June 10, 2025 • 36 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain update a poll from yesterday about the fan feelings around Julio Rodriguez and his expectations, then discuss last night’s loss in Arizona in extra innings and late game pitching before having Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And oh, by the way, Jackson, I will say this,
and if I'm wrong, please correct me. I told you
about a month ago that I had this thought. I
was standing in my kitchen on a Wednesday or Tuesday morning,
whatever day it was, and I told myself, God, I
gotta I gotta write down when Jackson's birthday is because
I don't want to make sure I'll forget it.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And it was that day, right, Jackson, that I brought
it up on the air. Well.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I was thinking the same thing today about you, and
I realized your birthday's.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Tomorrow, That's correct. I was like, what the hell's going
on here?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
How am I having these random thoughts? I mean, am
I literally like? Is it possible that, like in the
movie Focused with Will Smith?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Have you seen that movie, Jackson?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
By the way, great movie, They when they trained the
guy to say fit to the fifty five scene, remember
that where they paid Margot Robbie at the Billion Bucks
to find the number, and they had planted the number
fifty five all over the place. So this guy, when
he was asked to pick a number, would just subconsciously
pick fifty five.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Is it possible that.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I've been like randomly just going through my cat didn't
even notice it, and just subconsciously saw Dick's birthday on
June eleventh and just had it implanted.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Sat my brain.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Well, and you and you know Jackson, you and I
have been together for a while now, so it's like
it's almost like the circle of life, and this comes
June comes around. You know, Jackson's birthday came around my
birthday August, but I don't remember that. I've got it
written down now, I gotta find it. It's in August,
though I know.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
That it is. It's it's coming up. I just find
it weird that I just randomly started thinking, like, what
the hell's going on?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Man?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, my question for you is like men in black?
Is there somebody driving this thing or whatever? What's going on?
Is is this my intro or my Randy birth This
is your uh? Well both? Actually?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well but see is it both? I mean, I do
you have to have to pick one? Don't I? I
guess the Mariners did not one.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Don't pick one? I mean why not?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I was having that conversation with a buddy of mine today.
How can they retire two numbers? Well, it's been done
like ten times by teams in baseball. If the Yankees
do it, then it's okay for everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
The Yankee can do Bill Dickey and Yogi Berra and
the number eight, then anybody can do it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
But these they're just these pet peeves.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And and and maybe this is a maybe we each
throw in a pet peeve and we get the audience
to put some pet peeves and we do a bracket
of pet peeves on our show.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Later this summer. I like that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
One thing that is really starting to bug me, by
the way, and I don't know if you guys feel
the exact same way that I do or not, is
this new practice of NFL reporters, including Mike Garifolo, including
Rap Report, including Adam Schefter, and they're giving the when
they do these reports of players citing contracts and trades
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or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
They put the agents in.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
This is that's a like since twenty twenty three all
it's a very new phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Gives it damn. I mean honestly, like the agent does.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
If you need to kiss their ass to get these
stories and you want to put your head up there,
took us and that's the only way you're getting the
news is if you blow them on social media.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Then go for it, I guess the shifter do. But
why do I need to see it? Why do I
give a damn?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Who negotiated Michael Dixon's contract? And why do we have
to put the Twitter handle of the agency that negotiated
this deal in these reports? What did this become a thing?
And is anybody else's bothered by it?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
As I am? I bug you too, it's weird to me.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I don't know if I wouldn't say it necessarily, bug
I think it's unnecessary, totally unbelieve unnecessary, and it's not
anything that the general fan or even the media member
like us would even care about.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Correct, nobody gives a damn.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
The Seahawks have agreed the terms a punter Michael Dixon
on a four year, sixteen point two million dollar extension,
sources say, And this is the funny thing, sources say,
He's about to tell you what his sources to once
again make him the highest paid putter of the NFL.
Dixon is now signed through twenty nine thanks to a
deal done by Justin Shulman and Andrew Kessler of Athletes First.
Who cares then, but why does he need to see
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sources saying he just told you who his source was
the guy's freaking representation.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Jackson, Am I just a grumpy bastard with this? Yeah? Yeah,
I really don't care.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
It takes up literally like a half second of my
life to see those words.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
But embarrassing, I don't embarrassing. I don't listen. The guys
are clearly getting the information. It very much clearly says
this is where I'm getting the information from. I'm going
to credit the my source right here with the information,
and that's the end.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I listen.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
It really doesn't. This kind of goes to the overall
thought of you people getting upset and angry about things
that don't matter. That this is one of those things.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I just don't think when you're when you're my age,
there's a lot of stuff that you, yes, exactly doesn't matter.
And by the way, Jackson, just so you know, and
you can deny it all you want, you are trending
in that direction. Oh, Jackson will absolutely bale oure. I
think there's a good chance. And I don't know how
to measure this, Dick Jackson, you're thirty or thirty one,
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now thirty two, you're thirty two. Wait, I know thirty three, three,
thirty three. I think Jackson might be grumpier at thirty
three than you and I were.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Maybe it's because he's hanging out with us. Yeah. I
was more manic at thirty three, but not as grumpy. Yeah,
I'm just sensing a trend.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I mean, you used to be kind of care free,
you know, fun, love and free spirit, nothing really bothered
you whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Now I'm just I'm just kind of are you saying
the same thing I am.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, as the days go by, you're going to be
the son of a bit when you're fifty.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I still do really try to check myself and ask myself,
is this really worth getting angry about? Or is this
take up a second of my wife that doesn't mean
anything substantial?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Well, I think I think most things are the latter
that they're not worth getting anxry about. But it is fair,
I think every now and then, just to mention it.
There's a reason why it's called a pet peeve. Right,
just blugs you, you know, a little bit something kind
of blugs. I'll give you something that somebody got mad about.
It's the Julio poll that I threw up.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So I had a guy.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
It was kind of a me I had Z. That's
what I'm talking about. I had a guy unfollow me.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Uh oh no, not in high school. This is mean
girls right now, how jare him follow.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
You just want to write back, please God, no signing
his contract. Has Julio exceeded met or fallen short of expectations?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Forty nine hundred votes in we're sixteen minutes away from
this being closed. Seventy percent say he's fallen short, twenty
seven percent says met expectations, and three percent say he's
exceeded expectations. To which my old pal, my new buddy. Uh,
what's his name? I want to get his right not your.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Buddy anymore, Darnell Calhoun, You're not gonna hear.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh I know Darnell cal Now yes, so he responds
to me sometimes.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Tc A Z.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Four eighty wrote, I finally unfollowed softly after this. It's
just silly how he's feeding into the chatter online about
Julio's contract. Just a stupid ask question, says Darnell. It
was a straw that broke Darnell's back. Of all things
that you have tweeted, this is the one that breaks
this back. To which Julio Rodriguez slash Anthony Edwards fan
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Club on Twitter responded and said it was a dumb question.
You're just fueling a misguided, misunderstood narrative.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
But I get it. This is what you do.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It's your brand. Hot sports Takes have kept you employed
for decades. So Jackson, you are You're the rational one
in the group. Yes, you tell me the question I
asked yesterday about what about where we are on Julio right?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Are we are we happy? Are we unhappy? Are we okay?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Relevant question, very relevant, very substantial, lots of good. I
thought we weren't trying to make like, you know, instant,
Oh my gosh, sports talk. I don't like that either.
That wasn't what we did yesterday. Person whatever, Darnell, Darnell,
come on, Darnelly.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
O Anthony Edwards Fan Club, I mean what what I mean?
What am I missing here, Dick?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Besides just fans being fans, which I totally get that,
right if this is all just Hey, he's my guy.
