May 21, 2025 • 28 mins
In the second hour, Dick Fain chats with Petros Papadakis about the Dodgers and their fanbase, the Mariners success so far in 2025, the tush push, and flag football coming to the Olympics, then Hugh Millen rejoins to discuss the NFL voting to keep the tush push.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for our weekly conversation with college football analyst
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(01:15):
I hope everything's going well. I'm here at Dodgers Stadium,
get ready for a Dodgers Diamondbacks game. We have a
show we're putting together here. We do about and I
don't know, maybe eight or nine a year, and that's
what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Are you ready for the Big Dodgers against the Los
Maraneros World Series in October? You're ready for that?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I was not aware that it would go right on
the schedule, but I am happy that the Mariners are
in first place here in May and gives everybody something
to talk about and something to enjoy. The Dodgers over
the years that they've been owned by this Guggenheim group,
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and we've had him on the station, and it's pretty crazy.
They have been so competitive that it's almost kind of
more fun when they lose. Like last weekend they got
swept by the Angels, right, which is you know, like
having your little brother come and kick your ass. It's
like Eastern Washington beating the Huskies.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Right something, which is almost.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Or Portland State, you know, coming and beating Gonzaga and
basketball or something. And that that happened over the weekend
and then the chef's kiss was Otani struck out to
lose the last game on Sunday night. And I mean, honestly,
that kind of stuff to get the fans a little
bit angry and get people riled up is sort of
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what we need, to be honest, because they win so
much and they have such a great record all the time.
I mean, there's still a top the division despite getting
swept over the weekend that it gets a little boring.
So we did a little We needed tahem spice for
Armichelada down here because the team's too good. How do
you like that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
And that's you know, they're not going to get to
the one sixteen Mariners, I don't think, but they but
they may get close, there's no question about it. But
you know, I think a lot of people just see
La because because the NBA, you see the NBA playoffs
and Lebron the finals and everything, and they think La
is a Laker town. But yeah, it's a Laker town,
But would you say it's a Dodgertown first, Lakertown second
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and USC football third? Is that kind of the hierarchy
and then fourth place is like a mile behind them.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I hate to say this, but USC football is dead.
College football in town has has kind of died. Now.
If USC football wins eleven games and has a great season,
which they're not going to, then everybody kind of opens up,
you know, because the judges, the lawyers, the politicians, the actors,
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the producers, all the rich people are USC people, but
they only care if USC is having success. So that
is kind of an interesting thing. USC the season looks
like six and six is kind of a sleeping giant,
so to speak, So that is kind of interesting. But
this is a Dodger town. First. I think it kind
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of always has been, despite Kobe and Shaq and Showtime
was a whole thing. But the NBA has kind of
priced out your average everyday fan here in the city
of Los Angeles. Which is not to say that a
beer is in twenty bucks near a Dodger stadium and
an Otani jersey is in three hundred and fifty. But
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you have to give the Dodgers credit. They are the
most visited sport on Earth, and it's been that way
for a long time because the stadium is so big,
and because they have so many games, and because of
the greatness the just absolute, unparallel greatness of the Latino
fan base LA, which makes it pretty special. So all
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that being said, yeah, they're number one, and then the
Lakers they're number two, and then beyond that, I'd say, gosh,
I'd have to bite my tongue to say it, but
probably the Rams, you know, uh, and then maybe the Clippers,
and then maybe the Chargers and then SC and UCLA football.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I mean, if USC football and not far wow.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Well, I mean, think about it, Dick, For God's sake,
The buzz about USC football in this coming season this
is I'm serious. Like, the buzz for the Dogs right
now is what they got a good young quarterback and
they're excited about that, and this guy's gonna call plays
and maybe they win eight games whatever, but at least
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that's something. The buzz about USC football right now is
that they hired a new GM and he is securing
great verbal comitments for a freshman class in twenty twenty six. Reber,
this is USC football we're talking about. I mean, what
the hell is that?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
You know, a GM that's getting commitments for a year
from a season from now with a bunch of guys
who probably won't even be there that are going to
be freshmen anyway if they are, and they're not going
to be some group that's nurtured and grown organically like
Harmon did with the Michigan team or anything like that.
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So yeah, USC football, I mean, what the offseason talk
is a GM for twenty twenty six and Lincoln Riley
in a cowardly way trying to politically wriggle out of
the Notre Dame game, which I'm sorry is not going
to happen right.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Right, Well, Petros I just about the Mariners and the
Dodgers in the World Series.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
But let me just share this anecdote with you.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Here is how delusional Softie and I were at about
this time last year, maybe eight later. I remember vividly
being in richmore Purple sheet Rischmore's office with Softy, the
three of us, and we were looking at the schedule
and we were like, oh my god, do you realize
that the Huskies play USC on the day that there
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will be a World Series game in LA against the Mariners.
And we were like planning our schedule around going to
the day USC Washington game and then driving from the
Coliseum to Dodger Stadium to watch the Mariners because at
the time, the Mariners were ten games up in the
Al West and not only did they not make the
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World Series Petros, they didn't even make the playoffs. So,
you know, I just about Los Marineros making the World
Series because who knows, twenty twenty five could be exactly
like last year and we could be sitting at home
in October.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, you guys were two thirds of the way right.
