June 4, 2025 • 26 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Edmonton Oilers play by play voice Cam Moon about the Stanley Cup Final series starting tonight against Florida again for a second straight year, then the guys discuss Jorge Polanco’s big hitting drop.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, let's get to it coming up tonight in
under an hour. It's not face off because face off
is like five.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Seventeen or so.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
We don't know when it is because nobody can really know.
It's a government secret. What time they dropped the puck
tonight in Edmonton, But their pregame show is already underway
and joining us right now on the radio show from Edmonton.
The voice, the radio voice of the Oilers, Cam Moon,
is with us on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Cameron, how are you man?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Oh, I'm doing all right. I'm fired up for a
Danley Cup Game one, I can tell you that much.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, talk about what this means to Edmonton. You haven't
won since Gretzky in nineteen ninety. You've been back here
I think twice, and you lost both series. What would
it mean to that city and what would it mean
to you as an Oiler fan to see them finally
hoist the cup for the first time in thirty five years.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Wow, it would be It's immense. Hockey is like a
religion in Canada. I don't need to tell you, guys
know that it's but it's a huge deal. And the
fact that they went to Game seven last year and
and Law fought back from being down three nothing in
that series get it to a game seven, lose by
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a goal. They lost in Game seven in two thousand
and six to Carolina. That was a bit of a
bit of a Cinderella run in a way. Last year
was you know that they were a top team all
year and this year a top team all year and
they fought and clawed their way back and they're they're
now back in it. So yeah, it would be a
huge deal. Oil Country is is you know, it's a
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big thing around here. And just the amount of people
in Jerseys when I walked to the rink tonight and
I see it all throughout the Stanley Cup playoffs, it's
just it's it's absolutely crazy. So yeah, I could imagine
the party would go on if the others were able
to win this year, the party would go on for
an extended period of time.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Can't talk about how these teams are are different than
the two that played against each other a year ago
in the Stanley Cup finals. Will personnel wise and just
style wise.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, on the Florida side, having a guy like Brad
marschaand adding to the team from the Boston Bruins this year.
He brings experience, but he also brings that ability to
really upset the opposition and he does it very well.
On the back end for Florida. You know, guy like
Steph Jones that come over from Chicago and is a
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good puck moving defenseman, just a solid defenseman. So those
two are to me, the you know, the real big
differences in what the Panthers look like for the Edmonton Oilers.
Jake Wallman on the back end. They got him from
San Jose this year via trade. John Klingbert came as
a free agent but didn't play much during the regular season.
It's been really good in the playoffs. Evander Kaine missed
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the entire season with the surgery and then then a
knee issue and didn't play until the playoffs, and he's
been really good. And he was a guy that was
injured last year in the Stanley Cup. To have a
healthy Evander Kaine gives the Edmonton Oilers a different look too.
So yeah, those those are kind of the differences, but
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there's still a lot of similarities and it's a heavy
good for checking Florida Panther team and they are the
champs and they've got that, you know that cachet about them.
But the Edmonton Oilers, they've been here before and they're
incredibly hungry. So it's a great clash, it's a great matchup.
It's outstanding to see it happening again for the second
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year in a row.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Well Cam Moon again is the play by play voice
on radio for the Oilers. We talked about last year's series,
fall down three to zero, your Force Game seven, unbelievable
drama and then fall short. How much is this wye
on Connor McDavid when he goes home at night and
thinks about the comparisons to Wayne Gretzky. You know him
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as a player, you know him as a person. How
much does this stuff weigh on his stories?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You think?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I know this. Connor McDavid has won one goal and
the only thing he's worried about is winning is Stanley Cup.
He's not worried about comparisons Dwayne gretzk. He's not worried
about winning scoring titles quite honestly, although you know he's
gonna win his fair share just because of pure skill.
But you know, Stan Bowman, the GM of the Vonton Oilers,
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spoke yesterday at Media Day and said in his first
meeting with Connor McDavid last summer, he was unbelieve, he
could not believe how the only thing Connor talked about
was winning a Stanley Cup.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That is his.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Single goal and single focus. And I could see that.
You could see the disappointment to hurt in his face
and in his eyes when they lost last year in
Game seven. And I know that has been the focus
for him throughout the offseason, throughout this season. It's all
about winning a Stanley Cup. It's all about the team
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and the fact that they've got their way. They got
they found their way back here again, and it was tough.
They'd go through Dallas, Vegas in LA. Those are all
really good teams, and found a way to do it
in five against Dallas and five against Vegas, in six
against LA. And I know for Connor that is the
number one folks, It's all about winning a Stanley Cup.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Well, they got into that three to zero hole like you,
like you mentioned last year, but I would imagine part
of that was simply because they were in Florida and
now they're not for Game one and two at least,
So what else got Edmonton in that three to zero
hole besides not having home ice advantage.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, well, I give Florida full credit. Their goaltending of
Sergei Bbroski last year I thought was outstanding. In fact,
I thought the Oilers deserved a better faith in uh.
In the first three games could have been down, you know,
two games to one, they could have been up two
games to one, but sir Ga Lebroski played so well
in those early games in this series. Now, Edmonton we're
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able to you know, solve them to some degree later
on in this series, but not in game seven.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
And when Edmonton just kept they just stayed with it,
stayed with it, got after it, and maybe Florida let
off the gas a little bit. In Game four, Oilers
rolled them up. That was here in Rogers Place in Everton,
and then that kind of got the ball rolling. But
to me, this is a Florida team that is good
on the ford check. They're a heavy team. They're gonna
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play a physical game. Edmonton has to be ready for that.
