April 7, 2025 • 36 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Hugh Millen chat about the weekend for the Mariners including Victor Robles’ injury, plus get updates from Justin Hollanders, then discuss the Seahawks draft plans at wide receiver before getting some Fun w/ Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Going just looking up and I keep seeing this replay
of Victor Robless's injury from the game yesterday, And you know,
it's funny. I was just down with a ian during
cross talk with our buddy Anders Anders and I asked him,
I said, is nobody complaining about that setup in San
Francisco in right field where the wall is like three
feet high and there's a big net you could get
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caught up and tangled in behind the wall. And they said, no,
nobody's been complaining about that. And then I go online, Hugh,
and I see Mike Yastremsky, who was Carl Yastremsky's grandson,
as you know, who plays for the Giants, apparently has
expressed concerns about the safety of the Oracle Park outfield,
including the low sidewall in the right field corner.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So this has been something that's been brought up before,
and it just cost the Mariners one of their best
hitters for at least the next week and a half.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Well, I think, yeah, there's a lot of parks, as
you know, I mean, more than we could count that
have I don't know what what's considered low. I mean,
that's a relative term another man uh lows as one
man's high. But but we we see that a lot, right,
but we don't often see where you have to deal,
as you said, with both elements, right, like like I've
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got to deal with the low wall. But then now
instead of being able to just calculate how I want to, uh,
you know, protect my body, now, now all of a sudden,
your instincts are gonna get caught up because you're gonna
get caught in that net.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Uh. You know it's reportedly an AC separation.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Have we have we learned the grade as anybody U.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
No, these getting an mlright this afternoon, so we're waiting
on that.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
So I had a left shoulder separation exactly the AC
and by the way, I didn't know this until I
sustain one. Maybe maybe you're like me that you use
the terms shoulder separation and shoulder dislocation kind of synonymously
from what I've learned, And again, uh, not a doctor here,
but but I've talked to a lot of doctors because
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I have I've had the injury. But an AC separation
your collarbone go from your your clap, your sc joint,
your sternal clovicar, your joint right in the middle of
your chest and then it goes over to the top
of your shoulder when that collarbone gets separated and pops
off the top. So the collarbone right, it pops up
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and you can actually see it right in the mirror.
That is an ac separation. And then you have Grade
one is the most mild, then Grade two, and then
frequently it's it's it's said that grade three is the worst,
although some doctors I think can talk about a grade four.
But but that is different than a dislocation. If you
remember me Mel Gibson and what was the look the
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weapon where it was all that was a dislocation where
your humorous your upper arm bone becomes your your you know,
your shoulder is a ball and stocket joint. The the
upper arm bone gets pulled out of the you know,
of the ball and socket joint and then goes back up.
So that that I think is a layperson's definition of
a dislocation. I described a separation, and from what has
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been reported, Roblas is dealing with the separation.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
The first injury we discussed.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well, look, I mean the bottom line is they just
don't have any real depth. I mean, when you're talking
about now platooning. You know, Dylan Moore and Luke Rayley
out there in right field. Luke Rayley has been fine
at T Mobile Park, he has not been fine on
the road ever since he joined Seattle. And I think
Dylan Moore is a fine utility guy, but he's not
a starting second baseman or right fielder a legitimate playoff team.
(03:31):
But he is on this team because they failed to
go out and do anything over the offseason. And this
is what happens when when the biggest money making move
you make over the offseason, the biggest contract you dole
out you is for a Polanco for seven point five
million dollars. You do nothing really to improve your starting
pitching depth. You do nothing to improve your offense in
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the lineup or the depth and the offense. You start
losing guys and you're seeing what's happening. I mean, Roe
Bless is out, Hancock knocked around in his first start
and got immediately sent.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Down to Triple A Takamba. He wasn't very good.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
You know, Brian Wo's had a clunker, Logan Gilbert's had
a clunker. Castillo by his standards, has been okay but
not great. You're obviously missing George Kirby, and Bryce Miller's
out a clunker. So the thing for me is, Hugh,
I don't know where your head's at with this baseball
team right now. I don't want to be the guy
that goes on the year and says, calm down, it's early.
Fans want to freak out. Let him freak out, you know.
And they've they've earned that because this is just carry
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over from last year, the year before and the year
before that, where the Mariners had this phenomenal, once in
a lifetime pitching staff and really did not go out
and do anything to compliment them. Like we talk all
the time about what the Chiefs did to help out
Patrick Mahomes with their offensive line. Right, they go out
and they signed Patrick Mahomes for this fifty million dollars
half a billion dollar contract, and they say, you know,
it's not just enough to give Mahomes the money and
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have Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
We need to get the best out of him.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
We're gonna go spend some money and make some moves
and build the guy an offensive line. And they ended
up winning three titles mostly because of that. So that's
number one, But number two, there's just so much negativity
man around this baseball team. And I'm not saying it's
not justified, it's absolutely justified. But how many fan bases
in baseball would be losing their mind and throwing in.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
The towel after a week and a half.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
This one is because they've beaten us down and the
fans have no confidence in this group whatsoever to get
the job done, which is disheartening after a week and
a half of baseball.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Well yeah, because you're already five games back. You got
a three hundred win percentage, which is second worst than
the American League a year ago. You know, everybody's been
sounding the alarms about, well, hey, is this pitching staff.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Are they going to regress to any kind of mean? Right?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
A year ago they were number one in the er,
the pitching staff, number one in baseball, not just the
American League. Right now they're twentieth. A year ago they
were number one in ops six forty nine, number one,
and now it's seven to fifty. Their ranked twenty third.
So the pitching staff, I'm not gonna say they've regressed
the me because, as you said, we haven't seen enough games.
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But you don't have Kirby. You know, I think everybody
thought thought that Hancock. I mean I I was one
of those guys that thought, hey, if you do trade Castillo,
you know, the the O G. Castillo, right, not not
this point, oh Castillo, if you if you take if
you trade Castillo one point, oh that okay, Hancock. Based
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on what they've done with young pitching, you'd say Hancock
is ready to be a number five. And it was
so abysmal in the eyes of the Mariners and and
in his uh one start that they don't even want
to see him again. So you know, I'm back to
square one with him. So yeah, I mean you just
wonder kind of okay, what is this pitching staff? And
(06:47):
in some ways it feels like a donut the pitching staff,
because you got the you got the starters at the
beginning right there on one side, and then you got
Muonios right, But then there's kind of a hole in
the like, what are you doing in you know, seventh
and eighth innings? Sixth, seventh and eighth inning. You know
that the bullpen I think has yet to really prove
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itself in that regard. So there are some there are
some questions emerging even from this pitching staff that is
so beloved locally.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And look, I mean that's what pisses you off, right
that you just kind of feel like, what are we doing?
Like we know we're healthy right now, we know this
pitching staff is dominant right now. I'm talking about last
year in the year before that, and you do virtually
nothing over the offseason and free agency. I mean, on
its own, Hugh, I don't know what your thought was,
but on its own, getting Justin Turner getting Randy Arose
(07:38):
Arena at the deadline was fine. You know, if you're
waiting until the thirty first of July to you know,
make your baseball team significantly better, you're probably gonna be
striking out every single year. But those those two moves
at the deadline last year were fine. It was everything
else they did around it over the offseason and then
again this offseason. This is now the second off season
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in a row with this great pitching staff where they
failed to really do anything of significance to help them out,
and everyone is frustrated. Everyone is just completely you know,
the patience meter is at an all time low with
these guys. I mean, here, I walk in here to
the emeral Queen Casino, and there's a guy that I
know that works at the security desk.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
He looks at me, he says, what the hell is
wrong with the Mariners.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I mean, they've played ten games and people are just
flipping out already because they're just they're they're expecting the worst.
