April 7, 2025 • 39 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Hugh Millen chat with Bill Krueger about the Mariners continued struggles as the season is 10 games in, then talk to Matt Thomas in San Antonio before hitting on why Hugh is a Duke fan, having loyalty to a second team.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When you hear this Week in Baseball, For many, many,
many years on this radio show meant one thing and
one thing only, and that was Bill Krueger joining us
after a Mariner victory, which clearly we are not doing
that anymore on this show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Because the Mariners lost yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
But maybe Bill Kruger joining us we'll jumpstart the team
to bigger and better things.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Billy, it's Softie and Hugh Mill And how are you, man.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I'm good. I'm looking for that rainbow, you know.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
We had that heavy shower, you know, kind of looking
for that big arc to fall across the beautiful Seattle
and change the fortunes of the team.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Right yeah, well we're all waiting for that.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
First of all, it's great to hear your voice. It's
been too long.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
And I'll just say this right now, miss you like
mad on the broadcast. That broadcast is not the same
whether pregame, postgame, or during the game without you and
your input. So they are lesser for it for not
having you there as a part of that. But we
appreciate you doing this with us. And we haven't caught
and caught up in a while. I mean, it feels
like there's a ton of stuff to talk about, cal
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Rawley's contract, the movement or lack thereof, and free agency
over the offseason. What do you just make a Mariner
baseball circuit twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Men just feels a little bit like holding serve right.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I'm not really changing anything, not really trying to to
really improve things, trying to bet upon the strength that
you have. Right, great starting pitching and a very very
good young closer. That's what you're betting on. And you know,
when you take the template of this team, if you
were to go back at the end of the the
season and you took you could take a snapshot of
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all the teams before for agency and said, you know,
if you're put all the gentle manager in a room
and you maybe tape the top of the teams off
and say, you know, if you look at the core,
which team would you like. I've got a lot of
teams to take the core of the Mariners. Superstar to
be centerfielder, young, controlled, good short stuf up, all world catcher,
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five premium starters, and a young closer that's very good.
That's kind of like Yatzi really, I mean, you're filling
the rest of the cracks. You got room to fill
it in because you're you're not you're not overburdened by money.
Wouldn't anybody want to take that?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
And you have a.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Town with a with a with a big following or
wonderful ballpark and very affluent business culture.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Uh yeah, wouldn't you take that?
Speaker 5 (02:27):
You would?
Speaker 6 (02:27):
And they have the third youngest pitching staff. Uh so
put that all together. And and if you're GM Billy
Krueger for the Mariners, what is the one move that
was ever discussed or maybe it wasn't discussed. What what
is the one thing that just kind of sticks in
your craw the most about the inactivity of the Mariners?
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What move would have you made or really tried to
make had you been in charge of the team.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Well, I mean, they just need some reliable RBI pe
bats and probably some guy that's got kind of the
juice to give you a lot of all fields hitting
that can hit for.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
A high average. And it's not easy. I get it.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Teams players aren't necessarily you know, hitters are not necessarily
enamored about coming to Seattle because the ballpark has a
reputation for being a tough place to hit and it's
long ways from the center of their lives more than likely, right,
So there's a lot of things to work against you.
So you're kind of forced to ending up a little
bit if you're going to get somebody of that quality.
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I want so to Probably not in their game. Probably
wasn't someone they could go and chase. And then you
had Christian Walker, who's a solid right hand hitting which
isn't perfect first base from with a gold glove. That
would have been a slightly cheaper player in the in
the vein of where they needed help, which is first base.
You have Pete Alonzo that fell to the bottom of
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the market, but then again, you know he's not quite
the player that Walker is, but he has a lot
of power and marriage lack power. And of course you
know Bragman, who's uh you know, eats nails for breakfast,
just charismatic to beat the band, a hard nosed player
that can really hit and really play. Those are all
great players. And maybe the Mariners, whether they were in
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we don't think they were on any of those players,
really in on those players.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
It's good.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
It would have taken some creativity. I think I think
they they need to be a little bit more creative
and will almost kid Mahall passed to say, maybe they
couldn't really make sense of those players. Let's just say
because A it's a premium B the player doesn't want
to come here, so you have to maybe think about
it via trade and the guy you should be thinking
about trading. And this may seem a little bit conratuitive
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with what I said. You trade, You trade Luis Castillo
because Luis Castillo is at a place where he's plateaued
and it's only gonna not precipitously, but it's going to
start to come down.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Flat arm angle.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Losing v Low is gonna have to be He was
pretty good his last start. Man he got us, He
pitched in the zone. It was impressive with some movement.
But I see seventy two million on the docket, and
I say, if there's a market for that guy, And
there was a lot of time in that market this
past year where I think Luis Custial was marketable and
maybe you get the right player and return and maybe
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you don't, and maybe there's some horse trading, but there's
money that comes back your way, now, doesn't it right?
Maybe you can use that money for something else. Well,
what do you do about that starter spot? My thought is,
and I could be wrong, there's always risk in everything,
but take a look at the kid that pitched at
East Side Catholic. That, wow, it is during the playoffs
a left handed starter that happens to come from this area,
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live in some amish, Matt Boyd.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
He's starting for the Cubs.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
They gave him a two year I think it's two
years twenty nine. The Mariners lacked left handed pitching. It
killed them last year in the playoffs. They didn't the
playoff run. They didn't lose because they couldn't hit. The
last six weeks. They lost because Dan Wilson was forced
to try to push starting pitchers an out or two
more because they had no left handed release and they
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had no overpowering one, two, three at the end of
the game without Brash.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
They need left handed pitching.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
So I make the move for Boyd, and then I've
either got resources to get a player from the deal
that I made for Castile.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Maybe I trade him and get a left hand to
some Red Sox. Right, make some deal. There's a way
to do it.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
There's always a way to do it, and still not
you know, have to you know, make a capital call
on the owners that seem to be very difficult to
place to go.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Well, Bill Krueger is with us, and he is, by
the way, turning over a new leaf like the young
kids do. And he's going to be very active on X.
Follow him at Bill Krueger forty four, and he's so
hip by the way, Hugh, He's got two accounts at
Bill Krueger forty four at Old School Underscore MLB. So
(06:51):
we'll chat more in a second about what's going to
be on the on those accounts, Bill. But I do
got to ask you about this year's team moving forward,
because look, I mean, you know, logic says it's three
and seven, it's ten games, all right. We haven't even
really gotten going yet. And I guarantee it there's gonna
be another three and seven run. Every team in baseball,
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maybe even the Dodgers will at some point have a
three and seven run over ten games. How concerned are
you about what you've seen the first ten games? If
your confidence meeter was at a certain spot two weeks ago,
have the last ten games changed any of that one
way or the other for you?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Well, I think if anything, and this may seem a
little bit surprising. There was a little bit more surprise
than there was, you know, despair. I mean, Jorge Polanco
comes out and it's four fifty to two homers. I'm
not so sure I thought there was anything left there
right now. There's a real problem there because you can't
get on the field. And that's a whole nother discussion
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about why wasn't he a little bit further along? But
that's that's health and it's hard to call. But nonetheless,
he's fined to try to get healthy enough to play.
I saw nothing but question marks there, yep. And so
that's one. And Roblaze is proving to be the player
that we thought he was last year. Dynamic, offensively, hitting
(08:16):
two eighty, showing us that he can hit in the
lead us spot, be an impact player. So those were
those are real positive things.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Have they hit yet? No?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Have they have their their their band aided kind of
solutions worked yet?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
No.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
But when you take out the number one starter, let's say, arguably,
the number one reliever, let's say arguably, you know, I
think this is a five hundred club, but those guys
just showing up. If Kirby and and Brash are playing
you're five hundred and this team's hitting one thirty two
with runs in scoring position. That will not continue. So
there's an optimism that this team will be better. You're
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always better. You're always a safer bet. If you can
really pitch and can't hit, than then the opposite. The
opposite is definitely your death. We saw that play out
here in the late nineties in the Kingdom with all
those offensive players and not enough pitching to finish the game,
and they couldn't win when they had all those stars, right,
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So pitching is always going to make you good and
give you a chance. And they've had a couple of
close games. I mean there's question marks for me. I mean,
obviously it hurts them not to have brass and they
don't have a lot of answers out there.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
They could have.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Helped themselves a little bit more in the bullpen. I
don't think those were expensive reaches. They're kind of betting
on hope there with the bargains and Santo's and some
of these guys are just their reclamation problem rich projects.
For me, I think you should have a little more
certainty out there since you're playing with pitching right and
you're missing it. You're missing a guy that you knew
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wouldn't start the season for you. But they're really What
bothers me is how they handle the five spot. I mean,
Emerson Hancock goes out and has a rocky one not
even one inning. Granted he wasn't good, but he wasn't scattery.
