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May 19, 2025 36 mins
In the first hour, Gregg Bell and Jackson Felts react to the Mariners sweeping the San Diego Padres and state of the offense right now, then chat with Grant Cohn about the 49ers handing out two new massive contracts before listening to Fun with Audio clips.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, I'll be waiting three to seven. The lots to
talk about today. Three thirty Grant Cone, he's a forty
nine ers writer for forty nine ers on Sports, illustrated
about not just the Brock party dealer we talked about,
or we learned about over the weekend one hundred and
eighty one million guarantees. So they're all in on him.
But now Fred Warner getting at age twenty nine, a
three year, sixty three million dollars deal that just went

(00:21):
down in the last hour. We'll talk to Grant Cone
at three thirty one. Talked to Hugh Mellon. We'll have
fun with audio at three forty five. They can off
you always do.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Have you ever been part of Pune with Audio? Now
this isn't first, this is my first time in this chair.
From three to seven. Wow, here we go. This is
fun his full with audio. Just all we do is
just play ridiculous clips. And I'm eager to hear your
two sons on the stupidity that we have At three
forty five. There is some stupidity in Full with Audio today.
I'll tell you that. Four o'clock we talk to Hugh Mellon.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
He went off on the NBA draft lottery, and I
guess I'm going to rekindle that. I don't know if
I should, but will Le'm gonna ask you if he
thinks the NFL should have a draft lottery. And when
I was asking him about the brock pretty deal and
Fred wonder for that matter, with the forty nine ers,
how far he thinks the forty nine Ers may still
be ahead of the Seahawks even though they're coming off
a six win season. We'll talk to them about maybe
Jalen Milroe, I've talked with you about a couple of

(01:12):
times at the Seahawks draft pick from Alabama. We'll talk
to him at four o'clock. At four thirty. Luke Arkins
Marinon's Consickly Our newsletter. When I had a show here
on KJR, I had him on all the time. Well,
now he's a big star of all kinds of media
around Seattle. Luke arkins, because he's got a first place team.
He writes a newsletter about he's going to join us
at four thirty. It's about the time that's the Mariners
will begin their series in Chicago. So we'll talk to

(01:32):
him at four thirty. Four forty five textimonials. You do
text it a little differently than we all just do. Yeah,
we just play.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
We put it in this little machine, and this little
machine it's not AI or anything, but it pops out
what the listeners are saying and we hear. You know,
how it compares to follow the fall with audio is
you know, it's it's crazy things that other people have
said in the broadcast world. Texts are where the crazy
things that our texters have said to us today, like
like you know, hopefully not your show stinks.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
So at five o'clock, jackcdent, we're going to do We're
gonna a little open mike. First of five o'clock, we're
gonna play some audio of the Rich Eisen Show at
Seahawks gentlemen to John Schneider talking about DK Metcalf, and
we're gonna parse some words about what the GM said,
because it's not always what he says it's true. And
then we're gonna open up in your question four and
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(02:19):
to the red microphone button at the bottom right, and
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or dare I say, should we open the phone lines
live at five o'clock? I didn't even hit you with that.
Out of nowhere. We can open the phone lines.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
People's past the jamp here as we were kind of
texting this morning, Greg, like, we have your Seahawks expertise
on three to seven today, let's use it.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
So let's open the phone lines at two o six
like that. Ninety five ninety five, two o six two
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your chance to live on the air to talk about
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from five until five twenty five point thirty. Great friend
of mine, far on Ology, had dinner. My wife and
I had dinner with him at the Westy and Roosevelt
on Friday night on his way to Dallas for Saturday.
When the Winnipeg Jets lost in Game six and overtime,

(02:59):
a really poignant game. That was Mark Shifley and his
father dying earlier in the day, Adam Lowry, the captain,
going into the penalty box to console him when the
game winning goal giving up. When Scheiffley was still in
the box, Varron was there he broke it all down
for TSN Vancouver and TSN National. He's going to be
on the air talking about that in the Stanley Cup
playoffs at five thirt you mean we ask him a

(03:20):
couple of Seahawks NFL questions as well, And at six
o'clock we'll talk about the Sounders coming off there Derby
down in Portland. How'd you feel one solid enough?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
I mean, you know, I thought, I think we're coming
away for a Sounder fans saying we should have won
that game. But at the end of the day, it's
it's it's a tie on the road, and I'll always
take a tie on the road.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Exactly. I saw the standings. There are twenty points. There
are only eight game, eight points out of first, and it's.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Been road road, road, road road for the last few months.
So finally we get a home stretch.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
All right, we'll talk Sounders at six. Your text four
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so Jackson I come filling in Labor Day weekend. It
feels like last year. The Mariners are in first place.
I mean, what is it, three games, three and a half,