And you mentioned the five games out in the American
League West, which, hey, look, the goal was to win
the division. So I don't have any problem with you
bringing that up, and I think it's justified to bring
that up. The Wildcard does change things. Obviously, they're two
games out in the Wildcard, which is even like to
(08:41):
be even saying that right now on April seventh is
kind of ridiculous to even quoting the wildcard race.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
It's kind of silly in April.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
But when that five in the West becomes eight or
nine and that Wildcard deficit becomes five or six, then
you start to kind of maybe have a problem. So
I don't know, it just kind of feels like this
is up pretty as as big as the series can get.
In early April on a Monday night against the Houston Astros,
this feels about as big as you can make it.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Tonight, yeah, it really does.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And you know, I think that my impression is that
maybe the offense is a little better. I mean, despite
the fact six out of ten of the games they've
they've scored three runs or less. But you know, a
year ago, the offense was four point one seven runs
per game. Now it's three point two. Seattle's twenty seventh
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in the in all of baseball in scoring, tied for
twenty seven. There's only two works now, thankfully one of
them is the Astros. But and you know Atlanta, we
know how they've just had a very unforeseen skid to
start their scuffle to start their season. But you know,
the runs, the runs aren't really there now. The pitching,
(09:54):
we discussed the numbers. I don't know this team. You know,
we've got concerns about the day up rob is now.
I mean it looked like that, Okay, you got a
lead off here and and you know, sliding Julio into second, Okay,
that seems to be that makes sense, right, And yeah,
and Roblaze was, you know, leading the team in stolen bases.
You know, a guy that could create things, a little
(10:15):
bit of havoc, you know, a little bit more of
a quintessential lead leadoff guy, or at least in some
of his skill set. And and now who no long
who knows how long he's out.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, well they've scored thirty two runs, the Mariners have
And this is just more symbolic than anything else. I mean,
I'll just tell you that I'm not I kind of
feel uneasy looking at stats this early in the year.
You know, one or two games can really skew an era,
or skew a batting average, or skew a team's rankings
where it comes to runs and you know, batting average
(10:44):
and ops and things like that. So I almost feel
like a moron looking at numbers this or early, to
be honest with you. But the symbolism, though, is hard
to get over. They've scored thirty two runs so far
this season, Okay, nineteen of the third have come in
three games, and they've lost them all. They've lost the
game scoring six, they've lost the game scoring nine, they've
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lost the game scoring four. Like, I don't know what
the number is off the top of my head, but
it was ridiculous last year when the m scored four
runs were.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
More, they were almost unbeatable. And now they've scored runs.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
They've scored four runs or more at least three times,
I mean four times overall, but three times, and they've
let nineteen of their thirty two runs have come in
games that they've lost.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
You.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So, I mean that's just like the symbolism of that
is not lost on me. Meaning if this team starts
to score runs and they lose because their bullpen can't
hold a lead, or they're starting pitching can't get the
job done. I mean, look, if they're starting pitching, isn't there,
forget about it, forget it. We can just build this
whole thing in and start talking Seahawks all summer long.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, I mean that kind of sounds like complimentary, you
know in football, right you want to the offensive defense
want to compliment or at least be able to have
the others back. And it feels like a sibling to
you know how, going with runners in scoring position, what's
your batting average?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
What's your production?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Right? Right? You know?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Right if if, if the if the offense does give
you those games, given the strength of your your pitching
staff to have to take it, yep, I mean that
just hurts, Uh, it.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Does it does? It hurts?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
It hurts big time, you know, because I think the
fans are waiting for some excitement. They're waiting for something
to seek their teeth into. And I didn't have any
idea what the crowd's going to look like tonight, tomorrow
and Wednesday, but I assume it's not gonna be very good.
I mean, Dick and I were debating this, you know,
a week and a half ago. I mean, Jackson knows,
we had this conversation in the air about opening day,
and you know, I said, look, I've I've don't ever
(12:38):
remember going to an opening day at that stadium where
there were that many empty seats in one section right field,
the upper deck and right field. HU opening day was
almost empty. Uh for that, for that, for that opener
against the Ya's. But I want to do this real quick,
just to get an update here because it is newsworthy.
Mariner general manager Justin Hollander. Hugh just a few minutes ago,
(12:59):
was with the media and talked about the injury to
Victor Robless, the plan, what's going on with Matt Brash,
and more.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Check it out.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
I'll start with Victor. He's gonna go on the IL oday.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
You guys have seen Canzon one here will announced that
that's a recall for Victor's spot shortly. I don't know
any beyond that he's getting imaging done this afternoon, so
we will go a timeline after the imaging. Everything else
I would tell you would just be totally guessing, and
I don't think it's super additive. So we'll know more
in the next twenty four to thirty six hours. We
will update you when we know more. So that's Victor.
(13:31):
Matt Brash is gonna throw a live VP on Wednesday
here and then we will talk about a rehab assignment
and Tacoma. At that point, I can't play how long.
It kind of depends on how he feels and what
we see with our eyes slash what the data says,
but very likely to begin a rehab assignment end of
this week.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Early next week, win Tacoma at that point, hopefully the
BP go as well on Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
To hear.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
George Kirby through a pen this weekend felt great. Go
throw a two pens this week and then begin more
of a traditional spring training type game progression.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
At that point. I don't have an exact timeline.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Some of it depends on how he feels and how
things work through the game situations that he's in. But
again he's tracking well. Anticipate the two pens going well
this week, and.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Then we'll go from there with game progression. So George
doing great.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Jackson cor is still the same timeline as he's been
on late April, early May rehab assignment. Would anticipate that
being a fairly lengthy one, just given the length of
time that he's been out, but you know, late May
or early June projecting back in activation time. Troy Taylor,
he will throw one inning either tomorrow or Wednesday. I
think it's Wednesday on the calendar, but I'll double check
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that and then we'll reassess at that point whether he
needs more rehab outings or whether he's ready to go
for activation. And Trevor Gott will start live vps this
week is where he's completed the.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Bullpen phase of two days rehab. Where about your che
this rehab since.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
I don't know yet, He'll do some work in Arizona
and then we'll see whether it makes more sense to
do an everet or Tacoma. We'll see what the weather's like.
He could end up being neither of those places if
it's bad weather. We'll just see where we go once
he gets tough the pens.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
This week with ropeless. Is the imaging just on the shoulder,
limited to just the shoulder correct? So X ray is
negative and on the front of these yeah, I mean
the MRIs will tell us more than an X ray cood,
so we will we will know more for the MRIs.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Again, I don't want to speculate on anything you have
imaging today and we'll go from there. Justin on George
as he continually hit each benchmark, and with this progression.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
He talked about maybe late a brol.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I know you want to give the tie.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Round on him, but is is he hitting all the spots.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
That he wants.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
He's hitting all the spots late April seems optimistic to me,
just given where we are on the calendar.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
But that's George is. And really the benchmarks that we
were looking for tring.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Him to hit was to feel good after his throwing sessions,
in his kind of sessions, and he feels great right now.
So again, we'll see how the two go this week
and then start moving into game situations. I don't think
it will be like a full spring training ramp up,
because he was already kind of built to that point
over the winter and into an early part.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Of the spring.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
But he does need to go real game progression. It's
not gonna be throw two innings and comes with the
big leagues, so we will will be responsible and make
sure we're checking all the boxes.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
But he does do a great so far.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
We're a really rich all right here. I don't know
about you.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
That seems like fairly decent news on Victor Robless and
the shoulder that it's just you know, contained to the shoulder.
You saw the injury yesterday walking off the field. My
first reaction is, well, he just broke his wrist, you know.
I mean he's holding his wrist, and I thought maybe
he busted his forearm or or busted his wrist, which
could have him out for a lot longer obviously, but
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shoulder problem for Victor Robless ten day, I l for him.
Ken Zone is up. George Kirby a couple of bullpen
sessions this week and they'll make a move after that,
and then Matt Brash is gonna pitch on Wednesday and
then maybe end up in triple A. By the way,
we're gonna be at the rate of ears on Friday,
so he may be down there when we're down there
as well.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
So those are the updates. A couple of things. First
of all, it's it's good news if it's not a
serious shoulder injury. Now if again an AC separation. Basically,
in simple terms, you won't see it, like to the
naked eye looking in the mirror, just looking at a guy,
not the X ray. A grade one doesn't have any deformity.
