Softy & Dick 5-17 Hour 2: Best Seattle Position Groups Ever Bracket

In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler, Dick Fain, and Jackson Felts debate their latest Friday Bracket that centers around the best position group in a year in Seattle history featuring entries from the Seahawks, Mariners, Huskies, Sonics, Sounders, and Storm.

Episode Transcript

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All right, we have our Fridaybracket segment here. Yes, and we've
had some controversy about the entries,by the way, but we already addressed
that. I will just say this, I am partaking in this event under
protest. I do not believe thatthe twenty twenty four Mariner Rotation, as
good as I think they will be, as good as we all think they're
gonna be this year. I donot believe the twenty twenty four Mariner Rotation

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has done enough to be invited tothis contest yet. But as Jackson felt
so eloquently pointed out about a halfan hour ago, they were the inspiration
for this topic. We've done bracketsbefore, and Jackson says the twenty twenty
four Mariner Rotation inspired him to finda way to crown the greatest Seattle sports

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position group of all time. Sobecause they provided the inspiration for Jackson's brain,
they get the invite, they getthe exception. He did enough to
convince me that they belonged in Butwhen we were first brainstorming this, the
fact that one of the first twoor three groups that my brain went to
isn't even in the competition. I'mI'm kind of under protest. Which one

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was that? By the way,that would be Jay bunder Ken, Griffy
J. And what corpse you wantto throw out? And left? Right?
Fine? How about just the deadguy? Geez? How about nobody?
I gave you the numbers? Whatwas it? Ninety three home runs
and two hundred and seventy five RBIsbetween the two of them in one season.
Who do you want to kick out? Dick? The pitching staff?

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Well, the pitching staff is theinspiration for the topic, so it's going
to the pitching staff got the specialexception, right, I would kick out
I would get this tournament. I'dkick out the Sounders forward. That's a
ridiculous thought. I kick out thestorm Guards. That's who I'd kick Who
was the other who was the forwardbesides Cliff Dempsey Martins, the two of

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them, which was the best duoin MLS history to that point. What
are you looking to be for?That's a ridiculous take. Just just stopping
one one right, that's a ridiculousturg Is. I'm asking a serious question.
Clint Dempsey household name, get itis Obammy Martin's a household name in

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Seattle to soccer fans, yes,yes to sports fans. Probably not Jewels
is okay, great, great topicfor textimonials. Who is a bigger name
amongst average sports for act or Jewel? Because and Sue Bird. They can't

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sell each other out there, bothof you. This is the stupid ass
crap that we talk about on thisradio show on Fridays at four o'clock.
Who would have thought when you wokeup this morning if I would have told
you that Scottie Scheffler is gonna getarrested at Valhalla and we're gonna be debating
who's a bigger name to the averagesports fan? Obah, Femi Martins or

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Jewel Lloyd, you would have wonmillions of dollars. Being again all right,
So here's what we got. Firstup in the best position group in
Seattle sports history brackets the twenty twentyfour Seattle Mariners rotation can the oh my
man, the Loagan Gilbert has beenbetter than Grace Singleton swings right over the

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top of another tremendous slider from LoganGilbert from on the ground right behind second,
more steps on the bag on thefirst base in time for the double
play. A puff of the fishfor Logan Gilbert. He yet again faces
the minimum and has been cruising througheight innings. All right, they will
be matched up in round number oneagainst the juggernaut known as the two thousand

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Seahawks secondary. Can the forty nineErs conquer the best red zone defense in
the league to get to the SuperBowl? Kaepernick takes the shotgun snap.
Kaepernick looking throws one of the nearside for Prampree leaves it's better enough.
An intercepton intercepted in the end zoneby Seattle Richard Sherman denies the forty nine
Ers. That's the biggest play inSeahawk history. By the way, the

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tip. You think the single biggestplay in Seattle Seahawks football history is Richard
Sherman and that tip by knocking,followed closely by the Jermaine curse over or
whatever play you want from that game. Right, all right, So that's
the match up in round one ofone versus eight? How about a four
versus five? We start with thetwenty twenty three Washington Husky wide receivers eighteen

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yard line of Oregon Dogs, downby four. Snap, Pennix to throw,
goes for the end zone off theleft sideline. Who about to zone,
Tuckstown, Washington Goworks stoot up onthe scoreboard, thirty eight to go
and the Huskies take the lead.Roman Juz all right, the big play

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against Oregon in week six, rightthere obviously McMillan, Polk and others.
By the way, they are goingup against number five seed the nineteen seventy
nine Seattle Supersonic back court. Thesecond pick fire poor toot put him free.
Who and the Cooper Donic win theirfirst ever NBA chump. The ball

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tails Pioneer Hotdogger does the Hogger hop, the Donic Auric Beteck b Horn honking
around the comic Northwest. All right, uh, great call by Bob Blackburn.
We miss him every time you hearthat call. But that includes Fred
Brown, that includes Dennis Johnson,that includes a guy named Gus Williams.