(05:08):
I can't remember what it is now a.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Game, yeah, I think so, because there's the Houston's I
think two and a half. Houston's still on our tail.
But yeah, Trash Cansas.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
The Mariners go down to the trash Cans this weekend
after they play. That was a great look, that's great.
Let's go for an aside. But I wasn't gonna bring
this up, but you did you see the schedule release
for the I think it was the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Was that the Was that the Minecraft one? Or was
the Indianapolis Colts the Minecraft one?

Speaker 1 (05:33):
No, they both were. The Colts canceled one was Minecraft.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
That's right, and that's right. And the Chargers also did
a Minecraft one. Yeah, the Chargers did a Minecraft one
with c J. Stroud when they it was time to
introduce Houston as an opponent.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
C J.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Stroud is in the character and he's in an old
western saloon, a Texas type old Western thing, and they
first have a wanted poster of C. J. Stroud and
my son. My son had to explain all of this
to me, and my son said, well, that was because C. J.
Stroud apparently had imposter down there and somebody was dressing
up and trying to class himself off as him. I
didn't know that. But then also on this list of

(06:06):
wanted posters in this saloon on the charges video release
was you had to I had to stop framing and
read it and blow it up to read it. But
it said for sale slightly used trash cans. Oh well done.
I found that was and awesome. Houston for sale slightly
used trash cans. Good job. Anything that references flight them

(06:29):
until the end of time exactly. They got off scott free,
so they should be ridiculed to the end of time.
Those twenty seventeen probably who knows how many championships they
won by banging on trash cans. Anyway, the Mariners are
in Chicago three games starting today tonight, and then three
four games four games with the trash Cans in Houston.
If I'm not mistaken. Thursday through Sunday Jackson are first

(06:50):
place in an absolutely backwards kind of way, right their
top ten. I was looking up today to pray for
the show. There are top ten in all kinds of
categories in the Major League in offense, stolen bases, are
you kidding me? Yeah, home runs, r ABI, sucking percentage,
walks top in some cases top six in the major leagues.

(07:12):
You know, there's second in home runs in the American
League to only the Yankees who play in that band box,
I mean, tiny parking the Bronx, And that's it. Nobody's
talking about Marine Layer anymore because Jerry to Poto came
on and had that great line of we have a
great offense and you know, and sort of it's it's
there's there, there's the you know, reality of our offense,
and then there's a perception of our offense and sort

(07:33):
of like the perception from there. There's a portion of
people with whose perception I think greg is still that
you know, this offense is still they're not you know,
they're not great. But like, legitimately, I am so sorry,
Jerry to Poto, I'm so sorry for slighting you so
many times, and you're fifty four percent crap, because man,
you've got a great offense right now, it's only mid May.

(08:00):
I said in this year. Last year, all the way
into June and they had a ten game lead. I
hate to be the rain guy, but what makes you
think it's more sustainable, Jackson, is what you're talking about
the offense. Last year it was smoking mirrors to get
two runs exactly, and they had a ten game lead
because their pitching staff was literally lights out. This year,
they're in first place with three of their five starting

(08:22):
pitchers art, so one of whom hasn't even started a
game yet another has barely started at all. I mean,
what we all said was, oh, what's gonna happen if
this pitching staff gets hurt. Well now they have, and
what's gonna happen is they're in first place because of
their offense. After their pitching staff gets hurt.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Well, not only that, but it's then other pitchers stepping
up like Evans Logan he come from. I don't think
that there was any one of us here around the Bill.
Maybe Chuck Pitch, Chuck Powell and Bucky Jackson probably knew
the name, and Andrews probably knew the name Logan Evans
but like, I don't think any of us, of us
Softy Dick and myself knew the name Logan Evans before

(08:59):
he came onto the scene. And I mean he is
just killing it right now with that outing he had
on Friday. I mean, they gave up one run in
each of the games this weekend. The bullpen's been outstanding.
So you're getting it from both ends right now. And
to your point about sustainability, I mean, at some point
I said this a month ago, and I guess I'll
say it again and look like an idiot in another month.