You know, there was an SC game that night, and
there was a World Series game.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Just got the raw American League team.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah it was the Yankees, which is a you know,
a whole other thing, but it is it is kind
of interesting to sort of ride this wave every year
with this baseball team and to see how they do it.
I mean, the team was all built up like a big,
beautiful taj Mahal the Dodgers were when the season started,
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and now they're not even recognizable. They've had so many injuries.
But they have their three guys, you know, Tani Freendy
Freeman and Mookie Betts right now healthy at the top
of the lineup. But it is it is interesting because
they always seem to make the playoffs and get there,
whether it works out or not. At the end of
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the year, they're always around ninety or one hundred wins,
and I think people around here are starting to take
that for granted. Dick, I got to be on it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
No, it happened, happens in every sport. We saw that.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
We saw that vividly with the Seahawks in the middle
of the last decade, no question about it. Sweet James
brings you the Petros Popadeka Show and we basis on
Wednesdays at four o'clock. So are you ready for another
season of having your tush pushed? Petros? What do you
think about the ruling today in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You know, I thought it was really interesting that they
ever thought of getting rid of it. You know, I
remember that there was a very loose I mean, it
was a rule on the books for football in general
when I was younger that you know. That's why the
bush push was supposed to be outlawed, right or supposed
to be flagged in the moment, way back in two
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thousand and five, which is where we get the name
from the bush push, the tush push. I mean, really,
it's just an old wing tee football play and it
kind of reminds you that in a lot of football
most there are very few things and we point to
them and we laun them and we talk about them,
like the run and shoot or the air raid, or
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when somebody invented, you know, the flanker. You know that.
But but a lot of stuff that happens in football is
just the old becoming new again. You know. For instance,
we all remember when Jim Harbaugh brought the power back.
The power not just like the word power, but the
actual play power with the pulling guard and to kick
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out and the fullback leading through, and it became a
viable play again through Stanford football and Jim Harbaugh. It's
not like no one knew how to run power. Everybody
knew how to do it, but he brought it back
and made it a weapon again. The wildcat, you know,
that's nothing but a single wing offense with an extra
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you know, with a running quarterback and an extra blocker.
That's that's all that was. It took a quick second
for the NFL defensive coordinators to catch up to it,
but you know, that wasn't new, but it was something
to talk about. And I think it's the same with
the with the tush push. It's it's just really well
executed by that team. But I I don't know if
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he delivered his point while talking about wet dreams, but
that Eagle owner Guy Lourie, he made a good He
made a good point. I mean, to be so good
at executing a legal play that they want to outlaw
it is says a lot about what the Eagles have
accomplished here. I don't think being able to run that
play makes you invincible. If it was the case, Air
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Force would be undefeated every year because good luck stopping
them on fourth and one. I don't care who you are. Uh,
that's just what they're going to do. And they can
do it, and they drill it, you know, from February.
It's like Concord Daala Sal when they won eight hundred
games the high school team way back in advance. I
think they they lost. Their undefeated streak was broken in Bellevue.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yes, Bellevue. I was at the game, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, I was. I called my very first national game
on Fox for Next Day Washington Fresno State, which was interesting.
But I remember that, yes, But overall, yeah, I don't have.
I mean, I haven't really talked about it much on
the air other than just you know, passing through the
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headlines and chef. But I like the fact that they're
leaving the play intact and I think everybody should learn
how to run it, and everybody should learn how to
stop it, and we can go from there. A big
part of being great in football is being able to
have short yardage and success in short yardage, and that
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gets forgotten by a lot of people, especially in the
worlds of the Lane Kiffins and Steve Sarkisians and Lincoln
Riley's and master play callers, that we lawd and grease
up all the time, and maybe we shouldn't as much
if they can't go get one yard on third and
one like the Eagles have proven to do. I mean,
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Hurts is not He is not a comparable passer to
a lot of really, uh just normal quarterbacks from the NFL.
So what is it about him? And how have they
been able to master this? Uh? You got to give
him credit. And I love also the fact that the
Eagles have brought back the Bell cow running back, you know,
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into the pantheon of the NFL. I mean, when I
was a kid in the eighties, if you were, we
cared more about who the starting running back was whether
it was Walter Payton or Christian Okoye or Roger Craig
or you know any of these guys. O J Anderson.
I mean we cared about that. Yeah, that those guys
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were as big of a deal as the quarterback and
Barry Sanders. I mean, they were just as exciting. So
so I am fully in with the tush push. I
don't like the name.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
You don't like the name, all right, well we can uh,
you know, we can call it whatever they call in Philadelphia.
