May 16, 2025 • 25 mins
In the fouth hour, Dave Softy Mahler, Dick Fain and Jackson Felts play some You Make the Call, reacting to some texts from listeners, then chat with John Canzano of the Bald Faced Truth about the sale of the Portland Blazers and what it means for the Seahawks.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we are back here, John Gonzano joining us
in about twenty minutes here on the radio show. What
does the Blazer sale mean for the eventual sale which
will happen at some point right of the Seattle Seahawks.
We'll talk to John about that coming up in about
twenty minutes right here on ninety three to three KJRFM.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
But before that, how about the mini version.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Of you make the call?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yeah, yeah, baby, you feel like we haven't put Jackson
to work enough today? Four nine, four or five to one?
What do you got there?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Okay, phill great?
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Five four to one.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I don't care what anybody says. Uh the Thunder. The
Thunder losing to the heat should absolutely have won this bracket.
You guys are clearly not big enough thunder haters.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Okay, well, so what was the what was the matchup there?
Because they did not make it out of the summis?
Is that correct?
Speaker 5 (00:46):
They did not make got to say it was the
chiefs thing? God, it was the what the eventual winner
a chief out.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
The the Niners blowing a ten point lead, that's what
knocked out. It's the heat and thunder and then they
have actually won. Got you?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
I mean, yes, I mean my my hate for the
Thunder is pretty equivalent to my hate for the Ducks,
and I hate for the Niners.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I just happen to choose.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I mean, there's they're all like on a scale of
one to ten, they're very, very close to like a
nine point seventy five.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh that's a good question. Now, man, God, it's hard team.
What team do you know? For me?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It's not hard. It's the Ducks number one. But the
problem is it's not just about who do you hate more.
I hate the Ducks more than anything on the face
of the earth. I won't even eat duck. And when
I go to a park and I see a duck,
I want to shoot it. Okay, Thunder and the forty
nine Ers, So those three teams, but Oregon's number one.
The problem is, then you're talking about the context of
that particular game, right like the Thunder. If the Thunder
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ever blew like a twenty point lead in the fourth
quarter of Game seven.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Of the NBA pass that was the equivalent.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
That's super different. That's different.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So when the Niners blow a ten point lead, I
can say, why you would take the Niners. I voted
for burn Over Oregon, though, yeah, I voted for Auburn.
So I think people need to understand when we do
these brackets, this is about the show, how the show feels,
and the two thirds majority what out. So don't bitch
it me bitch a Dick and Jackson.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
And it's also about like, there's different entities that you
can hate, right. You can hate the you can hate
the logo, right, just the franchise, the team. You can
hate the fan base, you can hate the players. And
when it comes to what what players I hate the most,
I mean it's probably San Francisco, right. When it comes
to the logo, it might be Oregon, you know, but
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just the bitterness of Oklahoma City, it's.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, the difference is this. I actually got a text
about this from a buddy of mine. The difference for
me is that if the thunder ever won the NBA title,
I can just kind of run and stick my head
in the sand and just ignore it. I can't ignore
the Ducks winning because I would just be inundated. I
would hear it every single freaking day.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Man, they're the worst fan base, I mean city fans,
because Oklahoma Sindy fans buy a large for a large
part realize they better shut their trap when talking to
Seattle's you better.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Shut your mouth and all it's shut up for you,
all right, what's.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
The next make the call?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Two of six.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I think you guys are forgetting a lot about the
Lillard moment because you is the moment, bracket And and
as you are saying, Lillard stuck his hand out, waved
the thunder and then stared down the camera.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And then said this is for Seattle. Hey, I get it.
I mean again, guys, don't forget. This is not about
us not acknowledging the importance of these other moments. We
are literally asking ourselves to pick between two things that
we love, right, like asking Dick, choose your son or
your daughter?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You gotta pick one, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I mean, if there's a if we did a bracket
and included your wife, your son, your daughter, and your
mom and dad and your brother, yeah, I mean, somebody's
gotta win eventually, somebody's got loose.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Okay. And by the way, that might be a hell
of a bracket one day.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Right, Well, ask Dick to pick his favorite family member
of all time. But this is not too disparage or
discourage people from voting for the Lithard shot.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I could. I could absolutely see a.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Point where somebody would say, hey, softy, what if you
looked up more on YouTube the Damien Lithard game winner
or the game winning field goal by Auburn.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
The answer is Damian Lillard. Yeah, by far, yes, by far? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I called it during the bracket I said, that is
as far as sports moments, that is the greatest sports
moment that I have had in the last twenty years
as a Seattle sports fan. That didn't Seattle team, but
the Chiefs beating the Niners in the Super Bowl. While
it wasn't like a singular moment per se, it was it.
(04:44):
I think it just means more right, it's a sure
Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
What was the thunder.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Gables choked away.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Litter was first round? Is that correct? Okay?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Right, so we're talking about a Super Bowl championship where
you led by ten, which means certain forty nine er
fans were probably online and starting.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
To buy gears.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Absolutely right, they were saving money, like the Falcons were
definitely doing that in the at halftime.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
But Niner fans, there were some Niner fans like this
is over and.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Dad, dad, we're gonna win a championship and then nope,
sudden they took it away from us. So I think
that with the with the with the context of the
Super Bowl being the biggest sporting event in American sports,
and the kick and the testes that the Niner fans
took in that fourth quarter, I could see why you
would say San Francisco, and.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
It gave us this feeling now, and it gave us
this difficult before they were so close, so close. All right,
couple more Jackson.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Sure, at the risk of so excited about it, at
the risk of opening this sub because there's only a
couple of minutes here, I'm going to read this anyway.
Saute's disdain for Gonzaga is just bizarre. What did Mark
Few do to you?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Okay, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I am so sick and tired of having to explain
this to you people every single year, every single month,
every single day on this radio show. You know what
I might do, Dick, to be towly honest, when you
make this easy on you in the audience, I might
just get my reasoning for this whole entire thing tattooed
on my face. Like Mike Tyson, I'm gonna get a
tattoo on my face. So we hate the Oregon Ducks
and the hatred.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Let me ask you a question. When Oregon was beating.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Washington football twelve years in a row, did your disdain
for Oregon grow or decrease?
