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June 11, 2025 30 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Petros Papadakis about the state of Los Angeles right now and the state of college sports with paying players, then listen and react to comments from Dan Wilson after another Mariners loss today.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for our weekly conversation with college football analyst
Petros Papa Nikas.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Not that I'm a smart guy, I'm stupid.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
I don't know bout.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Now With Petros Peer's Dave Softy Muller, Let's.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Say if I remember how to do this, it's been
a few weeks. Baby, joining us right now on the
radio show here. He is the prince of big Skin
from southern California, what half of the world famous legendary
Petros and Money show in La father of the Month,
husband of the Year, one damn fine Greek American and

(00:55):
a freaking celebrity in his native country. Trust me, I know,
Oh they know his name and sing his praises everywhere.
It's our friend, Petros Papadocus, brought to you by.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Sweet James, the dense beard of justice. Sweet James knows
how to come through for you. If you've ever been
in a car accident, motorcycle accident, rock thrown at your car,
maybe somebody blew up your whimmole.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Oh wow yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Either way, sweet James could come through. Give him a
call with his dense beard at eight hundred nine million.
That's eight hundred and nine million.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Oh, it's great to hear your voice. I feel like
it's been forever, you know. Okay, yeah, no doing good.
I just who know, you could bring home laryngitis from
Santorini and I brought it home with him.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Man, I don't told you not to go there. I
told you it was crowded.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
You know what it actually was in crowded.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
It was a hell of a time to year to
be there, and a couple of the cruise ships hanging around.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
You know. I guess they told you what time of
year to go to Greece.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
You did. You said to go in May, right, but
you said also.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
It would be incredibly packed in Santorini and it was not.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well that's cool, masic. Well they had been earthquakes all year.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
That is true.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
I swam with the Caldera. That was fun though, Man,
that's cool. Yeah, So you swam in a volcano. Yeah,
I came on to.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
What I'm feeling very h I gotta pull it in.
We're live.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Why, Yeah, you gonna relax.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
We're lying. Almost said something about your your genitals.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Well you know what I was gonna ask you about that,
because everywhere I go, I'm walking around Athens, I'm walking
around Ea and Fiara and some of the shops that
I'm seeing these wooden peckers for sale with bottle openers
on the end of them.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, the hell's that all about? What's wrong with you people?

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Ancient porn? The Creeks are. The Creeks are quite preoccupied
with sex. What kind of.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Did data know that when she got together with you?

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Well, I didn't buy any if you're just wondering, they
didn't get.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Me a stack of cards with some ancient phallicies on it.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
No, I didn't do that. I didn't do that.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
But there's only so many places in the world that
you can walk by and see thirty five hundred years
old forum and then across the street by a wooden
wiener with a bottle opener on the end of it.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
So God bless you man.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Well, you know, in Greece, we are older than Rome
and older than most societies, an ancient society you visited,
and they've got it whittled down to what really matters.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, apparently, I mean it really is. It's the fruit
of life. I mean, why not?

Speaker 2 (03:22):
What the hell? Hey, But that's why you see everybody
wearing those old big Johnson T shirts.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
You mentioned way Mo's on fire. I gotta ask you,
how are things going down there? You got the situation
under control?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I mean no. But at the same time, like you know,
I mean, LA is huge, you know, I mean, LA
is a gigantic town, and the sprawl of Los Angeles
is intimidating. You know. One of my favorite things I
hate flying, but one of my favorite things it was

(03:55):
used to be flying with somebody, you know, on the
way home to but they are going to LA and
they've never been there before. And when the town starts,
they think the plane's going to land, and it's like, no, man,
It's a huge town. This town absorbs events like the
super Bowl, like the Olympics, like any World Cup, anything

(04:20):
you can think of. It absorbs those events like a punch,
like the super Bowl happens here and you don't even
know it. Sure, and you've been to the Super Bowl
all over the country, Softy, you know what it does
to most towns. I mean, it's played thirty minutes outside
Miami Beach, but you can't drive in Miami Biscayne Base
out beach. It's gridlocked everywhere in Miami and other towns

(04:44):
they just can't absorb it. So anyway, the point is
there are up. There's a place downtown which nobody I mean,
downtown is a disgrace, Downtown Los Angeles, and I'm sure
there's places in Seattle you feel this way about now,
And downtown was always really weird. But I used to
live down there and as a young man, you wouldn't