They have to match that. But they've got to find
ways to get pucked by Sir Gaba Brovsky because to me,
he is an elite goldtender when it comes to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, well Cam Moon again is with us on the
radio show, and Cam I'm just curious, do they need
Connor McDavid to be an absolute superstar to win this
series or can they get away with him playing a
secondary role in your opinion?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Wow, I think it helps if he's a superstar. By
from what I've been able to watch throughout these playoffs,
Evan since got nineteen players that have scored a goal.
They've got eight players that have scored five or more.
So part of their success this year, what I'm getting
at is it hasn't just been Connor McDavid. Leon drives all. Yeah,
they're leading the way offensively and they're going to but
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it hasn't just been them. And that's what gives Oiler
fans some optimism because from the opposition point of view,
if you shut down Connor and Leon, you still have
a lot to deal with, and you know that hasn't
always been the case over the years with the Oilers.
I think their depth right now is as good as
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it's ever been and likely better. But if Connor McDavid
is at superstar status, which I absolutely expect, well, then
that helps lead everything.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
You mentioned Lebarovski last year. Statistically it says he's been
better than Stuart Skinner this year in the playoffs. Is
that what your eyes tell you as well? Or is
it pretty close?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Well, Stuart had struggles at the beginning of the LA series.
If he loses the first two games, he gets pulled.
Calvin Pickard comes in, wins six in a row, but
also gets injured, so then Stewart has to come back
in and he took a loss in the first game back.
Since then he's been six and one and I mean
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has turned things around. Then. That's the one thing Stuart
Skinner's been really good at is resetting if things don't
go well and just taking a step back. Calvin Pickard's
come in and played really well, done it all through
the regular season. He did it, you're again in the playoffs.
But to me right now, Stuart Skinner's playing at his
best and he'll need to. You absolutely have to have
great goaltending to win, because I know, sir Ga lebroxk
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he's going to be very good.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah yeah, well, Cam, before you go, Cam Moon again,
the radio played by play voice of the Edmund Tonilers.
I know we can probably imagine what the atmosphere is
going to be like in that arena tonight. But for
those that have never been there, for those that were,
they don't understand it. Paint the picture for us. What
is that arena going to be like in around six
twenty mountain time tonight.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Well, they're gonna be Jersey oiler jerseys as far as
the eye can see, Oiler towels everywhere. The national anthem
gets sung at a pitch that.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Television does not do justice to. It's deafening loud. When
you get to the to the anthem and the let's
go Oilers chants that are going to start the second
the team hits the ice will also be deafening.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
They really get into it here. And I'm a guy
I grew up in Edmonton. I remember going to games
in the eighties, to the playoffs and knew how loud
it was back then. Was even louder now. And there's
not only will there be eighteen thousand people in the building,
outside the building at the Moss Hit and the fan park,
there's going to be another ten thousand or so outside
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the building. So you're looking at close to thirty thousand
people in a very small area, all here because of
the Stanley Cup, so it will be pandemonium camp final.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Thank for me. Think back to how you felt three
hundred and sixty five days ago and your confidence level
going to that Stanley Cup finals versus how you feel today, better, worse, same?
How do you feel?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Oh, definitely better? And the reason I say that is
because of the depth of the team, the fact that
they've been scoring throughout the lineup and quite honestly, the
fact that they've done this before. Now that they've been
here before. I mean, I know Ford has been here before.
This is their third year in the finals. They won
last year. But the fact that they alas have been
through all of it and they see me ups from
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the downs to the Stanley Cup Final, they end up
playing the same team. They know what the Florida Panthers
are all about. If anything's gonna help them along, it's
the fact that they've been through all of it.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
And it's not just the on the ice, step off
the ice stuff too. About all the spotlight that is
the Stanley Cup Final, but whether it's media stop, whether
it's you know, friends and family, all of that, they've
been through it before. Yeah, So now it gets down
to what happens on the ice.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Well, Cam, one more from me before you go. Cam
Moon again is the radio voice of the Oilers. We
got Game one Stanley Cup Final coming up at five o'clock.
This Lemon, by the way, is unbelievable. Oh my god,
it's fixing you crazy. But Cam, let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeh.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
The last Canadian team to win the Cup was the
Canadians in nineteen ninety three. Normally I would expect that Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, whatever,
would not be rooting for you guys. Do you feel like, now,
more than ever, a larger portion of the country is
getting behind this team.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I think so, But you're right, Like in Calgary, no chance, right,
And I respect it. I respect that they stick with
their team and Oilers flames. The Battle of Alberta. It
runs deep, and I don't just mean in sports, but
also politically all of it. It runs And I'm sure
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there's some Oiler fans in BC, but there wouldn't be
a lot out east. Out East, they might they might
jump on the Oiler bandwagon a bit more, only because
they're not bitter rivals. So yeah, I think there's some
love across the country. You just got to get a
little way out of Alberta to find it.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeap hey, Cam, listen, best of luck, great stuff. Enjoyed
Game one tonight and we'll talk down the roadman, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Pal right on, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Guys, you got it, no, thank you. Cam Moon is
the radio voice for the Oilers. We got Game one
of that series coming up at five o'clock tonight. And
I mean every now and then, you guys know this,
there's a national event that's got nothing to do with
your favorite team, and you find an easy rooting interest,
right like when the Red Sox played the Yankees and
the Alcs or the Cubs and Indians and the World Series.
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Whoever had won that series would get their first championship
in forever ago the Packers in the Super Bowl when
Holmegren took them back in the day in the nineties.
For me, this is on that list because you know
how much those people love that sport and.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
You know how long they've been waiting for it.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Well and also, I mean, I when the when the
NHL expanded to SEC territory, I always thought it was
a little odd. And the fact that those teams had
so much success.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
This is this is you all.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Like, good lord, Carolina and Nashville and Tampa and FLD.
It's like they're all winning and then here's Edmonton. They
haven't won in forever. So yeah, absolutely, I am room
for the Oilers. And last week last year was such
a disappointment because I was rude for the Olders last
year and that series was over very very quickly. And
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then you jumped back on the wagon for a game seven.