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A grade two has a slight bump, a grade three
as a big bump. And now you can see in
an X ray if you have a grade three. Trust
me from experience. I've looked at my right shoulder, my
left shoulder when they got X ray and you can see, oh,
here's the separated one. The collarbone is sticking way up.
So if it's a really serious grade three separation, even
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grade two, you can see that on an X ray. Now, hallander,
if you have that, it's not that it's a broken bone,
it's the bone is sticking up high and there's torn
ligaments associated with that. It's the ligaments that are keeping
that collarbone down that they get stretched and pain full
and weak, and what have you for me? When I
had it, I mean we seventh. I had this Grade two,
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seventh game of the season. We're playing the Rams. Come back,
we play the forty nine ers at home. Now it
gets hit again. It becomes a Grade three right then then,
and I'm still playing through all this because it's my
left shoulder, and I read the Boston Globe birds Erin's
at mass generally he says, well, his soulder can't get
any worse. It's a Grade three. Now we play the
Browns and I look at the X ray. Wait, it
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got worse. Now it's a Grade four. And I had
teammates it was. There was actually in sports shot lend it.
He said, hey, cover, put a towel over that soulder.
It was that gross in terms of how deformed it was.
So I just the question is what great is this?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Right?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Well, you know what, it was a Grade one or two.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
He won't need surgery, right, he just needs rest.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yes, yes, I'm looking at I mean, this is just
AI obviously, but I mean Grade three could be three months.
For God's sakes, you could miss the first.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Half of the year if they have surgery, the entire season.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Right, exactly, all right, We're gonna praak a lot more
to get to huston for Dick the entire week.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Mike de COURSI gonna join us.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
He's in San Antonio and around four o'clock today, and
then Matt Thomas. Hugh is a good buddy of ours.
He does a sports talks show in Houston. He's a
big Houston Cougar fan. He's gonna join us literally from
the stands at the Alamo Dome at around five thirty.
So how many King beers is he gonna have? How
many Alamo beers is he gonna have down there by
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that time? I got no idea. Jackson, you might want
to test the Dumpe system, make sure everything's working right
before we put Matt on the air at five thirty.
But he will join us, and then Bill Cruder gonna
hop on a great day to have Bill on talking
to Mariners at five o'clock. As we continue, Hugh Win
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Now, we talked about him last week right.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
On two different occasions, and Dick brought up the idea
that a couple of years ago Tep McMillan said, I
don't watch tape and don't like playing football, and that
was the first time that you and I had heard that.
My reaction was, well, why would he say that. Your
reaction is this guy's kind of a nitwit for God's sakes.
And turns out it was a couple of years ago,
which does add some context to it.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
But if you want to kind of follow up on
that and then just give.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Us your thoughts on that the Seahawks drafted TEP McMillan,
Meta comes on the air Friday said she would run
to the podium if he was on the board at
number eighteen.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
How about you. Well, first of.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
All, I went back after our initial conversation and Dick
the way he had presented, I had thought he had
said that recently, like maybe at the combine or so,
did I right?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
And I'm like, okay, that guy's a complete idiot. It
turns out he was younger as he said two years ago.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I don't think no. I went back and you know,
researched what I thought was adequately. I didn't see any
quote where he says I don't like playing football, so
and maybe he said that. In my quest, I saw
comments about how he doesn't watch tape.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
What what what?
Speaker 3 (22:10):
And the clarification would be, it's that he doesn't watch
tape by himself, separate from from what he watches with
the team. And you know when he comes to the NFL. Look,
I played with Andre Riisen. There's a guy, great player,
great freaking player, and but you know, kind of a knucklehead.
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Mike home Grinn will tell you basically the same thing.
I would not be one bit surprised if if Andre
Risen never watches tape. I don't want to pick on Andre,
but I'm I can pick a I could say on
other guys that I played.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
On in my career.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
You're watching as a receiver, you come to work, you're
watching opponent game tape all morning before you practice in
the afternoon. So I do think for some players you
get adequate film study by what by just being in
the team meeting if you're paying attention. Now, A lot
of times those kind of guys aren't paying attention. But
that's another story. Switching gears to tep McMillan, I think
(23:08):
it's really important to note this. If you take the
top thirty or I should say this, there's thirty five
guys that were targeted one hundred times or more. The
percent of being in the slot of those thirty five, again,
these are the most targeted guys, thirty five guys. Jackson
Smith and Jigbow was number one. He was in the
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slot eighty one point two percent of the time. Cooper
Cup he is number six on that list at sixty
four percent of the time. And so that what that
does is if you have guys that are more slot
receiver attributes. You know, in the case of certainly in
the case of Cooper Cup, when you as a quarterback,
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when when I see him split out wide where he's
close to the sideline and the corner is is eminem
in shadowing him, that corner is going to be a
lot faster than Cooper Cup. So that corner can play
at at a throttle down speed, which makes him a
lot quicker in and out of breaks.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Right, you got me, right?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
And what Cooper Cup's advantage is when you put him
in the slot. Now he has the mox. He has
a great feeling zone for how to idle. He has
these little moves that he makes that look like man
and man moves, but they're within his zone, a little
bit of shimmy. But he's not going against as good
an athlete. He's going against more players. You know it's
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in you know, linebackers, safety, what have you. He have
to process more, but you don't have to be as
dynamic as an athlete, at least from a speed standpoint.
So as a as a wide receiver, I am not
bullish on Cooper Cup moving forward in his career outside
and in fact, out of thirty five his his yards
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per route run when he lined up wide. I know
that's a mouthful yards per route run. As a wide receiver,
that means the widest guy in the formation generally going
against an opponent corner.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Cooper Cup was.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Twenty eight out of thirty five last year and he's
only getting a year older. Right, So I like I
still like Cooper Cup, but I do not like him outside.
If I'm a quarterback, I'm gonna go a little bit
of first person here.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Well, but hang on a second hang on just a minute.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Can I go back for a second, because if you're
saying that you don't like Cooper Cup outside, then you're
playing Cooper Cup inside. You're playing Cooper Cup inside, you're
playing Jackson Smith and Jigba on the outside. You draft
Tep McMillan, where's he playing? I mean DK metcalf is
sixty four, two thirty five, he's gone, uh, tap McMillan
sixty ford. But what two nineteen or so if you
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draft Tap McMillan, does he become your new ex And
what does that mean for Jayson?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yes, he does, absolutely, one hundred percent. Now, JSN, he's
better in the slot than he is.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Relative to other receivers.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I would make this assertion, Jysn is a better slot
receiver than an outside receiver. But relative to Cooper Cup,
JSN is a lot better on the outside than Cooper Cup.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
I mean JSN his rookie year. Remember that the game winner.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
He had against the Eagles and right right they when
Drew Locke was quarterbacking, that was an outside fade, Like
he can win outside. Js N's a dude now, right,
But he's just a little bit more of a dude inside.
Cooper Cup, if he has any dude left in him,
is only a dude on the inside. Now, Ted McMillan,
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he had one hundred and seventeen reps in the slot
last year, five hundred and eighty eight as an outside receiver.
His size, his attributes, his skills set. Absolutely, he's the
X that's a legitimate replacement, at least on paper for
DK Metcalf. Because when I come up, let's say the
balls on the left hash and we go trips right.
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We were an eleven personnel. We got a tight end
and three receivers, and so I've got Cooper Cup in
the slot to my right, I've got JSN far out
to the right, and I've got Tech McMillan to my left.