(05:07):
be scared to walk around late at night or go
get food or whatever. But now that's not the case.
It's not the case at all, and it hasn't been
the case for years. There's literally three buildings parallel to
the east of the Crypto dot Com Arena, which used
to be Staples Center, that have been taken over by

(05:29):
homeless people, like skyscrapers like the Carter in newjack City.
It's real, and it's been like that for years. I mean,
downtown is a cesspool. It is a mess and skid row.
When I lived down there was big and was filled
with drug addicts, and now it's like five times bigger
with five times as many drug addicts. So what's going

(05:53):
on downtown is real, but it doesn't affect you know,
there's a reason you hear from other people like nothing's up,
but we're all going about our lives. Yeah, that's true.
You know. In fact, driving on the one ten freeway yesterday,
it was like COVID level traffic. No one was out
because everybody thought that there was you know, their car
was going to get stopped by a protester or something

(06:15):
or a rioter. And that's the thing. There's both, you know,
running the streets. And I think they made more arrests
today than the LAPD I'm saying has made more arrest
today than the other three four days combined. So they'll
stem it out. But if that answers your question, you know,

(06:36):
it is popping off in downtown LA. But there's nobody.
I don't know anybody that lives downtown anymore. I mean,
you know, but people's businesses are getting fed up. I
mean that's real. Little Tokyo is a real place where
you know, I spend a lot of time near downtown
in Chinatown. Forget it, Jake, it's Chinatown, and you know
there's a curfew, so everybody's closing early. So yeah, that

(06:59):
it affects a lot lot of people. But I mean
it's not it's not like people think that it's a
small town in the way that they live in a
small town, even if they live in a city like Seattle,
if they've never been to La La is.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Gigantic, Well, it's just amazing and obviously different scenarios entirely,
you know. But the fires you had obviously, you know
a few months back and talk that was real.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
I mean, you go anywhere in La and you couldn't
see straight right, you know, weeks and you were coughing
in the air was a certain way, and everybody knows
somebody that lost a home that was a much different.
This is a you know, this is a politically charged situation. Yeah,
but at the same time, you know, there's there's never
an excuse to blow stuff up, and that's what's been

(07:43):
happening for days and day.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Unless it's the fourth of July and it's nineteen eighty five, well.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
We do a lot of that. Well, well, we have
a lot. I mean, let's be honest. The fourth of
July and Dodgers win the series. Every single Latino in
this town doesn't have fireworks. They have mortars. I'm Syrian
and it is via freaking no.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Oh God.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Every street prides themselves on how much more risk they
can take with their digits. Everybody's trying to be Jason
Pierre Paul in this town. You should see so that
got blew his hand off? Yeah I did at the
Dodger parade or what did the Dodgers celebrates? Hey, I
would I would blow a handoff from a marin a
world series title, just so you know, I mean you

(08:22):
would not.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
I would consider it, at least for a second or two.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Petro says with us, So Jedfish is going to be
on with us at six pm to night, this radio
version of Ronnie Lott. What no, not not Jed Fish,
Jason Pierre or me right exactly?

Speaker 4 (08:41):
He only blew half a finger, not an entire hand.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
So Jed's gonna be on at six So we're gonna
talk about this how settlement thing and how it affects you,
dub and what Jed Fish's responsibility.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
I mean this thing.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
I don't know, man, it just feels like there's a
lawsuit here waiting to happen. Wilner talked about that yesterday.
You're a former player, you tell me, will this be
enough to play? Kate you when you've got some dorks
in some office sitting behind the computer with an algorithm
deciding how much you should make based on what endorsement
you sign with a certain company.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, you know they need to rein it in, but
the NC double A is probably not the entity that's
going to be able to do it. I mean, they just,
you know, they're like they're like the gambling Commission in
that song Atlantic City by Bruce Springsteen. They're barely hanging on,
I mean by the skin of their teeth. And I

(09:34):
don't see their super double secret Dean Wormer Probation committee
going around and being like, Hey, Saxby's is going to
pay your loss? You know, I don't see that working out.
I don't know, you know, like when it comes to
the courts and then this appeals court.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Isn't that chicken the fried Chicken place, Zaxby's, isn't that Yeah? Yeah,
they did the ball game down there in Texas yeah,
you know.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
It's like a pool and weed eater bowl, you know.
I mean remember the Beef O Brady Bowl. I used
to love how it said beef because I would say beef,
Oh Brady, beef, beef, Oh braid, beef, oh break. And
that's like a restaurant, you know in the South. That's
like a cracker barrel type of place or whatever. So
I mean, yeah, I don't. I have no faith in

