May 2, 2025 • 36 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler talks to Mina Kimes from ESPN about the Mariners, Seahawks draft, Shedeur Sanders’ fall, and Bill Belichick’s girlfriend situation, then sits down with Washington Athletic Director Pat Chun ahead of the Huskies’ Spring Game.
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Speaker 3 (00:34):
All right, boys and girls, we are back here at
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Coming Up broadcast starts today at six o'clock. Kickoff around
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two o six, The Sonics on the Way Back soon
the Kraken h our friend Mena Times joining us on
the radio show Here on a Friday night, Mina how
are you.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I mean, the Mariners got me in a good mood lately.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
I don't even know what to do with my hands.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
I watching them.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I'm just riding the way.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
But you know, you know, thirty plus years of Mariners
fandom has taught moverly.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Last twenty has taught me just you know, don't get
your hopes of too much.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, well, let's you know what, let's just start there
for a second. Because you got a baseball team that
is on pace mina to finish what would have been
good enough for third in runs in Major League Baseball
a year ago. Julio hasn't even gotten the engine going yet.
You got a bunch of guys ro Bless, Bliss, Gilbert
Kirby that are all banged up. I mean, are you
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starting to kind of believe in this team and buying
what you're seeing from these guys?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Well, you know, a lot of it, I would say,
And this isn't just the you know, hardened Mariners fandom me,
but this is me trying to be neutral. Some of
it probably isn't quite sustainable. I'm looking at that walk
rate and thinking that I gotta keep that up. But
the fact that the offense is what it is without
Julio really heating up. And then as you alluded to
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the fact that they're being carried by the offense when
we know that the pitching staff can be better, even
if there's some offensive regression, I do think it's going
to be countered by the pitching and perhaps Julio.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Well many times is with us on the radio show,
and I want to get your take on you Dub
and Jedfish and the dogs here in just a second.
We got the spring game again coming up tonight at
six thirty. But give me a thought on first of all,
what the Seahawks did over the weekend, Grey Zabel going
at number eighteen, moving up to get Nicki min Warri
Jalen Milroe is now a Seahawk eleven players overall, What
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was your take on the draft class for the Hawks.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
It's exciting.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I think that's my first take, is like, there's some
really exciting players and it's a nice blend of I
wouldn't say safe picks, but you know, Zabel in the
first round might have been one of the most smocks
like chalk draft picks of all time, right Like, And
it's funny because now we're going on you know, a
few years where John Schneider has been pretty damn normal.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
In the first round, Cross was.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Right, you know what I mean, You get like, ain't
no running backs?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Like it's Cross. I think was very like, Okay, yeah,
that was pretty chalky.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Witherspoon is a player who you know, maybe it's high
for the corner, but we.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Knew Detroit wanted him and it was a position of need.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
And now Gray's Abel was like the most obvious glaring
need and.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
The right player. So you feel good about.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
That and the floor that he brings, and I do
believe he has a high floor, but then you also
get excited about the upside that they got elsewhere. Nick
Amin worry is, you know, one of the most athletic
safety prospects of all time, bit Raw.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
We'll see how that shakes out, but the ceiling is high.
And I think you feel the same way about mill Row.
He is a developmental quarterback.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
He is a lottery pick. But if that lottery pick hits,
then you've really hit the jackpot.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Well, let's go back to Zabel for a second.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
You mentioned the high floor for a guy that played
though at the FCS level and We've talked a bit
on this show about the competition he faced there. What
does the ceiling honestly look like you think for Gray's Abel.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Well, I'll tell you this, and I'm very honest with you.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I don't really trust my ability to evaluate offensive line prospects,
so I ask people who are.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Smarter than me.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
You know, it's a hard position, right to sketch, So
I ask people who played the position always and whether
it's like my friend, like Michael Junior and Mitchell Schre
just ask around, and universally people were very high on him.
And I think you know, he he talked about the
level competition, no doubt, but I think people really impressed
by him and the Spring and.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Senior Bowl and that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
And I love the fact that he's played so many
positions because you know, while I play guard for Seattle,
we have seen certainly over the last few years, Hole
seemed to spring up on the Seahawks offensive line all
the time. So the fact that he, you know, can
actually kick out the tackle you play center, I think
it's a Seahawks fan, you gotta be excited that.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I mean, you mentioned Milroe there, and I'm just curious
kind of how you see him being used from the
get go, you know, down the road. I'm sure he
would like to be the air apparent to Sam Donald.
The Seahawks might want him to be the air apparent
to Sam Donald. But Week one, for example, in September,
how do we see Jalen Milroe fitting in?
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I think I.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Saw coach McDonald say, you know, we're not gonna use
them like Taysom Hill, and like, look, I'll believe that
one I see it. He is too good of an
athlete to k not get on the field in packages.
And when I say that, I think he'd be using packages.
I personally don't believe that stunts his development. I don't
think it says anything about who he is as a
long term quarterback. I just think he's a damn good
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football player and he's an athlete, and you want him
on the field because he is one of the honestly
one of the best runners at the position that I've
seen in like, you know, a very long time. And
in the meantime, you know he canna be used that
way here and there he can work on developing at
the quarterback position. You know, he has cannon arm in
addition to being an athlete, but on tape in Alabama,
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a lot of inconsistency games where he looked unbelievable, games
where he looked credibly inaccurate to me. So this is
an opportunity for him, I think, just to continue getting
better behind Sam Donald.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, I don't know where you are.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I mean, and many times again with us from a
bridge physical therapy and wellness on Mercer Island, from the
ESPN with us every Friday on the radio show, I
don't know where you are on the kind of hashtag
never kick, never punt philosophy, right, But I'm wondering, with
this Milroe kid now in the mix, is there a
chance that we could see Mike McDonald on fourth and
six inches from his own thirty eight yard line just
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say the hell with it and go for it and
put Milroe in the wildcat and let him run power right.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Up the gut and pick up that free first out.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
A lot of people complain that Pete Carroll wasn't aggressive
enough when he was here in Seattle. Do we see
McDonald maybe going down that road with this kid and
really opening things up and keeping the ball.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I mean, I would, honestly, I mean, have you watched
him Carrie's football and like, you know, fourth to one
stuff is a lot that goes into that in terms of,
you know, he's not like Jalen Hurts. He's a little smaller,
but holy crap, he can run. And it's not even
just like oh he's big and fast or whatever.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
He runs with like unbelievable vision and agility. Like he's
a really special runner.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
So I just don't I just don't see how you
don't find a way to get him on the field.
And I do not view it as limiting to him
or his development.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, well, Mina times again is with us and men know,
we had nickim and Warre's position coach at South Carolina Tory,
and Gray was with us on the air yesterday and
the first thing he did when he came on with
us is remind us that he coached Cam Chancellor at
Virginia Tech. And he's the one that's kind of making
comparisons between Cam and Emon Worri. People that have watched
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the tape on this guy. You know, Hugh Millen watched
the tape and said he was hoping for a little
more violence from Emon Worri. So maybe the comparisons to
Cam were a little bit maybe over the top, But
what you make of this kid, because man, did he
crush it at the combine among safeties. He was just
a freak at the combine and a guy the Hawks
moved up to get.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
You know, it sounds like I'm a little bit aligned
with Q. When I watched him, I didn't remind me
of Cam very much. He looks like Cam getting off
the bus, because he's enormous and he's jacked and he's
he's very tough looking. But you know, I wasn't watching
him thinking man physicality violence.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
I was thinking he can. He can.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
He has the athleticism to play man coverage, he has
the lengths to interfere with football and I and I
think he's a good tackler when he when he arrives
at it.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
But I think you know, there were games against.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Alabama, actually I was thinking because I was watching Milroe
against him, where you saw some errors in terms of
kind of bad angles here and there, mistackles, things that
he'll have to clean up as a pro. But it
sounds like from all accounts he's an unbelievable word as well,
So I think he will be able to and then
you know he gets he joins it. Just a fantastic
situation in Seattle where it's already a very good secondary
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and he's not going to be asked to plug a hole,
right like he can be used in the correct way.
