May 8, 2025 • 38 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Kevin Calabro about the hopeful return of the Sonics to Seattle soon plus the ongoing NBA playoffs including who can take down Oklahoma City, then the guys discuss the most important people with Huskies football throughout history plus the Mariners and their offensive numbers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
Won't go home over, good old. They're waiting in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Here they come with the ninety eighty six minu of
the dass in the seventh game of the Western Conference Finals.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Good lord, thirty years ago, next summer.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Unbelievable that Kevin Collaboro was on the air at the
age of fourteen years old calling that conference finals for
this radio station. And he joins us right now on
the air, casey, how are you man?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm doing well, guys, thanks for having me on the program.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well, it's great to hear your voice.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Thirty years is a long damn time, but it just
feels like yesterday. So why don't we kind of get
first of all, before we talk about what's happening right now.
The NBA playoffs have been obviously amazing, fantastic, ratings are great,
everybody loves it. But we are getting close, right it
feels like to the return of hearing more of that,
hopefully on this radio station. What does your confidence meeter
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feel like look like right now?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Well, I'll tell you, guys what I've been telling everybody
since two thousand and eight, and I believe I've been
pretty consistent because I've said this on your show. Sometime
in the next three years, there will be NBA basketball
in Seattle. I've been saying it since.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Eight and gosh darn it, I mean at this time right, well,
I think, Jason Casey, it does seem like all the
stumbling blocks have been picked up and put away.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Right Do you see any other potential stumbling blocks that
could move this further away than we think it will be.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Unless they don't want to go into Vegas before building
is built specifically for basketball. I don't think they want
to come in with thirty one teams. I think they
want to come with expansion with two teams in one year.
The same year, and they could of course play at
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Tea mobile in Vegas. But the NBA situation down in
Vegas hasn't really sorted out where they have to my
knowledge anyway, And I read the Vegas papers last week.
Looks like they're still trying to determine what piece of
ground they want to build on down there. They're not
certain who's going to build it. But you could play
at tea Mobile. Having said that, there'll be plenty of teams,
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plenty of capital, the five billion or whatever it's going
to take to get NBA basketball in Vegas, and I
think Seattle set as well. But you know, the NBA
is gonna have to do due diligence. They're going to
have to take a look at all the ownership groups.
The various groups are gonna come with different plans, different
presentations and so forth, and all that is a process.
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But to your point, yeah, I think all the stumbling
blocks it was the CBA, then it was the national contract,
that it was the salle of the Boston Celtics, which
I don't think quite has settled in yet, except that
they do have a number now yep. And you know,
but as long as Silver talks about going to Europe
and boy, Mexico City would be a great shot. You know,
you're always kind of trembling a little bit about the
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possibilities in the future. But I think it'll happen.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I mean, there's always that one percent of one percent
right that says we're gonna get hosed again until it
actually does happen. But Kevin collabora with us and Kevin
I was talking to a buddy of mine, excuse me,
who claims he has not watched the NBA basketball product
in seventeen years. And there are some people like that
that just gave up on this and have not really
gone back. But for those that maybe pay attention, or
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don't pay attention, or or just have not watched as
much to really get a feel, can you explain from
your perspective, when this thing does come back, how is
this league different? How is this product different from the
one that you think we saw seventeen years ago.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well, look, the style of offense, for one thing, just
really leaps out, you know, since the advent of Steve
Curry and some of the great deep shooters like Damian Lillard,
who we saw played for years in Portland and was phenomenal.
When you've got that kind of talent, and the league
is shooting an average at thirty six percent from three,
and they have discovered the math. As Rick Barry was
telling us on Sonic broadcasts in nineteen eighty seven, the
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math is simple, folks, thirty five percent from three, it's
fifty percent from two. What are you going to do?
Stand out there and take three? As it worked for
Boston last year. Now it's not working so well here
in the first couple of games. But the three is
the difference in the style, is my point. And so
I think at the time people talked about we need
to see more shooting, We need to see offensive players
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being able to get into space and really be themselves,
and let's see some more offense there instead of this
back down, grind it out work out of a double
team to Charles Barkley on the low block and so forth.
That's I think what was so spectacular about those Sonic
teams that have been nineties. I think if you were
to transport them to today's game, you'd have some terrific
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three point shooters on that team to go with the
great post up game of obviously Sean Kemp and Debt
lof you could invert with Sam Perkins. Percy Hawkins was
one of the great three point shooters without a question.
Nate McMillan, you know, late in his career with George
Carl coaching him, brought him out to that three point
line and he was more of a factor as was
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Gary Payton. So you know, if I were if I'm
going to try to bring fans back and say, look, offensively,
it's a different game now. We still have great stars,
we still have teams that play solid defense, and it
still is a very physical game, particularly when it comes
to play time, as you've seen already air in the
first couple of rounds.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Casey, how big do you think that vocal minority is
that Softy is talking about not just the people that
say I don't watch the NBA anymore, but also the
people there just that just rip on the NBA, like
the hell with them, I'm never gonna watch them again
based upon what they did. I mean, it seems to
me like I'd love to talk NBA every single day.
I would love to, but I also want to talk
about what people want to listen to. So how big
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is that minority of people that you think may or
may not come back to this team.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I have no idea. I gave up listening to vocal
minorities on Twitter and talk shows and so forth.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Come on, come on, man, don't do that.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Don't listen to them. Take joy and what you and
what you enjoy. If it's the NFL, go for it, baby.
If it's the Mariners, go for it. If it's the NBA,
you don't have to make up any excuses, you don't
have to apologize, and you I don't have to win
anybody over. I think. Look, the nights are dreary in Seattle,
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the nights are drury in Portland. They're dreary in the
Northwest from late October until early April. Sideways rain forty
five degrees. You know what I'm talking about, endless, endless
winter in the Northwest. I've been doing it since nineteen
eighty seven. I don't know what I would do if
I didn't have NBA basketball. A place to get in
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out of the rain, go to a hot arena, see
some hot people, a diverse crowd, all rooting, you know,
ten guys giving it everything. I get up and down
the floor. I'll tell you what I just think. People
once they get in that arena and experience MBA basketball again.
I think they're going to quickly realize, you know, what
they've been missing for the last eighteen nineteen years. It's
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been that way in the Northwest since I moved here
in eighty seven. I enjoy my time in Portland, but
I just think, man, this would be an endless winter
of forty five degrees sideless or sideways reign. Not a
whole lot to talk about if it weren't for NBA basketball, particularly,
you know, when you're in a one sport winter town
like we are in Portland.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Right Well, Kevin Collaboro obviously is with us on the air,
and you just stumbled upon the number one reason why
I want the NBA back to see hot people in
the arena.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
That's why. That's why I want to get them back.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You know I'm talking. I mean, you got the scream
at Trees, you got Metallica, you got Jeff a man
representing Pearl jam over there. Who if I missed you
know whoever's left in Nirvana? You know all those guys
and gals, they all show up. I love it.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Hey, are the are the Warriors done? Do they have
any prayer? Without Steph Curry starting tonight.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I think only because Minnesota, in my mind, is kind
of a sketchy crew. They turn the ball over a lot.
Uh Aunt Edwards has got to prove that he can
carry this team. I think they're gonna win this series.
But you know Steph's gonna be out for games two, three,
and four. It's a Grade one hamstring, and even then
you know you're not sure if he's coming back or not.
(09:02):
But I would not sleep on Jimmy Butler time in
Golden State because they're gonna run everything through Jimmy Butler.
But Jimski probably will run a little point, but everything
runs through Jimmy Butler, the passing and defense, certainly of
Draymond Green. I think Minnesota's gonna be tested. I think
it's like a six game series or so forth. But
I don't think Minnesota's got the kind of metal that
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it's going to take the beat ultimately the Western Conference champion,
the Oklahoma City thunder Man. That group, Oh my god,
they're deep, they're focused, they defend, they got an MVP
running the point. They're well coached. This is a very
good Oklahoma City team. And you know, I'm looking at
Boston really labor in the first couple of games against
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New York. I'm not sure anybody in the East is
capable of beating Oklahoma City. So Sonic fans brace yourself
because I can see Oklahoma City getting it done this year. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
No, there's no question about that, Casey.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
The quality of the game, particularly during the regular season,
was under attack this year from fans, from national analysts,
and but now the playoffs looks nothing like what we
saw in the first six months of the season.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
How do you improve the regular.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Season so we don't see so much criticism of regular
season basketball.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I think you have to uh look to play in game.