(09:21):
At some point, this offense is going to fall off.
At some point, this offense isn't going to look great.
But right now, Greg, I don't know, man, Like I'm
just holding up the flag and saying I am a
big idiot, because boy, Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollander, y'all
built this team, and you built the depth on this
team to be able to bring Logan Evans and Hancock up.

(09:42):
And it's winning against teams with the Pod Rays, a
great baseball team just swept them in their house.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
They've got Ben Williamson, who had Ben Williamson being a
factor not on my Bengal card Master Bony and Williamson
as your platoon at third bait that was supposed to
be Horry Polanka, right, Yeah, and now Planka's eating the
Western world and slugging and doing everything he was supposed
to do last year when he came from the Minnesota Twins.
But yeah, that's to me. What makes this better, Dare

(10:10):
I say better than a ten game lead last year
in June? Is this two and a half game lead
in May because of how they got there, and they're
gonna get back to health and pitching staff. They're gonna
have Kirby back and no pitching for the only time
he hasn't pitched at all. They're gonna be better pitching
than they are now and they're still in first place,
and that to me makes this more sustainable than last year.

(10:31):
As much as we all are like, wait a minute,
ten games up, they're gonna make the playoffs, but we
all knew that wasn't sustainable, that the level of pitching
they had and how they were hitting. It was just
we all thought, well, they got a ten game lead,
that's enough. They've got a cushion that'll be okay to
get through. And then once they get in the playoffs,
they'll have a pitching staff to get through series and
be fine. But I would argue that the sustainability of

(10:53):
this team is better than the last couple of years
because of how they're hitting so far. Exactly. I chuckled
because I've been in Seattle for more than a day
and I've been there since the nineties, So yeah, I
can chuckle a little bit about, Well, we'll see so far.
But when you look at the rest of the division,
I mean, you know, the trash cands will come back

(11:15):
because they always do. But they don't have what they
used to have on offense. Al two, they must be
what a thirty five to forty year old player, it
seems at times he's playing in left field. Now, yeah,
he's in the left field exactly so, and they are complete.
Alex Brigman's no longer there. He's in Fenway Park. So
they are a different team as a different threat. Of course,
they sort of bil ros and they still have They

(11:35):
will be there because they always are. The Rangers. Man,
they spend a lot of money on a pitching staff
that does not perform. So does that mean they'll finally
get it together or are they just going to stay
the Rangers and pitching if you've been for decades.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well, it's funny because Brett Boone was on our show
until he decided to quit our show and go become
the Rangers hitting coach, So naturally you're going to get
kind of a new coach bump from front. You're seeing
that a little bit. But like, I don't know that
the Rangers are a little bit more like us last
year in the smoke and mirrors department, you know. So
I at the end of the day, they'll I think
they'll be around the talks come September. But I'm with you.

(12:12):
I think it's the Astros and it's just a question
of do what moves I think they make in July.
Do they make a big move that pushes them over
the top compared to what we may be able to
do with our financial situation.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
And they always do right, The trash Cans always make
a move, whether it's Verlander or a bat or they
always in the middle of even when they're in first place.
And yes, they are absolutely an upgrade because they always do.
And free agents have a track record of hitting in
that park, so that's an attractive place when you start
looking if you're a free agent about where you'd want
to sign if you get traded, and maybe stay Houston

(12:47):
over Seattle as a hitter, right, I mean that's just facts. Yeah,
maybe if you talk about park and statistics and everything else,
it's a more attractive place for a hitter to go. Now,
of course, in trades, it doesn't always have guys vested
enough to have a no trade cause. And the side
where it gets traded. To the point is the Houston
always does it. And so as long as they are

(13:08):
within two and a half games as they are right now,
you have to expect the trash Cans to get better
than they are now. It's a trade trading deadline exactly.
And the question is how do we match them if
we match them at all? And you know, I would
love to change this narrative. Maybe it's maybe it's too
late to change, but.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
The fact that the Mariners right now have a great
I think I think the word has deserved great offense
right now based on all the steps that we're seeing.
I mean, I'm just going off with the word that
the Poto said, and the fact that the fact that
he said it, and the fact that we were wrong
thinking he was wrong, saying I'm.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Not ready to say we were wrong, but okay.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
It's clearly I mean what we heard in great and
we're just like this is this is no, it's nowhere
near great. It's maybe not at the level realistically of great,
but it sure is far far away from where we
thought this offense would be. But again to the point
of like, if we can change the narrative of boy
you can't hit it, Timo will park boy the Mariners