He just got hit a little bit, and they immediately
sent him a triple A and like never to be
seen again. And then they run a kid, Luis f
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Castillo into the first game against the Giants. I don't
see anything there that's a relief pitcher, scattery control, doesn't
throw hard, a little bit of an angle with a slider. Sorry,
not good enough. I bring Hancock back to pitch. Look
at his numbers last year. I mean, he had some
great performances, had a pretty good spring. They've screwed him
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up and given him a stupid sweeper breaking ball, which
is like Nintendo, it's not real baseball.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Got to get rid of that.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
But this thing that goes across the everybody's like the
fashion place, like, oh it's fashion, it's trendy. No, it's
not good. You want the breaking ball to be hard
and sharp and go down. We're not trying to impress
you visually. We're trying to get the hitter out, so
I don't give up on him that quick. And then
why did they get those guys extra rest. I'm sure
they've got some interesting formula as to how this is
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going to play out, you know, for.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
The next two series and beyond.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Why would you want to rest guys when they're just
getting their pitch count up. Miller showed it he was
a little not in his best form his last start
against the Giants. We've waited seven days to pitch again.
WU had to wait? What's the point in waiting? But
that kids picked the third game. I just don't get it.
So there's some questions there on that for me. So
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I think it's not as bad as it looks. Certainly
with role plays hurt that's not good and Polanco looking
like he's maybe a DH that's not good either. So
they've got some real problems to address with some of
these with some of these injuries, that's for sure. And
waiting on Kirby hoping that he's just going to be
a okay and and Brah should be here pretty soon.
I'm pretty confident about that.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Well, we'll get to the Roblace injury here in a second,
but Billy Krueger with us and and Bill I want
to stick with the pitching staff here in that because
the handwringing the offseason, of course, was the failure to
fort to five the lineup. But there was enough chatter
too that, okay, the young pitchers, they were so good.
(12:06):
Is it reasonable to expect them to be that good?
I mean, I'll give you two stats an old school era,
as you know, Mariner's staff was number one in baseball.
Last year a new stat ops sixty nine was the
lowest number one in baseball. That's pretty good. How concerned
are you as really good obviously? How concerned are you that, hey,
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just by the natural order of things, you just can't
expect them to be at that level? Or do you
see it differently?
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I see these guys that are all on the beginning
of their journey.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
They're going to get better.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
These are not older pitchers, These are not pictures that
are going to be prone to getting hurt. Yes, did
Kirby start out with a little bit of a shoulder inflammation.
The problem you have to understand is that for every
day out, it's two days to come back, so every
day you count you got double it before he pitches again.
That's how it works. It's going to take some time.
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Is he going to be okay, he's going to be flying. Yeah.
I think all these kids are on their way up
in their careers. They're going to pitch wonderfully in our ballpark.
It's tailor made for him. They're pitchers that strive to
get better and they come up with different ways to
improve their outpitches. We pitch in an era of the
big strike zone. They pitch in a big ballpark where
there's lots of room to challenge people and the strike zone.
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I think Kirby and Gilbert are stars. Wu is like
he's got the invisible It's like how does he do it?
Fastball's coming and nobody hits it. And Miller, to me,
had got grit and smarts and he got better last year,
which was really a good sign after you know, a
lot of times you're successful as a rookie and then
people kind of figure you out. But this kid got
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a little moxie and he's kind of he's made some
improvements trying to find the right breaking ball for himself
and develop in a split. So all this missing is
they don't have the fist guy right, and that's dragging
their numbers down. They're twelfth in the ra right now
because how many runs right they're giving up Ken in
in the in the five spot and two starts. That's
(14:06):
gonna bring your numbers down. Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Bill Krueger's with us, Bill before we get to what
you're doing on social media, And Uh, I'm gonna just
check this real quick because either A you're multitasking or
B somebody is managing your Twitter account for you. Uh,
I just got to follow from Old School Underscore MLB.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Was that you Are you doing that at the same
time you around the air with.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
This No, that's that's the Uh, that's the my other account.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
God, unbelievable, man, you got a whole team of people
working for you.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Well, follow follow Bill at Follow Bill at Old School
Underscore MLB, and we're gonna see if we can pump
but we're gonna see you pump up this follow a
count by the time this segment's over. At Old School
Underscore MLB, give Bill a follow on that account right now.
So the roll blest thing for me, twofold How concerned
are you about this long term waiting for the MRI
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results today. And then number two, why is there a
stadium in twenty twenty five where a player could fall
over a short wall and get caught in netting in
this day and age, How does that happen?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Well, I know they put the nets out for this
whole protection of fans, right, And you know that's there's
an illusion there to the player, right, And what you
think you're running into isn't quite what you think it is,
so that I think you have to have a little
bit of judgment, right, Maybe that wasn't I mean, he
went after it and you got it.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Sort of. You got to give him a ton.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Of credit for being so aggressive and making an incredible player, right,
But you also have to make a good judgment, right, because.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
That net's not there to protect you.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
It's supposedly up there to protect the fans from what
I understand, But that's way down the line, so I
don't know, I don't really understand it. I saw the
knitting down there. It seems kind of odd, right, Why
that knitting is there? So because you can see what happens.
He caught that ball and then his arm went up
against the net because it game it sublects his shoulder back.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Right, we saw what happened after they slowed.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
It down and took a look at it.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
It was a pretty amazing play.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Right. It was Derek Jeter, but not Derek Jeter, right,
I mean it was some kind of going in the
stands kind of play.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
He's hungry player.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I mean, you know, he's at a little over aggressive
and comes sometimes it isn't always perfect, but boy, he's
really given this team a nice lift. They're going to
need him to get healthy and in return to be
the lamp they are. They don't have a leadoff hitter
and now they're gonna have to jigger the line up
a little bit. They've decided to go with KANDL and right,
they're bringing him up to keep Raley at first, I guess.
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But then when you start, you know, playing the music,
and the music stops and everybody finds a chair. What
happens when Raley doesn't catch If Plongco can't play third,
I mean you need Plonk goes back. Now, what happens
That's a problem because to me, right now, it doesn't
look like he.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Can play third. Yeah, they got right, I'm not sure
he can play third. If he's healthy.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
No, he's a fish out of water. There's a reason
why he's only played twenty eight games his life at
third base up until this year. Doesn't have the arm.
Rayley's in right field tonight, by the way, with Polanco
and DH and they've got Dylan Moore over at third
against against Wiznski from the Astros, who they got in
the Kyle Tucker trade, by the way.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Over the off season.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
But Bill, before you go real quick, we just got
your four new followers at Old School Underscore MLB five
hundred bucks a follow so you can write a check
to me next time you see us. But you're on
Twitter with two accounts at Bill Krueger forty four and
at Old School Underscore MLB. So tell people about what
you're planning for social media.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Man, Well, right now, the object is to start building building,
getting my voice out, building an audience. These are short
clips to try to say, you know, come and follow me,
and we'll see where that following takes us. If I
can get to a place where it looks like people
are paying attention to what I have to say, and
maybe you know, a podcast is the next step.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I'm learning as I go I don't have it.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
All figured out, but I still have the zeal and
the interest to talk about the Mariner, baseball, talk about
baseball subjects, talk about things that I think people want
to hear, and as I said in an unvarnished and
non homogenized way.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I love it. I love it well.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
That broadcast again is not the same without you, man,
for sure. We miss you on TV and looking forward
to hearing you're more on the radio. Pel great stuff,
and best of luck with the social media venture. And
we're gonna bug you soon. All right, we'll talk again.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Man, that'd be great. Dave love to be on with
you guys. Yea, yeah, uk you.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Loving good stuff. Bill Krueger with us. We're gonna get
a break.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I think we're gonna head to the Alamodome, where we
are literally about thirty minutes away from tip off with
Houston and Florida. Got a buddy of ours, Matt Thomas
Hugh that does a radio show in Houston. He is
in the stands. I got a quick update from him,
and then I gotta get after you a little bit,
my friend. All right, I gotta bust your chops about
something coming up on ninety three to three KJRFM.
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Speaker 2 (19:15):
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Speaker 1 (19:17):
We are at the Emeral Queen Casino Sportsbook, hanging out
live until seven o'clock tonight, cracking pre game face off
at seven thirty with the La Kings. But okay, humilling
back in here in a second. He's in for Dick
all week long. I'm actually surprised that this guy was
sober enough that he was conscious enough to answer his
phone and say hello. Radio Voice of the Houston Rockets
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does ten to two on Sports Talk seven to ninety
in Houston. He's in San Antonio, Jackson. He's in the
crowd getting crazy before his Houston Cougar's take on Florida
for the National Championship. Just a quick update from the
Alamodome with our friend Matty Thomas.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Matt what's going on down there? Baby? How fired up
for you? Man off.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
Hey, let me tell you. We're about twenty minutes and tip.