I don't like he even remotely talking bad about him
or even inviting criticism of him.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I love him to death. He's a great dude. I
get that.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
You know fans are irrational, is the reason why we
call him fans. And it's sure for fanatics. I totally
get that. But I just wonder what kind of and
maybe I would have done this when I was thirty
years old to right, maybe the fact that I'm fifty
two years old in a month, you know, or whatever
is changing me. But what person would wake up and think, Man,
that is not a logical rational question.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Of course, it's a logical question.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
It's a logical rational You gonna have a brick in
your brain to not think it's a rational, logical question.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It is. It is logical, it is rational.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I mean, I just think that if you could have
if you could just draw up the personality of the
superstar of your city, he would be what you would
draw up. And I think people are just in love
with how he hands everything. And the fact is that
he's good enough. Like he never said he was going
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to be the next Ken Griffy Junie. He never said
he was going to be an MVP. Every year we
have placed expectations on him that he is going to
be the next great Mariner, future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Okay, so when the expectations too high from the start, Yeah,
because I tell you what I think, and.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You guys tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
That when the baseball team goes out and does something
that they've never done in franchise history ever, right, which
is give a guy a deal after four months of
major league service time, yes, and make him a quarter
million dollar a quarter billion dollar offer minimum before all
the escalators kick in. When the franchise goes out and
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does something like that, is there not an automatic level
of hype that comes along with that, if.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You or you can look at it.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
The other way is that the marriage are trying to
be cheap and lock him up as soon as they
possibly can so they don't have to pay him five
times more by signing him in three.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Sure, but by the way, they're paying him twenty million dollars.
I mean, nobody gets twenty million dollars per year ever
in their first year in baseball.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
But if Julio were to if Julio were to have
another thirty one hundred season this year, which he's on
pace to do, and in a thirty one hundred season,
and so that would basically he would have a thirty
one hundred season every year.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
But one of his career.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
What's he gonna make if he signs a contract eight
he's going to sign fifty fifth year.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Absolutely agree, And it's one of the reasons why I
love the contract because I thought it was a great
deal for the Mariners.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Hell, I think the cow Rally deal is a great
deal for the Mariners. Unbelievable. Man. Julio got a late
clutch hit yesterday. He did. He had a late clutch
hit in that rally yesterday.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Didn't drive him any runs though, right, No, but he
got a hit in the ninth and then part of
that rally.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
He also had a strikeout with men on base when
they were desperate for a run, and he struck out
on a ball that hit him in the elbow. I mean,
it's gonna happen, right, So look, I mean, dude, I mean,
one game here there obviously is not going to change
my opinion. I think he's performing versus expectations when he
signed his contract. It doesn't mean I think he stinks.
It doesn't mean I don't love the guy. It doesn't
mean I don't think he can be a star down
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the road. It doesn't mean I don't think he's gonna
be a Hall of famer one day. But when they
signed Julio Rodriguez, and I'll just answer my own question, Jackson,
you can jump into. I do think that when you
go out of your way as a franchise to do
something that you don't have to do five and a
half years before you have to do it, there is
an automatic level of hype and expectation that will come
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along with that. When the Braves signed Ronald Acuna Junior,
when the Padres signed Fernando Tatist, there was an expectation,
this guy's going to be a star, whether fair or unfair.
And I think the same thing applied, whether directly or
indirectly Jackson to Julio when he was given that dude.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Totally, and I think a lot of that is because
of what he had done before, specifically the moment he
signed that contract, because that was great Julio. That was
the Julio, the highest level we've seen Julio when he's here.
So it's a matter of thinking that that year plus
that time we had seen from Julio was going to
be not only you know, the continued Julio, but it's
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only going to go up from there. And I think
that's where the expectations come from, is just taking that
first year and a half instead of maybe saying, maybe
this great year and a half is because pitchers don't
know him yet, there isn't enough tape on him, he's
still fresh in the league and XYZ, so we didn't
even consider that this might be the best for Julio
considering all of those factors. But I think we're seeing
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that that's part of the reality, is that Julio did
peak right there and he may never get to that
level again. But applying the expectations and saying it'll only
go up from here was definitely wrong.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
What was weird about the contract and the timing of
the contract was the month after Julius he signed the
contract August twenty seventh. The rest of that season, his
OPS was twelve hundred, and I remember what we said
in the airs, like he's got his contract, he's relaxed, he's.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Not worried about it. Now, he's relaxed. And then he
goes from a twelve hundred ohps to not really.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Doing much of anything of consequence the entire next season
of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
So maybe he wasn't relaxed when he got that content. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I just again, I mean I look, I get it,
you know, and I get it. I think more than
a lot of other people do that. There's folks out
there that just they they want to hear what they
want to hear. I mean, I think every now and
then we do need to stop and just take a
second and ask, Okay, is this a reasonable conversation, This
a reasonable discussion that we're having on the air here.
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And I would say yes, because Julio Rodriguez, the Mariners
putting those escalators in his contract for the MVP for
a reason. Because and Julio put those in there for
a reason because he thought, I thought it is gonna
get thought he could attain them. And he did get
there in twenty twenty three. I was wrong. It was
twenty twenty four. Obviously they had the bad season the
year after the contract. He was fourth in the MVP voting,
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So he got some sort of escalator. Right If he's
top five, I think he's just to be top ten
right right now, he's plus twelve thousand. Was in to
win the MVP in the American League.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I mean, but he could still easily get top tens.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
He could, but and again I'm talking about where he
is right now today, and I just think, again, my
expectations of Julio Rodriguez when he on the day he
signed the contract, and maybe even not even because of
the contract, but just because of what we were seeing
out of him, Like do you have his numbers in
front end when he signed the contract? By the way,
what was he what was he doing when he signed
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his deal? What were his numbers?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You remember in you mean that particular season? No, no, you
said he signed his extension in August? Is that right?
In August twenty two? So what was he doing in
August of two thousand?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
August he had a down, He had his worst month
of the year, which was a seven oh one ops
coming off eight eighty four nine oh three eight six US.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Overall at that point, is what I'm asking. Oh yeah,
he had thirteen eighteen.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
He had twenty one home runs by the end of August, right,
and he had twenty three thirty nine to fifty sixty
five seven sixty five RBIs at.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Any point, and he was hitting what what was his
average OPIU right about low eight hundreds of time. Yeah,
So I mean, again, that's what you expect. There's a low. Yeah,
I mean, I mean, eight eight hundred plus ops is
very good. Well he's not. He's not there yet. He's
not even close to eight hundred right now.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And so I just think, again, the expectations were and
I don't know if you Jackson said it yesterday, maybe
it was you, Dick or somebody else said you expect
him to be a problem at the plate every time
he comes up, and he has not been that, And
that's okay. He's twenty fricking four. I mean, maybe he'll
figure it out. Maybe he won't figure out, but I
thought by now that he would be a consistent problem
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at the plate for opposing pitching staffs.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I think if we're talking about another player who's not
wearing a Mariner uniform, I think all of us, as
MARINERD fans would have no problem with Green that. Yes,
that guy is not a problem at the plate every
day he comes up. He's not elite yet, he's not
an aircraft carrier. He's not must see TV. You know,
maybe the comparisons to Griffy were crazy. Maybe the expectations
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were way too high. He doesn't have the flare for
the dramatic, the way Griffy did him, and guys the
Griffy comparisons probably need to stop.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Period.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Ken Griffy Junior, some people think might be the greatest
center fielder of all time in the history at baseball, right,
so we can just probably knock that crap off, okay,
number two. There was also maybe a lot more mistique
because it was before social media. You wanted to watch
Griffy play, you had two choices, either on TV or
in person. There was no Twitter clips going around, there
was no social media, Instagram stuff. The hat backwards, the
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first real superstar in Seattle. And who were we really
judging Griffy against Rupert Jones? Honestly, who was the guy
that we were Well, Griffy is gonna be the next
nobody here, right, I mean, so it it is unfair.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It isn't fair.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
And yet, if you would have if the day that
Julio took his first at bat with the Mariners, if
you would have come to me and said, in his
first three seasons of the Mariners, he's gonna win Rookie
of the Year, he's gonna be All Star two of
the three years, and he's gonna win Silver Slugger Award.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Two of the three years up for that right now,
Absolutely sign up for it. So he's starting.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Just went out and gave the guy a quarter billion
dollars after four months, right, I mean I'm looking at
where is he?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Uh? He did not make the All Star Game last year?
Is that corde it? Right? And he's not gonna make
it this year?