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I think, I mean it at least stayed the same,
if not, but non increased. I think it's worse though,
when both teams are okay, I think for Oregon's worst
when both teams are good.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Jack soon, let me ask you the same question. When
Oregon's kicking our ass for twelve years in a row,
did your animosity towards Oregon increase or did it decrease?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Increased?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So Gonzaga is doing the same thing to me on
the basketball court for like ten years in a row,
kicking my ass every single year in my state, owning
the state of Washington, A small seven thousand student Jesuit
college is beating the best out of my favorite basketball
team with fifty thousand kids, And you asked me.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
You asked me the same question.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Did my animosity for Gonzaga increase or decrease?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
During that time? It increased financially, And so now you
want me to go away?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And just say, oh, well, it's it's done, the series
is over there, and play the hell with them. I
was trained, and I was I was, I was brainwashed,
maybe even in some ways you want to call that
this fine. To hate the Gonzaga Bulldogs. It makes me
sick to my stomach. How much they own the state
of Washington. It makes me sick to my stomach. How
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the local media in Seattle treats them like they're in
my backyard when they're three hundred god darned miles away.
It makes me sick. How people have embraced this basketball team.
And I'll be totally honest with you, it would not
make me as sick if I wasn't sitting here every
day next to a guy who loved him more than
anybody I know besides my buddy Jeremy.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And that's it. Well there, good enough for you people.
I mean, but kept.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
When they didn't even play, I mean that it didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Go because it all grew during It was like a
fungus man, okay, and all grew. Yes, it turned me
into a zombie and it never went away. I cannot
stand them, and I want them to go away. Enough
is enough. They never ever should have gotten to the
point where they're at. Well, Washington at the same time
is taking a back seat looking at them dominant the
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state of Washington. All right, we're gonna break. John Gonzano's
gonna join us. Next segment. I did a freaking break.
By the way, John Gonzona will join us. What does
the selle the Blazers mean for the future of the Seahawks.
We'll find out next on KJR WAD.
Speaker 7 (08:27):
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Speaker 1 (08:42):
All right, we are back at a busy Friday night
right here on ninety three to three at KJRFM. Lots
to get to obviously before we get out of here
at seven o'clock. But the news of the week, at
least down south in Portland, Oregon. The Blazers are for sale. Dick,
you want to buy him? You got about three or
four billion dollars sitting around Raezers can be yours, my friend.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
The investment, there's no question about that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
No question.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I think there is a guy that we know that
can afford to do that, and that's our friend John
Gonzano from John Canzono.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I's how you met Phila.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Kil's already said he's done.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
That's right, Okay, that's that's that's what Phil calls Gonzano money.
It is with us right now in the radio program, John,
how are you man?
Speaker 8 (09:19):
I'm doing well. I'm doing well.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Do you believe do you believe Phil Knight when he
says he's done or is he playing poker here? No?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I do not believe that whatsoever, because I think that
would be a gigantic feather and Oregon's cap for their
biggest donor to own an NBA basketball team.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Don't you.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (09:32):
And I think everything he does is legacy, right, I
mean he's everything at Nike, everything with Oregon, everything that
he has set up Stanford, even what he's done with
the business school and his other alma mater. Everything's about
legacy to him. And so I don't buy for a
second that at age eighty two he had all the
energy in the world and at age eighty seven, oh
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suddenly I'm too old. I think there's a little gamesmanship
going on here.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
So what do you think, what do you think the
reasoning is?
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Then I think I think that look at the original
offer he made, and he you know, he got pissed
off when Jody Allen, he made the original offer with
Alan Simlinsky and the Dodgers, and Jody Allen didn't even
return the call, didn't say hey, let's go have lunch,
didn't say, hey, this is really flattered that you'd make
the offer. We'll circle back when we when the team
is actually for sale. No, the Blazer sent out the
(10:20):
news release. They basically told him to pound sand the
team's not for sale, and then came, hey, it might
not be for sale for ten to twenty years, you
eighty two year old guy, Like they basically were telling
him to go die without the basketball team. And then
and then he dispatches Larry Miller, his lieutenant at Nike,
(10:40):
to go to the New York Post and the Wall
Street Journal, and you saw the story start to pop
up about what a bad owner Jody is and how
the the atmosphere was toxic. It was that these are
billionaires in pseudo billionaires fighting and I think him coming
out very early in this process to say I'm not
interested is designed to remove some leverage from her potential sale,
(11:02):
and if he wants to come back in later, I bet.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You he kid well.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
This is obviously a Blazer basketball team that has not
been good for a while now, and I would assume
that this was a welcomed piece of news for Blazer
Nation that Jody Allen is selling the Blazers or were
there people that were kind of bummed out by this?
Speaker 8 (11:20):
Nobody was bummed.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
I mean, it's very different than the atmosphere with Jody
around the Seahawks, right. It's one thing where I like,
It's not that I don't understand it, because I think
she really likes the Seahawks, and I think she feels
connected to the Seahawks, and it's the Seahawks are a
Seattle thing, the Blazers are a Portland thing. She doesn't
look like she's enjoying herself at the games. It never
was viewed as like this is something I really love.
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It was there was her brother's hobby having an NBA team,
and so she has had to be the trustee of
this thing. And the Blazer fans have felt that this
organization's been on autopilot since Paul died in twenty eighteen,
and status quo, and you know they haven't been in
the playoffs. They you know, have the city can't name
a player on the roster, and you've got, you know,
(12:04):
just this autopilot thing going on where they renewed Chauncey Billips,
they renew the general manager Joe Cronin, and it's just
like status quo, status quo, and then she announces the
team comes out and says, hey, We're gonna be for sale,
and it was like, you know, it wasn't like the
seventy seven championship parade, but it was a pretty sunny
day in Portland.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Well, why do you think John, And we'll get to
the Seahawk angle here in a second, because obviously up
here in Seattle, and again John Gonzana with us on
a Friday night here on ninety three three KJARFM, when
the word comes out to the Blazers are for sale,
the next natural question is, well, what about the Seahawks? Right,
So we'll get to that in a minute. But why
do you think that the Allen Family Foundation trustee, whether
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it's Paul or Jody or whoever, had so much success
with the Seahawks but could not duplicate that down there.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
I think some of it has to do with the league.