I think was a marvelous conception and I love it,
and I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I think it's a fan favorite.
People love that. But as long as you can figure
that if you just can stay healthy, the meaning don't
sustain any you know, year ending injuries. If you're the NBA,
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you know you've always they've always talked about the load
management and resting players and so forth. And I think
that's the biggest criticism that a number of casual fans
have about the game. I would say this though, that
when you've got assets with guys making as they will
soon upwards north of sixty million dollars. I mean, Jalen
Brown's already there. It's it's they are looked upon as
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obviously human beings, but assets with enormous contracts, and so
ownership and management, you know, have a fiduciary responsibility to
take care of that asset, which means load management, which means,
all right, we're playing him sixty games. It's unfortunate when
you're a fan and you pay to see step Curry
come into your building and play, and he's not playing
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because of it's the second of a back to back,
He's not playing all those games. I get that, I
understand all that. I don't know about changing things up,
but that I think is why you have the difference
in the regular season as opposed to the postseason. If
you can be in that top six and avoid the
play in, just stay healthy, get yourself a week and
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a few days of rest. Home court advantage is not
what it used to be in my opinion, in the NBA,
So it doesn't to me, it doesn't quite matter one
through six, and I think you're seeing that obviously at
Boston losing, you know, back to back twenty point leads
at home. Cleveland Losing back to back games at home
of the Indiana Place never happened since the sixteen team
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format back in the mid eighties. Never happened.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Oh, Kevin collaborates with us, And Kevin, you mentioned the
Thunder there, we have a drop. We like to play
for them, you Thunder, And that's the only motivating factor
for me, is just keeping those bastards away from the
Lary O'Brian trophy.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
And I think all of us are with you that man.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It really feels like it might be their time to
to kind of wrap it up. But there's if there's
nobody that you really feel is is maybe you know.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Really set up to be who's got the best shot?
In your mind? Is it Denver? Now? Is it Minnesota?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
And the nextit maybe gol and State that they can
survive and get Curry back?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Is it Cleveland, Boston, the Knicks? Who do you think?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
And it might be a small chance in your mind,
who has the best chance of taking them out?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
All right, I'm gonna throw something really wacky at you. Okay,
I can see an Indiana Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
The final who got the NBA would hate that, But I.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Don't think Indiana beats its got issues. Well, look, it
all comes down to injuries. Borzingis has got this mysterious illness.
He looked horrible in Game one. He looked out of
it in the third quarter of Game two. Okay, he's
a seven to three unicorn that draws defense out. He's
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spread you out. New York doesn't have to spread out
as much. Boston. I think his gun shy. Now sixty
attempts in Game one, only made fifteen shots. The numbers
the stat guys tell you forty one of those sixty
were wide open looks, meaning defenders weren't within four feet
of these guys. Okay, you've seen great hitters going to slumps.
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I Boston just doesn't play with confidence against this Knicks
team in these first two games, even though they beat
him in the regular season. Borrow Michale Bridges looks nails.
He is back. Josh Hart always kicks your ass because
he out hustles you an out workshow O g Ananoby's
gonna chip on his shoulder. He thinks he's as good
as Tatum and Brown. Having Mitch Robinson back, a guy
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who's standing reaches nine to three, meaning he can stand
there and reach up halfway up the net. Having him
back there defensively is tough. Boston's going to be extended
in this series. I think they still beat the Knicks,
but Indiana's waiting for him, and if they can't get
Porzenka and Sam Hauser's out as well, another guy that's
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spread your defense shooting the three. Now that Boston may
go small and they may play Pritchard a lot, I
would because that guy is terrific at shooting the three
and he can match up against Brunton defensively. So I
mean that series has got a long way to go.
I wouldn't write Boston out of it. But Indiana, my gosh,
they just seem like they have been to overcome a
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seven point lead forty seconds left on the road against
Cleveland with uh Donovan Mitchell just having a phenomenal game. Uh.
But you know, looking at Cleveland mobilely.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Out uh Uhland?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Who else was Garland? With Garland out sideline for the
first two games. He's got a toe injury that's bothered,
and the weird Hunter's got a dislocated thumb apparently, and
he was huge coming off the bench this year. You know,
they gave up a lot to get him from Atlanta
midway through the year with those kinds of injuries to
the Porzingis to the Boston and then those three guys
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in Cleveland with Indiana playing with that just a determined group.
Uh they really Indiana. They're already talking about the Hicks
versus the Knicks, you know, another version of that, and
so I will I want it. I'm here for it
and being an old Pacer fan and that having a
vested interest in the East. I like the Pacers with
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Tyrees Halliburton. Uh, Mathern is a tough, tough cat. They
they meet force with force at the rem Andrew Nemhart
is becoming a tremendous shooting guard in this league. Who
knew coming out of Gonzaga that he had that, but
but he plays so well on both ends of the floor.
And the other kid, Aaron NEI Smith, another guy that
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just plays just so hard. I really like that Indiana team.
I'm saying it's Indiana and Oklahoma City playing for the
hearts and minds of Middle America.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Buckle up, baby, I'm on the wagon. Man, I am
getting a Pacer jersey. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I'll paint my face I'll paint my body.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
How about this casey, how about this bullyball that that
we're seeing in the playoffs. I mean, this is people
were criticizing the NBA for being soft, and all the
guys in the nineties were a lot tougher.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Bull crap.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
They just let you beat on each other thirty years ago,
and the refs are letting these teams beat on each
other now and it looks like nineteen ninety five again.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
No, I mean, and you know, that's why I like
the Indiana team because they've got a lot of grit.
That's why I like the Knicks against Boston because they've
got a lot of grit. They will hit you first.
I mean, Josh Hart is this tough a cat. We
had him in Portland for a couple of months and
he's just a winner, you know, an absolute winner. He's
an all defense type player, anonob He's an all defense
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type player. Mitchell Robinson again gives them such force, and
the Knicks are They're switching more than I've seen Thibodeau
switch his defense. They do a nice job of hiding
Brunson on the defensive end while getting him in there.
You know, when they have the offensive possessions down the
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stretch because he's one of the top clutch guys in
the NBA. But there have been some some just some
sensational meetings at the rim deck. To your point, force
on force in this series so far, I mean, it's
hard to keep track.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Hey, Kevin, before you go, does the name Jim Fagan
ring a bell with you at all? By the way, Yeah,
we do.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I know that name.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
This is the NBA on NBC. This guy right here,
good Jesson.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
This is the NBA on NBC.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Okay, So that Jim Fagan passed away eight years ago.
Have you heard what NBC is doing this fall when
they bring the NBA back.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Are they going to do like an AI thing of
Jim Fagan?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
This is the AI version. Check it out. The NBA
on NBC is bat I'll see you this October for
the NBA season tip off.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
So he passed away eight years ago and they're recreating
his voice for the NBA on NBC. Uh, just leave
the table open, the floor open.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Well, look, I like it, and I think Jim Fagan
and his family like it. Wherever Jim Pagan is, no,
I'm sorry that I had forgotten Jim Fagan, But yeah,
terrific voiceover guy. I don't know his story. I don't
know what he I don't think he was a sportscaster.
I think he was just a great voiceover guy. Well,
if they can do that, then they got to have
John Facunda coming back from the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well how about you.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
How about you just play thirty six every day and
we'll just take care of your voice for you.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
What the hell, it's only a matter of time. But
before the AI, they figure out how to do AI
a play by play guy and talk show guys too.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
That's right, show guys, that's not hard man. We talked
about that, all right, brother, good stuff. Hey, tell people
what you're doing these days.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
By the way, well, I'm over at lane right now.