(14:00):
have a bad offense, which has been the narrative for
a while. If you can change that narrative and get
not only this season, but then going forward, get players
to say, yeah, wait, Mayor I almost talk about a
Mariner's bad offense. I don't want to go to a
place where I can't hit, and I don't want to
go to a place as a bad offense. If you
change that narrative, this is the year. You can start
doing that.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Four nine, four to five one and tell him a
new text ligne. I almost said to him. I did say,
tell them it's the unsponsored tex I can't believe it's
up forbidding. On the up forbiddings text line, tell us,
what do you Are you agreeing with me that this
is actually a more sustainable Mariners team, albeit with a
smaller lead at two and a half games right now
than at ten games last year in June, I say yes,

(14:43):
because of the offense. Is the offense sustainable? To you?
Are you once bitten three times shy because you've lived
here in Seattle more than three days? Four? We will
read back your text, and there's already some good ones
coming in. Yes, making fun of me. So that's it.
We'll read back your text. We we shift gears. Next,
it's Grant Cone. He's a beat writer for the forty
nine ers. Forty nine ers on SI. Yeah. The Seahawks

(15:05):
rivals in the NFC West have been up to some
stuff since Friday. They resigned their quarterback to one hundred
and eighty one million guarantee for brock Perty at the
end of his rookie deal to be their quarterback for
the future and beyond five plus years perhaps, and then
today Fred Warner is now the highest paid by average
annual value linebacker in the NFL, with a twenty one
million dollar a year deal for three years. Grant Cone

(15:26):
is next. Humelon talks to us at four o'clock about Seahawks,
about what he feels about the forty nine ers and
what kind of threat they are. Oh, by the way,
the Rams, but they might go somewhere this year too.
We'll talk to Hugh at four o'clock. Four point thirty
Luke Arkans about these first place Mariners. Five point thirty,
We're going to talk to my buddy farn Walgi about
pucks about the Stanley Cup playoffs. Five o'clock is open

(15:48):
mic for the Seahawks, your chance to weigh in. We
might open the phone lines and meantime text line four nine,
four or five one. All that and tons more sounders
at six o'clock Coming up on ninety three point three KJRFM.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
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Speaker 1 (16:19):
Welcome back. No, this is not Dave, Softy Maller or
Dick Fains Creig Bell who's being filming in for them.
Dick is doing storm game down in Dallas tonight on
television in the CW. It starts at five o'clock, and
I don't know where Dave Softie Maller might be.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
He's actually in Greece. Really yeah, he's traveling this for
like two weeks. I think he can grease O. Good
for him. That's a darn good excuse now not to
be here, right. So I am here. Jackson Feltz is here.
We're here till seven o'clock with you right now to
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Speaker 1 (16:48):
Grant Cone, it's forty nine ers on Sports Illustrated. Joins
us from the Bay Area. Lots to talk about with
the forty nine ers. Grant, we passed on beats. I
know almost everybody on the forty nine ers beat or personally,
having been on the NFC West be for so long.
But I actually worked with your dad more than I
had to you. I had left up to Seattle by
the time you had got on the beat. Low Clone

(17:10):
of course at Santa rosa Press Democrat for so many,
so many decades. Now we're joined by his son, Grant Cone.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Hello, sir, I've heard so much about you since I
was like in middle school, so it's nice to actually
talk to you.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Well, thank you, sir. I think that is a couple
of my ho is all good, thank you so to
me from a distance, Grant, it looks like this is
the opposite of the forty nine ers last season. Last year,
offseason and into the season with Deebo Samuel and all
the contract negotiations and impasses in drama. Now they Brock
Purty done mid mid May on hundred and eighty one million,

(17:45):
Fred Warner done. I has paid linebacker in the NFL
as of an hour ago? Am I right in saying
this is a different tact for the regime down to
San Francisco.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Yeah, it's a complete one eighty because ever since they've
had Paragh Maraz was like twenty five years, he's been
the tough negotiator who likes to play a game of
chicken with the player until you know August September. That's
the way it's gone the last three four years, right,
And I guess they in retrospect they used that as
a bit of an excuse for their six and eleven season, like, well,
we had so much drama and distractions and football was secondary,

(18:18):
how could you expect us to have a good year?
So you could look at it as this is the
ownership's way of holding Kyle accountable, like, all right, no drama,
you got all the players you want, you got your quarterback,
win more than six games, please make the playoffs, because
another coach might have been fired after going six and
eleven was such a good team. But Kyle's going in

(18:38):
the year nine and he's got another chance, and it
seems like he's got no excuses this time.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
They made their decision a long time ago. Grant Cones
Sports illustrated forty nine ers on SI joining us on
the bec Come Plumbing highline. The forty nine ers cast
there a lot with brock Purty a while ago. Once
he got them as far as he did in Super
Bowl contentions and Super Bowls and NFC title games. And this,
to me is just the cost of doing business, right.
If you're going to reaup your quarterback beyond his rookie deal,
you're going to pay one hundred and eighty one million guaranteed.