It's not the Philly Special, It's it's it's something else.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
But he told.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Me that the tush push has had a big effect
on Hurtz though. It's like physically his tush now has
a big crack in it.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Is that right? Yeah? I love that. That's very good.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Well, are you going to start the other big story
in the in the NFL? Are you gonna dust off
your old flag football flags and practice some flag poland
so you can turn out for Team USA?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
So I could pull both Hammies and my blue my Achilles. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know. I mean, if the
NFLPA says it's okay, that's one thing. But to get
individual permission from your team is another one. I mean,
I doubt people are going to be very comfortable with
guys out there firing their legs against a flag football
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team from Senegal or something. But for me, I like,
I've never been a fan of flag football or seven
on seven or anything like that as it relates to
real football, right, Like, there's real football, like we were
just talking about, and then there's seven on seven leagues
and flag football and all the stuff we do in
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the offseason for quarterbacks and wide receivers to be able
to stretch together. And that's fine, and that's all necessary.
It's part of the football calendar. But it's not real football.
And there's a whole like subset of people, like the
same type of weirdos that are into frisbee golf and
stuff like that. There's a whole, there's a whole. There's
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a whole group of people that are dedicated to flag football,
right and they do it and it's their little niche
sport like snooker or something, and you know, let them play.
You know, I don't want to watch Tyreek Hill out
there running routes. I really don't, you know, I mean,
it's stupid. To have flag football? Is this a sport
that's globally practiced?
Speaker 4 (15:51):
You know, not that I know who's going to play
against Team US.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Ever since I watched the Chick from Australia Breakdance, I'm
you know, like, can we just throw the javelin? You know?
Can we just do what they used to do in
ancient Greece Take all your clothes off, grease up, put
the fig leaf over your crotch, and get out there
and perform wrestle with another man and compete. Run run
the race, you know, to add all these weird I mean,
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what are we going to do? Add the hack stats?
To go down to bet Beach? Sure, see how many
times a guy can SMI mack it on his knee
and do the freaking paws on the back of his neck.
I mean, that's more relevant in California than flag football,
for God's sake. But uh, I mean, I guess I'd
be interested just to see what it looks like. But
I mean, there's real football and then there's flag football,
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and I don't think that line should be crossed by professionals.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Petros always a pleasure, love your opinions. We will talk
to you next week. As our buddies still in Greece
next week.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
So yeah. He asked me about the tipping culture in
Greece and I told him, you know, it's not expect
but they appreciate it. And he wrote back, I want
to sit in.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I want to fit in. Okay, let's where does he
Where does he ever fit in? Let's be honest.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Well, you know people are going to think he's got
a swarthy look with a giant nose, so people are
going to think he's Creek.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Gotcha, He'll fit right in with the locals. Love you, man.
We'll talk to you next, talk to you next week.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Love you Dick. I have a great one, all right.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Mat Petrous Popindakis. Back to Hubreed Love Millan. We have
textimonials at four nine, four five one coming up at
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just ride in the fence right now. We'll talk about
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Speaker 4 (18:01):
Hell Jackson, the Seahawks have released their pre season schedule. Yeah,
pardon me while I fall.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Asleep for a second.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Hey, we open up against Pete Carroll and the Las
Vegas Raiders. You know, he let the cat out of
the bag on an interview last week about that. But
Pete Carroll will bring you his Raiders into town. So
we get to see gin Know Smith against the Seahawks. No,
probably not. And then the week after on a Friday,
August fifteenth, Hey, the Kansas City Chiefs are coming to town,
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so we'll get to see Patrick Mahomes. No, we want
August to twenty third. They'll go to Green Bay, so
we'll get to see Jordan Love again.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
No, we want. So there's the Seahawks schedule.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Vegas on a Thursday at home, Chiefs on a Friday
at home, Packers on a Saturday on the road.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Get your tickets now, I guess if you want to.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
It's funny.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I know you do these as well.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
But we go on the Fox thirteen Washington Sports rap
show this week Monday, the question was fair foul? The
Seahawks will win two of their three preseason games, and
I'm like, fairy, how about it.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I don't care one way.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
These are backups versus Okay, listen, you could give me
one hundred dollars to name a backup second string player
on the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I would not make that one hundred dollars. That's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Well, Hugh's back with us, and you know you we
were talking earlier in the show about the Tush push
and you were having a nice back and forth. I
thought with Florida, I think good perspectives on both sides,
and I hate to be the fence rider on this,
but you know, sometimes there's going to be sports topics
that you're just not passionate about on one side or
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the other. Because I do see both your argument and
Florida's argument. Your argument that is not a football play.
It is a play from a different sport that largely
is played not even in this country. I do know
that there's rugby here, but it comes from elsewhere, and
I totally agree with that. I don't like watching it.
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It frustrated me when I watched the Washington Commanders like
purposely go off sides five times in a row in
the NFC Championship game that took like three minutes. I mean,
it was just it was a mockery that three minutes
made a mockery of the NFC Championship game. In my opinion,
I think you agree with that. But I can also
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see florio sides, like when thirteen of the fourteen teams
that are playing the defending Super Bowl champions are voting
against the play. Are they really voting against the play
because they don't think the play should be in football?