What I'm looking to see there and they're probably going
to be an overfront where the line the line is
shifted over to the trips receiver side and the field,
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so that creates a lot of space out to the
left where I'm looking at Tet McMillan, And the first
thing I'm saying is what are you doing to the
with the nearest safety? Is the near safety going to
be in the middle of field, in which case I
got tet one on one and the weak side linebacker
in an overfront. He's got the B gap, so he's
gonna be tucked inside close to the football. So I've
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got all this this space with Tep McMillan out to
my left. The safety's in the millfield. He can't get
over the top. I got true one on one. That
means that corner. His number one concern is don't get
beat for a go route. So now he's got to
open up his hips and he's saying, whoa this dude,
Tep McMillan. He's fast, and he's big and long. He
can gup over top of me to catch a thirty
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five to forty fade route.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I better get.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I better be trying like hell to stay in phase
with him, meaning my outside shoulder is even or on
top of his inside shoulder. Now I'm in phase, but
I gotta run really fast because whoa this Tep McMillan.
He's got some speed. Now of a sudden, Tep McMillan
does a stop rap. Now people call it comebacks, different curls, digs.
There's a lot of different routes hitches at different depths,
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but they're all just in the family of stop routes. Now,
if I'm the corner, I'm running with Tep McMillan and
he does a stop route because I'm running full gate,
it takes me longer to slow down. That gives him
the separation. If I got Cooper Cup, I'm not opening
up full gate, man. I'm a BMW in like fourth
or fifth gear. I'm ready to put on the brakes immediately.
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Because he does. Cup doesn't have the speed nor the
size to scare me. McMillan does. And so that's where
the compliment of an X receiver is so vital. As
we talk about the different prospects and why I think
he's he would be more valuable McMillan than Matthew Golden
from Texas because of the style.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Well, I think there's a conversation that needs to be had.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
We can't do it now because we're up against the
break and Mike de Coursey's gonna join us from San
Antonio in about twenty minutes. Is a wide receiver room
with Jackson Smith and Jigbuck, Cooper Cup and Teed McMillan
more desirable to you when you consider the finances saved
than a wide receiver room with Tyler Lockett, DK Metcalf
and Jackson Smith and Jigba I'm gonna hit you with
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that at four thirty coming up on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
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Speaker 4 (29:40):
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Speaker 2 (29:43):
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he wants the donuts, he wants it all.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
All right, how about a little fun with Audio Slash.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Hey did you hear that? He went for Dick Faane
all week long? Hey, Hugh, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
We start in college basketball?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Hughie After Houston's comeback win over Duke Cougar's head coach,
Kelvin Sampson, a former Washington State head coach, reacting to
the win on CBS by responding to the many people
who picked Duke to beat them.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I hear what people says.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
We don't this.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
That God is great.
Speaker 9 (30:38):
John sorr is An is awesome. He don't sleep on Houston.
Those sleep on Houston. We went in thirty four and
four playing playing in the Toy Poodle League. We were
nineteen and one in the Big Twelve. Play in the
Big Twelve helped us all shout out.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
In my Big twelve brothers.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
All right, So you know Calvin Sampson the last three
years as one hundred and thirteen and one hundred and
thirteen games at Houston, he is kicking ass. And there
was a little video that ESPN show the year they
were when he first showed up on the job. He's
literally begging people to come watch them play basketball at Houston.
And now they're playing for the national championship for the
first time since nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
You remember where that game was, Hugh Yeah, Kingdome, Yeah, Kingdome.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Patrick ewing A, keem olajah Wan Houston versus Georgetown.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Who do you like tonight?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
By the way, Well, I'm rooting for Florida. I'm concerned
that that Condon the big man for Florida. I think
is there's a hole and it's him. I like how
the other big man. And we've got at some point
talk about Walter Clayton Junior, Like, dude, we've got to
carve a little time about him.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
That is that dude is freaking special, you know, just
real Quickly, I went.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Back and was compelled to look at Steph Curry at
Davidson's career three his last year. Curry at Davidson three
from the three point line thirty eight point seven percent,
Clayton thirty nine point two percent.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Free throw Curry was.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Eighty seven point six percent, Clayton eighty seven point eight percent. Like,
this dude is so smooth. Now, I understand we're talking
about the greatest deep shuter that ever put footprints on
planet Earth. So this's a big stretch for me. But
this dude is so smooth and he's fifty one percent
in the tournament from the three point line. This dude, Like,
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I have not seen a guy that calm and that's
smooth in everything he does. Man, that guy is a star.
Like I haven't seen a long and he started at Iona.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
By the way, I know it.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, it's like, how the hell does a guy like
that end up at Iona? For God's sakes, man, It's
just like the NFL Draft is. Recruiting is an inexact science. Said,
But we'll get to more of that coming up. Layer
Mike de Corsi gonna join us from San Antonio next segment.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Hey, here, did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Towards the end of Yukon and they're women's national championship
blowout win over South Carolina yesterday, cameras caught an emotional
moment between head coach Gino ari Ema and his star
Page Beckers, and a press conference afterwards, Beckers was asked
about the moment between.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
The two, What was going through your head, especially as
you went down the bench, whatever you're willing to share
about that moment specifically. Uh, yeah, again, just gratitude for
all that coaches meant to me and how much she
shake me so the human I am, to the basketball
player I am throughout this entire five years, and just
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putting it all together in one hug, what our journey
has been together. He told me he loved me, and
I told him I hated him. So but we both
love each other even though we hate each other some days.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Well that's what's gonna happen when you hang out every
day for four years. I tell you what.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Though, there is a story kind of indirectly hue between
you and Paige Beckers. We're not going to get to
that now because we got like two minutes left in
this segment. Okay, so coming up later today, we're gonna
get to that. But you've got a connection. Your son
played there, another son obviously is at Florida, So you
got some real connections to to both these schools. So
we'll get to that coming up later on, but let's
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do a couple more before we get to the break.
And Mike de COURSI, hey, here, did you happen to
hear that that's that dick h three or four Jackson?
Which one is more important?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
You think? Let's do four? All right? This morning?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
On First Take, former NHL defender PK Subbn joined the
show to react to Alex Ovechkin breaking Wayne Gretzky's all
time scoring record. Inevitably, the interview turned to the NBA
goat debate where SUBBN stun the crew with his take.
Speaker 10 (34:37):
What Lebron's great, but he ain't Kobe, He ain't Jordan
for me. So what I'm saying is side you want
to talk about six, I'm.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Talking about Jordan.
Speaker 11 (34:54):
Black Mamba gives his credit because this is the only
snake that will attack you without provocation. But it is
not as dangerous as the top paid, is not as
dangerous of the common brown. So what are we talking
about here? John Wick kills a lot of people, but
Sody James bond.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
So what are we doing if the job gets done?
Speaker 10 (35:10):
If we're measuring greatness, it's not just about the numbers,
It's not just about the numbers and the impact on
the court for me. For me, it's situational. It's also
about the moments, rising to the moment and showing that
you are capable of influencing fear into the other team.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Okay, so here is it ridiculous in your opinion to
think that Kobe is higher on the mount Rushmore Goat
list than Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I don't think it's ridiculous. I don't think it's an
absurd take. I think it would be a minority opinion.
But I'll tell you the guy, the friend of mine
that knows most about basketball is a guy named Dave Kaylor.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Look him up.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
He was the point starting point guard for the Huskies
when they won the Pac Ten with back in the
Debt of Days. Okay, now, Alvin Vaughd got hurt, so
Dave had to fill in and we're both in one
another's wed. This guy's from Newport Beach, Southern California. Have
been a Laker fan his entire life. He's got a
great pulse on on the Lakers and what the Lakers
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mean in that community. And he will tell you that
the vast majority of the people is say, hey, this
is not about Lebron over Michael. Is Lebron even more
than Kobe and my buddy d k Uh. He says, no,
Lebron is not Kobe and h and he'll put Kobe
in front of him. That's guy who knows this freaking
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who way more than just about anybody you would ever
meet in a bar.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I'll tell you what we'll do next time the three
of us are together with you and Fain. You can
ask Dick his thoughts and I'm sure he'll agree with
you that Kobe is a better player than Lebron.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Get to that.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
We gotta break. We got a break. We gotta get
to a break. We gotta get to a break. We'll
discuss this more coming up. Mike the Car sat you
gonna join us from San Antonio next on ninety three
to three KJRFM.