(19:04):
But you, and I think you and many others have
noted the front loaded nature of this deal for brock Purty,
and the fact that most of this money is in
the first three or four years is somewhat unusual, where
most teams, like the Balloon and at the end and
make a choice before the final year, talk about how
different maybe the structure of this deal is than someone
around the league might thought.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Yeah, like with Jordan Love, he has a big cap
hit right at the end in a year that's not guaranteed,
and he's probably not going to get that money. It'll
be renegotiated by then, So it's kind of like a
way to inflate it, to pump up the agent's ego
and the player's ego, and Party didn't want that. He
wants to be legitimately valued as a franchise quarterback. So
I think the compromise was, we'll pay you fifty five

(19:46):
million dollars a year for three years, not for five years.
Then the final two years will be more team friendly.
And I think that appealed to Brock Party and his
agent because now they can say, at least for three
years there as highly paid as tre Lowarns.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
And do you think he's worth it? Do you think
he's given them the productor no? I don't.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
I mean he's a good player, but I think it's
an easy way to judge it.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Today.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Are Seahawks fans happy or sad that Brock Perty got
this extension.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Well, a lot of people think they're I think they're happy.
I'm happy, but I don't know that they should be.
I grant that he's five in one. He's five and
one against the fo He's five and one against the Seahawks.
With twelve hundred passing year, he's thrown more yards against
the Sauks than anybody. His passer ratings one hundred and
twelve or something. He butchered him in the playoff game,

(20:36):
three hundred plus yards and three touchdowns. He's twelve touchdowns
against three interceptions against the Seahawks. If I'm a Seahawks fan,
I go, this isn't a great deal. I want him out.
But I'm sorry interrupt, but he's he's pretty much dominated
the Seahawks. That he's not the only reason why, though, Well,
they did a good.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Job against him the last time they faced him, held
them the seventeen points McCaffrey played in that game. That
he did get hurt in that game. But the thing
with perty like he was so great in twenty twenty
three on a team that they'll never replicate last year.
Six wins, twenty touchdown passes, pretty ordinary year, and it's
kind of unprecedented to get that kind of an extension
off of that kind of a down year where he

(21:15):
really shrank under the pressure. So maybe it'll work out.
But I just don't think like the Rams are upset
about this. I bet you the Rams are thinking, oh,
we don't really have to worry about the Niners very
much again in the future. Their Super Bowl window just ended.
I mean, puk Nakua said it on the record.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Well, let me ask you this, then, what was their alternative?
I mean, this is the cost of doing business for
your franchise quarterback.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Well, what's interesting is with Kyle, he's been one of
the few coaches in the NFL who's been able to
get high level quarterback production out of nobody. I mean,
he couldn't do with Trey Lance. No one's been able
to do with Trey Lance. He did with Jimmy, who's
a backup. I mean, you think he could probably do
it with Mac Jones, who's a backup. But I kind
of get the feeling that the owners don't want that
setup anymore. They want a franchise quarterback, and they want

(21:59):
Kyle to be the one who takes the blame if
something goes wrong, because for eight years. He's always been
able to say, well, this isn't really the quarterback I want.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
It's not my fault.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Let's start over.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
I think those days are over.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
He's approaching his tenth year on the job, Hills years. Yeah,
you know what I mean, he has to produce.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
That's crazy say it like that.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
It seems like a young Kade exactly because it's been
so long since he took over out of nowhere. I mean, Grant,
the reason why I'm happy is because you just look
at the guaranteed money, and you look at the large
cap numbers and also don't mean to Warner today, which
is a whole other topic, and you just start to
wonder how much money are they going to be able
to have the Niners to go out and get those

(22:38):
key pieces that accent those players, don't get the weapons
that party needs to keep you know, a good running
back in place, to keep a good offensive line in place,
all these different things. Regardless of the money being structured
up front. I worry about the Niners' ability to accent
those pieces.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah, I mean, they have eight very highly paid players
and answer the question marks after that, they're gonna need
to be a great drafting team, and this is the
team that drafted Trey Lance and Javon Kinlong Like, they're
not bad at drafting, but they're not necessarily better than
any other team. And I feel like good teams hit
about fifty percent of the time at best. So they
have a lot of pressure on them because right now