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There, okay, that is thenumber four versus number five matchup. Next
up in the greatest position group inSeattle sports history contest the number three seed
the two thousand and one Mariner bullpen. And now Suzaki is set, and
now the right ender is to theflight with the old two to a runs

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NFL Tim Benda, Dad Wilson andthe baseball team in history has ever won
more games at the Seattle Mariners.I forgot, by the way, that
Alex Rodriguez provided that strikeout with theRangers for the one hundred and sixteenth win.
That was kind of poetica. Ihad forgotten that very cool against the
number six seed, an entry thatDick Vane says does not belong in this

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tournament. Away if I had toknock one out, that's what I see.
Twenty fourteen sounder forwards o Befemi Martinsand Clint Dempsey. Is Clint Dempsey.
It's high time goal still going Dempseyfour times three? Now Magic the
Cascadia come, He's coming back toSeattle? Is that Ross Fletcher, by

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the way, was yeah, man, how about that Ross Fletcher making an
appearance back on the radio show.That's three play by play guys Ago.
That's number three versus number six,number two seed. The two thousand and
five Seahawks offensive line Alexander trying toget to the edge. Sean Alexander down

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inside the two one a first quarterhere in Seattle for the Seahawks. The
nfl LS MVP has Seattle knocking onthe door again. All right, we're
talking about two Hall of Famers andWalter Jones, Steve Hutchinson, Tobec Lockley
or Chris Gray going up against Jackson'sfavorite entry twenty eighteen Storm back court of

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Jewel Lloyd and Supern bird Boy offthe delivery from bird Fine Stewart eating rhythm,
You pack to byrd another three SeattleStorm have fire. You're twenty eighteen
w NBA champions. All right,let me ask you a question. Were
you doing the Storm broadcast in twentyeighteen? We couldn't find a Dick Fane

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call from that year? The hellI wanted their chimp. Who's that?
Who's that putt? Who's that smut? That guy sucks man, he's terrible
well off. ESPN pirated the playoffrights from us. I want to get
a couple of Dick Fane highlights.Man. Let's let's let's let's do this
right next time. Okay, we'regonna do Storm stuff. We're doing Dick
Fane calls and Dick Fane calls only. All right, Let's start with the

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number one versus number eight, twentythirteen Seahawks secondary against the twenty twenty four
Mariner rotation. Uh. Just aquick note. The Seahawks secondary that year
led the league in opposing passer ratingsixty three point four. The next best
team in the NFL was at seventyfour point two. That's a ten point
eight point gap between those two teams. That's the same gap as number two

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and number nineteen in the NFL.That's how dominant that secondary was. We're
gonna have some great debates in thisbracket. This isn't one of them.
Move on, Okay, Jackson,Yeah, exactly, this is that'll be
that'll be in close. So allthat conversation about the twenty twenty four Mariner
rotation, they lasted about seven anda half second. They don't even belong

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to the year. The number oneseed will move on, all right.
Number four versus number five. Twentytwenty three Huskies against the nineteen seventy nine
Sonic guards Gus Williams, Fred Brown, Dennis Johnson. You can throw you
Dick Snyder's button there. Who Bythe way, Dick Snyder looked like he
was six years old when he wasplaying basketball back in this in the day
for the Sonics against Jalen McMillan,Roman Donza and jay Lynn Pulk. This

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is extremely tough I am old enoughto remember that seventy eight, seventy nineteen.
We all know that those guys,because not I don't remember, well,
I remember those guys playing a lotlast year, but I remember those
guys playing the guys, so Iknow how. I know how good they
were, but they were not.None of them won all NBA teams,
not first team, not second team. The great thing about the Sonics is

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that they were an extremely well coached, cohesive unit without superstars. And the
Husky receiving Corps has a superstar,right, and that's Roma doone day.
That's why I would lean a littlebit towards the Huskies. However, Sonics
won the championship, Huskies lost inthe championship game. So I mean,
it's it's very very close. I'mlooking at does it matter at all to