(10:22):
anybody's ability to do anything or to rain anything in
at this point when it comes to college football. And
I made the point about the NCAA and the Springsteen
song this morning on the radio, and I'll make another
point regarding college football that the question was asked to
me of by Jonas Knox, who's a really good radio host,

(10:43):
was God, the off season in college football sucks like
it sucks. It's confusing, tires embarrassing, it's confusing, it's tiresome.
It makes you hate the sport. And I mean, I
know it's kind of a masterful thing that the NFL
has done and that the NBA has done, and that

(11:05):
even the the MLB with Otani in LA when he
signed and the parties that were thrown for all the
different signees every summer when LA's making big moves. I mean,
they've done a great job of keeping their names in
the media cycle without playing games. And it's not it's

(11:26):
not bad news or tiresome news or tedious news, toweringly
tedious stuff. And that's what we're seeing every off season
for like ever now in the NCAA, where the best
news is, hey, we got this verbal commit for twenty twenties.
Next ah, it's like okay, like you know, and it's

(11:47):
like how a freshman? How are freshman's But I mean,
you're usually if you had a really good freshman class
back in the day, let's say it you dub or wherever.
I mean, if you're really good, maybe six of those
guys can tribute right.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Exactly, and most of them on special teams, by the way.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
And then half of those guys, you know, really play
and and and that's the selling point for USC football
going forward, is a verbal class that may or may
not arrive right in twenty twenty six, yep, you know.
And then all the other news is, you know, this
this teams suing this team. The SEC says we don't

(12:25):
need the nc double A. This committee, that committee, I mean,
and then all the nil stuff and the transfer portal,
which makes everybody sick because you can't get used to
anything or any team. I'm all for player empowerment, but
something's got to change. And I just don't know because

(12:45):
who's in charge? Nobody really the NC double A, Fox
and S No.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
They got a committee now run by this X major
league executive, this Brian Seelye.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
Guy. Great, they're in charge. They're gonna keep an eye
on you.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
What I'm saying, Yeah, but who's really in charge?

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Nobody?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yes, Fox, ESPN and the NC double A.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
The inmates run the asylum, right.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
And Fox and ESPN hate each other and they're fighting
each other, and nobody takes the NC DOUBLEA seriously. It's
literally like a dysfunctional family. And believe me, I know
all about it, where the kids don't get along and
the parent is powerless and toothless, in this case, the
NC Double A. So I just don't know where we're

(13:30):
gonna go from here. I don't know who. I mean.
The good news is when the season starts, they put
together football teams and they play and it's fun, right right.
It's not like it used to be, but it's always changing,
and that's the good news. The bad news is our
off season sucks and it makes everybody hate the sport.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Yeah yeah, well it's just.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
You can't even buy the Lindy's and feel good about
what you open it up and look at, because everybody's
transferred by the time you see it.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Well and totally.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I mean that magazine was outdated to years ago because
it had come out in the middle of freaking April.
For God's sake, I love everybody gets banged up and
it's stupid. Now, you're right, the rosters like this looks
like a roster from five years ago. Now that magazine
came out thirty days ago. It's just tiresome. Like it
should not take work to be a sports fan, right

(14:17):
of any sport, you know, and it takes work right now.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Well, I mean, somebody's got it, you know. They need
to have a real a reel. They need to be
more like a pro league, and that is going to
that is going to be the most painful of transitions,
and maybe the sport won't survive the transition. There is
such a demand for it. It's a billion plus dollar sport,

(14:43):
but it's it's hard to imagine who will be able
to take charge of it, since the TV companies, on
their influence, are really what's behind all the change, and
they're not going to be able to work together in
any kind of meaningful way. And then nobody pays attention
to the end double A you know, I mean the
n C double A is like a crazy guy screaming

(15:04):
on a corner at this point.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Well you know what, man, we're all rooting for the
Indiana Pacers in the NBA Finals tonight against because.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
We hate Okay. Did you know that, by the way
about us?

