May 7, 2025 • 37 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Hugh Millen react to the Mariners comeback win today over the Athletics, the offense and what they are on pace for, then the weekly visit with Petros Papadakis covers Florida, books, the Lakers, and UW with Jedd Fisch.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Petros Papadacus being a high maintenance you know what,
has to readjust the schedule. He'll join us in about
fifteen minutes from now at four to twenty on the
radio show Larry Stone.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Great day to have Larry on.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
By the way, he was all the Mariner yaking going
on here on the radio station that's at five o'clock
courtesy of the RAM. But I don't know, I mean,
I just think there's a lot of narratives around the
baseball team right now. You know, is Dan Wilson going
to be the runaway manager of the year in the
American League? Is Jerry Depoto going to be the executive
of the year in Major League Baseball?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We're gonna have to all bend over and kiss his ass.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Offensive team tell us telling.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Me he was right, man, because he's I mean, Jerry
to Pono actually was wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
You have a good offensive team.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
They don't have a good offensive team. They have a
great offensive team.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
The Mariners are on pace to be second in baseball
and one scored compared to where they would have been
a year ago. Cal Rowley's playing like an MVP. Horay
Polanco is playing like an MVP Rowdy t Lez was
gonna be hitting a scrap heap about three weeks ago,
and ever since that comeback against the Astros, the guy's
got an eight sixty three oh ps. So Jerry doesn't
(01:10):
know what he's talking about. This is a great offensive team. Well,
and Julio, he got a couple of hits today.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I think he's hitting over three hundred this week, so
maybe he's starting to heat up a little bit. He
was in the three hole today and then but I
also think you know now who gave up the five
runs in the first four innings, but he pitched two
so he from that point on down five to nothing.
(01:38):
After four, he gives you two scoreless innings. Bizardo, he
gives you one point one, right, fire gives you two outs,
and Munos he gave up a hit, but he got
got two more k's, and so from that point on, yeah,
the offense had to do its thing. But five out
of the innings were shut out by all four of
(02:02):
those pitchers combined. So so I don't know, just they
just seem to be playing more synergetic baseball right than
they had been.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
You know, when one side needs to lift the other
ones providing it more than they had. You know, that
seemed like that was the curse of them last year.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, I'm just going back to what you're saying about Julio.
What was his stat line again today? You got that
right in front. I got two for five, two for
five today. Oh but there both singles. Yeah, that's fine,
two for five. He had the home run yesterday. So
I'm looking at Julio on the road trip, starting with
the first game against Texas. So if he was two
for five today, eight for twenty four so far on
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the trip, he was hitting three sixteen or a ten
forty one ops coming into today on the road trip.
So yeah, Julio's kind of turned things around. I mean again,
you know, you you look at all the kinds of
different analytics, and you know, his hard hit rate, things
like that, his exit v LO things like that, and
people will tell you that Julio Rodriguez is actually having
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maybe a better start than he did a year ago.
But he's hitting three thirty three on the road trip,
and it seems like kind of ever since going back
to that Marlins game on the twenty sixth of April,
So we're talking, you know what a week and a
half ago, the guy's got an ops over nine hundred
with three home runs and seven ribis.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I mean, he is really starting to kind of turn
things around.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And look, if they get the pitching even remotely close
to healthy and what they were getting a year ago,
and they get Julio to continue on this path and
start maybe delivering with some power, there's no limit to.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
What this baseball team can do.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And I mean all of us were sitting here Jackson included, saying, Hey,
if there's any confidence about the baseball team in twenty
twenty five, a big reason for it is because the
division's freaking terrible. Well, the Mariners don't need a bad
division because they're on pace to win ninety nine games Jackson,
right now, it's amazing.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, And honestly, you do the whole kind of math
earlier about the last twenty three games. I mean, they're
not going to go on on one hundred and twenty
game win pace the entire season, right They're not.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
But I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
If it takes a ninety five win pace at this point.
I mean, like, listen, I think we're seeing that there
are teams that you know, Houston, Okay, in Texas. How
good is Brett Boon gonna be for them? Will actually
see you know, jokes aside, But I don't think the
Mariners need to worry about necessarily winning a full ninety
five game schedule to win pace to actually take this division.
(04:33):
If you can just continue to ride with what you've
been writing with, get the pitching back, knowing that the
hitting will drop off a little bit, we're gonna be.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Okay, Hugh, I want you to run your little Dirk
machine there, boy. I want you to tell us where
we are in the NFL season. Okay, Oh, they've played
thirty six games so far. There's one hundred and twenty
six games left. And while you're doing that, there's a
reason why I bring it up, because I think we
get to a point in the NFL season where a
team could be like four and oher or five and
(05:00):
one or whatever. You start thinking, oh, man, we're we're
kind of getting close to the halfway point here a
little bit. Do we start talking about maybe challenging for
that number one seed right in the NFC? And I
don't know if this is now the time to do that.
I mean, it's not even Memorial Day, for God's sake,
since the seventh of May. Do we at twenty two
and fourteen, playing six eleven ball and the Mariners on
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pace to win ninety nine games? When do we start
to have that conversation? Because somebody will inevitably say, well,
the man at you jokers bring that stuff up on
the airs a minute. They pissed their pants and they
fall apart, right like they had a ten game lead
last year.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
They pissed their pants and they fell apart.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
But does this seem more sustainable than what happened last year?
And I don't even mean what Jackson just said there,
you know, one hundred and twenty win pace second offense
in baseball. The offense eventually has got to cool down.
But does this seem hugh a little more sustainable because
you're getting it from ten, eleven, twelve different players every
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single week? It seems like versus just five guys in
your rotation.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, I would say obviously. The first thing comes to
mind is is I don't think Polanco is gonna be
a three fifty hitter and and ops eleven hundred.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Based on what, based on what? Because he's never done it.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Okay, guys, so that would be one you know, Tavaris
is hitting two forty one Rowdy tell us seems you know,
he's two to eight, but it seems like he's had
some clutch contributions. Dylan Moore, he's probably playing a little
better than then we would have thought. Right, So I
(06:37):
think that there are some guy you know, and and
JP Crawford is just kind of reverting back to twenty
twenty three form, right, He's basically mirroring that, so he's
done it before. So I would say the offense is
maybe a little bit overachieving. But you know, we can
expect Julio to you know, because he always comes on
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and it will whatever whatever it is that causes him
to have a slow start. But maybe you just ran
some numbers there, maybe you start to think, could he
break break out of the slump?
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I don't know if you can be in a slump
to start a season, but you know what I mean,
you know, So, so I would say I don't think
that the offense is going to keep up this pace right, right?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
But remember they don't remember they just because you mentioned Tavarius,
I remember they did. They just grabbed him off waivers
from the Rangers. So today was his first game. So
everything he did up until today was with Texas and
they let him walk. I mean he's a guy that
started or excuse me, played one hundred and fifty one
games for a for a for a you know, world
championship team two years ago, one hundred and forty three
and then one hundred and fifty one games last year
(07:43):
when they kind of fell apart. So, I mean, Leoni
Tavarus at some point was looked at as a pretty
young good ones started centerfielder for a world Seriously, he
gets waived and the Mariners pick him up. So I mean, look,
his first game here today great so far, but it's
only one game.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
But but for what he's been do, yeah, point, But
I would say, you know, also we talked about the
pitchers a little bit. It's only one walk given up
the whole game. That was by Wu and so so
the three guys out of the bullpen, I mean, you know,
that's that's oftentimes when you say when when's the bullpen?
