April 7, 2025 • 28 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Hugh Millen chat with Mike DeCourcy about Duke’s loss, Cooper Flagg’s future, Walter Clayton’s greatness, and tonight’s title game, then the guys discuss the Seahawks wide receiver options and Tet McMillan possibility.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
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Speaker 3 (00:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
And let's face it, Huey, this is the moneymaker. This
is the big one.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
This is why we pay Mike to Corsi the big
bucks to join us from the Alamodome hours before tip
off tonight between Florida and Houston for the national title.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Mike, how are you man?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I am great? How are you tonight?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Good?
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Good?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Appreciate you doing this.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
So before we talk about tonight and the matchup with
Florida and Houston, which just has classic written all over it,
by the way, I hope that it is, let's go
back to Saturday, Duke with an unbelievable collapse against Houston.
I don't know anybody around the country with three minutes
to go that saw that coming. You were there, you
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saw it in person. What was it like to be there?
And how stunning was that to watch in person?
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Well, I think the first thing I will say is
that I started to feel it a little bit at
the four minute timeout.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I started charting.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
I had already written, of course the meat or not
the meat, but a few graphs of a column about
how Cooper Flag would be playing to become the greatest
freshman in college basketball history.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, that's where it was going.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
But at the minute mark or so, I started to
notice something that was problematic, and that was that he
stopped being aggressive on offense, and he started taking turnarounds
and fallaways.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
And step backs.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
That his last four shots from the field were with
the exception of the open three pointer he hit that
was the only basket do kid in the final ten minutes,
all of his all of his plays in and around
the lane were away from contact. And I started to
get a little concerned about that. But I will tell
you that because of the nature of the lead, uh
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and the and the amount of the lead that it
wasn't until Tyree's Proctor went to the free throw line
with nineteen seconds left or whatever it was that I thought, Oh,
they're going to lose this, Because when Proctor went up there,
I knew they were in trouble.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I could see.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
I could see that he was not going to make
the front end it is, it was just in the air.
I thought it was a really poor decision that he
made to a first of all, to stop with the
basketball when they had a numbers advanced. See see whether
you can get filed and get a real opportunity at
the line, because they there, it would have been a
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two shot file instead of a one on one.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
See if you could dribble into the corner kill some
more time.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
See if you could get the ball to a better
shooter as a free throw shooter, like if I'm if
I am at that point, I'm I an eagle. I
know what Tyree's propor shoots from the file line if
I'm the beat person on that, but I didn't know
sitting there.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I didn't need to know.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
But as soon as he's filed, okay, once he shoot
sixty seven sixty eight from the foul line, that's not
good enough not to take those shots. You got konk
Nippel over there shooting eighty plus. Why would you not
get the ball in his hands?
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Right?
Speaker 6 (03:41):
But he wanted, he wanted the shot, but then he
went to the line and he didn't want the shot.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
You could see it, No.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
You could see the moment was too big for him.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
He missed all three of his shots in the second
half from the field only had seven points. He just
kind of looked, you know, just like he wasn't ready
for it. But back to flag and his lack of regress.
And yes, he missed four of his last five shots.
But consider this, because I think there's been some nasty
memes that's been going around the internet about this guy
not being clutched. He's eighteen years old and three and
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a half months when Kobe Bryant was now that was
in the NBA, But when he was eighteen years old
and nine months he had four air balls in the
fourth quarter and overtime in a closeout loss in a
series to the Utah Jazz. This is a young guy
that played eleven games this season as a seventeen year
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old and as we know, reclassified. Like the idea that
this guy isn't a clutch player or won't be a
clutch player is absurd based on the fact that in
a tough moment, when the moment is as big as
it can be, you know, he didn't come through. But
that doesn't reflect on his career in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, well, Mike, Mike, Mike. You saw what Skip Bayless
said on social media yesterday.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, it's not a serious opinion. It's a look at
me opinion. But that's not that. Look the young man.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
First of all, one of the reasons why they were
where they were, I mean maybe the biggest reason is
he is who he is.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
He is phenomenal. You can't make a decision based on it.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Like, Okay, so when he was at when he was
in high school, they won the national championship.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Does that not count toward his.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Clutch, his clutch circumstances, they won the ACC Championship regular
season the look he had difficult circumstances in the Clemson game,
the Kentucky game.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
In this game, I thought that that he made the
wrong decision in there.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
But they didn't put him in a good position either,
because they allowed him to go one on one with
Houston's best big defender.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Well, why not try to get a switch? Why not
try to get an advantage?
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Why honestly, the step back is the right shot in
that circumstance, if that's how you're going to play it,
because you have to get away from from Jay One Roberts,
you don't have any choice.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I thought that I thought that he was not given
a good assignment there. I thought that they should have
done a big to big.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Screen, or even a small to big screen so that
he could get maybe a matchup advantage and shoot over somebody.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
But they just let him dribble it down.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
And of course, if you leave Jay One Roberts as
his primary defender, the only choice he has is to
try to clear.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Space by going backward.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
And that's exactly what you don't want, and that's why
they should have run some kind of screen for him
so that they could force they could force Houston to
make a decision in that circumstance.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Well, Mike DECURSI is with us.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
He's in San Antonio at the Alamo Dome, getting ready
for Florida and Houston coming up. Tip off around five
point fifty or so. I never know exactly, Mike, what
time tip off is, because you know, depending on what
you're reading, you're getting pregame shows, you're getting national anthem.
I want to know, do you know exactly what time
the tip off is tonight?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Tell me.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
I will tell you how I was asked by my
wife what time is tip off? And I said, I
have no idea. I just know I'm going to be a.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Try You'll be there. Well, but let's let's go back
one more flag.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Does the does the game Saturday increase, decrease, or have
no bearing whatsoever on maybe the long shot possibility that
he could return to Duke for one more year.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I never thought he was going to do it.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
And if that happens, okay, So we've had our I
saw a uniform moment, I saw the two fairy moment.
It's He's it's just impossible to turn down it's not like,
first of all, he's very well offer an eighteen year old.