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Right?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
More than likely?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You think he's not gonna make the All I mean
maybe injury replacement whatever, like George's June.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
He can still make the All start because he's Julio
Regaz He's got the name.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
But he's not a shoeing to make the All and
that is part of I guess what I thought, guys,
My expectation was going to be is that this is going.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
To be a lock.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Every year he's a fifteen year All Star. Maybe he
does it's playing the game every year, but every year
he's an All Star. No matter what happens, we can
count on Julio Ronrigaez to be in the All Star Game,
and it's a it's a fight for him to get there.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
For now, Uh, we'll get a break. We got a
lot more to get to.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Jerry Brewer gonna join us at four o'clock courtesy at
Northwest Handling Systems.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Big day in college sports yesterday.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
John Wilner will join us at five o'clock tonight to
talk about that as we continue live from Seahawk Manicamp
at the vMac.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
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Speaker 1 (18:22):
All right, we are back here at the Virginia mas
Athletics Center. The show rolls on baby until seven o'clock tonight.
We got a lot to get to on the radio program,
but we haven't spent much time yet talking about last
night's gem of a baseball game. Mariners fall down, they
come back with a dominant canzone home run.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
How about that that hasn't landed yet? All right?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
And then they give it up obviously in the eleventh
inning because they can't get the guy on second base home.
With a man on second and nobody out, Hore Polanco
obviously comes up, pops out, a Rosarna flies out, and
Dylan Moore, your buddy, my buddy, everybody's buddy strikes out
looking and the Mariners lose the game in the top
of the eleventh inning on a home run, sorry, bottom
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of the eleventh inning, on a grand slam home run
by mister Naylor.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
So I I guess the question.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Is in the in the tenth inning there, why not
bunt the runner over? In the eleventh inning, why not
bunt the runner over? And I don't know how many
teams do this. This might be a question dick for
Bill Krueger obviously when he comes on the radio show
on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I have to kind of see if we there's a
way to track that.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But it doesn't seem like it's anything the Mariners have
any real interest in doing. And I just guess I'm wondering,
why why not take your free run?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Well, let's let's take your your theory and expanded a
little bit, because you're exactly right. They had runner on
second and no outs in the second, the sixth, the seventh,
the tenth, eleventh, correct, and they scored zero runs with
that runner on second base.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
And I want to follow that up, by the way
in a second, but go ahead.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yes, So there is a fundamental problem if you continue
to do that multiple times a game and it doesn't
I love the bunt, but we've heard from Brett Moon
and all the rest of the pro ballers they don't
teach the bunt anymore. Okay, fine, Yeah, just shorten up
the swing and just pound something into the dirt at
the first baseman, anything possible to get the runner over. Now,
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Dylan Moore made a terrible decision at second base on
that fly ball to right field because he should have
just tagged up. You stay at second, there's zero outs,
You stay at second. Once Corbyn Carroll goes into his
slide to catch that ball, one of two things are
gonna happen. Either he's gonna drop the ball and it's
gonna get by him and he's gonna be able to
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get home from second anyway. Or he's gonna catch the
ball and there's no way Corbyn Carroll is popping up
from right field and gunning you at third when he's
sliding to get the ball.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Well, I just think with the Polanco thing, Dick, I
don't know what he's capable of and what he's not
capable of right now with his current situation. I mean,
he's only hitting from one side of the player, obviously
as a lefty. I have no idea what he is
interested in doing and what he's not interested in doing,
and what the Mariners feel comfortable asking him and what
they don't. So I mean that to me is a
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question for Dan Wilson that needs to be asked. Larry
Stone brought it up when he was on the air
with us a couple weeks ago. We'll ask him again tomorrow.
We'll ask Bill Krueger on Thursday at four courtesy the
Queen Anne beer Hall. But it just seems to me
that if you're on the road and you got a
chance in a free run, you want.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
To do everything you can to take it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
And either a they just have way too much overconfidence
in themselves to get more than one run without giving
away an out, or be the guys that they're asking
to do these things are not capable of getting it done.
But guys, I mean, here's the current situation with the Mariners,
and there's no time to panic. There's obviously four months
of baseball left to go. But you're a game away
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from being five hundred now, I mean, you're six and
twelve in your last eighteen games.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Remember we were twenty nine and twenty one.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
You're three and nine in your last twelve and you've
fallen apart, and you've fallen apart mostly because of your offense.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
And it's the same story that is developing again.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And you know, people talk about being upset that there's
you know, rumblings about what's going on with Julio. Okay, fine,
be upset about it, whatever. What about rumblings about Dan Wilson.
Is Dan Wilson beyond criticism. He's a first time manager,
right who's managing this baseball team for the first full
season in his life.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
He's gonna make mistakes.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
You know, people are asking about the way Dan Wilson
manages the game.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
And when things go well, it's not something that you
worry about.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
But when things don't go well, human nature is it's
gonna get brought up.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
So I just think this.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I think the Mariners are in no position to not
think about every possible way to manufacture runs, which is
something I felt like early in the year, Dick they
were doing and now it seems like they're not.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
It's it felt like that, And you know, my position
with Dan Wilson, who by the way, is the winningest
manager of Mariner history with well he is with the
you know his win persentages, is it sixty nine or
fifty four whatever, that's just so.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
With the lost yesterday, realized that's just I mean, you're
you're being fun. Of course I'm being twenty, but I do.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I mean, when it comes, if it was, if it
was service last night, I'd been throwing things in my
team and Dan, you know, Dan, I'm just still, you know,
mildly disgusted when he when he makes decisions like that.
But you know, the Mariners are in a perfect position,
even on the road, to play for one run because
they had Andre's Munos, who only threw eight pitches. He
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got through the middle of the Angel or the Diamondbacks
line and.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Eight pitches in the night.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Throw them back, get that one run, throw them back
out there in the tenth. Okay, you didn't do in
the tenth. Well, guess what you got another lockdown reliever
in Matt Brash. You decide that to even use instead
you used Vargas for twos.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I don't know if i'd call Brash a lockdown reliever
yet I think he's barely He's barely been back, right.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I mean, there's there's a blow up city.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Right, But he's a swing and miss guy, which is
what you need in right, But in the extra innings.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
He doesn't have the resume this year that Munoz has.
That's my point. I would not put it. I would
not put him in Muonnos this category at all. He's
way better than telling me that you felt comfortable with Brash,
just as you would with Munos. I would say no,
I'd feel way more better with Munyo's. But I mean
the first point, Dick, you could have just stopped right there.
I mean, the point was just he threw eight pitches
in the in the tenth inning, bring him back out there,
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get your one run, and bring them back out there.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So you know this, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You know, look obviously today, to panic about anything right
now and to put any importance on anything happening in
June seems to be a little bit ridiculous. But I
also don't think that you can sit around and just say, well,
there's one hundred games left to go, we're gonna be fine.
Well when you when you when you missed the playoffs
by a game or two games like this, comeback and
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and they'll bite you in the ass. And the Mariners
overall record this year, I believe in extra inning games
and one run games, I think is still pretty good.
I gotta look it up and double check. You know,
that's basically how they made the playoffs. You know a
couple of years ago. Is the one run games and
the extra inning games or a thirteen way ten and
one run okay, four and six in extra Yeah, I
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mean it's not terrible, right, I mean twenty twenty two
when they made the playoffs, where.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Are they again in one run games? Right now?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
You said ten, thirteen and ten, So they were thirty
four and twenty two in one run games and eleven
and five in extra inning games when they made the
playoffs in twenty twenty two. That's how they made the
playoffs because they won the one run games. Thirteen and
ten is not bad. That could climb obviously as the
year goes by. I'm fine with that. But they're not
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good enough offensively to be blowing people out of the water.
So this idea that we can just sit back and
not take free runs when they're being offered, i'd like
to know, you know, I'd love to get Dan's response
to why they weren't having those guys Solato and Polanko
either button or trying.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
To hit guys over last night.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
And if they can't do it because of injury, or
they can't do it because they weren't trained to do it,
then that's a problem. I mean, that's a problem with
this baseball team. That's a weak link, that is an
inherited But because of upbringing I guess and how these
guys were taught to play, that potentially may come back
to bite them in the ass. But my point is
tonight's game feels pretty freaking big. You lose this series
to Arizona, Like we just got done talking about them
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being done right with the Corbyn Burns injury and going
after Aohanio Suarez. Well, you just got beat over the
weekend by a bad baseball team of the Angels, and
now you're about to if you lose tonight. With Logan
Evans on the mind, you're about to get beat by
a mediocre team, right, I mean, this is where they
should be fattening up their win record, not going the
opposite way.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Well, in two weeks ago, you got beat up by
a bad team at home in the Washington Nationals. So
this will be three series, four series now Baltimore, La, Washington,
and Arizona.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
That you have lost to teams that are not very good.