Speaker 5 (15:18):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, but I told this to Dick, and Dick was like,
don't say it so softy, They're gonna get mad.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Go ahead? It was like, you know, say what you
want about Oklaho, I mean the owner whatever that took
the Sonics, that guy socks And.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, you mean Howard.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
I don't know Howard.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
He's the guy that bread master.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Like in my life, I didn't care who the owner was,
you know, of anything other than bus who had hookers everywhere.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
But uh, I remember once saying, hey, let's go to
to uh to the Starbucks. I'm tired, I need to
pick me up. And you were like God tell you,
I'll never take this was like twelve years ago.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Your damn right true that which is brewed.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
But I will say that it's not good. But anyway,
I did. I did say this to Dick, Say what
you will? You know? Uh? And I've never been to
an ok C game, but you can see from watching
it's a great atmosphere for sports.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Don't you say that to me? Don't you bring that
up to me?

Speaker 2 (16:18):
All right, well, don't you say that? And I mean,
Dick was right. I've been all over America in almost
everybody's football stadium, and one of the most impressive blue
bloods as far as how they how they present their program,
how they celebrate their program, the game day experience, the
whole deal. And I've been a couple of times, so
I knew it wasn't a fluke was Oklahoma. It's unbelievable.

(16:43):
They do an unbelievable job. They make you feel like
a champion when you visit Oklahoma. And Oklahoma State does
a great job too. And that's got a great atmosphere
as well in Stillwater. So it is a great sports atmosphere,
There's no doubt about it. I was robbed of their
NBA team. They but blah blah. I was there. Oklahoma
is a great sports place.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
I was in Norman, Oklahoma one time, and Adrian Peterson
ran all over us with with Oklahoma. I'm looking it
up right now. Went for a Bucks sixty five and
a couple of touchdowns. Bob Stoops kicked our ass out there,
and I just as I remember thinking, God, that's a
lot of pornography behind the counter at that gas station

(17:26):
in Greece.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
No, and in Norman.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
I didn't you know.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
What it's funny about that. I didn't see any of
that when I was out there. None.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
There was one sex shop in Athens, just one outside
of the wooden peeps you have for sale with the
bottle openers. I didn't see a lot of pornography or
any of that unsavory thing.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I got your head on a swivel for for smut.
I mean, you really are a horn doone? This is
a European point.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Well, I was a little bit surprised for as horny
as you people they're supposed to be. I didn't see
any of that out there at all.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Women, look like, what are we supposed to do?

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Not wellther or not well?

Speaker 6 (18:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (18:10):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah, I remember I did tell Gina got most of
these gals look like Petro's.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
I'm sorry that was a shot.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
I mean it's it's it's funny because it's a low blow.
All like Shakest and Grease have big noses and butthhole eyes.
Is that Petro will No, that's the raitress from the bar.
We were just for a Greek. I am not a
hairy man at all. Really, I don't have a lot
of hair on my body. I don't have any chest hair.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
How did that happen?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Out of my mom's from Germany? So you know, at
least I have that.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Going got you. Well, good for you. It's good to
have something going on your side. All right, Hey, we'll
talk of a week. I've missed you. Great to catch
up again, man, Yeah, hey shut up, Petro, papaaks, We're
gotta break. Marenis suck again. Dan Wilson speaks again. Yay,
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Speaker 2 (19:17):
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Speaker 4 (19:27):
That's his third this year.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
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Speaker 4 (19:31):
It's Gino when it's four to two?

Speaker 2 (19:34):
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Speaker 3 (19:34):
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TV Network au Haanio Suarez a grand slam off, Brian
Wo today the mar no not today, and I just
Wo they lose today five to two. Mariners get swept
by Arizona. They went one for eleven with runners in
scoring position today, one for twelve yesterday, three for eighteen

(19:56):
on Monday. That, my friends, is five for forty one
combined in the series against Arizona. So, uh, we'll talk
about what we saw today, what we saw the last
three games. What the hell's going on there and Mariner
Land besides them sucking again. Dan Wilson, Mariner skipper, had
this to say after today's game.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Yeah, a rough way to lose it today, you know,
rough stretch for sure. This has been a tough one.
Time to regroup, you know, take a day tomorrow and
be ready to come back Friday. Back at Home's the team,
as we've said before, has been resilient. They do what
they have to do to bounce back, and and uh,
you know that's what we're gonna have to do starting
on Friday.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Dan. What needs to change?

Speaker 8 (20:35):
What needs to be better?

Speaker 4 (20:37):
I mean, you know.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
These guys, the attitude has been there, the energy has
been there, everything's been there.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
You know, accept the results.