I mean, he's got the Gatorade stuff and the AT
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and T stuff. He's made a lot of money already,
and certainly Duke could provide him with a bunch of
money next year, but they can't offer him a four
year with a fifty year option.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I think it's.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Around twenty million now something like that for the one overall.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
You can't offer them that.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
If he came back and played next year, he could
get insurance for some of that, but it's not the
same as if you do have to cash that insurance
and you have to.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Really get hurt bad to cash it. So I just
thought it.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Just seems impossible for me for him to come back
and play next year. I'd love to see it because
I love watching him in the NBA and only see
him in the playoffs, and who knows how long whoever
picks him is good, it's going to.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Be before he gets in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
I don't have time to watch much NBA between November
one and April eighth, so that's selfishly, I'd love to
see him play more because I love watching him play.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
Mike de Coursey with us talking all things Final four. Mike,
let's talk about tonight and got to get your thoughts
on Walter Clayton Junior. I compared his both his three
point and his free throw percentage. They're basically mirror what
Steph Curry was at Davidson. Not saying that he's Steph
Curry obviously, but this dude has been like another level
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over fifty one percent from three point during the tournament.
What's your impressions of this guy and what what do
you foresee him in the future.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
He as someone who's done this for forty years.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
I mean, there are guys out here who are better
at breaking stories and this and that. But one thing
I've always been pretty good at is I've always had
a pretty good eye for talent.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I mean, no one bats a thousand in that menu,
but I've always had a pretty good eye.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
I think it goes back to Sunny Vaccaro having the
Round Ball Classic in Pittsburgh when I was a kid,
and so I got a pretty early exposure to what
the great players looked like. And when I went to
see I was in Raleigh for the first round, so
my first time getting at see Walter in person and
I watched him play a half, and so I tweeted out,
I said, can someone please explain to me why no
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one thinks this guy's.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
A first round pick.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
I mean, he just is a player, and he is
not like he's not the most dynamic athlete on the planet.
But he gets up off the floor pretty well. He's
not super long, so he's not going to be come
Gary Payton.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
But the guy can play.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
He knows how to play. He has a great feel
for offense. I don't think he is Jalen Brunston. Don't
get me wrong. Jalen Brunson was a better college basketball
player than Walter is, and I think he was a
better pro prospect at the time. But I told everybody
at the time, you pass on Jalen Brunson, the guy's
gonna be a baller. I'm not saying I didn't know
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he was going to be this like one of the
ten or twelve best players, but I knew he was
gonna be significant.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
He was too good.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
And I don't think Walter Clayton's going to be one
of the ten or twelve best players, but I think
he could start for a lot of teams in the league.
I think he get it worse to be a backup
combo guard. And I know that there are gonna be
players who are taken ahead of him in this draft,
unless he all of a sudden gets taken in the
top fifteen, if he's taken anywhere from twenty five beyond,
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there will be multiple players taken ahead of him who
don't score as many career points as he does.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah, well again, joining us in San Antonio courtesy of
Northwest Handling Systems before tonight's national championship. And there's a
couple of fans in Seattle, more than a couple that
are rooting for Kelvin Sampson because they remember his Washington
State days with the other Cougars by the way back
in the day on the puloose. But from a coaching
matchup perspective, I mean Calvin Sampson's sixty nine Todd Golden's
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thirty nine.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Who's got the coaching advantage tonight?
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Well, I think that when you get into these circumstances,
you saw what Kelvin's advantage was. Its advantage is basically
his guys and what he gets his guys to do.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I'll tell you this back in I don't hope.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
I don't didn't tell you the story a week ago,
but back when I was covering Memphis, I remember like
being in a hotel room late at night, getting back
from having covered a game on deadline and turning on
a television. It's like eleven thirty eleven fifty at night
or whatever, and I turn on the TV and Washington
State's playing.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I don't know some team in the.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Pac twelve cal or whoever, and I don't know anything
about the Cougars, and I don't know anything really about
Kelvin at that point, but I know a team that
plays hard when I see it, and that team was
playing harder than anybody I've.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Seen in a long time.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
And that made me realize that Kelvin was special at
that moment.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
And I talked to him when we named.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Our Coach of the Year this year, and it was
really cool that he told me this story. He was
at Montana Tech and he was like twenty five whatever
he was when he got hired, and he said he
looked around the league and there's all these older guys
that know how to coach, and he barely knew anything.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
He grew up with his dad as a coach, but
he had never done.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
It, and he said he looked at all the different
things that they were good at. He said, the one
thing I know I can do is I can get
my guys.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
To play harder.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
And here we are, now what forty years later, and
he still does it better than anybody. And I talked
to his son Kellen the other day in the locker room,
and I said, you know when I was doing when
I was covering Bob Huggins at Cincinnati, I know that
their guys played hard, mostly because it was easier to
do that than to listen to him yell at you
all the time. And I asked him if that was
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part of it for them, and he said that it
wasn't necessarily. That's kind of where it starts, but by
the end, you're doing it because you love the guy
and you want to make him happy, kind of like
you know, you don't do dumb stuff when you're a teenager,
do as little as dumb stuff as possible because you
want to make your parents proud and happy, And it's
like that for them.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
They love playing for him and they want to make
him proud.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Final minutes with Michael to COURSEI and Mike what do
you see for tonight in terms of what's pivotal? Is
there a matchup that you think favors the Cougars or
the Gators. I'm rooting for Florida, so I'm a little
concerned about Alex Condon. I thought Johnny Groom really exposed him.
But is there something you see either schematically or from
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a matchup personnel matchup standpoint tonight.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
I agree with you about the damage he did to
Alex in the first half, which and I did in
the first half. But I thought there was an interesting
point in the in the beginning of the second half.
Conan had been such a wreck in the first half,
and he came out and the start of the second
half and threw the ball over the end line with
just unforced and missed a rebounder whatever something like that.
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And I turned to Pat Forty from Sports Illustrated, and
I said, how much longer can they afford this?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
How much?