And again that's why I told you today.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
When you're playing bad baseball, it doesn't matter the schedule, man,
When you're when you're when you're over swinging, when you're
over confident, when you've got issues with your mentality at
the plate, when you're banged up, when you can only
do certain things like polacko can, it doesn't matter who
you're playing.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Well, here's what it really doesn't matter. Here's what worries me.
And you've brought this up numerous times before, you're exactly right.
I mean, just take care of the take care of
the crappy teams, and you can go below five hundred
against the really good teams and still make the playoffs. Well,
if you're consistently losing two of three to crappy teams
or getting swept by Baltimore, a crappy team, that just
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puts way more pressure.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
On what you have to do.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
When you play the Astros and the Yankees and the
good teams in baseball.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, well they they need to gain some confidence here.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I mean tonight's game, I'll be honest with you for
June the tenth that fills decent, decent sized I mean,
that's not of major importance, but feels pretty decent, you know, decent,
decently big game that I man.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, I mean, like like you said, no time to panic,
but there is time to seriously question how good this
baseball team is. And the roster to me looks very
very much the same mediocre. And you're gonna have to
win games like that because games like that is what
takes you from an you know, an eighty five win
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baseball team to an eighty nine ninety win baseball team
that actually makes the play.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
Well.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I went, and I'll tell you what else.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
And I don't know if this really means anything to anybody,
It probably doesn't, right, but they're kind of boring right now.
They're kind of a boring team. I mean, outside of
Cal Riley hitting bombs. Yeah, there really ain't much going
on with this baseball team right now, right, I mean,
George Kirby coming back with fourteen k's over the weekend, fun, great,
all that, but they are they are almost literally the
epitome of mediocrity. When it comes to offense. They're fourteenth
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in scoring right now in baseball. They are right there,
smack in the middle, and they're kind of a boring team.
And when you're not scoring runs and you're not you know,
creating runs, and guys aren't doing their job when you're
not forcing the issue with stolen bases. I mean, there
was a point in time where these guys were all
over it with the walks, they were all over it
with the runs.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
They were all over it.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
With the stolen base, the stolen bases, and that really
is taking a step back in the last maybe two
and a half three weeks. We're gonna break a little
fun with Audio slash Ey did you hear that? Next
on ninety three to three kJ RFF.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
It's now time for sfty in digs one with Audio
Jimmy Gawn Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Now let's have some fun with audio.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
All Right, we're back here at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Uh, day one of Seahawk Medicamp.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
You'll never forget where you were, Dick for Day one
of Seahawk Media twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Would you like me to at some point today break
down all that I saw in sea.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yes, I think we all would love to hear white
you Jackson Brooks top thirty eight things he saw tomorrow
at tomorrow ten things per day on the air. What
did we learn? It's all free because nobody would pay
for this crap? All right, by the way over under tonight's.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Game nine and a half. By the way, that's high. Yeah,
that's high. N I thought it'd be like eight. I
hope it to you. All right here, we got a
little funnel audio slash hat. Did you hear that? Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Dave?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
We're gonna go in order hear Jackson thing if you
want to, well, we don't have to do. What's well,
what's the best one you got? I want the best
stuff in case that we get hit by an asteroid.
I want the best stuff right now. What's the best
one you got?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah? What's go on? Over them? All right?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
A's centerfielder Denzel Clark. They have made the play of
the year in Major League Baseball last night? Is he
robbed Angels first base? But Nolan shanwls how you say
his name?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
By the way of a home run.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Here was Jenny Kafner in Dallas Braden's call on NBC
Sports California.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
This one the center field, Denzel Clerk, I'm gonna move
back after he stepped all.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Over another catch.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Oh my jog back jo back leaks where he wins
the Electric.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Player of the Week, and he's already in.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
The leader board for this week. You go ahead and
book it. I've heard the list. I've seen the list.
If the greatest catches you were ever going to see
in your life.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
If you don't have room for this one on your list,
we're watching two different sports. I mean, Denzel Clark climbs
the ladder and then hangs out. You want to talk
about playing above the rim, folks. This ball is out
of the ballpark by five six feet, and Denzel says.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Nay night, give it at back. So you saw the
catch right last night? Crazy? Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
So his midsection, if you will, was at the top
of the wall. That's how far his body was, right
because planted his foot gave him little extra boost.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
But I thought it was he did it so smoothly,
because you're right, half his body was going over the wall.
Half of it was staying on this side of the wall,
and he just kind of smoothly caught it, rolled over
and fell jumped back down on the field like there
was no problem at all.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Well, I thought, I thought it was an incredible catch. Uh,
there's no question about it last night. But I still
think that Jim Edmunds flying favorite Sanfield wall is the
catch you've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I mean, first of all, he could have killed himself
making that catch. He could have broken his neck. Number
two making that catch, and the fact that he actually
had to turn away and lose the ball, that's right.
Like that Jim Edmonds catch, there's about a half a
second or maybe even longer where he has no idea.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Where the baseball is.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yep, he just pitied his arms up and he just
imagine for those that have never seen it, Willie May's
his famous catch in the World Series, the over the
shoulder catch. Now imagine Willie Mays diving towards the center field,
being fully parallel to the ground, fully parallel extended and
making that catch.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So it was a phenomenal catch that Denzel Clark made.
It wasn't Jim Edmonds.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Wasn't Jim Edmonds. I don't even think it was Griffy
Barfield either. Yeah, griff Griffy on Barfield. Yeah, that's probably that.
You like that one or do you like the Spider
Man catch better?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I like I like the Barfield one. It was so good.
Yeaha stadium, right was Barfield year, wasn't it? I think?
Speaker 6 (32:51):
So?
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Am I a bad Mariner fan of I say, Derek
Jeter flying into the stands?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
No, not at all, You're just a bor that was flying.
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
But that that really I'll say this about the Jeter play.
You tell me if I'm crazy. I don't think that
the Jeter play versus the Jim Edmonds play or the catch.
I don't think the Jeter play took a lot of skill.
It just took a lot of balls.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, right, because I mean Jeter when he actually caught
the ball was still in the field.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
On the momentum took him.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Was he really got I thought I thought he. I
thought he catches it as he's like jumping into the stands.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Maybe I think his body was in the field of play,
but his hand was obviously in foul territory. But that
just that was just a comic Cozi play by Derek Jeter.
I mean, I'll that was amazing. Do yourself a favorite
looking up? You don't know we're talking about? All right, Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Two?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Three or four? Two? Two?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Dolphins made a camp began today Miami head coach Mike
McDaniel facing a question about Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
And why it has taken so long to trade at
the cornerback. Suppose he has taken this long to find
a resolution. I don't personally, and I would lump you
into this with me. I don't give it about what
I feel. I'm not. I don't even really go down
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that road of how do I feel about it? My
job is to.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
React and control my controllables and make sure that people
are moving in one direction appropriately. So he's not the
GM right of the of the Dolphins. Chris Greer is
the GM of the Dolphins. I guess my question would
do this and McDonald's a little bit different because he's
been around a little bit longer than McDonald has. But
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can you imagine the Seahawks having somebody holding out and
somebody asking Mike McDonald, what's taken so long to trade?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
The guy. I don't know. I'm not the GM. That's
just a dumb question, not snider, head coach. Go ask
Chris Greer.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
And maybe it's different because maybe McDonald or McDaniel sorry,
has a little more power than McDonald does. I have
no idea, dick how things are being done in Miami,
but it really does feel like a general manager question
and not a head coach.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
There's a question about that. Yes, And by the way, Jackson,
we all do this and you're a victim of this,
this time revisionist history. Softy, Look how far Derek Jeter
was in fair territory when he made that catch.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
He was in fair territory when he made the catch, really,
and his momentum took him into the forest.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, we're all victims of revision.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Stands.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Jackson was in foul territory, but it was not in
the stands. We caught it in fair territory.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
He was in fair territory. Yes, he was in fair territory.