You can small market teams in the NFL can compete.
The Chiefs can compete. The Titans if they want to,
can compete. Everybody's got the same amount of money. The
league is based set up for pair. We know that,
you know, the worst team get gets the first draft
pick and the easiest schedule the following season. The NBA
is slanted so heavily for the big market teams. You
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have to get lucky in the lottery or you have
to have something really break your way to compete. And
I think the Blazers for years have just you know,
not been able to do that. The other thing is
Paul seemed to understand in his tenure in his lifetime
that he didn't know the NFL. And you know, he
hires John Schneider, he hires Pete Carroll, and he made
he gets this interview remember that first Super Bowl. He
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did this interview with the New York Times, and he said,
you know, I don't really know the NFL. I kind
of stay out of it, but I know basketball and
Blazer fans were like, oh, we don't want to hear that,
Like just hire good basketball people and get out of
the way like you did with football. But I think
the biggest difference simply was it's just easier in the
NFL to compete. You know, you know, if you hire
good people, you're going to be competitive, and I think
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the Seahawks have done that.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
John Canzano joining us John. I think when the Blazer
news came out, I think half of Seattle thought about
what it meant for the Seahawks. I think the other
half thought about what it meant for NBA expansion, because
the Celtics got in the way of expansion for Seattle
and potentially pushed it back as much as a year.
But does the Blazers sale maybe help expedite the expansion process.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
So we had christianel on this week.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
He said, you know, the Allen estate would much rather
have expansion valuation set before selling their team.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Do you agree?
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Yeah, And I think the Celtics sale did a good
job of getting those expansion valuations, you know, inflated, right
six point one billion dollars. I think there's a little
bit of a fear with the league owners that a
small market team like Portland that hasn't had a lot
of recent success would you know, he is going to
sell in the four billion four and a half billion
range and may bring those expansion fees down a little bit. Also,
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there's only so many people and you guys joked about
it at the beginning, there's only so many people out
there that have, you know, three or four billion dollars
sitting around that they can go invest. You have to
be worth fifteen or twenty billion in order to come
in as a majority owner with a team. Otherwise you're
just looking at you know, if you put in fifty
million dollars or you get in one percent two percent
of a team, you don't get no, say for fifty
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million dollars five hundred million, you could still be part
of it, but you have no cachet. Are you getting
seats at a game for a five hundred million dollars
buy in? Probably, you know when you make a call,
but you're not sitting on the baseline like you're Mark Cuban.
So I think there's a little bit of apprehension right
now that you know you've had the Phoenix sale, you
had the Boston sale, now comes Portland. What does that
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do to the market for the expansion teams and does
the NBA need a little bit of space after the
Portland sale to kind of get like.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
Wet the appetite again, or do they go right away.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Some of it may depend on how many bidders are
out there for the Blazers, because you know, I do
think that some of the potential expansion bidders or some
of the minority investors in those in those groups, would
be interested in getting into Portland because I think there's
more upside in Portland than maybe in Vegas. I think
Vegas is going to be so overcooked at the valuation that,
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you know, a smaller market team that has no success
only has one championship selling for four or four point
five billion versus a six billion dollar team in Vegas.
There might just be more money to be made for
an investment group. So I'll be really interested to kind
of see how that tracks. But there's nothing coming after
the Blazers. All these other franchises appear to be set.
So I think Adam Silver here in you know, the
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NBA Finals coming up where he does his court in
his State of the Union address, I think he's gonna
have to say, hey, with the TV deals done, the
Celtics got done. The Blazers are gonna get done. And
you know the question is how soon for expansion with
Vegas and Seattle?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Well, John Gonzano's with us.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
And again you hear the name Jody Allen, you hear
the name Blazers, you hear the word sale. You think, okay,
what's going on with the Seahawks now? So they've said
that the Seahawks are not for sale. I think you
reported a couple of years back or a couple months back,
that there's something in the agreement with the estate that
says eventually the teams do all have to be sold.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Is that accurate? Number one? And if it is accurate,
what's the timeline for that? You think for Jody and
the Seahawks.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
Yeah, they have to be sold. Everything has to be liquidated.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
And you know, some source I was talking with in
Seattle just this week said that, you know, they would
expect that they want just like with the NBA teams. Again,
there's only so many people out there that can go
and buy these billion, multi billion dollar entities. There's somebody
who's gonna want the Seahawks in Is that number eight billion?
Speaker 8 (17:17):
Is it nine billion? We will see.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
There's also some question about Jody, Like, you know, I
know that you know, she probably doesn't have the funds
to come in as the majority owner. But does she
want to stay involved with the Seahawks? Does she want
a minority stake? There could be something at play there
because she does look much more comfortable we're in the
twelve jersey or raising the flag or being you know,
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at the Seattle Seahawks games with her friends and family.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
So you know, I think she's gonna have a little
harder time letting go of that.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
And there was a timeline that the Seahawks couldn't be
sold before a particular timeline because of a payment.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (17:53):
But we're past that, Is that right, John?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:54):
And I had somebody tell me that this may really
does put it in the book. So it's you know,
we're right in that wheelhouse where it was ten percent.
They had to give ten percent of the sale back
to the city if it's sold in that time period.
So they're going to get outside of that window. And
you know, I don't think it's going to be a
long time before you hear about, you know, the Seahawks
coming down the pipeline. But they may wait, especially because
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if there's an expansion basketball team coming into Seattle. Do
you want to cannibalize a potential investment group or investors
when you know you're going to put the NFL team
up for bid as well?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
So what's your gut diet? I want to pin you down,
John John Gonzana with us. I mean, you mentioned it.
You know Paul Allen passed away? What seven years ago?
Correct in twenty eighteen. Well, it's amazing, it's been seven years.
So what is your gut next summer? Two summers from
now twenty twenty eight, give us a prediction on when
you think we're going to have a new owner for
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the Seahawks.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
I went to twenty twenty eight in my mind because
you know, I have not seen the estate documents, but
there's something in the language I am told that says
the teams have to be so. And I kind of
wonder if that deadline, because they originally put out ten
to twenty years to settle the estate. I wondered if
it was a ten year thing from his death in
October of twenty eighteen. So I'm looking at and it
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does give you some space. It gives you enough time
if you are Jody and Bert to sell the Blazers
and then pivot into Okay, how did that go?