Speaker 6 (14:27):
And then like sixteen seconds later, they had Thomas House
up to go in for Condon, So they knew that
they need more. First of all, they need more Thomas howse,
his minutes.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Got to be up. They got like he's got to
play close to thirty.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
I think ballpark thirty he averages twenty or low twenties.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I think today it's got to be different.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
The second part of that, though, is that down the
stretch they played Condon and how which is away from
their typical approach. Now, whether that that was specific to
Broom and Auburn, I will say that it reflects that
at least they thought Condon was compared heeaditive defensively down
the stretch, and he stopped blundering on offense, So that
was good. But they might need to be bigger and
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stronger inside tonight than they needed to be on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
We'll see.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
But that's something to watch for, is that Condon did
play well enough that that in a game they were
leading and they wanted to keep the lead, that they
didn't feel like they needed to keep him locked to
the bench, that they could play him and trust him right.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Well, Houston to San Antonio is about three hour drive
by the way, so I'm assuming there's going to be
a lot of red and white in the building. I
know Florida fans also travel very well. I'm assuming all
the bars, a lot of them, are packed with Cougar
fans down there. So we're at the Emeral Queen casino.
I don't know if you feel like giving any gambling
advice out. It's not such a taboo anymore, Mike, by
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the way, as it was maybe a couple of years ago.
But at the Emeral Queen, Florida's given a point and
a half. And I did see a stat just a
second ago. This is the fifth time that two number
one seeds that both won their conference tournaments. I've met
for the national Championship, and the first four games all
of them were single digits. So Vegas thinks it'll be
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a close game. I think it'll be a close game.
Who are you taking the night and why?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Basically, the only difference between me and Vegas is that
I would I would make it a pick because I
just don't. I have no idea really strongly about this game.
Because on the one hand, you have Florida with relatively
more talent, probably one to two first round picks on
their team.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Remember this number, nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
No team has won a championship, the NCAA Championship without
a first round pick in their rotation all the way
to last one was eighty seven. Steve Afford was like
the twenty sixth pick. A friend of mine in Carolina,
David Glenn, points out that you go all the way
back to the start of the draft, which is in
the sixties, and no team without a top thirty pick,
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so that brings offered because he went like twenty six overall.
So no team without a top thirty pick has won it.
And so is milos Uzan Is he he might be.
That's the only guy on Houston that I look at
and say, I think he can get up there. I
talked to an NBA personnel exec today who said that's
the one guy on their team that maybe but not
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a definite.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
He'd have to really do some things. So the history
says Florida. What I seen over and over.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
And over again says Houston because they are so competitive.
But I'm gonna go I'm going to go with the
history and I'm gonna save Florida.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
But I'm also going to save for everybody's listening.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Yeah, don't go on my advice because it's just too
hard to call.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
I would say, you know what, bet on.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
The Mariners tomorrow or something like that, and just enjoy
the game tonight because it's so hard to call.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, don't bet the kids college fun, maybe just the
summer campus line, maybe maybe a couple of weekends.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
All right, here, here's here's the idea. You bet, you
bet that, you bet what you would have spent to take.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Your significant other out to dinner and say, sorry, honey,
but we lost this dinner.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
We're gonna have to eat at home this weekend.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
That's right, and you're cooking? All right?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Man, Hey, good stuff. I know it's a crazy time
of day to join us. We appreciate this, and uh
let's do well, let's do one more visit in a week.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
All right and wrap this whole thing up. Man, appreciate this.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I would love that guy.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Thank all right, man, good stuff. Mike de Corsi one
of the best men. He's a Hall of Famer, Sporting News,
Big ten Network. He is in San Antonio at the
Alamodome getting ready for Houston and Florida. All right, so
we can give our thoughts. By the way, who do
I know you're rooting for Florida because your kids down there.
We'll talk more about that coming up.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Ember.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Queen's got that point and a half for the Gators
tonight in San Antonio. I do want to go back
to football, because we teased this earlier in the show.
The draft is two weeks from Thursday. Does a wide
receiver room of Cooper Cup, Jackson Smith and Jigba and
Ted McMillan plus the cap savings turn you on a
little bit more than a wide receiver room with DK Metcalf,
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Tyler Lockett in, Jackson Smith and Jigba. We'll get a
huge thoughts on that next on ninety three three kJ RFM.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
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Speaker 3 (19:11):
All Right, boys and girls, we're back here at the
embra Quei Casino, Florida and Houston for the National Championship.
We got more on that in a matter of minutes.
But uh, Hugh Millan in for Dick Faye. In the
entire week, by the way, a lot of draft chatter,
a lot of football chatter coming.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
The draft is two weeks from Thursday. Going to be
at the vMac for that one.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
But Hugh, I asked you about an hour ago, and
I want to get your thoughts on this because lan Zerline,
our buddy from NFL network, NFL dot com has Tet
McMillan mocked to the Seahawks and number eighteen. So what
what what option would you prefer? Option A DK Metcalf,
Tyler Lockett, Jackson Smith and Jigba or Option B Cooper
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Cup for half of what the Steelers are paying DK Metcalf,
Jackson Smith and Jigba and a rookie In Tet McMillan,
you picked one and one room only.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Which one do you want?
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Well, given how they've used DK metcalf, I could be
talked into the fresh group.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
You know.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
First of all, I think JSNU next year is gonna
be better than JASN last year. All right, So that's okay.
I think that Cooper Cup is I think he's a
little bit better than Tyler Lockett. He'll be better next
year than Tyler Lockett would have been. And uh and
then as far as you can't say a rookie's gonna
come in here and do what Dk Metcalf did, I mean,
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you know, the guy signed thirty three million dollar contract.
I will say one thing that's drive me crazy as
it pertains to Tet McMillan, that what's happened to the team.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I didn't hear a word he said, Jackson, did you
get that?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
By the way, no, I'll try to reget him.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Okay, it's it literally sounded like somebody took an M
eight to his connection and blew his whole connection up.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
What has happen?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
They get him back on the air and ask him
what the hells are going on there? Because I could
not hear any of that there. But Hugh Millin's with us.