Going just looking up and I keep seeing this replay
of Victor Robless's injury from the game yesterday, And you know,
it's funny. I was just down with a ian during
cross talk with our buddy Anders Anders and I asked him,
I said, is nobody complaining about that setup in San
Francisco in right field where the wall is like three
feet high and there's a big net you could get
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caught up and tangled in behind the wall. And they said, no,
nobody's been complaining about that. And then I go online, Hugh,
and I see Mike Yastremsky, who was Carl Yastremsky's grandson,
as you know, who plays for the Giants, apparently has
expressed concerns about the safety of the Oracle Park outfield,
including the low sidewall in the right field corner.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So this has been something that's been brought up before,
and it just cost the Mariners one of their best
hitters for at least the next week and a half.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Well, I think, yeah, there's a lot of parks, as
you know, I mean, more than we could count that
have I don't know what what's considered low. I mean,
that's a relative term another man uh lows as one
man's high. But but we we see that a lot, right,
but we don't often see where you have to deal,
as you said, with both elements, right, like like I've
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got to deal with the low wall. But then now
instead of being able to just calculate how I want to, uh,
you know, protect my body, now, now all of a sudden,
your instincts are gonna get caught up because you're gonna
get caught in that net.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Uh. You know it's reportedly an AC separation.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Have we have we learned the grade as anybody U.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
No, these getting an mlright this afternoon, so we're waiting
on that.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
So I had a left shoulder separation exactly the AC
and by the way, I didn't know this until I
sustain one. Maybe maybe you're like me that you use
the terms shoulder separation and shoulder dislocation kind of synonymously
from what I've learned, And again, uh, not a doctor here,
but but I've talked to a lot of doctors because
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I have I've had the injury. But an AC separation
your collarbone go from your your clap, your sc joint,
your sternal clovicar, your joint right in the middle of
your chest and then it goes over to the top
of your shoulder when that collarbone gets separated and pops
off the top. So the collarbone right, it pops up
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and you can actually see it right in the mirror.
That is an ac separation. And then you have Grade
one is the most mild, then Grade two, and then
frequently it's it's it's said that grade three is the worst,
although some doctors I think can talk about a grade four.
But but that is different than a dislocation. If you
remember me Mel Gibson and what was the look the
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weapon where it was all that was a dislocation where
your humorous your upper arm bone becomes your your you know,
your shoulder is a ball and stocket joint. The the
upper arm bone gets pulled out of the you know,
of the ball and socket joint and then goes back up.
So that that I think is a layperson's definition of
a dislocation. I described a separation, and from what has
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been reported, Roblas is dealing with the separation.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
The first injury we discussed.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well, look, I mean the bottom line is they just
don't have any real depth. I mean, when you're talking
about now platooning. You know, Dylan Moore and Luke Rayley
out there in right field. Luke Rayley has been fine
at T Mobile Park, he has not been fine on
the road ever since he joined Seattle. And I think
Dylan Moore is a fine utility guy, but he's not
a starting second baseman or right fielder a legitimate playoff team.
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But he is on this team because they failed to
go out and do anything over the offseason. And this
is what happens when when the biggest money making move
you make over the offseason, the biggest contract you dole
out you is for a Polanco for seven point five
million dollars. You do nothing really to improve your starting
pitching depth. You do nothing to improve your offense in
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the lineup or the depth and the offense. You start
losing guys and you're seeing what's happening. I mean, Roe
Bless is out, Hancock knocked around in his first start
and got immediately sent.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Down to Triple A Takamba. He wasn't very good.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
You know, Brian Wo's had a clunker, Logan Gilbert's had
a clunker. Castillo by his standards, has been okay but
not great. You're obviously missing George Kirby, and Bryce Miller's
out a clunker. So the thing for me is, Hugh,
I don't know where your head's at with this baseball
team right now. I don't want to be the guy
that goes on the year and says, calm down, it's early.
Fans want to freak out. Let him freak out, you know.
And they've they've earned that because this is just carry
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over from last year, the year before and the year
before that, where the Mariners had this phenomenal, once in
a lifetime pitching staff and really did not go out
and do anything to compliment them. Like we talk all
the time about what the Chiefs did to help out
Patrick Mahomes with their offensive line. Right, they go out
and they signed Patrick Mahomes for this fifty million dollars
half a billion dollar contract, and they say, you know,
it's not just enough to give Mahomes the money and
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have Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
We need to get the best out of him.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
We're gonna go spend some money and make some moves
and build the guy an offensive line. And they ended
up winning three titles mostly because of that. So that's
number one, But number two, there's just so much negativity
man around this baseball team. And I'm not saying it's
not justified, it's absolutely justified. But how many fan bases
in baseball would be losing their mind and throwing in.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
The towel after a week and a half.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
This one is because they've beaten us down and the
fans have no confidence in this group whatsoever to get
the job done, which is disheartening after a week and
a half of baseball.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Well yeah, because you're already five games back. You got
a three hundred win percentage, which is second worst than
the American League a year ago. You know, everybody's been
sounding the alarms about, well, hey, is this pitching staff.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Are they going to regress to any kind of mean? Right?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
A year ago they were number one in the er,
the pitching staff, number one in baseball, not just the
American League. Right now they're twentieth. A year ago they
were number one in ops six forty nine, number one,
and now it's seven to fifty. Their ranked twenty third.
So the pitching staff, I'm not gonna say they've regressed
the me because, as you said, we haven't seen enough games.
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But you don't have Kirby. You know, I think everybody
thought thought that Hancock. I mean I I was one
of those guys that thought, hey, if you do trade Castillo,
you know, the the O G. Castillo, right, not not
this point, oh Castillo, if you if you take if
you trade Castillo one point, oh that okay, Hancock. Based
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on what they've done with young pitching, you'd say Hancock
is ready to be a number five. And it was
so abysmal in the eyes of the Mariners and and
in his uh one start that they don't even want
to see him again. So you know, I'm back to
square one with him. So yeah, I mean you just
wonder kind of okay, what is this pitching staff? And
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in some ways it feels like a donut the pitching staff,
because you got the you got the starters at the
beginning right there on one side, and then you got
Muonios right, But then there's kind of a hole in
the like, what are you doing in you know, seventh
and eighth innings? Sixth, seventh and eighth inning. You know
that the bullpen I think has yet to really prove
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itself in that regard. So there are some there are
some questions emerging even from this pitching staff that is
so beloved locally.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And look, I mean that's what pisses you off, right
that you just kind of feel like, what are we doing?
Like we know we're healthy right now, we know this
pitching staff is dominant right now. I'm talking about last
year in the year before that, and you do virtually
nothing over the offseason and free agency. I mean, on
its own, Hugh, I don't know what your thought was,
but on its own, getting Justin Turner getting Randy Arose
(07:38):
Arena at the deadline was fine. You know, if you're
waiting until the thirty first of July to you know,
make your baseball team significantly better, you're probably gonna be
striking out every single year. But those those two moves
at the deadline last year were fine. It was everything
else they did around it over the offseason and then
again this offseason. This is now the second off season
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in a row with this great pitching staff where they
failed to really do anything of significance to help them out,
and everyone is frustrated. Everyone is just completely you know,
the patience meter is at an all time low with
these guys. I mean, here, I walk in here to
the emeral Queen Casino, and there's a guy that I
know that works at the security desk.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
He looks at me, he says, what the hell is
wrong with the Mariners.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I mean, they've played ten games and people are just
flipping out already because they're just they're they're expecting the worst.
And you mentioned the five games out in the American
League West, which, hey, look, the goal was to win
the division. So I don't have any problem with you
bringing that up, and I think it's justified to bring
that up. The Wildcard does change things. Obviously, they're two
games out in the Wildcard, which is even like to
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be even saying that right now on April seventh is
kind of ridiculous to even quoting the wildcard race.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
It's kind of silly in April.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
But when that five in the West becomes eight or
nine and that Wildcard deficit becomes five or six, then
you start to kind of maybe have a problem. So
I don't know, it just kind of feels like this
is up pretty as as big as the series can get.
