June 17, 2025 • 27 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain talk to Hugh Millen about the Julio Rodriguez debate, clutch plays, and Seahawks deficiencies right now, then ask each other how much money they would go to prison, like Shohei Ohtani’s interpreter is, for.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, joining us right now on the radio program
A Little More at four, or their friend Huey Millan,
who is with us every Monday right here from the
Emeral Queen Casino.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
How are you, man?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
What's happening, guys? I'm doing great, not much. You want
to weigh in on all this Julio chatter going on?
You're either in Julio's camper or not. There's no gray area, pal,
You got to pick one. Are you with them or
against him? It's times in side, big boy. Yeah, I
think it's it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I'll weigh in as a as a Sea Atlite and
Mariner fan from inceptions, and I think it's first important
to just define where the lines of dispute are. In
my opinion, there's a few facts that should be just
confirmed by all parties. Fact number one, he's immensely talented. Right,
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He's a five tool guy. Right, nobody should have a
difference of opinion on his talent.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Right.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Number two is performance early as a twenty one year old.
Now this is fourth year going in the major leagues.
Hiss his best batting average, best ops and best war.
Now war has yet to be determined, and I understand
he's only you know, seventy games into his fourth year here,
but as of now, his best year in all those
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stats was when he was twenty one. Fact number three,
he's not Ken Griffy Junior. And when you can not
yet if you just take the ages, if you take
the war of of of Julio. Now, even if you
project for this year five eighty five, Griffy had a
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seven to fifteen offensive war.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Julio is at five.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Point two through four years, Ken Griffy through the same
these are the same ages. Now this is going Griffy
age twenty one, twenty two, twenty three and twenty four
Griffy six point seven offensive runs against an average where
Julio's fifty one year Griffy sixty eight. So, and then
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if you want to go more traditional, you go batting
average Griffy three twenty seven of A's twenty one versus
two eighty four, the next year three eight vers two
seventy five, then three h nine verse two seventy three,
and then the year where now aged twenty four, Griffy
was three twenty three, whereas Julio's at two sixty one.
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Griffy's ops at age twenty four one thousand and seventy
six compared to Julio seven forty two. So he is
just quite simply not Ken Griffy Junior. Now, in my opinion,
Ken Griffy is the greatest Seattle professional athlete of all
time because he's the only one. There's just one man's opinion.
And I had Spencer Haywood's poster on my wall. He's
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the only guy Griffy that at any one time you
could say he's the greatest player in the sport. And
you could say that in the mid nineties about Ken Griffy.
So I think I think if you if you posit
those facts, then where the dispute. He's unquestionably above average
and he's in my opinion, he's unquestionably not great. Do
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you want to say he's a disappointment. I'm in the
camp that since the the contract he.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Has been a disappointment.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Now that of course is relative to what what was
your expectations when when he signed it? Right, And it's
very difficult to not to have been influenced by Ken
Griffy's career. Again, Griffy's Griffy. And I'll just say, Dave,
you know, we we talked off of the air. I'll
close with this, dick, you know, to me, I'd say,
if Ken Griffy is the Michael Jordan, not not of baseball,
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but the Michael Jordan of Seattle Sports, like the greatest
of all time. Well, Kobe had all the same attributes
of Michael Jordan, he was just about ninety percent. So
to me, I'm I'm I'm thinking, Hey, I don't expect
Julio to be to be the Michael Jordan of Seattle Sports.
Who's who's Ken Griffy. But even if he's like ninety
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percent like Kobe, like, I'll be really happy with a
poor man's Griffy if he's ninety percent of Griffy. So
that's kind of where I stand. Yes, I think he's
a disappointment. Yes, I think he's immensely talented. He's young,
we'll see, but he is most certainly not Griffy. And then, oh,
I gotta get to Dave. I gotta get to two
clutch numbers age twenty three Ken Griffy light and close
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batted three seventeen, where Julio's two fifty Ken Griffy's ops
in Leyton close twelve seventy six versus Julio six eighty eight,
like Griffy almost doubled him age twenty four this season.
This season at age twenty four, Griffy with in extra
innings batted five seventy four in extra innings this year
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in extra Indians Julio, he's got a zero point zero.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Zero zero.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
He's zero for six. Okay, so we can just go
and there's a lot of other clutch numbers. So I
think that was another part of Griffy. He seemed to
rise to the moment, I'll say, much more frequently than
we see from Julio.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Well, speaking of clutch, that was another one of our
conversation since today. After the JJ spot spawn putt yesterday,
we were talking about you know, what would your dream
clutch scenario be? Either as an athlete, Hugh, you know
you can put yourself in that situation, you can put
the helmet back on, the pads back on, and give
me your dream player clutch scenario, or as just a
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Seattle sports fan, like, what would be if you could
choose any dream clutch scenario for a Seattle sports team
to happen, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, I'm gonna tip towards football for obvious reasons. First
of all, I gotta interrupt myself. The spawn putt yesterday,
I don't know, I'm gonna sure, you guys mention it.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
He only had the two putt, there's a huge difference.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
But if he had drained that putt and he needed
to win it, like if it was two put to
tie and push over time and there was one put
to win it, that would be arguably the greatest shot
in the history of golf.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Right, So yeah, I think.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
But AND's victor problem about one hundred thousand dollars for putting,
his putting, his approach.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Undoubtedly that was that was beautiful. He got to see that.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
But but I think I think that a lot of
the luster off that putt is reduced by the fact
that he only had to two butt. Now three putting
was obviously well in play. We saw many many three
putts right past or left. I mean, I'm quite certain
that I would have at least three putted been in.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
The same situation.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
But but drink green citcenario situation, I would say, you know,
I think the two clutches throws I've ever seen U
was was Eli Manning to Mario manningham Uh. The whole
shot down the sideline against the Patriots, and then Ben
Roethlisberger in the corner of the end zone against the
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Cardinals where he had that hit.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
You know, you think I know that, right?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Like, how do I know that?