Speaker 8 (19:20):
What did we learn from it?
Speaker 6 (19:21):
How do we approach the Seahawks as a potential sale
and get this. I'm also told that there's a little
bit of a potential commission in the Blazers sale for
one Burt Cold.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
So again we'll come back to like, do you take
a holistic approach?
Speaker 6 (19:36):
If your Jody Allen, do you want to sell it
to somebody who's got ties to Portland like Phil Knight?
Speaker 8 (19:41):
Or do you just want the maximum bid? You know,
I don't give a rip.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
I just want to get the most money I can
possibly get, and I think I know where Bert's heart
would be.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Well on to your point of the massive whales in
the Pacific Northwest. Are we just putting a list of
names of everybody worth over fifty billion dollars into a
hat and just pulling it out, or do you actually
have one or two names that you think are viable candidates.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
For that for that sale?
Speaker 6 (20:08):
It's the usual billionaires, right, But I don't think it
necessarily has to go back to somebody in the Pacific Northwest,
And people in Portland are kind of freaking out. They're going,
we want local ownership, and I'm like, you've never had
local ownership. Larry Weinberg lived in la He owned the
Blazers first of all. Then Paul was a Seattle guy.
He owned the Blazers. I mean, there are just very
few people within your zip code who are gonna be
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able to say, I'm gonna come in. I've got a
couple of billion, three billion, four billion, I'll be the
majority owner, and I want this thing, you know.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
In the Blazers.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
The Blazers sale is potentially an interesting one because it's
not just the building and it's not just the franchise.
There's also some surrounding development opportunity. Anybody's ever been to
Moda Center to see a Blazer game know that that
you don't have like an entertainment district around it. And
Paul's estate at one point held a lot of real
estate surrounding the arena.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
I don't know if it's been liquidate it. I don't
know if it.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Could be part of this sale, but I think there's
a real development opportunity for somebody. You can have an
entertainment district. People in Portland obviously afraid somebody's gonna buy
the team and move it to Seattle, or buy and
move it to Vegas.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
I don't see that happening.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
I don't think the league's owners are gonna want to
cannibalize a six billion dollar expansion fee in Seattle or Vegas.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
They're gonna want those to be expansion teams.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
And if you're bringing a team back to Seattle, the
biggest sin of David Stearn's tenure getting letting that team leave.
If you're gonna bring a team back to Seattle, you
need Portland. I just think it's a natural rivalry.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
No, totally.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Well, John Canzona with us Shawn Gonzano dot com on
Twitter at John Cainzano BFT.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I know you're gonna run in a second.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
By the way, you get the John's account, you can
read an article about it's Italian grandmother and her famous
meat sauce, which I hope somebody passed that down to you,
By the way, because that sounds I got it.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I got it. But before you go, give us.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Just kind of an update on what's important right now
for Collwege football fans, not just locally in the Northwest,
but nationally. In your opinion to keep an eye on
what's what's the top of mind for you. With college
football and even college basketball, I get.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
So bored talking about like the house settlement and all
this other stuff and NIL and everybody complaining and whining
about the portal. But the biggest thing that I think
is top of mind for me is the enforcement of
whatever system they're gonna put in place. It cannot be
this weak, toothless NCAA like enforcement. It's gotta have real teeth.
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If it doesn't have teeth, you will not be able
to compete. And I look at schools like Washington I
look at schools like Washington State, Oregon State, you know,
everybody but Oregon, and I go, hey, if there's not enforcement,
they're just the ducks are just gonna run away with it.
But if there is real enforcement, and you've got a
real cap and you're gonna have legitimate nil deals, and
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they're gonna sit come in and go Nope, that's not
a real deal. You can't just pay a kid to
turn on the automatic sprinklers like the old days. If
they're gonna do that, then then schools have a chance,
and maybe it has a chance to feel like a
little bit more like the NFL, where you know, some
teams in some outlying places that aren't the usual powers
that they have a chance to win.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Big John, you're the man. I know you gotta run.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Great stuff. Enjoy the weekend, buddy. We'll talk soon, pal.
Thanks by Sean, Thanks Phyllis all right, John Gonzano again,
John Gonzono BFT on Twitter, Johnkinzono dot com. And you
know it's funny, Dick what he just said there about
you can't just pay a kid to turn their sprinklers
on anymore or watch paint dry.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I guess my reaction would be why not?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I mean, why why have we not seen like a
paint company come out with an endorsement and like like
the Maytag repair guy just sat there and did nothing.
This is this kid's job to watch this paint dry
like his daddy and granddaddy did back in the nineteen
fifties and thirties, and just get paid to watch paint dry,
to make sure it's dry.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It's drying property that is Jesus is Jesus.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
How how great would a commercial be of demand?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Williams just staring at a wall, yes and just and
it's like it's valspar paint or whatever. And it's just
like Demannoians for valspar paint. And he's just staring at
the wall watching the paint drives Peo he was.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Thinking about plays in his head at the same time,
or he's watching the sprinklers go off. I mean, come on,
and why not? I mean, Millane, I'll tell you about
the jobs he had back in college. For God's sakes,
all right, let's do this good stuff from John. Interesting
to hear him, he thinks, by twenty twenty eight, so
you know, two and a half years, three years, whatever,
we're going to have a new owner.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
For the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Obviously would be just the fourth maybe the third owner
since the north Stroms, because it was Bearing and then
it was Paul and now whoever the mystery candidate is.
But is it important for the Seahawks to be bought
by somebody who's in the Northwest currently?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I mean, look, if.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Jeff Bezos bought the Seahawks right like it's we all
know he just packed up and moved to Florida, that's
fine by me. As long as it's somebody who's got
a passion for Seattle, had a passion to keep the
Seahawks in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I don't think this is nineteen seventy five or nineteen
eighty anymore. You don't have to have that guy living
in your backyard like you did maybe thirty five or
four forty years ago. But I would like to see
whoever the new owner is going to be have some
kind of connection dick to the area.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
That would be ideal.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
What's more important to me than that is just general
competence and an absolute passion and unfettered drive to win championships. Sure,
of course, because when you look at it, all starts
with ownership. Look at the NFL. Look at the NFL's
worst run teams. They are always the teams that are
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picking top five in the draft. Every single year. It's
the same group of teams.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Let's get a break.