Look when he caught the ball, he was in a
fair territory.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
So he's off the list. Forgot about it, off the list,
nyre Cheter, Garrett Hell
Speaker 1 (35:54):
You're banned from having any take on baseball, Jerry Brewer
is going to join US next on ninety three three
k j R f M
And oh, by the way, Jackson, I will say this,
and if I'm wrong, please correct me. I told you
about a month ago that I had this thought. I
was standing in my kitchen on a Wednesday or Tuesday morning,
whatever day it was, and I told myself, God, I
gotta I gotta write down when Jackson's birthday is because
I don't want to make sure I'll forget it.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And it was that day, right, Jackson, that I brought
it up on the air. Well.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I was thinking the same thing today about you, and
I realized your birthday's.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Tomorrow, That's correct. I was like, what the hell's going
on here?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
How am I having these random thoughts? I mean, am
I literally like? Is it possible that, like in the
movie Focused with Will Smith?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Have you seen that movie, Jackson?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
By the way, great movie, They when they trained the
guy to say fit to the fifty five scene, remember
that where they paid Margot Robbie at the Billion Bucks
to find the number, and they had planted the number
fifty five all over the place. So this guy, when
he was asked to pick a number, would just subconsciously
pick fifty five.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Is it possible that.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I've been like randomly just going through my cat didn't
even notice it, and just subconsciously saw Dick's birthday on
June eleventh and just had it implanted.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Sat my brain.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Well, and you and you know Jackson, you and I
have been together for a while now, so it's like
it's almost like the circle of life, and this comes
June comes around. You know, Jackson's birthday came around my
birthday August, but I don't remember that. I've got it
written down now, I gotta find it. It's in August,
though I know.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
That it is. It's it's coming up. I just find
it weird that I just randomly started thinking, like, what
the hell's going on?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Man?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, my question for you is like men in black?
Is there somebody driving this thing or whatever? What's going on?
Is is this my intro or my Randy birth This
is your uh? Well both? Actually?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well but see is it both? I mean, I do
you have to have to pick one? Don't I? I
guess the Mariners did not one.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Don't pick one? I mean why not?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I was having that conversation with a buddy of mine today.
How can they retire two numbers? Well, it's been done
like ten times by teams in baseball. If the Yankees
do it, then it's okay for everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
The Yankee can do Bill Dickey and Yogi Berra and
the number eight, then anybody can do it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
But these they're just these pet peeves.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And and and maybe this is a maybe we each
throw in a pet peeve and we get the audience
to put some pet peeves and we do a bracket
of pet peeves on our show.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Later this summer. I like that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
One thing that is really starting to bug me, by
the way, and I don't know if you guys feel
the exact same way that I do or not, is
this new practice of NFL reporters, including Mike Garifolo, including
Rap Report, including Adam Schefter, and they're giving the when
they do these reports of players citing contracts and trades
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or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
They put the agents in.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
This is that's a like since twenty twenty three all
it's a very new phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Gives it damn. I mean honestly, like the agent does.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
If you need to kiss their ass to get these
stories and you want to put your head up there,
took us and that's the only way you're getting the
news is if you blow them on social media.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Then go for it, I guess the shifter do. But
why do I need to see it? Why do I
give a damn?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Who negotiated Michael Dixon's contract? And why do we have
to put the Twitter handle of the agency that negotiated
this deal in these reports? What did this become a thing?
And is anybody else's bothered by it?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
As I am? I bug you too, it's weird to me.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I don't know if I wouldn't say it necessarily, bug
I think it's unnecessary, totally unbelieve unnecessary, and it's not
anything that the general fan or even the media member
like us would even care about.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Correct, nobody gives a damn.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
The Seahawks have agreed the terms a punter Michael Dixon
on a four year, sixteen point two million dollar extension,
sources say, And this is the funny thing, sources say,
He's about to tell you what his sources to once
again make him the highest paid putter of the NFL.
Dixon is now signed through twenty nine thanks to a
deal done by Justin Shulman and Andrew Kessler of Athletes First.
Who cares then, but why does he need to see
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sources saying he just told you who his source was
the guy's freaking representation.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Jackson, Am I just a grumpy bastard with this? Yeah? Yeah,
I really don't care.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
It takes up literally like a half second of my
life to see those words.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
But embarrassing, I don't embarrassing. I don't listen. The guys
are clearly getting the information. It very much clearly says
this is where I'm getting the information from. I'm going
to credit the my source right here with the information,
and that's the end.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I listen.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
It really doesn't. This kind of goes to the overall
thought of you people getting upset and angry about things
that don't matter. That this is one of those things.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I just don't think when you're when you're my age,
there's a lot of stuff that you, yes, exactly doesn't matter.
And by the way, Jackson, just so you know, and
you can deny it all you want, you are trending
in that direction. Oh, Jackson will absolutely bale oure. I
think there's a good chance. And I don't know how
to measure this, Dick Jackson, you're thirty or thirty one,
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now thirty two, you're thirty two. Wait, I know thirty three, three,
thirty three. I think Jackson might be grumpier at thirty
three than you and I were.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Maybe it's because he's hanging out with us. Yeah. I
was more manic at thirty three, but not as grumpy. Yeah,
I'm just sensing a trend.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I mean, you used to be kind of care free,
you know, fun, love and free spirit, nothing really bothered
you whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Now I'm just I'm just kind of are you saying
the same thing I am.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, as the days go by, you're going to be
the son of a bit when you're fifty.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I still do really try to check myself and ask myself,
is this really worth getting angry about? Or is this
take up a second of my wife that doesn't mean
anything substantial?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Well, I think I think most things are the latter
that they're not worth getting anxry about. But it is fair,
I think every now and then, just to mention it.
There's a reason why it's called a pet peeve. Right,
just blugs you, you know, a little bit something kind
of blugs. I'll give you something that somebody got mad about.
It's the Julio poll that I threw up.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So I had a guy.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
It was kind of a me I had Z. That's
what I'm talking about. I had a guy unfollow me.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Uh oh no, not in high school. This is mean
girls right now, how jare him follow.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
You just want to write back, please God, no signing
his contract. Has Julio exceeded met or fallen short of expectations?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Forty nine hundred votes in we're sixteen minutes away from
this being closed. Seventy percent say he's fallen short, twenty
seven percent says met expectations, and three percent say he's
exceeded expectations. To which my old pal, my new buddy. Uh,
what's his name? I want to get his right not your.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Buddy anymore, Darnell Calhoun, You're not gonna hear.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh I know Darnell cal Now yes, so he responds
to me sometimes.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Tc A Z.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Four eighty wrote, I finally unfollowed softly after this. It's
just silly how he's feeding into the chatter online about
Julio's contract. Just a stupid ask question, says Darnell. It
was a straw that broke Darnell's back. Of all things
that you have tweeted, this is the one that breaks
this back. To which Julio Rodriguez slash Anthony Edwards fan
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Club on Twitter responded and said it was a dumb question.
You're just fueling a misguided, misunderstood narrative.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
But I get it. This is what you do.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It's your brand. Hot sports Takes have kept you employed
for decades. So Jackson, you are You're the rational one
in the group. Yes, you tell me the question I
asked yesterday about what about where we are on Julio right?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Are we are we happy? Are we unhappy? Are we okay?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Relevant question, very relevant, very substantial, lots of good. I
thought we weren't trying to make like, you know, instant,
Oh my gosh, sports talk. I don't like that either.
That wasn't what we did yesterday. Person whatever, Darnell, Darnell,
come on, Darnelly.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
O Anthony Edwards Fan Club, I mean what what I mean?
What am I missing here, Dick?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Besides just fans being fans, which I totally get that,
right if this is all just Hey, he's my guy.