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Can?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You guys?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Can one of you?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Three?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Dictatus was a Santonio home Yes, okay, he if he
threw that Bill Wall style twelve inches in front of
the numbers, it would have been intercepted. Roethlisberger had to
extend his uh, the receiver's hands.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Who's it again, Santonio? He had to extend his hands
up to a point hit.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
The target he was trying to hit was the size
of a salad plate, and it was not twelve inches
in front of the numbers. It was way extended. So
the spot that Roethlisberger was able to put that ball
to win a Super Bowl, well, you know, for this
former hack quarterback, that would be the uh, that would
be the culmination. And certainly, as a fan, if we
see Sam Darnold throw a pass like.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
That, we're gonna be already and like we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Be Yeah, I think you'll just be getting rid of
all your pants because you'll never be wearing them again.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, Oh yeah, the old reference will be Prince nineteen
ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
From how would that postgame show be here?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That'd be pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Oh god, Mini camp is over for the Sea all uh,
we'll see these guys on the field and the third
week of July. And there's look, obviously between now in
training camp. You don't often see a lot of moves made.
Moves get made in training camp when guys get hurt,
When rosters come out and players get cut, there's always
that flurry before the first game of the year or
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the first Monday of the year.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
But where are the Seahawks deficient right now? Roster wise?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Like if John Schneider came to you and said, hey, man,
where do we need help? What would you say to
him about where they're deficient? And where I want you
John to spend the next month and a half preparing
to make this position better.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Right guard ex receiver and pass rusher edge got it yea?
And and you know right guard there's a ah, there's
a battle. I don't know if it's a pillow fight
or if it's a legit battle, but that's an area
of big concern.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Let's go back to that for a second. Between le
Maya and Christian Haynes. You think that's one A and
one guard, so maybe three players, right? But are you
Are you surprised, Dick too, that the Seahawks didn't do
more to help out that position over the offseason. I
mean you they basically did nothing that right guard. They said, lameya, Bradford,
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Christian Raynes. Same three guys we had a year ago,
same three guys we have now.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean obviously the expanded draft picks
U you know, Gray's abel obviously left guard, and of
their quick All right, I'm gonna give you both a
trivia question, but you have to answer in under one second.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I was told there'd be no test today. No, there's
a test. There's a test. Somebody told you wrong. Okay,
you got that. You got to answer that. Both of
you just blurted out. And it's got to be under
one second. Out of eleven draft picks, how many were
on the offensive side of the ball?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Go four, three, two? Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But but so so the point is is here here
you look at got a defensive head coach. There had
to be a voice in that room to going, oh God,
give me some more guys. But I think, you know,
the the sentiment, whether it was way the board just
played out during the draft, and and that's the guys
who fell to him or what have you. But nine
of a nine of eleven, yeah, uh were on the offense,
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so and and and several offensive linemens. So you're kind
of throwing stuff against the wall hoping it sticks.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
You know. The X receiver issue is is.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Is real to me because the comparative advantage of uh,
not only Cooper Cup but j s N from a
year ago. The comparative advantage was clearly and undisputedly in
the slot. Now, I think the js N can play outside.
But the numbers, you know, in terms of frequency, just
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weren't there. And uh and and so X receiver is
a big factor to me. And then and then the
other part of it, Leonard Williams, you know three sacks,
uh are excuse not not Leonards Williams. Sorry, DeMarcus Lawrence D.
Law He had three sacks last year. I watched the
a lot of tape. The three sacks. They just fell
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into him. He didn't beat anybody fast off the ball.
Two of them were up the middle where he was
just hanging around the lion of scrimmage and the quarterback
fell into him. And one of them where he was
way up the field on an outside rush on his
left side, and the quarterback dropped. You know, it was
like fifteen yards behind the line of scrimmage and he
fell into that one. So I think d Law. I'm
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good friends with Jason Garrett. Jason Garrett is one of
the best dudes I know, and we've had conversations. Garrett
loves him the person. Still still think he's got a
lot of juice left in him. So I'd like to
defer to adjacent but Jason, but that lack of aircraft carrier,
you know, to use baseball term middle of the lineup,
a home run hitter. You know, you'd just like to
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see a guy with some elite juice off the edge,
and I don't see it on the roster.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Well, nick Emman Warry lined up at outside linebacker in
Minnie Camp inside linebacker nickel box. So is this a
guy that can be kind of what we hoped Jamal
Adams was going to be and that's like a jack
of all trades, use him everywhere type player, or do
you think he's just gonna settle in more to the
Cam Chancellor role.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Well, I think it's a fair question about Jamal Adams.
But but I'm gonna break out in hives and have
a like an itchy belly because.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I just that he could be and he never won.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
No, so let's let's let's uh uh, let's go with
Kyle Hamilton, right the the All Pro, first team All
Pro safety from the ravens uh from the scheme standpoint,
I would love to probe Mike McDonald about just what
attributes about Hamilton does he see in nick Ammon Warry.
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But based on my tape assessment of Imon Worri at
South Carolina and then I went back and watched tape
of Hamilton at Notre Dame, both of them first rounders,
I think, Uh, Emon war he's a better athlete. He
just flat as a better athlete. You got Hamilton's a
little longer, uh. And I think Hamilton probably has more
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just native instincts, just innate instincts about where the ball
is going to go. So so you got a better
athlete than Ama and Worry. I think McDonald, I'm just
gonna conjecture on my part, I think that McDonald thinks
that he can instill not necessarily instincts, because those could
be innate, but he can instill the react the short,
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short processing time that we see in Kyle Hamilton. He can,
by virtue of teaching, can get Eman worried to have
that kind of a heady game. And I think that
McDonald is just is in love with that, you know,
the physical uh, that the tool set that he gets
em and worry. I'm I'm fascinated to see how to
use it.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well, they had how many draft picks total? And this
last two years draft?
Speaker 6 (13:44):
You?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I got eleven eleven?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So seven of the so eight of the eleven or
seven nine of the eleven were on the defensive side
of the ball.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
You no, offensive side of the ball?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Are the the wait a minute, how many? How many?
