June 11, 2025 • 33 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain react to yet another Mariners loss, talk to Mike Florio about contract disputes, Aaron Rodgers, and movement in Atlanta, then listen to Dan Wilson’s comments after the M’s loss before having Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where we go, Here we go, It's Wednesday. We got
a big one. Jed Fish is gonna join us on
the radio show at six pm. I'm gonna work backwards
here by the way if I can. We'll get Dick's
picks for the US Open at Oakmont at five point
forty five today. Larry Stone the Doctor gonna join us
at five o'clock and tell us what the hell's going
(00:20):
on with Mariner baseball. Petros Paparaka, we'll be here at
four pm. We'll do a little fun with audio. There's
a rumor that greyz Abel maybe calling the radio show
as well. And then Mike Florio, Mike Florio is gonna
join us in about six minutes from now. I figure
if I just keep repeating the schedule for the show
over and over as and over again, then it'll be
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three ten. Florio will be on the phone and we
won't have to talk about the disaster that is Mariner
baseball right now after a sweep at the hands of
the year Arizonta Diamondbacks and I don't know, man, it's
just kind of groundhog day here. Boys and girls. You
know you've been doing this for a long time. How
many years you been here now, Dick Faane, by the way,
twenty eight, twenty eight, Okay, I'm gonna just round up
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and say twenty nine because November for me will be
thirty one. So that means that we've got sixty years
combined on this radio station. I mean playoff games, fifty
years combined on the radio station. We have not one
World Series to talk about, don't even have a Game
seven of the American League Championship Series. Closest they got
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was Game six in nineteen ninety five against the Tribe,
and Game six, I believe in two thousand. I think
it was against the Mariners. I don't know, dude, that
was twenty five years ago. I mean, look, this is
just crazy. And I was asking Dick off the year
and I'm just gonna preface this by saying this, I
don't believe that Dan Wilson should be fired as the
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Mariner manager. Okay, But I asked Dick, and I'll ask
everybody out there, what's the reaction if somehow someway John
Stanton trips and slips and knocks his head on the
floor of his kitchen or walks into a wall and
jars something loose inside his brain and when he comes
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to Okay, A couple of minutes later, he comes to tiany.
He wakes up one point one jigawatts. Yeah, he hit
his head on the back of the toilet, clear now,
and he saw an image of Jerry to Poto and
Dan Wilson getting fired after the Mariners lost eight of
nine and eleven of fourteen and fell to under five hundred.
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What if Jerry or John Stanton just wakes up and
all of a sudden, I'll just say this, I don't
give a damn. He wakes up after hitting his head
on the toilet, and he looks between his legs and
he sees testicles the size of basketballs. Wow, hanging between
his legs. That might be a medical problem. Okay, And
he says, you know what, I've had enough, had enough
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of this. I've had enough. This was supposed to be
a really good baseball team. This was supposed to be
a team led by an elite pitching staff. This was
supposed to be a baseball team that had a good
offensive team. At least, that's what my president of baseball
operations told me. And you guys stink, you're all fired.
Everybody's out. I'm gonna do something nobody expects me to do,
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and I'm gonna fire everybody. Many act you're the manager, Hollander,
you're the new president of baseball ops. I'm done, and
I'm gonna send a message to my fan base that
this crap is not going to be tolerated for one
more second. Of course he won't do that at all,
But what's the reaction, Dick, if you do. I think
the reaction is celebration, absolute celebration, surprise. Shock.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
However, I don't think doing that would change anything, Particularly
if you brought Manny act into managing, Justin Hollander in
too be the president of baseball operations.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I think you'd probably just end up seeing the same thing.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
But the act of doing it, I think would evoke
ay wow from Mariner Nation, a.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Wow that we haven't seen in a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
One of the reasons why I heard Maniacta was not
hired as the manager is because he was not the
Jerry Depoto clone that Scott Servis and Dan Wilson are. Okay,
and I'm not saying that meaning they run the baseball
team the way that Jerry Depoto wants it run, right,
I mean Jerry's the guy behind the curtain really in
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the end, pushing all of these buttons. And you know,
Maniacta would have come in here and he would have
maybe roffled a few feathers. I mean, look, I don't
know if that's the case or not. I've heard that.
I just know this that many Acta was next in
line behind Scott's Service and he didn't get the job.
For whatever reason, he didn't get the job. Okay, So
again not saying Wilson should be fired, but if John
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Stanton just shocked the world and fired everybody. The Philadelphia
Phillies last year on excuse me, three years ago on
June the third, Jackson, they fired Joe Girardi and they
went to the World Series that year after they fired
their manager. You want to know another situation where firing
a manager had an immediate positive impact on a baseball team.
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How about the twenty twenty four Seattle Mariners where they
fired Scott Service. They went twenty one to thirteen in
their final thirty four games of the year with that
guy right there, Dan Wilson as their manager. So I
just know this. There is obviously a date, and I'm
not saying it's today. I'm not saying it's in a
month from now or two weeks from now, but there
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has to be a date where things can just get
so bad by a certain date where they have no
choice but to make some kind of a move to
either a save face or be saved the season. What
we need is a disaster of a season. That's what
we need.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Well, the mat tw you should be hoping, well, we
can't continue to have is eighty five eighty six win
seasons because that just convinces you that you're in it
until the last week of the year and nobody gets fired.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well, and now they have a situation where they're coming
home and they got the Guardians, they got Boston, they
got the Cubs, and they got Minnesota. Those are all
four pretty good teams. I mean, Boston's under five hundred,
but barely. Those are four pretty decent teams. And they
got a rough stretch here. They got to figure this
out or that disaster of a season that you're talking
about might be a couple of weeks away from actually
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becoming fruition are becoming reality. We'll talk about this more
a little bit later. Mike Florio joining us right now.
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
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(06:44):
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Speaker 1 (06:45):
All right. By the way, grey example is not going
to happen today. Coach move some meetings around so ain't
gonna work. So yeah, second second day in a row.
So okay, thanks, all right, Mike Florio joining us right
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KJR fifteen at simply sattult dot com. Mikey, how are
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you pow? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
So sing on? Guys?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
How are you pretty good? So all these holdouts we're
seeing right now? TJ. Watt, Terry McLaurin. Obviously, I know
there's more guys that are holding out right now, but
how many of them do you actually believe will result?
Trey Hendrickson in new contracts and bigger and better deals
for the players that are doing the holding out.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Well, and let's remember they aren't classic holdouts in the
sense that they're holding out the training camp. They're skipping
mandatory mini camp. They have the right to do that
under the Collective Bargaining Agreement. To many people say, oh,
on your contract, Well, every player has two contracts that
governs his existence on an NFL roster. One he got
individual contract with the team, and two there's a broader
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contract that covers all players and all teams. It's called
the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
It gives the players the ability.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
They choose so to stay away from mentoring mini camp.
They can be fined up to a total of one
hundred and four thousand dollars for a three day absence
of the mandatory mini camp. So some guys like James Cook,
the Bills running back, who believes he's earned a new contract,
wants that new contract. He said, I like my money.
He decided to show up. These other guys has stayed away,
and I think calmer heads will prevail and deals will
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get done. In Cincinnati, you never know what the hell
they're gonna do, because I don't think they really care.
And if Trey Hendrickson decides to draw a line in
the sand and not show up, he could end up
being this year as a son Reddick who held out
into the regular season and ended up losing millions of dollars.