He'll be with us in a matter of seconds. Okay, Hugh,
whatever you were asking that, we didn't get that, so
can you please repeat it?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Oh we had him, We had him in a second ago.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Don't have him. This is kind of becoming a little
bit of a consistent thing, by the way, at least
with this time of the day. Whatever his internet plan is,
it might only work between the hours of like nine
am and four point thirty pm, because it seems to
happen at the same freaking time every damn day that
he's on with us, and he's gonna be on with
us all week long, so we may have to fix that.
But I'm curious what the Texters think four nine four
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five one. Which wide receiver group do you prefer and
I'm actually surprised that Hugh would even consider the group
that did not involve DK metcalf.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
You do we have you again?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
By the way, you're there, all right, I can hear
you laughing. So finish your thought. You were about to
go off on something or something?
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Yeah, on reporting the state of reporting in if you
on the Google and you say and you say ted
McMillan says he doesn't like football, or Google's something like that.
There are all kinds of headlines that come up. He said,
where said the main headline says he doesn't watch football,
And then there's other ones where he's a few of
them that say several of them say he doesn't like football.
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He says he doesn't like football. But then when you
click on it, you can't find it in a quote nowhere,
I mean, story after story, you cannot find it in
a quote. And by the way, even if he said
he didn't like football, does he mean he doesn't like
watching like pro football? Just hey, I'm not an NFL fan,
or he doesn't does he mean he doesn't like playing football?
If he says he doesn't like playing football, that's a
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big problem. It's a little problem. If he says he
doesn't like watching football, because most great players like watching football.
But you know what, hey, David, you remember what was
the biggest knock on Miles Garrett coming out of college
at what was the biggest not on lazy?
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Yeah? And and the question of how important is football team?
Speaker 7 (23:02):
Remember that he was he was into all kinds of
hobbies and other things, and and that was like a
legit question, how much does he really love football?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Right?
Speaker 7 (23:11):
And and look at that he's been as dominant in
the last seven or eight years as any player on
the defensive side of the football in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
But that that that's probably a little bit of an
outlier though, Hugh. I think in general terms, if you
heard that the guy was lazy and didn't like football,
you would probably shy away from him. I mean, what
was the what was the criticism of Malik McDowell, Right,
He was lazy?
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Right? And I never heard lazy.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I never heard lazy about Malik McDowell.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no,
I'm talking about for yeah, for sure, Malik McDowell.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
I'm just saying I don't remember.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
What my my recollection of the Miles Garrett narrative, should
he be the number one pick coming out of a
and m was how important is football to him? And
he had at some point he had said he has
other interests and you know, he likes poetry or whatever
the hell he said he liked. And and so there
was some question about his burning competitiveness. Is he does
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he have a burning desire to be great? Yes, you know,
when you compare him, put him on the Michael Jordan
or the or the Mamba scale, where where you know
there's ferocious competitors. It was thought that Miles Garrett is
well down the scale on that burning competitor list.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
And now he ended up going number one overall.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
But that was not a slam dunk fade, a complete
type of a of a of a pick. And so
at any event, I think you just got to wade
through this. But getting back to my my beef, I
think the reporting is horrible. Here's this, Here's what I
would say. If Ted McMillan has a quote about this,
put the damn thing in quotation marks and let the
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subheading reflect exactly what he said in the quotation marks.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
They He's why we have quotation marks. I want to
hear his exact word for word quote.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I do think that, first of all, it's totally fair.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
And look, I mean, I apologize because he did not
say what I thought he said, So I'm I'm actually
glad he did not say that because I think the
odds while still a long shot. I mean, the odds
of landing any one player with one particular pick of
the draft is always a long shot to begin with.
But I'd say the odds of the Seahawks getting Ted
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McMillan today are stronger than they were a month ago
after the DK Metcalf trade, and he.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Could end up with Sealock.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I don't want to have a guy that's getting drafted
by the team that you know, we went after for
being an idiot and saying doesn't like football and doesn't
watch tape. So I'm glad that that stuff isn't true
number one. And I do think the context of watching
tape with your teammates versus watching tape by yourself, I
agree with you, it is different. I would like to
have a tape junkie, a film junkie. I mean, what
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was the big criticism of Kyler Murray so much to
a point where the Cardinals wanted it contract that they
had to watch film, right, So I think we like
guys that watch film.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
We like guys that love football.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
So if Tech McMillan ends up with Seahawk, I'm glad
that we cleared this up.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
There's a difference between a quarterback and a wide receiver
in that regard. Yes, if you told me that Cooper
Cup was a film junkie, I would believe it, and
I would say that absolutely helps his football IQ. And
and for an outside receiver, I can even break this
down granular. It is more important for an inside receiver
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to be a film junkie than an outside receiver to
be a film junkie, because you're if you're an.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Outside receiver and what did you say?
Speaker 7 (26:39):
It was five e eight to one seventeen the Raco
outside the inside at Arizona. You're looking at the corners
and you're just saying, okay, you know, are they off?
Are they press? How do they press? How aggressive are
they at the line? What's their footworks? Are they you
know they press bail?
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Are they kneel? Knees in?
Speaker 7 (26:55):
You're looking at that corner, that technique and that that
primarily and the the receiver coach is telling you, hey,
this is the percent. You know they're a Cover three team,
they're a Cover four team. There that you know they
play expect Cover two on these downs. Like there's a
there's a a baseline borderline. I say, I should say
there should be a floor on your studying if you're
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a receiver above which it just it can make you better.
And if that, if that makes you feel more comfortable
than fine. But I do think that for a wide receiver,
particularly an outside wide receiver, you can get the baseline
just being in your meeting room. You don't have to do.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Extra if you're a talented player. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yep, totally. It's gonna break a little textimonials for you.