With Mike McDonald, who's somebody I certainly trust when it
comes to the safety position.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, I mean, I gotta be honest with you. I
fancy myself a bit of a homer. I mean, there's
a difference between a homer and an apologist in my opinion, right, Like,
sometimes the homer in you gets a little bit aggressive,
and maybe you tend to be a little too critical
because you're a fan at a homer of the teams
that you cover. But I'm seeing Vegas putting the over
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under for the Seahawks that's seven and a.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Half wins, and that feels way too low for me.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
That feels like taking candy from a baby to play
the over. How about you?
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Is that the worst in the division?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It is ty maybe Tyler Arizona.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah, no, I would. I would take you over for sure.
And I'm you know, I'm someone we've been chatting now
for a bit. I've been pretty critical of some of
the off season decisions I've liked others. I like the
draft class, but I think something that maybe is getting
lost nationally. I don't know, Vegas. This is an ascended defense, right,
like you really saw things turn around the second half
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of the season. And even if the offense treads water,
which is kind of what I I don't foresee a
ton of offensive provement.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I love to be wrong, obviously as a.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Fan, I think the defense is good enough for them
to be regarded as better than that.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Personally, No, you're right.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Last half of the year they were bad, asked no question,
and they should be better now in year number two
under Mike McDonald. But me, the Times is with us
again right here on the radio show and me and
obviously the big story from a national perspective, felt like
and I don't know what it felt like in the
offices at ESPN on the set of the show that
you guys were working during the weekend in Green Bay,
but it really felt like the biggest talking point was
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Shador Sanders and what happened to him in the fall.
A lot of fighting, a lot of screaming, a lot
of yelling, a lot of arguing going on about what
happened to Shador.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
What was your takeaway from the weekend for him?
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Oh golly, I.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Mean, it's like so complicated, you know, because this story
gets so big that, like people who aren't even care
about the draft, you know, just kind of casual football fans,
we're asking, like what happened, right because people were talking
about this guy like he was the top quarterback and
suddenly he's on the fifth and it's more than just football,
but it's also football, right, Like, so I think what
(11:16):
I would say if I try to keep it somewhat
brief from a football perspective, Shador was not close to
cam word, and I think clearly teams saw him as
outside of a first round pick, maybe second third is
where I second, I thought from my personal and a vacuum.
But then when you take a quarterback, it's more than football.
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And I'm not talking about you know, narratives or perceptions.
There's the actual draft process and how players treat it.
And from all accounts, it sounds like the way he
and his team treated the draft process was not appreciated
but well, and so I think that's how you go
from falling maybe one or two rounds to falling all
the way to the.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Fifth Well, you know, and look, I mean, obviously there's
been arguments about that. You know, how he presented himself,
you know, stories about taking FaceTime calls and all that,
and having his headphones around his neck hearing music while
he's doing interviews, and then other people just say, well, yeah,
but the tape shows a much better quarterback than a
fifth round guy. So I guess that really is my
question to you. Did you see a first round quarterback
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on tape? Or was he drafted where he should have
been drafted when you watch the actual film on the guy.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I thought late first maybe early seconda that's how I
felt it.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
I think, you know, he definitely he didn't.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
He only has kind of average tools in terms of athleticism,
below average aleticism, and then arm strength is kind of.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Average, little bit below average.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
But he's accurate, he's tough, he's a playmaker, and you
know we've seen time and time again guys with that
set of tools. Teddy Bridgewater is a player who comes
to mind who he kind of hightened me up to
be honest, if you are scoring well. On the other
side of it, the intangibles and leadership and all that,
you'll still go decent recently high.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
So I think just purely from football standpoint.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
From my point of view, I saw him late first,
maybe early second, and I think a lot of folks agreed, honestly,
Like you know, talking to teams, I don't think anyone thinks, again,
if it was just purely football, this is a fifth
round quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Sure, how much chatter was there?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Mean, and I realized that I'm asking you to kind
of take us behind the scenes a little bit at
ESPN and feel free to share whatever you want or
you know, how much you're ever comfortable with. But man,
there was a lot of talk about mel Kiper's reaction
to Shador Sanders fallen, right, I mean that was Yeah,
that was almost a story in itself. So him and
Rehese Davis going at it. What did you make of that?
And how much conversation was there about that behind the scenes?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Well, not a lot on my end because I'm actually
no on TV during the draft, so we do NFL Live.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
We did it for two hours from Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
During the day and then we're done, which is great,
by the way, not working during the drafts, I just
get to watch it like y'all, like just watch it
on TV, and you know, like listen, I obviously you
just heard me talk about Shador.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
I disagree.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
This is mel came on our show all draft season
and him and I disagreed about Shador. He said, this
is the best quarterback in the draft. I said, I
don't think so, you know, like so I didn't agree
with him, and so his opinions definitely aren't aligned with mine.
But I do think, you know, the draft was unbelievably entertaining,
and the ratings reflect that. I think the Day three
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ratings were like the highest ever or something. So I
think just from the standpoint of people watching it, it
clearly was very entertaining to.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
A lot of people, There's no question, and I think
a lot of that is because of Shador Sanders.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I mean, you just mentioned the Day three ratings. I mean,
I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
We're on the golf course on Saturday morning, and we're
all watching our phones just to see where this kid
gets drafted, right, I mean some of them are waiting
to see how far he fell, Others hopeing he went
to maybe their favorite team.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
But there's no doubt that Shador Sanders brought some ratings
magic to the draft. On Saturday, Mina, I'm on the
front page of ESPN dot com and I cannot get
away from Bill Belichick and his girlfriend. I mean, it's
just ridiculous how big this story has become. Does this
interview with CBS where his girlfriend apparently cut it off
and said, we're not going to talk about how we met.
Now there's there's all these stories about her having an
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eight million dollar real estate fortune, you know, just weeks
after she met Bill. Bill's now on a tour defending her.
I mean, I'll just ask you the same question I
asked the guys yesterday.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Why should I care?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Why is a fan should I care about Bill Belichick
and his girlfriend?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I think it's like the perfect low stakes, drama, gossipy
type story, right, like on your face, who cares?
Speaker 5 (15:40):
I guess if you're a UNC football.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Fan, you might care, right So I, or you know,
anyone who's kind of thinking like about Bill and whether
he's gonna be successful in college. You look at this
and it does appear to be interfering with the program.
So I think it's like reasonable to look at it
from a college football standpoint, or if you're somebody who's
like interested in Bill Belichick, his legacy, how he's regarded whatnot.
As somebody who is not particularly invested in you know,
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those things. From the outside, it's just titillating. I think
it's just kind of like it has like a tabloidy
feel to it.
Speaker 8 (16:09):
Now.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I think you know, it's not something that merit's like
great handwright ringing or like moralizing from my standpoint to
be honest, but I do understand why people are interesting
intrigued by it because I'm.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I click on all those videos too, so you're not
watching them, so you know it is not my attention.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Do you think he's ever going to coach it down
again in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I god, I think we're seeing a little bit of
why he isn't in the NFL right now.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Is that fair to say?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I mean, I I don't know, you tell me. I mean,
is he just going.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Well just in terms of like I don't know, maybe like.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Not being as I don't want to say sharp, but
like in control as he was during his time in
New England.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
I think that's got to be It's hard not to
look at this and Field that way.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, I mean, do you believe that? Again?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Like, if you're I just asked you, why should I care?
And I guess if I'm a North Carolina fan, should
I be concerned that maybe his girlfriend has more authority
over the football team than we think he does.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I would be more concerned about whether's the perception of
the football team in the program is affected by it
and has appeal to players, right, because perception matters so much.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
In college football.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
It's not like like if this is the NFL, it
we'd be like, oh yeah, right, guys aren't going to
sign with the Patriots, like you know, it's just then,
But college football, you know, perception matters, image matters, money matters.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
So I think that would be my takeaway. It's like,
m like, what is this doing for our program?
Speaker 9 (17:48):
Right?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
No doubt?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
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Speaker 3 (18:37):
You know, Jack So, one of my favorite things to
do here in Washington, has come over and talked to
Pat Shun because Pat Shun is not like other ads.
A lot of other ads that I've spoken to. We'll
talk before we go on the air, and there's always
one question I get from that man or woman before
they come on the air, and hey, what do you
want to talk about?