Speaker 9 (20:04):
You know I would never turn a phone call down
from you, especially because here's gonna happen tonight. The Astros
are gonna beat the managers at least two out of
three at least, and then we're gonna.
Speaker 8 (20:14):
Win a national championship here in San Antonio.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
All right.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Will this be the first unblemish championship though in Houston
sports history?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
In your opinion, that's.
Speaker 8 (20:23):
Enough from you, softie.
Speaker 10 (20:24):
You want to say that, how the hell, Hey, dude,
tell you something, all these final fours, all these near misses,
the FI Slama Jama, the COVID year in Indianapolis.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
Uh, this is again.
Speaker 9 (20:39):
I did a Rockets Warriors game in San Francisco last night.
I took the red eye here, did my four hour
radio show because iHeart has a work workforce reduction.
Speaker 8 (20:48):
I got next hour for no additional paper.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
I took him back that I did in the Animal
Doome with all my friends.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
Just hanging out here and being a Joe fan.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
So I love it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Can't replay well enjoy it because the last time Houston
played in this game, you know where the game was
by the way.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
Oh yeah there, Patrick, Yeah, we got his revenge of
ninety four.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
We did Kingdome, Seattle baby against Patrick Ewing and Georgetown.
But before you go, give us just a quick thought.
You gotta be nervous as hell. I remember how nervous
I was walking around the field in Houston, uh before
we played Michigan for the National Championship. But tell me
about your gut feeling right now on this one, because
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Vegas says this thing's coming down the wire.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Baby, to be.
Speaker 9 (21:36):
Brutally out of talky. I didn't think we were gonna
beat you in for about thirty three minutes.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
It looked that way. Something turned on.
Speaker 9 (21:44):
I'll give it part to the fact that two just
a raider and the Houston defense to do.
Speaker 8 (21:49):
It to you.
Speaker 9 (21:49):
You couldn't buy it basket the first half. It's the
bench shooting Easton team be pat since Kelvin has been here.
So it was really shocking that helps portally got the game.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
But he got bigar, You've got ljick Meyer, You've.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
Got Manuel Sharp looking down Milo Suzanne, you can just
knock it down.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
You got a most players at a.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
Really nice job at six times greats and we're physical
as hell, we're gonna beat you up. Don shire go
to do as much, and so I would not be
surprised circumstances similar fate. It happens here today. All right,
just get up to a better start.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Well.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Listen, your phone's starting to break up.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I think it's all the alcohol starting to coagulate between
now and in San Antonio. So go get him, have fun,
enjoy it, and we'll talk down the road.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Buddy, have fun that.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
I met anytime, anytime? Friends.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
All Right, Matt Thomas is in San Antonio. If you
want to know what it is, dude, it's one of
my biggest pet peeves. Like you went off on your
pet peeve about reporting earlier for the tet story, It's
one of my biggest pet peeves.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
It's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
What is it about fifty sixty seventy thousand people in
the same spot that we can't find a way to
make wireless networks out the way they're supposed to.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
H Yeah, out of my pay grade, man, I know
you think that they had to smooth this thing out
by now. I'll tell you what a pep peve for
me was. How about Duke not being able to inbounds
the ball. Yeah in the last like like, dude, sign
James the guy the inbound he looked like a deer
in the headlights.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Get a new inbounds guy.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Okay, time my lineup, Like, oh my god, this will
this will lead me perfectly into my next topic. Okay,
because what a lot of people don't know about you
and Jackson. I'm not sure if you're aware of this
or not. Hugh Millan is a Duke fan. He's a
Duke fan. What and if you go to his house,
you open up his closet, you'll see a Notre Dame jersey,
a Yankees jersey as well. All right, you might see
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a couple of Lakers jerseys in there too. I mean,
do I see a Red Sox cap in there? The
hell happened to you?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Man?
Speaker 6 (23:53):
I lived in Boston? Okay, so I want to care
lived in Boston. What does that have to do with
do if I had If I had a Red Soxy,
it would be an explanation.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
All right, So Jackson, you come in this. I'm gonna
try and see.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
Now.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Look, I didn't go up in Durham. I didn't go
to North to Duke, so I don't have a on
a one to ten scale. I don't have a duke card,
but let me explain, because I understand I'm vulnerable to
ball busting on this. In the early to mid nineteen seventies,
Dean Smith was the coach of North Carolina and he
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used to run what was called the four Corners where
there was no shot clock. All right, Jackson'm bringing you
in because you're a young dude. You don't remember this time.
There was no shot clock and Dean Smith they would
do this. It was essentially keep away and they would
do it for minutes up on time, like hold the
ball for seven minutes. And I remember, as an eight,
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nine ten year old, just again, this is patently unsportsmanlike.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
I freaking hated it. So I developed a hatred.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
For North Carolina, which the reciprocal is it that I
like Duke Duke played in the seventies championship against Kentucky.
I rooted for Duke Duke lost. Then here's another stage.
So now I'm fast forward. I'm in the Fiji House
at the University of Washington fraterning one hundred and five guys.
We got about seven or eight guys who were from
m I mercer Ryland, and they're talking about this kid,
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this wonder kind kid at M I by the name
of Duke of Quinn Snyder.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Quin.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
I know, I almost said Duke because it was Duke.
And so a bunch of us, like twenty of us,
load up in the cars. I'm tired of hearing about
Quinn Snyder. We got to go check this cat out.
We go Onnie to watch pregame warm ups. This is
the smoothest, silkiest, like crazy, twitchy, like like insane, freaking
high school point guard you'd ever imagine. And it wasn't
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just that he caught recruiters on the West coast. Shrzyzewsky
was recruiting him. Shrzyzewski started in nineteen eighty. I was
already a Duke fan well before that. Now Quinn Snyde
local boy goes to Duke. He is the starting point
guard in eighty eight and eighty nine, when they go
to the final four, they don't win it. Then, when
you consider the style of play they went ten years,
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didn't have a single possession of zone defense. They would
play man and man all the time. Second half they
would slap the floor to remind themselves to get low
all the kids seemed to be like like, with almost
no exceptions, no knuckleheads, just you know, straight laced kids
who play as a team. I thought Skrzyzewsky was humble
as hell. I've liked Duke, and my dad taught me
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an appreciation at both Stanford and Duke and that, like,
you know, if you have an elite academics and you
can play athletics, respect that. And I just so, I've
been on Duke for all of those multiple reasons, been
on him for fifty years.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Well, you know what's really funny.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
When I was a kid, I used to root for
the Michigan Wolverines because my parents went to school there.
I also used to root for the A's and Cardinals
because Maguire played for them, and I was also a
big George Gervin fan, so I rooted for Santata. You
know why I don't do those things anymore because I'm
not ten years old anymore. Okay, I mean, what do
you what do you pick a team?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
You know what I'm gonna call you, Fane Junior.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
I have not stopped.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
No, no, listen, if you take those guys that those
academics and those guys and the style, the type of
player they have.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
How many thugs and punks and you can't.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I don't know, dude, I'm not aware of the thug
and the punkies.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Just that they just they just seem to have I
don't know, man, they just seem to be team oriented guys.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
They don't. They just don't have punks. Very something.
Speaker 11 (27:39):
This sounds this sounds eerily similar to why Dick Vane
is a Gonzaga fan.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Just terrible.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Man.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I love how Mark.
Speaker 11 (27:46):
He runs the program, and I love everything about just
the culture of Gonzaga, Like I get hear.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, they don't play in our conference.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
You know? You know somebody you don't even know you anymore.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
You have the Huskies given me?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
And what have they given you? If given you your
whole freaking life.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
No, you should be Huskies gave you a hot wife,
that's what they gave you.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
What have Husky basketball given me? Lars Hanson in nineteen
seventy five, I James Edwards, all those guys.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I tried, I righted them, and then I start for
two decades. Okay, yeah, well you know what, So you're
just you're no better than Dick. You just you just
find an alternative when things.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Are getting tough.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Two cracks at the Apple.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Jackson and I always say you get you get two
shots every year. Jackson and I get one shot. You
know why, because we're loyal, son of a bitch.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
No no iron.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
Anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Maybe you and Fank can get together and decide how
many teams you want to root for when the tournament starts.
Speaker 11 (28:48):
This makes me think if Duke ever plays Gonzaga in
the title game, okay, God, you should just let these
two hostless show and you and I can go have
drink show.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Have okay if the Huskies aren't okay, if you Huskies
are number one, and it would be my number one.