How many draft picks are on offense?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Nine eleven?
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I thought you said two were on off You said
two were on us?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Said defense?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Offense? No, you said offense, And I said the question
said that wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, that's wrong because they you're saying that they drafted
way more guys on offense than defense.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Correct, Okay, good, gotcha.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Well, if I kicked then that's that's fine.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But which, by the way, it makes it even more
amazing if they spent nine of their eleven draft picks
on offense that they did not even address the right
guard situation.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Right whatsoever they spent, they would.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Say, yeah, yeah, I mean Bryce cable Doo, the guard
from Kansas. He was a sixth round pick, as rich
Men's not yea, that's seventh rounder.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
No, you're right, You're you're right.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
But hey, Hugh, listen before you go, I have a
non football, non baseball question for you. Okay, you know
the other name Ipe Misahara. You know who that is
that they ring about with you at all? No, he
is Shohe Otani's former in purpose who today is starting
a fifty seven month prison set. Well, you're gonna ask
for stealing seventeen million dollars from show, hey Otana.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Now, I will tell you this.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I don't think it's accurate, but there are some people
that believe that I be Missahara has taking the fall
for Otani and that it was Otani, not Missahara, who
was placing all these bets with this offshore bookie. Okay,
I don't believe that, but there's people that have said that.
My question to you is this, if I came to
you and said, Hugh, I'm in dire straits. I need
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you to take the fall for me. And part of
the fall for me is going to prison for almost
five years. How much money would I have to give
you to do fifty seven months for me?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Is there a number?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
And I'm gonna be a convicted felon?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I guess is there a number? Is there?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Is there any number? No, there's some things. There's some
things my kids would not be for sale. And what
you just said is not for it?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Is it different for.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
You because you're sixty years old versus the twenty five
year old humillin possible?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yeah, but look, look I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I mean, I'm in a no win situation answering this
question because it's it's a it's a hypothetical that doesn't exist.
And so if I if I say, hey, listen, my
integrity matters, and and not having my kids know me
as a convicted felon, but be able.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
To tell you that platitude, tell.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Your kids that you're taking the fall from me, they
would not think of you as a felon.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I thought what you're gonna say is, hey, look I'm
rich already. I don't need the money.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Anybody listen, there's nobody that couldn't use an extra fifty
seven billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I'm gonna give you a billion dollars to do four
and a half years in jail. You wouldn't do it
for a billion?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Would you sell Gina for a billion to a uh
sell her? I don't know Asian sex.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
That's not what.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
We're doing here. We're doing four and a half years.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I'm not selling my wife to Robert redfist got twisted
at a hurt.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Look, I'm taking you to an absurd spot to get
you to say, there are some things that yes, would
not do.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I would not do the money in the wrect that
I would not do.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
But you don't have kids, so I didn't say, Dick Vane,
would you sell either of your kids? Of course to
a child trafficking mark?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Of course, he one. But that's not a question.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Ask me if I would do fifty seven months for
a billion, I would say yes, I would do that.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yes, I would do that.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
What yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:29):
You know?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And you you and you'd go as a convicted fell
in the rest of don't care.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I got a billion dollars, what do I give it?
Damn call me whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Half years you might die in there.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Maybe could Maybe I'll meet somebody. You you're the man.
We'll talk to everybody. You come on four nine, four
or five one? What would people need? First of all,
would you even consider it? Would you even can?
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Now?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Again, I think when you have kids in your older
different story? Right, But let's say, let's just say, I
don't know does Ipe have a family?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Do we know? Are the little Misahara is running around?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So is there any scenario kids, no kids, whatever where
you would at least want to consider the proposition.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
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Speaker 2 (18:33):
All right, so the topic is your that's the topic
of the day. That sounds good. I'll have that one.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Ipei Misahara, the disgrace, former interpreter for Angel or Dodger
Superstar show Hey Otane, reported to federal prison today. Ordered
to surrender to federal authorities by Monday. He is in
custody at the Federal Corrections Institution Allan Wood Low, a
low security facility. So we're talking like Wolf of Wall
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Street playing tennis, maybe not El Chappo after being sentenced
to fifty seven months in prison for stealing nearly seventeen
million dollars from Cheo Toati. So you know how this worked.
I mean, when this initial report came on, Oh my
God show, he's betting on baseball. He's gonna get kicked
out of the game. It's gonna be the biggest scandal
in the history of Major League Baseball because when the
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Pete Roads thing happened, Pete Rose was done, this would
be the face of the game, right getting thrown out
of Major League Baseball. So there are some conspiracy theorists
out there who believe that Misahara is taking a fall
for Shoeo Toati and going to jail for four and
a half years on his behalf.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
So let's just live in a world where that's actually accurate.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Jackson Dick, if I called you up and said, guys,
I need you, I need you for four and a
half years, it's gonna be a cush gig.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
You're gonna have your own cell.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You can go out and get donuts, come back whenever
you want, Just be back by nine o'clock like good fellas.
You can ship in your own wine, seafood, onions, garlic, sausage, cigars, whiskey.
You're gonna live like a king for four and a
half years, but you're gonna be in prison and to
be known as a convicted felon. How much money would
you have to get from me to make that worth
your softy?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Can I pay you to get this?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Sounds great?
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (20:21):
It sure sounds like conjugal visits are very much on
the table in this scenari.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Busy you whenever she wants.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Yeah, so all of this sounds what is the downside
to this? Well, you're in jail, yeah, but you're it
sounds pretty cushy. You can't leave the state, you can't
leave the city. You got to report back by a
certain time every day.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
But you can leave the jail. You can leave the jail.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Well, oh you just kind of ankle, I am I No, No,
you've got to go back to prison by nine o'clock
every night.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
I do I have a TV with streaming capabilities?