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I don't get that ever from.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Noel, like either A you don't give a damn right,
which is certainly possible, or be I can just spring
you whatever I want to spring you with, and you'll
answer as honest as you can.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Well, I'll be honest. I'm only here because of Jument.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Oh really, Okay, gotcha gotcha.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Oh, it's good to see cats and dogs long it is.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Well, she loves this place.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
She she told me she wanted to come see you
with a real college football stadium look like, so instead
of the high school stadium she sees six times a
year in Pullman. But it's good to see a patch
on the eighty at Washington this year and second year
in a row, now that we've done this dogs after
dark thing on Friday, which selfishly I love because it
opens up to Saturday.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
By the way, So I'm.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Working anyway, miss on a Friday.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
H trust me, that's gonna start in about five minutes
as you're done, so, uh, talk.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
To me about this. I'm trying to remember were you
here last year for this thing?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
You were, so your thoughts on this idea, what we
learned about, what makes it tick differences from a year
ago to today. Uh, because this will be an annual thing.
This is not going away right Yeah, well.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
One, I think it's just trying to market the team
a little bit differently. At the end of the day,
I mean, this is a practice. It's the last practice
of the spring. Who knows what springball is going to
look like in college football next year anyways, with the
way we're headed. But I think it's just also, you know,
we've got we got I think we're gonna get lucky
with weather tonight. I think we have fifty thousand tickets out.
You know, if we get a fifty percent show rate,
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that'd be incredible. I think what everyone here will see
is a very how much we've changed over a year.
I think most specifically on the offense, on the line
of scrimmage. The Big Ten. You know that, you you know,
the Big Ten is a line of scrimmage league. You
have to win the line of scrimmage. And it's been
pretty it's been pretty fun. I mean I've told a
lot of people, you know, the past thirteen months, I've
watched coach fish poor concrete into this football program, and
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really the foundation has to be the line of scrimmage.
And I think, if anything, the fun part is it's
kind of a year marker of where we're at. And
you know, we'll have you know, we'll have a really
good we'll have you know, we'll have a good crowd tonight.
I think we have more recruits, more, more higher rated
recruits here today. The talent on the field's different. You
don't have to ask her. A number one quarterback is
(21:02):
he may not take a snap either, Oh yeah, but yeah,
but you're it's gonna be important to see you the
number two qua wow. Yeah. So so if he takes
a snap, I probably ain't. No one's gonna touch him, right, yeah. So,
but I think it just shows, Hey, we're growing and
at the end of the day, you know, these are
all little markers of uh, you know, we gotta be
a program that's constantly improving, and this is just a
nice marker year over year how much we've improved.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Well, I thought the crowd last year was great, right,
I mean looking to improve, but comparatively speaking.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Before Chris Pearson told me last year, if you get
one person over ten thousand, sh be.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Doing, no question about that. But here's the thing. You
need a coach to embrace it. And I was talking
to Tony about this just a few hours ago, Pat
that nobody's embraced this the way Jed has. Yeah, I
mean he's embraced everything with the program. I've often wondered,
does he have his hand in too much? To be
honest with you, what do you think about that? From
an AD's perspective, because Jed's talked about the training table,
(21:57):
He's talked about the TV broadcast, he's talked about the
spring game, he's talked about tickets, he's talked about sale gating.
I've never heard of coach talk more about everything happening
with the program more so than Jed Fish And I
almost wonder when I showed up, is he worried about
too much stuff?
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Well, unfortunately, I've been around coaches that have won national
championships in their career and they are very meticulous and
very invested right and and and have opinions on a
lot of things. So it is not it is not
abnormal for me personally good to have a coach that
that wants to understand everything in and around the program,
which is Alfie. Now, at the end of the day,
(22:33):
it's recruiting and x's and o's that matter. Uh, he
gets at and and he's you know, he's he's you know,
laser focused on recruiting. You know, I think the changes
we've made with the staff this last year, just because
we've had to bring in some new people, I think
everyone's going to be happy with what they see. So,
you know, it's it's he's a coach that he's fully
invested in, and i'd probably you know, for those who
(22:54):
are listening, you know, it's it's kind of indicative of Hey,
he's he's trying to build a program that's stir because
he wants to be here a long time.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah, no doubt. Well one of the curve balls. I
was going to ask you, by the way, and this
is the fun part of your job. You'll get to
come on shows like this and get challenged, right, I.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Mean I'll take fastballs.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, I'll give you a few easy ones, you know,
right down the middle. But you just mentioned that, you know,
he wants to be here a long time. We've seen
coaches we're literally a year into their contract. There's already
conversations about extension.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Has any of that talk even begun with Jed and
his represent.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Me personally, I keep those conversations.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Oh come on, it's just between us.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
So all those all those conversations anything with contracts, Yeah,
that'll always be between me and the head coaches.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Okay, okay, regardless of the sports. So we're learning stuff
about you on the fly years. So no more contract
questions or we can ask you, but you won't answer.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
That's what you're doing.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
I'll dance around the curve back.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I got you, I got you. Well, I'm looking at
a story here that came out yesterday. It says Texas
is going to spend you saw this, right between thirty
five and forty million dollars on its football team in
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Where are we compared to them?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Well, we're going to be at the max of revshare,
So that's twenty point five of it, and then whatever
we're at on top of on top of what this
roster is at. So I would probably say, I mean,
the reality is, I don't know what retention looks like
when the picture you have on there is the most
recognizable person in college.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Football right now in terms of.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
So every every place a little bit different. But we're
we're at max with we'll be at max with with revshare.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
You know in this new environment that we're hopefully going
to be in if if Judge Wilkin approves the settlement,
we believe we're gonna be at we have it. We
will have a competitive advantage because of Seattle. We've we've
created our own marketing agency internally, Dogs Unleashed. We've been
talking with businesses. I mean, obviously, the portfolio of businesses
in this community is unlike any other in the book
(24:51):
Big ten. I mean this is different than LA one
because we have such a huge piece of the market here.
And two, I mean two of the most five two
of the five most profitable companies in the world older
here in Amazon and Microsoft. And we already talked about everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Else and iHeartMedia by that, and I heeart media.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
So we have there's a there's a there's a yeah,
there's a lot of opportunity. But me personally, just so
you know, I do not compare us to others.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
I thought my focus is Washington being the best Washington
is supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I I don't know Pat, And again Pat Chunn is
with us. If the average fan like these two knuckleheads
sitting over here by the way, really no, no, I
pointed this way, My god, I would never ever do that.
I know who you run with. I don't want to
mingle and anger those types of people. But the the
twenty point five million, the rev shure that you're talking about,
(25:36):
that is total dollars spent on all sports sports, yess,
So how much of that's going to the football team.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
So we we will give the I guess our formula. Obviously,
football is the reason why all this revenue is here, right,
So our primary stablements are going to be football, men's basketball,
women's basketball, volleyball, and softball. But I mean, obviously a
line share that is going to go to the football party.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Sure, got you so.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
And it's just it's it's a byproduct of a bunch
of bunch of reasons. One, it's it's the league that
we're in. I mean, this is a football league, uh,
and for us, and we're in this and and Washington
is in the Big Ten because of our football program, right,
so they go hand in hand. I mean, we had
a bunch of our alums here last night and it
reminded him. You know, this is seven hundred and eighty wins,
what forty three bowl games, eighteen conference championships, two national championships,
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like that's some that is significant history with this program,
and our duty is to add to that. And without
that history, we would not be in the Big ten.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
It's actually three if you include the eighty four Chicago
Tribune poll.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
By the way, but.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
We're the type of school we don't have to we
have an option of acknowledging.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Okay, some peoples don't have that.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
Some schools don't have that option of acknowledge.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Hey, I tell you just to not I mean, doesn't
Alabama have like fifteen unrecognized titles that they claim or whatever?
But patchung with us again, you'd have ada. I'm just
wondering about the negotiations that go on and how and
maybe take us behind the scenes a bit if you
can souation with a kid.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
From Tennessee that went to UCLA.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, clearly wasn't happy, wanted tonegotiate his deal.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
How concerned should I be?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
As Dave the dog fan, that's something like that could
happen here during spring football during the season, where a
player would go to jeded and say, hey, I'm outperforming
my deal, I want more or I'm going to walk.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Well, it's indicative of the environment we're in. Hopefully in
this next phase we have meaningful contracts. There's a lot
that has to happen college football to get there good.
Our revenue share year will be July one to June thirtieth.
That has to the football calendar has to reflect that.