But for the most part, I think TJ. Watt gets
his deal. I think that Terry McLaurin gets his I
think when the Commanders traded for Deebo Samuel, who's making
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more money, they shore Terry McLain they knew they're going
to have to do something. Just the question of getting
it done. It's a question of determining when the clock
strikes midnight. It's the deadline driven business. Both sides need
to understand when midnight is and then that's when the
deal gets done.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Mike, we haven't talked to you since the final piece
of the quarterback plan fell into place with Aaron Rodgers
going to the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I was a little surprised to see that they got
such a bargain on them. Is that simply just because
there was no other demand for Aaron Rodgers, They're basically
bidding against them. Say he was bidding against himself.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Well, at the end of the day, Yeah, that was
the only team that wanted him, but he made it
clear he wasn't looking to get huge money, and there
was some back and forth between him and his agent
because the agent ultimately put his name on this deal,
and if it's not a great deal, it's a reflection
on the agent. And yes, the agent can take the position.
I told him not to take that little. I told
him to take more. I told him he should take
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even more. In my understanding is the agent, David Dunn,
got Rogers to take more than what he wanted, and
it would have been less than the thirteen point sixty
five million dollar base. But it's a hell of a
bargain for the Steelers whatever Aaron Rodgers does, when you
consider they got him for thirteen point sixty five and
the most they'll pay him is nineteen and a half million,
And if they end up paying nineteen and a half million,
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it would be the best nearly twenty million ever spent
in the history of the league because it will mean
they've won the Super Bowl, because that's one of the
triggers that activates the maximum package that gets it to
nineteen five.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Well, I guess the question is how big of an
upgrade is it over what they would have had at quarterback.
I mean, my argument is it's a pretty damn big
upgrade over what they would have had a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Well, and it's a big upgrade over what they've had
at quarterback since Ben Roethlisberger retired, and possibly since twenty
twenty and twenty twenty one. The Steelers made Ben Roethlisberger
an offer that was significant enough that it wasn't an insult,
but low enough that they thought he would not take it,
and they were surprised when he took it. They thought
he would just retire, and so twenty one was kind
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of a weird year. But really ever since then, Kenny
Pickett for two years. Last year, Russell Wilson and Justin Fields.
This year it was going to be Mason Rudolph and
Skyler Thompson and Will Howard until Rogers decided to join
the team. And I believe that he told Mike Tomlin
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a while ago that he was coming there, and that
they decided that Rogers decided, maybe they decided together. He's
less of distraction if he's not signed and not participating
in the offseason program than if he signed and staying away.
So they waited until right before the mandatory mini camp.
They get him signed, and he is an upgrade over
what they had. And that's what I say whenever the
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issue comes up with fans that are skeptical about this.
The minute he starts firing missiles in a regular season
game and they start winning, and they have three winnable
games right out of the gates, all due respective to Seahawks,
but that game in Pittsburgh is one of the Steelers
should win. They have a couple of road games wrapped
around the home game against Seattle before they go to
Ireland to play the Vikings. They should start three and oh.
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And if they start three and oh, and then they
go to Ireland and they beat the Vikings and they
go into their break at four and oh, the fans
are going to be feeling pretty good about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Mike, what's going on in Atlanta?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Will Kirk Cousins be on the roster at the start
of the season, and same question for Kyle Pitts or
will they try to move him?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Well, I think at this point for Cousins, it's a
pretty simple analysis. They're going to hold him until somebody
gets injured, and we've seen in the past when a
quarterback suddenly suffers a season ending injury, there is a
potential market for another team that has an available quarterback.
The Vikings went through it twice. Twenty sixteen, Teddy Bridgewater's
knee imploded and they gave up a first round pick
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and a fourth round pick to get Sam Bradford away
from the Eagles. Twenty twenty three, when Kirk cousins achilles
tendon blew out, it was right at the trade deadline.
They ended up scouring the market and they got Josh
Dobbs to come in and play for a while, until
that didn't work out and they benched him for someone else.
So we see desperation arise when a team loses a
starting quarterback. And for Cousins, who'll get twenty seven and
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a half million dollars this year and he just waits
and one of the guys that could get injured with
Michael Penick junior. You know, I'm always reluctant to mention
names when we talk about possibility of injury, but we
know injury happened. Twenty twenty three. There were numerous quarterbacks
that were injured and out for the year and that
may be the only way out of this for the Falcons,
And of course comes to worst, they keep Cousins around,
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and after this year they cut him. They owe him
ten million dollars, fully guaranteed, subject off that next year
he'll go somewhere else and make more than ten million
dollars and that'll be it for the Falcons and Cousins
ninety million dollars later, but they at least will have
gotten the guy that they believe is going to be
their franchise quarterback in Michael Pennis Junior.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
What's going on with the chief Stadium and their future
home wherever or whatever that is.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Well, you know, at a time when we've seen teams move,
the Raiders, the Chargers, the Rams, the Chiefs have a
situation where they've got two options that are local, two
Kansas cities, one on each side of the border, and
in Missouri. See how this all came to be. Last year,
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there was a public vote on the extension of a
sales tax that would have gone to renovating Arrowhead Stadium
and building a new baseball stadium for the Royals. That
vote overwhelmingly lost, even with the Chiefs riding two straight
super Bowl wins. That vote died, then came Kansas, and
now Kansas has an offer on the table that they
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claim expired the end of this month. Missouri today passed
a bill that is waiting for the governor to sign it,
and they fully expect the governor will sign it that
will pay four to fifty percent of a one point
five billion dollars one point one five excuse me billion
dollar renovation to Arrowhead. The Chiefs at some point are
going to have to decide what do we want to do.
Do we want to renovate Arrowhead and spend less. Do
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we want a new dome stadium in Kansas and spend
more but possibly get a super Bowl in Kansas City,
have other events they'll make more money over the long haul.
And that's where we see a lot of these cold
weather teams going. They want to have dome stadiums because
they believe they can attract major events all year long,
maybe at Super Bowl. You know, we've seen it time
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and again. Cold weather cities that have dome stadiums that
are paid for at least in part by public money
end up with Super Bowls. So that's the challenge for
the Chiefs and the statement they issued after Missouri passed
the build a day. It's clear the chiefs have not
yet made a decision and they're milking this thing and
they're in the driver seat right now between Missouri and Kansas.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Mike, what do you think of Peter King's premonition that
we're going to have no NFL draft in the future
and it'll be more like a college selection process with recruits.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I was stunned when he said that on TFT Live
a couple of weeks ago, because the draft itself is
baked into the current collective bargaining agreement. It's one of
the realities of a multi employer bargaining unit where you've
got thirty two teams that otherwise could not come together
and make rules like that. They're thirty two independent businesses.
You can't make combined rules for your legor force unless
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you have a joint nationwide union, which the NFL has.
So the NFL, I don't think, is ever going to
voluntarily give up the draft, but you never know what
may happen, and we see things change all the time.
And Peters brought a point was this, if the draft
ever would go away, the NFL would come up with
something else that would take its place and be as successful.
The NFL has a way of just kind of tripping
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over its own two feet into better situations. The Draft
has become as big as it is now because it's
this road show that draws hundreds of thousands of people.
That happened accidentally because there was a scheduling conflict at
Radio City Music Hall in twenty fifteen, they had an
Easter spectacular. The NFL couldn't get them to move it,
so they said, fine, we'll go somewhere else for the draft. Hey,
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let's go to Chicago. They did it one year in Chicago,
they liked it. They went back to next year, they
liked it. They decided we're going to start going to
other cities. And when they went to Philadelphia in twenty seventeen,
that was kind of when it all exploded. So the
point is, if it ever does happen, it isn't doom
and gloom for the NFL. Whatever replaces the Draft, the
NFL will figure out how to turn that into a
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big deal too.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Ah, Mike, we we love you. Thank you for being
a part of the show. Oh thanks, We'll talking to Bubble.