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
No, you get the Cheese Channel and a government champil
I am painting. Obviously a ridiculous scenario. Is this the
Wolf of Wall Street again? Like I realized I was
everything and he's playing tennis? Remember that at the end
of the movie. You guys have seen Wolf of Wall Street? Right,
gu I got friends that have not seen it, which
is ridiculous. But let's just throw out that insane scenario.
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He's going to prison. He's going to a low security
federal correctional institution. So whatever comes along with that is
what you'll have to do. Is there any amount of
money I could give you to make that worth your while?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
I would have a couple of stipulations. First stipulation was,
it can't be right now. I will not miss my
two kids high school careers.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Okay, no amount of not being billion dollars billion, it
doesn't matter, faint family change. I definitely would never kids
will never have to work a day in their lives.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I wanted you to be.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Back by nine pm. Aren't events over by ninety?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
No, softie, I'm talking that whatever whatever comes along with
a typical no Im Jackson. On the other scenario, that's
totally different, if you know. But yeah, I mean, I
will never ever ever get my.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Kids high school careers back.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
And this is like, the next five years are both
my kids high school career?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
What if your kids go to college and the college.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Now if my kids are my kids are in their
twenties and they're off doing their own things. I don't
have grandkids yet. You know, there's there's a five there's
a five year window that I might be able to
consider it.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
The other thing would have to be it would have
to be like the blip Infinity War, right I where
I just poof leave and poof come back. I know
I'm gone for five years, but nobody.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Else that's not reality. Five you're you're out. That's not reality.
So I'm out. That's not real. So then I'm out.
Talking about two stipulations.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I'm at four and a half year federal correctional prison set.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I'm out.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Does not involve the world thinking that you were gone
for thirty sevens.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
I don't want my kids not to work for the
rest of their life.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Okay, all right, Jackson, how about.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
You we're talking four years.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
You said four and a half years. Yep, fifty seven
months in Jakay.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
I know, I know, you wiped the dream scenario off
the table. Are conjugal visits still on the table?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yes, yes they are.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
Okay, all you're thinking about is sex, well, because all
I'm thinking about is like this is the time for me,
like where I'm trying to form a family.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I got that.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
If that's off the table.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Then I help you feel hard my got Okay.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
So if that's then I'm out entirely.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
But if that you're still still have conjugal visits. Yeah,
it's still allowed.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I mean, if that's if that's still on it.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
But those conjugal visits worked, you're gonna miss the first
three and a half years of your kid's life.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
He could hang out with his kid forever, because it
never works.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
And that's the thing though, is that what amount of
money will make up for those first couple of years.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Fifty million, one hundred million?
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Now my first number was one hundred, but I'm probably
north of that. I'm probably looking at more like five
hundred million.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Half a billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, and you or your kids or your wife and
anybody you know that's close to you, or let's just
let's make this work again.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Let's always be taken care of.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
Let's make the one hundred million forevery year I have
to do it. That's with them, with I will not
take over four years. I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Let's just call it an even four fifty, four hundred
and fifty million dollars. Yeah, is your is your price dead?
Speaker 4 (23:56):
That's my price tag right now?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
It's my money? Okay, Yeah, all right?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I mean geez, I mean everyone's got their price, right,
I think there's even a price. I mean there's no
price for you whatsoever. No amount of money, Dick would
let you miss your kids high school careers.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
No, no, ten million, No, it doesn't matter. You're the
richest man in the history of the life.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Honestly, I've always felt this way.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
This is why probably I've worked in radio for last.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Week, because like like, would I rather enjoy my life
and be able to buy the things I need to
buy and have fun with my family, or would I
rather give something up that is that you can't even
put a price.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
With that much money, believably rich.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
With that much money, you could buy your own high school,
send your kids back and sign up about five hundred kids.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
To take take part with them in the high school experience.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I don't think they'd want to go to the all right,
So Dick says, no amount of money four nine, four
or five one? Is there any amount of money out
there everybody listening, where you would do four and a
half years to take the fall for a friend in
a federal prison. You're uh, you know, you're innocent. The
world thinks you're guilty. But this person that is sending
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you to jail can write you a check for whatever
number you asked for.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
That would be the other thing people go to people
with the rest of your life would think you're a
scumb by.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
Yeah, but hold hold one. But it's specifically what crime
we're talking about here. If I mean, if we're talking
about Epe and and like what he did, okay, like
he'll get out of prison, and you know, what's what's
the lasting you know, view.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
On him from the public.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I don't know, Like I.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
Don't think people think kill the guy like that, like
this this isn't this is what what a horrible human being?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Nobody's thinking that.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
No, I don't think so, I mean, don't isn't that
Andrew Wiener, who's the politician that had the thing, he's
running again for office or he's back on TV or
I mean, America loves redemption stories.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Man, right, we are very forgiving. We all know that.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I mean, can you imagine if in four and a
half years from now, some Japanese handy capping sports channel
gives Ipe Musahara his own show. I mean, Tim donaghy
is doing podcasts, right, He's all over the place.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Remember that if he referee.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
If he were to come out and the first thing
he does coming out of prison, the stories he's got,
he's got all the cameras on him, he just comes
out and breaks down in tears. I'm so sorry, Please
forgive me. I've he'll be He'll be fine. I don't
think he even needs to do that.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I think he's a big enough name where there's gonna
be some people out there that will want to hear what.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
He has to say.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
His his his his stories and the kind of people
that he's been exposed to when the underbelly of the
sports betting business.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
There's a book, dude, Yeah, there's a And how much
money do you make on the back end from that
book deal?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Maybe more than I mean, maybe enough to justify going
to jail four and a half years exactly. That's all
I'm saying it's all maybe part of the playing dude,
all right, four thirty nine, four nine, four five one
text the mornings, and then John Wilner is gonna join
at five. He normally joins on Tuesday, but we're off
for early tomorrow. For hockey, Wazoo is eliminating track and field,
(27:05):
all field events, limiting sprints and hurdles. In the future,
I believe this is going to affect twenty four athletes
that no longer can compete in college. Is this the
tip of the iceberg for Olympic sports? We'll talk to
John about this at five on ninety three to three KJRFM.