In early April on a Monday night against the Houston Astros,
this feels about as big as you can make it.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Tonight, yeah, it really does.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And you know, I think that my impression is that
maybe the offense is a little better. I mean, despite
the fact six out of ten of the games they've
they've scored three runs or less. But you know, a
year ago, the offense was four point one seven runs
per game. Now it's three point two. Seattle's twenty seventh
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in the in all of baseball in scoring, tied for
twenty seven. There's only two works now, thankfully one of
them is the Astros. But and you know Atlanta, we
know how they've just had a very unforeseen skid to
start their scuffle to start their season. But you know,
the runs, the runs aren't really there now. The pitching,
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we discussed the numbers. I don't know this team. You know,
we've got concerns about the day up rob is now.
I mean it looked like that, Okay, you got a
lead off here and and you know, sliding Julio into second, Okay,
that seems to be that makes sense, right, And yeah,
and Roblaze was, you know, leading the team in stolen bases.
You know, a guy that could create things, a little
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bit of havoc, you know, a little bit more of
a quintessential lead leadoff guy, or at least in some
of his skill set. And and now who no long
who knows how long he's out.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, well they've scored thirty two runs, the Mariners have
And this is just more symbolic than anything else. I mean,
I'll just tell you that I'm not I kind of
feel uneasy looking at stats this early in the year.
You know, one or two games can really skew an era,
or skew a batting average, or skew a team's rankings
where it comes to runs and you know, batting average
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and ops and things like that. So I almost feel
like a moron looking at numbers this or early, to
be honest with you. But the symbolism, though, is hard
to get over. They've scored thirty two runs so far
this season, Okay, nineteen of the third have come in
three games, and they've lost them all. They've lost the
game scoring six, they've lost the game scoring nine, they've
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lost the game scoring four. Like, I don't know what
the number is off the top of my head, but
it was ridiculous last year when the m scored four
runs were.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
More, they were almost unbeatable. And now they've scored runs.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
They've scored four runs or more at least three times,
I mean four times overall, but three times, and they've
let nineteen of their thirty two runs have come in
games that they've lost.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
You.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So, I mean that's just like the symbolism of that
is not lost on me. Meaning if this team starts
to score runs and they lose because their bullpen can't
hold a lead, or they're starting pitching can't get the
job done. I mean, look, if they're starting pitching, isn't there,
forget about it, forget it. We can just build this
whole thing in and start talking Seahawks all summer long.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, I mean that kind of sounds like complimentary, you
know in football, right you want to the offensive defense
want to compliment or at least be able to have
the others back. And it feels like a sibling to
you know how, going with runners in scoring position, what's
your batting average?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
What's your production?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Right? Right? You know?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Right if if, if the if the offense does give
you those games, given the strength of your your pitching
staff to have to take it, yep, I mean that
just hurts, Uh, it.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Does it does? It hurts?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
It hurts big time, you know, because I think the
fans are waiting for some excitement. They're waiting for something
to seek their teeth into. And I didn't have any
idea what the crowd's going to look like tonight, tomorrow
and Wednesday, but I assume it's not gonna be very good.
I mean, Dick and I were debating this, you know,
a week and a half ago. I mean, Jackson knows,
we had this conversation in the air about opening day,
and you know, I said, look, I've I've don't ever
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remember going to an opening day at that stadium where
there were that many empty seats in one section right field,
the upper deck and right field. HU opening day was
almost empty. Uh for that, for that, for that opener
against the Ya's. But I want to do this real quick,
just to get an update here because it is newsworthy.
Mariner general manager Justin Hollander. Hugh just a few minutes ago,
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was with the media and talked about the injury to
Victor Robless, the plan, what's going on with Matt Brash,
and more.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Check it out.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
I'll start with Victor. He's gonna go on the IL oday.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
You guys have seen Canzon one here will announced that
that's a recall for Victor's spot shortly. I don't know
any beyond that he's getting imaging done this afternoon, so
we will go a timeline after the imaging. Everything else
I would tell you would just be totally guessing, and
I don't think it's super additive. So we'll know more
in the next twenty four to thirty six hours. We
will update you when we know more. So that's Victor.
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Matt Brash is gonna throw a live VP on Wednesday
here and then we will talk about a rehab assignment
and Tacoma. At that point, I can't play how long.
It kind of depends on how he feels and what
we see with our eyes slash what the data says,
but very likely to begin a rehab assignment end of
this week.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Early next week, win Tacoma at that point, hopefully the
BP go as well on Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
To hear.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
George Kirby through a pen this weekend felt great. Go
throw a two pens this week and then begin more
of a traditional spring training type game progression.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
At that point. I don't have an exact timeline.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Some of it depends on how he feels and how
things work through the game situations that he's in. But
again he's tracking well. Anticipate the two pens going well
this week, and.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Then we'll go from there with game progression. So George
doing great.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Jackson cor is still the same timeline as he's been
on late April, early May rehab assignment. Would anticipate that
being a fairly lengthy one, just given the length of
time that he's been out, but you know, late May
or early June projecting back in activation time. Troy Taylor,
he will throw one inning either tomorrow or Wednesday. I
think it's Wednesday on the calendar, but I'll double check
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that and then we'll reassess at that point whether he
needs more rehab outings or whether he's ready to go
for activation. And Trevor Gott will start live vps this
week is where he's completed the.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Bullpen phase of two days rehab. Where about your che
this rehab since.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
I don't know yet, He'll do some work in Arizona
and then we'll see whether it makes more sense to
do an everet or Tacoma. We'll see what the weather's like.
He could end up being neither of those places if
it's bad weather. We'll just see where we go once
he gets tough the pens.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
This week with ropeless. Is the imaging just on the shoulder,
limited to just the shoulder correct? So X ray is
negative and on the front of these yeah, I mean
the MRIs will tell us more than an X ray cood,
so we will we will know more for the MRIs.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Again, I don't want to speculate on anything you have
imaging today and we'll go from there. Justin on George
as he continually hit each benchmark, and with this progression.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
He talked about maybe late a brol.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I know you want to give the tie.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Round on him, but is is he hitting all the spots.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
That he wants.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
He's hitting all the spots late April seems optimistic to me,
just given where we are on the calendar.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
But that's George is. And really the benchmarks that we
were looking for tring.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Him to hit was to feel good after his throwing sessions,
in his kind of sessions, and he feels great right now.
So again, we'll see how the two go this week
and then start moving into game situations. I don't think
it will be like a full spring training ramp up,
because he was already kind of built to that point
over the winter and into an early part.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Of the spring.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
But he does need to go real game progression. It's
not gonna be throw two innings and comes with the
big leagues, so we will will be responsible and make
sure we're checking all the boxes.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
But he does do a great so far.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
We're a really rich all right here. I don't know
about you.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
That seems like fairly decent news on Victor Robless and
the shoulder that it's just you know, contained to the shoulder.
You saw the injury yesterday walking off the field. My
first reaction is, well, he just broke his wrist, you know.
I mean he's holding his wrist, and I thought maybe
he busted his forearm or or busted his wrist, which
could have him out for a lot longer obviously, but
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shoulder problem for Victor Robless ten day, I l for him.
Ken Zone is up. George Kirby a couple of bullpen
sessions this week and they'll make a move after that,
and then Matt Brash is gonna pitch on Wednesday and
then maybe end up in triple A. By the way,
we're gonna be at the rate of ears on Friday,
so he may be down there when we're down there
as well.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
So those are the updates. A couple of things. First
of all, it's it's good news if it's not a
serious shoulder injury. Now if again an AC separation. Basically,
in simple terms, you won't see it, like to the
naked eye looking in the mirror, just looking at a guy,
not the X ray. A grade one doesn't have any deformity.