When are they failing? Well, often you just you say, well,
(08:19):
there's a few critical walks and all of a sudden you're,
you know, one hit and you lose a ball game.
But I don't know, I just I think that they're
playing above themselves that this pace. I don't believe they're
going to keep this up. Yeah, right, right, But I
don't have to though, That's the thing. They don't have
to They can they win ninety two? Can they win
ninety one? How can they win ninety I said ninety
(08:40):
five paces? I think that that was more than enough.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Well, and again, you know, the the Mariners offense, just
to reiterate, they're on a pace right now. Runs scored wise,
that would have been number two in baseball a year ago.
So to go from twenty first to second, I mean
they may as well just give Jerry to Poto the
Executive of the Year and engrave his freaking name out
on that thing right now if they get to that point.
(09:02):
But they don't need to be second in baseball? Can
they be tenth in baseball? Can they be eleventh in baseball?
Can they make a you know, a fifty five percent
jump from.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Where they were a year ago?
Speaker 5 (09:13):
This is kind of crazy that it feels like they've
had really good starts before, right, this is the best
start through May seven and so three. Yeah, I mean,
like this is this is reason twenty two years this
is reason to be hyped, if nothing else.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
So they were nineteen and sixteen last year, they were
seventeen and eighteen and twenty three, and they were sixteen
and nineteen in twenty twenty two. So now they're after
their best start in twenty two years. Meaning literally somebody
who is I don't know how old do you have
to be to have your first sports memory. Dick and
I have this conversation all the time. Dick remembers coming
out of the womb. By the way, it's incredible, Okay,
So I mean, let's just five years old. Let's just
(09:49):
say you're five years old, right or four or five?
I mean you've never seen this after the first twenty whatever,
thirty whatever games of the year.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
No, incredible, wow, incredible. By the way, answer your question. Football,
we are in game four, okay, it's the fourth quarter, okay,
and there's thirteen twenty remaining in the game.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
All right, perfect, So we're so we're probably like what
on its game four year, two and one. You're about
to be three and one and three and one. I
think people start to get a little bit fired up
in three in one, all right. Petros Papadaka is gonna join.
He's gonna change the schedule because he is an important guy. Uh,
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Speaker 8 (11:05):
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Dick is on vacation.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yes, it's true. This man has no Dick.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Oh where'd he go?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
He's coming home from Florida with his family.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I believe they went to a wedding and they just
thought they'd make a vacation out of it.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Well that's cool, Yeah right, yeah, I'm doing okay. I've
read a few books about Florida over the years, a
lot of books about Florida.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
As a matter of fact, have you not been to Florida? Well,
I've been to Miami.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
That's not really Florida though, right, yeah, I haven't really well,
I played a.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Game in ninety eight at Florida State when they were
really good.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Okay, yeah, you're.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Warwick and Chris Wanky, so that was kind of really
my first experience.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I believe it's pronounced winky by the way, not wanky
like wanker.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Right, Well, i'd been to I've been to Florida a
few times, but the books I read I started reading
a detective series many years ago that started like in
the sixties, late sixties, maybe seventies, and it went on
for a long time. A guy named John McDonald wrote
a detective series with the detective named Travis McGee. Okay,
(13:24):
not really a detective, more of like a marine salvage guy.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
You know. Well, it works like this.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Let's say somebody stole a bunch something from you and
you cannot legally get it back. You would hire Travis
McGee to get it and then he keeps.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Half kind of like the A team.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
If you have a problem so no one else can help,
and if you can find him, you can hire Travis McGee.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
But a guy that lives on a houseboat gun in
Fort Lauderdale at buthe Amar so that's that was the
one series I started reading and then I finished. I
read all of those books, and I was calling a
football game with Chris Myers, right.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
And you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that guy.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
And Chris Myers. The guys that are his spotter and
stat guy are famously called the Sunshine Boys, ah, because
they're from West Florida. And I mentioned one of the
Sunshine Boys the Travis McGee series.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I like, yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
And then he got me onto the Randy Wayne White
book series of the dock Ford series, which is a
West West Florida Sannabel Island book series, and that's dock Ford,
who's more like a clandestine government agent slash marine biologist.
(14:44):
And those are very good books. There's there's a lot
of them. Actually, he's still writing that series, and I've
been enjoying that and learning all about places like Sannabel
Island and Captiva Island and Fort Myers, Florida. They all
seem very interesting in the book and then of course
in the books, and then tarp and Springs, Florida is
(15:06):
the largest Greek population outside of Greece.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
You don't say you not?
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Yeah, interesting, sponge divers, real goat efforts.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I I I really do wish I had the patience
to read more books.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Man, I just I can't do it.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Yeah, because you're you just want to sit there and
scream and yell and tweet about the Marinas and drink
girl drinks.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
What do you mean girl drinks?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
You know, like vodka soda or whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
What's wrong with vodka soda? Little Tito's soda. Only chicks
drink Tito's soda. What should I be drinking beer?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
And Bob Stoops drinks cranberry?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
So should I be drinking beer?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
No, I'm not whiskey scout. You should do whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Well, I like a lot of other drinks, but my
go to do you know why? My go to is
Tito's Soda with a splash of cranberry, although now it's
a sidecar a cranberry because the bartender is always messing up,
by the way, but way too much cranberry juice. If
I wanted cranberry, I just say cranberry vodka. No, I
want a Tito Soda with a splash of cranberry.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Why I do that? By the way, why do you
think I do that?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I don't know, because you're which is fine.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Oh my god, it's because I want to eat and
drink a little healthier, cut out the sugar, and don't
ever want to go back to the fat ass that
I was when I first met you.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
You were hefty, man.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Okay, Well, Hugh Millan, you know I carrid a little
extra weight.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Worse.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, Hugh melon once told me that my body looks
like a container for other bodies.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Wow, And that was the day I said I've had
enough the.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Old Ray Ratto look, the bean bag body and the
bulling ballhead.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Because that really cut me deep when he said that. Man, hey,
have we have we spoken? By the way, since Lebron
and the Lakers got eliminated from the playoffs, oh boy,
that had to be a fun night at your house.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Well it's kind of interesting because all the stuff that
everybody said that was negative came true.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Right. JJ.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
Reddick was inexperienced and did get exposed. It took a while,
and you have to give him credit. They captured the
three seeds three seed and that was pretty good. And
they had a nice run after, like a linsanityesque run
right after the Luca trade when he got healthy again
and started playing that was pretty exciting in LA. But
(17:37):
when it was all said and done, jj Reddick look inexperience,
Lebron looked old, and Luca looked fat. Yeah, right, all
three of those things. And then the other thing. They
didn't have a big guy, and that was very glaringly
obvious with the way Rudy Gobert, a screaming Frenchman, was
treating him. I haven't seen so much French screaming since
(17:59):
I saw Lima rob so.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Well, they had one. His name was Anthony Davis.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Yeah, they had him, and then they tried to trade
for that other guy, Williams. Yeah, and they backed out of
that trade physical right. Somebody said something on ESPN I
thought was interesting. They said, even if he got that
guy from Charlotte, who knows if he even would have
played him. I mean, jj Reddick kind of looked like
an air raid coach in the playoffs, playing people a
whole doing stuff that no one's ever done before, playing
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a forty year old and a fat guy the entire
second half, and then wondering why they ran out of
gas and being like.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Well we took the lead, we were closed.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
That's that's such an air raid thing, you know, it's like, hey,
you guys lost by one. Yeah, but you see, we
just missed that deep pass. I mean, was just that
we were closed. It's like, what excuse me?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
The greatest quarterback maybe in the history of the NFL
did come from an air raid system, but there's.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
No doubt about it. But he don't run one now.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
No, and no one really saw his true brilliant and
since a quarterback because of the system he came from.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Including me, And who's more brilliant than me?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Nobody?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Uh, I'm still making my point. I'm sorry. All of
it was true.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Lebron meglomaniac, old, washed up Luca fat but the future
JJ Reddick, insufferable and inexperience, Bronnie James, Yeah, not an
NBA player. All of those things came out in the
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wash when it was all said and done, and those
were all things that the critical people were saying as
we as we marched toward the inevitable Laker elimination.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
So so Lebron's done, right, He's finished?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
I mean, he's got another year, they got it, he's
gonna player option and they're gonna have to pay him
another fifty million.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
But Bronny's got to be done though, right at least
why I don't.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Know, you know, I mean he's still and complete control
of the franchise. I guess I mean Luca maybe not.