All right, joining us right now on the radio program
A Little More at four, or their friend Huey Millan,
who is with us every Monday right here from the
Emeral Queen Casino.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
How are you, man?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
What's happening, guys? I'm doing great, not much. You want
to weigh in on all this Julio chatter going on?
You're either in Julio's camper or not. There's no gray area, pal,
You got to pick one. Are you with them or
against him? It's times in side, big boy. Yeah, I
think it's it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I'll weigh in as a as a Sea Atlite and
Mariner fan from inceptions, and I think it's first important
to just define where the lines of dispute are. In
my opinion, there's a few facts that should be just
confirmed by all parties. Fact number one, he's immensely talented. Right,
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He's a five tool guy. Right, nobody should have a
difference of opinion on his talent.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Right.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Number two is performance early as a twenty one year old.
Now this is fourth year going in the major leagues.
Hiss his best batting average, best ops and best war.
Now war has yet to be determined, and I understand
he's only you know, seventy games into his fourth year here,
but as of now, his best year in all those
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stats was when he was twenty one. Fact number three,
he's not Ken Griffy Junior. And when you can not
yet if you just take the ages, if you take
the war of of of Julio. Now, even if you
project for this year five eighty five, Griffy had a
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seven to fifteen offensive war.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Julio is at five.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Point two through four years, Ken Griffy through the same
these are the same ages. Now this is going Griffy
age twenty one, twenty two, twenty three and twenty four
Griffy six point seven offensive runs against an average where
Julio's fifty one year Griffy sixty eight. So, and then
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if you want to go more traditional, you go batting
average Griffy three twenty seven of A's twenty one versus
two eighty four, the next year three eight vers two
seventy five, then three h nine verse two seventy three,
and then the year where now aged twenty four, Griffy
was three twenty three, whereas Julio's at two sixty one.
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Griffy's ops at age twenty four one thousand and seventy
six compared to Julio seven forty two. So he is
just quite simply not Ken Griffy Junior. Now, in my opinion,
Ken Griffy is the greatest Seattle professional athlete of all
time because he's the only one. There's just one man's opinion.
And I had Spencer Haywood's poster on my wall. He's
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the only guy Griffy that at any one time you
could say he's the greatest player in the sport. And
you could say that in the mid nineties about Ken Griffy.
So I think I think if you if you posit
those facts, then where the dispute. He's unquestionably above average
and he's in my opinion, he's unquestionably not great. Do
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you want to say he's a disappointment. I'm in the
camp that since the the contract he.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Has been a disappointment.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Now that of course is relative to what what was
your expectations when when he signed it? Right, And it's
very difficult to not to have been influenced by Ken
Griffy's career. Again, Griffy's Griffy. And I'll just say, Dave,
you know, we we talked off of the air. I'll
close with this, dick, you know, to me, I'd say,
if Ken Griffy is the Michael Jordan, not not of baseball,
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but the Michael Jordan of Seattle Sports, like the greatest
of all time. Well, Kobe had all the same attributes
of Michael Jordan, he was just about ninety percent. So
to me, I'm I'm I'm thinking, Hey, I don't expect
Julio to be to be the Michael Jordan of Seattle Sports.
Who's who's Ken Griffy. But even if he's like ninety
(03:57):
percent like Kobe, like, I'll be really happy with a
poor man's Griffy if he's ninety percent of Griffy. So
that's kind of where I stand. Yes, I think he's
a disappointment. Yes, I think he's immensely talented. He's young,
we'll see, but he is most certainly not Griffy. And then, oh,
I gotta get to Dave. I gotta get to two
clutch numbers age twenty three Ken Griffy light and close
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batted three seventeen, where Julio's two fifty Ken Griffy's ops
in Leyton close twelve seventy six versus Julio six eighty eight,
like Griffy almost doubled him age twenty four this season.
This season at age twenty four, Griffy with in extra
innings batted five seventy four in extra innings this year
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in extra Indians Julio, he's got a zero point zero.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Zero zero.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
He's zero for six. Okay, so we can just go
and there's a lot of other clutch numbers. So I
think that was another part of Griffy. He seemed to
rise to the moment, I'll say, much more frequently than
we see from Julio.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Well, speaking of clutch, that was another one of our
conversation since today. After the JJ spot spawn putt yesterday,
we were talking about you know, what would your dream
clutch scenario be? Either as an athlete, Hugh, you know
you can put yourself in that situation, you can put
the helmet back on, the pads back on, and give
me your dream player clutch scenario, or as just a
(05:18):
Seattle sports fan, like, what would be if you could
choose any dream clutch scenario for a Seattle sports team
to happen, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, I'm gonna tip towards football for obvious reasons. First
of all, I gotta interrupt myself. The spawn putt yesterday,
I don't know, I'm gonna sure, you guys mention it.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
He only had the two putt, there's a huge difference.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
But if he had drained that putt and he needed
to win it, like if it was two put to
tie and push over time and there was one put
to win it, that would be arguably the greatest shot
in the history of golf.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Right, So yeah, I think.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
But AND's victor problem about one hundred thousand dollars for putting,
his putting, his approach.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Undoubtedly that was that was beautiful. He got to see that.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
But but I think I think that a lot of
the luster off that putt is reduced by the fact
that he only had to two butt. Now three putting
was obviously well in play. We saw many many three
putts right past or left. I mean, I'm quite certain
that I would have at least three putted been in.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
The same situation.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
But but drink green citcenario situation, I would say, you know,
I think the two clutches throws I've ever seen U
was was Eli Manning to Mario manningham Uh. The whole
shot down the sideline against the Patriots, and then Ben
Roethlisberger in the corner of the end zone against the
(06:48):
Cardinals where he had that hit.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
You know, you think I know that, right?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Like, how do I know that?