So and the best example of what has to change
(27:40):
is the portal they just don't work anymore. But there's
a lot that's that's baked into that. So it's it's
you know, we're an industry that for since the beginning
of a time, or since the beginning of agents being
a part of it. They they understand what the opportunities are. Clearly,
the young man felt like he wanted needed more money.
(28:01):
That took him to UCLA. We'll see how it ends
up for him. But you know, it's it's it's it's
a it's a it's a sad example of what college
football is supposed to be. Yeah, I mean it's like
it's it's fun being around all these alums the last
couple of days because you know, it's it's different. I mean,
college football is different. We get it now. The world's change.
It is nego. Like the dollars do matter, with the revenue,
(28:24):
sharing with athletes does matter. But the hope is we
buying people, you know, hopefully the experience there's a there.
We can time with emotion, like, we can time with
connectivity like they like hopefully in this time, like we
can connect them with their teammates, connect them with friends
on campus, connect them with the professors connected with this
UDUB experience because there's still you know, we believe there's
(28:45):
immeasurable value in this UDUB experience. But that's a tough
situation and you don't wish ill on anybody. But you know,
Tennessee lost in that, and the young man lost.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
That, right, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Well Pat young with us, And again, I mean you
mentioned meetingful contracts, like, yeah, we're talking multi year deals,
like a kid could agree to a four year deal
a three years good.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Yeah, I mean we'll see what the market. You know,
it's going to be market driven to a certain degree,
but sure, you know. And probably the best example of
you know, of Jed building for the for a long
future here is we're focused on high school recruiting. Like
if he was burning through a bunch of fifty fourth
and fifty year guys right now, I'd probably be worried
that he's got a short term plan. But he's doing it.
(29:24):
But you know he's he's doing it by doing because
he knows he has to attract and retain and develop
young people from the high school ranks. So and so
part of it is you talk about where the future is.
You know, part of is identifying the right guys, right.
You know, it's like, you know, John Mills is here.
A lot of schools wanted him. Uh, he's got He's
a generational husky. And I'm not saying that doesn't guarantee
(29:46):
anything right away, but it is very very personal to
to John Mills and his family for him to be
at Washington.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
So this spring game thing that we're doing, there's dogs
after dark. A lot of teams aren't doing this. Yeah,
they've canceled spring games. Yeah, Texas is one of them,
by the way. Yeah, I mean that's amazing. That's Texas, right,
one of the blue bloods of college football, winning his
programs in college football history, has said we're done with
the spring game.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Can you ever imagine that happening here?
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Yeah? I could see that happening. Yeah. I think the
whole calendar is going to change that. That's my opinion
with these with these new contracts and what what happens
to spring football in general, I think is going to
be impacted by got.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
You, got you, By the way, Just for the record,
just so we know moving forward, you and me, I
was not referring to your wife as a knucklehead, but
if I did refer to your wife as a knucklehead?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
What's what's the reaction there for me?
Speaker 6 (30:35):
I would get punched if you refer to her by
her by her.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
And then I would get punched by you. And nobody
wants to get punched by anybody.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Funny thing is she actually is laughing.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I would never do that, Hey, and I I hope
that you never give me a reason to call you
a knucklehead.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
That'd be awest and if you do, we'll be friends
that night.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
But good stuff, have fun appreciated by dogs.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
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Speaker 3 (31:26):
Jackson, One of my all time favorite Huskies is sitting
right in front of me right now, a guy named
Tommy Smith who played safety back here on the ninety
one team, and he sounds nothing like he played back.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
In the day. By the way, it's unbelievable. And we've
heard in which joins of Tommy Smith.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Tommy Smith was the kind of guy that would tuck
his jersey up underneath his pads, show off his six pack,
and he was badass back in the day. I mean
him and Pallacoa and Dana and Walter Bailey and all
those guys were just unbelievable. So you put if you
put Tommy on the air, which I don't know where
he went, but he would just look at it say hi.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
I'm Timrection doesn't sound anything like he played back in
the day. So hey, how about how about Pat Chung
when he was on with the air with us kind
of insinuating I guess we're gonna find out soon that
we may not see a lot of number two tonight.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 8 (32:14):
I think he kind of kind of clearly let the
cat out of the bag right there, and he may have.
I guess I would just ask why, like and I'm
this is it's bigger than a practice. This is way
more than a practice. But at the same time, like
you got I don't know how many tens of thousands
of fans. He got out there like this, we got
Heisman hype for this kid. Let him show off to
the fans a little bit, like yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Hope we see him. I mean, like maybe he's dealing
with something.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I don't know, but I mean, we're looking for you know,
the red jerseys, the gold jerseys, looking to see number
two out there. I'm I'm I'm in the all the
way in the east end zone. I can't see anything,
by the way, because all the guys are on the.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Opposite side of the field.
Speaker 9 (32:52):
Man.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
So it's like it's like looking through a forest to
find a treat for crying out loud. So we're gonna
see if we see number two out there before everything
gets going. But I look, I mean, I agree with you,
you know, throw him out there, let him have a
couple of reps, whatever, give the fans what they want.
He clearly is the number one focus on this football
team right now, when nobody's done a better job of
hyping him up or more responsible excuse me for hyping
(33:13):
him up than Jed. I mean, heck, the guy last
year was talking about, you know him be in the
face of the program.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
And going to New York City one day.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
And I could never imagine Don James or even Jim Lambright,
or hell even Chris Peterson talking like that for crying
out loud. But I do see a Number two out
there right now going through warm ups, so he does.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Have his full uniform on.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
So we'll see if he does get out there tonight
and play a little bit. But you know, I mean,
how much can we take from a game like this tonight?
Probably not a lot. I mean, my god, they're playing
at seventy five percent. Nobody's getting blown up, right, There's
obviously a lot.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
They're not gonna show.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
There's gonna be some spies in the crowd. There's gonna
be people watching a big ten network to see what
these guys are all about.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
This is a practice and it's a show for the crowd.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
There's there's literally I don't think anything that you can
take from a game like this tonight. Now, maybe Millen
will sit here and pull something from this game, but
I'm not looking to All I'm looking to do is
have fun and make sure nobody gets hurt.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
That is the number one priority tonight.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Make sure nobody gets hurt, and let's get home and
let's get safe in time for fall camp in August.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
It's for the fans.
Speaker 8 (34:17):
You're right, and that's why it would surprise me so
much because of what Jed's done regarding Demon Williams to
not play him. So the fact that he is out there,
like you, I get it. You you don't want to
risk any injury. But like when we're building hype around
the program and when we want people to also come
out to we want these Spring Games to be a
big deal.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
We want people to come out there every.
Speaker 8 (34:38):
Single year of these especially when you got what it
was like, sixty five degrees, beautiful, beautiful, Mike Gosh ask for.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Better weather for the spring.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
You want people out there and you want to be
able to show off your you know the potential of
Heisman Demon Williams, so you got to play him as
much as you can.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Well, I think that there's a chance to at least
just see some new face in person for the first time.
Amari Evans obviously the transfer wide receiver from Penn State.
You know, Gary and Hatchett back after spending a year
at Oklahoma. He was hurt, but he was there. And
then Carver Willis number fifty, who's the new left tackle
for these guys?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
The transfer from Kansas State.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
But you know, like Amar Evans, right, I mean, he
goes to Penn State, puts up okay numbers. But obviously
the majority of their passes were getting thrown to a
guy named Tyler Warren a year ago, so he's probably
gonna get more of a target situation here that is
maybe more to his liking. And then you know, look,
we're gonna see Quintin Moore. I don't think we'll see
him tonight obviously, but that old thing drove me frickin' nuts,
(35:37):
by the way, the Quinton Moore thing, because here you
have a guy that comes off the sideline for Weaber State,
takes him up by his knee, blows his knee out,
he misses an entire year and never gets an apology.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I mean, I was asking Jed Fisher about that.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Did they ever call you and say, hey, man, we're
sorry we ruined the guy's season for you?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
And they never did? I mean, like, is nobody pissed
about that?