Or are they just voting for it because well, yeah,
it's gonna give us a competitive advantage if we don't
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have to practice against the toushbush.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
So that was a little that was a little for
me for for for me to read that.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
But bottom line is, if I were to choose keep
it in or take it out based upon your logic,
I would agree with you.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I would choose to take it out. But it's not
something I'm gonna die on.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
A hill on.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, I mean I understand.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
I think that there are some topics where you can
look and you can assess the arguments for and against
and and you could say, hey, on this topic, there's
really compelling points on both sides. You know, it could
It doesn't have to be sports. You might you might
feel the death penalty you know has uh, it could
be in anything. I don't think that we're compelled to
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on every issue, right if there's a linear scale to
be always at one extreme or the other, sometimes we're
relatively close to the minimal.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
It seems like talk radio goes to that sometimes, particularly
national talk radio, like you know, Steven A or whatever's
got I gotta have a take on everything, and I
got to be so far onto one side or so
far on the other.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
For me, it's like there's a there's a happy medium.
On some of these tips, I think you lose your credibility.
I think it's sensible to say, look, on this topic,
I'm really torn. And that's a take in and of itself,
because that take you saying there's really good points on
both sides. Now, I'm not in the middle on this.
I am of the belief that can we I'll walk
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you just kind of through some of my thoughts on this.
Can we agree that football is more popular than rugby?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (22:27):
In America? Yes? By what factor?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Approximately five thousand to one?
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Okay, so five thousand to one, So Is it fair,
reasonable and appropriate that football would have rules that would
distinguish it from rugby? Yes, and to make it more exciting.
Nothing dissimilar to rules that are in other sports. And
the two I just thought of that popped into my head.
One the shift in baseball.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Now, yeah, you could have beaten the shift if anybody
was capable of hitting the ball the other way, which
they're not, so they took it out because it was
bad for baseball.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
The defensive three second violation.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
We don't want, you know, teams having three seven footers
in the NBA just standing two on the block and
one in the middle of the paint and protecting.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Because it's bad for basketball if.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
You can't attack the paint. I don't see anything dissimilar
to this. It's just trying to make the game more
fun to watch.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
So but this is this is the distinction here, though,
is this is not a new rule that is being
proposed in twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five. This
is just reverting to a rule that was identified. Assisting
the runner was deemed a penalty back in nineteen ten.
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Now that was college football. We didn't have the NFL
in nineteen ten. The NFL came into existence in nineteen twenty,
and from its inception, it adopted the assisting the runner.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
For five years, yes, eighty five.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Five years and if you want to count the college
for ninety five years, right, Okay, So this is a
rule designed to distinguish football from rugby, among other things. Right,
So if you look at at football, Uh, there's black
and white videos that you can see. I think it
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might have been Princeton Harvard, I think is what it was,
you know, like like at the onset of video, and
it looked like a scrum every damn down, a toot
push every down and so and.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
The final scores were six to three.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
Yes, and like just a yawn. And so if it's
if it's fair reasonable appropriate for football to have rules
that distinguish it from a less attractive game, right, and
doing things like adding the forward pass right to make
it a more attractive game. Okay, That benefits fans, That
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benefits the money making enterprise that the owners and and
and everybody else were financially. Uh benefit benefits from the
layers because the players are going to get paid more money.
Because the only point, yes, my point, My point is
that it is a it is essentially a rugby play
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that was, in the infinite wisdom from going back to
the turn of the previous century, was deemed to be
not the way that that we wanted football to operate,
And as recently as two thousand and four it was impermissible,
and and and and I would just say, I think
it's a I think it's a distraction for me. It's
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a distraction to say, oh, well, the Eagles are good
at it, so let's just uh uh, so this looks
like bad optics or sour grapes or some what call
whatever you want, that we're gonna outlaw the Eagles. No,
my point would be, let's suppose everybody was really good
at fourth and one when you got the fourth and one,
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that every team just just just a thought experiment. Okay,
imagine that all teams are exactly equal with the Eagles
at at the fourth and onst.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Pl fourth and one would no longer be an exciting
play to watch.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Well, yes, I would still I would still look at
that and say that that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
That's not a football play. So that is a rugby play.
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Now, thirteen to fourteen teams that played the Eagles this
year voted against it.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I would assume those teams aren't gonna.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Flip flop next year when the vote comes over, because
that would just look bad. They're like, well, why'd you
vote for the Eagles that they're not gonna they're they're
gonna keep.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
I'll make you bet right now, not one team that
clips that voted against No, they'll be they'll they'll be
teams I predict at some point. I mean, right now,
you have sixty percent of the owners, well more.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Twenty two, yeah, more than twenty two, thirty thirty.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
Two of thirty two, so more than two thirds of
the owners are against it now. I don't believe there
will be one owner that is against it today that
will be for it.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I agree, I agree. So here's my point. Here's my point.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
There's gonna be new teams that play the Eagles next year,
and maybe they voted for it, voted for a passing
this year, but they won't voted for it next year.
So I predict that you're gonna get those two votes
next year. You're gonna be over twenty four and it's
gonna be done for good, don't you think?
Speaker 7 (27:38):
I hope? So, I mean look, I would have thought
I would have never thought that we get this far.