If if if Washington played Duke in the final, I
would root for Washington.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Okay, But have you ever had a number two in
any sport?
Speaker 6 (29:09):
Have you ever had a number two? Do you have
a number two? I'll tell you my number two in
the NFL Buffalo bills, not real low bills.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Right now, I have lit bill. If the Seas don't win.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
It, I want Buffalo bills. You're telling me that that
fans never have a number two.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, but but first of all, my number two in
the NBA is right now by number one, because I
have no team. It's whoever's playing Oklahoma City is that's
my number one.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
That's your number one, and then the number two, whoever
that team had a number two.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Not consistently, it changes from year to year. Every year
it changes.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
This year it happened to be the Buffalo Bills, So
one year maybe the New York Jets.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You know what your problem is. You have loyalty to
Duke and.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You're only supposed to have you have this. They are
your number two. You just said that you're number two.
Did you not just say a number two? They are
You have loyal to them as as your number two,
and that terrible.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
There should be number two, only one.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
And now I think that's silly.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
You you can only you can only you can only root.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
For one team.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
It's got to be all nothing. No, no, you're nothing.
I don't give a damn who your team is. Just
fine one and stick with them for the rest of
your life. If you want to have a team that
you rid you just said hang on.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Forty five seconds ago, you just said your number two's
they revolve, and then now you say stick the team
for the rest of your life.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
You can't even get your we're talking about him. He's right.
Speaker 11 (30:33):
One team you're loyal to here, correct, But obviously if
we're out of it, then you can like just say,
I'm going to root for x Wes.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
I know that you're lying between oil and being a fan,
am I know to do?
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Like in what respect? Like? Like give me an example.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Are your number, there's number two, number two, you're number two.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
I like Duke for the reasons, the multiple reasons why
I stated, and I like Duke when I was ten
years old, seven years before s even arrived, and they
hang on a title when they were first title the
ninety one I get that time out.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
You and I had been a Duke fan for almost
twenty years.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
We understand that.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Now you have some type of loyalty and passion for
Duke basketball. I believe every ounce of loyalty, consistent year
in and year out, loyalty and passion should be reserved
for one team and one team only.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
If you want to.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Reserve some of that pie, two percent, five percent, whatever
it is for Duke basketball, that's on you. But people
like me and Jackson, our loyalty stays with one team.
And if there's going to be a team that we
do potentially root for because our team's out of it.
That will be decided by the context of the situation.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
We have no loyalty particular that or that directly contradicts
what you just said minutes ago when you said one
for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
No, it does not.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Okay, when you said, you're not you're not You're not
understanding man, When you said pick one for the rest
of your life or not?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yes, when you said pick one for the rest of okay.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
First of all, First of all, I know you're sixty
and your hearing starting to go.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Okay, did you say did you or did you not
play the tape? Did you say pick one.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
For the rest team?
Speaker 8 (32:14):
One team?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
One team?
Speaker 6 (32:17):
No, that's not what I'm saying, said the rest of
your life. I thought you meant pick one for the
rest of your life. I don't know why I would
be confused that way.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
If you would listen, are you Are you willing and
able to listen?
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Go ahead, tuck yourself out of this because you're talking
out of both sides of your mouth.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
There's no talking out of anything. Did you you're a
part just time you said time?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Time complete opposite.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
You said pick one for the rest of your life,
and then you said you you just pick based on
the circumstance on a year.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
To your basis, those are polar opposite takes.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
So yes, please and life you are you are cherry
picking the words that come out of my mouth, and
you were disregarding the words that you don't want to
hear what I just said to you, if you would
listen and open up your ear canals, turn up your
hearing aids okay, change your diaper. I'm telling you right
now that the consistent loyalty, year in and year out,
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consistent loyalty and passion belongs to one team. You want
to have a team every now and then based on
the context that you say, yeah, I'd liked like last year,
Jackson and I both said we'd like to see the
Buffalo Bills win.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, okay, but that was just because of the context
of the year.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
That had nothing to do with any consistent passion or loyalty.
In general terms, I could not give a damn of
Buffalo wins. Consistent passion and rock solid loyalty. That kind
of passion only is reserved for one team, not for
a second place, not for a third place.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Well, okay, that's your take. I would say this, Washington
hasn't been in the tournament enough, so if I want
to enjoy college basketball, it's natural to have a team
that you might avitate too. Well, for the reasons I said,
because they were North Carolina's rival back in the early seventies.
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When I realized I couldn't stand Dean Smith, that's when
Duke became one of my teams.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I just got a text.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I just got a text from a Cougar buddy of
mine who says, you'r a Husky pal. Doesn't make any sense.
I have no number two and never will period story.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Okay, all right, well then what does he do? What
does he do when the Cougars don't make the tournament?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
He's miserable like he's supposed to be.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
And you can't find it.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
You can't, you can't find any joy in rooting for
another team. My dad went to Michigan break and I'm
a Michigan fan. So if the Huskies aren't playing Michigan,
did you say Michigan's your number two?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I say this, I have a number two too. In
college football, Michigan. I don't have a number two, I
have number break. Got a break, we gotta got a
break break. You know what, You're right, I am missing out.
How about how about I just find number three and
number four, number five. All I'm out of two. We're
gonna break more with you. In for Dick next on
ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
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Speaker 1 (35:24):
All right, Hugh, the tax lines blowing up with the
reaction to the previous segment. That'll be appropriate to check
the text line little sloppy seconds. We'd like to call
him sloppy seconds here on the radio show. Whatever we
can't fit in for textimonials become sloppy seconds, Baby Jackson.
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Hugh Millin has revealed the world he's a gigantic Husky fan,
but Duke basketball number two on his list roots for
Duke basketball. I say that's nonsense. I say in general terms,
one team you root for and one team only. You
want to root for a team based on context. Maybe
you gotta bet, maybe you got a buddy's kid playing form,
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maybe you like a story. Right changes from year to year,
but in general terms, you have one team and one
team only that you consistently are allowed to root for.
And Hugh Millen has revealed he has two no better
than Dick fannom you ask me.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Well, first of all the whole Gonzaga things. That is
patently different, because Gonzaga is a recruiting rival to Washington,
or at least they should be a recruiting rival. Duke
is on the other end of the country in the ACC.
And by the way, when I first started rooting for them,
they were twelve in nineteen seventy three. They were twelve
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and fourteen, then ten sixteen, then thirteen and thirteen, then
thirteen and fourteen, then fourteen and thirteen. This is years
before Cisseski even arrived on the team.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
And just so if you want to stay well, you know, this.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Is not like jumping on to a Yankee bandwagon or something.
I was rooting for him because they were North Carolina's rival,
and only for that purpose, alright, then it evolved into
other things. When Quinn Snyder, the local kid, badass, freaking
kid from m I, was the starting point guard for
a Final four duke team. That's when it really started
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to accelerate.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Hey, here, I got some bad news. Your Yankees lost
to the Tigers today in Detroit. Jackson, what's the text
line saying, Okay, let's get.
Speaker 11 (37:27):
Off a few of these in a row here, just
so we can fit these in. Uh funny you mentioned
the word bandwagon you it's four two to five.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Man.
Speaker 11 (37:34):
I thought, with Dick out for the week, we were
gonna have some knowledgeable humillin. Instead we got bandwagon billy
who doesn't.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Bad wagon billy?
Speaker 11 (37:47):
Alright, let's say in the other side though, the other
side from the two six SAFTI does this all the time,
change the rules midstream and then doesn't understand why people
don't understand the rules. Then next thing, he doesn't start
calling people names like wearing hearing aids, wearing diapers and
things like that.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Well, it's.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Sixty years, it's childish analyses. It's okay, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Fallacies, I got a phallusy shove it right up your ass.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
What's next, Jackson? I think it's not Hughes.
Speaker 11 (38:24):
I was a Vikings fan for years before the Hawks existed.
They were my first love, so they're my solid two
after the Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Right now, he can the two. You can have a two.
Can't have it two, you can have it two.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Nope, all right, anything else, Jackson?
Speaker 11 (38:39):
I mean so many things, as huge, drunk, what a poser?
Speaker 5 (38:46):
I mean so much, so much name calling for both
I do.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I do appreciate the confidence that you have in yourself
and your conviction that you are willing to reveal this
to the world.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
You know what I get I get it, I understand.
Speaker 6 (39:01):
I mean Dukes is really you're a Duke fan, so
waity toity, when did that come about?
Speaker 5 (39:07):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
We know you're Florida tonight because you're pissed off that
Houston beat Duke and your son goes to Florida. So
you're a son and you're going You're going Gators all
the way tonight, I assume, Yeah, no doubt, yep, all right,
we'll get a break.