Love that fishing rods, power bait worms and ice. Nice
the big sun out here in front of the the
liquor store today. Fishing rod, power bait worms, and.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Ah wow, the fact that you're hanging around a liquor
store shocking. By the way, Hey, isn't that Kevin Collaboros.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Are words to live by, baby, I'll rus power bait
worms and ice. I love it.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
You're the man.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Great stuff and we'll talk soon. Brother, keeping such.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
All right, all right, hellas always great talking to you.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
All right, Kevin Collaboro hanging around liquor stores in chlanne Man,
that is an amazing life for him. But I hope
that when this thing does happen that obviously he's going
to be a part of it, because it would not
be the same without him.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
All Right, we're gonna break on.
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Speaker 4 (20:54):
I actually have a curveball that I forgot to throw
at you guys.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Got are here again? Hit says Actually it says curveball.
I wrote that down here.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I got a text message this morning from a guy
who is in media. I won't tell you his name,
but a rhymes with johnkins Ono about Actually what time
did he text me?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Man? God?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
It was it was like seven eight. I'm like, what
are you doing? Leave me alone?
Speaker 4 (21:18):
For God's sakes. John Conzido texted me this morning. What
time did he send me this text at? It was
seven thirty two in the morning, and he said, give
me the five most important, not best, but most important
figures in Washington football history. That could be players, coaches, eighties, whatever.
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So I just want and I'm not I won't hold
you to it. You can change your list later. Just
the initial five that come to mind.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
First three came to mind. Warren Moon got it, John
James got it? Keep going?
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Uh, this is college or Pro two college? Why the
Huskies Washington? Yes, having just Washington not Washington State too,
wash Washington State Washing. I thought you said, I said,
give me the five most important figures in Washington football history.
You dub you and dj uh Penix, Pedix, Locker, locker, Wow.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Twoey and twoey. Okay, Jackson, who are your five? Your
first two in my head were James and then Chris Peterson. Okay,
dj CP, keep going me, Michael.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Pennock on that, okay, law Yeah, honestly, time will tell.
But like Fish is the first person in this new
Nile era, and he's done a pretty good job of
money and stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
No no, no, no, not now.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Ten years from now, if the Husky's turning to a financialing.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
You today to give me your top four. I need five,
DJ Chris Peterson, Penix, who else? Give me to Walker
and Oscar and Twoey. Okay, five? So all right, here's
the deal. Uh well, these are the original five that
I gave him, and then I kind of thought about
it a little bit later, had some conversations with some
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people and kind of amended my list. The first five
that came to mind for me were Don James, Steve Etman,
Chris Peterson, Twoey and Mike Leude, who was the ad
that didn't hire Don, but he was on the job
and allowed Don to really flourish as the head coach.
And then I said, can I amend the list? I
might want to put Warren Moon on there, excuse me.
And I might want to put Joe Steele on there,
because Don James always said Joe Steele was his most
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important recruit. Then I realized, well, there's no Jim Owens
on there, who won three Rolls Bowls in the nineteen sixties. Okay,
I did not have Warren Moon on there. Originally I
did not have Pennix at all, No Kaalin de boor none.
Of that stuff. So, I mean, I think it's a
great question, It really is. And I think my gut
is is that the initial five that you just came
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up with, if you went home and thought about it,
you'd have maybe two or three more guys on your list,
and potentially.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I just think I just think the the first ever
national championship game team needs.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Somebody on that list.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Okay, okay, And it's not Pennix, it's the Boor, and
nobody wants to put the bor on there.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's your list.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
I think Pennis when we talk about important people right right,
because he was the first big money nil I'm going
to set the tone for what this school can go
out and get financially to a national title game.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
How was he not on the list? Yeah? I think
it's a good question.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
The reason why he was not on my list is
because he was only here for two years and we
don't know about the sustainability factor for this next staff.
Hum Millin's take on this, and I want to put
words in his mouth, but he he he went with
Warren Moon because in nineteen seventy eight he was the
first team All Pack eight quarterback. They won the Rose
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Bowl and then that catapulted Don Jaymes. He was mouth
is some unbelievable things. So I almost wonder as much
as I and you know me and my take on
to Bora, I'm not with everybody on to Boor. I'm
a big fan. I love what he did, heartbroken that
he took off. But if Jedfish goes twenty five and
three and then bolts in two years, sign me up, right, Okay,
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So my point on Penix is that we don't know
what that run meant yet for Husky football, Like if
they if that catapulted Jed because he took over a
team that was pretty damn good obviously, and they just
take off.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
But he didn't take over a good team.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
He did not, but he took over that program at
that time. And maybe what Jedfish is doing right now,
for example, in recruiting, is partially because of what they
did two years ago, exactly because of the name Washington
established for itself. Like if they were four and eight
two years ago, is Jetfish getting Cody Green to flip
from Oregon? Is Jeed Fisher getting Dominic or Derrek Coleman
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Brusaw to commit from Kennedy?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Well, I don't know question game.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Now, Yeah, then the question to be answered is it
used to be the cachet of your program was ninety
percent of the recruiting right, Well, now what percentage is
it versus just cash exactly? Is it eighty twenty? Is
it fifty to fifty? Is it seventy percent cash and
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thirty percent of what your program is?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I mean, I have no idea we'd have to.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And why detective tests with all these recruits.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I think it's money. I mean, to me, it's money,
and I think.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
There it doesn't matter what we did two years ago.
I don't think well, I think I think though, that
if the money's equal, it could right. If the money
if if team as million bucks, team b's million bucks,
but teammates terrible and teamb played for the title two
years ago, then yeah, then it could potentially matter. But
if team as offering fifty percent more than I don't
care who I'm playing.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
For, forget about it. Right, The NFL is gonna find dude.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
The NFL just made Gray's Abel the eighteenth pick in
the draft from Fargo, North Dakota. They'll find you. They
found Josh Allen and Laramie, Wyoming. They'll find you. So
I my, look, I think there's more than five that
you can mention. Obviously we're not talking about you know,
this guy versus that guy. We're talking about who are
the most deserving five? And I had Peterson like you
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did Jackson on my original list because if you guys
remember coming out of the twenty fifteen season when the
Huskies beat Southern miss and that what the hell was
that ball called that was the heart of Dallas, heard
of Dallas and the Zaxby's Heart of Dallas ball, right,
there was a concern that a lot of people had,
and you would talk about this on the ear that
you Dubb had not been to a Rose Bowl in
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fifteen years, they had not won a conference championship in
fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Are we going the way of Minnesota?
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Are we going the way of SMU and Army and Navy,
where we're just never going to recover what we had
fifteen years ago and twenty years ago with that ninety
one team. And then Chris Peterson showed up and took
us to a Final four and won the first conference
championship in sixteen seasons at U dub So I think
he was really important, absolutely got the program back on
the map. The boor came in obviously after Jimmy, and
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they whacked him when it was clear as day it
wasn't going to work, and he.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Took it to a new level. What was the bigger lift?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Was the Pace Peterson lift from an already decent to
good Sark team a heavier lift?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Or was the Sark lift the heavier lift. Here's my
take on Sark, and I love Sark. I don't have
any it will towards Sark either, but I do believe,
and you tell me if you agree with this, that
there's about twenty five coaches that could have come into
you dub and did what Steve Sarkisian did, if not more,
because they never should have been oh to twelve ever ever,
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and the most wins he ever had here was seven
because remember two he won the Bowl game for the
eighth win that year against BYU and San Francisco. I
think there's a lot of coaches that could have taken
you dubbed the seven wins after Tyrone Willingham got fired.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Ye lots, I think there's quite a few.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
But we're seeing like if Sark would have just gone
on to do nothing in his career, then maybe you
could minimize and say that more coaches could have done.
But Sark right now is a top ten.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
No doubt, absolutely down coach and the coach.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
But a lot of coaches could have come over here year,
won seven games and then flamed out somewhere else. They
still would have won the seven games in Seattle. I
just think that at its at its at its bottom,
Washington's a seven win team every year.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
That's right, right.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
Peterson put us on the national map. Sart got us back.
But like you know, like just in terms of the
PAC twelve, Peterson put us on the national map, and
then Penis and and you know, the extension of that
team is.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Gonna put us on the financial.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I get what people have said about we got to
wait and see what the career looks like or what
the program looks like after a guy takes off, and
what Warren Moon and Don James did together catapulted these
guys to some pretty amazing success in.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
The eighties right the the early part of the eighties.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Obviously, Michael Pennix, if Washington is truly now back as
a national brand, and Jed Fish has an easier time
with success because of what Pennix did exactly. Then maybe
in a couple of years we put Pennix on that list.