Thank you bout it. Hike floor. You see him trying
to be complimentary. For God's sakes, the Mariners, Oh no,
we suck again lose to the Diamondbacks. Dan Wilson has spoken, Uh,
we're gonna talk about this. I got some numbers that'll
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make your head spin. So if you don't feel like
having your head spin off your neck, you might want
to flip off the radio station and go do something
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Speaker 1 (17:42):
Whereas it's a my fly ball way back.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Hen it's God for another Gino Grand Slam.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
That's his third this year. Waino, it's Gino when it's
four to two. That is the voice of mister Cindy
Brunson aka Steve Berthume, who is married Sidney Brunton. That's right,
the voice of the Diamondbacks on baseball down there and
Arizona Big thanks to whatever network carries a Diamondback baseball
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do we know.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Online? They were the first team to do that fully
online thing where the mayor has went to obviously Sunshine Sports.
It's just it's Arizona Diamondbacks TV, a.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Great Fruit Network, whatever the hell it's called down there.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
I called anything it's online from fully.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Cactus channel, whatever it is down there. So yeah, well
I don't know, man, I just uh, every now and
then you just kind of run out of fumes and uh,
you know, look, there's a chance that this baseball team
obviously turns this thing around and makes the run. Hell,
maybe they shocked the world and make the World Series
and win. Maybe this is the bottom of it. For
twenty twenty five, and in three years from now we're
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on the air talking about back to back to back
to back World Series championships by this baseball team. You
never know. Crazier things, well they are. They always start slow, right,
that's right.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
Have they actually crazier things happened?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, the Phillies fired their manager and went to the
World Series. I don't think that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Years that's not crazier than the Mariners going to the
World How about how about Pete Carroll being the coach
of the Seahawks when he was at USC how about
the Sonics being in Oklahoma when they were playing the
Chicago Bulls.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
If I would have walked up to you during the
NBA Finals in nineteen ninety six and just planted an
elbow right into your skinny rib cage there and said, Dick,
just so you know, in thirteen years from now, that
team right there you're watching is going to play in
Oklahoma City, you would have said there's.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Been more weird win the World Series, because at the
time the Mariners were really good.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I can think of crazier stuff. Jacksonty. You just set
it up as back to back to back. I think
I said back to back to back to back. I
may have said four might be crazy. I can see
no way I figure out, you know what they're doing here.
I just think it took a literal I just thought
of this in the break.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I mean, think of the teams they're losing to, right, Washington, Minnesota, Baltimore,
Los Angeles, Arizona, right, all teams that three weeks ago.
We were like, Hey, I want that guy from that team,
that guy from that team, that guy from that team.
So they are so opposed to giving up guys like
Harry Ford and their precious prospects that they've just decided, Hey,
we're just gonna lose to the teams we could potentially.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Trade for, and then we're not gonna have to give
up Harry Ford and the rest of the guys the
trade dead.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I don't know, Dick, I just I just know this
that this is just I'm just so tired, you know,
I'm just exhausted, right, it's tiring, tires some whatever. I'm
just so past the point of just I don't give
a damn.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
What about Mount Softy July, every mousey Mount Mount Softy
is crapped out whatever he can crap out, and it's
the tank's empty.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
There's nothing left in safety. Welcome to the world of apathet.
There's nothing left in there. I mean, I just I'm
just dehydrated now right there. There's nothing left to all right,
everything is now gone. I feel like I'm getting an
annual colonoscopy from this baseball team. Every single year. I'm
getting a new cold and blue by this team. And
there's literally you guys, remember what happened to me last
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year when I had my pooper Scooper. Yeah, and I
got all sick because I got dehydrated that's the way
I feel right now. Metaphorically, I absolutely feel like that.
But I'm just I'm just done. My tank is unempty.
I mean, how many more metaphors, adjectives, how many more
comparisons analogies can we come up with on this radio
show to say the same freaking thing fifteen different ways?
(21:34):
What's the what's the translator app that we promote here
as a Babel? Is that right? What's the website or
whatever it is or Rosetta Stone blah blah blah. Is
there a babel version for baseball fans of a Suckey
baseball team where you can just put in the same
words over and over again and they tell you it's
like a thesaurus different age for baseball fans. It just,
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you know, maybe I'll learn German or Korean or Portuguese
or Japanese or something. Maybe I should, you know, go
talk to Roland Smith and learn Australia. Maybe he can
tell me how to say the same different thing fifteen
freaking different ways. Because I'm just done, and Mariner fans
are done, and everybody's pissed, and they're beyond pissed, and
they're tired, and they're apathetic and my god, it's just
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unbelievable what has happened to this team. And I was
looking it up last night. As a matter of fact,
I was laying in bed. I mean, here I am.
I'm laying next to my beautiful, hot wife, all right,
and instead of making love to her, okay, I'm sitting
there and I'm running numbers on the Mariners going back
to last year when they were ten games up on
five hundred. All right, I got this hot piece laying
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right next to me in bed, and instead I'm sitting
there letting the Mariners occupy my mind.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
How you're saying us, you're saying, you're insinuating you actually
had a choice of one of the other.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You had a choice. I think I think maybe if
I want to out, I don't know, I've given her
a check or something or good. But yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Think it is hot pock piece of ass laying next
to me, and I'm thinking about the freaking Mariners. I mean,
people's sex lives are being ruined by this baseball team.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
It's unbelievable. And I'm literally looking back on June eighteenth
to twenty twenty four. You know what, June eighteenth. The
twenty twenty four was, by the way, anybody know, anybody.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Was that't the one where they were up by ten games.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Ten games up. They were ten games up. They've played
one hundred and fifty four games since then, No, which
back in the sixties would have been a full season.
By the way, Okay, they played one hundred and fifty
four games. Since then, they are seventy four and eighty
since they were ten games over five hundred, they're playing
forty eight percent baseball. Since then, they look prosperity in
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the face and said, no, we're good. We're good. Don't
want any of it, don't want any of it whatsoever.
All the good vibes from Cal Rawley's home run, the
good vibes from the Toronto Series in Toronto, the way
they fought their asses off against the Astros, not we're good.
We don't want any of them. Get rid of them.
People hate this baseball team right now. Yes, they hate
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this baseball team. And because they hate the baseball team,
they hate the ownership group. They hate the players, they
hate the manager, they hate the front office, they hate
the broadcasters, they hate the people on the air talking
about the baseball team. There's just hate. The Mariners are
spawning hate, you know, all over this city with what
they've done to this fan base. They may as well
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have walked up to every fan Honestly, I swear to
God last year when they blew that ten game Lee
Jackson and missed the playoffs, they may as well have
had John Stanton, Chris Larson and whoever owns a piece
of that baseball team walk up to every fan base
waiting online to get into the stadium an opening day
this year and just kick them all right in the balls,
every single one, kick by kick, after what they did
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to this group a year ago. So it's just incredible.