Maybe that's not exactly true because Luka Doncic is there,
and maybe he doesn't want to be the number two
to Luka Doncic, which he kind of is just just
by nature of the ages of the two players. Maybe
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he doesn't want to do that, So maybe he does
force a trade or wave whatever it is, or or retire.
I have no idea, but whatever he does, he'll do
it soon, and he'll do it to bring attention to himself.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Hey, two things I know I do want to talk
to you about.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I love living on the lebron calendar.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
He's getting nailed by the king right well, every waxing
and waning moon.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I know that you were you were slightly aroused after
they got eliminated in the first round, so I'm I'm
I'm happy for you.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I know that you were very, very afraid of them
making a run.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I don't root for anybody, Yeah, but you're root against
a lot of things though You're right, you're really at
the same time you know what, the same time, there
is like a feeling of the of the abyss. Yeah,
you know, because the Clippers were out in a moment,
the Lakers were out before that, the Kings were out
in a moment. And now, I mean not that I'm
going to talk about all those things incessantly, but it's
a pretty big tasm between all that stuff and the
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start of the football season. But we have the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Yeah, yeah, they're doing well, doing well.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
They're doing okay, what.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Do you mean they're doing okay? They're like twenty five
and twelve.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
They're beat up there. Yes, they have a good record.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Don't they have the best record in baseball?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I think they do.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
The Mets are pretty good too, They're very good. But yeah,
the Dodgers are interesting to watch. I mean they a
lot of injuries. Ti Oscar Hernandez went out with a
pulled hammy. That's a big problem, and not a lot
of starting pitching. Snell Seattle guy is on the IL,
and Tyler Glass now who is never healthy, is on
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the the IL. And Kershaw isn't back yet even though
he's like a thousand years old, and so it goes.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, best record in baseball pal twenty four and twelve.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
All right, don't call me pal, you I don't like.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
It before today's game bub.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
All right, I'm just saying, yeah, and if they're really
really good, I mean, there's not that much to talk about.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Hey, did you happen to flip on the Big ten
network on Friday and see your boy Yogi roth yapping
about the Huskies and the spring game on Friday? You know,
Jed Fish really got behind it, the entire spring game thing,
and thank you, it's kind of paid off a little bit.
They had like twenty thousand people there, which for you,
Dub is good. It's on a Friday night. They had
(22:37):
Corgi races. It was fun.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
That's something to do. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
No, how did that quarterback who's probably going to disappoint you?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Look Demond?
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Why would he? Why would he? Why would he? Probably
that's French for the Mond by the way. Why would
he disappoint? Because the expectations are stupidations are quite high.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
What are my expectations?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
I think their expectation they're like uh aiden childs ask Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I mean I'm not the one saying he's gonna go
to that. We're talking about New York and the Heisman.
You know who's been saying that, Jed Fish has been
saying that.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Yeah, that's not why he said.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
It a year ago when he was backing up Will Rogers.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Okay, when he was at number two? All right, jad insane?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, never heard that such a thing from a coach.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Just juggled Jaden Delora and Fafita. Yeah right, I don't know.
I mean, I hope he has a great year. I
hope that Washington football has a year comparable.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
To the Deboor years. But I just don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
I mean, obviously there's a lot of depletion and in
a huge seismic sea change when when your coach left
for Alabama and you hired somebody else and ever since then,
I don't know if it's a search for identity or
just kind of a shrug of the shoulders, but I'll
be surprised if Washington is dominated again nder Jetfish.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Wow?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Like ever, I don't know, Okay, well maybe maybe, I
mean the guy, look, the guy rebuilt Arizona. Right, does
that mean he can drive the Seattle ship into the harbor,
which has a lot of expectation?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Well, why can he I mean there's more teams in
the playoff now than there was before. If he took
a one win team to eleven wins, why can't he
do the same thing at Washington with better resources?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, and better talent?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I mean, what is your problem with Jetfish?
Speaker 4 (24:31):
I don't have a problem.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I think you do.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
No, it's just a I always am reticent about head
coaches that call their own offensive play.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Oh, okay, it's.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Always to me it's I mean, Sark has had a
lot of success at Texas, and he's made a lot
of money at Texas, and he's they have a lot
of money at Texas. But still, when it comes down
to it in the championship game, there's something about Sark
calling his own plays. There's there's that moment there wow,
And I know you recognize it because you covered the
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guy so closely, right, Like, am I wrong? Am I
making this up? There's just something about Kiffin does it,
Lincoln Riley does it, And to me, it's a it's
an overall philosophy of football. If your head coach is
calling offensive plays, there is a little there's a little
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chirping bird in the back of his head telling him
to do something stupid, telling him, well, it's just it's
just what it is.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Got to hang on a second, though, because you're telling
me and maybe it's all relative. And I get that
that Steve Sarkisian got to the Final four two years
in a row and then because of his own play
calling getting in the way of his brain working properly.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
There's always chef fish makes the damn final.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Or yeah we'll be thrilled.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Well that's fine, But sarkedn't make any final anything when
he was at Washington.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
And those were the resources that he had then. And
then he goes to Texas. That's different. Yeah, okay, totally different.
It was.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
It was coming off twelve seasons.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Well whatever, it is the same guy on the same program. Buddy, Hey,
look at am. I not when was the last coach
that called his own plays that.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Won a championship?
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Uh? Where?
Speaker 4 (26:23):
When? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (26:24):
I don't know, Smart, No, Jim Harbon, no Urban Meyer, No,
who called their own play Steve Spurrier, that would baby
be the only one I can.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Think of was Harbond not calling plays from Michigan two
years ago?
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Oh of course he wasn't call his own plays. He
never had Okay, Well that's that's my point. The guy
who called the head coach who calls his own offensive plays,
that doesn't. I mean, look at the difference between Lincoln
Riley under Lincoln Riley and Lincoln Riley under Bob Stoops.
You know somebody looks over and says, no, you're not
going to do that the head coach. To these offensive
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coordinator types who calls their own plays that have won
a championship, I don't know. Pete Carroll medled into play
calling in the Super Bowl, messing with the offensive rhythm.
What happened to the city of Seattle. Well, I think
there's worse than the fire that created the underground.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
That's what it was.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
There's obvious war on the streets.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
There's obviously a difference between coming close to winning a
title and actually pushing it over the edge.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
But if Jedfish can find a way to get close
to winning a title, make the playoff, finish in the
top three or four in a Big Ten, after what
they inherited when Kaylin took off for Alabama, I think
that'll be looked at as a job well done.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Now I want to get made a better overall point
that you're in.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Oh no, yeah, okay, that's fair overall. Yes, you're talking.