I mean, I I had Warren Moon. In the end,
I had Entman as the greatest player in Washington history.
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I had Peterson, I had Don James, and I had
Jim Owens. That was my final five that I sent
to consent.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Okay, I mean I don't even I don't have an
issue with that. But back to Jackson's point real quick
about about Fish. I mean, what do we say about
Fish When he first came in, we had no idea
what kind of coach he was going to be. I know,
we said, but we said he'll be here for a year.
But we also we said that he really gets this
whole new college football totally.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yes, he's a good fit for it.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
He is a good and my god, has that paid
off in spades.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I mean, he is out.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
He is running circles around Kaylan de Boor and recruiting, right.
I mean, there's it's a slam dunk. And I'm wondering
three years from now, if he'll run circles around.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Kailan to Boor coaching, Well, he may.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
He may run circles around a lot of people in recruiting,
which is why a lot of guys got out of
the game. I mean, why do you think Nick Saban
got out? Why do you think, uh, you know what,
Urban Meyer doesn't want back in. Why do you think
Chris Peterson got the hell? Because some guys are just
they're they're not fans of the way the current game
is being run. And you know, look Tooey, that two
thousand rolls ball team doesn't even sniff the Rose Bowl
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without Tooy.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
They're a six and sixteen without him.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
But then he leaves and they don't take advantage of
it because new heisl got fired and they had when
they they went down to Hell to the death spiral.
So you know, if they would have been able to
sustain that, maybe we'd look at Tooey like we look
at Warren Moon that we're gonna break.
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Speaker 4 (31:45):
Remember the pre season conversation we had with Jim Bowden
on the air. We were at the Queen Ann Beer
Hall that day. If you don't remember the conversation, let
me refresh your memory.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
I mean, it's disgusting, gross, embarrassing, and it makes you
want to go to the toilet and.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Throw Remember that. Yeah, and here we are. Is he
talking about the American League Executive of the Year. He
was talking about we have asive team, the.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Lack of movement by the Mariners over the offseason, given
their phenomenal starting rotation, which has not been phenomenal, mostly
because guys have been banged up. But it's funny that,
like everything that we were concerned about with this rotation
is happening, right, we thought, okay, And by the way,
I don't think we will, at least for me, Jackson,
you chime in too. I don't think I'll ever get
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over what happened a year ago when they led the
league in er and they did not go out and
give them the proper support to not even make the
playoffs and make a run out a World Series. So hey, look,
I mean, obviously we're excited about what's happening now, but
that little thing called twenty twenty four still sits in
the back of my head and still will I think,
make me irate forever that they did that to their
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fan base. But we thought, hey, you need to take
advantage of this. They're not going to stay healthy forever.
This is unheard of where all five guys go the
entire year and they're dominant and they're healthy. That doesn't
happen very often. And look what's happening. Two guys already
banged up, and some of the guys in your rotation,
including Bryce Miller, are not having great years so far.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
They're okay, but they're not elite the way they were
a year ago.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Well, you remember, my number one concern was is what
the hell are we gonna do? Batting six, seven, eight nine.
And your six hitter right now has an ops of
seven sixty right Your eight hitter as a seven twenty six,
and your niner's got a seven eleven.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I mean, the bottom of your even eleven seven to eleven.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
The bottom of the bottom four guys combined are about
seven twenty ops. That's about one hundred and fifty points
higher than.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
They were last year. He said, ops, right, ops. But
they're on base percentage. You have that in front of you.
I do, because I'm going to pull a line from
Billy Bean and money Ball played by Brad Pitt.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
When I point at you, why do we like this
guy Jackson because he gets on base? Who because he
gets on base? On base? Make me point to Jackson again, fellas.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
John base percentage of your eight hitter three sixty one.
That's right, on base percentage your nine hitter three seventy two.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Water, We like those guys because they get on base.
They can't keep this up. We're playing the role at
Jonah Hill. I can't continue to keep this up like
like these they can't get on base walks, they just sure.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
They don't again, Like, I just don't think the averages
are the I just don't think like overall, the success
of the whole lineup, the rowdy t Lez surgeons over
the last two weeks, I don't think that's real. We've
already seen Jorge Polonko drop off over the last couple
of weeks. Right, We're seeing these little nuggets here and
there that makes you understand that the offense has been
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abnormally very very good. But the thing is, like the
reason why there's hope, the reason why I've like my
apathy is gone, and it's gone for a while is
because even if the offense drops off, we're going to
get healthier pitching.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
We got brash back, there's Kirby there.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
When we get everything hell, there's reason to believe that
we can.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Return to the twenty twenty four pitching. Here's why your
apathy has worn off a little bit. You know why,
because you're a bandwagon jumping son of a bitch.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
That's what you are.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Sure, And that's okay because most people are like that.
By the way, most people have lives. Man, pay attention
to this. Just deserve my attention. When the season started,
what Dick said about the sustainability factor, Hey, look, I
mean again, you're you're bringing guys in that are more
patient at the plate. They're they're getting ahead and the
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count they're forcing their way on, they're stealing bags. The
Mariners last year were actually pretty good, by the way,
in that category. They were number four in baseball with
five hundred and seventy one walks.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Now they're on pace for seven hundred and two.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
They led the league and walks a year There were
number four and walks a year ago, and now they're
going to add another one hundred and thirty to that category.
They were number nine and stolen bases with one hundred
and forty last year, which, by the way, kind of
surprises me.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
They were that good.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Now they're on pace for one hundred and ninety three,
run scored six hundred and seventy six. Now they're on
pace for eight hundred and thirty. They're averaging a run
more per game. They've added twenty five percent to their
scoring production because why because they get on They get
on base, and that doesn't need to stop.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
By the way, the one stat we haven't brought up
yet was the one stat that just drove us nuts
last year, and that was a twenty six point eight
percent strikeout rate. Right that was last year, which is
what number two all time in Major League baseball history.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
It is below average.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
This year, you realize they have the average major league
team strikes out twenty one point nine percent. The Mariners
strikeout twenty one point six percent. They are below average
and strikeouts now, Edgar.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Here's here's the question. Here's the question. What would the
Mariners have done? That's creepy, that's deserved.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
What would the Mirrors have done in twenty twenty four
if Dan Wilson had been the manager for the whole season.
Kevin sites are in Edward Martinez had been for the
whole season, and we would have had that the coaching
staff we have right now for the make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
They do, they win the Scott Service. Scott, what would
have happened if they would have whacked you earlier?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Question got we are Jackson? We didn't.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
We didn't even need Dan and Edgar the whole year
last year if they would have just whacked him when
Softy and I in July were like, what the hell
are we doing?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Tiger Series?
Speaker 4 (37:25):
And the Tigers turned out to be a pretty good
team by the way, But it was the Tiger Series
where I just went and if they would have fired
him a week earlier, who knows, they may have made
the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
So I mean, I I again, I just think that
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Like I had a guy busting my balls here day
about the thing from Kramer about the money and will
this affect what they do with the deadline. I was like,
you know what, dude, Look, this is this is the
time right now. People always tweet us and text us
and say things like you better hold them accountable. Okay,
I'll go on the air and scream and yell all
day long. But you think Stanton's like, man, I heard
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Softy on the air and get my act together.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Holy crap.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
They need to be ridiculed as much as possible. They
need to realize And Larry Stone said it perfectly yesterday
on the show. You saw the quote I put on
social media, you would think that these owners have a
burning desire, itching burning desire to get the label of
being the only team in baseball to never play in
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a World Series off their plate. And this is the
year to do it. Last year was the year to
do it. This is the year to do it. As
long as they have this core of young guys together
that still aren't making a ton of money like the
rotation by the way, they got to do it now
and everything that they're all about. If their competitors should
be focused on getting this thing done,
Yep, fifty feet the whole turch into the late parers
hold a left tack baker off the window a window,
what handed hook off glass?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
The rain man up, makes right flights left into the
paint of the glass, plays it up and end. He
baked it home.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
He's found by Spencer. What a drive by shrip.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
You gotta love that baby double off.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
The Hawk sets hawks fires pit's the three the Hawk.
