out of the woods,
and we probably won't see him for at least a month,
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even under the best of circumstances. Bryceon Miller has complained
of soreness recently. Last start. You know, he gutted his
way through five shoutout innings, but he was not sharp
at all. He hasn't been sharp all year, and you know,
I think there's some concern there too. So that's sixty
percent of rotation. Uh. You know, we all assume that
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at the trade deadline they would have to add a bat,
but you know, I think there's a scenario where they
may have to add a starting pitcher. The two kids
have done real well, Logan Evans and and Hancock. You
know you had that stat about five and two in
the games they started. That was after starting off oh
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and tow the first two. You know, Hancock got ripped
and then the other Testillo didn't do well his first start,
but then they won every game since. So you know,
did you just wonder how long that's going to keep up.
I think I think Hancock's are very capable rotation fill in.
I don't know about Evans yet. He could be if
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they if they pitch well, that will mitigate what I
just said. But I just having that from from being
that dominant starting rotation where you felt good every day,
I just have concerns about that being the case this year.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
So you're telling me that They got lucky with the
injury factor with the rotation last year, and we should
not count on that happening again this year. Okay, yeah,
you're right, because it's not happening again. I mean, this
is so ridiculous. This is exactly what we talked about
over the offseason. They can't count on these guys staying
healthy as a fivesome the way they did a year ago.
And it started before the season even began because Kirby
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hit the IL and now Logan Gilbert is banged up
and Bryce Miller's got some back issues, so that is frustrating.
But hey, they're getting carried by their offense, man, which
you were hoping to see and now you're seeing it.
But Larry Stone with us and Larry before you go,
I don't know how much of the NFL Draft you
watched over the weekend. You can put your old Times
columnists hat on here for a second. The story was
(15:44):
obviously Shador Sanders. It's amazing how Colorado and Dion and
Schadur were a major talking point throughout the college football season,
and they were the biggest talking point over the weekend
with the draft. What did you make of the reaction
to the reaction to the reaction of Shador Sanders falling
to the fifth round, some people saying there was racism involved.
(16:07):
There's this major delta between what this person sees on
tape and what that person sees on tape with Shador.
What'd you make of that whole storyline over the weekend?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Then, Yeah, it was fascinating to see it unfold and
kind of horrifying in the same way I felt, you know,
I couldn't help but feel sorry for him, as I
know he brought a lot of it on himself, but
to see somebody drop that precipitously, you know, there there
was a little bit of empathy there. But you know,
(16:37):
I think it's you know, there's so many theories, as
as you said, but I just think it's the case
of him not being as highly rated, being rated as
the first round quarterback, and then not wanting the hassle
that comes with the whole Sanders family, you know, in
(16:57):
a backup quarterback, and I think that pushed him down.
And then you hear how he came off in his
interviews and pro days and all that, you know, didn't
comport himself that well and turned a lot of teams
off and you put all that together, and I think
teams just didn't want to mess with the spectacle, and
(17:20):
and so you just saw him drop and drop and drop.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Larry great stuff. Always appreciate this. Thanks for doing it.
And we're talking a week my friend.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
All right, thanks guys, look at Larry.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Stone with us on the radio show. Man, we're got
a break.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
There's lots happening around the NFL, and none of it
really has anything to do with the NFL. I'll explain
next on ninety three three KJRFM.
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Speaker 2 (17:59):
Alright, thanks to Larry Stone for joining the radio show.
It's amazing how much funner the shows are and how
much better our lives are when the Mariners are playing
decent baseball. Man, And it's one of my favorite things
to do is just dive into baseball reference dot Com,
pour over numbers, pour over stats. You really can't do that,
or don't do that as much in other sports, I
think because baseball is so numbers driven Like dude, last night,
(18:22):
couldn't sleep. One o'clock in the morning, I'm up a
Baseball Reference dot Com looking at Hore Polanco's career splits.
I think I put a tweet out at like one am.