Four nine, four five one, get your thoughts on tonight's game,
your thoughts on the question of which wide receiver room
you prefer, all that and more. Bill Krueger, you know
Billy Huey, He's gonna join us cover five. I think
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Speaker 3 (00:54):
This is why we pay Mike to Corsi the big
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off tonight between Florida and Houston for the national title.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Mike, how are you man?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I am great? How are you tonight?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Good?
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Good?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Appreciate you doing this.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
So before we talk about tonight and the matchup with
Florida and Houston, which just has classic written all over it,
by the way, I hope that it is, let's go
back to Saturday, Duke with an unbelievable collapse against Houston.
I don't know anybody around the country with three minutes
to go that saw that coming. You were there, you
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saw it in person. What was it like to be there?
And how stunning was that to watch in person?
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Well, I think the first thing I will say is
that I started to feel it a little bit at
the four minute timeout.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I started charting.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
I had already written, of course the meat or not
the meat, but a few graphs of a column about
how Cooper Flag would be playing to become the greatest
freshman in college basketball history.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, that's where it was going.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
But at the minute mark or so, I started to
notice something that was problematic, and that was that he
stopped being aggressive on offense, and he started taking turnarounds
and fallaways.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
And step backs.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
That his last four shots from the field were with
the exception of the open three pointer he hit that
was the only basket do kid in the final ten minutes,
all of his all of his plays in and around
the lane were away from contact. And I started to
get a little concerned about that. But I will tell
you that because of the nature of the lead, uh
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and the and the amount of the lead that it
wasn't until Tyree's Proctor went to the free throw line
with nineteen seconds left or whatever it was that I thought, Oh,
they're going to lose this, Because when Proctor went up there,
I knew they were in trouble.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I could see.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
I could see that he was not going to make
the front end it is, it was just in the air.
I thought it was a really poor decision that he
made to a first of all, to stop with the
basketball when they had a numbers advanced. See see whether
you can get filed and get a real opportunity at
the line, because they there, it would have been a
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two shot file instead of a one on one.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
See if you could dribble into the corner kill some
more time.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
See if you could get the ball to a better
shooter as a free throw shooter, like if I'm if
I am at that point, I'm I an eagle. I
know what Tyree's propor shoots from the file line if
I'm the beat person on that, but I didn't know
sitting there.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I didn't need to know.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
But as soon as he's filed, okay, once he shoot
sixty seven sixty eight from the foul line, that's not
good enough not to take those shots. You got konk
Nippel over there shooting eighty plus. Why would you not
get the ball in his hands?
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Right?
Speaker 6 (03:41):
But he wanted, he wanted the shot, but then he
went to the line and he didn't want the shot.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
You could see it, No.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
You could see the moment was too big for him.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
He missed all three of his shots in the second
half from the field only had seven points. He just
kind of looked, you know, just like he wasn't ready
for it. But back to flag and his lack of regress.
And yes, he missed four of his last five shots.
But consider this, because I think there's been some nasty
memes that's been going around the internet about this guy
not being clutched. He's eighteen years old and three and
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a half months when Kobe Bryant was now that was
in the NBA, But when he was eighteen years old
and nine months he had four air balls in the
fourth quarter and overtime in a closeout loss in a
series to the Utah Jazz. This is a young guy
that played eleven games this season as a seventeen year
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old and as we know, reclassified. Like the idea that
this guy isn't a clutch player or won't be a
clutch player is absurd based on the fact that in
a tough moment, when the moment is as big as
it can be, you know, he didn't come through. But
that doesn't reflect on his career in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, well, Mike, Mike, Mike. You saw what Skip Bayless
said on social media yesterday.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, it's not a serious opinion. It's a look at
me opinion. But that's not that. Look the young man.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
First of all, one of the reasons why they were
where they were, I mean maybe the biggest reason is
he is who he is.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
He is phenomenal. You can't make a decision based on it.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Like, Okay, so when he was at when he was
in high school, they won the national championship.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Does that not count toward his.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Clutch, his clutch circumstances, they won the ACC Championship regular
season the look he had difficult circumstances in the Clemson game,
the Kentucky game.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
In this game, I thought that that he made the
wrong decision in there.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
But they didn't put him in a good position either,
because they allowed him to go one on one with
Houston's best big defender.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Well, why not try to get a switch? Why not
try to get an advantage?
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Why honestly, the step back is the right shot in
that circumstance, if that's how you're going to play it,
because you have to get away from from Jay One Roberts,
you don't have any choice.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I thought that I thought that he was not given
a good assignment there. I thought that they should have
done a big to big.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Screen, or even a small to big screen so that
he could get maybe a matchup advantage and shoot over somebody.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
But they just let him dribble it down.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
And of course, if you leave Jay One Roberts as
his primary defender, the only choice he has is to
try to clear.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Space by going backward.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
And that's exactly what you don't want, and that's why
they should have run some kind of screen for him
so that they could force they could force Houston to
make a decision in that circumstance.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Well, Mike DECURSI is with us.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
He's in San Antonio at the Alamo Dome, getting ready
for Florida and Houston coming up. Tip off around five
point fifty or so. I never know exactly, Mike, what
time tip off is, because you know, depending on what
you're reading, you're getting pregame shows, you're getting national anthem.
I want to know, do you know exactly what time
the tip off is tonight?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Tell me.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
I will tell you how I was asked by my
wife what time is tip off? And I said, I
have no idea. I just know I'm going to be a.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Try You'll be there. Well, but let's let's go back
one more flag.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Does the does the game Saturday increase, decrease, or have
no bearing whatsoever on maybe the long shot possibility that
he could return to Duke for one more year.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I never thought he was going to do it.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
And if that happens, okay, So we've had our I
saw a uniform moment, I saw the two fairy moment.
It's He's it's just impossible to turn down it's not like,
first of all, he's very well offer an eighteen year old.