All right, we are back here, John Gonzano joining us
in about twenty minutes here on the radio show. What
does the Blazer sale mean for the eventual sale which
will happen at some point right of the Seattle Seahawks.
We'll talk to John about that coming up in about
twenty minutes right here on ninety three to three KJRFM.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
But before that, how about the mini version.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Of you make the call?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yeah, yeah, baby, you feel like we haven't put Jackson
to work enough today? Four nine, four or five to one?
What do you got there?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Okay, phill great?
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Five four to one.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I don't care what anybody says. Uh the Thunder. The
Thunder losing to the heat should absolutely have won this bracket.
You guys are clearly not big enough thunder haters.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Okay, well, so what was the what was the matchup there?
Because they did not make it out of the summis?
Is that correct?
Speaker 5 (00:46):
They did not make got to say it was the
chiefs thing? God, it was the what the eventual winner
a chief out.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
The the Niners blowing a ten point lead, that's what
knocked out. It's the heat and thunder and then they
have actually won. Got you?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
I mean, yes, I mean my my hate for the
Thunder is pretty equivalent to my hate for the Ducks,
and I hate for the Niners.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I just happen to choose.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I mean, there's they're all like on a scale of
one to ten, they're very, very close to like a
nine point seventy five.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh that's a good question. Now, man, God, it's hard team.
What team do you know? For me?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It's not hard. It's the Ducks number one. But the
problem is it's not just about who do you hate more.
I hate the Ducks more than anything on the face
of the earth. I won't even eat duck. And when
I go to a park and I see a duck,
I want to shoot it. Okay, Thunder and the forty
nine Ers, So those three teams, but Oregon's number one.
The problem is, then you're talking about the context of
that particular game, right like the Thunder. If the Thunder
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ever blew like a twenty point lead in the fourth
quarter of Game seven.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Of the NBA pass that was the equivalent.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
That's super different. That's different.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So when the Niners blow a ten point lead, I
can say, why you would take the Niners. I voted
for burn Over Oregon, though, yeah, I voted for Auburn.
So I think people need to understand when we do
these brackets, this is about the show, how the show feels,
and the two thirds majority what out. So don't bitch
it me bitch a Dick and Jackson.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
And it's also about like, there's different entities that you
can hate, right. You can hate the you can hate
the logo, right, just the franchise, the team. You can
hate the fan base, you can hate the players. And
when it comes to what what players I hate the most,
I mean it's probably San Francisco, right. When it comes
to the logo, it might be Oregon, you know, but
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just the bitterness of Oklahoma City, it's.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, the difference is this. I actually got a text
about this from a buddy of mine. The difference for
me is that if the thunder ever won the NBA title,
I can just kind of run and stick my head
in the sand and just ignore it. I can't ignore
the Ducks winning because I would just be inundated. I
would hear it every single freaking day.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Man, they're the worst fan base, I mean city fans,
because Oklahoma Sindy fans buy a large for a large
part realize they better shut their trap when talking to
Seattle's you better.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Shut your mouth and all it's shut up for you,
all right, what's.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
The next make the call?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Two of six.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I think you guys are forgetting a lot about the
Lillard moment because you is the moment, bracket And and
as you are saying, Lillard stuck his hand out, waved
the thunder and then stared down the camera.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And then said this is for Seattle. Hey, I get it.
I mean again, guys, don't forget. This is not about
us not acknowledging the importance of these other moments. We
are literally asking ourselves to pick between two things that
we love, right, like asking Dick, choose your son or
your daughter?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You gotta pick one, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I mean, if there's a if we did a bracket
and included your wife, your son, your daughter, and your
mom and dad and your brother, yeah, I mean, somebody's
gotta win eventually, somebody's got loose.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Okay. And by the way, that might be a hell
of a bracket one day.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Right, Well, ask Dick to pick his favorite family member
of all time. But this is not too disparage or
discourage people from voting for the Lithard shot.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I could. I could absolutely see a.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Point where somebody would say, hey, softy, what if you
looked up more on YouTube the Damien Lithard game winner
or the game winning field goal by Auburn.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
The answer is Damian Lillard. Yeah, by far, yes, by far? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I called it during the bracket I said, that is
as far as sports moments, that is the greatest sports
moment that I have had in the last twenty years
as a Seattle sports fan. That didn't Seattle team, but
the Chiefs beating the Niners in the Super Bowl. While
it wasn't like a singular moment per se, it was it.
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I think it just means more right, it's a sure
Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
What was the thunder.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Gables choked away.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Litter was first round? Is that correct? Okay?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Right, so we're talking about a Super Bowl championship where
you led by ten, which means certain forty nine er
fans were probably online and starting.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
To buy gears.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Absolutely right, they were saving money, like the Falcons were
definitely doing that in the at halftime.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
But Niner fans, there were some Niner fans like this
is over and.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Dad, dad, we're gonna win a championship and then nope,
sudden they took it away from us. So I think
that with the with the with the context of the
Super Bowl being the biggest sporting event in American sports,
and the kick and the testes that the Niner fans
took in that fourth quarter, I could see why you
would say San Francisco, and.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
It gave us this feeling now, and it gave us
this difficult before they were so close, so close. All right,
couple more Jackson.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Sure, at the risk of so excited about it, at
the risk of opening this sub because there's only a
couple of minutes here, I'm going to read this anyway.
Saute's disdain for Gonzaga is just bizarre. What did Mark
Few do to you?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Okay, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I am so sick and tired of having to explain
this to you people every single year, every single month,
every single day on this radio show. You know what
I might do, Dick, to be towly honest, when you
make this easy on you in the audience, I might
just get my reasoning for this whole entire thing tattooed
on my face. Like Mike Tyson, I'm gonna get a
tattoo on my face. So we hate the Oregon Ducks
and the hatred.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Let me ask you a question. When Oregon was beating.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Washington football twelve years in a row, did your disdain
for Oregon grow or decrease?