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Can?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You guys?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Can one of you?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Three?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Dictatus was a Santonio home Yes, okay, he if he
threw that Bill Wall style twelve inches in front of
the numbers, it would have been intercepted. Roethlisberger had to
extend his uh, the receiver's hands.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Who's it again, Santonio? He had to extend his hands
up to a point hit.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
The target he was trying to hit was the size
of a salad plate, and it was not twelve inches
in front of the numbers. It was way extended. So
the spot that Roethlisberger was able to put that ball
to win a Super Bowl, well, you know, for this
former hack quarterback, that would be the uh, that would
be the culmination. And certainly, as a fan, if we
see Sam Darnold throw a pass like.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
That, we're gonna be already and like we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Be Yeah, I think you'll just be getting rid of
all your pants because you'll never be wearing them again.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, Oh yeah, the old reference will be Prince nineteen
ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
From how would that postgame show be here?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That'd be pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Oh god, Mini camp is over for the Sea all uh,
we'll see these guys on the field and the third
week of July. And there's look, obviously between now in
training camp. You don't often see a lot of moves made.
Moves get made in training camp when guys get hurt,
When rosters come out and players get cut, there's always
that flurry before the first game of the year or
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the first Monday of the year.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
But where are the Seahawks deficient right now? Roster wise?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Like if John Schneider came to you and said, hey, man,
where do we need help? What would you say to
him about where they're deficient? And where I want you
John to spend the next month and a half preparing
to make this position better.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Right guard ex receiver and pass rusher edge got it yea?
And and you know right guard there's a ah, there's
a battle. I don't know if it's a pillow fight
or if it's a legit battle, but that's an area
of big concern.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Let's go back to that for a second. Between le
Maya and Christian Haynes. You think that's one A and
one guard, so maybe three players, right? But are you
Are you surprised, Dick too, that the Seahawks didn't do
more to help out that position over the offseason. I
mean you they basically did nothing that right guard. They said, lameya, Bradford,
(09:11):
Christian Raynes. Same three guys we had a year ago,
same three guys we have now.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean obviously the expanded draft picks
U you know, Gray's abel obviously left guard, and of
their quick All right, I'm gonna give you both a
trivia question, but you have to answer in under one second.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I was told there'd be no test today. No, there's
a test. There's a test. Somebody told you wrong. Okay,
you got that. You got to answer that. Both of
you just blurted out. And it's got to be under
one second. Out of eleven draft picks, how many were
on the offensive side of the ball?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Go four, three, two? Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
But but so so the point is is here here
you look at got a defensive head coach. There had
to be a voice in that room to going, oh God,
give me some more guys. But I think, you know,
the the sentiment, whether it was way the board just
played out during the draft, and and that's the guys
who fell to him or what have you. But nine
of a nine of eleven, yeah, uh were on the offense,
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so and and and several offensive linemens. So you're kind
of throwing stuff against the wall hoping it sticks.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
You know. The X receiver issue is is.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Is real to me because the comparative advantage of uh,
not only Cooper Cup but j s N from a
year ago. The comparative advantage was clearly and undisputedly in
the slot. Now, I think the js N can play outside.
But the numbers, you know, in terms of frequency, just
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weren't there. And uh and and so X receiver is
a big factor to me. And then and then the
other part of it, Leonard Williams, you know three sacks,
uh are excuse not not Leonards Williams. Sorry, DeMarcus Lawrence D.
Law He had three sacks last year. I watched the
a lot of tape. The three sacks. They just fell
(11:02):
into him. He didn't beat anybody fast off the ball.
Two of them were up the middle where he was
just hanging around the lion of scrimmage and the quarterback
fell into him. And one of them where he was
way up the field on an outside rush on his
left side, and the quarterback dropped. You know, it was
like fifteen yards behind the line of scrimmage and he
fell into that one. So I think d Law. I'm
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good friends with Jason Garrett. Jason Garrett is one of
the best dudes I know, and we've had conversations. Garrett
loves him the person. Still still think he's got a
lot of juice left in him. So I'd like to
defer to adjacent but Jason, but that lack of aircraft carrier,
you know, to use baseball term middle of the lineup,
a home run hitter. You know, you'd just like to
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see a guy with some elite juice off the edge,
and I don't see it on the roster.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Well, nick Emman Warry lined up at outside linebacker in
Minnie Camp inside linebacker nickel box. So is this a
guy that can be kind of what we hoped Jamal
Adams was going to be and that's like a jack
of all trades, use him everywhere type player, or do
you think he's just gonna settle in more to the
Cam Chancellor role.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Well, I think it's a fair question about Jamal Adams.
But but I'm gonna break out in hives and have
a like an itchy belly because.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I just that he could be and he never won.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
No, so let's let's let's uh uh, let's go with
Kyle Hamilton, right the the All Pro, first team All
Pro safety from the ravens uh from the scheme standpoint,
I would love to probe Mike McDonald about just what
attributes about Hamilton does he see in nick Ammon Warry.
(12:38):
But based on my tape assessment of Imon Worri at
South Carolina and then I went back and watched tape
of Hamilton at Notre Dame, both of them first rounders,
I think, Uh, Emon war he's a better athlete. He
just flat as a better athlete. You got Hamilton's a
little longer, uh. And I think Hamilton probably has more
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just native instincts, just innate instincts about where the ball
is going to go. So so you got a better
athlete than Ama and Worry. I think McDonald, I'm just
gonna conjecture on my part, I think that McDonald thinks
that he can instill not necessarily instincts, because those could
be innate, but he can instill the react the short,
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short processing time that we see in Kyle Hamilton. He can,
by virtue of teaching, can get Eman worried to have
that kind of a heady game. And I think that
McDonald is just is in love with that, you know,
the physical uh, that the tool set that he gets
em and worry. I'm I'm fascinated to see how to
use it.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well, they had how many draft picks total? And this
last two years draft?
Speaker 6 (13:44):
You?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I got eleven eleven?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So seven of the so eight of the eleven or
seven nine of the eleven were on the defensive side
of the ball.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
You no, offensive side of the ball?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Are the the wait a minute, how many? How many?
How many draft picks are on offense?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Nine eleven?