I mean, he's got the Gatorade stuff and the AT
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and T stuff. He's made a lot of money already,
and certainly Duke could provide him with a bunch of
money next year, but they can't offer him a four
year with a fifty year option.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I think it's.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Around twenty million now something like that for the one overall.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
You can't offer them that.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
If he came back and played next year, he could
get insurance for some of that, but it's not the
same as if you do have to cash that insurance
and you have to.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Really get hurt bad to cash it. So I just
thought it.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Just seems impossible for me for him to come back
and play next year. I'd love to see it because
I love watching him in the NBA and only see
him in the playoffs, and who knows how long whoever
picks him is good, it's going to.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Be before he gets in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
I don't have time to watch much NBA between November
one and April eighth, so that's selfishly, I'd love to
see him play more because I love watching him play.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
Mike de Coursey with us talking all things Final four. Mike,
let's talk about tonight and got to get your thoughts
on Walter Clayton Junior. I compared his both his three
point and his free throw percentage. They're basically mirror what
Steph Curry was at Davidson. Not saying that he's Steph
Curry obviously, but this dude has been like another level
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over fifty one percent from three point during the tournament.
What's your impressions of this guy and what what do
you foresee him in the future.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
He as someone who's done this for forty years.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
I mean, there are guys out here who are better
at breaking stories and this and that. But one thing
I've always been pretty good at is I've always had
a pretty good eye for talent.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I mean, no one bats a thousand in that menu,
but I've always had a pretty good eye.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
I think it goes back to Sunny Vaccaro having the
Round Ball Classic in Pittsburgh when I was a kid,
and so I got a pretty early exposure to what
the great players looked like. And when I went to
see I was in Raleigh for the first round, so
my first time getting at see Walter in person and
I watched him play a half, and so I tweeted out,
I said, can someone please explain to me why no
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one thinks this guy's.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
A first round pick.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
I mean, he just is a player, and he is
not like he's not the most dynamic athlete on the planet.
But he gets up off the floor pretty well. He's
not super long, so he's not going to be come
Gary Payton.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
But the guy can play.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
He knows how to play. He has a great feel
for offense. I don't think he is Jalen Brunston. Don't
get me wrong. Jalen Brunson was a better college basketball
player than Walter is, and I think he was a
better pro prospect at the time. But I told everybody
at the time, you pass on Jalen Brunson, the guy's
gonna be a baller. I'm not saying I didn't know
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he was going to be this like one of the
ten or twelve best players, but I knew he was
gonna be significant.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
He was too good.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
And I don't think Walter Clayton's going to be one
of the ten or twelve best players, but I think
he could start for a lot of teams in the league.
I think he get it worse to be a backup
combo guard. And I know that there are gonna be
players who are taken ahead of him in this draft,
unless he all of a sudden gets taken in the
top fifteen, if he's taken anywhere from twenty five beyond,
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there will be multiple players taken ahead of him who
don't score as many career points as he does.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah, well again, joining us in San Antonio courtesy of
Northwest Handling Systems before tonight's national championship. And there's a
couple of fans in Seattle, more than a couple that
are rooting for Kelvin Sampson because they remember his Washington
State days with the other Cougars by the way back
in the day on the puloose. But from a coaching
matchup perspective, I mean Calvin Sampson's sixty nine Todd Golden's
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thirty nine.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Who's got the coaching advantage tonight?
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Well, I think that when you get into these circumstances,
you saw what Kelvin's advantage was. Its advantage is basically
his guys and what he gets his guys to do.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I'll tell you this back in I don't hope.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
I don't didn't tell you the story a week ago,
but back when I was covering Memphis, I remember like
being in a hotel room late at night, getting back
from having covered a game on deadline and turning on
a television. It's like eleven thirty eleven fifty at night
or whatever, and I turn on the TV and Washington
State's playing.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I don't know some team in the.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Pac twelve cal or whoever, and I don't know anything
about the Cougars, and I don't know anything really about
Kelvin at that point, but I know a team that
plays hard when I see it, and that team was
playing harder than anybody I've.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Seen in a long time.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
And that made me realize that Kelvin was special at
that moment.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
And I talked to him when we named.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Our Coach of the Year this year, and it was
really cool that he told me this story. He was
at Montana Tech and he was like twenty five whatever
he was when he got hired, and he said he
looked around the league and there's all these older guys
that know how to coach, and he barely knew anything.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
He grew up with his dad as a coach, but
he had never done.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
It, and he said he looked at all the different
things that they were good at. He said, the one
thing I know I can do is I can get
my guys.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
To play harder.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
And here we are, now what forty years later, and
he still does it better than anybody. And I talked
to his son Kellen the other day in the locker room,
and I said, you know when I was doing when
I was covering Bob Huggins at Cincinnati, I know that
their guys played hard, mostly because it was easier to
do that than to listen to him yell at you
all the time. And I asked him if that was
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part of it for them, and he said that it
wasn't necessarily. That's kind of where it starts, but by
the end, you're doing it because you love the guy
and you want to make him happy, kind of like
you know, you don't do dumb stuff when you're a teenager,
do as little as dumb stuff as possible because you
want to make your parents proud and happy, And it's
like that for them.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
They love playing for him and they want to make
him proud.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Final minutes with Michael to COURSEI and Mike what do
you see for tonight in terms of what's pivotal? Is
there a matchup that you think favors the Cougars or
the Gators. I'm rooting for Florida, so I'm a little
concerned about Alex Condon. I thought Johnny Groom really exposed him.
But is there something you see either schematically or from
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a matchup personnel matchup standpoint tonight.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
I agree with you about the damage he did to
Alex in the first half, which and I did in
the first half. But I thought there was an interesting
point in the in the beginning of the second half.
Conan had been such a wreck in the first half,
and he came out and the start of the second
half and threw the ball over the end line with
just unforced and missed a rebounder whatever something like that.
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And I turned to Pat Forty from Sports Illustrated, and
I said, how much longer can they afford this?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
How much?