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you guys what these guys did ondraft Day? Because I'm looking at Roma
Dunda, who was the ninth pickoverall, Jalen Polk who was a second
round pick, and McMillan, whowas a third round pick. You had
three All three of those wide receiverswere taken in the top ninety five,
all three of them. That's whyI think if you're just comparing our receivers

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with the rest of the receivers incollege football, yes, and then comparing
our guards that year with the restof the guards in the NBA. Right,
our receivers rank higher. I thinkyou're right, and I'm gonna vote
for the Riskies because of that.I think you're right, because I think
in the end, the Sonics werea team that were floundering when Lenny Wilkins
took over in nineteen seventy eight.Obviously, he found a way to get

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the best of that group, wentto the NBA Finals and lost, and
then went to the NBA Finals thatwon the championship the following year. But
I think a lot of people stillbelieve that Lenny Wilkins was a star of
that team as the head coach,because he was the one that got the
whole thing turned around a year anda half earlier. And I don't know.
I mean, look, one groupmay not have won a championship,
but they still, I think,in comparison to their peers, were more

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superior, as you said, thanthe Sonic guards were back in seventy nine.
So I'll take the Huskies. Intwenty twenty three, the Husky wide
Receiver Corps. I think you canargue in a lot of ways, guys,
the twenty twenty three Husky Wide ReceiverCorps was the greatest single Husky football
position group in program history, thosewide receivers. Because if we're doing a

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contest here to look for the bestposition group of all time and the only
Husky representation is those wide receivers,then that would mean that they are the
greatest Husky football position group of alltime ever, and a hundred plush was
a football. I mean, we'retaking the wide receiver. The only other
ones that would put up there isthe Joe Moore to Joe Moore winning offensive

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line and the nineteen ninety one defensiveline. Yeah, or the ninety one
offensive line. But again that's theone group Jackson that made it. Yeah,
you know, I would have voted. I know that I'm gonna lose
here, but I still would havevoted for songs. And you're gonna catch
a theme where it comes down to, you know, hardware for me and
seventy nine has the final Trophy andyes, I know the team you know,
one of won that you know,semi final game to get to the

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Natty. So they do have hardware. But at the end of the day,
I mean, gust Williams had nineteenand a half points per game,
Dennis Johnson, second on the teamwas sixteen points per game, and plus
their fourth leading scorer, So threeof the top four was also Fred Brown.
So that group of three guards,they kind of they were the leaders
of that of that team. Thatagain for me brought home hardware, and

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that means so much in this conversation. No, no, and look I
get it, but again I thinkyou're talking about comparatively speaking to the rest
of college football, Washington had thebest receivers and the best offensive line.
One one more thing that would helpyour argument is that Fred Brown was playing
before the three point line was inevents A great point if that, if

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that three point line was around,who knows, So twenty three Husky wide
receivers move on. Yeah, Ithink so. I mean, if you
if you switch the championships, wewouldn't be having a conversation the Husky If
the Huskies would have beaten Michigan andthe Sonics would have lost to Washington,
this wouldn't even be a competition.Everybody would say that it's the Husky bobs

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and again to kind of you knowbetter Jackson's point here when the moment was
the brightest in the Michigan game.The wide receivers had a real hard time,
but the defense did too. Thedefense gonna stop the run. Who
knows man? All right, Sothe twenty three Husky wide receivers are moving
on two thousand and one marin abullpen against the twenty fourteen Sounder forwards.

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Jackson, We're gonna have to haveyou sell us on the twenty fourteen sounder
forwards against the two thousand and onemarin a bullpen. So really, I'll
try really quick. I'm probably notgoing to, but I'll try. So.
MLS had been around for about thirtyyears at that point, just under
thirty years, and the combination ofthose two together, Oba and Clint was
something that this league really sort ofhad had not seen before. Two guys

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who could essentially do whatever they wantedon the offensive end. When those two
were working together, and they werethe two high forwards in a four to
four to two formation, and thetwo forwards basically just said we're gonna get
the ball and we're gonna do whateverwe want to against your defense. You
can't stop us. Most of theirgoals that each of them had were assisted
by the other person, where thetwo guys had some help in the midfield,

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but they kind of just did itthemselves every time. And then you
add into it depth players who werepretty damn good, you know, at
pieces who were just kind of atthe end of their careers a Chad Barrett,
Kenny Cooper. Overall, that group, not only Oba Clint, that
group was insane and it ultimately ledthem to hardware. They were the best
team all season in Major League Soccer. They brought home the Supporters Shield,