We're talking two different topics here.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Well you asked me, well, why I don't have faith
in the program's ability to rise up and you know,
to where the fans expected.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
To get back to where they were underneath.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
I guess that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Okay, Well we'll ask Hugh Mellen what he thinks of
your your theory.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Okay, that's pure nonsense.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Next, all right, we'll get to that. You can hang
up and listen.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
You ask you what I say. I will hang up.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I'm going to playing in Miami. I'm going to ask him.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I'm going to ask him next on ninety three to
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Speaker 1 (28:34):
All right, I gotta just pull a just audible here
for a second here, okay, just real quick, because I
want to get you to respond to what Petro said
there about college coaches calling their own plays and all
that and blah blah blah, and I swear to God
this is true, Jackson. When is your birthday? By the way,
when's your birthday?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Jackson?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Today is Jackson's birthday? I kid you not.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I was sitting in my kitchen this morning thinking to myself,
I need to remember when Jackson's birthday is so I
don't miss it.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I'm not kidding you now.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Subconsciously, did I see your birthday on some calendar somewhere
all right? And it just leaked into my brain Like
you've seen the movie Focused, by the way, with Will
Smith with a number fifty five, right, I had that
thought this morning, you that I gotta remember Jackson's birthday.
And it's freaking today. It's today, So happy birthday, Jackson felts.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
By the way, what is it? Thirty one, thirty two, three,
thirty three? Holy moly, do you remember thirty three?
Speaker 5 (29:42):
What was your completion percentage when you were thirty three? Oh,
it's probably like sixty.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
I thought.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I thought he was gonna say, was your completion percentage lower?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Higher than thirty three.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I wouldn't do that to you. I thought that's the
road you were going down. Well, happy birthday, Jackson, I
did not get you anything, but I will use some money.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
How's that sound?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
All right, hey Hugh before we get to Larry Stone
next segment. Great time to have him on after the
Mariners win again in Sacramento. I hope you caught the
end of what Petro said there about his theory on
college coaches that call their own offensive plays. But in
case you didn't, here's a small little snippet for you.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
Am I not when was the last coach that called
his own plays that won a championship?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
But where win? Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Smart, No Jim Harbon, no Urban Meyer, No, who called
their own play? Steve Spurrier, that would maybe be the
only one I can think of.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Okay, So he says coaches that call their own offensive
plays give themselves the ability to do something stupid if
they're calling their own offensive plays. And he mentioned Steve
Starkejian obviously last year late in the game was.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
At Ohio State. I believe it was Ohio State, right,
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I mean, he's he's not as confident in fish turning
this thing around because he says he calls his own plays.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Is that a concern for you, Well, I think it's
an interesting proposition. First of all, you can just take
the numbers, and I mean he's mostly right. You just
kind of look through the list, and it may be
Spurrier who won one in in two thousand and eight
with Florida, and I believe probably ninety six with Florida,
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but you know it's been few and far between. I
would say this. First of all, he leaves himself open
when he says, well, you know you just can do
something stupid. Well, what define stupid? Stupid could mean anything
that prevents you from winning the game, right, And and
so if you're talking about national champions, he's right that
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you don't see play callers who are on that list. Now,
sarkis For Sarkisian's sake, I will say, when he was
at Alabama, the two best play callers that I've seen
maybe in the last thirty forty years, they happened to
be strung really close together. Twenty nineteen, guy named Steve
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Ensminger for LSU. You say, well, he had Joe Burrowy,
and he had Jamar Chase, and he had Justin Jefferson,
and he had Clyde Edwards. Hillel Okay. Point taken, But
if you look at the numbers that those guys were
putting up, it was just silly. They went to an
empty and they were just so beautifully coached. And then
the other one was Sarkesian when he had Mac Jones
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and DeVante Smith and what have you. I mean, I've
never seen a play caller as white hot as those
two guys. I think it takes, you know, to talk
about quality of play calling. It takes every bit of
football knowledge that I have a mass for me to
feel like I can be remotely, remotely competent assessing a
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play caller, because if the thought is, well, if the
offense is good, he must be a good play caller,
and if the offense is poor, he must be a
play poor play caller. Well, there's there's some correlation to that,
but I specifically think that when things are just average
or maybe slightly below average, to just say, well, the
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offensive coordinators and go eh, yeah, hold on now, and
so uh ill. My final thought on the subject is
this is probably for different reasons than him. I would
say it takes so much of an offensive coordinator's energy
all throughout the week to study and study and study
for the defense and and have a mindset of Okay,
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this is how I'm gonna attack, here's my backup plan,
here's you know, you know, layers deep where you go
into that game and your focus is entirely how am
I going to beat this defense? Head coaches, they just
have more to think about. They've got their their their
speech and all the things and and and running the enterprise, right,
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and so they're just they're spread more thin. And even
even Steve Starkey that last that drive again when Washington
played Texas, his play calling down at the red zone, right,
I remember just going, dude, that is really uncreative plays
down there, and they had about six bites at the
Apple Husky's played great defense. Call it what you want,
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But I think Sarkisan, probably by his own standards, the
type of place he was calling at Alabama when he
was the play caller, we're just a lot more creative.
So I think there's a lot of truth to what
Petus says. I would mostly say he's right.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I remember complimenting Steve Starkesian during that Ohio State game
about halfway through three quarters of the way through whatever,
maybe two fifths of the way through where I thought
he looked pretty damn good for a while against Ohio
State and then things kind of fell apart, and you
kind of wonder, you know, why not run the ball
late in the game if you're stark? And I was
kind of, you know, referencing the was it the power
(34:54):
play against Cal on the final play of the game,
Hugh down there in Berkeley with Chris Paul, Remember that play? Yeah,
God loves the power right whatever? And it's like, man,
did you not learn from your previous successes? And maybe
there is something to it where it's just too much
on a guy's plate. I will say this about Jedfish though,
and I'm not saying that he's as invested in the
program as any head coach in the history of college football.
(35:18):
I don't know if I've heard a head coach talk
about every aspect of the program the way he does.
For example, like the spring game, right, I mean, Jed's
gone out of his way to hammer the spring game.
We want to do this, we want twenty thousand people,
blah blah blah. And that's just one small example. I
don't remember Peterson or de Boor, and I certainly don't
remember Don James or Jim Lambright, Keith Giebertson doing that. So,
(35:42):
I mean, I just feel like there's no aspect of
the football program, if you will, Hugh, that Jedfish has
not talked about publicly, and I think that's unique.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
And I've seen coaches that try and do that and
they spread themselves really thin. I said from day one
of Jed Fish is two things. He's really intelligent and
he's really hard working. But there's a limit. And I'll
just say, uh, two things come to mind on the
on the topic, there's the Washington State the last play
of the Apple Cup, right, and I'm not against a
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speed option into the boundary. I just don't like it
from that formation. And we're not going to rehash all that.
So I thought, in its totality, everything about that play
was a disaster, but not what for the reasons Ninety
nine percent of people criticized that play? Gotcha? And and
then I thought he got his ass handed to him
(36:38):
At Penn State. I mean, you had you had a
defensive coordinator, uh in his first year by the name
of Tom Allen who went on to take the Clemson
the same position. He's one and done. Took the Clemson
job for I don't know what reasons.