(23:16):
they're a very top heavy team on offense, they're old
on defense. They might start five rookies, so they have
a favorable schedule. They're expected to they're favored in fifteen
to seventeen of their games. But still, it's gonna be
interesting to see if they can get this team to
come together at the same time offense and defense.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Grand come with us on the Beacon Plumbing Hothine. He's
forty nine ers on SI on ninety three point three
kJ RFM, frequent list, frequent contributor to the Dave Softymore
and Dick Fein Show. About Fred Warner, I'll ask you
the same question, is he worth it? He's gonna be
twenty nine in November. Although he is prem there's no
parallel to him as an inside lineberger. You think for
sixty three million twenty one million a year is worth

(23:55):
it for him? I do.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
I think it's almost a bargain. I mean, to me,
he's the best player, not only on the defense, but
on the team. He's the leader of the team. I mean,
as great as the Niners offense is, I think it's
a defense driven team. The Niners offense is a little
bit more complimentary. They don't really have a great offensive line.
They're a play action team, but that defense can be dominant.
And when it is, he's the leader of it. He's
the voice of it, he's the quarterback of it. He's

(24:18):
in his prime. I think he's the best coverage linebacker
I've ever seen, Like sideline, the sideline, he's not Patrick
Willis or Navarro Bowman, but moving backward, he just shuts
down the middle of the field, and that's where every
team wants to throw. He's incredibly, incredibly valuable, and he's
missed one game in his entire career.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Who does that? Right now? They changed in the secondary?
Ward is not there? You mentioned the youth and the
defense with five potential five rookie starters, Where do you
think they are they transitioning someone on defense? Bosa's still there,
Warners now still there. But where are they defensively, how
much ground do they have to catch up to where
they want to be there.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Well, they got Robert solid back, and that gives them
confidence that they can build a young defense and at
least get it to a good level by the end
of the season. I think it's fair to wonder what
that defense is going to look like Week one in Seattle,
new coordinator, five new starter, I mean at least five
new starters. They could get blown out in that game.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
I mean, always a tough place to play. I'm just
saying because it's the forty, don't.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Lit them up last year with you and that was
that was with a much more veteran defense. So I
think by the end of the season the defense should
be great. But we'll see about early.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Grand Cone, I know you're busy man, especially today, especially
since Friday. Thanks for joining us on the Brock Party
and Fred Warner new deals. Appreciate it. Thank you my pleasure.
Thanks for having me Grant Cone, forty nine ers on
SI joining us about the Brock Party deal done Friday
by the forty nine ers. We knew it was coming,
we weren't sure its gonna be one hundred eighty one
million dollars guaranteed, but again that's the price of doing business.
And then the Fred Warner deal three years, sixty one

(25:46):
three million dollars for the new linebacker to stay. That's
twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Now, yeah, great, really quick before we take a break,
because it's interesting when we think about and then one
off season, a quarterback and a middle linebacker both all
of one deal going into a next deal. Are the
forty nine ers right now where the Seahawks were in
twenty fifteen because Seahawks gave Bobby Wagner that you know,
post rookie deal and it was four years, forty three million,

(26:12):
which at the time was pretty big for a linebacker.
Russell Wilson in twenty fifteen also gets four years eighty
seven million. So the way I kind of see the
Niners right now is they just signed big pieces that
when he mentioned we have eight big pieces signed, I
mean that was that was the Seahawks at that point.
It almost feels like they're right where we were ten
years ago.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, it was the big difference being Jackson that the
Seahawks big money and best players were in the secondary. Yeah,
and the legion of boom that in the NFL. If
you got top players in your secondary at multiple positions,
you are way ahead of everybody else. And the forty
nine ers are redoing their defensive secondary. To me, that's
the biggest difference. And when I said about Trhevius Ward,
I thought he was one of their better players the

(26:51):
last few years. He sure shut down everybody the Seahawks had,
including DK Metcalf on the outside when he wasn't available
because of his family issues with his daughter last season.
They were completely different on defense. Ward's a big deal.
But yeah, to your point, I think the Seahawks of
ten years ago are ahead of where the forty nine
ers are not because of that legion to boom secondary
interesting being where a lot of their money was.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Well, I like that the Seahawks didn't you know, obviously
we didn't win anything.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
No, that's true. I like that. I think a healthy
forty nine er team is still superior to the Seahawks
on the line of scrimmage, and that's where you win
the division and period into story. It's why the Rams
have beating up on the Seahawks over years over years.
Right offensive defensive lines. I know Trent Williams can't play forever.
But hey, the forty nine Ers and per till proven
otherwise are better than the Seahawks. We'll see how much