You're like, oh my god, this could be a history.
But like, honestly, I stopped watching probably after Game two
and a half. I was like, all right, this series
is over. YEA watched didn't watch the end of three,
didn't watch four, didn't watch five, didn't watch six. And
then I was like, oh wow, we got a game seven.
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I'm back on it again. And then of course they
lose to to one, and so you're disappointed.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, No, I just think it's phenomenal theater.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I love the fact that we're carrying all these games,
and we got game one again coming up at five o'clock.
Face off could be an hour later after five, we
don't know five twenty, but face off around five o'clock.
We'll get to the pregame show around five pm. Hey, look,
it's Daniel Lori on TV. All right, we got another
forty minutes to go. We'll get some texts at four
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nine four or five one for textimonials at four forty five.
We can revisit the Seahawk conversation. I haven't spent a
lot of time on the Mariner topic today. George Kirby
better but still not good enough for a win because
the offense fell apart last night against Baltimore. Are we
focusing on the wrong thing with the conversation about this
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baseball team? Should the conversation be now about the offense?
And is the end of the line for hore Plonko
on the horizon. I saw a little quote from our
buddy Anders who's said the hore Polanco we're seeing now
is worse than the one that we.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Saw a year ago.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
How much rope does this guy get before they say
enough It's enough?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
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Speaker 2 (15:32):
Know I take this, go ahead, tell you take it.
I'll rest my voice. You take it.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Oh, taking a lot lately, I know you. That's why
I feel terrible to meet a step in my.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
By the way, look who's you wanted to? Who's called
the world?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
So I was wondering about I was wondering about the
sequence of what did you notice this? So so the
ESPN's doing the uh college World College Worlds with the
Queen Forts. Yes, and Daniel Lorii's part of the you know,
part of the pregame, right, And there's four ladies, nice
looking ladies above the diamond doing the pregame, right, and
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they're all wearing sequins like they're like.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Nice looking ladies. They're they're all are the ninety Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Also nic I mean it looks like they just got
done with a with a party at the Met.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
And I'm not talking about the steakhouse. I'm talking to
like the Met in New York.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Right, it's like the museum.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
It's a softball game. I don't know at a baseball
you're at a baseball diamond and you're wearing like dresses.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I know nothing about softball media etiquette. So next time
we have Danielle or Heather Tar or somebody.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
On the show. They're all blingy.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
We could ask them, but I guess that's the way
they roll in that world. I'll tell you what, man,
Hora Polanko's rolling the wrong way. Yesterday we talked about
what he had done when I was on vacation, and
you pointed this out, and you're exactly right. It's not
just what he's done the last two weeks. Since what
the guy's done since the first of May. I mean
the first twenty two games of the year, Horray Polanco
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hit three eighty four with a twelve twenty six OPS,
nine home runs in twenty five ribies. And then since
the first of May he's a one thirty eight hitter
with a three ninety eight OPS, with one bomb and
five RBIs in twenty five games.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I mean, he has totally falling off the map. And
you and I yesterday talked.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
About going out getting a bat, We talked about getting
a reliever. Things like that. Look with Cole Young now
at second, Williamson now at third, and rowdy Roddy Piper
apparently going nowhere for now at first base. Whose spot
do you go after? You go after the dh Spot.
Yeah right, and that's Horry Palanko.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Well, I mean, I said Horry Polanco last year was
a shot fighter because he looked like a shot fighter,
and he's looked like a shot fighter for the last month.
He didn't look like a shot fighter in April, and
that was it. Now I'm I am willing to go
down the road. No, I mean if he makes me
all start, well, he was on his way after if
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he would have had a May even close to what
he had like an April, he probably would have. But
my point is this, I am willing to go down
the road of he looked like a shot fighter last
year because he was hurt and then he got healthy,
and then he got hurt again. So I mean, I'm
willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm
willing to give him a little more time to try
to get healthier. But but maybe he's just not right.
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Maybe he is just he's a thirty one year old
baseball player that's been in this league for eleven years,
and sometimes thirty one looks more like thirty five or
thirty six to some players. And maybe that's it with
Jorge Blanco.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, I just think again, if it's all about the injury,
and I see the sequence you're talking about by the
way they are fancy. If it's all about if it's
all about the injuries with him, then I mean, so
what I mean that's a problem, right, I mean the
fact that the guy can't hit from both sides of
the play, the fact that he can't go out and
do what he was born to do when he was,
you know, a kid playing little league baseball. Whether it's
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poor performance or injury, all we're looking for is results,
and there's results.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Are not coming.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
So I guess I just wonder, Jackson, how much longer
they stick with this guy?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (19:17):
I think that's a good question because part of this
is also becoming sort of the Jared k Hellenic.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
I love it.
Speaker 8 (19:27):
It's funny, I mean joking aside. The funny thing about
him was like even when he went to Atlanta, he
had like a month where it's like, oh my god,
this guy is ranking and then it's sort of like,
now these back to the player that he sort of
was in Seattle, and it feels sort of like that
where you might get spurts at a Jorge Polanco, but
at the end of the day, he is who he is,
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and he's just not a full you know, can trust
him to be out there every single day baseball player.
So in terms of how long you trust him, I mean,
I don't know. For me, I'd give it another month.
But if we get through June and he continues to
be the worst hitter on the Seattle Mariners through June,
then there's gonna be absolutely no choice but to say,
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you know what, we tried it last year.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Didn't work.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
We had a great month April was just beyond anything
we ever expected or saw. But at the end of
the day, he just I mean, and listen, if you
can get the one hundredth rated prospect of somebody for
Jorge Polanco, great, not gonna happen. So you might as
well just cut your losses at that point.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I'm a little more optimistic overall than I was last
year at this time because I remember being the guy
that ticks off the off last year when we were
ten games up in the West and I was like,
it's an above average baseball team, no more than that,
and pready.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Hang on just a second, trying to rest my voice.