Speaker 9 (36:52):
But.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
But uh, but but you had Jed Fish just totally
almost non responsive to the pressure package that Penn State
had and it was just kind of deer in the headlights,
like whoa. I just thought he was very slow to
make adjustments. Now, is that because he's the head coach
and not the OC. It's a fair question. Let's get
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a break, Larry Stone. Are the Mariners for real? That's
a fair question. We'll ask him next on ninety three
three KJRFF
All right, Petros Papadacus being a high maintenance you know what,
has to readjust the schedule. He'll join us in about
fifteen minutes from now at four to twenty on the
radio show Larry Stone.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Great day to have Larry on.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
By the way, he was all the Mariner yaking going
on here on the radio station that's at five o'clock
courtesy of the RAM. But I don't know, I mean,
I just think there's a lot of narratives around the
baseball team right now. You know, is Dan Wilson going
to be the runaway manager of the year in the
American League? Is Jerry Depoto going to be the executive
of the year in Major League Baseball?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We're gonna have to all bend over and kiss his ass.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Offensive team tell us telling.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Me he was right, man, because he's I mean, Jerry
to Pono actually was wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
You have a good offensive team.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
They don't have a good offensive team. They have a
great offensive team.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
The Mariners are on pace to be second in baseball
and one scored compared to where they would have been
a year ago. Cal Rowley's playing like an MVP. Horay
Polanco is playing like an MVP Rowdy t Lez was
gonna be hitting a scrap heap about three weeks ago,
and ever since that comeback against the Astros, the guy's
got an eight sixty three oh ps. So Jerry doesn't
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know what he's talking about. This is a great offensive team. Well,
and Julio, he got a couple of hits today.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I think he's hitting over three hundred this week, so
maybe he's starting to heat up a little bit. He
was in the three hole today and then but I
also think you know now who gave up the five
runs in the first four innings, but he pitched two
so he from that point on down five to nothing.
(01:38):
After four, he gives you two scoreless innings. Bizardo, he
gives you one point one, right, fire gives you two outs,
and Munos he gave up a hit, but he got
got two more k's, and so from that point on, yeah,
the offense had to do its thing. But five out
of the innings were shut out by all four of
(02:02):
those pitchers combined. So so I don't know, just they
just seem to be playing more synergetic baseball right than
they had been.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
You know, when one side needs to lift the other
ones providing it more than they had. You know, that
seemed like that was the curse of them last year.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, I'm just going back to what you're saying about Julio.
What was his stat line again today? You got that
right in front. I got two for five, two for
five today. Oh but there both singles. Yeah, that's fine,
two for five. He had the home run yesterday. So
I'm looking at Julio on the road trip, starting with
the first game against Texas. So if he was two
for five today, eight for twenty four so far on
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the trip, he was hitting three sixteen or a ten
forty one ops coming into today on the road trip.
So yeah, Julio's kind of turned things around. I mean again,
you know, you you look at all the kinds of
different analytics, and you know, his hard hit rate, things
like that, his exit v LO things like that, and
people will tell you that Julio Rodriguez is actually having
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maybe a better start than he did a year ago.
But he's hitting three thirty three on the road trip,
and it seems like kind of ever since going back
to that Marlins game on the twenty sixth of April,
So we're talking, you know what a week and a
half ago, the guy's got an ops over nine hundred
with three home runs and seven ribis.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I mean, he is really starting to kind of turn
things around.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And look, if they get the pitching even remotely close
to healthy and what they were getting a year ago,
and they get Julio to continue on this path and
start maybe delivering with some power, there's no limit to.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
What this baseball team can do.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And I mean all of us were sitting here Jackson included, saying, Hey,
if there's any confidence about the baseball team in twenty
twenty five, a big reason for it is because the
division's freaking terrible. Well, the Mariners don't need a bad
division because they're on pace to win ninety nine games Jackson,
right now, it's amazing.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, And honestly, you do the whole kind of math
earlier about the last twenty three games. I mean, they're
not going to go on on one hundred and twenty
game win pace the entire season, right They're not.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
But I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
If it takes a ninety five win pace at this point.
I mean, like, listen, I think we're seeing that there
are teams that you know, Houston, Okay, in Texas. How
good is Brett Boon gonna be for them? Will actually
see you know, jokes aside, But I don't think the
Mariners need to worry about necessarily winning a full ninety
five game schedule to win pace to actually take this division.
(04:33):
If you can just continue to ride with what you've
been writing with, get the pitching back, knowing that the
hitting will drop off a little bit, we're gonna be.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Okay, Hugh, I want you to run your little Dirk
machine there, boy. I want you to tell us where
we are in the NFL season. Okay, Oh, they've played
thirty six games so far. There's one hundred and twenty
six games left. And while you're doing that, there's a
reason why I bring it up, because I think we
get to a point in the NFL season where a
team could be like four and oher or five and
(05:00):
one or whatever. You start thinking, oh, man, we're we're
kind of getting close to the halfway point here a
little bit. Do we start talking about maybe challenging for
that number one seed right in the NFC? And I
don't know if this is now the time to do that.
I mean, it's not even Memorial Day, for God's sake,
since the seventh of May. Do we at twenty two
and fourteen, playing six eleven ball and the Mariners on
(05:23):
pace to win ninety nine games? When do we start
to have that conversation? Because somebody will inevitably say, well,
the man at you jokers bring that stuff up on
the airs a minute. They pissed their pants and they
fall apart, right like they had a ten game lead
last year.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
They pissed their pants and they fell apart.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
But does this seem more sustainable than what happened last year?
And I don't even mean what Jackson just said there,
you know, one hundred and twenty win pace second offense
in baseball. The offense eventually has got to cool down.
But does this seem hugh a little more sustainable because
you're getting it from ten, eleven, twelve different players every
(05:59):
single week? It seems like versus just five guys in
your rotation.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, I would say obviously. The first thing comes to
mind is is I don't think Polanco is gonna be
a three fifty hitter and and ops eleven hundred.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Based on what, based on what? Because he's never done it.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Okay, guys, so that would be one you know, Tavaris
is hitting two forty one Rowdy tell us seems you know,
he's two to eight, but it seems like he's had
some clutch contributions. Dylan Moore, he's probably playing a little
better than then we would have thought. Right, So I
(06:37):
think that there are some guy you know, and and
JP Crawford is just kind of reverting back to twenty
twenty three form, right, He's basically mirroring that, so he's
done it before. So I would say the offense is
maybe a little bit overachieving. But you know, we can
expect Julio to you know, because he always comes on
(06:59):
and it will whatever whatever it is that causes him
to have a slow start. But maybe you just ran
some numbers there, maybe you start to think, could he
break break out of the slump?
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I don't know if you can be in a slump
to start a season, but you know what I mean,
you know, So, so I would say I don't think
that the offense is going to keep up this pace right, right?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
But remember they don't remember they just because you mentioned Tavarius,
I remember they did. They just grabbed him off waivers
from the Rangers. So today was his first game. So
everything he did up until today was with Texas and
they let him walk. I mean he's a guy that
started or excuse me, played one hundred and fifty one
games for a for a for a you know, world
championship team two years ago, one hundred and forty three
and then one hundred and fifty one games last year
(07:43):
when they kind of fell apart. So, I mean, Leoni
Tavarus at some point was looked at as a pretty
young good ones started centerfielder for a world Seriously, he
gets waived and the Mariners pick him up. So I mean, look,
his first game here today great so far, but it's
only one game.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
But but for what he's been do, yeah, point, But
I would say, you know, also we talked about the
pitchers a little bit. It's only one walk given up
the whole game. That was by Wu and so so
the three guys out of the bullpen, I mean, you know,
that's that's oftentimes when you say when when's the bullpen?
When are they failing? Well, often you just you say, well,
(08:19):
there's a few critical walks and all of a sudden you're,
you know, one hit and you lose a ball game.