I don't like he even remotely talking bad about him
or even inviting criticism of him.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I love him to death. He's a great dude. I
get that.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
You know fans are irrational, is the reason why we
call him fans. And it's sure for fanatics. I totally
get that. But I just wonder what kind of and
maybe I would have done this when I was thirty
years old to right, maybe the fact that I'm fifty
two years old in a month, you know, or whatever
is changing me. But what person would wake up and think, Man,
that is not a logical rational question.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Of course, it's a logical question.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
It's a logical rational You gonna have a brick in
your brain to not think it's a rational, logical question.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It is. It is logical, it is rational.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I mean, I just think that if you could have
if you could just draw up the personality of the
superstar of your city, he would be what you would
draw up. And I think people are just in love
with how he hands everything. And the fact is that
he's good enough. Like he never said he was going
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to be the next Ken Griffy Junie. He never said
he was going to be an MVP. Every year we
have placed expectations on him that he is going to
be the next great Mariner, future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Okay, so when the expectations too high from the start, Yeah,
because I tell you what I think, and.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You guys tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
That when the baseball team goes out and does something
that they've never done in franchise history ever, right, which
is give a guy a deal after four months of
major league service time, yes, and make him a quarter
million dollar a quarter billion dollar offer minimum before all
the escalators kick in. When the franchise goes out and
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does something like that, is there not an automatic level
of hype that comes along with that, if.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You or you can look at it.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
The other way is that the marriage are trying to
be cheap and lock him up as soon as they
possibly can so they don't have to pay him five
times more by signing him in three.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Sure, but by the way, they're paying him twenty million dollars.
I mean, nobody gets twenty million dollars per year ever
in their first year in baseball.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
But if Julio were to if Julio were to have
another thirty one hundred season this year, which he's on
pace to do, and in a thirty one hundred season,
and so that would basically he would have a thirty
one hundred season every year.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
But one of his career.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
What's he gonna make if he signs a contract eight
he's going to sign fifty fifth year.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Absolutely agree, And it's one of the reasons why I
love the contract because I thought it was a great
deal for the Mariners.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Hell, I think the cow Rally deal is a great
deal for the Mariners. Unbelievable. Man. Julio got a late
clutch hit yesterday. He did. He had a late clutch
hit in that rally yesterday.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Didn't drive him any runs though, right, No, but he
got a hit in the ninth and then part of
that rally.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
He also had a strikeout with men on base when
they were desperate for a run, and he struck out
on a ball that hit him in the elbow. I mean,
it's gonna happen, right, So look, I mean, dude, I mean,
one game here there obviously is not going to change
my opinion. I think he's performing versus expectations when he
signed his contract. It doesn't mean I think he stinks.
It doesn't mean I don't love the guy. It doesn't
mean I don't think he can be a star down
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the road. It doesn't mean I don't think he's gonna
be a Hall of famer one day. But when they
signed Julio Rodriguez, and I'll just answer my own question, Jackson,
you can jump into. I do think that when you
go out of your way as a franchise to do
something that you don't have to do five and a
half years before you have to do it, there is
an automatic level of hype and expectation that will come
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along with that. When the Braves signed Ronald Acuna Junior,
when the Padres signed Fernando Tatist, there was an expectation,
this guy's going to be a star, whether fair or unfair.
And I think the same thing applied, whether directly or
indirectly Jackson to Julio when he was given that dude.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Totally, and I think a lot of that is because
of what he had done before, specifically the moment he
signed that contract, because that was great Julio. That was
the Julio, the highest level we've seen Julio when he's here.
So it's a matter of thinking that that year plus
that time we had seen from Julio was going to
be not only you know, the continued Julio, but it's
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only going to go up from there. And I think
that's where the expectations come from, is just taking that
first year and a half instead of maybe saying, maybe
this great year and a half is because pitchers don't
know him yet, there isn't enough tape on him, he's
still fresh in the league and XYZ, so we didn't
even consider that this might be the best for Julio
considering all of those factors. But I think we're seeing
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that that's part of the reality, is that Julio did
peak right there and he may never get to that
level again. But applying the expectations and saying it'll only
go up from here was definitely wrong.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
What was weird about the contract and the timing of
the contract was the month after Julius he signed the
contract August twenty seventh. The rest of that season, his
OPS was twelve hundred, and I remember what we said
in the airs, like he's got his contract, he's relaxed, he's.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Not worried about it. Now, he's relaxed. And then he
goes from a twelve hundred ohps to not really.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Doing much of anything of consequence the entire next season
of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
So maybe he wasn't relaxed when he got that content. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I just again, I mean I look, I get it,
you know, and I get it. I think more than
a lot of other people do that. There's folks out
there that just they they want to hear what they
want to hear. I mean, I think every now and
then we do need to stop and just take a
second and ask, Okay, is this a reasonable conversation, This
a reasonable discussion that we're having on the air here.
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And I would say yes, because Julio Rodriguez, the Mariners
putting those escalators in his contract for the MVP for
a reason. Because and Julio put those in there for
a reason because he thought, I thought it is gonna
get thought he could attain them. And he did get
there in twenty twenty three. I was wrong. It was
twenty twenty four. Obviously they had the bad season the
year after the contract. He was fourth in the MVP voting,
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So he got some sort of escalator. Right If he's
top five, I think he's just to be top ten
right right now, he's plus twelve thousand. Was in to
win the MVP in the American League.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I mean, but he could still easily get top tens.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
He could, but and again I'm talking about where he
is right now today, and I just think, again, my
expectations of Julio Rodriguez when he on the day he
signed the contract, and maybe even not even because of
the contract, but just because of what we were seeing
out of him, Like do you have his numbers in
front end when he signed the contract? By the way,
what was he what was he doing when he signed
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his deal? What were his numbers?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You remember in you mean that particular season? No, no, you
said he signed his extension in August? Is that right?
In August twenty two? So what was he doing in
August of two thousand?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
August he had a down, He had his worst month
of the year, which was a seven oh one ops
coming off eight eighty four nine oh three eight six US.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Overall at that point, is what I'm asking. Oh yeah,
he had thirteen eighteen.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
He had twenty one home runs by the end of August, right,
and he had twenty three thirty nine to fifty sixty
five seven sixty five RBIs at.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Any point, and he was hitting what what was his
average OPIU right about low eight hundreds of time. Yeah,
So I mean, again, that's what you expect. There's a low. Yeah,
I mean, I mean, eight eight hundred plus ops is
very good. Well he's not. He's not there yet. He's
not even close to eight hundred right now.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And so I just think, again, the expectations were and
I don't know if you Jackson said it yesterday, maybe
it was you, Dick or somebody else said you expect
him to be a problem at the plate every time
he comes up, and he has not been that, And
that's okay. He's twenty fricking four. I mean, maybe he'll
figure it out. Maybe he won't figure out, but I
thought by now that he would be a consistent problem
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at the plate for opposing pitching staffs.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I think if we're talking about another player who's not
wearing a Mariner uniform, I think all of us, as
MARINERD fans would have no problem with Green that. Yes,
that guy is not a problem at the plate every
day he comes up. He's not elite yet, he's not
an aircraft carrier. He's not must see TV. You know,
maybe the comparisons to Griffy were crazy. Maybe the expectations
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were way too high. He doesn't have the flare for
the dramatic, the way Griffy did him, and guys the
Griffy comparisons probably need to stop.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Period.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Ken Griffy Junior, some people think might be the greatest
center fielder of all time in the history at baseball, right,
so we can just probably knock that crap off, okay,
number two. There was also maybe a lot more mistique
because it was before social media. You wanted to watch
Griffy play, you had two choices, either on TV or
in person. There was no Twitter clips going around, there
was no social media, Instagram stuff. The hat backwards, the
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first real superstar in Seattle. And who were we really
judging Griffy against Rupert Jones? Honestly, who was the guy
that we were Well, Griffy is gonna be the next
nobody here, right, I mean, so it it is unfair.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It isn't fair.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
And yet, if you would have if the day that
Julio took his first at bat with the Mariners, if
you would have come to me and said, in his
first three seasons of the Mariners, he's gonna win Rookie
of the Year, he's gonna be All Star two of
the three years, and he's gonna win Silver Slugger Award.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Two of the three years up for that right now,
Absolutely sign up for it. So he's starting.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Just went out and gave the guy a quarter billion
dollars after four months, right, I mean I'm looking at
where is he?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Uh? He did not make the All Star Game last year?
Is that corde it? Right? And he's not gonna make
it this year?