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I mean, I realized the guy got the year back,
but still at the age at twenty two years old,
and you never know how he's gonna respond to the injury,
By the way, will he be the same player? Will
he deal with side effects? Will he lose speed? Will
he lose quickness? I mean that whole thing. Man, If
I could do stronger language on the air right now,
I could just absolute chicken crap what he had to
(36:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:34):
All right, boys and girls, we are back here at
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Coming Up broadcast starts today at six o'clock. Kickoff around
six point thirty ish with Tony Cam myself walk on
the sidelines of roaming the sidelines. But I know our
next guest is fired up for Husky football. She's fired
up for Husky football, mayor her baseball, Seahawk Football Everything
(00:55):
two o six, The Sonics on the Way Back soon
the Kraken h our friend Mena Times joining us on
the radio show Here on a Friday night, Mina how
are you.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I mean, the Mariners got me in a good mood lately.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
I don't even know what to do with my hands.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
I watching them.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I'm just riding the way.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
But you know, you know, thirty plus years of Mariners
fandom has taught moverly.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Last twenty has taught me just you know, don't get
your hopes of too much.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, well, let's you know what, let's just start there
for a second. Because you got a baseball team that
is on pace mina to finish what would have been
good enough for third in runs in Major League Baseball
a year ago. Julio hasn't even gotten the engine going yet.
You got a bunch of guys ro Bless, Bliss, Gilbert
Kirby that are all banged up. I mean, are you
(01:44):
starting to kind of believe in this team and buying
what you're seeing from these guys?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Well, you know, a lot of it, I would say,
And this isn't just the you know, hardened Mariners fandom me,
but this is me trying to be neutral. Some of
it probably isn't quite sustainable. I'm looking at that walk
rate and thinking that I gotta keep that up. But
the fact that the offense is what it is without
Julio really heating up. And then as you alluded to
(02:11):
the fact that they're being carried by the offense when
we know that the pitching staff can be better, even
if there's some offensive regression, I do think it's going
to be countered by the pitching and perhaps Julio.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Well many times is with us on the radio show,
and I want to get your take on you Dub
and Jedfish and the dogs here in just a second.
We got the spring game again coming up tonight at
six thirty. But give me a thought on first of all,
what the Seahawks did over the weekend, Grey Zabel going
at number eighteen, moving up to get Nicki min Warri
Jalen Milroe is now a Seahawk eleven players overall, What
(02:43):
was your take on the draft class for the Hawks.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
It's exciting.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I think that's my first take, is like, there's some
really exciting players and it's a nice blend of I
wouldn't say safe picks, but you know, Zabel in the
first round might have been one of the most smocks
like chalk draft picks of all time, right Like, And
it's funny because now we're going on you know, a
few years where John Schneider has been pretty damn normal.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
In the first round, Cross was.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Right, you know what I mean, You get like, ain't
no running backs?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Like it's Cross. I think was very like, Okay, yeah,
that was pretty chalky.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Witherspoon is a player who you know, maybe it's high
for the corner, but we.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Knew Detroit wanted him and it was a position of need.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
And now Gray's Abel was like the most obvious glaring
need and.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
The right player. So you feel good about.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
That and the floor that he brings, and I do
believe he has a high floor, but then you also
get excited about the upside that they got elsewhere. Nick
Amin worry is, you know, one of the most athletic
safety prospects of all time, bit Raw.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
We'll see how that shakes out, but the ceiling is high.
And I think you feel the same way about mill Row.
He is a developmental quarterback.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
He is a lottery pick. But if that lottery pick hits,
then you've really hit the jackpot.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Well, let's go back to Zabel for a second.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
You mentioned the high floor for a guy that played
though at the FCS level and We've talked a bit
on this show about the competition he faced there. What
does the ceiling honestly look like you think for Gray's Abel.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Well, I'll tell you this, and I'm very honest with you.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I don't really trust my ability to evaluate offensive line prospects,
so I ask people who are.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Smarter than me.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
You know, it's a hard position, right to sketch, So
I ask people who played the position always and whether
it's like my friend, like Michael Junior and Mitchell Schre
just ask around, and universally people were very high on him.
And I think you know, he he talked about the
level competition, no doubt, but I think people really impressed
by him and the Spring and.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Senior Bowl and that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
And I love the fact that he's played so many
positions because you know, while I play guard for Seattle,
we have seen certainly over the last few years, Hole
seemed to spring up on the Seahawks offensive line all
the time. So the fact that he, you know, can
actually kick out the tackle you play center, I think
it's a Seahawks fan, you gotta be excited that.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I mean, you mentioned Milroe there, and I'm just curious
kind of how you see him being used from the
get go, you know, down the road. I'm sure he
would like to be the air apparent to Sam Donald.
The Seahawks might want him to be the air apparent
to Sam Donald. But Week one, for example, in September,
how do we see Jalen Milroe fitting in?
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I think I.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Saw coach McDonald say, you know, we're not gonna use
them like Taysom Hill, and like, look, I'll believe that
one I see it. He is too good of an
athlete to k not get on the field in packages.
And when I say that, I think he'd be using packages.
I personally don't believe that stunts his development. I don't
think it says anything about who he is as a
long term quarterback. I just think he's a damn good
(05:43):
football player and he's an athlete, and you want him
on the field because he is one of the honestly
one of the best runners at the position that I've
seen in like, you know, a very long time. And
in the meantime, you know he canna be used that
way here and there he can work on developing at
the quarterback position. You know, he has cannon arm in
addition to being an athlete, but on tape in Alabama,
(06:03):
a lot of inconsistency games where he looked unbelievable, games
where he looked credibly inaccurate to me. So this is
an opportunity for him, I think, just to continue getting
better behind Sam Donald.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, I don't know where you are.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I mean, and many times again with us from a
bridge physical therapy and wellness on Mercer Island, from the
ESPN with us every Friday on the radio show, I
don't know where you are on the kind of hashtag
never kick, never punt philosophy, right, But I'm wondering, with
this Milroe kid now in the mix, is there a
chance that we could see Mike McDonald on fourth and
six inches from his own thirty eight yard line just
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say the hell with it and go for it and
put Milroe in the wildcat and let him run power right.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Up the gut and pick up that free first out.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
A lot of people complain that Pete Carroll wasn't aggressive
enough when he was here in Seattle. Do we see
McDonald maybe going down that road with this kid and
really opening things up and keeping the ball.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I mean, I would, honestly, I mean, have you watched
him Carrie's football and like, you know, fourth to one
stuff is a lot that goes into that in terms of,
you know, he's not like Jalen Hurts. He's a little smaller,
but holy crap, he can run. And it's not even
just like oh he's big and fast or whatever.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
He runs with like unbelievable vision and agility. Like he's
a really special runner.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
So I just don't I just don't see how you
don't find a way to get him on the field.
And I do not view it as limiting to him
or his development.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, well, Mina times again is with us and men know,
we had nickim and Warre's position coach at South Carolina Tory,
and Gray was with us on the air yesterday and
the first thing he did when he came on with
us is remind us that he coached Cam Chancellor at
Virginia Tech. And he's the one that's kind of making
comparisons between Cam and Emon Worri. People that have watched
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the tape on this guy. You know, Hugh Millen watched
the tape and said he was hoping for a little
more violence from Emon Worri. So maybe the comparisons to
Cam were a little bit maybe over the top, But
what you make of this kid, because man, did he
crush it at the combine among safeties. He was just
a freak at the combine and a guy the Hawks
moved up to get.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
You know, it sounds like I'm a little bit aligned
with Q. When I watched him, I didn't remind me
of Cam very much. He looks like Cam getting off
the bus, because he's enormous and he's jacked and he's
he's very tough looking. But you know, I wasn't watching
him thinking man physicality violence.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
I was thinking he can. He can.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
He has the athleticism to play man coverage, he has
the lengths to interfere with football and I and I
think he's a good tackler when he when he arrives
at it.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
But I think you know, there were games against.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Alabama, actually I was thinking because I was watching Milroe
against him, where you saw some errors in terms of
kind of bad angles here and there, mistackles, things that
he'll have to clean up as a pro. But it
sounds like from all accounts he's an unbelievable word as well,
So I think he will be able to and then
you know he gets he joins it. Just a fantastic
situation in Seattle where it's already a very good secondary
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and he's not going to be asked to plug a hole,
right like he can be used in the correct way.
With Mike McDonald, who's somebody I certainly trust when it
comes to the safety position.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, I mean, I gotta be honest with you. I
fancy myself a bit of a homer. I mean, there's
a difference between a homer and an apologist in my opinion, right, Like,
sometimes the homer in you gets a little bit aggressive,
and maybe you tend to be a little too critical
because you're a fan at a homer of the teams
that you cover. But I'm seeing Vegas putting the over
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under for the Seahawks that's seven and a.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Half wins, and that feels way too low for me.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
That feels like taking candy from a baby to play
the over. How about you?