By the way, on that, so you don't trust me
check it. That's how dedicated I am to this craft. Here, baby,
there's a story, by the way, Hughey developing. It's not developing,
it's already obviously come and gone, but involving a former
(18:45):
teammate of yours in Denver, John Elway, who I still
contend was one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time
that never gets his due. Man, that guy had a
freaking hotwitzer for an arm, unbelievable, but not enough people
talk about him.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I don't know if you know that name or not.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Longtime friend, business partner, and former agent of John Elway.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Have you heard this?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
By the way, Jackson died today from injuries suffered when
he fell off a golf cart reportedly being driven by
John Elway. This happened in Riverside County in California. The
coroner confirmed the death was injured Saturday night in Lakinta
down there in the Palm Springs Palm Desert area, obviously,
(19:30):
and was declared dead early Wednesday at a Palm Springs hospital.
According to TMZ, Elway was driving the cart when Spurback
fell off and hit his head on the asphalt I
assume on the cart path or a parking lot. Spurbeck
had been sitting in the passenger seat. TMZ also reported
he was on life support following the fall. So this
(19:51):
is a pretty decent sized story involving one of the
greatest players to ever play in the NFL. I'm not
sitting here trying to throw Acus nations at anybody, But
if John Elway was driving the golf cart and this
guy fell out and hit his head and died, he's
gonna have to answer some questions.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Obviously.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Yeah, there's there's some potential, real problems for John Elway,
I would think. And I really like John. His nickname
was Woody with the team. Nobody called him John.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
He's Woody. He's a really good guy. We caught horse face,
by the way, just so you know, I'm aware of that.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
And by the way, it's his it's sports agent is
his football contract agent was always Marvin dem Off.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Your agency.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Right, yeah, yeah, But so here here's where I think
the problem is. You got concerns criminally for Elway and
civilly and in terms of we don't know a lot
of things, right, there's a lot of questions that aren't answered,
like was there any blood drawn? Was there any evidence
that he was driving negligently? What did he say? Were
(20:51):
their witnesses? Right in the civil manner, Remember, the burden
of proof in a civil manner is is merely preposterous?
Uh of the evidence? Was it more likely or not
that he caused a death? And that so that even
though there's a different burden of proof that the guilt
in that there's an assumption of risk that's associated with
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that standard that is not in the criminal arena. And
meaning this guy would know that he's been drinking, and
I'm hypothesizing I don't know that always been drinking at all.
So I'm not asserting that. I'm just making speculations, making
inferences that may be unwarranted. But these are the type
of questions that would need to be answered. But if
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there was certain risks like that, including drinking, then he
the victim, would have an assumption of risk that does
not occur again in the criminal arena, and the burden
of proof for criminal of course beyond a reasonable doubt.
Now would they have a pursuit and would there be
(21:59):
a case? I think if there was blood drawn, and
I'm not saying that there wasn't, this could be a
real sticky legal situation for John Elway. You know, this could,
this could It's not above the possibility that he could
be found guilty of vehicular homicide. Again, a lot of questions.
(22:20):
We don't know the answers to. You just make fair
instances as a guy reading a report. But these are
some of the questions that come to me.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I've shared a lot of nasty crashes in golf carts
by the way, by the way, Hughey, and most of
them were alcohol driven, to be totally honest with you.
So it is a lesson for a lot of people
out there. Man, no question, if you're out with the
guys or gals playing golf, holy moldy. So we'll see
what happens with this. The other the other story today
involving the NFL that has nothing to do with the NFL,
but it's Bill Belichick who was associated with the NFL.