Speaker 6 (14:27):
And then like sixteen seconds later, they had Thomas House
up to go in for Condon, So they knew that
they need more. First of all, they need more Thomas howse,
his minutes.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Got to be up. They got like he's got to
play close to thirty.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
I think ballpark thirty he averages twenty or low twenties.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I think today it's got to be different.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
The second part of that, though, is that down the
stretch they played Condon and how which is away from
their typical approach. Now, whether that that was specific to
Broom and Auburn, I will say that it reflects that
at least they thought Condon was compared heeaditive defensively down
the stretch, and he stopped blundering on offense, So that
was good. But they might need to be bigger and
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stronger inside tonight than they needed to be on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
We'll see.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
But that's something to watch for, is that Condon did
play well enough that that in a game they were
leading and they wanted to keep the lead, that they
didn't feel like they needed to keep him locked to
the bench, that they could play him and trust him right.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Well, Houston to San Antonio is about three hour drive
by the way, so I'm assuming there's going to be
a lot of red and white in the building. I
know Florida fans also travel very well. I'm assuming all
the bars, a lot of them, are packed with Cougar
fans down there. So we're at the Emeral Queen casino.
I don't know if you feel like giving any gambling
advice out. It's not such a taboo anymore, Mike, by
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the way, as it was maybe a couple of years ago.
But at the Emeral Queen, Florida's given a point and
a half. And I did see a stat just a
second ago. This is the fifth time that two number
one seeds that both won their conference tournaments. I've met
for the national Championship, and the first four games all
of them were single digits. So Vegas thinks it'll be
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a close game. I think it'll be a close game.
Who are you taking the night and why?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Basically, the only difference between me and Vegas is that
I would I would make it a pick because I
just don't. I have no idea really strongly about this game.
Because on the one hand, you have Florida with relatively
more talent, probably one to two first round picks on
their team.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Remember this number, nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
No team has won a championship, the NCAA Championship without
a first round pick in their rotation all the way
to last one was eighty seven. Steve Afford was like
the twenty sixth pick. A friend of mine in Carolina,
David Glenn, points out that you go all the way
back to the start of the draft, which is in
the sixties, and no team without a top thirty pick,
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so that brings offered because he went like twenty six overall.
So no team without a top thirty pick has won it.
And so is milos Uzan Is he he might be.
That's the only guy on Houston that I look at
and say, I think he can get up there. I
talked to an NBA personnel exec today who said that's
the one guy on their team that maybe but not
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a definite.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
He'd have to really do some things. So the history
says Florida. What I seen over and over.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
And over again says Houston because they are so competitive.
But I'm gonna go I'm going to go with the
history and I'm gonna save Florida.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
But I'm also going to save for everybody's listening.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Yeah, don't go on my advice because it's just too
hard to call.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
I would say, you know what, bet on.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
The Mariners tomorrow or something like that, and just enjoy
the game tonight because it's so hard to call.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, don't bet the kids college fun, maybe just the
summer campus line, maybe maybe a couple of weekends.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
All right, here, here's here's the idea. You bet, you
bet that, you bet what you would have spent to take.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Your significant other out to dinner and say, sorry, honey,
but we lost this dinner.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
We're gonna have to eat at home this weekend.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
That's right, and you're cooking? All right?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Man, Hey, good stuff. I know it's a crazy time
of day to join us. We appreciate this, and uh
let's do well, let's do one more visit in a week.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
All right and wrap this whole thing up. Man, appreciate this.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I would love that guy.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Thank all right, man, good stuff. Mike de Corsi one
of the best men. He's a Hall of Famer, Sporting News,
Big ten Network. He is in San Antonio at the
Alamodome getting ready for Houston and Florida. All right, so
we can give our thoughts. By the way, who do
I know you're rooting for Florida because your kids down there.
We'll talk more about that coming up.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Ember.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Queen's got that point and a half for the Gators
tonight in San Antonio. I do want to go back
to football, because we teased this earlier in the show.
The draft is two weeks from Thursday. Does a wide
receiver room of Cooper Cup, Jackson Smith and Jigba and
Ted McMillan plus the cap savings turn you on a
little bit more than a wide receiver room with DK Metcalf,
(18:56):
Tyler Lockett in, Jackson Smith and Jigba. We'll get a
huge thoughts on that next on ninety three three kJ RFM.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
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Speaker 3 (19:11):
All Right, boys and girls, we're back here at the
embra Quei Casino, Florida and Houston for the National Championship.
We got more on that in a matter of minutes.
But uh, Hugh Millan in for Dick Faye. In the
entire week, by the way, a lot of draft chatter,
a lot of football chatter coming.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
The draft is two weeks from Thursday. Going to be
at the vMac for that one.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
But Hugh, I asked you about an hour ago, and
I want to get your thoughts on this because lan Zerline,
our buddy from NFL network, NFL dot com has Tet
McMillan mocked to the Seahawks and number eighteen. So what
what what option would you prefer? Option A DK Metcalf,
Tyler Lockett, Jackson Smith and Jigba or Option B Cooper
(19:52):
Cup for half of what the Steelers are paying DK Metcalf,
Jackson Smith and Jigba and a rookie In Tet McMillan,
you picked one and one room only.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Which one do you want?
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Well, given how they've used DK metcalf, I could be
talked into the fresh group.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
You know.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
First of all, I think JSNU next year is gonna
be better than JASN last year. All right, So that's okay.
I think that Cooper Cup is I think he's a
little bit better than Tyler Lockett. He'll be better next
year than Tyler Lockett would have been. And uh and
then as far as you can't say a rookie's gonna
come in here and do what Dk Metcalf did, I mean,
(20:34):
you know, the guy signed thirty three million dollar contract.
I will say one thing that's drive me crazy as
it pertains to Tet McMillan, that what's happened to the team.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I didn't hear a word he said, Jackson, did you
get that?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
By the way, no, I'll try to reget him.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Okay, it's it literally sounded like somebody took an M
eight to his connection and blew his whole connection up.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
What has happen?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
They get him back on the air and ask him
what the hells are going on there? Because I could
not hear any of that there. But Hugh Millin's with us.
He'll be with us in a matter of seconds. Okay, Hugh,
whatever you were asking that, we didn't get that, so
can you please repeat it?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Oh we had him, We had him in a second ago.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Don't have him. This is kind of becoming a little
bit of a consistent thing, by the way, at least
with this time of the day. Whatever his internet plan is,
it might only work between the hours of like nine
am and four point thirty pm, because it seems to
happen at the same freaking time every damn day that
he's on with us, and he's gonna be on with
us all week long, so we may have to fix that.