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Is that the worst in the division?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It is ty maybe Tyler Arizona.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah, no, I would. I would take you over for sure.
And I'm you know, I'm someone we've been chatting now
for a bit. I've been pretty critical of some of
the off season decisions I've liked others. I like the
draft class, but I think something that maybe is getting
lost nationally. I don't know, Vegas. This is an ascended defense, right,
like you really saw things turn around the second half
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of the season. And even if the offense treads water,
which is kind of what I I don't foresee a
ton of offensive provement.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I love to be wrong, obviously as a.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Fan, I think the defense is good enough for them
to be regarded as better than that.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Personally, No, you're right.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Last half of the year they were bad, asked no question,
and they should be better now in year number two
under Mike McDonald. But me, the Times is with us
again right here on the radio show and me and
obviously the big story from a national perspective, felt like
and I don't know what it felt like in the
offices at ESPN on the set of the show that
you guys were working during the weekend in Green Bay,
but it really felt like the biggest talking point was
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Shador Sanders and what happened to him in the fall.
A lot of fighting, a lot of screaming, a lot
of yelling, a lot of arguing going on about what
happened to Shador.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
What was your takeaway from the weekend for him?
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Oh golly, I.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Mean, it's like so complicated, you know, because this story
gets so big that, like people who aren't even care
about the draft, you know, just kind of casual football fans,
we're asking, like what happened, right because people were talking
about this guy like he was the top quarterback and
suddenly he's on the fifth and it's more than just football,
but it's also football, right, Like, so I think what
(11:16):
I would say if I try to keep it somewhat
brief from a football perspective, Shador was not close to
cam word, and I think clearly teams saw him as
outside of a first round pick, maybe second third is
where I second, I thought from my personal and a vacuum.
But then when you take a quarterback, it's more than football.
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And I'm not talking about you know, narratives or perceptions.
There's the actual draft process and how players treat it.
And from all accounts, it sounds like the way he
and his team treated the draft process was not appreciated
but well, and so I think that's how you go
from falling maybe one or two rounds to falling all
the way to the.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Fifth Well, you know, and look, I mean, obviously there's
been arguments about that. You know, how he presented himself,
you know, stories about taking FaceTime calls and all that,
and having his headphones around his neck hearing music while
he's doing interviews, and then other people just say, well, yeah,
but the tape shows a much better quarterback than a
fifth round guy. So I guess that really is my
question to you. Did you see a first round quarterback
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on tape? Or was he drafted where he should have
been drafted when you watch the actual film on the guy.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I thought late first maybe early seconda that's how I
felt it.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
I think, you know, he definitely he didn't.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
He only has kind of average tools in terms of athleticism,
below average aleticism, and then arm strength is kind of.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Average, little bit below average.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
But he's accurate, he's tough, he's a playmaker, and you
know we've seen time and time again guys with that
set of tools. Teddy Bridgewater is a player who comes
to mind who he kind of hightened me up to
be honest, if you are scoring well. On the other
side of it, the intangibles and leadership and all that,
you'll still go decent recently high.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
So I think just purely from football standpoint.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
From my point of view, I saw him late first,
maybe early second, and I think a lot of folks agreed, honestly,
Like you know, talking to teams, I don't think anyone thinks, again,
if it was just purely football, this is a fifth
round quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Sure, how much chatter was there?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Mean, and I realized that I'm asking you to kind
of take us behind the scenes a little bit at
ESPN and feel free to share whatever you want or
you know, how much you're ever comfortable with. But man,
there was a lot of talk about mel Kiper's reaction
to Shador Sanders fallen, right, I mean that was Yeah,
that was almost a story in itself. So him and
Rehese Davis going at it. What did you make of that?
And how much conversation was there about that behind the scenes?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Well, not a lot on my end because I'm actually
no on TV during the draft, so we do NFL Live.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
We did it for two hours from Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
During the day and then we're done, which is great,
by the way, not working during the drafts, I just
get to watch it like y'all, like just watch it
on TV, and you know, like listen, I obviously you
just heard me talk about Shador.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
I disagree.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
This is mel came on our show all draft season
and him and I disagreed about Shador. He said, this
is the best quarterback in the draft. I said, I
don't think so, you know, like so I didn't agree
with him, and so his opinions definitely aren't aligned with mine.
But I do think, you know, the draft was unbelievably entertaining,
and the ratings reflect that. I think the Day three
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ratings were like the highest ever or something. So I
think just from the standpoint of people watching it, it
clearly was very entertaining to.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
A lot of people, There's no question, and I think
a lot of that is because of Shador Sanders.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I mean, you just mentioned the Day three ratings. I mean,
I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
We're on the golf course on Saturday morning, and we're
all watching our phones just to see where this kid
gets drafted, right, I mean some of them are waiting
to see how far he fell, Others hopeing he went
to maybe their favorite team.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
But there's no doubt that Shador Sanders brought some ratings
magic to the draft. On Saturday, Mina, I'm on the
front page of ESPN dot com and I cannot get
away from Bill Belichick and his girlfriend. I mean, it's
just ridiculous how big this story has become. Does this
interview with CBS where his girlfriend apparently cut it off
and said, we're not going to talk about how we met.
Now there's there's all these stories about her having an
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eight million dollar real estate fortune, you know, just weeks
after she met Bill. Bill's now on a tour defending her.
I mean, I'll just ask you the same question I
asked the guys yesterday.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Why should I care?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Why is a fan should I care about Bill Belichick
and his girlfriend?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I think it's like the perfect low stakes, drama, gossipy
type story, right, like on your face, who cares?
Speaker 5 (15:40):
I guess if you're a UNC football.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Fan, you might care, right So I, or you know,
anyone who's kind of thinking like about Bill and whether
he's gonna be successful in college. You look at this
and it does appear to be interfering with the program.
So I think it's like reasonable to look at it
from a college football standpoint, or if you're somebody who's
like interested in Bill Belichick, his legacy, how he's regarded whatnot.
As somebody who is not particularly invested in you know,
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those things. From the outside, it's just titillating. I think
it's just kind of like it has like a tabloidy
feel to it.
Speaker 8 (16:09):
Now.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I think you know, it's not something that merit's like
great handwright ringing or like moralizing from my standpoint to
be honest, but I do understand why people are interesting
intrigued by it because I'm.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I click on all those videos too, so you're not
watching them, so you know it is not my attention.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Do you think he's ever going to coach it down
again in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I god, I think we're seeing a little bit of
why he isn't in the NFL right now.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Is that fair to say?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I mean, I I don't know, you tell me. I mean,
is he just going.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Well just in terms of like I don't know, maybe like.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Not being as I don't want to say sharp, but
like in control as he was during his time in
New England.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
I think that's got to be It's hard not to
look at this and Field that way.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, I mean, do you believe that? Again?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Like, if you're I just asked you, why should I care?
And I guess if I'm a North Carolina fan, should
I be concerned that maybe his girlfriend has more authority
over the football team than we think he does.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I would be more concerned about whether's the perception of
the football team in the program is affected by it
and has appeal to players, right, because perception matters so much.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
In college football.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
It's not like like if this is the NFL, it
we'd be like, oh yeah, right, guys aren't going to
sign with the Patriots, like you know, it's just then,
But college football, you know, perception matters, image matters, money matters.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
So I think that would be my takeaway. It's like,
m like, what is this doing for our program?
Speaker 9 (17:48):
Right?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
No doubt?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
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Speaker 3 (18:37):
You know, Jack So, one of my favorite things to
do here in Washington, has come over and talked to
Pat Shun because Pat Shun is not like other ads.
A lot of other ads that I've spoken to. We'll
talk before we go on the air, and there's always
one question I get from that man or woman before
they come on the air, and hey, what do you
want to talk about?