And I'm just I'm tired, man, I'm tired. So I'm
fifty two years old, imf and die for Mariner fans.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
I think the best point of the last week and
a oh, it was the last night on the broadcast
when Randy Johnson came up and ripped Howard Lincoln a
new one. Right Apart from that, there really hasn't been
a bright spot for mari and her fans in the
last week and a half.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Well, I was actually thinking about that today that what
has been I mean, the best, the high water mark
of the season probably was that comeback against the Astros. Right, Yeah,
when they came back and then.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Followed very closely by the walk off for Cole Young.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Right, turned everything off around. They were playing baseball. Well,
they've taken that and flushed that down the toilet. Oh,
those good vibes are now gone. Right, It's like what's
the saying, never look a gift horse in the mouth
or whatever, blah blah blah. I mean, were they just
keep being given Dick these incredible gifts and they flush
every single one of them right down the toilet.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
They were twenty first and runs scored last year, and
we all thought they would be slightly better this year. Well,
they have been slightly better this year. They're fifteenth and
run scored in baseball. I think every Mariner fan would
have signed up for that.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
At the beginning of the show, they're twenty sixth in
the last okay and nineteen I understand that batting average
in twenty fifth in o PS.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I'm I'm gonna give for a second, I'm gonna give
the offense a damn break. Why this pitching staff has
gone from number one in baseball? You want to know
where they are right now, Okay, twentieth Yeah, because he
is a twenty sixty percent of their.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Staff has been on the IL. I mean, what do
you expect Their bullpen is horrendous, partly because sixty percent
of their rotation has been on the IL.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
I would also say, Dick Porque Nolo's dose. Why can't
you criticize both?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Well, you can criticize both, but I don't think it's
if you have just let's do. He's trying to be
a contrariot.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
He wants to be, but I think eighty percent of
Mariner fan vitriol's always pointed the offense, and believe me,
they deserve some, but god not eighty percent.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, let me just make this simple. Pitch Your staff sucks.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Man and Emerson Hancock has done a decent job replacing
what a Logan Gilbert would give you. He's not Logan Gilbert,
but he's done a decent job. Brian Wus stepped up,
it has been.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Brian WO got his ass kick today though, well he
gave up. You had a mistake today. But I'm what
Brian Wo's done this year. I just think I'm gonna
make this real simple for you. The whole freaking thing sucks. Okay,
everything sucks. The bullpen sucks, the offense sucks, the coaches suck,
the front office sucks, the owner sucks. What else am
(27:23):
I missing? The offense sucks. The stupid ass patch they
have on their freaking shot sucks terrible. The broadcast sucks.
Everything's dog meat. All of it is dog meat everything.
So you want to just pick a side or start
making excuses for this side of the ball or that
side of the ball. They're all clowns. The whole thing
is a freaking clown show packed in a big clown
(27:45):
car with clown makeup and excuses.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
You're sand The pitching's bad only because everybody's heard.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Well, that's a huge part of it. I'm just saying
they all stink. They all stink, And obviously the rotation
is not going to be as good when sixty percent
of it's on the injured list. How can you have this.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Baseball when you play in t Mobile Park half your games.
That's just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
When you got Logan Gilbert, Bryce Miller, and George Kirby
on the injured list, that's probably gonna help do it.
You can maybe make up for one of them, but
not all three of them. All right, So again, I
mean the problem is is that you were banking on
those guys being healthy again in twenty twenty five, and
they're not healthy again because no pitching staff does that.
And if they do what they do it for a year,
and certainly not for two years in a row, which
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is what these guys were banking on. So we'll see.
I'm guaranteed now that we've gone on this little rant here,
they're gonna turn it around. You welcome. They're gonna go
eight and one in their next nine games, and it's
all because of us. You can thank us. And in
a week and a half when the ems are back
in first place in five games up on the Astros,
remember this show. You're welcome. A little fun with audio
next on ninety three three kJ RFM. It's now time
(28:53):
for someday in Dig's one with Audio. Jimmy g pawn Star,
Jimmy mister Garoppolo. Now let's have some fun with audio.
All right, here we go on a busy Wednesday night
right here on ninety three three KJRFM. It's what you
came for, it's why you're here in the first place.
It's fun with audio. We do it every single day
on the radio program and we give it to you
(29:15):
for nothing. So don't why don't complain? Here we go, Dick,
did you happen to hear that? What? What's that? Dick?
We started the NFL after Browns many can't practice. Yesterday,
pass rusher Miles Garrett was asking the press conference how
he feels about facing Aaron Rodgers twice this next season
with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Dat Rodgers come coming into the aston art.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
What I think about it twice a year?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I think it's good opportunity to put him in the graveyard.
I love that absolutely. I'm sure somebody somewhere was offended,
but you can't say that it's terrible. It is football, though.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
People are much more loose with football terminology like that.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I think, like that's a battle, it's a war. It's like, yeah,
people are cool. He's talking about killing him, which I
love that attitude. I mean, if I'm a Browns fan,
I want to break Aaron Rodgers freaking elbow. I mean, look,
he'll recover, He'll be fine, you know. I mean, I'm
not talking about giving the guy polio, for God's sakes,
talking about you know, breaking the bone. Do you think
he could give him maybe you know, I don't know,
(30:18):
go to a bar somewhere and spit in his face.
I don't know how that works anymore, but I mean yeah,
I mean like if I told you before Super Bowl
forty nine Tom Brady can slip on the shower and
break his collar bone and not playing the game, what
would you have said? Of course, who's a ziby up.
Some fans wouldn't though. We want to beat him. You're
gonna get him, you know what. Then you're an idiot?
Then how's that sound all right? Either A you're lying
(30:40):
to yourself or B you're just playing stupid were do
you think Pete Carroll would have said if you asked
him that same question, he said, bring on, Jimmy, bring
him on. Let's see the backup man. How many times
did Dick Baird on the radio show you would go
on the air and literally say I want to see
the backup because you weren't of the quarterback to get hurt,
so the backup guy had to play. Again, we're not
talking about the law term illness. We're talking about just
(31:01):
like a little something something like that. He can't respond
to the Apple Cup with mac Kegel. Yeah, that the
backup of the star Jason Gesser, I believe was the starter,
was a starter out of the game right, and Keiko
had to come in and play on the backwards bass totally.
Robbinson with the pick. Now you're getting it all right, Dick?
Did you happen to hear that? Dave? What's that?
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Let's go too, you want to do three or four?
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Two?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Okay pro golf for Ben Griffin, who finished second of
the PGA Tour Memorial Tournament, recently joined Barstool's four play
pod earlier this week and talked about his expectations for
how tough the course will be at Oakmont Country Club
for the US Open this weekend.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
I was gonna ask you, would you you would sign
for even par right now?
Speaker 8 (31:45):
I think if he gave me plus four for the
entire week, I would probably take it right now, and
and I would feel confident. I would I would pre
I would be decently confident as long as it like
I don't know what the weather is today in Oakmont,
but if it's like, if the course is like decently
firm right now, I would sign four over and expect
to have a chance to win right now.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
So they went around. They asked a bunch of players
what an eighteen handicap would shoot at Oakmont, and a
lot of them said they won't even finish the round.
They they'd run out of balls. One hundred and twenty
one hundred and thirty, one hundred and forty. Phil Mickelson's
going on social media commenting on the scenes of all
these lawnmowers going back and forth, saying they're not cutting
jack squat on the golf course. It's going to be
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brutal man.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I am looking at the weather. It is eighty one today,
there is no rain in the forecast. It is eighty
six tomorrow. Those greens are going to be lightning. I
don't think plus four wins because there's always going to
be somebody right, There's always going to be two or
three people that are right around par But I I
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think one under.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, yeah, well even it's gonna be miserable for some people.