Youer making that impossible. Well, you're telling me that when
they were ten games up on first place. You thought
they'd blow the lead and fall apart.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
No, I didn't think they but I just said they're
not as good as their record starcade.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
As they became the second team in the WOWD card
air to blow it right, right, right right?
Speaker 8 (21:03):
But you remember that, Jackson, right, I mean, I was
you said smokings.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I was not at all impressed by what I saw
on the field now. But you thought they'd be a
playoff team, of course, because they were ten games up
in the West, so I thought they would win the
requisite game.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
I remember correctly, you said they might make the playoffs.
But I don't feel like this team's built a good
old World Series. And that's where that was where you
made big disagreements, because you Safty you and I felt
like this team was potential to go to a World
Series if they got there.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
And whatever my confidence level was of that team, even
though they're not ten games up in the West, I
think this team is slightly better than that one was
because I think they're considerably better offensively, and I think
the pitching will get back to somewhere close to where
it was last year. Probably not all the way back,
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but some I have. I've seen enough of George Kirby,
I've seen enough Logan of Logan Gilbert to know those
guys are dudes, and those dudes will eventually be healthy.
They'll get through their quote unquote spring training in May
and June right and they'll get back to the George
Kirby and Logan Gilbert and Bryce Miller. I'm not as
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I've never been as much in love with Bryce Miller
as I have been with Kirbyan and Gilbert, but I
still think he's a very good pitcher, and he's an
absolute great middle of the rotation type type guy. And
now the question is is Houston. What's Houston? Is Houston
an eighty five win team. Well, if Houston's an eighty
five win team, I feel pretty comfortable in saying that
the Mariners are gonna win the West. If Houston's a
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ninety win team, I don't feel at all comfortable in
saying that the Mariners are gonna win the West or
make a wildcard.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Which is funny because the lines there are so slim,
right like those games can be divided by the edge
of a knife. The problem is is that Houston, we know,
we know guys is going to go out and make
a move. They're going to make a big impact move
of the deadline. And if the Mariners treat it like
they was a couple of years ago, when we'll make
the seawalld move and they kind of say, listen, well,
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we all we have financial constraints. We made the move
for Tavaris, and we don't feel like we can go
at a big piece, so we're just gonna watch Houston
go and overtake us. And because they did go make
a move, then yeah, you take absolutely right. They're gonna
win ninety games, we're gonna win eighty three to eighty
five games, and we're gonna be left in the dust.
So the question, mister Hollander, mister Depoto, are you able
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to go make a move, because it's very very clear
to all of us that for this offense to become
a playoff level offense, we have to make a move.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Well, we talked yesterday about twenty twenty three, right, SOFTI
was asking they make a move in twenty to eighty three,
and all they did was get rid of Paul Seawell.
But right, if you look back at the reasoning behind that,
whether or not it was flawed reasoning or not it was.
Let me rephrase that it was flawed reasoning, yes, but
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the reason was is that Jerry Depoto did not think
they were in the playoff race. He was wrong, he
was wrong, wrong, But they were only fifty three and
fifty one on July the twenty ninth, So what are
they gonna be this July thirty first? Are they gonna
be three or four games over five hundred. Well, if
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that's the case, then Jared Dipoto may or may not
think they're in the playoff race, depending on where they
are compared Paired Oakland. I can I can guarantee you
because of what I've seen in the past, when Jerry
Depoto feels like they're in the all the playoff race,
which a ten game over five hundred Mariner team would absolutely,
unquestionably be on July thirty first, if they can get
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the ten games over five hundred or around there, then
I feel very, very comfortable saying Jerry Depoto will make
a move to try to improve his roster, particularly his
offense and his bull I hope you're right.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I don't feel comfortable saying that at all. Yeah, exactly, at.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
All, Even if even if they're like in first place.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I will say comfortable saying he'll try absolutely, and he'll
tell us he tried. I don't feel comfortable saying I'll
get it done. I mean, where was their rotation? Where
was their pitching staff in twenty twenty three? And when
they were fifty three and fifty one? How many games
out of the wildcard were they? You remember at the deadline?
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
I mean I can tell you where Houston wasn't because half.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
The damn league is making the playoffs right now.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
If you're hovering around five hundred and you're in the
wildcard race, then you should make a move.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I mean, look, you know, I get it. You know
they just didn't do it right. And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I would never say I feel comfortable with them making
a move because they've proven in years past when they
do need help that they won't get help.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Okay, well Houston was sixty and forty seven?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
What about the wildcard?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Where were they in the wildcard race? I don't have
any idea where they were at that point?
Speaker 4 (25:37):
They were fit?
Speaker 8 (25:38):
Do I see fifth?
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Here?
Speaker 8 (25:39):
They were fifth in the wildcard race?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But how many games back were they? A half game back?
Were they a game back? Where were they when that
team clearly needed some help?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Right?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Looks like they were.
Speaker 8 (25:48):
Looks like they were two and a half games back
in the wild card.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Hey, look they they said they tried to make a
move and they just said the price was too high. Well,
I mean the prices that can no longer be too high.
The problem is now you're starting to a little bit
run out of ammunition in the minor leagues because all
those guys are coming up.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I thought the point that who we have.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
On yesterday, By the way, Larry Stone made the point
about Harry Ford.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
If you bring him up and.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
He struggles, that's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Are you going to blow his stock?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And is it better to keep the machine on the
shine at triple A? Let him stay there, let everybody
think the guy's a star, and get something for him
that can help you now versus rolling the dice and
bringing him up and he struggles.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
So but not a rent a player. No, I don't
want to trade Harry Ford for a rent a player.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Let's get a break
All right, let's get to it coming up tonight in
under an hour. It's not face off because face off
is like five.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Seventeen or so.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
We don't know when it is because nobody can really know.