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I thought you said two were on off You said
two were on us?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Said defense?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Offense? No, you said offense, And I said the question
said that wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, that's wrong because they you're saying that they drafted
way more guys on offense than defense.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Correct, Okay, good, gotcha.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Well, if I kicked then that's that's fine.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But which, by the way, it makes it even more
amazing if they spent nine of their eleven draft picks
on offense that they did not even address the right
guard situation.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Right whatsoever they spent, they would.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Say, yeah, yeah, I mean Bryce cable Doo, the guard
from Kansas. He was a sixth round pick, as rich
Men's not yea, that's seventh rounder.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
No, you're right, You're you're right.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
But hey, Hugh, listen before you go, I have a
non football, non baseball question for you. Okay, you know
the other name Ipe Misahara. You know who that is
that they ring about with you at all? No, he
is Shohe Otani's former in purpose who today is starting
a fifty seven month prison set. Well, you're gonna ask
for stealing seventeen million dollars from show, hey Otana.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Now, I will tell you this.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I don't think it's accurate, but there are some people
that believe that I be Missahara has taking the fall
for Otani and that it was Otani, not Missahara, who
was placing all these bets with this offshore bookie. Okay,
I don't believe that, but there's people that have said that.
My question to you is this, if I came to
you and said, Hugh, I'm in dire straits. I need
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you to take the fall for me. And part of
the fall for me is going to prison for almost
five years. How much money would I have to give
you to do fifty seven months for me?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Is there a number?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
And I'm gonna be a convicted felon?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I guess is there a number? Is there?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Is there any number? No, there's some things. There's some
things my kids would not be for sale. And what
you just said is not for it?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Is it different for.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
You because you're sixty years old versus the twenty five
year old humillin possible?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yeah, but look, look I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I mean, I'm in a no win situation answering this
question because it's it's a it's a hypothetical that doesn't exist.
And so if I if I say, hey, listen, my
integrity matters, and and not having my kids know me
as a convicted felon, but be able.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
To tell you that platitude, tell.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Your kids that you're taking the fall from me, they
would not think of you as a felon.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I thought what you're gonna say is, hey, look I'm
rich already. I don't need the money.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Anybody listen, there's nobody that couldn't use an extra fifty
seven billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I'm gonna give you a billion dollars to do four
and a half years in jail. You wouldn't do it
for a billion?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Would you sell Gina for a billion to a uh
sell her? I don't know Asian sex.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
That's not what.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
We're doing here. We're doing four and a half years.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I'm not selling my wife to Robert redfist got twisted
at a hurt.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Look, I'm taking you to an absurd spot to get
you to say, there are some things that yes, would
not do.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I would not do the money in the wrect that
I would not do.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
But you don't have kids, so I didn't say, Dick Vane,
would you sell either of your kids? Of course to
a child trafficking mark?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Of course, he one. But that's not a question.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Ask me if I would do fifty seven months for
a billion, I would say yes, I would do that.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yes, I would do that.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
What yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:29):
You know?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And you you and you'd go as a convicted fell
in the rest of don't care.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I got a billion dollars, what do I give it?
Damn call me whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Half years you might die in there.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Maybe could Maybe I'll meet somebody. You you're the man.
We'll talk to everybody. You come on four nine, four
or five one? What would people need? First of all,
would you even consider it? Would you even can?
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Now?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Again, I think when you have kids in your older
different story? Right, But let's say, let's just say, I
don't know does Ipe have a family?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Do we know? Are the little Misahara is running around?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So is there any scenario kids, no kids, whatever where
you would at least want to consider the proposition.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
All right, let's talk about it, all right? Next ninety
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Speaker 2 (18:33):
All right, so the topic is your that's the topic
of the day. That sounds good. I'll have that one.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Ipei Misahara, the disgrace, former interpreter for Angel or Dodger
Superstar show Hey Otane, reported to federal prison today. Ordered
to surrender to federal authorities by Monday. He is in
custody at the Federal Corrections Institution Allan Wood Low, a
low security facility. So we're talking like Wolf of Wall
(19:01):
Street playing tennis, maybe not El Chappo after being sentenced
to fifty seven months in prison for stealing nearly seventeen
million dollars from Cheo Toati. So you know how this worked.
I mean, when this initial report came on, Oh my
God show, he's betting on baseball. He's gonna get kicked
out of the game. It's gonna be the biggest scandal
in the history of Major League Baseball because when the
(19:21):
Pete Roads thing happened, Pete Rose was done, this would
be the face of the game, right getting thrown out
of Major League Baseball. So there are some conspiracy theorists
out there who believe that Misahara is taking a fall
for Shoeo Toati and going to jail for four and
a half years on his behalf.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
So let's just live in a world where that's actually accurate.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Jackson Dick, if I called you up and said, guys,
I need you, I need you for four and a
half years, it's gonna be a cush gig.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
You're gonna have your own cell.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You can go out and get donuts, come back whenever
you want, Just be back by nine o'clock like good fellas.
You can ship in your own wine, seafood, onions, garlic, sausage, cigars, whiskey.
You're gonna live like a king for four and a
half years, but you're gonna be in prison and to
be known as a convicted felon. How much money would
you have to get from me to make that worth
your softy?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Can I pay you to get this?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Sounds great?
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (20:21):
It sure sounds like conjugal visits are very much on
the table in this scenari.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Busy you whenever she wants.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Yeah, so all of this sounds what is the downside
to this? Well, you're in jail, yeah, but you're it
sounds pretty cushy. You can't leave the state, you can't
leave the city. You got to report back by a
certain time every day.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
But you can leave the jail. You can leave the jail.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Well, oh you just kind of ankle, I am I No, No,
you've got to go back to prison by nine o'clock
every night.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
I do I have a TV with streaming capabilities?
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
No, you get the Cheese Channel and a government champil
I am painting. Obviously a ridiculous scenario. Is this the
Wolf of Wall Street again? Like I realized I was
everything and he's playing tennis? Remember that at the end
of the movie. You guys have seen Wolf of Wall Street? Right,
gu I got friends that have not seen it, which
is ridiculous. But let's just throw out that insane scenario.