I think it's an absurd play. I don't think it
showcases the skills of football players. I think there's a
reason why football is much You know, the Seattle Sea
Wolves not trying to bang on unrugged fans or the
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good people that are running.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
The Sea Wolves.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
Every sport, they get about eighteen hundred to twenty five
hundred people watch their games. Rugby has been objectively determined
to be a far inferior sport as an entertainment product
than football, and so now we are permitting a rugby
play that was impermissible for ninety five years in football
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(01:15):
I hope everything's going well. I'm here at Dodgers Stadium,
get ready for a Dodgers Diamondbacks game. We have a
show we're putting together here. We do about and I
don't know, maybe eight or nine a year, and that's
what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Are you ready for the Big Dodgers against the Los
Maraneros World Series in October? You're ready for that?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I was not aware that it would go right on
the schedule, but I am happy that the Mariners are
in first place here in May and gives everybody something
to talk about and something to enjoy. The Dodgers over
the years that they've been owned by this Guggenheim group,
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and we've had him on the station, and it's pretty crazy.
They have been so competitive that it's almost kind of
more fun when they lose. Like last weekend they got
swept by the Angels, right, which is you know, like
having your little brother come and kick your ass. It's
like Eastern Washington beating the Huskies.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Right something, which is almost.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Or Portland State, you know, coming and beating Gonzaga and
basketball or something. And that that happened over the weekend
and then the chef's kiss was Otani struck out to
lose the last game on Sunday night. And I mean, honestly,
that kind of stuff to get the fans a little
bit angry and get people riled up is sort of
(02:45):
what we need, to be honest, because they win so
much and they have such a great record all the time.
I mean, there's still a top the division despite getting
swept over the weekend that it gets a little boring.
So we did a little We needed tahem spice for
Armichelada down here because the team's too good. How do
you like that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
And that's you know, they're not going to get to
the one sixteen Mariners, I don't think, but they but
they may get close, there's no question about it. But
you know, I think a lot of people just see
La because because the NBA, you see the NBA playoffs
and Lebron the finals and everything, and they think La
is a Laker town. But yeah, it's a Laker town,
But would you say it's a Dodgertown first, Lakertown second
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and USC football third? Is that kind of the hierarchy
and then fourth place is like a mile behind them.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I hate to say this, but USC football is dead.
College football in town has has kind of died. Now.
If USC football wins eleven games and has a great season,
which they're not going to, then everybody kind of opens up,
you know, because the judges, the lawyers, the politicians, the actors,
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the producers, all the rich people are USC people, but
they only care if USC is having success. So that
is kind of an interesting thing. USC the season looks
like six and six is kind of a sleeping giant,
so to speak, So that is kind of interesting. But
this is a Dodger town. First. I think it kind
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of always has been, despite Kobe and Shaq and Showtime
was a whole thing. But the NBA has kind of
priced out your average everyday fan here in the city
of Los Angeles. Which is not to say that a
beer is in twenty bucks near a Dodger stadium and
an Otani jersey is in three hundred and fifty. But
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you have to give the Dodgers credit. They are the
most visited sport on Earth, and it's been that way
for a long time because the stadium is so big,
and because they have so many games, and because of
the greatness the just absolute, unparallel greatness of the Latino
fan base LA, which makes it pretty special. So all
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that being said, yeah, they're number one, and then the
Lakers they're number two, and then beyond that, I'd say, gosh,
I'd have to bite my tongue to say it, but
probably the Rams, you know, uh, and then maybe the Clippers,
and then maybe the Chargers and then SC and UCLA football.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I mean, if USC football and not far wow.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Well, I mean, think about it, Dick, For God's sake,
The buzz about USC football in this coming season this
is I'm serious. Like, the buzz for the Dogs right
now is what they got a good young quarterback and
they're excited about that, and this guy's gonna call plays
and maybe they win eight games whatever, but at least
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that's something. The buzz about USC football right now is
that they hired a new GM and he is securing
great verbal comitments for a freshman class in twenty twenty six. Reber,
this is USC football we're talking about. I mean, what
the hell is that?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
You know, a GM that's getting commitments for a year
from a season from now with a bunch of guys
who probably won't even be there that are going to
be freshmen anyway if they are, and they're not going
to be some group that's nurtured and grown organically like
Harmon did with the Michigan team or anything like that.
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So yeah, USC football, I mean, what the offseason talk
is a GM for twenty twenty six and Lincoln Riley
in a cowardly way trying to politically wriggle out of
the Notre Dame game, which I'm sorry is not going
to happen right.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Right, Well, Petros I just about the Mariners and the
Dodgers in the World Series.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
But let me just share this anecdote with you.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Here is how delusional Softie and I were at about
this time last year, maybe eight later. I remember vividly
being in richmore Purple sheet Rischmore's office with Softy, the
three of us, and we were looking at the schedule
and we were like, oh my god, do you realize
that the Huskies play USC on the day that there
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will be a World Series game in LA against the Mariners.
And we were like planning our schedule around going to
the day USC Washington game and then driving from the
Coliseum to Dodger Stadium to watch the Mariners because at
the time, the Mariners were ten games up in the
Al West and not only did they not make the
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World Series Petros, they didn't even make the playoffs. So,
you know, I just about Los Marineros making the World
Series because who knows, twenty twenty five could be exactly
like last year and we could be sitting at home
in October.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, you guys were two thirds of the way right.