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and those two together were a duothat the league has had. That point
I've never seen before. So whowould you vote for? The Sounders?
Then? As great as that Mayor'sbullpen was that team, that one team
had so many other incredible pieces thatI think that one team would have still
won one hundred plus games without thatbullpen being as good as it was.
So for me, the sound theSounders forwards Glinton Oba made up for I

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think some deficiencies elsewhere on that team. Single response, I think the Sounders
win that Supporter Shield. They're thebest team because of Obing Clinton. I'm
not sure the Mariners A one teamis what they are without there, They're
still what they are without the bullpen. Yeah. Yeah, here's the thing.
That Mariner team won the West byfourteen games that year over the A's.
The A's won one hundred and twogames and finished in second place.

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So I agree with Jackson that theywould not have won one hundred and sixteen
without the bullpen, but they stillwould have won one hundred and three hundred
and four with saby and above averagebullpen, they still would have made a
playoffs that year. Yeah. Theproblem with that bullpen, though, is
that they did exist, and theywere there, and we're just talking about
how those guys performed. You hadtwo All Stars from your bullpen. Kazie

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hero Sasaki was second in baseball withforty five saves behind RIVERA Arthur Rhodes had
a one seven to two e erwith eighty three k's and sixty eight innings
and did not make the All Starteam that year. That's how dominant they
were when they got to the seventhinning, you felt like those games were
over if they had the lead.They were the best bullpen in baseball that
year by far. So I'm gonnago with the one Mariner bullpen versus the

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sounder forward. So Dick will letyou do the deciding vote here. Let's
not forget Shigatoshi Hasegawa. Wasn't hisra like zero at the All Star Break?
I believe it was. I thinkit was zero. Forgot about it
make the All Star Game? Imean and and you're looking at with all
due respect Obafemi and Clint, ifyou added those two goal goals that they

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scored that year seventeen and sixteen,that's thirty three. The leading scorer in
the league that year almost had thirtythree. It was Bradley right Phillips.
So those two barely reached what thenumber one scored in the league was combined.
I'm going with the Mariners, allright, two thousand and one Mariners,
move on over Schigatoga. Excuse methe forward by the way I was

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looking at, he didn't payed tilltwo thousand and two. He was not
on the Mariners in two thousand andone. Oh well, were you thinking
about Sasaki Orsagawa? Thought it wasHasa Galasta. Gawa did not play for
the Mariners until two thousand that I'mstill voting for without Shiggy, I'm still
two thousand and one Mariners. Moveon. They were number one in baseball
and e RA for the sounder forwards. That brings us quickly to our number

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two versus number seven matchup. FiveSeahawks offensive Line twenty eighteen Storm Guards.
Dick fang Well, I mean,I think it's a really good one.
I think it's almost as close asthe Sonics and the the second one we
did the Sonics and the Husky receiversthe Storm Guards. The downside of it

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is that neither one of the Guardswere the best player on the team that
year. So I think that's onething that would take away from the storm
Guards. Brianna Stewart is the bestplayer, was the best player on the
team, but they were clearly thesecond and third best player. And Sue
obviously, I mean she she runsthe show, led the league and assists
that year, and Jewel lud Jeweluydwas just on her way up into acension

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of what she is right now.The five offensive line for the Seahawks had
they not had arguably the best playerat their position at the left tackle position.
Ever, he kind of cancels outSue Bird, So I'm kind of
looking at the rest of them.I'm gonna give the I'm gonna give the
edge to the Seahawks because they hadtwo players out of the five man It's

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tough because Juelloyd's gonna be a Hallof Famer two. I'm having a tough
time here, guys. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna lean Seahawks.
But you have two Hall of famerson the Hawks offensive line, including
arguably the goat in left tackle.You got two on the on the storm
and arguably the goat point guard.All right, but he's leading Hawks.
I'm leading Hawks. Go ahead,Robbie Tobet, Chris Bray Gray, Sean

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Locklear, Seahawks. Yeah done,all right, two thousand and five Seahawks
offensive line. In the interest oftime, we'll say they move on.
So the old one Mari in abullpen against the O five Seahawks offensive line
and the twenty twenty three Husky widereceivers against the two thousand and three Seahawks
secondary a final four. We'll crownedchampion next on ninety three three KJRFM Live
from the R and R Foundation SpecialistsBroadcast Studio. Now back to Safie and