It's a government secret. What time they dropped the puck
tonight in Edmonton, But their pregame show is already underway
and joining us right now on the radio show from Edmonton.
The voice, the radio voice of the Oilers, Cam Moon,
is with us on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Cameron, how are you man?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Oh, I'm doing all right. I'm fired up for a
Danley Cup Game one, I can tell you that much.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, talk about what this means to Edmonton. You haven't
won since Gretzky in nineteen ninety. You've been back here
I think twice, and you lost both series. What would
it mean to that city and what would it mean
to you as an Oiler fan to see them finally
hoist the cup for the first time in thirty five years.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Wow, it would be It's immense. Hockey is like a
religion in Canada. I don't need to tell you, guys
know that it's but it's a huge deal. And the
fact that they went to Game seven last year and
and Law fought back from being down three nothing in
that series get it to a game seven, lose by
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a goal. They lost in Game seven in two thousand
and six to Carolina. That was a bit of a
bit of a Cinderella run in a way. Last year
was you know that they were a top team all
year and this year a top team all year and
they fought and clawed their way back and they're they're
now back in it. So yeah, it would be a
huge deal. Oil Country is is you know, it's a
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big thing around here. And just the amount of people
in Jerseys when I walked to the rink tonight and
I see it all throughout the Stanley Cup playoffs, it's
just it's it's absolutely crazy. So yeah, I could imagine
the party would go on if the others were able
to win this year, the party would go on for
an extended period of time.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Can't talk about how these teams are are different than
the two that played against each other a year ago
in the Stanley Cup finals. Will personnel wise and just
style wise.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, on the Florida side, having a guy like Brad
marschaand adding to the team from the Boston Bruins this year.
He brings experience, but he also brings that ability to
really upset the opposition and he does it very well.
On the back end for Florida. You know, guy like
Steph Jones that come over from Chicago and is a
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good puck moving defenseman, just a solid defenseman. So those
two are to me, the you know, the real big
differences in what the Panthers look like for the Edmonton Oilers.
Jake Wallman on the back end. They got him from
San Jose this year via trade. John Klingbert came as
a free agent but didn't play much during the regular season.
It's been really good in the playoffs. Evander Kaine missed
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the entire season with the surgery and then then a
knee issue and didn't play until the playoffs, and he's
been really good. And he was a guy that was
injured last year in the Stanley Cup. To have a
healthy Evander Kaine gives the Edmonton Oilers a different look too.
So yeah, those those are kind of the differences, but
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there's still a lot of similarities and it's a heavy
good for checking Florida Panther team and they are the
champs and they've got that, you know that cachet about them.
But the Edmonton Oilers, they've been here before and they're
incredibly hungry. So it's a great clash, it's a great matchup.
It's outstanding to see it happening again for the second
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year in a row.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Well Cam Moon again is the play by play voice
on radio for the Oilers. We talked about last year's series,
fall down three to zero, your Force Game seven, unbelievable
drama and then fall short. How much is this wye
on Connor McDavid when he goes home at night and
thinks about the comparisons to Wayne Gretzky. You know him
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as a player, you know him as a person. How
much does this stuff weigh on his stories?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You think?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I know this. Connor McDavid has won one goal and
the only thing he's worried about is winning is Stanley Cup.
He's not worried about comparisons Dwayne gretzk. He's not worried
about winning scoring titles quite honestly, although you know he's
gonna win his fair share just because of pure skill.
But you know, Stan Bowman, the GM of the Vonton Oilers,
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spoke yesterday at Media Day and said in his first
meeting with Connor McDavid last summer, he was unbelieve, he
could not believe how the only thing Connor talked about
was winning a Stanley Cup.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That is his.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Single goal and single focus. And I could see that.
You could see the disappointment to hurt in his face
and in his eyes when they lost last year in
Game seven. And I know that has been the focus
for him throughout the offseason, throughout this season. It's all
about winning a Stanley Cup. It's all about the team
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and the fact that they've got their way. They got
they found their way back here again, and it was tough.
They'd go through Dallas, Vegas in LA. Those are all
really good teams, and found a way to do it
in five against Dallas and five against Vegas, in six
against LA. And I know for Connor that is the
number one folks, It's all about winning a Stanley Cup.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Well, they got into that three to zero hole like you,
like you mentioned last year, but I would imagine part
of that was simply because they were in Florida and
now they're not for Game one and two at least,
So what else got Edmonton in that three to zero
hole besides not having home ice advantage.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, well, I give Florida full credit. Their goaltending of
Sergei Bbroski last year I thought was outstanding. In fact,
I thought the Oilers deserved a better faith in uh.
In the first three games could have been down, you know,
two games to one, they could have been up two
games to one, but sir Ga Lebroski played so well
in those early games in this series. Now, Edmonton we're
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able to you know, solve them to some degree later
on in this series, but not in game seven.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
And when Edmonton just kept they just stayed with it,
stayed with it, got after it, and maybe Florida let
off the gas a little bit. In Game four, Oilers
rolled them up. That was here in Rogers Place in Everton,
and then that kind of got the ball rolling. But
to me, this is a Florida team that is good
on the ford check. They're a heavy team. They're gonna
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play a physical game. Edmonton has to be ready for that.
They have to match that. But they've got to find
ways to get pucked by Sir Gaba Brovsky because to me,
he is an elite goldtender when it comes to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, well Cam Moon again is with us on the
radio show, and Cam I'm just curious, do they need
Connor McDavid to be an absolute superstar to win this
series or can they get away with him playing a
secondary role in your opinion?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Wow, I think it helps if he's a superstar. By
from what I've been able to watch throughout these playoffs,
Evan since got nineteen players that have scored a goal.