It's gonna be miserable to watch. There's gonna be a
lot of struggling going on out there. There's no doubt
about it. We're gonna be saying one of us a
lot this weekend. You gotta break Petros Papadochus Gonna Joy
next on ninety three three kJ r FM
Where we go, Here we go, It's Wednesday. We got
a big one. Jed Fish is gonna join us on
the radio show at six pm. I'm gonna work backwards
here by the way if I can. We'll get Dick's
picks for the US Open at Oakmont at five point
forty five today. Larry Stone the Doctor gonna join us
at five o'clock and tell us what the hell's going
(00:20):
on with Mariner baseball. Petros Paparaka, we'll be here at
four pm. We'll do a little fun with audio. There's
a rumor that greyz Abel maybe calling the radio show
as well. And then Mike Florio, Mike Florio is gonna
join us in about six minutes from now. I figure
if I just keep repeating the schedule for the show
over and over as and over again, then it'll be
(00:45):
three ten. Florio will be on the phone and we
won't have to talk about the disaster that is Mariner
baseball right now after a sweep at the hands of
the year Arizonta Diamondbacks and I don't know, man, it's
just kind of groundhog day here. Boys and girls. You
know you've been doing this for a long time. How
many years you been here now, Dick Faane, by the way,
twenty eight, twenty eight, Okay, I'm gonna just round up
(01:07):
and say twenty nine because November for me will be
thirty one. So that means that we've got sixty years
combined on this radio station. I mean playoff games, fifty
years combined on the radio station. We have not one
World Series to talk about, don't even have a Game
seven of the American League Championship Series. Closest they got
(01:30):
was Game six in nineteen ninety five against the Tribe,
and Game six, I believe in two thousand. I think
it was against the Mariners. I don't know, dude, that
was twenty five years ago. I mean, look, this is
just crazy. And I was asking Dick off the year
and I'm just gonna preface this by saying this, I
don't believe that Dan Wilson should be fired as the
(01:50):
Mariner manager. Okay, But I asked Dick, and I'll ask
everybody out there, what's the reaction if somehow someway John
Stanton trips and slips and knocks his head on the
floor of his kitchen or walks into a wall and
jars something loose inside his brain and when he comes
(02:11):
to Okay, A couple of minutes later, he comes to tiany.
He wakes up one point one jigawatts. Yeah, he hit
his head on the back of the toilet, clear now,
and he saw an image of Jerry to Poto and
Dan Wilson getting fired after the Mariners lost eight of
nine and eleven of fourteen and fell to under five hundred.
(02:35):
What if Jerry or John Stanton just wakes up and
all of a sudden, I'll just say this, I don't
give a damn. He wakes up after hitting his head
on the toilet, and he looks between his legs and
he sees testicles the size of basketballs. Wow, hanging between
his legs. That might be a medical problem. Okay, And
he says, you know what, I've had enough, had enough
(02:56):
of this. I've had enough. This was supposed to be
a really good baseball team. This was supposed to be
a team led by an elite pitching staff. This was
supposed to be a baseball team that had a good
offensive team. At least, that's what my president of baseball
operations told me. And you guys stink, you're all fired.
Everybody's out. I'm gonna do something nobody expects me to do,
(03:19):
and I'm gonna fire everybody. Many act you're the manager, Hollander,
you're the new president of baseball ops. I'm done, and
I'm gonna send a message to my fan base that
this crap is not going to be tolerated for one
more second. Of course he won't do that at all,
But what's the reaction, Dick, if you do. I think
the reaction is celebration, absolute celebration, surprise. Shock.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
However, I don't think doing that would change anything, Particularly
if you brought Manny act into managing, Justin Hollander in
too be the president of baseball operations.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I think you'd probably just end up seeing the same thing.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
But the act of doing it, I think would evoke
ay wow from Mariner Nation, a.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Wow that we haven't seen in a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
One of the reasons why I heard Maniacta was not
hired as the manager is because he was not the
Jerry Depoto clone that Scott Servis and Dan Wilson are. Okay,
and I'm not saying that meaning they run the baseball
team the way that Jerry Depoto wants it run, right,
I mean Jerry's the guy behind the curtain really in
(04:24):
the end, pushing all of these buttons. And you know,
Maniacta would have come in here and he would have
maybe roffled a few feathers. I mean, look, I don't
know if that's the case or not. I've heard that.
I just know this that many Acta was next in
line behind Scott's Service and he didn't get the job.
For whatever reason, he didn't get the job. Okay, So
again not saying Wilson should be fired, but if John
(04:47):
Stanton just shocked the world and fired everybody. The Philadelphia
Phillies last year on excuse me, three years ago on
June the third, Jackson, they fired Joe Girardi and they
went to the World Series that year after they fired
their manager. You want to know another situation where firing
a manager had an immediate positive impact on a baseball team.
(05:10):
How about the twenty twenty four Seattle Mariners where they
fired Scott Service. They went twenty one to thirteen in
their final thirty four games of the year with that
guy right there, Dan Wilson as their manager. So I
just know this. There is obviously a date, and I'm
not saying it's today. I'm not saying it's in a
month from now or two weeks from now, but there
(05:32):
has to be a date where things can just get
so bad by a certain date where they have no
choice but to make some kind of a move to
either a save face or be saved the season. What
we need is a disaster of a season. That's what
we need.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Well, the mat tw you should be hoping, well, we
can't continue to have is eighty five eighty six win
seasons because that just convinces you that you're in it
until the last week of the year and nobody gets fired.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well, and now they have a situation where they're coming
home and they got the Guardians, they got Boston, they
got the Cubs, and they got Minnesota. Those are all
four pretty good teams. I mean, Boston's under five hundred,
but barely. Those are four pretty decent teams. And they
got a rough stretch here. They got to figure this
out or that disaster of a season that you're talking
about might be a couple of weeks away from actually
(06:15):
becoming fruition are becoming reality. We'll talk about this more
a little bit later. Mike Florio joining us right now.
Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (06:45):
All right. By the way, grey example is not going
to happen today. Coach move some meetings around so ain't
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So okay, thanks, all right, Mike Florio joining us right
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KJR fifteen at simply sattult dot com. Mikey, how are
(07:06):
you pow? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
So sing on? Guys?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
How are you pretty good? So all these holdouts we're
seeing right now? TJ. Watt, Terry McLaurin. Obviously, I know
there's more guys that are holding out right now, but
how many of them do you actually believe will result?
Trey Hendrickson in new contracts and bigger and better deals
for the players that are doing the holding out.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Well, and let's remember they aren't classic holdouts in the
sense that they're holding out the training camp. They're skipping
mandatory mini camp. They have the right to do that
under the Collective Bargaining Agreement. To many people say, oh,
on your contract, Well, every player has two contracts that
governs his existence on an NFL roster. One he got
individual contract with the team, and two there's a broader
(07:53):
contract that covers all players and all teams. It's called
the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
It gives the players the ability.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
They choose so to stay away from mentoring mini camp.
They can be fined up to a total of one
hundred and four thousand dollars for a three day absence
of the mandatory mini camp. So some guys like James Cook,
the Bills running back, who believes he's earned a new contract,
wants that new contract. He said, I like my money.
He decided to show up. These other guys has stayed away,
and I think calmer heads will prevail and deals will
(08:23):
get done. In Cincinnati, you never know what the hell
they're gonna do, because I don't think they really care.
And if Trey Hendrickson decides to draw a line in
the sand and not show up, he could end up
being this year as a son Reddick who held out
into the regular season and ended up losing millions of dollars.