But I don't know, I just I think that they're
playing above themselves that this pace. I don't believe they're
going to keep this up. Yeah, right, right, But I
don't have to though, That's the thing. They don't have
to They can they win ninety two? Can they win
ninety one? How can they win ninety I said ninety
(08:40):
five paces? I think that that was more than enough.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Well, and again, you know, the the Mariners offense, just
to reiterate, they're on a pace right now. Runs scored wise,
that would have been number two in baseball a year ago.
So to go from twenty first to second, I mean
they may as well just give Jerry to Poto the
Executive of the Year and engrave his freaking name out
on that thing right now if they get to that point.
(09:02):
But they don't need to be second in baseball? Can
they be tenth in baseball? Can they be eleventh in baseball?
Can they make a you know, a fifty five percent
jump from.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Where they were a year ago?
Speaker 5 (09:13):
This is kind of crazy that it feels like they've
had really good starts before, right, this is the best
start through May seven and so three. Yeah, I mean,
like this is this is reason twenty two years this
is reason to be hyped, if nothing else.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
So they were nineteen and sixteen last year, they were
seventeen and eighteen and twenty three, and they were sixteen
and nineteen in twenty twenty two. So now they're after
their best start in twenty two years. Meaning literally somebody
who is I don't know how old do you have
to be to have your first sports memory. Dick and
I have this conversation all the time. Dick remembers coming
out of the womb. By the way, it's incredible, Okay,
So I mean, let's just five years old. Let's just
(09:49):
say you're five years old, right or four or five?
I mean you've never seen this after the first twenty whatever,
thirty whatever games of the year.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
No, incredible, wow, incredible. By the way, answer your question. Football,
we are in game four, okay, it's the fourth quarter, okay,
and there's thirteen twenty remaining in the game.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
All right, perfect, So we're so we're probably like what
on its game four year, two and one. You're about
to be three and one and three and one. I
think people start to get a little bit fired up
in three in one, all right. Petros Papadaka is gonna join.
He's gonna change the schedule because he is an important guy. Uh,
we wait for him, he doesn't wait for us. Petros
will join next on ninety three three kJ RFM.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
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Alrighty, boys and girls, there we go more with Hume
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Speaker 4 (12:08):
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Speaker 1 (12:11):
Sweet James dot Hugh Mellen is on the show today.
Dick is on vacation.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yes, it's true. This man has no Dick.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Oh where'd he go?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
He's coming home from Florida with his family.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I believe they went to a wedding and they just
thought they'd make a vacation out of it.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Well that's cool, Yeah right, yeah, I'm doing okay. I've
read a few books about Florida over the years, a
lot of books about Florida.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
As a matter of fact, have you not been to Florida? Well,
I've been to Miami.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
That's not really Florida though, right, yeah, I haven't really well,
I played a.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Game in ninety eight at Florida State when they were
really good.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Okay, yeah, you're.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Warwick and Chris Wanky, so that was kind of really
my first experience.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I believe it's pronounced winky by the way, not wanky
like wanker.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Right, Well, i'd been to I've been to Florida a
few times, but the books I read I started reading
a detective series many years ago that started like in
the sixties, late sixties, maybe seventies, and it went on
for a long time. A guy named John McDonald wrote
a detective series with the detective named Travis McGee. Okay,
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not really a detective, more of like a marine salvage guy.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
You know. Well, it works like this.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Let's say somebody stole a bunch something from you and
you cannot legally get it back. You would hire Travis
McGee to get it and then he keeps.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Half kind of like the A team.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
If you have a problem so no one else can help,
and if you can find him, you can hire Travis McGee.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
But a guy that lives on a houseboat gun in
Fort Lauderdale at buthe Amar so that's that was the
one series I started reading and then I finished. I
read all of those books, and I was calling a
football game with Chris Myers, right.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
And you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that guy.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
And Chris Myers. The guys that are his spotter and
stat guy are famously called the Sunshine Boys, ah, because
they're from West Florida. And I mentioned one of the
Sunshine Boys the Travis McGee series.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I like, yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
And then he got me onto the Randy Wayne White
book series of the dock Ford series, which is a
West West Florida Sannabel Island book series, and that's dock Ford,
who's more like a clandestine government agent slash marine biologist.
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And those are very good books. There's there's a lot
of them. Actually, he's still writing that series, and I've
been enjoying that and learning all about places like Sannabel
Island and Captiva Island and Fort Myers, Florida. They all
seem very interesting in the book and then of course
in the books, and then tarp and Springs, Florida is
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the largest Greek population outside of Greece.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
You don't say you not?
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Yeah, interesting, sponge divers, real goat efforts.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I I I really do wish I had the patience
to read more books.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Man, I just I can't do it.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Yeah, because you're you just want to sit there and
scream and yell and tweet about the Marinas and drink
girl drinks.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
What do you mean girl drinks?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
You know, like vodka soda or whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
What's wrong with vodka soda? Little Tito's soda. Only chicks
drink Tito's soda. What should I be drinking beer?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
And Bob Stoops drinks cranberry?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
So should I be drinking beer?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
No, I'm not whiskey scout. You should do whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Well, I like a lot of other drinks, but my
go to do you know why? My go to is
Tito's Soda with a splash of cranberry, although now it's
a sidecar a cranberry because the bartender is always messing up,
by the way, but way too much cranberry juice. If
I wanted cranberry, I just say cranberry vodka. No, I
want a Tito Soda with a splash of cranberry.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Why I do that? By the way, why do you
think I do that?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I don't know, because you're which is fine.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Oh my god, it's because I want to eat and
drink a little healthier, cut out the sugar, and don't
ever want to go back to the fat ass that
I was when I first met you.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
You were hefty, man.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Okay, Well, Hugh Millan, you know I carrid a little
extra weight.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Worse.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, Hugh melon once told me that my body looks
like a container for other bodies.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Wow, And that was the day I said I've had
enough the.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Old Ray Ratto look, the bean bag body and the
bulling ballhead.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Because that really cut me deep when he said that. Man, hey,
have we have we spoken? By the way, since Lebron
and the Lakers got eliminated from the playoffs, oh boy,
that had to be a fun night at your house.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Well it's kind of interesting because all the stuff that
everybody said that was negative came true.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Right. JJ.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
Reddick was inexperienced and did get exposed. It took a while,
and you have to give him credit. They captured the
three seeds three seed and that was pretty good. And
they had a nice run after, like a linsanityesque run
right after the Luca trade when he got healthy again
and started playing that was pretty exciting in LA. But
(17:37):
when it was all said and done, jj Reddick look inexperience,
Lebron looked old, and Luca looked fat. Yeah, right, all
three of those things. And then the other thing. They
didn't have a big guy, and that was very glaringly
obvious with the way Rudy Gobert, a screaming Frenchman, was
treating him. I haven't seen so much French screaming since
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I saw Lima rob so.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Well, they had one. His name was Anthony Davis.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Yeah, they had him, and then they tried to trade
for that other guy, Williams. Yeah, and they backed out of
that trade physical right. Somebody said something on ESPN I
thought was interesting. They said, even if he got that
guy from Charlotte, who knows if he even would have
played him. I mean, jj Reddick kind of looked like
an air raid coach in the playoffs, playing people a
whole doing stuff that no one's ever done before, playing
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a forty year old and a fat guy the entire
second half, and then wondering why they ran out of
gas and being like.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Well we took the lead, we were closed.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
That's that's such an air raid thing, you know, it's like, hey,
you guys lost by one. Yeah, but you see, we
just missed that deep pass. I mean, was just that
we were closed. It's like, what excuse me?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
The greatest quarterback maybe in the history of the NFL
did come from an air raid system, but there's.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
No doubt about it. But he don't run one now.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
No, and no one really saw his true brilliant and
since a quarterback because of the system he came from.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Including me, And who's more brilliant than me?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Nobody?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Uh, I'm still making my point. I'm sorry. All of
it was true.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Lebron meglomaniac, old, washed up Luca fat but the future
JJ Reddick, insufferable and inexperience, Bronnie James, Yeah, not an
NBA player. All of those things came out in the
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wash when it was all said and done, and those
were all things that the critical people were saying as
we as we marched toward the inevitable Laker elimination.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
So so Lebron's done, right, He's finished?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
I mean, he's got another year, they got it, he's
gonna player option and they're gonna have to pay him
another fifty million.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
But Bronny's got to be done though, right at least
why I don't.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Know, you know, I mean he's still and complete control
of the franchise. I guess I mean Luca maybe not.