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I don't get that ever from.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Noel, like either A you don't give a damn right,
which is certainly possible, or be I can just spring
you whatever I want to spring you with, and you'll
answer as honest as you can.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Well, I'll be honest. I'm only here because of Jument.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Oh really, Okay, gotcha gotcha.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Oh, it's good to see cats and dogs long it is.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Well, she loves this place.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
She she told me she wanted to come see you
with a real college football stadium look like, so instead
of the high school stadium she sees six times a
year in Pullman. But it's good to see a patch
on the eighty at Washington this year and second year
in a row, now that we've done this dogs after
dark thing on Friday, which selfishly I love because it
opens up to Saturday.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
By the way, So I'm.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Working anyway, miss on a Friday.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
H trust me, that's gonna start in about five minutes
as you're done, so, uh, talk.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
To me about this. I'm trying to remember were you
here last year for this thing?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
You were, so your thoughts on this idea, what we
learned about, what makes it tick differences from a year
ago to today. Uh, because this will be an annual thing.
This is not going away right Yeah, well.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
One, I think it's just trying to market the team
a little bit differently. At the end of the day,
I mean, this is a practice. It's the last practice
of the spring. Who knows what springball is going to
look like in college football next year anyways, with the
way we're headed. But I think it's just also, you know,
we've got we got I think we're gonna get lucky
with weather tonight. I think we have fifty thousand tickets out.
You know, if we get a fifty percent show rate,
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that'd be incredible. I think what everyone here will see
is a very how much we've changed over a year.
I think most specifically on the offense, on the line
of scrimmage. The Big Ten. You know that, you you know,
the Big Ten is a line of scrimmage league. You
have to win the line of scrimmage. And it's been
pretty it's been pretty fun. I mean I've told a
lot of people, you know, the past thirteen months, I've
watched coach fish poor concrete into this football program, and
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really the foundation has to be the line of scrimmage.
And I think, if anything, the fun part is it's
kind of a year marker of where we're at. And
you know, we'll have you know, we'll have a really
good we'll have you know, we'll have a good crowd tonight.
I think we have more recruits, more, more higher rated
recruits here today. The talent on the field's different. You
don't have to ask her. A number one quarterback is
(21:02):
he may not take a snap either, Oh yeah, but yeah,
but you're it's gonna be important to see you the
number two qua wow. Yeah. So so if he takes
a snap, I probably ain't. No one's gonna touch him, right, yeah. So,
but I think it just shows, Hey, we're growing and
at the end of the day, you know, these are
all little markers of uh, you know, we gotta be
a program that's constantly improving, and this is just a
nice marker year over year how much we've improved.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Well, I thought the crowd last year was great, right,
I mean looking to improve, but comparatively speaking.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Before Chris Pearson told me last year, if you get
one person over ten thousand, sh be.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Doing, no question about that. But here's the thing. You
need a coach to embrace it. And I was talking
to Tony about this just a few hours ago, Pat
that nobody's embraced this the way Jed has. Yeah, I
mean he's embraced everything with the program. I've often wondered,
does he have his hand in too much? To be
honest with you, what do you think about that? From
an AD's perspective, because Jed's talked about the training table,
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He's talked about the TV broadcast, he's talked about the
spring game, he's talked about tickets, he's talked about sale gating.
I've never heard of coach talk more about everything happening
with the program more so than Jed Fish And I
almost wonder when I showed up, is he worried about
too much stuff?
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Well, unfortunately, I've been around coaches that have won national
championships in their career and they are very meticulous and
very invested right and and and have opinions on a
lot of things. So it is not it is not
abnormal for me personally good to have a coach that
that wants to understand everything in and around the program,
which is Alfie. Now, at the end of the day,
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it's recruiting and x's and o's that matter. Uh, he
gets at and and he's you know, he's he's you know,
laser focused on recruiting. You know, I think the changes
we've made with the staff this last year, just because
we've had to bring in some new people, I think
everyone's going to be happy with what they see. So,
you know, it's it's he's a coach that he's fully
invested in, and i'd probably you know, for those who
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are listening, you know, it's it's kind of indicative of Hey,
he's he's trying to build a program that's stir because
he wants to be here a long time.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah, no doubt. Well one of the curve balls. I
was going to ask you, by the way, and this
is the fun part of your job. You'll get to
come on shows like this and get challenged, right, I.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Mean I'll take fastballs.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, I'll give you a few easy ones, you know,
right down the middle. But you just mentioned that, you know,
he wants to be here a long time. We've seen
coaches we're literally a year into their contract. There's already
conversations about extension.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Has any of that talk even begun with Jed and
his represent.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Me personally, I keep those conversations.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Oh come on, it's just between us.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
So all those all those conversations anything with contracts, Yeah,
that'll always be between me and the head coaches.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Okay, okay, regardless of the sports. So we're learning stuff
about you on the fly years. So no more contract
questions or we can ask you, but you won't answer.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
That's what you're doing.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
I'll dance around the curve back.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I got you, I got you. Well, I'm looking at
a story here that came out yesterday. It says Texas
is going to spend you saw this, right between thirty
five and forty million dollars on its football team in
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Where are we compared to them?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Well, we're going to be at the max of revshare,
So that's twenty point five of it, and then whatever
we're at on top of on top of what this
roster is at. So I would probably say, I mean,
the reality is, I don't know what retention looks like
when the picture you have on there is the most
recognizable person in college.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Football right now in terms of.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
So every every place a little bit different. But we're
we're at max with we'll be at max with with revshare.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
You know in this new environment that we're hopefully going
to be in if if Judge Wilkin approves the settlement,
we believe we're gonna be at we have it. We
will have a competitive advantage because of Seattle. We've we've
created our own marketing agency internally, Dogs Unleashed. We've been
talking with businesses. I mean, obviously, the portfolio of businesses
in this community is unlike any other in the book
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Big ten. I mean this is different than LA one
because we have such a huge piece of the market here.
And two, I mean two of the most five two
of the five most profitable companies in the world older
here in Amazon and Microsoft. And we already talked about everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Else and iHeartMedia by that, and I heeart media.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
So we have there's a there's a there's a yeah,
there's a lot of opportunity. But me personally, just so
you know, I do not compare us to others.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
I thought my focus is Washington being the best Washington
is supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I I don't know Pat, And again Pat Chunn is
with us. If the average fan like these two knuckleheads
sitting over here by the way, really no, no, I
pointed this way, My god, I would never ever do that.
I know who you run with. I don't want to
mingle and anger those types of people. But the the
twenty point five million, the rev shure that you're talking about,
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that is total dollars spent on all sports sports, yess,
So how much of that's going to the football team.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
So we we will give the I guess our formula. Obviously,
football is the reason why all this revenue is here, right,
So our primary stablements are going to be football, men's basketball,
women's basketball, volleyball, and softball. But I mean, obviously a
line share that is going to go to the football party.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Sure, got you so.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
And it's just it's it's a byproduct of a bunch
of bunch of reasons. One, it's it's the league that
we're in. I mean, this is a football league, uh,
and for us, and we're in this and and Washington
is in the Big Ten because of our football program, right,
so they go hand in hand. I mean, we had
a bunch of our alums here last night and it
reminded him. You know, this is seven hundred and eighty wins,
what forty three bowl games, eighteen conference championships, two national championships,
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like that's some that is significant history with this program,
and our duty is to add to that. And without
that history, we would not be in the Big ten.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
It's actually three if you include the eighty four Chicago
Tribune poll.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
By the way, but.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
We're the type of school we don't have to we
have an option of acknowledging.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Okay, some peoples don't have that.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
Some schools don't have that option of acknowledge.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Hey, I tell you just to not I mean, doesn't
Alabama have like fifteen unrecognized titles that they claim or whatever?
But patchung with us again, you'd have ada. I'm just
wondering about the negotiations that go on and how and
maybe take us behind the scenes a bit if you
can souation with a kid.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
From Tennessee that went to UCLA.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, clearly wasn't happy, wanted tonegotiate his deal.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
How concerned should I be?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
As Dave the dog fan, that's something like that could
happen here during spring football during the season, where a
player would go to jeded and say, hey, I'm outperforming
my deal, I want more or I'm going to walk.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Well, it's indicative of the environment we're in. Hopefully in
this next phase we have meaningful contracts. There's a lot
that has to happen college football to get there good.
Our revenue share year will be July one to June thirtieth.
That has to the football calendar has to reflect that.
So and the best example of what has to change
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is the portal they just don't work anymore. But there's
a lot that's that's baked into that. So it's it's
you know, we're an industry that for since the beginning
of a time, or since the beginning of agents being
a part of it. They they understand what the opportunities are. Clearly,
the young man felt like he wanted needed more money.