(22:54):
Now the head coach at North Carolina. There was a
interview with CBS News where he was discussing his book,
and Belichick, for those that don't know, is seventy three
years old. He's got a girlfriend, is it Jennifer or
Jordan Hudson? Jordan Hudson, and she's twenty four years old,
so she's pretty much fifty years younger than Belichick. And
(23:16):
a lot of people, including Petros on today, I've talked
about how creepy that is. It's odd, it's weird, whatever,
blah blah blah. There's a portion of the interview where
he was asked by the interviewer how he met Hudson,
and there's a video of Hudson stepping in saying we're
not talking about that and cut off. The interview, drew
(23:37):
national headlines, all that stuff, whatever, and Belichick has had
to come out now and say that it's a false narrator,
that his girlfriend was trying to control the interview with
CBS News. So I asked you off the air, and
I'll ask both of you guys on the air, why
should I care about this? Like, why should this even
be something on my radar? Is there any tangible reason
as a sports fan, or even as a fan of
(24:01):
just the entertainment world, where I should even care about
this interview with Bill Belichick that was apparently cut off
by his girlfriend when the topic of how they met
came up.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Yeah, I think it's a story because, first of all,
you're talking about a figure in Bilichick that has been
called the greatest coach in the in the most popular
sport in America. Now, I don't agree with that. His
win percentage without Tom Brady was four fifty one. That's
good enough for one hundred and thirty sixth place of
(24:31):
all coaches. His win percentage with Tom Brady seven seventy four.
That's good enough for second all time. Only Guy Chamberlain,
who coached in the nineteen twenties is above him. So
to you, I think, what was Vince Lombard's without Bart Starr?
You know, I don't know. I mean he with the Redskins.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Wasn't it terrible? What's terrible?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I I just I bring that up because I think that,
don't most great coaches have great players around them when
they win games.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Well, I mean when you look at his career, he
was at Buffalo Cleveland and then what he did after
Brady Left put it this way, I think Nick Saban
is significantly a better coach that's fair than a Beligic.
But that's just one But the getting back to this,
(25:28):
So why I think it's a story. I think it's
come almost like a People magazine cover People Magazine story,
because you do anytime if you walk into home depot
and you see a seventy three year old with a
twenty four year old, first of all, you're gonna think
she's his daughter or granddaughter. If it becomes clear to
you that they're actually a romantic item, the first thing
(25:49):
I thought it is going to come to you is
what how much money does he have? What kind of
what is he doing for her? Right like, that's just
a natural response. My take is threefold. Jackson number one,
it's his business, More power to him. Number two, he
hasn't lost his mind. He has responded like most single,
(26:09):
average looking, overweight seventy three year olds when they are
dating a twenty four I mean, good god, she's a
If she showed up on the arm of Drake May,
the twenty three year old starting quarterback, good looking guy,
you wouldn't blink an eye. You might say, well, you know,
he could do a little better. I mean her her
(26:31):
uniforms better than her helmet, but I mean but when
compared to still Belichick. So I think he's doing what
most seventy three year sen year old single guys would
do if they had an opportunity to, of course date.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Is it more creepy from her perspective that it is
his perspective.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
I think there's a blurred line between girlfriend, right and
call girl?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Oh wow, wow, the call hookers.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Hugh careful, Well, I didn't want to use that term,
but okay, I mean now and and look, he kind
of looks like a fool's like, what do you have
in common?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Do you really think that she is into you? Now?
Speaker 6 (27:10):
This is not part of my vocabulary, but there's a
a word called gerontophilia, never heard of it, which which
Webster calls attraction to old people. I'm not even kidding you,
sex attraction toward old person. So maybe she has girontophelia that.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Today.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I think I had a case at gerontophelia when I
was in high school. By the way, holy Craft subtophyliac like, like,
I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I don't think she's a jernt.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Well, the president of Francis, his wife is seventy two
years old.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
And you know what, there been more power to him.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
But so how so time out of second time out?
Because this this brings up a big conversation because society
says that what Bill Bellach check and in some ways
what Emmanuel Macron, the president of France, who's forty seven
and his wife is seventy two. They find that creepy?
How how how much can we can we squeeze the
gap before it becomes acceptable?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
If he's twenty years older than her, is that okay?
Speaker 7 (28:16):
Half your age plus ten?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
If he's thirty, is that okay? Half half his age?