Speaker 7 (20:46):
And and uh you know we've.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
We've got to change the results, and and uh we
will get there. Uh well, you know, like I said,
we'll regroup and uh, you know, be ready to start
out on Friday.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
What you're seeing with the runners and scoring position, you're
getting the on but particularly the last few games, it's
gonna challenge.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
I mean, you know, there have been some situations where
we hit the ball hard as well, you know, again
not getting the result that we wanted, but put a
good process and and uh, you know, just not being
able to get them in, you know. And uh, it's
been I think a stretch where it seems like, you know,
baseball has has kind of bitten us a little bit,

(21:24):
and and uh we just haven't been able to get
that those situations and take advantage of them, whereas we
were able to do that earlier in the year. But
you know it's, uh, that's what makes us this game
so great in a lot of ways, is that, uh,
you know we can bounce back from it. We will
and and uh you know again it's just gonna it's

(21:47):
gonna take some some flushing this down and and uh,
you know, coming back on Friday, ready to go.

Speaker 8 (21:52):
And you talk about the resilience of these guys, what's
your what is your message at this point to then,
because resiliency only means so much if you're actually gaining
results out of it.

Speaker 6 (22:01):
Yeah, I mean they've they've they've done it so many times.
They know what they're doing, they know how to do it.
And uh, I don't think it's a question of that. Again,
Like I said, the energy has been there. You know,
the effort's been there. We've just come up short. And
uh but uh you know we we know what we
have to do and it's it's it will get done.

Speaker 8 (22:22):
Brian was really good through the fifth today. What what
was good up to that point?

Speaker 2 (22:27):
What changed in the sixth?

Speaker 6 (22:29):
I mean, uh, he was you know, he was vintage Brian,
attacking zone, using his fastballs, using his secondaries. You know,
I thought he threw the ball really well, it's a
shame it comes down to one pitch today.

Speaker 7 (22:41):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (22:41):
You know, he deserved a better take, clearly a tough one,
you know, and you know we had our opportunities offensively
to kind of get him a little more cushion, and
we just weren't able to do it.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Well, I will say this that we got absolutely squeezed
on the previous at bat. I think it was to
Naylor ball four, shure to strike three, to be totally
honest with you, and then he fell behind de Suarez.
He should have been in front oh one. Instead he
is behind one to zero. I believe was a was
a one to zero camp for the Grand Slam, if
I'm not mistaken. But he was getting no help from

(23:14):
the umpire there. And I just wonder, first of all,
who was in the background taking some cuts in the
cage down there getting their swing going on. Somebody was
taking some VP during Dan Wilson's little postgame press are there.
I wouldn't it be funny if a manager just stop
with the cliches, or any coach for that matter, and
just said, you know what, guys, there's a chance that
we may just stink. I mean, this may never get
turned around. We may just suck.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
We are who they they are who we thought they like, guys.
I mean it's possible.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
I mean, look, you go out over the offseason, you
do nothing to improve your baseball team significantly offensively.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
And the one what was the.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Biggest thing that we were relying on over the off
season to make this baseball team better in twenty twenty five?
All of us said it at one point in time
over the offseason. You said it, I said it, Jackson
said it. What was the offensive approach? The division sucks? Well, yes,
remember that, yes, yea and so and what we say
on the air. If we're literally sitting here relying on

(24:09):
other people to stink to help us out, we're going
to be in trouble, right, We're going to be in trouble.
And look, I mean the division is not great. There's
no question about that. The division can still be had.
But with the injuries they've had to their pitching staff,
with the way the bullpen's performing, Dick mentioned that earlier,
the offense has now gone into a total funk. I mean,
you've seen what needs to happen with the pitching staff

(24:32):
banged up for this baseball team to win the offense
has to play over their heads.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
There's only four teams with worse run differentials than the
Mariners in the America. That's crazy. And they're the negative
what now fifteen negative fourteen? Now only four teams worse.
And you know, when you look at their stats with
runners on, nothing really jumps out of you. I was
just looking at ops on base percentage, batting average. They're
all kind of middle of the pack, even slightly above

(24:58):
middle of the pack and all those things. But it
just it absolutely burns me when I see runners on
at second base and nobody out and not even an
attempt to hit the ball to the right side.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Well, that's your president to baseball operations, Dick, because he's
the only consistent theme. Yes, Scott Service, Dan Wilson, whoever.
And it doesn't matter who the manager is, doesn't matter
who's at the plate, doesn't matter who's on second base.
They just don't do it. It's not the way Jerry
has built this baseball team. Because you mentioned a Mitch
Carver leadoff double in the seventh inning, you're down five