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A grade two has a slight bump, a grade three
as a big bump. And now you can see in
an X ray if you have a grade three. Trust
me from experience. I've looked at my right shoulder, my
left shoulder when they got X ray and you can see, oh,
here's the separated one. The collarbone is sticking way up.
So if it's a really serious grade three separation, even
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grade two, you can see that on an X ray. Now, hallander,
if you have that, it's not that it's a broken bone,
it's the bone is sticking up high and there's torn
ligaments associated with that. It's the ligaments that are keeping
that collarbone down that they get stretched and pain full
and weak, and what have you for me? When I
had it, I mean we seventh. I had this Grade two,
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seventh game of the season. We're playing the Rams. Come back,
we play the forty nine ers at home. Now it
gets hit again. It becomes a Grade three right then then,
and I'm still playing through all this because it's my
left shoulder, and I read the Boston Globe birds Erin's
at mass generally he says, well, his soulder can't get
any worse. It's a Grade three. Now we play the
Browns and I look at the X ray. Wait, it
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got worse. Now it's a Grade four. And I had
teammates it was. There was actually in sports shot lend it.
He said, hey, cover, put a towel over that soulder.
It was that gross in terms of how deformed it was.
So I just the question is what great is this?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Right?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Well, you know what, it was a Grade one or two.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
He won't need surgery, right, he just needs rest.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yes, yes, I'm looking at I mean, this is just
AI obviously, but I mean Grade three could be three months.
For God's sakes, you could miss the first.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Half of the year if they have surgery, the entire season.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Right, exactly, all right, We're gonna praak a lot more
to get to huston for Dick the entire week.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Mike de COURSI gonna join us.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
He's in San Antonio and around four o'clock today, and
then Matt Thomas. Hugh is a good buddy of ours.
He does a sports talks show in Houston. He's a
big Houston Cougar fan. He's gonna join us literally from
the stands at the Alamo Dome at around five thirty.
So how many King beers is he gonna have? How
many Alamo beers is he gonna have down there by
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that time? I got no idea. Jackson, you might want
to test the Dumpe system, make sure everything's working right
before we put Matt on the air at five thirty.
But he will join us, and then Bill Cruder gonna
hop on a great day to have Bill on talking
to Mariners at five o'clock. As we continue, Hugh Win
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All right, to step up.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
He's got Ted McMillan of Arizona going to the Seahawks
number eighteen.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Now, we talked about him last week right.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
On two different occasions, and Dick brought up the idea
that a couple of years ago Tep McMillan said, I
don't watch tape and don't like playing football, and that
was the first time that you and I had heard that.
My reaction was, well, why would he say that. Your
reaction is this guy's kind of a nitwit for God's sakes.
And turns out it was a couple of years ago,
which does add some context to it.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
But if you want to kind of follow up on
that and then just give.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Us your thoughts on that the Seahawks drafted TEP McMillan,
Meta comes on the air Friday said she would run
to the podium if he was on the board at
number eighteen.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
How about you. Well, first of.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
All, I went back after our initial conversation and Dick
the way he had presented, I had thought he had
said that recently, like maybe at the combine or so,
did I right?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
And I'm like, okay, that guy's a complete idiot. It
turns out he was younger as he said two years ago.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I don't think no. I went back and you know,
researched what I thought was adequately. I didn't see any
quote where he says I don't like playing football, so
and maybe he said that. In my quest, I saw
comments about how he doesn't watch tape.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
What what what?
Speaker 3 (22:10):
And the clarification would be, it's that he doesn't watch
tape by himself, separate from from what he watches with
the team. And you know when he comes to the NFL. Look,
I played with Andre Riisen. There's a guy, great player,
great freaking player, and but you know, kind of a knucklehead.
(22:32):
Mike home Grinn will tell you basically the same thing.
I would not be one bit surprised if if Andre
Risen never watches tape. I don't want to pick on Andre,
but I'm I can pick a I could say on
other guys that I played.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
On in my career.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
You're watching as a receiver, you come to work, you're
watching opponent game tape all morning before you practice in
the afternoon. So I do think for some players you
get adequate film study by what by just being in
the team meeting if you're paying attention. Now, A lot
of times those kind of guys aren't paying attention. But
that's another story. Switching gears to tep McMillan, I think
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it's really important to note this. If you take the
top thirty or I should say this, there's thirty five
guys that were targeted one hundred times or more. The
percent of being in the slot of those thirty five, again,
these are the most targeted guys, thirty five guys. Jackson
Smith and Jigbow was number one. He was in the
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slot eighty one point two percent of the time. Cooper
Cup he is number six on that list at sixty
four percent of the time. And so that what that
does is if you have guys that are more slot
receiver attributes. You know, in the case of certainly in
the case of Cooper Cup, when you as a quarterback,
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when when I see him split out wide where he's
close to the sideline and the corner is is eminem
in shadowing him, that corner is going to be a
lot faster than Cooper Cup. So that corner can play
at at a throttle down speed, which makes him a
lot quicker in and out of breaks.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Right, you got me, right?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
And what Cooper Cup's advantage is when you put him
in the slot. Now he has the mox. He has
a great feeling zone for how to idle. He has
these little moves that he makes that look like man
and man moves, but they're within his zone, a little
bit of shimmy. But he's not going against as good
an athlete. He's going against more players. You know it's
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in you know, linebackers, safety, what have you. He have
to process more, but you don't have to be as
dynamic as an athlete, at least from a speed standpoint.
So as a as a wide receiver, I am not
bullish on Cooper Cup moving forward in his career outside
and in fact, out of thirty five his his yards
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per route run when he lined up wide. I know
that's a mouthful yards per route run. As a wide receiver,
that means the widest guy in the formation generally going
against an opponent corner.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Cooper Cup was.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Twenty eight out of thirty five last year and he's
only getting a year older. Right, So I like I
still like Cooper Cup, but I do not like him outside.
If I'm a quarterback, I'm gonna go a little bit
of first person here.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Well, but hang on a second hang on just a minute.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Can I go back for a second, because if you're
saying that you don't like Cooper Cup outside, then you're
playing Cooper Cup inside. You're playing Cooper Cup inside, you're
playing Jackson Smith and Jigba on the outside. You draft
Tep McMillan, where's he playing? I mean DK metcalf is
sixty four, two thirty five, he's gone, uh, tap McMillan
sixty ford. But what two nineteen or so if you
(25:43):
draft Tap McMillan, does he become your new ex And
what does that mean for Jayson?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yes, he does, absolutely, one hundred percent. Now, JSN, he's
better in the slot than he is.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Relative to other receivers.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I would make this assertion, Jysn is a better slot
receiver than an outside receiver. But relative to Cooper Cup,
JSN is a lot better on the outside than Cooper Cup.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
I mean JSN his rookie year. Remember that the game winner.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
He had against the Eagles and right right they when
Drew Locke was quarterbacking, that was an outside fade, Like
he can win outside. Js N's a dude now, right,
But he's just a little bit more of a dude inside.
Cooper Cup, if he has any dude left in him,
is only a dude on the inside. Now, Ted McMillan,
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he had one hundred and seventeen reps in the slot
last year, five hundred and eighty eight as an outside receiver.
His size, his attributes, his skills set. Absolutely, he's the
X that's a legitimate replacement, at least on paper for
DK Metcalf. Because when I come up, let's say the
balls on the left hash and we go trips right.
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We were an eleven personnel. We got a tight end
and three receivers, and so I've got Cooper Cup in
the slot to my right, I've got JSN far out
to the right, and I've got Tech McMillan to my left.