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I think, I mean it at least stayed the same,
if not, but non increased. I think it's worse though,
when both teams are okay, I think for Oregon's worst
when both teams are good.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Jack soon, let me ask you the same question. When
Oregon's kicking our ass for twelve years in a row,
did your animosity towards Oregon increase or did it decrease?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Increased?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So Gonzaga is doing the same thing to me on
the basketball court for like ten years in a row,
kicking my ass every single year in my state, owning
the state of Washington, A small seven thousand student Jesuit
college is beating the best out of my favorite basketball
team with fifty thousand kids, And you asked me.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
You asked me the same question.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Did my animosity for Gonzaga increase or decrease?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
During that time? It increased financially, And so now you
want me to go away?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And just say, oh, well, it's it's done, the series
is over there, and play the hell with them. I
was trained, and I was I was, I was brainwashed,
maybe even in some ways you want to call that
this fine. To hate the Gonzaga Bulldogs. It makes me
sick to my stomach. How much they own the state
of Washington. It makes me sick to my stomach. How
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the local media in Seattle treats them like they're in
my backyard when they're three hundred god darned miles away.
It makes me sick. How people have embraced this basketball team.
And I'll be totally honest with you, it would not
make me as sick if I wasn't sitting here every
day next to a guy who loved him more than
anybody I know besides my buddy Jeremy.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And that's it. Well there, good enough for you people.
I mean, but kept.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
When they didn't even play, I mean that it didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Go because it all grew during It was like a
fungus man, okay, and all grew. Yes, it turned me
into a zombie and it never went away. I cannot
stand them, and I want them to go away. Enough
is enough. They never ever should have gotten to the
point where they're at. Well, Washington at the same time
is taking a back seat looking at them dominant the
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state of Washington. All right, we're gonna break. John Gonzano's
gonna join us. Next segment. I did a freaking break.
By the way, John Gonzona will join us. What does
the selle the Blazers mean for the future of the Seahawks.
We'll find out next on KJR WAD.
Speaker 7 (08:27):
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Speaker 1 (08:42):
All right, we are back at a busy Friday night
right here on ninety three to three at KJRFM. Lots
to get to obviously before we get out of here
at seven o'clock. But the news of the week, at
least down south in Portland, Oregon. The Blazers are for sale. Dick,
you want to buy him? You got about three or
four billion dollars sitting around Raezers can be yours, my friend.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
The investment, there's no question about that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
No question.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I think there is a guy that we know that
can afford to do that, and that's our friend John
Gonzano from John Canzono.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I's how you met Phila.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Kil's already said he's done.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
That's right, Okay, that's that's that's what Phil calls Gonzano money.
It is with us right now in the radio program, John,
how are you man?
Speaker 8 (09:19):
I'm doing well. I'm doing well.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Do you believe do you believe Phil Knight when he
says he's done or is he playing poker here? No?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I do not believe that whatsoever, because I think that
would be a gigantic feather and Oregon's cap for their
biggest donor to own an NBA basketball team.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Don't you.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (09:32):
And I think everything he does is legacy, right, I
mean he's everything at Nike, everything with Oregon, everything that
he has set up Stanford, even what he's done with
the business school and his other alma mater. Everything's about
legacy to him. And so I don't buy for a
second that at age eighty two he had all the
energy in the world and at age eighty seven, oh
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suddenly I'm too old. I think there's a little gamesmanship
going on here.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
So what do you think, what do you think the
reasoning is?
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Then I think I think that look at the original
offer he made, and he you know, he got pissed
off when Jody Allen, he made the original offer with
Alan Simlinsky and the Dodgers, and Jody Allen didn't even
return the call, didn't say hey, let's go have lunch,
didn't say, hey, this is really flattered that you'd make
the offer. We'll circle back when we when the team
is actually for sale. No, the Blazer sent out the
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news release. They basically told him to pound sand the
team's not for sale, and then came, hey, it might
not be for sale for ten to twenty years, you
eighty two year old guy, Like they basically were telling
him to go die without the basketball team. And then
and then he dispatches Larry Miller, his lieutenant at Nike,
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to go to the New York Post and the Wall
Street Journal, and you saw the story start to pop
up about what a bad owner Jody is and how
the the atmosphere was toxic. It was that these are
billionaires in pseudo billionaires fighting and I think him coming
out very early in this process to say I'm not
interested is designed to remove some leverage from her potential sale,
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and if he wants to come back in later, I bet.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You he kid well.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
This is obviously a Blazer basketball team that has not
been good for a while now, and I would assume
that this was a welcomed piece of news for Blazer
Nation that Jody Allen is selling the Blazers or were
there people that were kind of bummed out by this?
Speaker 8 (11:20):
Nobody was bummed.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
I mean, it's very different than the atmosphere with Jody
around the Seahawks, right. It's one thing where I like,
It's not that I don't understand it, because I think
she really likes the Seahawks, and I think she feels
connected to the Seahawks, and it's the Seahawks are a
Seattle thing, the Blazers are a Portland thing. She doesn't
look like she's enjoying herself at the games. It never
was viewed as like this is something I really love.
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It was there was her brother's hobby having an NBA team,
and so she has had to be the trustee of
this thing. And the Blazer fans have felt that this
organization's been on autopilot since Paul died in twenty eighteen,
and status quo, and you know they haven't been in
the playoffs. They you know, have the city can't name
a player on the roster, and you've got, you know,
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just this autopilot thing going on where they renewed Chauncey Billips,
they renew the general manager Joe Cronin, and it's just
like status quo, status quo, and then she announces the
team comes out and says, hey, We're gonna be for sale,
and it was like, you know, it wasn't like the
seventy seven championship parade, but it was a pretty sunny
day in Portland.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Well, why do you think John, And we'll get to
the Seahawk angle here in a second, because obviously up
here in Seattle, and again John Gonzana with us on
a Friday night here on ninety three three KJARFM, when
the word comes out to the Blazers are for sale,
the next natural question is, well, what about the Seahawks? Right,
So we'll get to that in a minute. But why
do you think that the Allen Family Foundation trustee, whether
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it's Paul or Jody or whoever, had so much success
with the Seahawks but could not duplicate that down there.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
I think some of it has to do with the league.
You can small market teams in the NFL can compete.