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Right?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
More than likely?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You think he's not gonna make the All I mean
maybe injury replacement whatever, like George's June.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
He can still make the All start because he's Julio
Regaz He's got the name.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
But he's not a shoeing to make the All and
that is part of I guess what I thought, guys,
My expectation was going to be is that this is going.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
To be a lock.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Every year he's a fifteen year All Star. Maybe he
does it's playing the game every year, but every year
he's an All Star. No matter what happens, we can
count on Julio Ronrigaez to be in the All Star Game,
and it's a it's a fight for him to get there.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
For now, Uh, we'll get a break. We got a
lot more to get to.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Jerry Brewer gonna join us at four o'clock courtesy at
Northwest Handling Systems.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Big day in college sports yesterday.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
John Wilner will join us at five o'clock tonight to
talk about that as we continue live from Seahawk Manicamp
at the vMac.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
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Speaker 1 (18:22):
All right, we are back here at the Virginia mas
Athletics Center. The show rolls on baby until seven o'clock tonight.
We got a lot to get to on the radio program,
but we haven't spent much time yet talking about last
night's gem of a baseball game. Mariners fall down, they
come back with a dominant canzone home run.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
How about that that hasn't landed yet? All right?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
And then they give it up obviously in the eleventh
inning because they can't get the guy on second base home.
With a man on second and nobody out, Hore Polanco
obviously comes up, pops out, a Rosarna flies out, and
Dylan Moore, your buddy, my buddy, everybody's buddy strikes out
looking and the Mariners lose the game in the top
of the eleventh inning on a home run, sorry, bottom
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of the eleventh inning, on a grand slam home run
by mister Naylor.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
So I I guess the question.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Is in the in the tenth inning there, why not
bunt the runner over? In the eleventh inning, why not
bunt the runner over? And I don't know how many
teams do this. This might be a question dick for
Bill Krueger obviously when he comes on the radio show
on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I have to kind of see if we there's a
way to track that.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But it doesn't seem like it's anything the Mariners have
any real interest in doing. And I just guess I'm wondering,
why why not take your free run?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Well, let's let's take your your theory and expanded a
little bit, because you're exactly right. They had runner on
second and no outs in the second, the sixth, the seventh,
the tenth, eleventh, correct, and they scored zero runs with
that runner on second base.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
And I want to follow that up, by the way
in a second, but go ahead.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yes, So there is a fundamental problem if you continue
to do that multiple times a game and it doesn't
I love the bunt, but we've heard from Brett Moon
and all the rest of the pro ballers they don't
teach the bunt anymore. Okay, fine, Yeah, just shorten up
the swing and just pound something into the dirt at
the first baseman, anything possible to get the runner over. Now,
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Dylan Moore made a terrible decision at second base on
that fly ball to right field because he should have
just tagged up. You stay at second, there's zero outs,
You stay at second. Once Corbyn Carroll goes into his
slide to catch that ball, one of two things are
gonna happen. Either he's gonna drop the ball and it's
gonna get by him and he's gonna be able to
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get home from second anyway. Or he's gonna catch the
ball and there's no way Corbyn Carroll is popping up
from right field and gunning you at third when he's
sliding to get the ball.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Well, I just think with the Polanco thing, Dick, I
don't know what he's capable of and what he's not
capable of right now with his current situation. I mean,
he's only hitting from one side of the player, obviously
as a lefty. I have no idea what he is
interested in doing and what he's not interested in doing,
and what the Mariners feel comfortable asking him and what
they don't. So I mean that to me is a
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question for Dan Wilson that needs to be asked. Larry
Stone brought it up when he was on the air
with us a couple weeks ago. We'll ask him again tomorrow.
We'll ask Bill Krueger on Thursday at four courtesy the
Queen Anne beer Hall. But it just seems to me
that if you're on the road and you got a
chance in a free run, you want.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
To do everything you can to take it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
And either a they just have way too much overconfidence
in themselves to get more than one run without giving
away an out, or be the guys that they're asking
to do these things are not capable of getting it done.
But guys, I mean, here's the current situation with the Mariners,
and there's no time to panic. There's obviously four months
of baseball left to go. But you're a game away
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from being five hundred now, I mean, you're six and
twelve in your last eighteen games.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Remember we were twenty nine and twenty one.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
You're three and nine in your last twelve and you've
fallen apart, and you've fallen apart mostly because of your offense.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
And it's the same story that is developing again.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And you know, people talk about being upset that there's
you know, rumblings about what's going on with Julio. Okay, fine,
be upset about it, whatever. What about rumblings about Dan Wilson.
Is Dan Wilson beyond criticism. He's a first time manager,
right who's managing this baseball team for the first full
season in his life.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
He's gonna make mistakes.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
You know, people are asking about the way Dan Wilson
manages the game.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
And when things go well, it's not something that you
worry about.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
But when things don't go well, human nature is it's
gonna get brought up.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
So I just think this.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I think the Mariners are in no position to not
think about every possible way to manufacture runs, which is
something I felt like early in the year, Dick they
were doing and now it seems like they're not.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
It's it felt like that, And you know, my position
with Dan Wilson, who by the way, is the winningest
manager of Mariner history with well he is with the
you know his win persentages, is it sixty nine or
fifty four whatever, that's just so.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
With the lost yesterday, realized that's just I mean, you're
you're being fun. Of course I'm being twenty, but I do.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I mean, when it comes, if it was, if it
was service last night, I'd been throwing things in my
team and Dan, you know, Dan, I'm just still, you know,
mildly disgusted when he when he makes decisions like that.
But you know, the Mariners are in a perfect position,
even on the road, to play for one run because
they had Andre's Munos, who only threw eight pitches. He
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got through the middle of the Angel or the Diamondbacks
line and.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Eight pitches in the night.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Throw them back, get that one run, throw them back
out there in the tenth. Okay, you didn't do in
the tenth. Well, guess what you got another lockdown reliever
in Matt Brash. You decide that to even use instead
you used Vargas for twos.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I don't know if i'd call Brash a lockdown reliever
yet I think he's barely He's barely been back, right.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I mean, there's there's a blow up city.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Right, But he's a swing and miss guy, which is
what you need in right, But in the extra innings.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
He doesn't have the resume this year that Munoz has.
That's my point. I would not put it. I would
not put him in Muonnos this category at all. He's
way better than telling me that you felt comfortable with Brash,
just as you would with Munos. I would say no,
I'd feel way more better with Munyo's. But I mean
the first point, Dick, you could have just stopped right there.
I mean, the point was just he threw eight pitches
in the in the tenth inning, bring him back out there,
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get your one run, and bring them back out there.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So you know this, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You know, look obviously today, to panic about anything right
now and to put any importance on anything happening in
June seems to be a little bit ridiculous. But I
also don't think that you can sit around and just say, well,
there's one hundred games left to go, we're gonna be fine.
Well when you when you when you missed the playoffs
by a game or two games like this, comeback and
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and they'll bite you in the ass. And the Mariners
overall record this year, I believe in extra inning games
and one run games, I think is still pretty good.
I gotta look it up and double check. You know,
that's basically how they made the playoffs. You know a
couple of years ago. Is the one run games and
the extra inning games or a thirteen way ten and
one run okay, four and six in extra Yeah, I
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mean it's not terrible, right, I mean twenty twenty two
when they made the playoffs, where.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Are they again in one run games? Right now?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
You said ten, thirteen and ten, So they were thirty
four and twenty two in one run games and eleven
and five in extra inning games when they made the
playoffs in twenty twenty two. That's how they made the
playoffs because they won the one run games. Thirteen and
ten is not bad. That could climb obviously as the
year goes by. I'm fine with that. But they're not
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good enough offensively to be blowing people out of the water.
So this idea that we can just sit back and
not take free runs when they're being offered, i'd like
to know, you know, I'd love to get Dan's response
to why they weren't having those guys Solato and Polanko
either button or trying.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
To hit guys over last night.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
And if they can't do it because of injury, or
they can't do it because they weren't trained to do it,
then that's a problem. I mean, that's a problem with
this baseball team. That's a weak link, that is an
inherited But because of upbringing I guess and how these
guys were taught to play, that potentially may come back
to bite them in the ass. But my point is
tonight's game feels pretty freaking big. You lose this series
to Arizona, Like we just got done talking about them
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being done right with the Corbyn Burns injury and going
after Aohanio Suarez. Well, you just got beat over the
weekend by a bad baseball team of the Angels, and
now you're about to if you lose tonight. With Logan
Evans on the mind, you're about to get beat by
a mediocre team, right, I mean, this is where they
should be fattening up their win record, not going the
opposite way.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Well, in two weeks ago, you got beat up by
a bad team at home in the Washington Nationals. So
this will be three series, four series now Baltimore, La, Washington,
and Arizona.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
That you have lost to teams that are not very good.