When you hear this Week in Baseball, For many, many,
many years on this radio show meant one thing and
one thing only, and that was Bill Krueger joining us
after a Mariner victory, which clearly we are not doing
that anymore on this show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Because the Mariners lost yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
But maybe Bill Kruger joining us we'll jumpstart the team
to bigger and better things.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Billy, it's Softie and Hugh Mill And how are you, man.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I'm good. I'm looking for that rainbow, you know.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
We had that heavy shower, you know, kind of looking
for that big arc to fall across the beautiful Seattle
and change the fortunes of the team.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Right yeah, well we're all waiting for that.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
First of all, it's great to hear your voice. It's
been too long.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
And I'll just say this right now, miss you like
mad on the broadcast. That broadcast is not the same
whether pregame, postgame, or during the game without you and
your input. So they are lesser for it for not
having you there as a part of that. But we
appreciate you doing this with us. And we haven't caught
and caught up in a while. I mean, it feels
like there's a ton of stuff to talk about, cal
(01:03):
Rawley's contract, the movement or lack thereof, and free agency
over the offseason. What do you just make a Mariner
baseball circuit twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Men just feels a little bit like holding serve right.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I'm not really changing anything, not really trying to to
really improve things, trying to bet upon the strength that
you have. Right, great starting pitching and a very very
good young closer. That's what you're betting on. And you know,
when you take the template of this team, if you
were to go back at the end of the the
season and you took you could take a snapshot of
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all the teams before for agency and said, you know,
if you're put all the gentle manager in a room
and you maybe tape the top of the teams off
and say, you know, if you look at the core,
which team would you like. I've got a lot of
teams to take the core of the Mariners. Superstar to
be centerfielder, young, controlled, good short stuf up, all world catcher,
(02:02):
five premium starters, and a young closer that's very good.
That's kind of like Yatzi really, I mean, you're filling
the rest of the cracks. You got room to fill
it in because you're you're not you're not overburdened by money.
Wouldn't anybody want to take that?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
And you have a.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Town with a with a with a big following or
wonderful ballpark and very affluent business culture.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Uh yeah, wouldn't you take that?
Speaker 5 (02:27):
You would?
Speaker 6 (02:27):
And they have the third youngest pitching staff. Uh so
put that all together. And and if you're GM Billy
Krueger for the Mariners, what is the one move that
was ever discussed or maybe it wasn't discussed. What what
is the one thing that just kind of sticks in
your craw the most about the inactivity of the Mariners?
(02:48):
What move would have you made or really tried to
make had you been in charge of the team.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Well, I mean, they just need some reliable RBI pe
bats and probably some guy that's got kind of the
juice to give you a lot of all fields hitting
that can hit for.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
A high average. And it's not easy. I get it.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Teams players aren't necessarily you know, hitters are not necessarily
enamored about coming to Seattle because the ballpark has a
reputation for being a tough place to hit and it's
long ways from the center of their lives more than likely, right,
So there's a lot of things to work against you.
So you're kind of forced to ending up a little
bit if you're going to get somebody of that quality.
(03:30):
I want so to Probably not in their game. Probably
wasn't someone they could go and chase. And then you
had Christian Walker, who's a solid right hand hitting which
isn't perfect first base from with a gold glove. That
would have been a slightly cheaper player in the in
the vein of where they needed help, which is first base.
You have Pete Alonzo that fell to the bottom of
(03:53):
the market, but then again, you know he's not quite
the player that Walker is, but he has a lot
of power and marriage lack power. And of course you
know Bragman, who's uh you know, eats nails for breakfast,
just charismatic to beat the band, a hard nosed player
that can really hit and really play. Those are all
great players. And maybe the Mariners, whether they were in
(04:16):
we don't think they were on any of those players,
really in on those players.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
It's good.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
It would have taken some creativity. I think I think
they they need to be a little bit more creative
and will almost kid Mahall passed to say, maybe they
couldn't really make sense of those players. Let's just say
because A it's a premium B the player doesn't want
to come here, so you have to maybe think about
it via trade and the guy you should be thinking
about trading. And this may seem a little bit conratuitive
(04:41):
with what I said. You trade, You trade Luis Castillo
because Luis Castillo is at a place where he's plateaued
and it's only gonna not precipitously, but it's going to
start to come down.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Flat arm angle.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Losing v Low is gonna have to be He was
pretty good his last start. Man he got us, He
pitched in the zone. It was impressive with some movement.
But I see seventy two million on the docket, and
I say, if there's a market for that guy, And
there was a lot of time in that market this
past year where I think Luis Custial was marketable and
maybe you get the right player and return and maybe
(05:14):
you don't, and maybe there's some horse trading, but there's
money that comes back your way, now, doesn't it right?
Maybe you can use that money for something else. Well,
what do you do about that starter spot? My thought is,
and I could be wrong, there's always risk in everything,
but take a look at the kid that pitched at
East Side Catholic. That, wow, it is during the playoffs
a left handed starter that happens to come from this area,
(05:36):
live in some amish, Matt Boyd.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
He's starting for the Cubs.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
They gave him a two year I think it's two
years twenty nine. The Mariners lacked left handed pitching. It
killed them last year in the playoffs. They didn't the
playoff run. They didn't lose because they couldn't hit. The
last six weeks. They lost because Dan Wilson was forced
to try to push starting pitchers an out or two
more because they had no left handed release and they
(06:00):
had no overpowering one, two, three at the end of
the game without Brash.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
They need left handed pitching.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
So I make the move for Boyd, and then I've
either got resources to get a player from the deal
that I made for Castile.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Maybe I trade him and get a left hand to
some Red Sox. Right, make some deal. There's a way
to do it.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
There's always a way to do it, and still not
you know, have to you know, make a capital call
on the owners that seem to be very difficult to
place to go.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Well, Bill Krueger is with us, and he is, by
the way, turning over a new leaf like the young
kids do. And he's going to be very active on X.
Follow him at Bill Krueger forty four, and he's so
hip by the way, Hugh, He's got two accounts at
Bill Krueger forty four at Old School Underscore MLB. So
(06:51):
we'll chat more in a second about what's going to
be on the on those accounts, Bill. But I do
got to ask you about this year's team moving forward,
because look, I mean, you know, logic says it's three
and seven, it's ten games, all right. We haven't even
really gotten going yet. And I guarantee it there's gonna
be another three and seven run. Every team in baseball,
(07:11):
maybe even the Dodgers will at some point have a
three and seven run over ten games. How concerned are
you about what you've seen the first ten games? If
your confidence meeter was at a certain spot two weeks ago,
have the last ten games changed any of that one
way or the other for you?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Well, I think if anything, and this may seem a
little bit surprising. There was a little bit more surprise
than there was, you know, despair. I mean, Jorge Polanco
comes out and it's four fifty to two homers. I'm
not so sure I thought there was anything left there
right now. There's a real problem there because you can't
get on the field. And that's a whole nother discussion
(07:52):
about why wasn't he a little bit further along? But
that's that's health and it's hard to call. But nonetheless,
he's fined to try to get healthy enough to play.
I saw nothing but question marks there, yep. And so
that's one. And Roblaze is proving to be the player
that we thought he was last year. Dynamic, offensively, hitting
(08:16):
two eighty, showing us that he can hit in the
lead us spot, be an impact player. So those were
those are real positive things.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Have they hit yet? No?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Have they have their their their band aided kind of
solutions worked yet?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
No.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
But when you take out the number one starter, let's say, arguably,
the number one reliever, let's say arguably, you know, I
think this is a five hundred club, but those guys
just showing up. If Kirby and and Brash are playing
you're five hundred and this team's hitting one thirty two
with runs in scoring position. That will not continue. So
there's an optimism that this team will be better. You're
(08:53):
always better. You're always a safer bet. If you can
really pitch and can't hit, than then the opposite. The
opposite is definitely your death. We saw that play out
here in the late nineties in the Kingdom with all
those offensive players and not enough pitching to finish the game,
and they couldn't win when they had all those stars, right,
(09:14):
So pitching is always going to make you good and
give you a chance. And they've had a couple of
close games. I mean there's question marks for me. I mean,
obviously it hurts them not to have brass and they
don't have a lot of answers out there.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
They could have.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Helped themselves a little bit more in the bullpen. I
don't think those were expensive reaches. They're kind of betting
on hope there with the bargains and Santo's and some
of these guys are just their reclamation problem rich projects.
For me, I think you should have a little more
certainty out there since you're playing with pitching right and
you're missing it. You're missing a guy that you knew
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wouldn't start the season for you. But they're really What
bothers me is how they handle the five spot. I mean,
Emerson Hancock goes out and has a rocky one not
even one inning. Granted he wasn't good, but he wasn't scattery.