They've got eight players that have scored five or more.
So part of their success this year, what I'm getting
at is it hasn't just been Connor McDavid. Leon drives all. Yeah,
they're leading the way offensively and they're going to but
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it hasn't just been them. And that's what gives Oiler
fans some optimism because from the opposition point of view,
if you shut down Connor and Leon, you still have
a lot to deal with, and you know that hasn't
always been the case over the years with the Oilers.
I think their depth right now is as good as
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it's ever been and likely better. But if Connor McDavid
is at superstar status, which I absolutely expect, well, then
that helps lead everything.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
You mentioned Lebarovski last year. Statistically it says he's been
better than Stuart Skinner this year in the playoffs. Is
that what your eyes tell you as well? Or is
it pretty close?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Well, Stuart had struggles at the beginning of the LA series.
If he loses the first two games, he gets pulled.
Calvin Pickard comes in, wins six in a row, but
also gets injured, so then Stewart has to come back
in and he took a loss in the first game back.
Since then he's been six and one and I mean
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has turned things around. Then. That's the one thing Stuart
Skinner's been really good at is resetting if things don't
go well and just taking a step back. Calvin Pickard's
come in and played really well, done it all through
the regular season. He did it, you're again in the playoffs.
But to me right now, Stuart Skinner's playing at his
best and he'll need to. You absolutely have to have
great goaltending to win, because I know, sir Ga lebroxk
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he's going to be very good.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah yeah, well, Cam, before you go, Cam Moon again,
the radio played by play voice of the Edmund Tonilers.
I know we can probably imagine what the atmosphere is
going to be like in that arena tonight. But for
those that have never been there, for those that were,
they don't understand it. Paint the picture for us. What
is that arena going to be like in around six
twenty mountain time tonight.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Well, they're gonna be Jersey oiler jerseys as far as
the eye can see, Oiler towels everywhere. The national anthem
gets sung at a pitch that.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Television does not do justice to. It's deafening loud. When
you get to the to the anthem and the let's
go Oilers chants that are going to start the second
the team hits the ice will also be deafening.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
They really get into it here. And I'm a guy
I grew up in Edmonton. I remember going to games
in the eighties, to the playoffs and knew how loud
it was back then. Was even louder now. And there's
not only will there be eighteen thousand people in the building,
outside the building at the Moss Hit and the fan park,
there's going to be another ten thousand or so outside
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the building. So you're looking at close to thirty thousand
people in a very small area, all here because of
the Stanley Cup, so it will be pandemonium camp final.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Thank for me. Think back to how you felt three
hundred and sixty five days ago and your confidence level
going to that Stanley Cup finals versus how you feel today, better, worse, same?
How do you feel?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Oh, definitely better? And the reason I say that is
because of the depth of the team, the fact that
they've been scoring throughout the lineup and quite honestly, the
fact that they've done this before. Now that they've been
here before. I mean, I know Ford has been here before.
This is their third year in the finals. They won
last year. But the fact that they alas have been
through all of it and they see me ups from
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the downs to the Stanley Cup Final, they end up
playing the same team. They know what the Florida Panthers
are all about. If anything's gonna help them along, it's
the fact that they've been through all of it.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
And it's not just the on the ice, step off
the ice stuff too. About all the spotlight that is
the Stanley Cup Final, but whether it's media stop, whether
it's you know, friends and family, all of that, they've
been through it before. Yeah, So now it gets down
to what happens on the ice.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Well, Cam, one more from me before you go. Cam
Moon again is the radio voice of the Oilers. We
got Game one Stanley Cup Final coming up at five o'clock.
This Lemon, by the way, is unbelievable. Oh my god,
it's fixing you crazy. But Cam, let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeh.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
The last Canadian team to win the Cup was the
Canadians in nineteen ninety three. Normally I would expect that Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, whatever,
would not be rooting for you guys. Do you feel like, now,
more than ever, a larger portion of the country is
getting behind this team.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I think so, But you're right, Like in Calgary, no chance, right,
And I respect it. I respect that they stick with
their team and Oilers flames. The Battle of Alberta. It
runs deep, and I don't just mean in sports, but
also politically all of it. It runs And I'm sure
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there's some Oiler fans in BC, but there wouldn't be
a lot out east. Out East, they might they might
jump on the Oiler bandwagon a bit more, only because
they're not bitter rivals. So yeah, I think there's some
love across the country. You just got to get a
little way out of Alberta to find it.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeap hey, Cam, listen, best of luck, great stuff. Enjoyed
Game one tonight and we'll talk down the roadman, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Pal right on, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Guys, you got it, no, thank you. Cam Moon is
the radio voice for the Oilers. We got Game one
of that series coming up at five o'clock tonight. And
I mean every now and then, you guys know this,
there's a national event that's got nothing to do with
your favorite team, and you find an easy rooting interest,
right like when the Red Sox played the Yankees and
the Alcs or the Cubs and Indians and the World Series.
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Whoever had won that series would get their first championship
in forever ago the Packers in the Super Bowl when
Holmegren took them back in the day in the nineties.
For me, this is on that list because you know
how much those people love that sport and.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
You know how long they've been waiting for it.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Well and also, I mean, I when the when the
NHL expanded to SEC territory, I always thought it was
a little odd. And the fact that those teams had
so much success.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
This is this is you all.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Like, good lord, Carolina and Nashville and Tampa and FLD.
It's like they're all winning and then here's Edmonton. They
haven't won in forever. So yeah, absolutely, I am room
for the Oilers. And last week last year was such
a disappointment because I was rude for the Olders last
year and that series was over very very quickly. And
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then you jumped back on the wagon for a game seven.