You know, there was an SC game that night, and
there was a World Series game.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Just got the raw American League team.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah it was the Yankees, which is a you know,
a whole other thing, but it is it is kind
of interesting to sort of ride this wave every year
with this baseball team and to see how they do it.
I mean, the team was all built up like a big,
beautiful taj Mahal the Dodgers were when the season started,
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and now they're not even recognizable. They've had so many injuries.
But they have their three guys, you know, Tani Freendy
Freeman and Mookie Betts right now healthy at the top
of the lineup. But it is it is interesting because
they always seem to make the playoffs and get there,
whether it works out or not. At the end of
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the year, they're always around ninety or one hundred wins,
and I think people around here are starting to take
that for granted. Dick, I got to be on it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
No, it happened, happens in every sport. We saw that.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
We saw that vividly with the Seahawks in the middle
of the last decade, no question about it. Sweet James
brings you the Petros Popadeka Show and we basis on
Wednesdays at four o'clock. So are you ready for another
season of having your tush pushed? Petros? What do you
think about the ruling today in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You know, I thought it was really interesting that they
ever thought of getting rid of it. You know, I
remember that there was a very loose I mean, it
was a rule on the books for football in general
when I was younger that you know. That's why the
bush push was supposed to be outlawed, right or supposed
to be flagged in the moment, way back in two
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thousand and five, which is where we get the name
from the bush push, the tush push. I mean, really,
it's just an old wing tee football play and it
kind of reminds you that in a lot of football
most there are very few things and we point to
them and we laun them and we talk about them,
like the run and shoot or the air raid, or
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when somebody invented, you know, the flanker. You know that.
But but a lot of stuff that happens in football is
just the old becoming new again. You know. For instance,
we all remember when Jim Harbaugh brought the power back.
The power not just like the word power, but the
actual play power with the pulling guard and to kick
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out and the fullback leading through, and it became a
viable play again through Stanford football and Jim Harbaugh. It's
not like no one knew how to run power. Everybody
knew how to do it, but he brought it back
and made it a weapon again. The wildcat, you know,
that's nothing but a single wing offense with an extra
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you know, with a running quarterback and an extra blocker.
That's that's all that was. It took a quick second
for the NFL defensive coordinators to catch up to it,
but you know, that wasn't new, but it was something
to talk about. And I think it's the same with
the with the tush push. It's it's just really well
executed by that team. But I I don't know if
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he delivered his point while talking about wet dreams, but
that Eagle owner Guy Lourie, he made a good He
made a good point. I mean, to be so good
at executing a legal play that they want to outlaw
it is says a lot about what the Eagles have
accomplished here. I don't think being able to run that
play makes you invincible. If it was the case, Air
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Force would be undefeated every year because good luck stopping
them on fourth and one. I don't care who you are. Uh,
that's just what they're going to do. And they can
do it, and they drill it, you know, from February.
It's like Concord Daala Sal when they won eight hundred
games the high school team way back in advance. I
think they they lost. Their undefeated streak was broken in Bellevue.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yes, Bellevue. I was at the game, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, I was. I called my very first national game
on Fox for Next Day Washington Fresno State, which was interesting.
But I remember that, yes, But overall, yeah, I don't have.
I mean, I haven't really talked about it much on
the air other than just you know, passing through the
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headlines and chef. But I like the fact that they're
leaving the play intact and I think everybody should learn
how to run it, and everybody should learn how to
stop it, and we can go from there. A big
part of being great in football is being able to
have short yardage and success in short yardage, and that
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gets forgotten by a lot of people, especially in the
worlds of the Lane Kiffins and Steve Sarkisians and Lincoln
Riley's and master play callers, that we lawd and grease
up all the time, and maybe we shouldn't as much
if they can't go get one yard on third and
one like the Eagles have proven to do. I mean,
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Hurts is not He is not a comparable passer to
a lot of really, uh just normal quarterbacks from the NFL.
So what is it about him? And how have they
been able to master this? Uh? You got to give
him credit. And I love also the fact that the
Eagles have brought back the Bell cow running back, you know,
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into the pantheon of the NFL. I mean, when I
was a kid in the eighties, if you were, we
cared more about who the starting running back was whether
it was Walter Payton or Christian Okoye or Roger Craig
or you know any of these guys. O J Anderson.
I mean we cared about that. Yeah, that those guys
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were as big of a deal as the quarterback and
Barry Sanders. I mean, they were just as exciting. So
so I am fully in with the tush push. I
don't like the name.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
You don't like the name, all right, well we can uh,
you know, we can call it whatever they call in Philadelphia.
It's not the Philly Special, It's it's it's something else.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
But he told.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Me that the tush push has had a big effect
on Hurtz though. It's like physically his tush now has
a big crack in it.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Is that right? Yeah? I love that. That's very good.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Well, are you going to start the other big story
in the in the NFL? Are you gonna dust off
your old flag football flags and practice some flag poland
so you can turn out for Team USA?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
So I could pull both Hammies and my blue my Achilles. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know. I mean, if the
NFLPA says it's okay, that's one thing. But to get
individual permission from your team is another one. I mean,
I doubt people are going to be very comfortable with
guys out there firing their legs against a flag football
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team from Senegal or something. But for me, I like,
I've never been a fan of flag football or seven
on seven or anything like that as it relates to
real football, right, Like, there's real football, like we were
just talking about, and then there's seven on seven leagues
and flag football and all the stuff we do in
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the offseason for quarterbacks and wide receivers to be able
to stretch together. And that's fine, and that's all necessary.