But for the most part, I think TJ. Watt gets
his deal. I think that Terry McLaurin gets his I
think when the Commanders traded for Deebo Samuel, who's making
(08:45):
more money, they shore Terry McLain they knew they're going
to have to do something. Just the question of getting
it done. It's a question of determining when the clock
strikes midnight. It's the deadline driven business. Both sides need
to understand when midnight is and then that's when the
deal gets done.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Mike, we haven't talked to you since the final piece
of the quarterback plan fell into place with Aaron Rodgers
going to the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I was a little surprised to see that they got
such a bargain on them. Is that simply just because
there was no other demand for Aaron Rodgers, They're basically
bidding against them. Say he was bidding against himself.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Well, at the end of the day, Yeah, that was
the only team that wanted him, but he made it
clear he wasn't looking to get huge money, and there
was some back and forth between him and his agent
because the agent ultimately put his name on this deal,
and if it's not a great deal, it's a reflection
on the agent. And yes, the agent can take the position.
I told him not to take that little. I told
him to take more. I told him he should take
(09:38):
even more. In my understanding is the agent, David Dunn,
got Rogers to take more than what he wanted, and
it would have been less than the thirteen point sixty
five million dollar base. But it's a hell of a
bargain for the Steelers whatever Aaron Rodgers does, when you
consider they got him for thirteen point sixty five and
the most they'll pay him is nineteen and a half million,
And if they end up paying nineteen and a half million,
(09:58):
it would be the best nearly twenty million ever spent
in the history of the league because it will mean
they've won the Super Bowl, because that's one of the
triggers that activates the maximum package that gets it to
nineteen five.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Well, I guess the question is how big of an
upgrade is it over what they would have had at quarterback.
I mean, my argument is it's a pretty damn big
upgrade over what they would have had a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Well, and it's a big upgrade over what they've had
at quarterback since Ben Roethlisberger retired, and possibly since twenty
twenty and twenty twenty one. The Steelers made Ben Roethlisberger
an offer that was significant enough that it wasn't an insult,
but low enough that they thought he would not take it,
and they were surprised when he took it. They thought
he would just retire, and so twenty one was kind
(10:43):
of a weird year. But really ever since then, Kenny
Pickett for two years. Last year, Russell Wilson and Justin Fields.
This year it was going to be Mason Rudolph and
Skyler Thompson and Will Howard until Rogers decided to join
the team. And I believe that he told Mike Tomlin
(11:03):
a while ago that he was coming there, and that
they decided that Rogers decided, maybe they decided together. He's
less of distraction if he's not signed and not participating
in the offseason program than if he signed and staying away.
So they waited until right before the mandatory mini camp.
They get him signed, and he is an upgrade over
what they had. And that's what I say whenever the
(11:24):
issue comes up with fans that are skeptical about this.
The minute he starts firing missiles in a regular season
game and they start winning, and they have three winnable
games right out of the gates, all due respective to Seahawks,
but that game in Pittsburgh is one of the Steelers
should win. They have a couple of road games wrapped
around the home game against Seattle before they go to
Ireland to play the Vikings. They should start three and oh.
(11:45):
And if they start three and oh, and then they
go to Ireland and they beat the Vikings and they
go into their break at four and oh, the fans
are going to be feeling pretty good about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Mike, what's going on in Atlanta?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Will Kirk Cousins be on the roster at the start
of the season, and same question for Kyle Pitts or
will they try to move him?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Well, I think at this point for Cousins, it's a
pretty simple analysis. They're going to hold him until somebody
gets injured, and we've seen in the past when a
quarterback suddenly suffers a season ending injury, there is a
potential market for another team that has an available quarterback.
The Vikings went through it twice. Twenty sixteen, Teddy Bridgewater's
knee imploded and they gave up a first round pick
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and a fourth round pick to get Sam Bradford away
from the Eagles. Twenty twenty three, when Kirk cousins achilles
tendon blew out, it was right at the trade deadline.
They ended up scouring the market and they got Josh
Dobbs to come in and play for a while, until
that didn't work out and they benched him for someone else.
So we see desperation arise when a team loses a
starting quarterback. And for Cousins, who'll get twenty seven and
(12:49):
a half million dollars this year and he just waits
and one of the guys that could get injured with
Michael Penick junior. You know, I'm always reluctant to mention
names when we talk about possibility of injury, but we
know injury happened. Twenty twenty three. There were numerous quarterbacks
that were injured and out for the year and that
may be the only way out of this for the Falcons,
And of course comes to worst, they keep Cousins around,
(13:09):
and after this year they cut him. They owe him
ten million dollars, fully guaranteed, subject off that next year
he'll go somewhere else and make more than ten million
dollars and that'll be it for the Falcons and Cousins
ninety million dollars later, but they at least will have
gotten the guy that they believe is going to be
their franchise quarterback in Michael Pennis Junior.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
What's going on with the chief Stadium and their future
home wherever or whatever that is.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Well, you know, at a time when we've seen teams move,
the Raiders, the Chargers, the Rams, the Chiefs have a
situation where they've got two options that are local, two
Kansas cities, one on each side of the border, and
in Missouri. See how this all came to be. Last year,
(13:52):
there was a public vote on the extension of a
sales tax that would have gone to renovating Arrowhead Stadium
and building a new baseball stadium for the Royals. That
vote overwhelmingly lost, even with the Chiefs riding two straight
super Bowl wins. That vote died, then came Kansas, and
now Kansas has an offer on the table that they
(14:14):
claim expired the end of this month. Missouri today passed
a bill that is waiting for the governor to sign it,
and they fully expect the governor will sign it that
will pay four to fifty percent of a one point
five billion dollars one point one five excuse me billion
dollar renovation to Arrowhead. The Chiefs at some point are
going to have to decide what do we want to do.
Do we want to renovate Arrowhead and spend less. Do
(14:35):
we want a new dome stadium in Kansas and spend
more but possibly get a super Bowl in Kansas City,
have other events they'll make more money over the long haul.
And that's where we see a lot of these cold
weather teams going. They want to have dome stadiums because
they believe they can attract major events all year long,
maybe at Super Bowl. You know, we've seen it time
(14:56):
and again. Cold weather cities that have dome stadiums that
are paid for at least in part by public money
end up with Super Bowls. So that's the challenge for
the Chiefs and the statement they issued after Missouri passed
the build a day. It's clear the chiefs have not
yet made a decision and they're milking this thing and
they're in the driver seat right now between Missouri and Kansas.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Mike, what do you think of Peter King's premonition that
we're going to have no NFL draft in the future
and it'll be more like a college selection process with recruits.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I was stunned when he said that on TFT Live
a couple of weeks ago, because the draft itself is
baked into the current collective bargaining agreement. It's one of
the realities of a multi employer bargaining unit where you've
got thirty two teams that otherwise could not come together
and make rules like that. They're thirty two independent businesses.
You can't make combined rules for your legor force unless
(15:48):
you have a joint nationwide union, which the NFL has.
So the NFL, I don't think, is ever going to
voluntarily give up the draft, but you never know what
may happen, and we see things change all the time.
And Peters brought a point was this, if the draft
ever would go away, the NFL would come up with
something else that would take its place and be as successful.
The NFL has a way of just kind of tripping
(16:10):
over its own two feet into better situations. The Draft
has become as big as it is now because it's
this road show that draws hundreds of thousands of people.
That happened accidentally because there was a scheduling conflict at
Radio City Music Hall in twenty fifteen, they had an
Easter spectacular. The NFL couldn't get them to move it,
so they said, fine, we'll go somewhere else for the draft. Hey,
(16:32):
let's go to Chicago. They did it one year in Chicago,
they liked it. They went back to next year, they
liked it. They decided we're going to start going to
other cities. And when they went to Philadelphia in twenty seventeen,
that was kind of when it all exploded. So the
point is, if it ever does happen, it isn't doom
and gloom for the NFL. Whatever replaces the Draft, the
NFL will figure out how to turn that into a
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big deal too.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Ah, Mike, we we love you. Thank you for being
a part of the show. Oh thanks, We'll talking to Bubble.