(27:37):
better the Seahawks offensive line is this year. But yeah,
that line of scrimmage to me is still the number
one detriment to why the Seahawks are number three behind
the Rams and forty nine Ers. At least. Right now,
we'll see the Seahawks are not done. They're going to
go out and get some more defensive tackles they always do,
and we'll see how this new offensive line works. Four nine,
four to five one and tell them we're new text line.
Are you happy as a Seahawks fan with the Seahawks
given one hundred and eighty one mill guaranteed to brock

(27:59):
perty I have a feeling I know what the answer is.
We'll be back to your text, and we'll be back
to your text later in the show. Up next, Fun
with Audio, My first time doing it. Jackson's gonna lead
me through that next ninety three point three kJ R feb.
It's now time for Softy and Dick's fun with Audio.
Jimmy g Poor.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
Star, Jimmy, mister garoppolo.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Now let's have some fun with audio. I'm a maiden voyage.
I'm filling in for Dave Softy Maller and Dick Fame.
Jackson Felt is gonna take me through fun with audio.
There's some of these I have heard and some I haven't. Greg.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Basically, this is a segment where we take funny audio
clips from either the day before or the weekend before,
and we just try to get a little laugh. We
just try to bring some levy to it, and we
have some fun stuff. We always play a certain clip
because we sometimes have a Hugh Millan on these shows, right,
and we welcome him in and he doesn't. He used

(28:56):
to not like this segment, so we always ask what
that Softie or what's that dick for the clip, and
Hugh wanted this recorded at some point because he was tired.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Of saying it, what's that dick?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Well, Hugh, Well, Greg, let's get to our first clip here.
We're gonna go to Sportsnet New York on Saturday the
Mets broadcast, and during the Yankees Mets game, color analyst
Keith Hernandez was talking about thirty seven year old Paul Goldmith,
just thirty seven years old, and he used the world
elderly to talk about thirty seven year old Paul gold Schmid.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
You noted yesterday the August.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
In September, he was much better a change the venue,
new challenge.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
It's always good for an elderly player. I shouldn't elderly
well in the sense of the game. Culturally aging. I
hate to say aging, and that sounds to me. Elderly
sounds more respectful. Aging sounds just deriving about a guy
in the fall of his career.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
On the backside, Yes, here's the thing, he We're all
aging every day. It's a natural process. But what's your
elder league? Probably not playing Big league baseball?

Speaker 1 (30:11):
He speaking of Eldwie Keith r. Nan is seventy one
years old.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
How is he calling a thirty seven year old elderly?

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Paul Goltchmith's in his fifteenth season. But that doesn't make
him eltily either.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Well likely says like it's what he thinks. It's the
kinder way than sin aging.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
What is a seventy one Now, let's not forget he
was an eighties and nineties star for the Cardinals and
the Mets. Yeah. Gary Cohen, By the way, that sports
Net New York broadcast of the Mets is tremendous, so good.
They have an Emmy Award wing or about to be
Emmy Award wing director. I've read a story about how

(30:47):
he makes Mets broadcast like movies because he's a His
background is in cinema, really, and so he directs it
with cinema with fade outs, the sunset and a split
screen and all kinds of stuff. The Mets, if you
are one of those, have of MLB whatever it's called,
to get your all the games, access to full package
out of city games if you haven't the Mets broadcast.

(31:11):
Not to mention Mets are the first place team right now,
but they are fantastic. Gary Cohen, Keith nanders On, those
two are so so good.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Greg and Hugh did you happen to hear that?

Speaker 1 (31:19):
What's that?

Speaker 7 (31:20):
Dick?

Speaker 2 (31:20):
All right, let's go to Shaquille O'Neil, who was doing
a podcast visit last week with Ashley Neville. There was
all this talk about is the NBA draft lottery fixed
after the Mavericks got the number one overall pick. So
all of this talk about fixing NBA draft lotteries led
to this story by Shaquille O'Neil on this podcast.