(28:01):
That took him to UCLA. We'll see how it ends
up for him. But you know, it's it's it's it's
a it's a it's a sad example of what college
football is supposed to be. Yeah, I mean it's like
it's it's fun being around all these alums the last
couple of days because you know, it's it's different. I mean,
college football is different. We get it now. The world's change.
It is nego. Like the dollars do matter, with the revenue,
(28:24):
sharing with athletes does matter. But the hope is we
buying people, you know, hopefully the experience there's a there.
We can time with emotion, like, we can time with
connectivity like they like hopefully in this time, like we
can connect them with their teammates, connect them with friends
on campus, connect them with the professors connected with this
UDUB experience because there's still you know, we believe there's
(28:45):
immeasurable value in this UDUB experience. But that's a tough
situation and you don't wish ill on anybody. But you know,
Tennessee lost in that, and the young man lost.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
That, right, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Well Pat young with us, And again, I mean you
mentioned meetingful contracts, like, yeah, we're talking multi year deals,
like a kid could agree to a four year deal
a three years good.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Yeah, I mean we'll see what the market. You know,
it's going to be market driven to a certain degree,
but sure, you know. And probably the best example of
you know, of Jed building for the for a long
future here is we're focused on high school recruiting. Like
if he was burning through a bunch of fifty fourth
and fifty year guys right now, I'd probably be worried
that he's got a short term plan. But he's doing it.
(29:24):
But you know he's he's doing it by doing because
he knows he has to attract and retain and develop
young people from the high school ranks. So and so
part of it is you talk about where the future is.
You know, part of is identifying the right guys, right.
You know, it's like, you know, John Mills is here.
A lot of schools wanted him. Uh, he's got He's
a generational husky. And I'm not saying that doesn't guarantee
(29:46):
anything right away, but it is very very personal to
to John Mills and his family for him to be
at Washington.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
So this spring game thing that we're doing, there's dogs
after dark. A lot of teams aren't doing this. Yeah,
they've canceled spring games. Yeah, Texas is one of them,
by the way. Yeah, I mean that's amazing. That's Texas, right,
one of the blue bloods of college football, winning his
programs in college football history, has said we're done with
the spring game.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Can you ever imagine that happening here?
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Yeah? I could see that happening. Yeah. I think the
whole calendar is going to change that. That's my opinion
with these with these new contracts and what what happens
to spring football in general, I think is going to
be impacted by got.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
You, got you, By the way, Just for the record,
just so we know moving forward, you and me, I
was not referring to your wife as a knucklehead, but
if I did refer to your wife as a knucklehead?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
What's what's the reaction there for me?
Speaker 6 (30:35):
I would get punched if you refer to her by
her by her.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
And then I would get punched by you. And nobody
wants to get punched by anybody.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Funny thing is she actually is laughing.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I would never do that, Hey, and I I hope
that you never give me a reason to call you
a knucklehead.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
That'd be awest and if you do, we'll be friends
that night.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
But good stuff, have fun appreciated by dogs.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
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Speaker 3 (31:26):
Jackson, One of my all time favorite Huskies is sitting
right in front of me right now, a guy named
Tommy Smith who played safety back here on the ninety
one team, and he sounds nothing like he played back.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
In the day. By the way, it's unbelievable. And we've
heard in which joins of Tommy Smith.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Tommy Smith was the kind of guy that would tuck
his jersey up underneath his pads, show off his six pack,
and he was badass back in the day. I mean
him and Pallacoa and Dana and Walter Bailey and all
those guys were just unbelievable. So you put if you
put Tommy on the air, which I don't know where
he went, but he would just look at it say hi.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
I'm Timrection doesn't sound anything like he played back in
the day. So hey, how about how about Pat Chung
when he was on with the air with us kind
of insinuating I guess we're gonna find out soon that
we may not see a lot of number two tonight.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 8 (32:14):
I think he kind of kind of clearly let the
cat out of the bag right there, and he may have.
I guess I would just ask why, like and I'm
this is it's bigger than a practice. This is way
more than a practice. But at the same time, like
you got I don't know how many tens of thousands
of fans. He got out there like this, we got
Heisman hype for this kid. Let him show off to
the fans a little bit, like yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Hope we see him. I mean, like maybe he's dealing
with something.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I don't know, but I mean, we're looking for you know,
the red jerseys, the gold jerseys, looking to see number
two out there. I'm I'm I'm in the all the
way in the east end zone. I can't see anything,
by the way, because all the guys are on the.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Opposite side of the field.
Speaker 9 (32:52):
Man.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
So it's like it's like looking through a forest to
find a treat for crying out loud. So we're gonna
see if we see number two out there before everything
gets going. But I look, I mean, I agree with you,
you know, throw him out there, let him have a
couple of reps, whatever, give the fans what they want.
He clearly is the number one focus on this football
team right now, when nobody's done a better job of
hyping him up or more responsible excuse me for hyping
(33:13):
him up than Jed. I mean, heck, the guy last
year was talking about, you know him be in the
face of the program.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
And going to New York City one day.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
And I could never imagine Don James or even Jim Lambright,
or hell even Chris Peterson talking like that for crying
out loud. But I do see a Number two out
there right now going through warm ups, so he does.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Have his full uniform on.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
So we'll see if he does get out there tonight
and play a little bit. But you know, I mean,
how much can we take from a game like this tonight?
Probably not a lot. I mean, my god, they're playing
at seventy five percent. Nobody's getting blown up, right, There's
obviously a lot.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
They're not gonna show.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
There's gonna be some spies in the crowd. There's gonna
be people watching a big ten network to see what
these guys are all about.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
This is a practice and it's a show for the crowd.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
There's there's literally I don't think anything that you can
take from a game like this tonight. Now, maybe Millen
will sit here and pull something from this game, but
I'm not looking to All I'm looking to do is
have fun and make sure nobody gets hurt.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
That is the number one priority tonight.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Make sure nobody gets hurt, and let's get home and
let's get safe in time for fall camp in August.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
It's for the fans.
Speaker 8 (34:17):
You're right, and that's why it would surprise me so
much because of what Jed's done regarding Demon Williams to
not play him. So the fact that he is out there,
like you, I get it. You you don't want to
risk any injury. But like when we're building hype around
the program and when we want people to also come
out to we want these Spring Games to be a
big deal.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
We want people to come out there every.
Speaker 8 (34:38):
Single year of these especially when you got what it
was like, sixty five degrees, beautiful, beautiful, Mike Gosh ask for.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Better weather for the spring.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
You want people out there and you want to be
able to show off your you know the potential of
Heisman Demon Williams, so you got to play him as
much as you can.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Well, I think that there's a chance to at least
just see some new face in person for the first time.
Amari Evans obviously the transfer wide receiver from Penn State.
You know, Gary and Hatchett back after spending a year
at Oklahoma. He was hurt, but he was there. And
then Carver Willis number fifty, who's the new left tackle
for these guys?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
The transfer from Kansas State.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
But you know, like Amar Evans, right, I mean, he
goes to Penn State, puts up okay numbers. But obviously
the majority of their passes were getting thrown to a
guy named Tyler Warren a year ago, so he's probably
gonna get more of a target situation here that is
maybe more to his liking. And then you know, look,
we're gonna see Quintin Moore. I don't think we'll see
him tonight obviously, but that old thing drove me frickin' nuts,
(35:37):
by the way, the Quinton Moore thing, because here you
have a guy that comes off the sideline for Weaber State,
takes him up by his knee, blows his knee out,
he misses an entire year and never gets an apology.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I mean, I was asking Jed Fisher about that.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Did they ever call you and say, hey, man, we're
sorry we ruined the guy's season for you?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
And they never did? I mean, like, is nobody pissed
about that?
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I mean, I realized the guy got the year back,
but still at the age at twenty two years old,
and you never know how he's gonna respond to the injury,
By the way, will he be the same player? Will
he deal with side effects? Will he lose speed? Will
he lose quickness? I mean that whole thing. Man, If
I could do stronger language on the air right now,
I could just absolute chicken crap what he had to
(36:17):
go through. All Right, we're gonna get to a break.
Tony and Cam will take over from the booth at
the top of the hour. I'm gonna go grab the
sideline gear head down the sideline. But the annual Dog
after Dark Spring game, Tony and Cam have it for
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