He just got hit a little bit, and they immediately
sent him a triple A and like never to be
seen again. And then they run a kid, Luis f
(10:09):
Castillo into the first game against the Giants. I don't
see anything there that's a relief pitcher, scattery control, doesn't
throw hard, a little bit of an angle with a slider. Sorry,
not good enough. I bring Hancock back to pitch. Look
at his numbers last year. I mean, he had some
great performances, had a pretty good spring. They've screwed him
(10:31):
up and given him a stupid sweeper breaking ball, which
is like Nintendo, it's not real baseball.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Got to get rid of that.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
But this thing that goes across the everybody's like the
fashion place, like, oh it's fashion, it's trendy. No, it's
not good. You want the breaking ball to be hard
and sharp and go down. We're not trying to impress
you visually. We're trying to get the hitter out, so
I don't give up on him that quick. And then
why did they get those guys extra rest. I'm sure
they've got some interesting formula as to how this is
(11:01):
going to play out, you know, for.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
The next two series and beyond.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Why would you want to rest guys when they're just
getting their pitch count up. Miller showed it he was
a little not in his best form his last start
against the Giants. We've waited seven days to pitch again.
WU had to wait? What's the point in waiting? But
that kids picked the third game. I just don't get it.
So there's some questions there on that for me. So
(11:26):
I think it's not as bad as it looks. Certainly
with role plays hurt that's not good and Polanco looking
like he's maybe a DH that's not good either. So
they've got some real problems to address with some of
these with some of these injuries, that's for sure. And
waiting on Kirby hoping that he's just going to be
a okay and and Brah should be here pretty soon.
I'm pretty confident about that.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Well, we'll get to the Roblace injury here in a second,
but Billy Krueger with us and and Bill I want
to stick with the pitching staff here in that because
the handwringing the offseason, of course, was the failure to
fort to five the lineup. But there was enough chatter
too that, okay, the young pitchers, they were so good.
(12:06):
Is it reasonable to expect them to be that good?
I mean, I'll give you two stats an old school era,
as you know, Mariner's staff was number one in baseball.
Last year a new stat ops sixty nine was the
lowest number one in baseball. That's pretty good. How concerned
are you as really good obviously? How concerned are you that, hey,
(12:28):
just by the natural order of things, you just can't
expect them to be at that level? Or do you
see it differently?
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I see these guys that are all on the beginning
of their journey.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
They're going to get better.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
These are not older pitchers, These are not pictures that
are going to be prone to getting hurt. Yes, did
Kirby start out with a little bit of a shoulder inflammation.
The problem you have to understand is that for every
day out, it's two days to come back, so every
day you count you got double it before he pitches again.
That's how it works. It's going to take some time.
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Is he going to be okay, he's going to be flying. Yeah.
I think all these kids are on their way up
in their careers. They're going to pitch wonderfully in our ballpark.
It's tailor made for him. They're pitchers that strive to
get better and they come up with different ways to
improve their outpitches. We pitch in an era of the
big strike zone. They pitch in a big ballpark where
there's lots of room to challenge people and the strike zone.
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I think Kirby and Gilbert are stars. Wu is like
he's got the invisible It's like how does he do it?
Fastball's coming and nobody hits it. And Miller, to me,
had got grit and smarts and he got better last year,
which was really a good sign after you know, a
lot of times you're successful as a rookie and then
people kind of figure you out. But this kid got
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a little moxie and he's kind of he's made some
improvements trying to find the right breaking ball for himself
and develop in a split. So all this missing is
they don't have the fist guy right, and that's dragging
their numbers down. They're twelfth in the ra right now
because how many runs right they're giving up Ken in
in the in the five spot and two starts. That's
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gonna bring your numbers down. Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Bill Krueger's with us, Bill before we get to what
you're doing on social media, And Uh, I'm gonna just
check this real quick because either A you're multitasking or
B somebody is managing your Twitter account for you. Uh,
I just got to follow from Old School Underscore MLB.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Was that you Are you doing that at the same
time you around the air with.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
This No, that's that's the Uh, that's the my other account.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
God, unbelievable, man, you got a whole team of people
working for you.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Well, follow follow Bill at Follow Bill at Old School
Underscore MLB, and we're gonna see if we can pump
but we're gonna see you pump up this follow a
count by the time this segment's over. At Old School
Underscore MLB, give Bill a follow on that account right now.
So the roll blest thing for me, twofold How concerned
are you about this long term waiting for the MRI
(14:57):
results today. And then number two, why is there a
stadium in twenty twenty five where a player could fall
over a short wall and get caught in netting in
this day and age, How does that happen?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Well, I know they put the nets out for this
whole protection of fans, right, And you know that's there's
an illusion there to the player, right, And what you
think you're running into isn't quite what you think it is,
so that I think you have to have a little
bit of judgment, right, Maybe that wasn't I mean, he
went after it and you got it.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Sort of. You got to give him a ton.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Of credit for being so aggressive and making an incredible player, right,
But you also have to make a good judgment, right, because.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
That net's not there to protect you.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
It's supposedly up there to protect the fans from what
I understand, But that's way down the line, so I
don't know, I don't really understand it. I saw the
knitting down there. It seems kind of odd, right, Why
that knitting is there? So because you can see what happens.
He caught that ball and then his arm went up
against the net because it game it sublects his shoulder back.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Right, we saw what happened after they slowed.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
It down and took a look at it.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
It was a pretty amazing play.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Right. It was Derek Jeter, but not Derek Jeter, right,
I mean it was some kind of going in the
stands kind of play.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
He's hungry player.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I mean, you know, he's at a little over aggressive
and comes sometimes it isn't always perfect, but boy, he's
really given this team a nice lift. They're going to
need him to get healthy and in return to be
the lamp they are. They don't have a leadoff hitter
and now they're gonna have to jigger the line up
a little bit. They've decided to go with KANDL and right,
they're bringing him up to keep Raley at first, I guess.
(16:34):
But then when you start, you know, playing the music,
and the music stops and everybody finds a chair. What
happens when Raley doesn't catch If Plongco can't play third,
I mean you need Plonk goes back. Now, what happens
That's a problem because to me, right now, it doesn't
look like he.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Can play third. Yeah, they got right, I'm not sure
he can play third. If he's healthy.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
No, he's a fish out of water. There's a reason
why he's only played twenty eight games his life at
third base up until this year. Doesn't have the arm.
Rayley's in right field tonight, by the way, with Polanco
and DH and they've got Dylan Moore over at third
against against Wiznski from the Astros, who they got in
the Kyle Tucker trade, by the way.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Over the off season.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
But Bill, before you go real quick, we just got
your four new followers at Old School Underscore MLB five
hundred bucks a follow so you can write a check
to me next time you see us. But you're on
Twitter with two accounts at Bill Krueger forty four and
at Old School Underscore MLB. So tell people about what
you're planning for social media.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Man, Well, right now, the object is to start building building,
getting my voice out, building an audience. These are short
clips to try to say, you know, come and follow me,
and we'll see where that following takes us. If I
can get to a place where it looks like people
are paying attention to what I have to say, and
maybe you know, a podcast is the next step.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I'm learning as I go I don't have it.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
All figured out, but I still have the zeal and
the interest to talk about the Mariner, baseball, talk about
baseball subjects, talk about things that I think people want
to hear, and as I said in an unvarnished and
non homogenized way.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I love it. I love it well.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
That broadcast again is not the same without you, man,
for sure. We miss you on TV and looking forward
to hearing you're more on the radio. Pel great stuff,
and best of luck with the social media venture. And
we're gonna bug you soon. All right, we'll talk again.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Man, that'd be great. Dave love to be on with
you guys. Yea, yeah, uk you.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Loving good stuff. Bill Krueger with us. We're gonna get
a break.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I think we're gonna head to the Alamodome, where we
are literally about thirty minutes away from tip off with
Houston and Florida. Got a buddy of ours, Matt Thomas
Hugh that does a radio show in Houston. He is
in the stands. I got a quick update from him,
and then I gotta get after you a little bit,
my friend. All right, I gotta bust your chops about
something coming up on ninety three to three KJRFM.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
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Speaker 2 (19:15):
Alright, Saftie Dick Jackson with you.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
We are at the Emeral Queen Casino Sportsbook, hanging out
live until seven o'clock tonight, cracking pre game face off
at seven thirty with the La Kings. But okay, humilling
back in here in a second. He's in for Dick
all week long. I'm actually surprised that this guy was
sober enough that he was conscious enough to answer his
phone and say hello. Radio Voice of the Houston Rockets
(19:41):
does ten to two on Sports Talk seven to ninety
in Houston. He's in San Antonio, Jackson. He's in the
crowd getting crazy before his Houston Cougar's take on Florida
for the National Championship. Just a quick update from the
Alamodome with our friend Matty Thomas.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Matt what's going on down there? Baby? How fired up
for you? Man off.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
Hey, let me tell you. We're about twenty minutes and tip.