That's that's that's the rule. That's society.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
So if she is so forty five years old, she'd
have to be like forty five years old.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I mean, that's just to be accepted that.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
I want to go back to your your earlier question, Softy, because.
Speaker 8 (28:31):
I mean, on all of this points like love is
love whatever, I don't really care. But the base, the base,
the base question. The base question was why is this
a Storian? Should I care? Why should I care?
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I think this is the this is the.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
Best question to ask when we're talking about this stupid,
stupid topic.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
Okay, I'm not sure if you guys.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Well, I learned we learn where to gionta what's it
called again?
Speaker 6 (29:00):
That means that you can be a gronto. So I
think here's the thing. Do you guys' wives watch like
reality shows like Real house and stuff? So like, so
my wife watches like Real housewives shows, right, And I
feel like in this in the realm of like that
kind of you know, entertainment, Bravo, that kind of stuff TV.
(29:21):
There's the mainstream sports topics, which for us would be
NBA playoffs going on right now, NFL Draft. It's the
mainstream stuff you're gonna pay attention. And then there's just
the really stupid stuff you don't pay attention to and
you just roll your eyes at.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
And that's like the Kardashians.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
For us, this is that it's this deserves absolutely none
of our time or interest or care at all. It's
just roll of the eyes. Get this stupidity off my
Twitter timeline because.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
It's you and you disagree.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Why is that you?
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Well, I would say, when she's walking out on a
North Carolina football field and interrupting football drills and she
has a business card, I don't know. It's something like
chief operating officer in North Carolin, like she.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Is that true? By the way, does she have a title?
I think it's cheap offering, operating off the officer.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Chief gegra genre, whatever the hell it is, operating I
lack old people.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
But but she has inserted herself that A reasonable question
is is is that impacting his ability to coach?
Speaker 7 (30:32):
As sourcing on her interrupting a practice?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
What can I ask you?
Speaker 7 (30:38):
You're sourcing on her interrupting?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
There there's a video. There's a video on Twitter. Yeah,
there's a video. There's a video of her literally Jackson
walking onto a field. I'm watching you right now in
North Carolina. Yeah, I've seen the video. I don't know
if I called the video. You're watching it right now.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I don't know this, okay, but just time out of second.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
How many wives or wags would ever even be on
the field period, per right?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Like, I mean, we've seen a lot.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Of wives that like to watch practice from the sideline
that happens in the stands. I don't ever remember one
of them walking being on the actual playing surface when
there's drills happening on the same field, sir. From that perspective.
Hugh is correct, interrupting, Well, the question is does she
have more power over North Carolina football than we think
(31:24):
she does? And how does that land for you if
you're a UNC football fan. Well, she's got the testicles
of the head coach in her curse. That's pretty obvious.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I forget a break.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
We're gonna hear a little bit from Dan Wilson coming
up after today's Mariner When next on ninety three to
three KJRFM.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
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Speaker 2 (32:00):
We're back Mike Florio coming up six pm hour on
the radio program Humiling In for Dick Fane Today off
the rest of the week and through next week.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yes, it's true, Yeah, this man has.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
We'll be at you up for the spring game on Friday,
by the way back of the Emeral Queen on Monday.
Softy Hugh Jackson hanging out with you until seven o'clock tonight.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Here he is.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
You know, the Mariner's got to win today nine to
three over the Angels. Dan Wilson, Mariner manager, reacting to
today's offensive explosion, A.
Speaker 9 (32:28):
Really good way to cap the home stand here, you know,
another just a really good ball game all up and
down around when you look at offensively, defensively on the mound,
you know a lot of great stuff today. You know,
I thought Emerson pitched very very well. He gave up
ten hits, but you know a lot of broken bats,
(32:48):
you know, nothing that was not a lot of them
hit hard, you know, singles, and able to get out
of a couple of tough, tough spots there early on.