It is most definitely Hawk time live seconds four Russell
then o Russell gets off the three.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Won't go home over, good old. They're waiting in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Here they come with the ninety eighty six minu of
the dass in the seventh game of the Western Conference Finals.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Good lord, thirty years ago, next summer.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Unbelievable that Kevin Collaboro was on the air at the
age of fourteen years old calling that conference finals for
this radio station. And he joins us right now on
the air, casey, how are you man?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm doing well, guys, thanks for having me on the program.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well, it's great to hear your voice.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Thirty years is a long damn time, but it just
feels like yesterday. So why don't we kind of get
first of all, before we talk about what's happening right now.
The NBA playoffs have been obviously amazing, fantastic, ratings are great,
everybody loves it. But we are getting close, right it
feels like to the return of hearing more of that,
hopefully on this radio station. What does your confidence meeter
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feel like look like right now?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Well, I'll tell you, guys what I've been telling everybody
since two thousand and eight, and I believe I've been
pretty consistent because I've said this on your show. Sometime
in the next three years, there will be NBA basketball
in Seattle. I've been saying it since.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Eight and gosh darn it, I mean at this time right, well,
I think, Jason Casey, it does seem like all the
stumbling blocks have been picked up and put away.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Right Do you see any other potential stumbling blocks that
could move this further away than we think it will be.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Unless they don't want to go into Vegas before building
is built specifically for basketball. I don't think they want
to come in with thirty one teams. I think they
want to come with expansion with two teams in one year.
The same year, and they could of course play at
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Tea mobile in Vegas. But the NBA situation down in
Vegas hasn't really sorted out where they have to my
knowledge anyway, And I read the Vegas papers last week.
Looks like they're still trying to determine what piece of
ground they want to build on down there. They're not
certain who's going to build it. But you could play
at tea Mobile. Having said that, there'll be plenty of teams,
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plenty of capital, the five billion or whatever it's going
to take to get NBA basketball in Vegas, and I
think Seattle set as well. But you know, the NBA
is gonna have to do due diligence. They're going to
have to take a look at all the ownership groups.
The various groups are gonna come with different plans, different
presentations and so forth, and all that is a process.
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But to your point, yeah, I think all the stumbling
blocks it was the CBA, then it was the national contract,
that it was the salle of the Boston Celtics, which
I don't think quite has settled in yet, except that
they do have a number now yep. And you know,
but as long as Silver talks about going to Europe
and boy, Mexico City would be a great shot. You know,
you're always kind of trembling a little bit about the
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possibilities in the future. But I think it'll happen.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I mean, there's always that one percent of one percent
right that says we're gonna get hosed again until it
actually does happen. But Kevin collabora with us and Kevin
I was talking to a buddy of mine, excuse me,
who claims he has not watched the NBA basketball product
in seventeen years. And there are some people like that
that just gave up on this and have not really
gone back. But for those that maybe pay attention, or
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don't pay attention, or or just have not watched as
much to really get a feel, can you explain from
your perspective, when this thing does come back, how is
this league different? How is this product different from the
one that you think we saw seventeen years ago.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well, look, the style of offense, for one thing, just
really leaps out, you know, since the advent of Steve
Curry and some of the great deep shooters like Damian Lillard,
who we saw played for years in Portland and was phenomenal.
When you've got that kind of talent, and the league
is shooting an average at thirty six percent from three,
and they have discovered the math. As Rick Barry was
telling us on Sonic broadcasts in nineteen eighty seven, the
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math is simple, folks, thirty five percent from three, it's
fifty percent from two. What are you going to do?
Stand out there and take three? As it worked for
Boston last year. Now it's not working so well here
in the first couple of games. But the three is
the difference in the style, is my point. And so
I think at the time people talked about we need
to see more shooting, We need to see offensive players
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being able to get into space and really be themselves,
and let's see some more offense there instead of this
back down, grind it out work out of a double
team to Charles Barkley on the low block and so forth.
That's I think what was so spectacular about those Sonic
teams that have been nineties. I think if you were
to transport them to today's game, you'd have some terrific
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three point shooters on that team to go with the
great post up game of obviously Sean Kemp and Debt
lof you could invert with Sam Perkins. Percy Hawkins was
one of the great three point shooters without a question.
Nate McMillan, you know, late in his career with George
Carl coaching him, brought him out to that three point
line and he was more of a factor as was
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Gary Payton. So you know, if I were if I'm
going to try to bring fans back and say, look, offensively,
it's a different game now. We still have great stars,
we still have teams that play solid defense, and it
still is a very physical game, particularly when it comes
to play time, as you've seen already air in the
first couple of rounds.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Casey, how big do you think that vocal minority is
that Softy is talking about not just the people that
say I don't watch the NBA anymore, but also the
people there just that just rip on the NBA, like
the hell with them, I'm never gonna watch them again
based upon what they did. I mean, it seems to
me like I'd love to talk NBA every single day.
I would love to, but I also want to talk
about what people want to listen to. So how big
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is that minority of people that you think may or
may not come back to this team.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I have no idea. I gave up listening to vocal
minorities on Twitter and talk shows and so forth.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Come on, come on, man, don't do that.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Don't listen to them. Take joy and what you and
what you enjoy. If it's the NFL, go for it, baby.
If it's the Mariners, go for it. If it's the NBA,
you don't have to make up any excuses, you don't
have to apologize, and you I don't have to win
anybody over. I think. Look, the nights are dreary in Seattle,
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the nights are drury in Portland. They're dreary in the
Northwest from late October until early April. Sideways rain forty
five degrees. You know what I'm talking about, endless, endless
winter in the Northwest. I've been doing it since nineteen
eighty seven. I don't know what I would do if
I didn't have NBA basketball. A place to get in
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out of the rain, go to a hot arena, see
some hot people, a diverse crowd, all rooting, you know,
ten guys giving it everything. I get up and down
the floor. I'll tell you what I just think. People
once they get in that arena and experience MBA basketball again.
I think they're going to quickly realize, you know, what
they've been missing for the last eighteen nineteen years. It's
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been that way in the Northwest since I moved here
in eighty seven. I enjoy my time in Portland, but
I just think, man, this would be an endless winter
of forty five degrees sideless or sideways reign. Not a
whole lot to talk about if it weren't for NBA basketball, particularly,
you know, when you're in a one sport winter town
like we are in Portland.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Right Well, Kevin Collaboro obviously is with us on the air,
and you just stumbled upon the number one reason why
I want the NBA back to see hot people in
the arena.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
That's why. That's why I want to get them back.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You know I'm talking. I mean, you got the scream
at Trees, you got Metallica, you got Jeff a man
representing Pearl jam over there. Who if I missed you
know whoever's left in Nirvana? You know all those guys
and gals, they all show up. I love it.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Hey, are the are the Warriors done? Do they have
any prayer? Without Steph Curry starting tonight.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I think only because Minnesota, in my mind, is kind
of a sketchy crew. They turn the ball over a lot.
Uh Aunt Edwards has got to prove that he can
carry this team. I think they're gonna win this series.
But you know Steph's gonna be out for games two, three,
and four. It's a Grade one hamstring, and even then
you know you're not sure if he's coming back or not.
(09:02):
But I would not sleep on Jimmy Butler time in
Golden State because they're gonna run everything through Jimmy Butler.
But Jimski probably will run a little point, but everything
runs through Jimmy Butler, the passing and defense, certainly of
Draymond Green. I think Minnesota's gonna be tested. I think
it's like a six game series or so forth. But
I don't think Minnesota's got the kind of metal that
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it's going to take the beat ultimately the Western Conference champion,
the Oklahoma City thunder Man. That group, Oh my god,
they're deep, they're focused, they defend, they got an MVP
running the point. They're well coached. This is a very
good Oklahoma City team. And you know, I'm looking at
Boston really labor in the first couple of games against
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New York. I'm not sure anybody in the East is
capable of beating Oklahoma City. So Sonic fans brace yourself
because I can see Oklahoma City getting it done this year. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
No, there's no question about that, Casey.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
The quality of the game, particularly during the regular season,
was under attack this year from fans, from national analysts,
and but now the playoffs looks nothing like what we
saw in the first six months of the season.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
How do you improve the regular.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Season so we don't see so much criticism of regular
season basketball.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I think you have to uh look to play in game.