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Dick on your Home for the Huskiesand the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJR FM. All right,boys and girls, back here from Meridian
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JBLM. Couple of awesome, awesomecauses by the way, Softian Dick with
Jackson hanging out until seven o'clock.Humullan joins at five PM. So we
wrap up our bracket segment here lookingfor the greatest single Seattle position group of
all time in Seattle sports history.The final four set the twenty thirteen Seahawks
secondary against the twenty twenty three Huskyfootball wide receivers, the two thousand and

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one Mariner bullpen against the two thousandand five Seahawk offensive line. We start
with the lob against the twenty twentySeahawk wide receivers. As big of a
Husky fan as I am, Ithink we need to recognize that the twenty
thirteen Seahawks secondary can be in theconversation for the greatest secondary of all time
in the history of the National FootballLeague. Now history will say at the

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end how good they are depending onhow many these guys make the Hall of
Fame. Obviously we'll have to letthe writers, I guess, decide on
that. You got potentially a coupleof Hall of famers and Richard Sherman and
Cam Chancellor. I think Sherman willget in. Dick, I think Chancellor
is going to have a shot tomake the Hall of Fame one day.
Earl Thomas, I don't think we'llget make the Hall of Fame. But
that was not just the best secondarythat year. It was potentially the best

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secondary in the history of the NationalFootball League. And they played the number
one offense in the history of theNFL and shut their asses down. That
to me is the difference between themand the twenty twenty three Husky Football wide
receivers. The Husky Football wide receivershad a show against the mighty Michigan Wolverine
defense and could not get it donein that game. The twenty thirteen Seahawks

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secondary, in the biggest game sportshas to offer, played the greatest offense
in the history of the NFL,held them to eight points so that's why
I go with a twenty thirteen LOB. I love my Husky wide receivers,
but I mean, you can't evenmake a slam dunk argument that they're the
best receiving corps this year in collegefootball. There's a lot of Ohio State
fans with this would say, hey, LSU, Yeah, but you can

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absolutely make no argument that they're thebest in the last five years because there
was a receiving core at LSU withJustin Jefferson and Jamar Chase on it at
the same time. So yes,all everything you said is correct about the
elbow LOB. I feel like they'rethe best secondary that God has ever put
on this planet in the NF thebest one I ever saw. Yes,

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right, And you know what,you can't really compare nineteen sixties secondary because
they didn't have to defend the passlike these guys do today. Yeah,
and again, I just think whenyou have a I mean, thank God
that they had the opportunity to playthe greatest offense in the history of the
NFL and to hold them to eightpoints, I think is all you gotta
know about those guys. So JacksonDick and I are taking the LB in

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twenty thirteen. I'll keep it quickbecause I have to run with sweep.
Okay, so they move out ofthe final two thousand and one marin a
bullpen against the two thousand and fiveSeahawk offensive line. This is a good
one here, because the two thousandand five Seahawk offensive line has two Hall
of Famers as of now. Thetwo thousand and one marin a bullpen does
not. But let's face it,making the Hall of Fame as a middle

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reliever is kind of unheard of.This thing goes back to are we talking
about one season of greatness or arewe talking about a long period of time.
And you said that the qualifications thatone season, that one season,
which is why the storm didn't moveon. If we're talking about a long
period of time, the Storm guardswould be a slam dunk moving on to

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the next run, but next round. But we're just talking about one individual
season. And in that individual season, it was the best bullpen in baseball.
They were absolutely dominant, and reallythe right side of the Seahawks offensive
line was good. It was notgreat, It was good, but every

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time you needed to run, youran on the left side of the line.
On third and one. Well,they also have more people. They
got five players versus the three thatwe're talking about. It we could include
other players like Ryan Franklin, whowas a long reliever on that team in
two thousand and one, but thefocus obviously is on Jeff Nelson, Sasaki
and Arthur Road. So you're takingthe Mariners, is that right, Jackson?
Yeah, I'm taking the Hawks owlline. You know I think that.

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Yes, yes, I think theright side of the line was good.
But then you have Robbie Tobek,who I thought was a great center,
and then you have a Hall ofFame left side. So you average
it all out and they're pretty damnamazing. Yes, I understand the Mariner's
bullpen was great. I think forme, it comes back to the main
differential that I'm using in this andthat's hardware. The Mariners twosand and one,
they have a big banner up thereand saying d and sixteen wins and

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nothing else to go along with it. For the Seahawks, we have an
NFC title trophy in that season andoh five. Yes it's not a super
Bowl, but at least it's abig piece of hardware, and it was
our first NFC title overall, Sobased on that, I'm giving the slight
edge here to Seahawks. Right.Well, look, I mean the two
thousand and one Mariner bullpen was phenomenal, but when it mattered the most against