The Chiefs can compete. The Titans if they want to,
can compete. Everybody's got the same amount of money. The
league is based set up for pair. We know that,
you know, the worst team get gets the first draft
pick and the easiest schedule the following season. The NBA
is slanted so heavily for the big market teams. You
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have to get lucky in the lottery or you have
to have something really break your way to compete. And
I think the Blazers for years have just you know,
not been able to do that. The other thing is
Paul seemed to understand in his tenure in his lifetime
that he didn't know the NFL. And you know, he
hires John Schneider, he hires Pete Carroll, and he made
he gets this interview remember that first Super Bowl. He
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did this interview with the New York Times, and he said,
you know, I don't really know the NFL. I kind
of stay out of it, but I know basketball and
Blazer fans were like, oh, we don't want to hear that,
Like just hire good basketball people and get out of
the way like you did with football. But I think
the biggest difference simply was it's just easier in the
NFL to compete. You know, you know, if you hire
good people, you're going to be competitive, and I think
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the Seahawks have done that.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
John Canzano joining us John. I think when the Blazer
news came out, I think half of Seattle thought about
what it meant for the Seahawks. I think the other
half thought about what it meant for NBA expansion, because
the Celtics got in the way of expansion for Seattle
and potentially pushed it back as much as a year.
But does the Blazers sale maybe help expedite the expansion process.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
So we had christianel on this week.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
He said, you know, the Allen estate would much rather
have expansion valuation set before selling their team.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Do you agree?
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Yeah, And I think the Celtics sale did a good
job of getting those expansion valuations, you know, inflated, right
six point one billion dollars. I think there's a little
bit of a fear with the league owners that a
small market team like Portland that hasn't had a lot
of recent success would you know, he is going to
sell in the four billion four and a half billion
range and may bring those expansion fees down a little bit. Also,
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there's only so many people and you guys joked about
it at the beginning, there's only so many people out
there that have, you know, three or four billion dollars
sitting around that they can go invest. You have to
be worth fifteen or twenty billion in order to come
in as a majority owner with a team. Otherwise you're
just looking at you know, if you put in fifty
million dollars or you get in one percent two percent
of a team, you don't get no, say for fifty
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million dollars five hundred million, you could still be part
of it, but you have no cachet. Are you getting
seats at a game for a five hundred million dollars
buy in? Probably, you know when you make a call,
but you're not sitting on the baseline like you're Mark Cuban.
So I think there's a little bit of apprehension right
now that you know you've had the Phoenix sale, you
had the Boston sale, now comes Portland. What does that
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do to the market for the expansion teams and does
the NBA need a little bit of space after the
Portland sale to kind of get like.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
Wet the appetite again, or do they go right away.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Some of it may depend on how many bidders are
out there for the Blazers, because you know, I do
think that some of the potential expansion bidders or some
of the minority investors in those in those groups, would
be interested in getting into Portland because I think there's
more upside in Portland than maybe in Vegas. I think
Vegas is going to be so overcooked at the valuation that,
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you know, a smaller market team that has no success
only has one championship selling for four or four point
five billion versus a six billion dollar team in Vegas.
There might just be more money to be made for
an investment group. So I'll be really interested to kind
of see how that tracks. But there's nothing coming after
the Blazers. All these other franchises appear to be set.
So I think Adam Silver here in you know, the
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NBA Finals coming up where he does his court in
his State of the Union address, I think he's gonna
have to say, hey, with the TV deals done, the
Celtics got done. The Blazers are gonna get done. And
you know the question is how soon for expansion with
Vegas and Seattle?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Well, John Gonzano's with us.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
And again you hear the name Jody Allen, you hear
the name Blazers, you hear the word sale. You think, okay,
what's going on with the Seahawks now? So they've said
that the Seahawks are not for sale. I think you
reported a couple of years back or a couple months back,
that there's something in the agreement with the estate that
says eventually the teams do all have to be sold.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Is that accurate? Number one? And if it is accurate,
what's the timeline for that? You think for Jody and
the Seahawks.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
Yeah, they have to be sold. Everything has to be liquidated.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
And you know, some source I was talking with in
Seattle just this week said that, you know, they would
expect that they want just like with the NBA teams. Again,
there's only so many people out there that can go
and buy these billion, multi billion dollar entities. There's somebody
who's gonna want the Seahawks in Is that number eight billion?
Speaker 8 (17:17):
Is it nine billion? We will see.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
There's also some question about Jody, Like, you know, I
know that you know, she probably doesn't have the funds
to come in as the majority owner. But does she
want to stay involved with the Seahawks? Does she want
a minority stake? There could be something at play there
because she does look much more comfortable we're in the
twelve jersey or raising the flag or being you know,
(17:40):
at the Seattle Seahawks games with her friends and family.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
So you know, I think she's gonna have a little
harder time letting go of that.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
And there was a timeline that the Seahawks couldn't be
sold before a particular timeline because of a payment.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (17:53):
But we're past that, Is that right, John?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:54):
And I had somebody tell me that this may really
does put it in the book. So it's you know,
we're right in that wheelhouse where it was ten percent.
They had to give ten percent of the sale back
to the city if it's sold in that time period.
So they're going to get outside of that window. And
you know, I don't think it's going to be a
long time before you hear about, you know, the Seahawks
coming down the pipeline. But they may wait, especially because
(18:17):
if there's an expansion basketball team coming into Seattle. Do
you want to cannibalize a potential investment group or investors
when you know you're going to put the NFL team
up for bid as well?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
So what's your gut diet? I want to pin you down,
John John Gonzana with us. I mean, you mentioned it.
You know Paul Allen passed away? What seven years ago?
Correct in twenty eighteen. Well, it's amazing, it's been seven years.
So what is your gut next summer? Two summers from
now twenty twenty eight, give us a prediction on when
you think we're going to have a new owner for
(18:49):
the Seahawks.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
I went to twenty twenty eight in my mind because
you know, I have not seen the estate documents, but
there's something in the language I am told that says
the teams have to be so. And I kind of
wonder if that deadline, because they originally put out ten
to twenty years to settle the estate. I wondered if
it was a ten year thing from his death in
October of twenty eighteen. So I'm looking at and it
(19:12):
does give you some space. It gives you enough time
if you are Jody and Bert to sell the Blazers
and then pivot into Okay, how did that go?
Speaker 8 (19:20):
What did we learn from it?