I think was a marvelous conception and I love it,
and I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I think it's a fan favorite.
People love that. But as long as you can figure
that if you just can stay healthy, the meaning don't
sustain any you know, year ending injuries. If you're the NBA,
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you know you've always they've always talked about the load
management and resting players and so forth. And I think
that's the biggest criticism that a number of casual fans
have about the game. I would say this though, that
when you've got assets with guys making as they will
soon upwards north of sixty million dollars. I mean, Jalen
Brown's already there. It's it's they are looked upon as
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obviously human beings, but assets with enormous contracts, and so
ownership and management, you know, have a fiduciary responsibility to
take care of that asset, which means load management, which means,
all right, we're playing him sixty games. It's unfortunate when
you're a fan and you pay to see step Curry
come into your building and play, and he's not playing
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because of it's the second of a back to back,
He's not playing all those games. I get that, I
understand all that. I don't know about changing things up,
but that I think is why you have the difference
in the regular season as opposed to the postseason. If
you can be in that top six and avoid the
play in, just stay healthy, get yourself a week and
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a few days of rest. Home court advantage is not
what it used to be in my opinion, in the NBA,
So it doesn't to me, it doesn't quite matter one
through six, and I think you're seeing that obviously at
Boston losing, you know, back to back twenty point leads
at home. Cleveland Losing back to back games at home
of the Indiana Place never happened since the sixteen team
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format back in the mid eighties. Never happened.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Oh, Kevin collaborates with us, And Kevin, you mentioned the
Thunder there, we have a drop. We like to play
for them, you Thunder, And that's the only motivating factor
for me, is just keeping those bastards away from the
Lary O'Brian trophy.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
And I think all of us are with you that man.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It really feels like it might be their time to
to kind of wrap it up. But there's if there's
nobody that you really feel is is maybe you know.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Really set up to be who's got the best shot?
In your mind? Is it Denver? Now? Is it Minnesota?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
And the nextit maybe gol and State that they can
survive and get Curry back?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Is it Cleveland, Boston, the Knicks? Who do you think?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
And it might be a small chance in your mind,
who has the best chance of taking them out?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
All right, I'm gonna throw something really wacky at you. Okay,
I can see an Indiana Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
The final who got the NBA would hate that, But I.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Don't think Indiana beats its got issues. Well, look, it
all comes down to injuries. Borzingis has got this mysterious illness.
He looked horrible in Game one. He looked out of
it in the third quarter of Game two. Okay, he's
a seven to three unicorn that draws defense out. He's
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spread you out. New York doesn't have to spread out
as much. Boston. I think his gun shy. Now sixty
attempts in Game one, only made fifteen shots. The numbers
the stat guys tell you forty one of those sixty
were wide open looks, meaning defenders weren't within four feet
of these guys. Okay, you've seen great hitters going to slumps.
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I Boston just doesn't play with confidence against this Knicks
team in these first two games, even though they beat
him in the regular season. Borrow Michale Bridges looks nails.
He is back. Josh Hart always kicks your ass because
he out hustles you an out workshow O g Ananoby's
gonna chip on his shoulder. He thinks he's as good
as Tatum and Brown. Having Mitch Robinson back, a guy
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who's standing reaches nine to three, meaning he can stand
there and reach up halfway up the net. Having him
back there defensively is tough. Boston's going to be extended
in this series. I think they still beat the Knicks,
but Indiana's waiting for him, and if they can't get
Porzenka and Sam Hauser's out as well, another guy that's
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spread your defense shooting the three. Now that Boston may
go small and they may play Pritchard a lot, I
would because that guy is terrific at shooting the three
and he can match up against Brunton defensively. So I
mean that series has got a long way to go.
I wouldn't write Boston out of it. But Indiana, my gosh,
they just seem like they have been to overcome a
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seven point lead forty seconds left on the road against
Cleveland with uh Donovan Mitchell just having a phenomenal game. Uh.
But you know, looking at Cleveland mobilely.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Out uh Uhland?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Who else was Garland? With Garland out sideline for the
first two games. He's got a toe injury that's bothered,
and the weird Hunter's got a dislocated thumb apparently, and
he was huge coming off the bench this year. You know,
they gave up a lot to get him from Atlanta
midway through the year with those kinds of injuries to
the Porzingis to the Boston and then those three guys
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in Cleveland with Indiana playing with that just a determined group.
Uh they really Indiana. They're already talking about the Hicks
versus the Knicks, you know, another version of that, and
so I will I want it. I'm here for it
and being an old Pacer fan and that having a
vested interest in the East. I like the Pacers with
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Tyrees Halliburton. Uh, Mathern is a tough, tough cat. They
they meet force with force at the rem Andrew Nemhart
is becoming a tremendous shooting guard in this league. Who
knew coming out of Gonzaga that he had that, but
but he plays so well on both ends of the floor.
And the other kid, Aaron NEI Smith, another guy that
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just plays just so hard. I really like that Indiana team.
I'm saying it's Indiana and Oklahoma City playing for the
hearts and minds of Middle America.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Buckle up, baby, I'm on the wagon. Man, I am
getting a Pacer jersey. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I'll paint my face I'll paint my body.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
How about this casey, how about this bullyball that that
we're seeing in the playoffs. I mean, this is people
were criticizing the NBA for being soft, and all the
guys in the nineties were a lot tougher.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Bull crap.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
They just let you beat on each other thirty years ago,
and the refs are letting these teams beat on each
other now and it looks like nineteen ninety five again.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
No, I mean, and you know, that's why I like
the Indiana team because they've got a lot of grit.
That's why I like the Knicks against Boston because they've
got a lot of grit. They will hit you first.
I mean, Josh Hart is this tough a cat. We
had him in Portland for a couple of months and
he's just a winner, you know, an absolute winner. He's
an all defense type player, anonob He's an all defense
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type player. Mitchell Robinson again gives them such force, and
the Knicks are They're switching more than I've seen Thibodeau
switch his defense. They do a nice job of hiding
Brunson on the defensive end while getting him in there.
You know, when they have the offensive possessions down the
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stretch because he's one of the top clutch guys in
the NBA. But there have been some some just some
sensational meetings at the rim deck. To your point, force
on force in this series so far, I mean, it's
hard to keep track.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Hey, Kevin, before you go, does the name Jim Fagan
ring a bell with you at all? By the way, Yeah,
we do.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I know that name.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
This is the NBA on NBC. This guy right here,
good Jesson.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
This is the NBA on NBC.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Okay, So that Jim Fagan passed away eight years ago.
Have you heard what NBC is doing this fall when
they bring the NBA back.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Are they going to do like an AI thing of
Jim Fagan?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
This is the AI version. Check it out. The NBA
on NBC is bat I'll see you this October for
the NBA season tip off.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
So he passed away eight years ago and they're recreating
his voice for the NBA on NBC. Uh, just leave
the table open, the floor open.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Well, look, I like it, and I think Jim Fagan
and his family like it. Wherever Jim Pagan is, no,
I'm sorry that I had forgotten Jim Fagan, But yeah,
terrific voiceover guy. I don't know his story. I don't
know what he I don't think he was a sportscaster.
I think he was just a great voiceover guy. Well,
if they can do that, then they got to have
John Facunda coming back from the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well how about you.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
How about you just play thirty six every day and
we'll just take care of your voice for you.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
What the hell, it's only a matter of time. But
before the AI, they figure out how to do AI
a play by play guy and talk show guys too.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
That's right, show guys, that's not hard man. We talked
about that, all right, brother, good stuff. Hey, tell people
what you're doing these days.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
By the way, well, I'm over at lane right now.