Speaker 9 (20:04):
You know I would never turn a phone call down
from you, especially because here's gonna happen tonight. The Astros
are gonna beat the managers at least two out of
three at least, and then we're gonna.
Speaker 8 (20:14):
Win a national championship here in San Antonio.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
All right.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Will this be the first unblemish championship though in Houston
sports history?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
In your opinion, that's.
Speaker 8 (20:23):
Enough from you, softie.
Speaker 10 (20:24):
You want to say that, how the hell, Hey, dude,
tell you something, all these final fours, all these near misses,
the FI Slama Jama, the COVID year in Indianapolis.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
Uh, this is again.
Speaker 9 (20:39):
I did a Rockets Warriors game in San Francisco last night.
I took the red eye here, did my four hour
radio show because iHeart has a work workforce reduction.
Speaker 8 (20:48):
I got next hour for no additional paper.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
I took him back that I did in the Animal
Doome with all my friends.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
Just hanging out here and being a Joe fan.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
So I love it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Can't replay well enjoy it because the last time Houston
played in this game, you know where the game was
by the way.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
Oh yeah there, Patrick, Yeah, we got his revenge of
ninety four.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
We did Kingdome, Seattle baby against Patrick Ewing and Georgetown.
But before you go, give us just a quick thought.
You gotta be nervous as hell. I remember how nervous
I was walking around the field in Houston, uh before
we played Michigan for the National Championship. But tell me
about your gut feeling right now on this one, because
(21:32):
Vegas says this thing's coming down the wire.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Baby, to be.
Speaker 9 (21:36):
Brutally out of talky. I didn't think we were gonna
beat you in for about thirty three minutes.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
It looked that way. Something turned on.
Speaker 9 (21:44):
I'll give it part to the fact that two just
a raider and the Houston defense to do.
Speaker 8 (21:49):
It to you.
Speaker 9 (21:49):
You couldn't buy it basket the first half. It's the
bench shooting Easton team be pat since Kelvin has been here.
So it was really shocking that helps portally got the game.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
But he got bigar, You've got ljick Meyer, You've.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
Got Manuel Sharp looking down Milo Suzanne, you can just
knock it down.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
You got a most players at a.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
Really nice job at six times greats and we're physical
as hell, we're gonna beat you up. Don shire go
to do as much, and so I would not be
surprised circumstances similar fate. It happens here today. All right,
just get up to a better start.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Well.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Listen, your phone's starting to break up.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I think it's all the alcohol starting to coagulate between
now and in San Antonio. So go get him, have fun,
enjoy it, and we'll talk down the road.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Buddy, have fun that.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
I met anytime, anytime? Friends.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
All Right, Matt Thomas is in San Antonio. If you
want to know what it is, dude, it's one of
my biggest pet peeves. Like you went off on your
pet peeve about reporting earlier for the tet story, It's
one of my biggest pet peeves.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
It's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
What is it about fifty sixty seventy thousand people in
the same spot that we can't find a way to
make wireless networks out the way they're supposed to.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
H Yeah, out of my pay grade, man, I know
you think that they had to smooth this thing out
by now. I'll tell you what a pep peve for
me was. How about Duke not being able to inbounds
the ball. Yeah in the last like like, dude, sign
James the guy the inbound he looked like a deer
in the headlights.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Get a new inbounds guy.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Okay, time my lineup, Like, oh my god, this will
this will lead me perfectly into my next topic. Okay,
because what a lot of people don't know about you
and Jackson. I'm not sure if you're aware of this
or not. Hugh Millan is a Duke fan. He's a
Duke fan. What and if you go to his house,
you open up his closet, you'll see a Notre Dame jersey,
a Yankees jersey as well. All right, you might see
(23:44):
a couple of Lakers jerseys in there too. I mean,
do I see a Red Sox cap in there? The
hell happened to you?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Man?
Speaker 6 (23:53):
I lived in Boston? Okay, so I want to care
lived in Boston. What does that have to do with
do if I had If I had a Red Soxy,
it would be an explanation.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
All right, So Jackson, you come in this. I'm gonna
try and see.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
Now.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Look, I didn't go up in Durham. I didn't go
to North to Duke, so I don't have a on
a one to ten scale. I don't have a duke card,
but let me explain, because I understand I'm vulnerable to
ball busting on this. In the early to mid nineteen seventies,
Dean Smith was the coach of North Carolina and he
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used to run what was called the four Corners where
there was no shot clock. All right, Jackson'm bringing you
in because you're a young dude. You don't remember this time.
There was no shot clock and Dean Smith they would
do this. It was essentially keep away and they would
do it for minutes up on time, like hold the
ball for seven minutes. And I remember, as an eight,
(24:47):
nine ten year old, just again, this is patently unsportsmanlike.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
I freaking hated it. So I developed a hatred.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
For North Carolina, which the reciprocal is it that I
like Duke Duke played in the seventies championship against Kentucky.
I rooted for Duke Duke lost. Then here's another stage.
So now I'm fast forward. I'm in the Fiji House
at the University of Washington fraterning one hundred and five guys.
We got about seven or eight guys who were from
m I mercer Ryland, and they're talking about this kid,
(25:16):
this wonder kind kid at M I by the name
of Duke of Quinn Snyder.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Quin.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
I know, I almost said Duke because it was Duke.
And so a bunch of us, like twenty of us,
load up in the cars. I'm tired of hearing about
Quinn Snyder. We got to go check this cat out.
We go Onnie to watch pregame warm ups. This is
the smoothest, silkiest, like crazy, twitchy, like like insane, freaking
high school point guard you'd ever imagine. And it wasn't
(25:48):
just that he caught recruiters on the West coast. Shrzyzewsky
was recruiting him. Shrzyzewski started in nineteen eighty. I was
already a Duke fan well before that. Now Quinn Snyde
local boy goes to Duke. He is the starting point
guard in eighty eight and eighty nine, when they go
to the final four, they don't win it. Then, when
you consider the style of play they went ten years,
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didn't have a single possession of zone defense. They would
play man and man all the time. Second half they
would slap the floor to remind themselves to get low
all the kids seemed to be like like, with almost
no exceptions, no knuckleheads, just you know, straight laced kids
who play as a team. I thought Skrzyzewsky was humble
as hell. I've liked Duke, and my dad taught me
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an appreciation at both Stanford and Duke and that, like,
you know, if you have an elite academics and you
can play athletics, respect that. And I just so, I've
been on Duke for all of those multiple reasons, been
on him for fifty years.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Well, you know what's really funny.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
When I was a kid, I used to root for
the Michigan Wolverines because my parents went to school there.
I also used to root for the A's and Cardinals
because Maguire played for them, and I was also a
big George Gervin fan, so I rooted for Santata. You
know why I don't do those things anymore because I'm
not ten years old anymore. Okay, I mean, what do
you what do you pick a team?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
You know what I'm gonna call you, Fane Junior.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
I have not stopped.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
No, no, listen, if you take those guys that those
academics and those guys and the style, the type of
player they have.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
How many thugs and punks and you can't.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I don't know, dude, I'm not aware of the thug
and the punkies.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Just that they just they just seem to have I
don't know, man, they just seem to be team oriented guys.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
They don't. They just don't have punks. Very something.
Speaker 11 (27:39):
This sounds this sounds eerily similar to why Dick Vane
is a Gonzaga fan.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Just terrible.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Man.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I love how Mark.
Speaker 11 (27:46):
He runs the program, and I love everything about just
the culture of Gonzaga, Like I get hear.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, they don't play in our conference.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
You know? You know somebody you don't even know you anymore.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
You have the Huskies given me?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
And what have they given you? If given you your
whole freaking life.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
No, you should be Huskies gave you a hot wife,
that's what they gave you.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
What have Husky basketball given me? Lars Hanson in nineteen
seventy five, I James Edwards, all those guys.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I tried, I righted them, and then I start for
two decades. Okay, yeah, well you know what, So you're
just you're no better than Dick. You just you just
find an alternative when things.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Are getting tough.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Two cracks at the Apple.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Jackson and I always say you get you get two
shots every year. Jackson and I get one shot. You
know why, because we're loyal, son of a bitch.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
No no iron.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
Anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Maybe you and Fank can get together and decide how
many teams you want to root for when the tournament starts.
Speaker 11 (28:48):
This makes me think if Duke ever plays Gonzaga in
the title game, okay, God, you should just let these
two hostless show and you and I can go have
drink show.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Have okay if the Huskies aren't okay, if you Huskies
are number one, and it would be my number one.