You're like, oh my god, this could be a history.
But like, honestly, I stopped watching probably after Game two
and a half. I was like, all right, this series
is over. YEA watched didn't watch the end of three,
didn't watch four, didn't watch five, didn't watch six. And
then I was like, oh wow, we got a game seven.
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I'm back on it again. And then of course they
lose to to one, and so you're disappointed.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, No, I just think it's phenomenal theater.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I love the fact that we're carrying all these games,
and we got game one again coming up at five o'clock.
Face off could be an hour later after five, we
don't know five twenty, but face off around five o'clock.
We'll get to the pregame show around five pm. Hey, look,
it's Daniel Lori on TV. All right, we got another
forty minutes to go. We'll get some texts at four
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nine four or five one for textimonials at four forty five.
We can revisit the Seahawk conversation. I haven't spent a
lot of time on the Mariner topic today. George Kirby
better but still not good enough for a win because
the offense fell apart last night against Baltimore. Are we
focusing on the wrong thing with the conversation about this
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baseball team? Should the conversation be now about the offense?
And is the end of the line for hore Plonko
on the horizon. I saw a little quote from our
buddy Anders who's said the hore Polanco we're seeing now
is worse than the one that we.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Saw a year ago.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
How much rope does this guy get before they say
enough It's enough?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
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Speaker 2 (15:32):
Know I take this, go ahead, tell you take it.
I'll rest my voice. You take it.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Oh, taking a lot lately, I know you. That's why
I feel terrible to meet a step in my.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
By the way, look who's you wanted to? Who's called
the world?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
So I was wondering about I was wondering about the
sequence of what did you notice this? So so the
ESPN's doing the uh college World College Worlds with the
Queen Forts. Yes, and Daniel Lorii's part of the you know,
part of the pregame, right, And there's four ladies, nice
looking ladies above the diamond doing the pregame, right, and
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they're all wearing sequins like they're like.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Nice looking ladies. They're they're all are the ninety Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Also nic I mean it looks like they just got
done with a with a party at the Met.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
And I'm not talking about the steakhouse. I'm talking to
like the Met in New York.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Right, it's like the museum.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
It's a softball game. I don't know at a baseball
you're at a baseball diamond and you're wearing like dresses.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I know nothing about softball media etiquette. So next time
we have Danielle or Heather Tar or somebody.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
On the show. They're all blingy.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
We could ask them, but I guess that's the way
they roll in that world. I'll tell you what, man,
Hora Polanko's rolling the wrong way. Yesterday we talked about
what he had done when I was on vacation, and
you pointed this out, and you're exactly right. It's not
just what he's done the last two weeks. Since what
the guy's done since the first of May. I mean
the first twenty two games of the year, Horray Polanco
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hit three eighty four with a twelve twenty six OPS,
nine home runs in twenty five ribies. And then since
the first of May he's a one thirty eight hitter
with a three ninety eight OPS, with one bomb and
five RBIs in twenty five games.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I mean, he has totally falling off the map. And
you and I yesterday talked.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
About going out getting a bat, We talked about getting
a reliever. Things like that. Look with Cole Young now
at second, Williamson now at third, and rowdy Roddy Piper
apparently going nowhere for now at first base. Whose spot
do you go after? You go after the dh Spot.
Yeah right, and that's Horry Palanko.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Well, I mean, I said Horry Polanco last year was
a shot fighter because he looked like a shot fighter,
and he's looked like a shot fighter for the last month.
He didn't look like a shot fighter in April, and
that was it. Now I'm I am willing to go
down the road. No, I mean if he makes me
all start, well, he was on his way after if
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he would have had a May even close to what
he had like an April, he probably would have. But
my point is this, I am willing to go down
the road of he looked like a shot fighter last
year because he was hurt and then he got healthy,
and then he got hurt again. So I mean, I'm
willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm
willing to give him a little more time to try
to get healthier. But but maybe he's just not right.
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Maybe he is just he's a thirty one year old
baseball player that's been in this league for eleven years,
and sometimes thirty one looks more like thirty five or
thirty six to some players. And maybe that's it with
Jorge Blanco.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, I just think again, if it's all about the injury,
and I see the sequence you're talking about by the
way they are fancy. If it's all about if it's
all about the injuries with him, then I mean, so
what I mean that's a problem, right, I mean the
fact that the guy can't hit from both sides of
the play, the fact that he can't go out and
do what he was born to do when he was,
you know, a kid playing little league baseball. Whether it's
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poor performance or injury, all we're looking for is results,
and there's results.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Are not coming.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
So I guess I just wonder, Jackson, how much longer
they stick with this guy?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (19:17):
I think that's a good question because part of this
is also becoming sort of the Jared k Hellenic.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
I love it.
Speaker 8 (19:27):
It's funny, I mean joking aside. The funny thing about
him was like even when he went to Atlanta, he
had like a month where it's like, oh my god,
this guy is ranking and then it's sort of like,
now these back to the player that he sort of
was in Seattle, and it feels sort of like that
where you might get spurts at a Jorge Polanco, but
at the end of the day, he is who he is,
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and he's just not a full you know, can trust
him to be out there every single day baseball player.
So in terms of how long you trust him, I mean,
I don't know. For me, I'd give it another month.
But if we get through June and he continues to
be the worst hitter on the Seattle Mariners through June,
then there's gonna be absolutely no choice but to say,
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you know what, we tried it last year.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Didn't work.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
We had a great month April was just beyond anything
we ever expected or saw. But at the end of
the day, he just I mean, and listen, if you
can get the one hundredth rated prospect of somebody for
Jorge Polanco, great, not gonna happen. So you might as
well just cut your losses at that point.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I'm a little more optimistic overall than I was last
year at this time because I remember being the guy
that ticks off the off last year when we were
ten games up in the West and I was like,
it's an above average baseball team, no more than that,
and pready.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Hang on just a second, trying to rest my voice.