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the Yankees in Game four, witha chance to even things up and go
back home, they blew it,yep, And they gave up the back
to back home runs, and theYankees won that game and they went up
three games to one and the serieswas over. If you want to say
the line wasn't dominant the Super Bowleither, the line, well yeah,
but I'm talking about the Alcs,not the World Series. If you want

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to compare the Alcs to something comparedto the two thousand and five NFC Championship
game, when the Seahawks ran allover Carolina's defense in that game. So
those were the two biggest moments comparativelyspeaking, if we're talking equal footing,
and the Hawks came through. Andlook, Robbie Tobek was a Pro bowler
that year. Hushinson's a Hall ofFamer, Walter Jones is a Hall of

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Famer. I don't think the Seahawksmake the Super Bowl without that offensive line,
yep. I think there's a chance, a really good chance, the
Mariners could have made the playoffs andalso made the Alcs with a above average
bullpen. The bullpen took them toone hundred and sixteen wins and Baseball immortality
along with the Cups. So I'mgonna go with the Seahawks offensive line in
two thousand and five. The hardwareargument is, I think it deserves a

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place. But let's just say,for example, that the Mariners had one
gun Zalez along with Jay Buner andKang Gravy Junior and they never won anything.
Okay, it would be the bestunit along with the Lob of all
time, and they didn't win anything. It's not their fault, it's not
the bullpen's fault. I mean,in that game they scored, they scored
one run on offense in that gamethat we're talking about. So that brings

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us to the final twenty thirteen Seahawkssecondary against the two thousand and five Seahawks
offensive line. Jackson, your firstup, ah, this is really really
tough because I think for me,I look at the five O line and
I look what happens when they werebroken up. When when Hutchinson left,
poison pill and you know, watchinghow Sean Alexander changed, it wasn't like

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he was an old running back andhe was that much worse. He was
still I think, you know,near his prime, but he was just
it was a different running game withoutHutch in there. So that's why I'm
considering very strongly the offensive line.But I at the end of the day,
I have to go back to myhardbor argument. Dick. I know
you say it has a you know, a place, but I think that
place is right here in a debatethat's so close. Same with the previous

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round. At the end of theday, the Seahawks secondary brought home a
Lombardi Trophy and the five offensive linedidn't. So give me the LB.
Why don't we let Dick Fane decidethe winner? Then? Actually, I
guess I'm gonna decide that right now. I'm taking the LB. I just
think again, when you face thebest regular season of defense in the history
of the NFL, SAM nobody scoredmore points than the twenty thirteen Denver Broncos.

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Up until that point. It mayhave been broken since then, I'm
not sure, but up until thenthey were the greatest scoring offense in the
history of the NFL and you heldthem to eight points. If I told
you before the Super Bowl the Seahawkswon that game thirty one to thirty,
he was said, that makes sensethat Broncos offense is really best offense.
And they scored them to eight pointsand halfway through the third they were shutting

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them out. You can argue it'sthe greatest defensive performance in the history of
the NFL, at least the greatestdefensive performance in the history of the Super
Bowl. So that's why it's thetwenty thirteen LA. This would be an
argument for me. Had in thatSuper Bowl against Pittsburgh Sewan Alexander rushed twenty

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two times for one hundred and seventyfive yards and three touchdowns behind that offensive
line, and we won the SuperBowl. But that didn't happen. Sean
Alexander had a He had a decentday, but it was for him it
was a C plus B minus God. You just you know what if they
didn't get that holding Colin Locklear andStevens catches that ball at the one yard
line, they go on to winthe game. How much different is this
conversation? Very different because then they'replaying from the lead and they're running behind

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that one. Wait, but weare just just this is how these things
are decided, right in these littlemoments that can balance history because we're talking
about ten minutes of football and oneplay of football that literally dictates this conversation.
It's amazing. So congratulations, nosurprise, twenty thirteen Seahawks Secondary.

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The lob is the greatest single positiongroup all the time in the history of
Seattle sports. We got one thatpeople won't complain about. And I will
say four nine five one are ispissed off about this? This year worth
the Oregon thing. Next on ninetythree to three KJRFM, the shotgun snap.
He moves up and throws a wapplypassed down the middle. It was
intercepted. Hits picked off by CamChanceling. He got the ball on the

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numbers and he's did a thirty sixyard line. Manning has just been intercepted
by Seattle and defensive back Cam Chancellor.