Thank you bout it. Hike floor. You see him trying
to be complimentary. For God's sakes, the Mariners, Oh no,
we suck again lose to the Diamondbacks. Dan Wilson has spoken, Uh,
we're gonna talk about this. I got some numbers that'll
(17:15):
make your head spin. So if you don't feel like
having your head spin off your neck, you might want
to flip off the radio station and go do something
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Speaker 5 (17:26):
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Speaker 1 (17:42):
Whereas it's a my fly ball way back.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Hen it's God for another Gino Grand Slam.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
That's his third this year. Waino, it's Gino when it's
four to two. That is the voice of mister Cindy
Brunson aka Steve Berthume, who is married Sidney Brunton. That's right,
the voice of the Diamondbacks on baseball down there and
Arizona Big thanks to whatever network carries a Diamondback baseball
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do we know.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Online? They were the first team to do that fully
online thing where the mayor has went to obviously Sunshine Sports.
It's just it's Arizona Diamondbacks TV, a.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Great Fruit Network, whatever the hell it's called down there.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
I called anything it's online from fully.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Cactus channel, whatever it is down there. So yeah, well
I don't know, man, I just uh, every now and
then you just kind of run out of fumes and uh,
you know, look, there's a chance that this baseball team
obviously turns this thing around and makes the run. Hell,
maybe they shocked the world and make the World Series
and win. Maybe this is the bottom of it. For
twenty twenty five, and in three years from now we're
(18:51):
on the air talking about back to back to back
to back World Series championships by this baseball team. You
never know. Crazier things, well they are. They always start slow, right,
that's right.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
Have they actually crazier things happened?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, the Phillies fired their manager and went to the
World Series. I don't think that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Years that's not crazier than the Mariners going to the
World How about how about Pete Carroll being the coach
of the Seahawks when he was at USC how about
the Sonics being in Oklahoma when they were playing the
Chicago Bulls.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
If I would have walked up to you during the
NBA Finals in nineteen ninety six and just planted an
elbow right into your skinny rib cage there and said, Dick,
just so you know, in thirteen years from now, that
team right there you're watching is going to play in
Oklahoma City, you would have said there's.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Been more weird win the World Series, because at the
time the Mariners were really good.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I can think of crazier stuff. Jacksonty. You just set
it up as back to back to back. I think
I said back to back to back to back. I
may have said four might be crazy. I can see
no way I figure out, you know what they're doing here.
I just think it took a literal I just thought
of this in the break.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I mean, think of the teams they're losing to, right, Washington, Minnesota, Baltimore,
Los Angeles, Arizona, right, all teams that three weeks ago.
We were like, Hey, I want that guy from that team,
that guy from that team, that guy from that team.
So they are so opposed to giving up guys like
Harry Ford and their precious prospects that they've just decided, Hey,
we're just gonna lose to the teams we could potentially.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Trade for, and then we're not gonna have to give
up Harry Ford and the rest of the guys the
trade dead.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I don't know, Dick, I just I just know this
that this is just I'm just so tired, you know,
I'm just exhausted, right, it's tiring, tires some whatever. I'm
just so past the point of just I don't give
a damn.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
What about Mount Softy July, every mousey Mount Mount Softy
is crapped out whatever he can crap out, and it's
the tank's empty.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
There's nothing left in safety. Welcome to the world of apathet.
There's nothing left in there. I mean, I just I'm
just dehydrated now right there. There's nothing left to all right,
everything is now gone. I feel like I'm getting an
annual colonoscopy from this baseball team. Every single year. I'm
getting a new cold and blue by this team. And
there's literally you guys, remember what happened to me last
(21:13):
year when I had my pooper Scooper. Yeah, and I
got all sick because I got dehydrated that's the way
I feel right now. Metaphorically, I absolutely feel like that.
But I'm just I'm just done. My tank is unempty.
I mean, how many more metaphors, adjectives, how many more
comparisons analogies can we come up with on this radio
show to say the same freaking thing fifteen different ways?
(21:34):
What's the what's the translator app that we promote here
as a Babel? Is that right? What's the website or
whatever it is or Rosetta Stone blah blah blah. Is
there a babel version for baseball fans of a Suckey
baseball team where you can just put in the same
words over and over again and they tell you it's
like a thesaurus different age for baseball fans. It just,
(21:55):
you know, maybe I'll learn German or Korean or Portuguese
or Japanese or something. Maybe I should, you know, go
talk to Roland Smith and learn Australia. Maybe he can
tell me how to say the same different thing fifteen
freaking different ways. Because I'm just done, and Mariner fans
are done, and everybody's pissed, and they're beyond pissed, and
they're tired, and they're apathetic and my god, it's just
(22:18):
unbelievable what has happened to this team. And I was
looking it up last night. As a matter of fact,
I was laying in bed. I mean, here I am.
I'm laying next to my beautiful, hot wife, all right,
and instead of making love to her, okay, I'm sitting
there and I'm running numbers on the Mariners going back
to last year when they were ten games up on
five hundred. All right, I got this hot piece laying
(22:41):
right next to me in bed, and instead I'm sitting
there letting the Mariners occupy my mind.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
How you're saying us, you're saying, you're insinuating you actually
had a choice of one of the other.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You had a choice. I think I think maybe if
I want to out, I don't know, I've given her
a check or something or good. But yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Think it is hot pock piece of ass laying next
to me, and I'm thinking about the freaking Mariners. I mean,
people's sex lives are being ruined by this baseball team.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
It's unbelievable. And I'm literally looking back on June eighteenth
to twenty twenty four. You know what, June eighteenth. The
twenty twenty four was, by the way, anybody know, anybody.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Was that't the one where they were up by ten games.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Ten games up. They were ten games up. They've played
one hundred and fifty four games since then, No, which
back in the sixties would have been a full season.
By the way, Okay, they played one hundred and fifty
four games. Since then, they are seventy four and eighty
since they were ten games over five hundred, they're playing
forty eight percent baseball. Since then, they look prosperity in
(23:45):
the face and said, no, we're good. We're good. Don't
want any of it, don't want any of it whatsoever.
All the good vibes from Cal Rawley's home run, the
good vibes from the Toronto Series in Toronto, the way
they fought their asses off against the Astros, not we're good.
We don't want any of them. Get rid of them.
People hate this baseball team right now. Yes, they hate
(24:05):
this baseball team. And because they hate the baseball team,
they hate the ownership group. They hate the players, they
hate the manager, they hate the front office, they hate
the broadcasters, they hate the people on the air talking
about the baseball team. There's just hate. The Mariners are
spawning hate, you know, all over this city with what
they've done to this fan base. They may as well
(24:27):
have walked up to every fan Honestly, I swear to
God last year when they blew that ten game Lee
Jackson and missed the playoffs, they may as well have
had John Stanton, Chris Larson and whoever owns a piece
of that baseball team walk up to every fan base
waiting online to get into the stadium an opening day
this year and just kick them all right in the balls,
every single one, kick by kick, after what they did
(24:48):
to this group a year ago. So it's just incredible.