Youer making that impossible. Well, you're telling me that when
they were ten games up on first place. You thought
they'd blow the lead and fall apart.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
No, I didn't think they but I just said they're
not as good as their record starcade.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
As they became the second team in the WOWD card
air to blow it right, right, right right?
Speaker 8 (21:03):
But you remember that, Jackson, right, I mean, I was
you said smokings.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I was not at all impressed by what I saw
on the field now. But you thought they'd be a
playoff team, of course, because they were ten games up
in the West, so I thought they would win the
requisite game.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
I remember correctly, you said they might make the playoffs.
But I don't feel like this team's built a good
old World Series. And that's where that was where you
made big disagreements, because you Safty you and I felt
like this team was potential to go to a World
Series if they got there.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
And whatever my confidence level was of that team, even
though they're not ten games up in the West, I
think this team is slightly better than that one was
because I think they're considerably better offensively, and I think
the pitching will get back to somewhere close to where
it was last year. Probably not all the way back,
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but some I have. I've seen enough of George Kirby,
I've seen enough Logan of Logan Gilbert to know those
guys are dudes, and those dudes will eventually be healthy.
They'll get through their quote unquote spring training in May
and June right and they'll get back to the George
Kirby and Logan Gilbert and Bryce Miller. I'm not as
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I've never been as much in love with Bryce Miller
as I have been with Kirbyan and Gilbert, but I
still think he's a very good pitcher, and he's an
absolute great middle of the rotation type type guy. And
now the question is is Houston. What's Houston? Is Houston
an eighty five win team. Well, if Houston's an eighty
five win team, I feel pretty comfortable in saying that
the Mariners are gonna win the West. If Houston's a
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ninety win team, I don't feel at all comfortable in
saying that the Mariners are gonna win the West or
make a wildcard.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Which is funny because the lines there are so slim,
right like those games can be divided by the edge
of a knife. The problem is is that Houston, we know,
we know guys is going to go out and make
a move. They're going to make a big impact move
of the deadline. And if the Mariners treat it like
they was a couple of years ago, when we'll make
the seawalld move and they kind of say, listen, well,
(23:00):
we all we have financial constraints. We made the move
for Tavaris, and we don't feel like we can go
at a big piece, so we're just gonna watch Houston
go and overtake us. And because they did go make
a move, then yeah, you take absolutely right. They're gonna
win ninety games, we're gonna win eighty three to eighty
five games, and we're gonna be left in the dust.
So the question, mister Hollander, mister Depoto, are you able
(23:21):
to go make a move, because it's very very clear
to all of us that for this offense to become
a playoff level offense, we have to make a move.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Well, we talked yesterday about twenty twenty three, right, SOFTI
was asking they make a move in twenty to eighty three,
and all they did was get rid of Paul Seawell.
But right, if you look back at the reasoning behind that,
whether or not it was flawed reasoning or not it was.
Let me rephrase that it was flawed reasoning, yes, but
(23:49):
the reason was is that Jerry Depoto did not think
they were in the playoff race. He was wrong, he
was wrong, wrong, But they were only fifty three and
fifty one on July the twenty ninth, So what are
they gonna be this July thirty first? Are they gonna
be three or four games over five hundred. Well, if
(24:10):
that's the case, then Jared Dipoto may or may not
think they're in the playoff race, depending on where they
are compared Paired Oakland. I can I can guarantee you
because of what I've seen in the past, when Jerry
Depoto feels like they're in the all the playoff race,
which a ten game over five hundred Mariner team would absolutely,
unquestionably be on July thirty first, if they can get
(24:33):
the ten games over five hundred or around there, then
I feel very, very comfortable saying Jerry Depoto will make
a move to try to improve his roster, particularly his
offense and his bull I hope you're right.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I don't feel comfortable saying that at all. Yeah, exactly, at.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
All, Even if even if they're like in first place.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I will say comfortable saying he'll try absolutely, and he'll
tell us he tried. I don't feel comfortable saying I'll
get it done. I mean, where was their rotation? Where
was their pitching staff in twenty twenty three? And when
they were fifty three and fifty one? How many games
out of the wildcard were they? You remember at the deadline?
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
I mean I can tell you where Houston wasn't because half.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
The damn league is making the playoffs right now.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
If you're hovering around five hundred and you're in the
wildcard race, then you should make a move.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I mean, look, you know, I get it. You know
they just didn't do it right. And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I would never say I feel comfortable with them making
a move because they've proven in years past when they
do need help that they won't get help.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Okay, well Houston was sixty and forty seven?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
What about the wildcard?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Where were they in the wildcard race? I don't have
any idea where they were at that point?
Speaker 4 (25:37):
They were fit?
Speaker 8 (25:38):
Do I see fifth?
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Here?
Speaker 8 (25:39):
They were fifth in the wildcard race?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But how many games back were they? A half game back?
Were they a game back? Where were they when that
team clearly needed some help?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Right?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Looks like they were.
Speaker 8 (25:48):
Looks like they were two and a half games back
in the wild card.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Hey, look they they said they tried to make a
move and they just said the price was too high. Well,
I mean the prices that can no longer be too high.
The problem is now you're starting to a little bit
run out of ammunition in the minor leagues because all
those guys are coming up.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I thought the point that who we have.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
On yesterday, By the way, Larry Stone made the point
about Harry Ford.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
If you bring him up and.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
He struggles, that's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Are you going to blow his stock?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And is it better to keep the machine on the
shine at triple A? Let him stay there, let everybody
think the guy's a star, and get something for him
that can help you now versus rolling the dice and
bringing him up and he struggles.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
So but not a rent a player. No, I don't
want to trade Harry Ford for a rent a player.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Let's get a break
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