I thought he threw the ball very very well. And
and you know it's a couple of back to back
outings that have been really strong for him, Randy early on,
you know, putting us on the board with the homer
and then uh taking a runaway from them with a
(33:10):
with a great throw from left field was right on
the money, you know, big defensive play right there to
kind of keep the game where it was. Legs doing
a great job, you know, coming out of the bullpen
again and and uh, you know, getting out of a
tough spot there with with a couple of guys on
you know, and then Zarto and and Troy Taylor did
to finish it up. Those guys continued to throw the
(33:31):
ball well. Uh and then you know the seventh inning
was was big getting on base to lead it off,
and then a great bunt by Simon to get his
first big league knock, which is you know, that's a
that's a big that's a big thing in anybody's life
and any player's life, and and to be able to
do that, and then you know the rest of the
offense took took over from there.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Jp with a big.
Speaker 9 (33:51):
Knock, Leo Revos with a big knock, Catchers getting a
couple of stolen bases today. You got to love to
see that. And so just you know, I'm afraid to
keep going because I'm afraid I'm gonna miss something. But
you know, just a great job all around, up and
down the lineup, offense, defense on the mound. A really
good way to end this home stand.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
Would you look at the most about how that rally
came together in the sudden.
Speaker 9 (34:16):
Really just you know where we were getting the contributions
from everybody, and you know, a couple of guys down
at the bottom to kind of set the table and
then you know, things kind of took off from there,
and you know, and then the guys at the top
continuing it. It's just, you know, when you've got that
kind of momentum, that that synergy going, it's it's something
(34:37):
that you know, you can break open the game in
a situation like that, and we were able to do that,
and then you know, I thought Leo's at bat there
to get two more. I think if you get out
of that situation and you're the Angels, you feel pretty
good about only giving up four in that situation. But
Leo just putting together a really good at bat to
get a couple more h to kind of really break
(34:57):
it open at that point. Just just some really good
at bats all the way through.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I gotta be totally honest with you, guys.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I'm listening to Dan Wilson talk the entire time thereafter
today's Mariner win. The boys are now eighteen and twelve,
they're on pace to win ninety seven games, and the
only thing I can think about the entire time that
Dan Wilson's talking is Bill Belichick's girlfriend really a hooker, because.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
You brought that up last segment.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
And then I see a report that Jordan Hudson within
days and weeks of after dating Bill Belichick amassed at
eight million dollar real estate fortune.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
So what's going on here? Man? How did see a
mass it and I have connected to Belichick? What are
you guess? Why did you take a guess? Man?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
You're the one that put that in my brain that
Bill Belichick's girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Actually might be a hooker.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
Well, I mean, like I said, it's a blurred line
between girlfriend because, oh dude, here's my supposition. No, I
don't think she's a torontophiliac. I don't think she's attracted
to him. I think that she you know, you know,
I'm net in her head. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm wrong,
(36:12):
And and if evidence comes forward and it's to the contrary.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I'll change my mind.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
I go in with a raised eyebrow thinking what does
she stand to benefit from a relationship with Bill Belichick?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Well?
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Money and fame. Oh what a surprise, what a motivation? Right,
We've never heard that before? So yeah, I mean, I
I you saw pretty women?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
At what point? Did did Richard Julia Roberts? Yeah? I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
I doubt it's very appropriate for me to compare Bill
Belichick and this to Richard Gear that.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
None of this is appropriate.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I'll be the one to say, I'm sorry, man, the
Mariners one, we should be in rejoicing, embracing that fired
up for them.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
They're doing great, they're offenses kicking assen.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
You put that in my brain, you put that little
seed of thought in my brain, and I'm sorry. I
just cannot stop thinking about it that we got a
pretty woman type situation here, and look, if she's into
old dudes, she's into old dudes. I mean, what do
you what do you call somebody who's into blondes? What
do you call somebody who's into brunettes?
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I mean, good god, I mean yeah, maybe she's attracted
to that whatever, good for her. Normal. So it's not
normal to be attracted to an old person or I
don't know, I don't think that's normal in the statistical
statistical sense.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
It may exist. Let's get a break.
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