Speaker 6 (19:21):
How do we approach the Seahawks as a potential sale
and get this. I'm also told that there's a little
bit of a potential commission in the Blazers sale for
one Burt Cold.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
So again we'll come back to like, do you take
a holistic approach?
Speaker 6 (19:36):
If your Jody Allen, do you want to sell it
to somebody who's got ties to Portland like Phil Knight?
Speaker 8 (19:41):
Or do you just want the maximum bid? You know,
I don't give a rip.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
I just want to get the most money I can
possibly get, and I think I know where Bert's heart
would be.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Well on to your point of the massive whales in
the Pacific Northwest. Are we just putting a list of
names of everybody worth over fifty billion dollars into a
hat and just pulling it out, or do you actually
have one or two names that you think are viable candidates.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
For that for that sale?
Speaker 6 (20:08):
It's the usual billionaires, right, But I don't think it
necessarily has to go back to somebody in the Pacific Northwest,
And people in Portland are kind of freaking out. They're going,
we want local ownership, and I'm like, you've never had
local ownership. Larry Weinberg lived in la He owned the
Blazers first of all. Then Paul was a Seattle guy.
He owned the Blazers. I mean, there are just very
few people within your zip code who are gonna be
(20:28):
able to say, I'm gonna come in. I've got a
couple of billion, three billion, four billion, I'll be the
majority owner, and I want this thing, you know.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
In the Blazers.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
The Blazers sale is potentially an interesting one because it's
not just the building and it's not just the franchise.
There's also some surrounding development opportunity. Anybody's ever been to
Moda Center to see a Blazer game know that that
you don't have like an entertainment district around it. And
Paul's estate at one point held a lot of real
estate surrounding the arena.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
I don't know if it's been liquidate it. I don't
know if it.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Could be part of this sale, but I think there's
a real development opportunity for somebody. You can have an
entertainment district. People in Portland obviously afraid somebody's gonna buy
the team and move it to Seattle, or buy and
move it to Vegas.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
I don't see that happening.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
I don't think the league's owners are gonna want to
cannibalize a six billion dollar expansion fee in Seattle or Vegas.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
They're gonna want those to be expansion teams.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
And if you're bringing a team back to Seattle, the
biggest sin of David Stearn's tenure getting letting that team leave.
If you're gonna bring a team back to Seattle, you
need Portland. I just think it's a natural rivalry.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
No, totally.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Well, John Canzona with us Shawn Gonzano dot com on
Twitter at John Cainzano BFT.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I know you're gonna run in a second.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
By the way, you get the John's account, you can
read an article about it's Italian grandmother and her famous
meat sauce, which I hope somebody passed that down to you,
By the way, because that sounds I got it.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I got it. But before you go, give us.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Just kind of an update on what's important right now
for Collwege football fans, not just locally in the Northwest,
but nationally. In your opinion to keep an eye on
what's what's the top of mind for you. With college
football and even college basketball, I get.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
So bored talking about like the house settlement and all
this other stuff and NIL and everybody complaining and whining
about the portal. But the biggest thing that I think
is top of mind for me is the enforcement of
whatever system they're gonna put in place. It cannot be
this weak, toothless NCAA like enforcement. It's gotta have real teeth.
(22:27):
If it doesn't have teeth, you will not be able
to compete. And I look at schools like Washington I
look at schools like Washington State, Oregon State, you know,
everybody but Oregon, and I go, hey, if there's not enforcement,
they're just the ducks are just gonna run away with it.
But if there is real enforcement, and you've got a
real cap and you're gonna have legitimate nil deals, and
(22:48):
they're gonna sit come in and go Nope, that's not
a real deal. You can't just pay a kid to
turn on the automatic sprinklers like the old days. If
they're gonna do that, then then schools have a chance,
and maybe it has a chance to feel like a
little bit more like the NFL, where you know, some
teams in some outlying places that aren't the usual powers
that they have a chance to win.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Big John, you're the man. I know you gotta run.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Great stuff. Enjoy the weekend, buddy. We'll talk soon, pal.
Thanks by Sean, Thanks Phyllis all right, John Gonzano again,
John Gonzono BFT on Twitter, Johnkinzono dot com. And you
know it's funny, Dick what he just said there about
you can't just pay a kid to turn their sprinklers
on anymore or watch paint dry.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I guess my reaction would be why not?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I mean, why why have we not seen like a
paint company come out with an endorsement and like like
the Maytag repair guy just sat there and did nothing.
This is this kid's job to watch this paint dry
like his daddy and granddaddy did back in the nineteen
fifties and thirties, and just get paid to watch paint dry,
to make sure it's dry.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It's drying property that is Jesus is Jesus.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
How how great would a commercial be of demand?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Williams just staring at a wall, yes and just and
it's like it's valspar paint or whatever. And it's just
like Demannoians for valspar paint. And he's just staring at
the wall watching the paint drives Peo he was.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Thinking about plays in his head at the same time,
or he's watching the sprinklers go off. I mean, come on,
and why not? I mean, Millane, I'll tell you about
the jobs he had back in college. For God's sakes,
all right, let's do this good stuff from John. Interesting
to hear him, he thinks, by twenty twenty eight, so
you know, two and a half years, three years, whatever,
we're going to have a new owner.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
For the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Obviously would be just the fourth maybe the third owner
since the north Stroms, because it was Bearing and then
it was Paul and now whoever the mystery candidate is.
But is it important for the Seahawks to be bought
by somebody who's in the Northwest currently?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I mean, look, if.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Jeff Bezos bought the Seahawks right like it's we all
know he just packed up and moved to Florida, that's
fine by me. As long as it's somebody who's got
a passion for Seattle, had a passion to keep the
Seahawks in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I don't think this is nineteen seventy five or nineteen
eighty anymore. You don't have to have that guy living
in your backyard like you did maybe thirty five or
four forty years ago. But I would like to see
whoever the new owner is going to be have some
kind of connection dick to the area.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
That would be ideal.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
What's more important to me than that is just general
competence and an absolute passion and unfettered drive to win championships. Sure,
of course, because when you look at it, all starts
with ownership. Look at the NFL. Look at the NFL's
worst run teams. They are always the teams that are
(25:28):
picking top five in the draft. Every single year. It's
the same group of teams.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Let's get a break.
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