Love that fishing rods, power bait worms and ice. Nice
the big sun out here in front of the the
liquor store today. Fishing rod, power bait worms, and.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Ah wow, the fact that you're hanging around a liquor
store shocking. By the way, Hey, isn't that Kevin Collaboros.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Are words to live by, baby, I'll rus power bait
worms and ice. I love it.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
You're the man.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Great stuff and we'll talk soon. Brother, keeping such.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
All right, all right, hellas always great talking to you.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
All right, Kevin Collaboro hanging around liquor stores in chlanne Man,
that is an amazing life for him. But I hope
that when this thing does happen that obviously he's going
to be a part of it, because it would not
be the same without him.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
All Right, we're gonna break on.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
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Speaker 4 (20:54):
I actually have a curveball that I forgot to throw
at you guys.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Got are here again? Hit says Actually it says curveball.
I wrote that down here.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I got a text message this morning from a guy
who is in media. I won't tell you his name,
but a rhymes with johnkins Ono about Actually what time
did he text me?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Man? God?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
It was it was like seven eight. I'm like, what
are you doing? Leave me alone?
Speaker 4 (21:18):
For God's sakes. John Conzido texted me this morning. What
time did he send me this text at? It was
seven thirty two in the morning, and he said, give
me the five most important, not best, but most important
figures in Washington football history. That could be players, coaches, eighties, whatever.
(21:40):
So I just want and I'm not I won't hold
you to it. You can change your list later. Just
the initial five that come to mind.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
First three came to mind. Warren Moon got it, John
James got it? Keep going?
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Uh, this is college or Pro two college? Why the
Huskies Washington? Yes, having just Washington not Washington State too,
wash Washington State Washing. I thought you said, I said,
give me the five most important figures in Washington football history.
You dub you and dj uh Penix, Pedix, Locker, locker, Wow.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Twoey and twoey. Okay, Jackson, who are your five? Your
first two in my head were James and then Chris Peterson. Okay,
dj CP, keep going me, Michael.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Pennock on that, okay, law Yeah, honestly, time will tell.
But like Fish is the first person in this new
Nile era, and he's done a pretty good job of
money and stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
No no, no, no, not now.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Ten years from now, if the Husky's turning to a financialing.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
You today to give me your top four. I need five,
DJ Chris Peterson, Penix, who else? Give me to Walker
and Oscar and Twoey. Okay, five? So all right, here's
the deal. Uh well, these are the original five that
I gave him, and then I kind of thought about
it a little bit later, had some conversations with some
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people and kind of amended my list. The first five
that came to mind for me were Don James, Steve Etman,
Chris Peterson, Twoey and Mike Leude, who was the ad
that didn't hire Don, but he was on the job
and allowed Don to really flourish as the head coach.
And then I said, can I amend the list? I
might want to put Warren Moon on there, excuse me.
And I might want to put Joe Steele on there,
because Don James always said Joe Steele was his most
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important recruit. Then I realized, well, there's no Jim Owens
on there, who won three Rolls Bowls in the nineteen sixties. Okay,
I did not have Warren Moon on there. Originally I
did not have Pennix at all, No Kaalin de boor none.
Of that stuff. So, I mean, I think it's a
great question, It really is. And I think my gut
is is that the initial five that you just came
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up with, if you went home and thought about it,
you'd have maybe two or three more guys on your list,
and potentially.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I just think I just think the the first ever
national championship game team needs.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Somebody on that list.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Okay, okay, And it's not Pennix, it's the Boor, and
nobody wants to put the bor on there.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's your list.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
I think Pennis when we talk about important people right right,
because he was the first big money nil I'm going
to set the tone for what this school can go
out and get financially to a national title game.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
How was he not on the list? Yeah? I think
it's a good question.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
The reason why he was not on my list is
because he was only here for two years and we
don't know about the sustainability factor for this next staff.
Hum Millin's take on this, and I want to put
words in his mouth, but he he he went with
Warren Moon because in nineteen seventy eight he was the
first team All Pack eight quarterback. They won the Rose
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Bowl and then that catapulted Don Jaymes. He was mouth
is some unbelievable things. So I almost wonder as much
as I and you know me and my take on
to Bora, I'm not with everybody on to Boor. I'm
a big fan. I love what he did, heartbroken that
he took off. But if Jedfish goes twenty five and
three and then bolts in two years, sign me up, right, Okay,
(25:08):
So my point on Penix is that we don't know
what that run meant yet for Husky football, Like if
they if that catapulted Jed because he took over a
team that was pretty damn good obviously, and they just
take off.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
But he didn't take over a good team.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
He did not, but he took over that program at
that time. And maybe what Jedfish is doing right now,
for example, in recruiting, is partially because of what they
did two years ago, exactly because of the name Washington
established for itself. Like if they were four and eight
two years ago, is Jetfish getting Cody Green to flip
from Oregon? Is Jeed Fisher getting Dominic or Derrek Coleman
(25:48):
Brusaw to commit from Kennedy?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Well, I don't know question game.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Now, Yeah, then the question to be answered is it
used to be the cachet of your program was ninety
percent of the recruiting right, Well, now what percentage is
it versus just cash exactly? Is it eighty twenty? Is
it fifty to fifty? Is it seventy percent cash and
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thirty percent of what your program is?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I mean, I have no idea we'd have to.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And why detective tests with all these recruits.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I think it's money. I mean, to me, it's money,
and I think.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
There it doesn't matter what we did two years ago.
I don't think well, I think I think though, that
if the money's equal, it could right. If the money
if if team as million bucks, team b's million bucks,
but teammates terrible and teamb played for the title two
years ago, then yeah, then it could potentially matter. But
if team as offering fifty percent more than I don't
care who I'm playing.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
For, forget about it. Right, The NFL is gonna find dude.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
The NFL just made Gray's Abel the eighteenth pick in
the draft from Fargo, North Dakota. They'll find you. They
found Josh Allen and Laramie, Wyoming. They'll find you. So
I my, look, I think there's more than five that
you can mention. Obviously we're not talking about you know,
this guy versus that guy. We're talking about who are
the most deserving five? And I had Peterson like you
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did Jackson on my original list because if you guys
remember coming out of the twenty fifteen season when the
Huskies beat Southern miss and that what the hell was
that ball called that was the heart of Dallas, heard
of Dallas and the Zaxby's Heart of Dallas ball, right,
there was a concern that a lot of people had,
and you would talk about this on the ear that
you Dubb had not been to a Rose Bowl in
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fifteen years, they had not won a conference championship in
fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Are we going the way of Minnesota?
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Are we going the way of SMU and Army and Navy,
where we're just never going to recover what we had
fifteen years ago and twenty years ago with that ninety
one team. And then Chris Peterson showed up and took
us to a Final four and won the first conference
championship in sixteen seasons at U dub So I think
he was really important, absolutely got the program back on
the map. The boor came in obviously after Jimmy, and
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they whacked him when it was clear as day it
wasn't going to work, and he.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Took it to a new level. What was the bigger lift?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Was the Pace Peterson lift from an already decent to
good Sark team a heavier lift?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Or was the Sark lift the heavier lift. Here's my
take on Sark, and I love Sark. I don't have
any it will towards Sark either, but I do believe,
and you tell me if you agree with this, that
there's about twenty five coaches that could have come into
you dub and did what Steve Sarkisian did, if not more,
because they never should have been oh to twelve ever ever,
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and the most wins he ever had here was seven
because remember two he won the Bowl game for the
eighth win that year against BYU and San Francisco. I
think there's a lot of coaches that could have taken
you dubbed the seven wins after Tyrone Willingham got fired.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Ye lots, I think there's quite a few.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
But we're seeing like if Sark would have just gone
on to do nothing in his career, then maybe you
could minimize and say that more coaches could have done.
But Sark right now is a top ten.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
No doubt, absolutely down coach and the coach.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
But a lot of coaches could have come over here year,
won seven games and then flamed out somewhere else. They
still would have won the seven games in Seattle. I
just think that at its at its at its bottom,
Washington's a seven win team every year.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
That's right, right.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
Peterson put us on the national map. Sart got us back.