And again that's why I told you today.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
When you're playing bad baseball, it doesn't matter the schedule, man,
When you're when you're when you're over swinging, when you're
over confident, when you've got issues with your mentality at
the plate, when you're banged up, when you can only
do certain things like polacko can, it doesn't matter who
you're playing.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Well, here's what it really doesn't matter. Here's what worries me.
And you've brought this up numerous times before, you're exactly right.
I mean, just take care of the take care of
the crappy teams, and you can go below five hundred
against the really good teams and still make the playoffs. Well,
if you're consistently losing two of three to crappy teams
or getting swept by Baltimore, a crappy team, that just
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puts way more pressure.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
On what you have to do.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
When you play the Astros and the Yankees and the
good teams in baseball.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, well they they need to gain some confidence here.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I mean tonight's game, I'll be honest with you for
June the tenth that fills decent, decent sized I mean,
that's not of major importance, but feels pretty decent, you know, decent,
decently big game that I man.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, I mean, like like you said, no time to panic,
but there is time to seriously question how good this
baseball team is. And the roster to me looks very
very much the same mediocre. And you're gonna have to
win games like that because games like that is what
takes you from an you know, an eighty five win
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baseball team to an eighty nine ninety win baseball team
that actually makes the play.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
Well.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I went, and I'll tell you what else.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
And I don't know if this really means anything to anybody,
It probably doesn't, right, but they're kind of boring right now.
They're kind of a boring team. I mean, outside of
Cal Riley hitting bombs. Yeah, there really ain't much going
on with this baseball team right now, right, I mean,
George Kirby coming back with fourteen k's over the weekend, fun, great,
all that, but they are they are almost literally the
epitome of mediocrity. When it comes to offense. They're fourteenth
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in scoring right now in baseball. They are right there,
smack in the middle, and they're kind of a boring team.
And when you're not scoring runs and you're not you know,
creating runs, and guys aren't doing their job when you're
not forcing the issue with stolen bases. I mean, there
was a point in time where these guys were all
over it with the walks, they were all over it
with the runs.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
They were all over it.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
With the stolen base, the stolen bases, and that really
is taking a step back in the last maybe two
and a half three weeks. We're gonna break a little
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Speaker 1 (29:17):
All Right, we're back here at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Uh, day one of Seahawk Medicamp.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
You'll never forget where you were, Dick for Day one
of Seahawk Media twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Would you like me to at some point today break
down all that I saw in sea.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yes, I think we all would love to hear white
you Jackson Brooks top thirty eight things he saw tomorrow
at tomorrow ten things per day on the air. What
did we learn? It's all free because nobody would pay
for this crap? All right, by the way over under tonight's.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Game nine and a half. By the way, that's high. Yeah,
that's high. N I thought it'd be like eight. I
hope it to you. All right here, we got a
little funnel audio slash hat. Did you hear that? Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Dave?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
We're gonna go in order hear Jackson thing if you
want to, well, we don't have to do. What's well,
what's the best one you got? I want the best
stuff in case that we get hit by an asteroid.
I want the best stuff right now. What's the best
one you got?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah? What's go on? Over them? All right?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
A's centerfielder Denzel Clark. They have made the play of
the year in Major League Baseball last night? Is he
robbed Angels first base? But Nolan shanwls how you say
his name?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
By the way of a home run.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Here was Jenny Kafner in Dallas Braden's call on NBC
Sports California.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
This one the center field, Denzel Clerk, I'm gonna move
back after he stepped all.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Over another catch.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Oh my jog back jo back leaks where he wins
the Electric.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Player of the Week, and he's already in.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
The leader board for this week. You go ahead and
book it. I've heard the list. I've seen the list.
If the greatest catches you were ever going to see
in your life.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
If you don't have room for this one on your list,
we're watching two different sports. I mean, Denzel Clark climbs
the ladder and then hangs out. You want to talk
about playing above the rim, folks. This ball is out
of the ballpark by five six feet, and Denzel says.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Nay night, give it at back. So you saw the
catch right last night? Crazy? Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
So his midsection, if you will, was at the top
of the wall. That's how far his body was, right
because planted his foot gave him little extra boost.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
But I thought it was he did it so smoothly,
because you're right, half his body was going over the wall.
Half of it was staying on this side of the wall,
and he just kind of smoothly caught it, rolled over
and fell jumped back down on the field like there
was no problem at all.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Well, I thought, I thought it was an incredible catch. Uh,
there's no question about it last night. But I still
think that Jim Edmunds flying favorite Sanfield wall is the
catch you've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I mean, first of all, he could have killed himself
making that catch. He could have broken his neck. Number
two making that catch, and the fact that he actually
had to turn away and lose the ball, that's right.
Like that Jim Edmonds catch, there's about a half a
second or maybe even longer where he has no idea.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Where the baseball is.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yep, he just pitied his arms up and he just
imagine for those that have never seen it, Willie May's
his famous catch in the World Series, the over the
shoulder catch. Now imagine Willie Mays diving towards the center field,
being fully parallel to the ground, fully parallel extended and
making that catch.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So it was a phenomenal catch that Denzel Clark made.
It wasn't Jim Edmonds.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Wasn't Jim Edmonds. I don't even think it was Griffy
Barfield either. Yeah, griff Griffy on Barfield. Yeah, that's probably that.
You like that one or do you like the Spider
Man catch better?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I like I like the Barfield one. It was so good.
Yeaha stadium, right was Barfield year, wasn't it? I think?
Speaker 6 (32:51):
So?
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Am I a bad Mariner fan of I say, Derek
Jeter flying into the stands?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
No, not at all, You're just a bor that was flying.
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
But that that really I'll say this about the Jeter play.
You tell me if I'm crazy. I don't think that
the Jeter play versus the Jim Edmonds play or the catch.
I don't think the Jeter play took a lot of skill.
It just took a lot of balls.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, right, because I mean Jeter when he actually caught
the ball was still in the field.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
On the momentum took him.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Was he really got I thought I thought he. I
thought he catches it as he's like jumping into the stands.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Maybe I think his body was in the field of play,
but his hand was obviously in foul territory. But that
just that was just a comic Cozi play by Derek Jeter.
I mean, I'll that was amazing. Do yourself a favorite
looking up? You don't know we're talking about? All right, Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Two?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Three or four? Two? Two?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Dolphins made a camp began today Miami head coach Mike
McDaniel facing a question about Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
And why it has taken so long to trade at
the cornerback. Suppose he has taken this long to find
a resolution. I don't personally, and I would lump you
into this with me. I don't give it about what
I feel. I'm not. I don't even really go down
(34:18):
that road of how do I feel about it? My
job is to.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
React and control my controllables and make sure that people
are moving in one direction appropriately. So he's not the
GM right of the of the Dolphins. Chris Greer is
the GM of the Dolphins. I guess my question would
do this and McDonald's a little bit different because he's
been around a little bit longer than McDonald has. But
(34:45):
can you imagine the Seahawks having somebody holding out and
somebody asking Mike McDonald, what's taken so long to trade?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
The guy. I don't know. I'm not the GM. That's
just a dumb question, not snider, head coach. Go ask
Chris Greer.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
And maybe it's different because maybe McDonald or McDaniel sorry,
has a little more power than McDonald does. I have
no idea, dick how things are being done in Miami,
but it really does feel like a general manager question
and not a head coach.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
There's a question about that. Yes, And by the way, Jackson,
we all do this and you're a victim of this,
this time revisionist history. Softy, Look how far Derek Jeter
was in fair territory when he made that catch.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
He was in fair territory when he made the catch, really,
and his momentum took him into the forest.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, we're all victims of revision.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Stands.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Jackson was in foul territory, but it was not in
the stands. We caught it in fair territory.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
He was in fair territory. Yes, he was in fair territory.
Look when he caught the ball, he was in a
fair territory.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
So he's off the list. Forgot about it, off the list,
nyre Cheter, Garrett Hell
Speaker 1 (35:54):
You're banned from having any take on baseball, Jerry Brewer
is going to join US next on ninety three three
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