But I'm curious what the Texters think four nine four
(21:40):
five one. Which wide receiver group do you prefer and
I'm actually surprised that Hugh would even consider the group
that did not involve DK metcalf.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
You do we have you again?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
By the way, you're there, all right, I can hear
you laughing. So finish your thought. You were about to
go off on something or something?
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Yeah, on reporting the state of reporting in if you
on the Google and you say and you say ted
McMillan says he doesn't like football, or Google's something like that.
There are all kinds of headlines that come up. He said,
where said the main headline says he doesn't watch football,
And then there's other ones where he's a few of
them that say several of them say he doesn't like football.
(22:17):
He says he doesn't like football. But then when you
click on it, you can't find it in a quote nowhere,
I mean, story after story, you cannot find it in
a quote. And by the way, even if he said
he didn't like football, does he mean he doesn't like
watching like pro football? Just hey, I'm not an NFL fan,
or he doesn't does he mean he doesn't like playing football?
If he says he doesn't like playing football, that's a
(22:39):
big problem. It's a little problem. If he says he
doesn't like watching football, because most great players like watching football.
But you know what, hey, David, you remember what was
the biggest knock on Miles Garrett coming out of college
at what was the biggest not on lazy?
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Yeah? And and the question of how important is football team?
Speaker 7 (23:02):
Remember that he was he was into all kinds of
hobbies and other things, and and that was like a
legit question, how much does he really love football?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Right?
Speaker 7 (23:11):
And and look at that he's been as dominant in
the last seven or eight years as any player on
the defensive side of the football in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
But that that that's probably a little bit of an
outlier though, Hugh. I think in general terms, if you
heard that the guy was lazy and didn't like football,
you would probably shy away from him. I mean, what
was the what was the criticism of Malik McDowell, Right,
He was lazy?
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Right? And I never heard lazy.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I never heard lazy about Malik McDowell.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no,
I'm talking about for yeah, for sure, Malik McDowell.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
I'm just saying I don't remember.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
What my my recollection of the Miles Garrett narrative, should
he be the number one pick coming out of a
and m was how important is football to him? And
he had at some point he had said he has
other interests and you know, he likes poetry or whatever
the hell he said he liked. And and so there
was some question about his burning competitiveness. Is he does
(24:09):
he have a burning desire to be great? Yes, you know,
when you compare him, put him on the Michael Jordan
or the or the Mamba scale, where where you know
there's ferocious competitors. It was thought that Miles Garrett is
well down the scale on that burning competitor list.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
And now he ended up going number one overall.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
But that was not a slam dunk fade, a complete
type of a of a of a pick. And so
at any event, I think you just got to wade
through this. But getting back to my my beef, I
think the reporting is horrible. Here's this, Here's what I
would say. If Ted McMillan has a quote about this,
put the damn thing in quotation marks and let the
(24:53):
subheading reflect exactly what he said in the quotation marks.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
They He's why we have quotation marks. I want to
hear his exact word for word quote.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I do think that, first of all, it's totally fair.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
And look, I mean, I apologize because he did not
say what I thought he said, So I'm I'm actually
glad he did not say that because I think the
odds while still a long shot. I mean, the odds
of landing any one player with one particular pick of
the draft is always a long shot to begin with.
But I'd say the odds of the Seahawks getting Ted
(25:28):
McMillan today are stronger than they were a month ago
after the DK Metcalf trade, and he.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Could end up with Sealock.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I don't want to have a guy that's getting drafted
by the team that you know, we went after for
being an idiot and saying doesn't like football and doesn't
watch tape. So I'm glad that that stuff isn't true
number one. And I do think the context of watching
tape with your teammates versus watching tape by yourself, I
agree with you, it is different. I would like to
have a tape junkie, a film junkie. I mean, what
(25:55):
was the big criticism of Kyler Murray so much to
a point where the Cardinals wanted it contract that they
had to watch film, right, So I think we like
guys that watch film.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
We like guys that love football.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
So if Tech McMillan ends up with Seahawk, I'm glad
that we cleared this up.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
There's a difference between a quarterback and a wide receiver
in that regard. Yes, if you told me that Cooper
Cup was a film junkie, I would believe it, and
I would say that absolutely helps his football IQ. And
and for an outside receiver, I can even break this
down granular. It is more important for an inside receiver
(26:32):
to be a film junkie than an outside receiver to
be a film junkie, because you're if you're an.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Outside receiver and what did you say?
Speaker 7 (26:39):
It was five e eight to one seventeen the Raco
outside the inside at Arizona. You're looking at the corners
and you're just saying, okay, you know, are they off?
Are they press? How do they press? How aggressive are
they at the line? What's their footworks? Are they you
know they press bail?
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Are they kneel? Knees in?
Speaker 7 (26:55):
You're looking at that corner, that technique and that that
primarily and the the receiver coach is telling you, hey,
this is the percent. You know they're a Cover three team,
they're a Cover four team. There that you know they
play expect Cover two on these downs. Like there's a
there's a a baseline borderline. I say, I should say
there should be a floor on your studying if you're
(27:18):
a receiver above which it just it can make you better.
And if that, if that makes you feel more comfortable
than fine. But I do think that for a wide receiver,
particularly an outside wide receiver, you can get the baseline
just being in your meeting room. You don't have to do.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Extra if you're a talented player. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yep, totally. It's gonna break a little textimonials for you.
Four nine, four five one, get your thoughts on tonight's game,
your thoughts on the question of which wide receiver room
you prefer, all that and more. Bill Krueger, you know
Billy Huey, He's gonna join us cover five. I think
the Mariner broadcast is lesser without him in my opinion,
(28:00):
and I really miss him on Root Sports and on
the Mariner broadcast. We'll talk to Bill Kruger coming up
at five on ninety three three kJ RFM,
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