But like you know, like just in terms of the
PAC twelve, Peterson put us on the national map, and
then Penis and and you know, the extension of that
team is.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Gonna put us on the financial.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I get what people have said about we got to
wait and see what the career looks like or what
the program looks like after a guy takes off, and
what Warren Moon and Don James did together catapulted these
guys to some pretty amazing success in.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
The eighties right the the early part of the eighties.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Obviously, Michael Pennix, if Washington is truly now back as
a national brand, and Jed Fish has an easier time
with success because of what Pennix did exactly. Then maybe
in a couple of years we put Pennix on that list.
I mean, I I had Warren Moon. In the end,
I had Entman as the greatest player in Washington history.
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I had Peterson, I had Don James, and I had
Jim Owens. That was my final five that I sent
to consent.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Okay, I mean I don't even I don't have an
issue with that. But back to Jackson's point real quick
about about Fish. I mean, what do we say about
Fish When he first came in, we had no idea
what kind of coach he was going to be. I know,
we said, but we said he'll be here for a year.
But we also we said that he really gets this
whole new college football totally.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yes, he's a good fit for it.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
He is a good and my god, has that paid
off in spades.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I mean, he is out.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
He is running circles around Kaylan de Boor and recruiting, right.
I mean, there's it's a slam dunk. And I'm wondering
three years from now, if he'll run circles around.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Kailan to Boor coaching, Well, he may.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
He may run circles around a lot of people in recruiting,
which is why a lot of guys got out of
the game. I mean, why do you think Nick Saban
got out? Why do you think, uh, you know what,
Urban Meyer doesn't want back in. Why do you think
Chris Peterson got the hell? Because some guys are just
they're they're not fans of the way the current game
is being run. And you know, look Tooey, that two
thousand rolls ball team doesn't even sniff the Rose Bowl
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without Tooy.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
They're a six and sixteen without him.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
But then he leaves and they don't take advantage of
it because new heisl got fired and they had when
they they went down to Hell to the death spiral.
So you know, if they would have been able to
sustain that, maybe we'd look at Tooey like we look
at Warren Moon that we're gonna break.
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Speaker 4 (31:45):
Remember the pre season conversation we had with Jim Bowden
on the air. We were at the Queen Ann Beer
Hall that day. If you don't remember the conversation, let
me refresh your memory.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
I mean, it's disgusting, gross, embarrassing, and it makes you
want to go to the toilet and.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Throw Remember that. Yeah, and here we are. Is he
talking about the American League Executive of the Year. He
was talking about we have asive team, the.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Lack of movement by the Mariners over the offseason, given
their phenomenal starting rotation, which has not been phenomenal, mostly
because guys have been banged up. But it's funny that,
like everything that we were concerned about with this rotation
is happening, right, we thought, okay, And by the way,
I don't think we will, at least for me, Jackson,
you chime in too. I don't think I'll ever get
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over what happened a year ago when they led the
league in er and they did not go out and
give them the proper support to not even make the
playoffs and make a run out a World Series. So hey, look,
I mean, obviously we're excited about what's happening now, but
that little thing called twenty twenty four still sits in
the back of my head and still will I think,
make me irate forever that they did that to their
(32:55):
fan base. But we thought, hey, you need to take
advantage of this. They're not going to stay healthy forever.
This is unheard of where all five guys go the
entire year and they're dominant and they're healthy. That doesn't
happen very often. And look what's happening. Two guys already
banged up, and some of the guys in your rotation,
including Bryce Miller, are not having great years so far.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
They're okay, but they're not elite the way they were
a year ago.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Well, you remember, my number one concern was is what
the hell are we gonna do? Batting six, seven, eight nine.
And your six hitter right now has an ops of
seven sixty right Your eight hitter as a seven twenty six,
and your niner's got a seven eleven.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I mean, the bottom of your even eleven seven to eleven.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
The bottom of the bottom four guys combined are about
seven twenty ops. That's about one hundred and fifty points
higher than.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
They were last year. He said, ops, right, ops. But
they're on base percentage. You have that in front of you.
I do, because I'm going to pull a line from
Billy Bean and money Ball played by Brad Pitt.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
When I point at you, why do we like this
guy Jackson because he gets on base? Who because he
gets on base? On base? Make me point to Jackson again, fellas.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
John base percentage of your eight hitter three sixty one.
That's right, on base percentage your nine hitter three seventy two.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Water, We like those guys because they get on base.
They can't keep this up. We're playing the role at
Jonah Hill. I can't continue to keep this up like
like these they can't get on base walks, they just sure.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
They don't again, Like, I just don't think the averages
are the I just don't think like overall, the success
of the whole lineup, the rowdy t Lez surgeons over
the last two weeks, I don't think that's real. We've
already seen Jorge Polonko drop off over the last couple
of weeks. Right, We're seeing these little nuggets here and
there that makes you understand that the offense has been
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abnormally very very good. But the thing is, like the
reason why there's hope, the reason why I've like my
apathy is gone, and it's gone for a while is
because even if the offense drops off, we're going to
get healthier pitching.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
We got brash back, there's Kirby there.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
When we get everything hell, there's reason to believe that
we can.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Return to the twenty twenty four pitching. Here's why your
apathy has worn off a little bit. You know why,
because you're a bandwagon jumping son of a bitch.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
That's what you are.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Sure, And that's okay because most people are like that.
By the way, most people have lives. Man, pay attention
to this. Just deserve my attention. When the season started,
what Dick said about the sustainability factor, Hey, look, I
mean again, you're you're bringing guys in that are more
patient at the plate. They're they're getting ahead and the
(35:30):
count they're forcing their way on, they're stealing bags. The
Mariners last year were actually pretty good, by the way,
in that category. They were number four in baseball with
five hundred and seventy one walks.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Now they're on pace for seven hundred and two.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
They led the league and walks a year There were
number four and walks a year ago, and now they're
going to add another one hundred and thirty to that category.
They were number nine and stolen bases with one hundred
and forty last year, which, by the way, kind of
surprises me.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
They were that good.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Now they're on pace for one hundred and ninety three,
run scored six hundred and seventy six. Now they're on
pace for eight hundred and thirty. They're averaging a run
more per game. They've added twenty five percent to their
scoring production because why because they get on They get
on base, and that doesn't need to stop.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
By the way, the one stat we haven't brought up
yet was the one stat that just drove us nuts
last year, and that was a twenty six point eight
percent strikeout rate. Right that was last year, which is
what number two all time in Major League baseball history.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
It is below average.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
This year, you realize they have the average major league
team strikes out twenty one point nine percent. The Mariners
strikeout twenty one point six percent. They are below average
and strikeouts now, Edgar.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Here's here's the question. Here's the question. What would the
Mariners have done? That's creepy, that's deserved.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
What would the Mirrors have done in twenty twenty four
if Dan Wilson had been the manager for the whole season.
Kevin sites are in Edward Martinez had been for the
whole season, and we would have had that the coaching
staff we have right now for the make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
They do, they win the Scott Service. Scott, what would
have happened if they would have whacked you earlier?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Question got we are Jackson? We didn't.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
We didn't even need Dan and Edgar the whole year
last year if they would have just whacked him when
Softy and I in July were like, what the hell
are we doing?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Tiger Series?
Speaker 4 (37:25):
And the Tigers turned out to be a pretty good
team by the way, But it was the Tiger Series
where I just went and if they would have fired
him a week earlier, who knows, they may have made
the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
So I mean, I I again, I just think that
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Like I had a guy busting my balls here day
about the thing from Kramer about the money and will
this affect what they do with the deadline. I was like,
you know what, dude, Look, this is this is the
time right now. People always tweet us and text us
and say things like you better hold them accountable. Okay,
I'll go on the air and scream and yell all
day long. But you think Stanton's like, man, I heard
(37:58):
Softy on the air and get my act together.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Holy crap.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
They need to be ridiculed as much as possible. They
need to realize And Larry Stone said it perfectly yesterday
on the show. You saw the quote I put on
social media, you would think that these owners have a
burning desire, itching burning desire to get the label of
being the only team in baseball to never play in
(38:23):
a World Series off their plate. And this is the
year to do it. Last year was the year to
do it. This is the year to do it. As
long as they have this core of young guys together
that still aren't making a ton of money like the
rotation by the way, they got to do it now
and everything that they're all about. If their competitors should
be focused on getting this thing done,
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