Speaker 7 (31:40):
I don't know if you heard this story, but in
nineteen ninety two, I think the draft was in June
or something. I meet mister Stearn in March and he
says to me, hey, no you are can't wait for
you to come to the NBA. Then he pulls into
this hot you want to play where it's cold or
it's hot. He asked me that, Yeah, he did. He

(32:03):
asked me that, and I was like, hot, and he
smiled and I smiled. And then a couple of days
later they had the draft thing and you know, the
top three things, and then I saw it was number three.
I was like, and then Charlotte was number two, and
in Orlando, Florida it was number one. I was like,
I didn't think anything about it. But you know, you
hear a lot of these conspiracy theories, and you know

(32:24):
there's a lot of situations that could make these things
sound good and sound true, like, Okay, Dallas gets rid
of one of the one of the best players, but
oh we're getting a new one, ding ding ding ding ding.
So I don't want to use Americ conspiracy theory.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
But Greg, I think it's fixed. I thought it was
fixed when the Knicks got Patrick Ewing way back way
back in the early nineties to get the next back
on the map.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
How rare these things happened, though, Like I know, Dallas
this year and obviously the knicks and stuff, and but
like you know, Lebron goes home, right, But like that
only happens every so often, like Zion Williamson almost exciting
players of the last ten years to come, you know
and be the consensus pick the New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
I mean, that's but the months after what Dallas did
and trading away to Luke, and.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
It obviously looks bad. That's it's for sure. It looks bad.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Let's see if we can fit in maybe one.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, Paul Bisonette, NHL winger, he's on the NHL on TNT.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Where's a maple leafs tie as he's on the panel
in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
What's funny is like this clip that we're about to play,
I don't even think I got the best part of
it great because I walk in, we're kind of going
over these you you brought up that there was an
even better part to what we're about to play. So
so anyway, so obviously Toronto's down Big three nothing. At
the second intermission, and Paul Bisonette is is very, very
angry with how Toronto has looked so far in Game

(33:46):
seven at home.

Speaker 8 (33:46):
This is brutal, This is men versus boys right now,
completely unprepared.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (33:52):
I think they've lost every single fifty to fifty puck battle.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
UH don't know.

Speaker 8 (33:56):
Else how to describe it, but pathetic performance.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
I still have a problem with them booing though, Liam.
I mean, last time I checked the hockey game, sixty minutes,
not forty minutes.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
So as poorly as.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
You might have think you might think the Leafs have played,
you got to give the Florida Panthers a ton of credit.
They're the defending Stanley Cup champions. They ratcheted things up
a little bit. If you're the fans in Toronto, cheer
your team on, give the guys a little bit of optimism.

Speaker 8 (34:17):
To be fair, I think they did after the Florida
scored a couple of times. If I paid five K
for lower Bowl seats and that was the effort I
got there, you.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
Paid for sixty minutes, so there's still a chance.

Speaker 8 (34:26):
Okay, that's fair. I'm gonna still believe. I'm just saying
I'm okay with the booze if that's the effort.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Well, not only that, they lost six to one the
previous home game to Florida, so those fans had already
gone through a boofest and watching absolute trash hockey and
the home ice and then they got three to zero
in the second period on like four shots. Plus. There's
this entitlement in Toronto that you should always win the
Stanley Cup, and they haven't done it since nineteen sixty seven.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
You have that entitlement. The part of my play was
you was the questions.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
So then Liam mckown I was let me just say
this again, and those are listening to me on and
off for the last year, know this. Do not watch
the n NHL playoffs on tn T or ESPN. Watch
him on CBC sports Net. And we and Seattle are
fortunate enough to be able to do that. If you
have cable, Hey, you're paying nine hundred dollars a month
for Comcast Cable. Why not use the one great thing

(35:18):
you have, which is CBC Sports Net and watch every
night of the Standy Cup playoffs on that. So it's
as I was doing. But then I saw the clip
of the TNT studio and Liam McEwan had asked, Okay,
if you're in Toronto's locker room right now, down three
to zero going in the third period of game seven,
what do you say? And Paul Bisonette said that there
are great deals on Expedia to Cancun.

Speaker 9 (35:37):
Right now, you just get ready to vacation. Boys already
over and he was right. Three to ozho became six
to one in the final. You know Toronto has lost
seven straight game set, six straight game sevens chocohonas, Yeah,
that's that's bad.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Hugh Millan is up next to lead off the next hour,
Greg Bell the news shoot and it is in with
Dave in four Dave Softy Motor Dick Fame with Jackson
Felts rolling on a ninety three point three KJRFM

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