(21:10):
He's going to prison. He's going to a low security
federal correctional institution. So whatever comes along with that is
what you'll have to do. Is there any amount of
money I could give you to make that worth your while?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
I would have a couple of stipulations. First stipulation was,
it can't be right now. I will not miss my
two kids high school careers.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Okay, no amount of not being billion dollars billion, it
doesn't matter, faint family change. I definitely would never kids
will never have to work a day in their lives.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I wanted you to be.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Back by nine pm. Aren't events over by ninety?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
No, softie, I'm talking that whatever whatever comes along with
a typical no Im Jackson. On the other scenario, that's
totally different, if you know. But yeah, I mean, I
will never ever ever get my.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Kids high school careers back.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
And this is like, the next five years are both
my kids high school career?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
What if your kids go to college and the college.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Now if my kids are my kids are in their
twenties and they're off doing their own things. I don't
have grandkids yet. You know, there's there's a five there's
a five year window that I might be able to
consider it.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
The other thing would have to be it would have
to be like the blip Infinity War, right I where
I just poof leave and poof come back. I know
I'm gone for five years, but nobody.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Else that's not reality. Five you're you're out. That's not reality.
So I'm out. That's not real. So then I'm out.
Talking about two stipulations.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I'm at four and a half year federal correctional prison set.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I'm out.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Does not involve the world thinking that you were gone
for thirty sevens.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
I don't want my kids not to work for the
rest of their life.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Okay, all right, Jackson, how about.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
You we're talking four years.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
You said four and a half years. Yep, fifty seven
months in Jakay.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
I know, I know, you wiped the dream scenario off
the table. Are conjugal visits still on the table?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yes, yes they are.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
Okay, all you're thinking about is sex, well, because all
I'm thinking about is like this is the time for me,
like where I'm trying to form a family.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I got that.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
If that's off the table.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Then I help you feel hard my got Okay.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
So if that's then I'm out entirely.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
But if that you're still still have conjugal visits. Yeah,
it's still allowed.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I mean, if that's if that's still on it.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
But those conjugal visits worked, you're gonna miss the first
three and a half years of your kid's life.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
He could hang out with his kid forever, because it
never works.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
And that's the thing though, is that what amount of
money will make up for those first couple of years.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Fifty million, one hundred million?
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Now my first number was one hundred, but I'm probably
north of that. I'm probably looking at more like five
hundred million.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Half a billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, and you or your kids or your wife and
anybody you know that's close to you, or let's just
let's make this work again.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Let's always be taken care of.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
Let's make the one hundred million forevery year I have
to do it. That's with them, with I will not
take over four years. I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Let's just call it an even four fifty, four hundred
and fifty million dollars. Yeah, is your is your price dead?
Speaker 4 (23:56):
That's my price tag right now?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
It's my money? Okay, Yeah, all right?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I mean geez, I mean everyone's got their price, right,
I think there's even a price. I mean there's no
price for you whatsoever. No amount of money, Dick would
let you miss your kids high school careers.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
No, no, ten million, No, it doesn't matter. You're the
richest man in the history of the life.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Honestly, I've always felt this way.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
This is why probably I've worked in radio for last.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Week, because like like, would I rather enjoy my life
and be able to buy the things I need to
buy and have fun with my family, or would I
rather give something up that is that you can't even
put a price.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
With that much money, believably rich.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
With that much money, you could buy your own high school,
send your kids back and sign up about five hundred kids.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
To take take part with them in the high school experience.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I don't think they'd want to go to the all right,
So Dick says, no amount of money four nine, four
or five one? Is there any amount of money out
there everybody listening, where you would do four and a
half years to take the fall for a friend in
a federal prison. You're uh, you know, you're innocent. The
world thinks you're guilty. But this person that is sending
(25:05):
you to jail can write you a check for whatever
number you asked for.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
That would be the other thing people go to people
with the rest of your life would think you're a
scumb by.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
Yeah, but hold hold one. But it's specifically what crime
we're talking about here. If I mean, if we're talking
about Epe and and like what he did, okay, like
he'll get out of prison, and you know, what's what's
the lasting you know, view.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
On him from the public.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I don't know, Like I.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
Don't think people think kill the guy like that, like
this this isn't this is what what a horrible human being?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Nobody's thinking that.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
No, I don't think so, I mean, don't isn't that
Andrew Wiener, who's the politician that had the thing, he's
running again for office or he's back on TV or
I mean, America loves redemption stories.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Man, right, we are very forgiving. We all know that.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I mean, can you imagine if in four and a
half years from now, some Japanese handy capping sports channel
gives Ipe Musahara his own show. I mean, Tim donaghy
is doing podcasts, right, He's all over the place.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Remember that if he referee.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
If he were to come out and the first thing
he does coming out of prison, the stories he's got,
he's got all the cameras on him, he just comes
out and breaks down in tears. I'm so sorry, Please
forgive me. I've he'll be He'll be fine. I don't
think he even needs to do that.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I think he's a big enough name where there's gonna
be some people out there that will want to hear what.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
He has to say.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
His his his his stories and the kind of people
that he's been exposed to when the underbelly of the
sports betting business.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
There's a book, dude, Yeah, there's a And how much
money do you make on the back end from that
book deal?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Maybe more than I mean, maybe enough to justify going
to jail four and a half years exactly. That's all
I'm saying it's all maybe part of the playing dude,
all right, four thirty nine, four nine, four five one
text the mornings, and then John Wilner is gonna join
at five. He normally joins on Tuesday, but we're off
for early tomorrow. For hockey, Wazoo is eliminating track and field,
(27:05):
all field events, limiting sprints and hurdles. In the future,
I believe this is going to affect twenty four athletes
that no longer can compete in college. Is this the
tip of the iceberg for Olympic sports? We'll talk to
John about this at five on ninety three to three KJRFM.
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