It's part of the football calendar. But it's not real football.
And there's a whole like subset of people, like the
same type of weirdos that are into frisbee golf and
stuff like that. There's a whole, there's a whole. There's
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a whole group of people that are dedicated to flag football,
right and they do it and it's their little niche
sport like snooker or something, and you know, let them play.
You know, I don't want to watch Tyreek Hill out
there running routes. I really don't, you know, I mean,
it's stupid. To have flag football? Is this a sport
that's globally practiced?
Speaker 4 (15:51):
You know, not that I know who's going to play
against Team US.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Ever since I watched the Chick from Australia Breakdance, I'm
you know, like, can we just throw the javelin? You know?
Can we just do what they used to do in
ancient Greece Take all your clothes off, grease up, put
the fig leaf over your crotch, and get out there
and perform wrestle with another man and compete. Run run
the race, you know, to add all these weird I mean,
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what are we going to do? Add the hack stats?
To go down to bet Beach? Sure, see how many
times a guy can SMI mack it on his knee
and do the freaking paws on the back of his neck.
I mean, that's more relevant in California than flag football,
for God's sake. But uh, I mean, I guess I'd
be interested just to see what it looks like. But
I mean, there's real football and then there's flag football,
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and I don't think that line should be crossed by professionals.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Petros always a pleasure, love your opinions. We will talk
to you next week. As our buddies still in Greece
next week.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
So yeah. He asked me about the tipping culture in
Greece and I told him, you know, it's not expect
but they appreciate it. And he wrote back, I want
to sit in.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I want to fit in. Okay, let's where does he
Where does he ever fit in? Let's be honest.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Well, you know people are going to think he's got
a swarthy look with a giant nose, so people are
going to think he's Creek.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Gotcha, He'll fit right in with the locals. Love you, man.
We'll talk to you next, talk to you next week.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Love you Dick. I have a great one, all right.
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Speaker 4 (18:01):
Hell Jackson, the Seahawks have released their pre season schedule. Yeah,
pardon me while I fall.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Asleep for a second.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Hey, we open up against Pete Carroll and the Las
Vegas Raiders. You know, he let the cat out of
the bag on an interview last week about that. But
Pete Carroll will bring you his Raiders into town. So
we get to see gin Know Smith against the Seahawks. No,
probably not. And then the week after on a Friday,
August fifteenth, Hey, the Kansas City Chiefs are coming to town,
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so we'll get to see Patrick Mahomes. No, we want
August to twenty third. They'll go to Green Bay, so
we'll get to see Jordan Love again.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
No, we want. So there's the Seahawks schedule.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Vegas on a Thursday at home, Chiefs on a Friday
at home, Packers on a Saturday on the road.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Get your tickets now, I guess if you want to.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
It's funny.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I know you do these as well.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
But we go on the Fox thirteen Washington Sports rap
show this week Monday, the question was fair foul? The
Seahawks will win two of their three preseason games, and
I'm like, fairy, how about it.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I don't care one way.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
These are backups versus Okay, listen, you could give me
one hundred dollars to name a backup second string player
on the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I would not make that one hundred dollars. That's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Well, Hugh's back with us, and you know you we
were talking earlier in the show about the Tush push
and you were having a nice back and forth. I
thought with Florida, I think good perspectives on both sides,
and I hate to be the fence rider on this,
but you know, sometimes there's going to be sports topics
that you're just not passionate about on one side or
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the other. Because I do see both your argument and
Florida's argument. Your argument that is not a football play.
It is a play from a different sport that largely
is played not even in this country. I do know
that there's rugby here, but it comes from elsewhere, and
I totally agree with that. I don't like watching it.
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It frustrated me when I watched the Washington Commanders like
purposely go off sides five times in a row in
the NFC Championship game that took like three minutes. I mean,
it was just it was a mockery that three minutes
made a mockery of the NFC Championship game. In my opinion,
I think you agree with that. But I can also
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see florio sides, like when thirteen of the fourteen teams
that are playing the defending Super Bowl champions are voting
against the play. Are they really voting against the play
because they don't think the play should be in football?
Or are they just voting for it because well, yeah,
it's gonna give us a competitive advantage if we don't
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have to practice against the toushbush.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
So that was a little that was a little for
me for for for me to read that.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
But bottom line is, if I were to choose keep
it in or take it out based upon your logic,
I would agree with you.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I would choose to take it out. But it's not
something I'm gonna die on.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
A hill on.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, I mean I understand.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
I think that there are some topics where you can
look and you can assess the arguments for and against
and and you could say, hey, on this topic, there's
really compelling points on both sides. You know, it could
It doesn't have to be sports. You might you might
feel the death penalty you know has uh, it could
be in anything. I don't think that we're compelled to
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on every issue, right if there's a linear scale to
be always at one extreme or the other, sometimes we're
relatively close to the minimal.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
It seems like talk radio goes to that sometimes, particularly
national talk radio, like you know, Steven A or whatever's
got I gotta have a take on everything, and I
got to be so far onto one side or so
far on the other.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
For me, it's like there's a there's a happy medium.