(25:32):
to two, the game is not over and Dominic Solano,
instead of bunting them over grounds out to the one
spot you can't ground out too with a guy on second,
and that's third base.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
Okay, the only place you can't grab me short stop
in third base. And just and it doesn't have to
always be about exit velocity. The power of these guys swings.
I have seen a Rose Raina with runners on base.
He is loaded in less than two outs. Yeah, and
he is trying to swing for the nine run home run.
Sure in close ballgames where you don't need four runs,

(26:03):
you need one.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Well, look, I mean, don't we find it kind of
slightly ironical and even a little bit hilarious that au
Haaneo Suarez was the one that dug their grave today
with a grand Slam, because if they would have kept
Suarez a year ago, they probably make the playoffs, right,
but they dump them to save money. This guy had
thirty bombs and one hundred and one RBIs on his own.

(26:24):
I've been told RBIs don't matter, So take that for
with the grain of salt that people think it is.
You don't know why we worry about runners with scoring
in scoring position. If RBIs don't that's right, what do
we give it?

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Damn right?

Speaker 3 (26:35):
It's fine to go five for forty one because RBIs
don't matter. Last year he had thirty and one hundred
and one with a seven eighty eight ops. Mariner third
baseman had twelve home runs, forty four RBIs and a
six forty two ops by themselves. Eu Haaneo Suarez doubled
and tripled the production from guys like Luis Urius. So

(26:57):
when people get pissed off that the Mariners are dumping salary,
this is why. Because they're dumping good players for crap.
Then they go out and they say, well, all right, dea,
so sign Luis Urius. Our idea is to bring back
Corey Polanco and make him play a position he's never
played in his life.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
I mean, honestly, are these guys stupid or what?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
No, they're on a budget.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
Huh, they're on a budget.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Then why don't you just bring up Ben Williamson from
the opener and give him a chance. Instead, let's bring
it a guy who's got no arm and has never
played third base and waste the first.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Month, beg you feel like he was ready. There's an answer.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
The best the best chance we have, and it's still
a reasonable chance, is that Kirby becomes Kirby he looked
like Kirby last start. Gilbert becomes Gilbert, and it'll probably
take Logan a couple of see. I mean, he's not
gonna come in and go seven and a third one
run the first two times he pitches. It's gonna take
Logan a couple more weeks to get back to Logan.

(27:53):
But if Kirby's Kirby, Logan's Logan, Woo'swoo, Castillo's Castillo.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
That's a lot of ifs right there. Second, we're not
asking for me.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
No, no, we're not asking them to be anything other
than what they are right what they were. But well,
you don't think they you don't think Kirby is So
was that a mirage what Kirby did the last three years?
I'm just throwing out the hypothetical all that we are
now seeing the reality of the Seattle Mariners pitching staff.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
I think there's a chance, there is a chance, if
all of them are healthy, that one of them doesn't
perform the way they did a year ago, exactly, And
if one of the year, if one of them doesn't
perform the way they did a year ago or two
years ago, and then they are in the playoff race
and it's a game or two difference that there you go.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
You're compute at that point.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
I mean, look, I mean obviously there's a reason why
the pitching staff, the starting pitching staff has not been phenomenal,
because it literally took guys getting hurt to screw the rotation. Okay,
Logan Gilbert's barely pitched, Kirby's barely pitched, and Bryce Miller
has been hurt for god knows how long and now
he was out for a month. And I looked it
up during a break, and I don't know if this

(29:01):
is contributing to the bullpen performances or not. Bullpen's seventeenth
in the era E RA is kind of a dumb
way to do the bullpen thing, because one or two
bad games can really blow that number up to Kingdom.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Come.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
They were ninth a year ago, now they're seventeenth. However,
I didn't realize this. They were number one in bullpen
innings pitched a year ago, meaning the fewest innings under
five hundred. Now they're on pace to throw over six
hundred innings. I don't know if this bullpen was built
to do what the Mariners are asking them to do.

(29:30):
No right now, because it's not deep enough.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
I mean, every time Dan pulls a pitcher out in
the fifth inning, I'm like, how are you gonna get
the ten eleven outs to get to munios?

Speaker 3 (29:39):
But they were supposed to have the fewest innings, not
the ninth most or tenth most, And that's what they're
trending to do, maybe because of their rotation getting banged up.
I mean, we thought they were treating these guys with
kid gloves last year. What about now with Evans and
Hancock and Luis f yourself, Castill, wasn't it a break

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