Maybe that's not exactly true because Luka Doncic is there,
and maybe he doesn't want to be the number two
to Luka Doncic, which he kind of is just just
by nature of the ages of the two players. Maybe
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he doesn't want to do that, So maybe he does
force a trade or wave whatever it is, or or retire.
I have no idea, but whatever he does, he'll do
it soon, and he'll do it to bring attention to himself.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Hey, two things I know I do want to talk
to you about.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I love living on the lebron calendar.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
He's getting nailed by the king right well, every waxing
and waning moon.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I know that you were you were slightly aroused after
they got eliminated in the first round, so I'm I'm
I'm happy for you.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I know that you were very, very afraid of them
making a run.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I don't root for anybody, Yeah, but you're root against
a lot of things though You're right, you're really at
the same time you know what, the same time, there
is like a feeling of the of the abyss. Yeah,
you know, because the Clippers were out in a moment,
the Lakers were out before that, the Kings were out
in a moment. And now, I mean not that I'm
going to talk about all those things incessantly, but it's
a pretty big tasm between all that stuff and the
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start of the football season. But we have the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Yeah, yeah, they're doing well, doing well.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
They're doing okay, what.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Do you mean they're doing okay? They're like twenty five
and twelve.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
They're beat up there. Yes, they have a good record.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Don't they have the best record in baseball?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I think they do.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
The Mets are pretty good too, They're very good. But yeah,
the Dodgers are interesting to watch. I mean they a
lot of injuries. Ti Oscar Hernandez went out with a
pulled hammy. That's a big problem, and not a lot
of starting pitching. Snell Seattle guy is on the IL,
and Tyler Glass now who is never healthy, is on
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the the IL. And Kershaw isn't back yet even though
he's like a thousand years old, and so it goes.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, best record in baseball pal twenty four and twelve.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
All right, don't call me pal, you I don't like.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
It before today's game bub.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
All right, I'm just saying, yeah, and if they're really
really good, I mean, there's not that much to talk about.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Hey, did you happen to flip on the Big ten
network on Friday and see your boy Yogi roth yapping
about the Huskies and the spring game on Friday? You know,
Jed Fish really got behind it, the entire spring game thing,
and thank you, it's kind of paid off a little bit.
They had like twenty thousand people there, which for you,
Dub is good. It's on a Friday night. They had
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Corgi races. It was fun.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
That's something to do. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
No, how did that quarterback who's probably going to disappoint you?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Look Demond?
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Why would he? Why would he? Why would he? Probably
that's French for the Mond by the way. Why would
he disappoint? Because the expectations are stupidations are quite high.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
What are my expectations?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
I think their expectation they're like uh aiden childs ask Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I mean I'm not the one saying he's gonna go
to that. We're talking about New York and the Heisman.
You know who's been saying that, Jed Fish has been
saying that.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Yeah, that's not why he said.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
It a year ago when he was backing up Will Rogers.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Okay, when he was at number two? All right, jad insane?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, never heard that such a thing from a coach.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Just juggled Jaden Delora and Fafita. Yeah right, I don't know.
I mean, I hope he has a great year. I
hope that Washington football has a year comparable.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
To the Deboor years. But I just don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
I mean, obviously there's a lot of depletion and in
a huge seismic sea change when when your coach left
for Alabama and you hired somebody else and ever since then,
I don't know if it's a search for identity or
just kind of a shrug of the shoulders, but I'll
be surprised if Washington is dominated again nder Jetfish.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Wow?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Like ever, I don't know, Okay, well maybe maybe, I
mean the guy, look, the guy rebuilt Arizona. Right, does
that mean he can drive the Seattle ship into the harbor,
which has a lot of expectation?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Well, why can he I mean there's more teams in
the playoff now than there was before. If he took
a one win team to eleven wins, why can't he
do the same thing at Washington with better resources?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, and better talent?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I mean, what is your problem with Jetfish?
Speaker 4 (24:31):
I don't have a problem.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I think you do.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
No, it's just a I always am reticent about head
coaches that call their own offensive play.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Oh, okay, it's.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Always to me it's I mean, Sark has had a
lot of success at Texas, and he's made a lot
of money at Texas, and he's they have a lot
of money at Texas. But still, when it comes down
to it in the championship game, there's something about Sark
calling his own plays. There's there's that moment there wow,
And I know you recognize it because you covered the
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guy so closely, right, Like, am I wrong? Am I
making this up? There's just something about Kiffin does it,
Lincoln Riley does it, And to me, it's a it's
an overall philosophy of football. If your head coach is
calling offensive plays, there is a little there's a little
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chirping bird in the back of his head telling him
to do something stupid, telling him, well, it's just it's
just what it is.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Got to hang on a second, though, because you're telling
me and maybe it's all relative. And I get that
that Steve Sarkisian got to the Final four two years
in a row and then because of his own play
calling getting in the way of his brain working properly.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
There's always chef fish makes the damn final.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Or yeah we'll be thrilled.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Well that's fine, But sarkedn't make any final anything when
he was at Washington.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
And those were the resources that he had then. And
then he goes to Texas. That's different. Yeah, okay, totally different.
It was.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
It was coming off twelve seasons.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Well whatever, it is the same guy on the same program. Buddy, Hey,
look at am. I not when was the last coach
that called his own plays that.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Won a championship?
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Uh? Where?
Speaker 4 (26:23):
When? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (26:24):
I don't know, Smart, No, Jim Harbon, no Urban Meyer, No,
who called their own play Steve Spurrier, that would baby
be the only one I can.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Think of was Harbond not calling plays from Michigan two
years ago?
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Oh of course he wasn't call his own plays. He
never had Okay, Well that's that's my point. The guy
who called the head coach who calls his own offensive plays,
that doesn't. I mean, look at the difference between Lincoln
Riley under Lincoln Riley and Lincoln Riley under Bob Stoops.
You know somebody looks over and says, no, you're not
going to do that the head coach. To these offensive
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coordinator types who calls their own plays that have won
a championship, I don't know. Pete Carroll medled into play
calling in the Super Bowl, messing with the offensive rhythm.
What happened to the city of Seattle. Well, I think
there's worse than the fire that created the underground.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
That's what it was.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
There's obvious war on the streets.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
There's obviously a difference between coming close to winning a
title and actually pushing it over the edge.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
But if Jedfish can find a way to get close
to winning a title, make the playoff, finish in the
top three or four in a Big Ten, after what
they inherited when Kaylin took off for Alabama, I think
that'll be looked at as a job well done.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Now I want to get made a better overall point
that you're in.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Oh no, yeah, okay, that's fair overall. Yes, you're talking.