If if if Washington played Duke in the final, I
would root for Washington.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Okay, But have you ever had a number two in
any sport?
Speaker 6 (29:09):
Have you ever had a number two? Do you have
a number two? I'll tell you my number two in
the NFL Buffalo bills, not real low bills.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Right now, I have lit bill. If the Seas don't win.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
It, I want Buffalo bills. You're telling me that that
fans never have a number two.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, but but first of all, my number two in
the NBA is right now by number one, because I
have no team. It's whoever's playing Oklahoma City is that's
my number one.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
That's your number one, and then the number two, whoever
that team had a number two.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Not consistently, it changes from year to year. Every year
it changes.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
This year it happened to be the Buffalo Bills, So
one year maybe the New York Jets.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You know what your problem is. You have loyalty to
Duke and.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You're only supposed to have you have this. They are
your number two. You just said that you're number two.
Did you not just say a number two? They are
You have loyal to them as as your number two,
and that terrible.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
There should be number two, only one.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
And now I think that's silly.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
You you can only you can only you can only root.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
For one team.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
It's got to be all nothing. No, no, you're nothing.
I don't give a damn who your team is. Just
fine one and stick with them for the rest of
your life. If you want to have a team that
you rid you just said hang on.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Forty five seconds ago, you just said your number two's
they revolve, and then now you say stick the team
for the rest of your life.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
You can't even get your we're talking about him. He's right.
Speaker 11 (30:33):
One team you're loyal to here, correct, But obviously if
we're out of it, then you can like just say,
I'm going to root for x Wes.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
I know that you're lying between oil and being a fan,
am I know to do?
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Like in what respect? Like? Like give me an example.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Are your number, there's number two, number two, you're number two.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
I like Duke for the reasons, the multiple reasons why
I stated, and I like Duke when I was ten
years old, seven years before s even arrived, and they
hang on a title when they were first title the
ninety one I get that time out.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
You and I had been a Duke fan for almost
twenty years.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
We understand that.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Now you have some type of loyalty and passion for
Duke basketball. I believe every ounce of loyalty, consistent year
in and year out, loyalty and passion should be reserved
for one team and one team only.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
If you want to.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Reserve some of that pie, two percent, five percent, whatever
it is for Duke basketball, that's on you. But people
like me and Jackson, our loyalty stays with one team.
And if there's going to be a team that we
do potentially root for because our team's out of it.
That will be decided by the context of the situation.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
We have no loyalty particular that or that directly contradicts
what you just said minutes ago when you said one
for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
No, it does not.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Okay, when you said, you're not you're not You're not
understanding man, When you said pick one for the rest
of your life or not?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yes, when you said pick one for the rest of okay.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
First of all, First of all, I know you're sixty
and your hearing starting to go.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Okay, did you say did you or did you not
play the tape? Did you say pick one.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
For the rest team?
Speaker 8 (32:14):
One team?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
One team?
Speaker 6 (32:17):
No, that's not what I'm saying, said the rest of
your life. I thought you meant pick one for the
rest of your life. I don't know why I would
be confused that way.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
If you would listen, are you Are you willing and
able to listen?
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Go ahead, tuck yourself out of this because you're talking
out of both sides of your mouth.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
There's no talking out of anything. Did you you're a
part just time you said time?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Time complete opposite.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
You said pick one for the rest of your life,
and then you said you you just pick based on
the circumstance on a year.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
To your basis, those are polar opposite takes.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
So yes, please and life you are you are cherry
picking the words that come out of my mouth, and
you were disregarding the words that you don't want to
hear what I just said to you, if you would
listen and open up your ear canals, turn up your
hearing aids okay, change your diaper. I'm telling you right
now that the consistent loyalty, year in and year out,
(33:11):
consistent loyalty and passion belongs to one team. You want
to have a team every now and then based on
the context that you say, yeah, I'd liked like last year,
Jackson and I both said we'd like to see the
Buffalo Bills win.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, okay, but that was just because of the context
of the year.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
That had nothing to do with any consistent passion or loyalty.
In general terms, I could not give a damn of
Buffalo wins. Consistent passion and rock solid loyalty. That kind
of passion only is reserved for one team, not for
a second place, not for a third place.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Well, okay, that's your take. I would say this, Washington
hasn't been in the tournament enough, so if I want
to enjoy college basketball, it's natural to have a team
that you might avitate too. Well, for the reasons I said,
because they were North Carolina's rival back in the early seventies.
(34:07):
When I realized I couldn't stand Dean Smith, that's when
Duke became one of my teams.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I just got a text.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I just got a text from a Cougar buddy of
mine who says, you'r a Husky pal. Doesn't make any sense.
I have no number two and never will period story.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Okay, all right, well then what does he do? What
does he do when the Cougars don't make the tournament?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
He's miserable like he's supposed to be.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
And you can't find it.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
You can't, you can't find any joy in rooting for
another team. My dad went to Michigan break and I'm
a Michigan fan. So if the Huskies aren't playing Michigan,
did you say Michigan's your number two?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I say this, I have a number two too. In
college football, Michigan. I don't have a number two, I
have number break. Got a break, we gotta got a
break break. You know what, You're right, I am missing out.
How about how about I just find number three and
number four, number five. All I'm out of two. We're
gonna break more with you. In for Dick next on
ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
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Speaker 1 (35:24):
All right, Hugh, the tax lines blowing up with the
reaction to the previous segment. That'll be appropriate to check
the text line little sloppy seconds. We'd like to call
him sloppy seconds here on the radio show. Whatever we
can't fit in for textimonials become sloppy seconds, Baby Jackson.
(35:45):
Hugh Millin has revealed the world he's a gigantic Husky fan,
but Duke basketball number two on his list roots for
Duke basketball. I say that's nonsense. I say in general terms,
one team you root for and one team only. You
want to root for a team based on context. Maybe
you gotta bet, maybe you got a buddy's kid playing form,
(36:08):
maybe you like a story. Right changes from year to year,
but in general terms, you have one team and one
team only that you consistently are allowed to root for.
And Hugh Millen has revealed he has two no better
than Dick fannom you ask me.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Well, first of all the whole Gonzaga things. That is
patently different, because Gonzaga is a recruiting rival to Washington,
or at least they should be a recruiting rival. Duke
is on the other end of the country in the ACC.
And by the way, when I first started rooting for them,
they were twelve in nineteen seventy three. They were twelve
(36:47):
and fourteen, then ten sixteen, then thirteen and thirteen, then
thirteen and fourteen, then fourteen and thirteen. This is years
before Cisseski even arrived on the team.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
And just so if you want to stay well, you know, this.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Is not like jumping on to a Yankee bandwagon or something.
I was rooting for him because they were North Carolina's rival,
and only for that purpose, alright, then it evolved into
other things. When Quinn Snyder, the local kid, badass, freaking
kid from m I, was the starting point guard for
a Final four duke team. That's when it really started
(37:18):
to accelerate.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Hey, here, I got some bad news. Your Yankees lost
to the Tigers today in Detroit. Jackson, what's the text
line saying, Okay, let's get.
Speaker 11 (37:27):
Off a few of these in a row here, just
so we can fit these in. Uh funny you mentioned
the word bandwagon you it's four two to five.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Man.
Speaker 11 (37:34):
I thought, with Dick out for the week, we were
gonna have some knowledgeable humillin. Instead we got bandwagon billy
who doesn't.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Bad wagon billy?
Speaker 11 (37:47):
Alright, let's say in the other side though, the other
side from the two six SAFTI does this all the time,
change the rules midstream and then doesn't understand why people
don't understand the rules. Then next thing, he doesn't start
calling people names like wearing hearing aids, wearing diapers and
things like that.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Well, it's.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Sixty years, it's childish analyses. It's okay, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Fallacies, I got a phallusy shove it right up your ass.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
What's next, Jackson? I think it's not Hughes.
Speaker 11 (38:24):
I was a Vikings fan for years before the Hawks existed.
They were my first love, so they're my solid two
after the Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Right now, he can the two. You can have a two.
Can't have it two, you can have it two.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Nope, all right, anything else, Jackson?
Speaker 11 (38:39):
I mean so many things, as huge, drunk, what a poser?
Speaker 5 (38:46):
I mean so much, so much name calling for both
I do.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I do appreciate the confidence that you have in yourself
and your conviction that you are willing to reveal this
to the world.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
You know what I get I get it, I understand.
Speaker 6 (39:01):
I mean Dukes is really you're a Duke fan, so
waity toity, when did that come about?
Speaker 5 (39:07):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
We know you're Florida tonight because you're pissed off that
Houston beat Duke and your son goes to Florida. So
you're a son and you're going You're going Gators all
the way tonight, I assume, Yeah, no doubt, yep, all right,
we'll get a break.
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