On some of these tips, I think you lose your credibility.
I think it's sensible to say, look, on this topic,
I'm really torn. And that's a take in and of itself,
because that take you saying there's really good points on
both sides. Now, I'm not in the middle on this.
I am of the belief that can we I'll walk
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you just kind of through some of my thoughts on this.
Can we agree that football is more popular than rugby?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (22:27):
In America? Yes? By what factor?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Approximately five thousand to one?
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Okay, so five thousand to one, So Is it fair,
reasonable and appropriate that football would have rules that would
distinguish it from rugby? Yes, and to make it more exciting.
Nothing dissimilar to rules that are in other sports. And
the two I just thought of that popped into my head.
One the shift in baseball.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Now, yeah, you could have beaten the shift if anybody
was capable of hitting the ball the other way, which
they're not, so they took it out because it was
bad for baseball.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
The defensive three second violation.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
We don't want, you know, teams having three seven footers
in the NBA just standing two on the block and
one in the middle of the paint and protecting.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Because it's bad for basketball if.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
You can't attack the paint. I don't see anything dissimilar
to this. It's just trying to make the game more
fun to watch.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
So but this is this is the distinction here, though,
is this is not a new rule that is being
proposed in twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five. This
is just reverting to a rule that was identified. Assisting
the runner was deemed a penalty back in nineteen ten.
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Now that was college football. We didn't have the NFL
in nineteen ten. The NFL came into existence in nineteen twenty,
and from its inception, it adopted the assisting the runner.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
For five years, yes, eighty five.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Five years and if you want to count the college
for ninety five years, right, Okay, So this is a
rule designed to distinguish football from rugby, among other things. Right,
So if you look at at football, Uh, there's black
and white videos that you can see. I think it
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might have been Princeton Harvard, I think is what it was,
you know, like like at the onset of video, and
it looked like a scrum every damn down, a toot
push every down and so and.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
The final scores were six to three.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
Yes, and like just a yawn. And so if it's
if it's fair reasonable appropriate for football to have rules
that distinguish it from a less attractive game, right, and
doing things like adding the forward pass right to make
it a more attractive game. Okay, That benefits fans, That
(25:04):
benefits the money making enterprise that the owners and and
and everybody else were financially. Uh benefit benefits from the
layers because the players are going to get paid more money.
Because the only point, yes, my point, My point is
that it is a it is essentially a rugby play
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that was, in the infinite wisdom from going back to
the turn of the previous century, was deemed to be
not the way that that we wanted football to operate,
And as recently as two thousand and four it was impermissible,
and and and and I would just say, I think
it's a I think it's a distraction for me. It's
(25:48):
a distraction to say, oh, well, the Eagles are good
at it, so let's just uh uh, so this looks
like bad optics or sour grapes or some what call
whatever you want, that we're gonna outlaw the Eagles. No,
my point would be, let's suppose everybody was really good
at fourth and one when you got the fourth and one,
(26:09):
that every team just just just a thought experiment. Okay,
imagine that all teams are exactly equal with the Eagles
at at the fourth and onst.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Pl fourth and one would no longer be an exciting
play to watch.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Well, yes, I would still I would still look at
that and say that that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
That's not a football play. So that is a rugby play.
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Now, thirteen to fourteen teams that played the Eagles this
year voted against it.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I would assume those teams aren't gonna.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Flip flop next year when the vote comes over, because
that would just look bad. They're like, well, why'd you
vote for the Eagles that they're not gonna they're they're
gonna keep.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
I'll make you bet right now, not one team that
clips that voted against No, they'll be they'll they'll be
teams I predict at some point. I mean, right now,
you have sixty percent of the owners, well more.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Twenty two, yeah, more than twenty two, thirty thirty.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
Two of thirty two, so more than two thirds of
the owners are against it now. I don't believe there
will be one owner that is against it today that
will be for it.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I agree, I agree. So here's my point. Here's my point.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
There's gonna be new teams that play the Eagles next year,
and maybe they voted for it, voted for a passing
this year, but they won't voted for it next year.
So I predict that you're gonna get those two votes
next year. You're gonna be over twenty four and it's
gonna be done for good, don't you think?
Speaker 7 (27:38):
I hope? So, I mean look, I would have thought
I would have never thought that we get this far.
I think it's an absurd play. I don't think it
showcases the skills of football players. I think there's a
reason why football is much You know, the Seattle Sea
Wolves not trying to bang on unrugged fans or the
(28:01):
good people that are running.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
The Sea Wolves.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
Every sport, they get about eighteen hundred to twenty five
hundred people watch their games. Rugby has been objectively determined
to be a far inferior sport as an entertainment product
than football, and so now we are permitting a rugby
play that was impermissible for ninety five years in football
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