We're talking two different topics here.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Well you asked me, well, why I don't have faith
in the program's ability to rise up and you know,
to where the fans expected.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
To get back to where they were underneath.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
I guess that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Okay, Well we'll ask Hugh Mellen what he thinks of
your your theory.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Okay, that's pure nonsense.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Next, all right, we'll get to that. You can hang
up and listen.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
You ask you what I say. I will hang up.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I'm going to playing in Miami. I'm going to ask him.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I'm going to ask him next on ninety three to
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Speaker 1 (28:34):
All right, I gotta just pull a just audible here
for a second here, okay, just real quick, because I
want to get you to respond to what Petro said
there about college coaches calling their own plays and all
that and blah blah blah, and I swear to God
this is true, Jackson. When is your birthday? By the way,
when's your birthday?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Jackson?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Today is Jackson's birthday? I kid you not.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I was sitting in my kitchen this morning thinking to myself,
I need to remember when Jackson's birthday is so I
don't miss it.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I'm not kidding you now.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Subconsciously, did I see your birthday on some calendar somewhere
all right? And it just leaked into my brain Like
you've seen the movie Focused, by the way, with Will
Smith with a number fifty five, right, I had that
thought this morning, you that I gotta remember Jackson's birthday.
And it's freaking today. It's today, So happy birthday, Jackson felts.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
By the way, what is it? Thirty one, thirty two, three,
thirty three? Holy moly, do you remember thirty three?
Speaker 5 (29:42):
What was your completion percentage when you were thirty three? Oh,
it's probably like sixty.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
I thought.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I thought he was gonna say, was your completion percentage lower?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Higher than thirty three.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I wouldn't do that to you. I thought that's the
road you were going down. Well, happy birthday, Jackson, I
did not get you anything, but I will use some money.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
How's that sound?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
All right, hey Hugh before we get to Larry Stone
next segment. Great time to have him on after the
Mariners win again in Sacramento. I hope you caught the
end of what Petro said there about his theory on
college coaches that call their own offensive plays. But in
case you didn't, here's a small little snippet for you.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
Am I not when was the last coach that called
his own plays that won a championship?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
But where win? Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Smart, No Jim Harbon, no Urban Meyer, No, who called
their own play? Steve Spurrier, that would maybe be the
only one I can think of.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Okay, So he says coaches that call their own offensive
plays give themselves the ability to do something stupid if
they're calling their own offensive plays. And he mentioned Steve
Starkejian obviously last year late in the game was.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
At Ohio State. I believe it was Ohio State, right,
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I mean, he's he's not as confident in fish turning
this thing around because he says he calls his own plays.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Is that a concern for you, Well, I think it's
an interesting proposition. First of all, you can just take
the numbers, and I mean he's mostly right. You just
kind of look through the list, and it may be
Spurrier who won one in in two thousand and eight
with Florida, and I believe probably ninety six with Florida,
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but you know it's been few and far between. I
would say this. First of all, he leaves himself open
when he says, well, you know you just can do
something stupid. Well, what define stupid? Stupid could mean anything
that prevents you from winning the game, right, And and
so if you're talking about national champions, he's right that
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you don't see play callers who are on that list. Now,
sarkis For Sarkisian's sake, I will say, when he was
at Alabama, the two best play callers that I've seen
maybe in the last thirty forty years, they happened to
be strung really close together. Twenty nineteen, guy named Steve
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Ensminger for LSU. You say, well, he had Joe Burrowy,
and he had Jamar Chase, and he had Justin Jefferson,
and he had Clyde Edwards. Hillel Okay. Point taken, But
if you look at the numbers that those guys were
putting up, it was just silly. They went to an
empty and they were just so beautifully coached. And then
the other one was Sarkesian when he had Mac Jones
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and DeVante Smith and what have you. I mean, I've
never seen a play caller as white hot as those
two guys. I think it takes, you know, to talk
about quality of play calling. It takes every bit of
football knowledge that I have a mass for me to
feel like I can be remotely, remotely competent assessing a
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play caller, because if the thought is, well, if the
offense is good, he must be a good play caller,
and if the offense is poor, he must be a
play poor play caller. Well, there's there's some correlation to that,
but I specifically think that when things are just average
or maybe slightly below average, to just say, well, the
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offensive coordinators and go eh, yeah, hold on now, and
so uh ill. My final thought on the subject is
this is probably for different reasons than him. I would
say it takes so much of an offensive coordinator's energy
all throughout the week to study and study and study
for the defense and and have a mindset of Okay,
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this is how I'm gonna attack, here's my backup plan,
here's you know, you know, layers deep where you go
into that game and your focus is entirely how am
I going to beat this defense? Head coaches, they just
have more to think about. They've got their their their
speech and all the things and and and running the enterprise, right,
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and so they're just they're spread more thin. And even
even Steve Starkey that last that drive again when Washington
played Texas, his play calling down at the red zone, right,
I remember just going, dude, that is really uncreative plays
down there, and they had about six bites at the
Apple Husky's played great defense. Call it what you want,
(34:17):
But I think Sarkisan, probably by his own standards, the
type of place he was calling at Alabama when he
was the play caller, we're just a lot more creative.
So I think there's a lot of truth to what
Petus says. I would mostly say he's right.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I remember complimenting Steve Starkesian during that Ohio State game
about halfway through three quarters of the way through whatever,
maybe two fifths of the way through where I thought
he looked pretty damn good for a while against Ohio
State and then things kind of fell apart, and you
kind of wonder, you know, why not run the ball
late in the game if you're stark? And I was
kind of, you know, referencing the was it the power
(34:54):
play against Cal on the final play of the game,
Hugh down there in Berkeley with Chris Paul, Remember that play? Yeah,
God loves the power right whatever? And it's like, man,
did you not learn from your previous successes? And maybe
there is something to it where it's just too much
on a guy's plate. I will say this about Jedfish though,
and I'm not saying that he's as invested in the
program as any head coach in the history of college football.
(35:18):
I don't know if I've heard a head coach talk
about every aspect of the program the way he does.
For example, like the spring game, right, I mean, Jed's
gone out of his way to hammer the spring game.
We want to do this, we want twenty thousand people,
blah blah blah. And that's just one small example. I
don't remember Peterson or de Boor, and I certainly don't
remember Don James or Jim Lambright, Keith Giebertson doing that. So,
(35:42):
I mean, I just feel like there's no aspect of
the football program, if you will, Hugh, that Jedfish has
not talked about publicly, and I think that's unique.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
And I've seen coaches that try and do that and
they spread themselves really thin. I said from day one
of Jed Fish is two things. He's really intelligent and
he's really hard working. But there's a limit. And I'll
just say, uh, two things come to mind on the
on the topic, there's the Washington State the last play
of the Apple Cup, right, and I'm not against a
(36:18):
speed option into the boundary. I just don't like it
from that formation. And we're not going to rehash all that.
So I thought, in its totality, everything about that play
was a disaster, but not what for the reasons Ninety
nine percent of people criticized that play? Gotcha? And and
then I thought he got his ass handed to him
(36:38):
At Penn State. I mean, you had you had a
defensive coordinator, uh in his first year by the name
of Tom Allen who went on to take the Clemson
the same position. He's one and done. Took the Clemson
job for I don't know what reasons.
Speaker 9 (36:52):
But.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
But uh, but but you had Jed Fish just totally
almost non responsive to the pressure package that Penn State
had and it was just kind of deer in the headlights,
like whoa. I just thought he was very slow to
make adjustments. Now, is that because he's the head coach
and not the OC. It's a fair question. Let's get
(37:16):
a break, Larry Stone. Are the Mariners for real? That's
a fair question. We'll ask him next on ninety three
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