What I'm looking to see there and they're probably going
to be an overfront where the line the line is
shifted over to the trips receiver side and the field,
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so that creates a lot of space out to the
left where I'm looking at Tet McMillan, And the first
thing I'm saying is what are you doing to the
with the nearest safety? Is the near safety going to
be in the middle of field, in which case I
got tet one on one and the weak side linebacker
in an overfront. He's got the B gap, so he's
gonna be tucked inside close to the football. So I've
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got all this this space with Tep McMillan out to
my left. The safety's in the millfield. He can't get
over the top. I got true one on one. That
means that corner. His number one concern is don't get
beat for a go route. So now he's got to
open up his hips and he's saying, whoa this dude,
Tep McMillan. He's fast, and he's big and long. He
can gup over top of me to catch a thirty
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five to forty fade route.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I better get.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I better be trying like hell to stay in phase
with him, meaning my outside shoulder is even or on
top of his inside shoulder. Now I'm in phase, but
I gotta run really fast because whoa this Tep McMillan.
He's got some speed. Now of a sudden, Tep McMillan
does a stop rap. Now people call it comebacks, different curls, digs.
There's a lot of different routes hitches at different depths,
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but they're all just in the family of stop routes. Now,
if I'm the corner, I'm running with Tep McMillan and
he does a stop route because I'm running full gate,
it takes me longer to slow down. That gives him
the separation. If I got Cooper Cup, I'm not opening
up full gate, man. I'm a BMW in like fourth
or fifth gear. I'm ready to put on the brakes immediately.
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Because he does. Cup doesn't have the speed nor the
size to scare me. McMillan does. And so that's where
the compliment of an X receiver is so vital. As
we talk about the different prospects and why I think
he's he would be more valuable McMillan than Matthew Golden
from Texas because of the style.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Well, I think there's a conversation that needs to be had.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
We can't do it now because we're up against the
break and Mike de Coursey's gonna join us from San
Antonio in about twenty minutes. Is a wide receiver room
with Jackson Smith and Jigbuck, Cooper Cup and Teed McMillan
more desirable to you when you consider the finances saved
than a wide receiver room with Tyler Lockett, DK Metcalf
and Jackson Smith and Jigba I'm gonna hit you with
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that at four thirty coming up on ninety three three KJRFM.
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Hey did you hear that? He went for Dick Faane
all week long? Hey, Hugh, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
We start in college basketball?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Hughie After Houston's comeback win over Duke Cougar's head coach,
Kelvin Sampson, a former Washington State head coach, reacting to
the win on CBS by responding to the many people
who picked Duke to beat them.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I hear what people says.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
We don't this.
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That God is great.
Speaker 9 (30:38):
John sorr is An is awesome. He don't sleep on Houston.
Those sleep on Houston. We went in thirty four and
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nineteen and one in the Big Twelve. Play in the
Big Twelve helped us all shout out.
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In my Big twelve brothers.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
All right, So you know Calvin Sampson the last three
years as one hundred and thirteen and one hundred and
thirteen games at Houston, he is kicking ass. And there
was a little video that ESPN show the year they
were when he first showed up on the job. He's
literally begging people to come watch them play basketball at Houston.
And now they're playing for the national championship for the
first time since nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
You remember where that game was, Hugh Yeah, Kingdome, Yeah, Kingdome.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Patrick ewing A, keem olajah Wan Houston versus Georgetown.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Who do you like tonight?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
By the way, Well, I'm rooting for Florida. I'm concerned
that that Condon the big man for Florida. I think
is there's a hole and it's him. I like how
the other big man. And we've got at some point
talk about Walter Clayton Junior, Like, dude, we've got to
carve a little time about him.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
That is that dude is freaking special, you know, just
real Quickly, I went.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Back and was compelled to look at Steph Curry at
Davidson's career three his last year. Curry at Davidson three
from the three point line thirty eight point seven percent,
Clayton thirty nine point two percent.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Free throw Curry was.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Eighty seven point six percent, Clayton eighty seven point eight percent. Like,
this dude is so smooth. Now, I understand we're talking
about the greatest deep shuter that ever put footprints on
planet Earth. So this's a big stretch for me. But
this dude is so smooth and he's fifty one percent
in the tournament from the three point line. This dude, Like,
(32:31):
I have not seen a guy that calm and that's
smooth in everything he does. Man, that guy is a star.
Like I haven't seen a long and he started at Iona.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
By the way, I know it.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, it's like, how the hell does a guy like
that end up at Iona? For God's sakes, man, It's
just like the NFL Draft is. Recruiting is an inexact science. Said,
But we'll get to more of that coming up. Layer
Mike de Corsi gonna join us from San Antonio next segment.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Hey, here, did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Towards the end of Yukon and they're women's national championship
blowout win over South Carolina yesterday, cameras caught an emotional
moment between head coach Gino ari Ema and his star
Page Beckers, and a press conference afterwards, Beckers was asked
about the moment between.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
The two, What was going through your head, especially as
you went down the bench, whatever you're willing to share
about that moment specifically. Uh, yeah, again, just gratitude for
all that coaches meant to me and how much she
shake me so the human I am, to the basketball
player I am throughout this entire five years, and just
(33:32):
putting it all together in one hug, what our journey
has been together. He told me he loved me, and
I told him I hated him. So but we both
love each other even though we hate each other some days.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Well that's what's gonna happen when you hang out every
day for four years. I tell you what.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Though, there is a story kind of indirectly hue between
you and Paige Beckers. We're not going to get to
that now because we got like two minutes left in
this segment. Okay, so coming up later today, we're gonna
get to that. But you've got a connection. Your son
played there, another son obviously is at Florida, So you
got some real connections to to both these schools. So
we'll get to that coming up later on, but let's
(34:11):
do a couple more before we get to the break.
And Mike de COURSI, hey, here, did you happen to
hear that that's that dick h three or four Jackson?
Which one is more important?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
You think? Let's do four? All right? This morning?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
On First Take, former NHL defender PK Subbn joined the
show to react to Alex Ovechkin breaking Wayne Gretzky's all
time scoring record. Inevitably, the interview turned to the NBA
goat debate where SUBBN stun the crew with his take.
Speaker 10 (34:37):
What Lebron's great, but he ain't Kobe, He ain't Jordan
for me. So what I'm saying is side you want
to talk about six, I'm.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Talking about Jordan.
Speaker 11 (34:54):
Black Mamba gives his credit because this is the only
snake that will attack you without provocation. But it is
not as dangerous as the top paid, is not as
dangerous of the common brown. So what are we talking
about here? John Wick kills a lot of people, but
Sody James bond.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
So what are we doing if the job gets done?
Speaker 10 (35:10):
If we're measuring greatness, it's not just about the numbers,
It's not just about the numbers and the impact on
the court for me. For me, it's situational. It's also
about the moments, rising to the moment and showing that
you are capable of influencing fear into the other team.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Okay, so here is it ridiculous in your opinion to
think that Kobe is higher on the mount Rushmore Goat
list than Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I don't think it's ridiculous. I don't think it's an
absurd take. I think it would be a minority opinion.
But I'll tell you the guy, the friend of mine
that knows most about basketball is a guy named Dave Kaylor.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Look him up.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
He was the point starting point guard for the Huskies
when they won the Pac Ten with back in the
Debt of Days. Okay, now, Alvin Vaughd got hurt, so
Dave had to fill in and we're both in one
another's wed. This guy's from Newport Beach, Southern California. Have
been a Laker fan his entire life. He's got a
great pulse on on the Lakers and what the Lakers
(36:11):
mean in that community. And he will tell you that
the vast majority of the people is say, hey, this
is not about Lebron over Michael. Is Lebron even more
than Kobe and my buddy d k Uh. He says, no,
Lebron is not Kobe and h and he'll put Kobe
in front of him. That's guy who knows this freaking
(36:32):
who way more than just about anybody you would ever
meet in a bar.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I'll tell you what we'll do next time the three
of us are together with you and Fain. You can
ask Dick his thoughts and I'm sure he'll agree with
you that Kobe is a better player than Lebron.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Get to that.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
We gotta break. We got a break. We gotta get
to a break. We gotta get to a break. We'll
discuss this more coming up. Mike the Car sat you
gonna join us from San Antonio next on ninety three
to three KJRFM.
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