And I'm just I'm tired, man, I'm tired. So I'm
fifty two years old, imf and die for Mariner fans.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
I think the best point of the last week and
a oh, it was the last night on the broadcast
when Randy Johnson came up and ripped Howard Lincoln a
new one. Right Apart from that, there really hasn't been
a bright spot for mari and her fans in the
last week and a half.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Well, I was actually thinking about that today that what
has been I mean, the best, the high water mark
of the season probably was that comeback against the Astros. Right, Yeah,
when they came back and then.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Followed very closely by the walk off for Cole Young.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Right, turned everything off around. They were playing baseball. Well,
they've taken that and flushed that down the toilet. Oh,
those good vibes are now gone. Right, It's like what's
the saying, never look a gift horse in the mouth
or whatever, blah blah blah. I mean, were they just
keep being given Dick these incredible gifts and they flush
every single one of them right down the toilet.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
They were twenty first and runs scored last year, and
we all thought they would be slightly better this year. Well,
they have been slightly better this year. They're fifteenth and
run scored in baseball. I think every Mariner fan would
have signed up for that.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
At the beginning of the show, they're twenty sixth in
the last okay and nineteen I understand that batting average
in twenty fifth in o PS.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I'm I'm gonna give for a second, I'm gonna give
the offense a damn break. Why this pitching staff has
gone from number one in baseball? You want to know
where they are right now, Okay, twentieth Yeah, because he
is a twenty sixty percent of their.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Staff has been on the IL. I mean, what do
you expect Their bullpen is horrendous, partly because sixty percent
of their rotation has been on the IL.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
I would also say, Dick Porque Nolo's dose. Why can't
you criticize both?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Well, you can criticize both, but I don't think it's
if you have just let's do. He's trying to be
a contrariot.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
He wants to be, but I think eighty percent of
Mariner fan vitriol's always pointed the offense, and believe me,
they deserve some, but god not eighty percent.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, let me just make this simple. Pitch Your staff sucks.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Man and Emerson Hancock has done a decent job replacing
what a Logan Gilbert would give you. He's not Logan Gilbert,
but he's done a decent job. Brian Wus stepped up,
it has been.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Brian WO got his ass kick today though, well he
gave up. You had a mistake today. But I'm what
Brian Wo's done this year. I just think I'm gonna
make this real simple for you. The whole freaking thing sucks. Okay,
everything sucks. The bullpen sucks, the offense sucks, the coaches suck,
the front office sucks, the owner sucks. What else am
(27:23):
I missing? The offense sucks. The stupid ass patch they
have on their freaking shot sucks terrible. The broadcast sucks.
Everything's dog meat. All of it is dog meat everything.
So you want to just pick a side or start
making excuses for this side of the ball or that
side of the ball. They're all clowns. The whole thing
is a freaking clown show packed in a big clown
(27:45):
car with clown makeup and excuses.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
You're sand The pitching's bad only because everybody's heard.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Well, that's a huge part of it. I'm just saying
they all stink. They all stink, And obviously the rotation
is not going to be as good when sixty percent
of it's on the injured list. How can you have this.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Baseball when you play in t Mobile Park half your games.
That's just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
When you got Logan Gilbert, Bryce Miller, and George Kirby
on the injured list, that's probably gonna help do it.
You can maybe make up for one of them, but
not all three of them. All right, So again, I
mean the problem is is that you were banking on
those guys being healthy again in twenty twenty five, and
they're not healthy again because no pitching staff does that.
And if they do what they do it for a year,
and certainly not for two years in a row, which
(28:29):
is what these guys were banking on. So we'll see.
I'm guaranteed now that we've gone on this little rant here,
they're gonna turn it around. You welcome. They're gonna go
eight and one in their next nine games, and it's
all because of us. You can thank us. And in
a week and a half when the ems are back
in first place in five games up on the Astros,
remember this show. You're welcome. A little fun with audio
next on ninety three three kJ RFM. It's now time
(28:53):
for someday in Dig's one with Audio. Jimmy g pawn Star,
Jimmy mister Garoppolo. Now let's have some fun with audio.
All right, here we go on a busy Wednesday night
right here on ninety three three KJRFM. It's what you
came for, it's why you're here in the first place.
It's fun with audio. We do it every single day
on the radio program and we give it to you
(29:15):
for nothing. So don't why don't complain? Here we go, Dick,
did you happen to hear that? What? What's that? Dick?
We started the NFL after Browns many can't practice. Yesterday,
pass rusher Miles Garrett was asking the press conference how
he feels about facing Aaron Rodgers twice this next season
with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Dat Rodgers come coming into the aston art.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
What I think about it twice a year?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I think it's good opportunity to put him in the graveyard.
I love that absolutely. I'm sure somebody somewhere was offended,
but you can't say that it's terrible. It is football, though.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
People are much more loose with football terminology like that.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I think, like that's a battle, it's a war. It's like, yeah,
people are cool. He's talking about killing him, which I
love that attitude. I mean, if I'm a Browns fan,
I want to break Aaron Rodgers freaking elbow. I mean, look,
he'll recover, He'll be fine, you know. I mean, I'm
not talking about giving the guy polio, for God's sakes,
talking about you know, breaking the bone. Do you think
he could give him maybe you know, I don't know,
(30:18):
go to a bar somewhere and spit in his face.
I don't know how that works anymore, but I mean yeah,
I mean like if I told you before Super Bowl
forty nine Tom Brady can slip on the shower and
break his collar bone and not playing the game, what
would you have said? Of course, who's a ziby up.
Some fans wouldn't though. We want to beat him. You're
gonna get him, you know what. Then you're an idiot?
Then how's that sound all right? Either A you're lying
(30:40):
to yourself or B you're just playing stupid were do
you think Pete Carroll would have said if you asked
him that same question, he said, bring on, Jimmy, bring
him on. Let's see the backup man. How many times
did Dick Baird on the radio show you would go
on the air and literally say I want to see
the backup because you weren't of the quarterback to get hurt,
so the backup guy had to play. Again, we're not
talking about the law term illness. We're talking about just
(31:01):
like a little something something like that. He can't respond
to the Apple Cup with mac Kegel. Yeah, that the
backup of the star Jason Gesser, I believe was the starter,
was a starter out of the game right, and Keiko
had to come in and play on the backwards bass totally.
Robbinson with the pick. Now you're getting it all right, Dick?
Did you happen to hear that? Dave? What's that?
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Let's go too, you want to do three or four?
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Two?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Okay pro golf for Ben Griffin, who finished second of
the PGA Tour Memorial Tournament, recently joined Barstool's four play
pod earlier this week and talked about his expectations for
how tough the course will be at Oakmont Country Club
for the US Open this weekend.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
I was gonna ask you, would you you would sign
for even par right now?
Speaker 8 (31:45):
I think if he gave me plus four for the
entire week, I would probably take it right now, and
and I would feel confident. I would I would pre
I would be decently confident as long as it like
I don't know what the weather is today in Oakmont,
but if it's like, if the course is like decently
firm right now, I would sign four over and expect
to have a chance to win right now.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
So they went around. They asked a bunch of players
what an eighteen handicap would shoot at Oakmont, and a
lot of them said they won't even finish the round.
They they'd run out of balls. One hundred and twenty
one hundred and thirty, one hundred and forty. Phil Mickelson's
going on social media commenting on the scenes of all
these lawnmowers going back and forth, saying they're not cutting
jack squat on the golf course. It's going to be
(32:26):
brutal man.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I am looking at the weather. It is eighty one today,
there is no rain in the forecast. It is eighty
six tomorrow. Those greens are going to be lightning. I
don't think plus four wins because there's always going to
be somebody right, There's always going to be two or
three people that are right around par But I I
(32:47):
think one under.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, yeah, well even it's gonna be miserable for some people.
It's gonna be miserable to watch. There's gonna be a
lot of struggling going on out there. There's no doubt
about it. We're gonna be saying one of us a
lot this weekend. You gotta break Petros Papadochus Gonna Joy
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